1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're joined by 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: our friend Carol Markowitz. He is a columnist and also 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: the host of the Carol Markowitz Podcast, which is on 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast Network, So please subscribe, go 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: check it out. Carol, you you have a gift for 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: being a person on the right who still maintains friendship 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: and connectivity with a lot of what we would call 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: the normies or you know, the everyday folks who aren't 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: particularly interested in politics, especially normy moms, suburban moms. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: How's it looking for Trump right now? 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: I have to say that it's looking better than we 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: hear in the media. Normies are concerned about quality of 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: life above all, and quality of life has really deteriorated 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: in the last four years under the Biden Kamala presidency. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: And so I think what we're seeing in the media 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: is this. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Hysteria against Trump. You know, women are not going to 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: vote for him, but he got forty six percent of 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: the women vote in twenty twenty. 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: That's not nothing. 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: That's pretty high, and it's better than Hillary did with 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: men in twenty sixteen. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: So I think we're looking at it sort of wrong. 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: If Trump can focus on crime, the border, general quality 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: of life issues, kind of limiting the crazies of the left. 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: I think he could really do well with minor may people. 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: I certainly hope so, because the more we hear about 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: Kamala policies, you know, today is kind of like the 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: start of the Kamala campaign as far as actual things 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: that she says she's going to do or concerned. And 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: I know that, and I'm absolutely I wouldn't say I'm 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: guilty of this because I actually think that they are communists. 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: They just don't want to call themselves that. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Like if they could get closer and closer to communism 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: each year, well, they are doing it. But when you 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: have somebody who's response to high prices, home affordability issues, 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: a housing crime is to essentially say I'm going to 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: put in price controls and also accelerate the demand side 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: of things by just throwing government money to people so 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: they can further exacerbate the supplied demand issue, it feels 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: a little COMMI I mean it really it's hard enough 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: to look at this and say, what does she missed 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: about the last hundred years or so? 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 4: Right? 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I fully agree that Kami is not too 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: harsh a term here from the Soviet Union, as you know, 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: as born there. 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 4: Price controls been tried. I feel like we've been through 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: it once or twice before. And that's another thing. 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: I think that the normy groups that Trump is trying 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: to court understand that handing out free cash here constituents 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: A will never benefit them never. 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: And B. 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: I think that they get that it harms everybody, that 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: the more money you send out to people, the higher 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: the prices get in the grocery store. I think these 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: are exactly the kind of people who do make that connection. 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: You know, the Kamala price control thing, it's never going 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: to pass. It's for low information voters who are like, oh, 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: Kamala's going to bring down the price of groceries at 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: the grocery store. Well, Kamala's vice president right now, Why 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: is she? Why isn't she doing that now? If it's 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: such an easy fix, if it's grieve inflation or vibe 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: session or whatever crazy words Democrats come up with to 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: describe really basic economic policy that pushed our prices up 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: because of what they did on their end, why not 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: do it now, Kamala Harris bring bring those prices down today? 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want to know how we're supposed to 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: take the game they play of Kamala was both critical 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to the Biden administration but also not involved in any 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: of the bad stuff that the bids has created. 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: You know, well, which one is it? 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I've the media to me, there's it's it's almost like 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: there's a like a propaganda schizophrenia or something underway. They 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: they aren't even sure what's best for their team. So 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: it's like they're trying everything at the same time. 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, exactly. 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: Kamala is the serious candidate, but she's also miss joy. 79 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: Everything's so joyful. They're trying to rerun of the Obama hope. 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: You know thing, I don't think it really works with 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. Look, I don't I think that Trump campaign 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: should be taking all of this very seriously. They should 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: be afraid of the Kamala Harris campaign. 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: But I think that she's floundering. 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: And I know that the numbers, you know, her numbers 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: are good right now, but I think the crash is coming. 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: I think it's just when that crash is going to come, 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: because she's not that sharp, but she does not get 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: her point across that well. And when asked to kind 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: of speak off the cuff. She doesn't do it very well. 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: So I think the Trump campaign should take her very seriously. 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: I think they should rebuff and rebt all of her statements. 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: But I think that she's not doing as great as 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: the media would love to us to think she is. 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I totally agree with that. 96 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Carol Marca, which should all check out 97 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Karen Markowitz podcast, which is on the Klay and Buck 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: podcast network down on the iHeart app. Look at Clay 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and Buck or Carol Markowitz and then just start listening 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: via the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: And Carol, you also allude there to something else that 102 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: I think is really interesting. It's I should probably do 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: this this weekend and show up on the show next 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: week and just start blasting out these headlines. It was 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: really the consensus among Democrats that Kamala Harris was a 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: drag on Joe Biden and for his re election effort 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: until the debate with Biden where it all fell apart. 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: But there was talk about maybe Gretchen Whitmer stepping in 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: if they could get Kamala to take like attorney general 110 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: in the second term or something basically anything to get 111 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: her off the ticket, and it was Democrats reporting that, 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: and now we're supposed to forget. 113 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: That, right, And I would say that you and I 114 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: were we were wrong that Biden wasn't going to step down, 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: right or. 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, not hold hold on, hold, I want to 117 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: just add I know, but I was going to say. 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: The reason why I think you and I thought so 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: firmly that Biden had to be the candidate is because 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: it could only be Kamala Harris. And that was why 121 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: for me, I was like, well, if they get rid 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: of him, it has to be her. I did not 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: entertain for one second. I heard Michelle Obama, I heard 124 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, I heard you know, uh, Charlie Kirk, I mean, 125 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: not trying to. 126 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: Call him out, but he said it was going to 127 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: be Jill Biden. 128 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there was a range of people, and you 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: and I were like, no, it's going to be Kamala. 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: If it's not Biden, it has to be Kamala. And 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: she was the drag and now she's this conquering hero. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, right, well, this is why, this is why I'm 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: so confident that and remain confident that Trump is actually 134 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: going to win. I mean anything as possible. We have 135 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: to take it seriously. You know, you're you're in a race, 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: right and if it doesn't matter who you're racing against, 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: if you if you're in like NASCAR or Formula one, 138 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: if you run into the wall, it's over right, So 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: it's not it doesn't matter if you're faster or better. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: Like you actually have to execute. And that's kind of 141 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: how I do the Trump thing. If Trump just executes 142 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and stays on task, he will win. And I mean 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: for Trump, I don't mean becoming something else. But on 144 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the Biden thing, that just kind of gets me because 145 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, our good friend yours in mine and my 146 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: esteem colleague, mister Clay, you know, he gets a stake 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: out of it because I said Biden. 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Would be the nominee. 149 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Clay was saying that Biden wouldn't even run, like it 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: was going to be decided beforehand, and also Michelle Obama. 151 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: But technically our bet was on the nominee people, you know, 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: but Biden made it further as the nominee than anybody 153 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: in the history of the Republic who then just decided 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: or actually didn't decide but was pushed out. So you know, 155 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: there were all these people were saying it was going 156 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: to be he wouldn't even run again. 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: To me, Biden ran. 158 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: He just had to apport his campaign, right, I mean, 159 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: the decision was that he was going to run again. 160 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Clay a stake too, So. 161 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: I know Caroline are both a little bitter about this. 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: He didn't get the details in the bed. Clay and 163 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: I did. 164 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Have some like, you know, alternative alternative bets going on 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: if anything went wrong. 166 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 167 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Well he is so lucky, by the way, because he's 168 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: been saying also, and I gave him, I gave him 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: an out clause now because technically it was you know, 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about a bid in Trump race. But 171 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: he said that there's going to be a huge shift 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: in the Jewish vote for Republicans. 173 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: I do not believe that that's true. I forget what. 174 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. 175 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 4: I don't know. 176 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: But I let him out, Well, what's a huge shift, right, 177 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: that's the thing. 178 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I think it was either ten or fifteen points, he said, 179 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: like a fifteen point swing towards Trump. 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at the eight percent should be the over under. 181 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: I think I think Trump picks up an extra eight 182 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: percent of the Jewish vote, which is a huge swing. Listen, 183 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: these things take time, they're slow going. I obviously I'm Jewish, 184 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: I'm conservative. I think it's a crazy thing that Jews 185 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: vote for Democrats. Insanity. I think a lot of my 186 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: fellow Jews have realized it this time. Will they get 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: to the voting booth and pull for Trump? I think 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: a hefty eight percent will you know, increase, But I 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: think a lot of them will stay home. 190 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: And that's so that'll get as close to right because 191 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: it's usually sixty forty I think, and you know, roughly 192 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: in sixty percent Democrat forty percent Republican. 193 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 2: I think is that at lower. 194 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: It's like thirty it's Trump got thirty percent of the 195 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: Jewish vote. 196 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: O thirty okay, see that's even lower than yeah. 197 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: And he got thirty four percent of it in Florida. 198 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: And so also it matters where. 199 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: If he gets If he makes a serious increase in Pennsylvania, 200 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: he could wins Pennsylvania just based on the Jewish vote. 201 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: So it does matter. 202 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Even though where this little blip in the you know, demographics, 203 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: but it will make a difference in some areas. I 204 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: hope Pennsylvania Jews are ready to vote for Donald Trump. 205 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: I hope they do it. 206 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: I hope that they are awake and aware and understand 207 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: what's at stake here. 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I think that the decision not to go with Shapiro 209 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: may have been the single like other than all the 210 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: campus craziness and the anti Semitism and everything and the Democrats. Yeah, 211 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: remember Biden tried to have it both ways, right, Like 212 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Biden wasn't saying yeah, like, you know, I love the 213 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: hamas Nicks. 214 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: Like they're great. 215 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: He was, you know, all, you know, we need to 216 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: worry about Palestinian children in Gaza, but we also need 217 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: to like support Israel. 218 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Right, he tried to do this both ways thing. 219 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: But when you look at the actual decision making, to me, 220 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: it is now. 221 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: I wonder where you are on this. 222 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: To me, it is indefensible political malpractice to have gone 223 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: with this Walls guy over Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania, assuming 224 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Shapiro would have taken the job. 225 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I so agree. 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro should have been a layup for them, a 227 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: popular governor of a state that they. 228 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: Need to win. Easy, easy call. 229 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: But obviously all the articles about Shapiro's baggage that were like, 230 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: is this baggage. 231 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: That he's Jewish, because that's what. 232 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: This feeds like. 233 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: It had an impact, and look, they didn't want to 234 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: piss off the Hamasniks before the DNC. They're already worried 235 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: about riots at the convention, and this would have been 236 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine what would happen. 237 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: Chicago would burn. 238 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: And that's the case that they know it is. So yeah, 239 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: I agree Walls, he's become a drag on the. 240 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: Ticket and there's no really two ways about that. 241 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: Super far left, super crazy policies, says insane things, and 242 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: then we have the stolen valor thing, which you know, 243 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: you talk about the normy vote. They hear this, They 244 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: get that he lied about his service and how do 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: you do that? How do you do that. 246 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: When you're in the kind of position that he was in, 247 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: and that he got. 248 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: Away with it for so long is also registering a 249 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: lot of people are like, wait a minute, he was 250 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 3: a politician for so many years, how come this never 251 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: came out? 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: And the truth is it did come out. 253 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: But not in the media outlets that you know, the 254 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: liberal left media outlets, not in the New York Times, 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: not in the Washington. 256 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: Post, and now they have no choice but to cover it. 257 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 5: Well. 258 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: I think stuff like that will get the normy suburban 259 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: vote over the Trump side, hopefully or staying home, which 260 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: is also a win. 261 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I also have to say, you know, I'm to be 262 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: going to be drunk driving ninety six in a fifty 263 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: five while you're lit up. It's really repless, really reckless, 264 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like ninety six and a 265 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: fifty five is bad, although I have friends who are speeding, 266 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: but it's at least if you were one hundred percent sharp, 267 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: you can make the argument like I can drive fast 268 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: and I'm safe, although actually. 269 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: That's too fast in a fifty five. It's obviously very 270 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: very illegal. 271 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: But to be drunk and going ninety six and a 272 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: fifty five, he's lucky he didn't kill himself and other 273 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: people by going out and doing that, and he's he's 274 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: like the great hero of you know, Midwestern America now 275 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: according to Democrats. 276 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: I just think it's absurd. 277 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, terrible decision making. Really shows something about his character. 278 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how that passed, you know, kind of 279 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: the vetting process, and it sort of makes me think 280 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: that maybe they were going to go with Shapiro when 281 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: it's a last minute switch to get Wells in because. 282 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: He just doesn't seem that great. What does he really 283 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: add to this ticket. 284 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: He's from a state that Democrats are going to win anyway, 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: even Ronald Reagan didn't win Minnesota, so it's you know, 286 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what he really brings to the table here. 287 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: I think it is one of the gifts that that 288 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: they have given to the Trump ticket. So we'll see 289 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: if But you're still you're like me, right, you're confident 290 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: if Trump. You know, if Trump stays on the track 291 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: and finishes the race, you'll I you know, I'm. 292 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: Very superstitious Russian jew. I don't say things like this 293 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: out loud. 294 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: Buck, So we're gonna just go with he should continue 295 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: working hard, he should keep trying. 296 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: But you know, we'll see what happened. 297 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody because obviously they're all going 298 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: to go this week and listen to your fantastic show 299 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: on the clay Buck Network. Did you have any any 300 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: guests on this week or are you just rolling solo? 301 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 302 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: No, I have I have guests on every week. I 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: think you should check it out. I had Yellow Bar Tour, 304 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: I had. 305 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: Sorry if you got his name, but yeah, I've had 306 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: some really great guests. 307 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: Recently, Steve Robinson was on talking about how the Chinese 308 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: mafia has taken over Maine. That's a story that has 309 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 3: kept me up at night. And if you want to 310 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: be losing sleep, you listen to my show. 311 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really good one. 312 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: He's been on that and now it's becoming sort of 313 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: a national story. NBC covered it recently, but he's been 314 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: the guy who has been ringing the alarm on this 315 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: for a long long time. 316 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Steve Robinson. Check him out Mainwire. 317 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, go check it out. Carol Markitz, everybody, Carol, 318 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: thanks so much. 319 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: Thanks Buck. 320 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, we are keeping our focus on Israel this weekend. 321 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Israeli citizens continue to be on hire alert than normal 322 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: for a possible attack from forces backed by Iran, and 323 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: there's good reason to be prepared for whatever comes next. 324 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: And the event of an attack from one hostile force 325 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: or another, Israelis across the country could be forced to 326 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: spend days in bomb shelters if the attacks continue for 327 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: a long period of time. 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Find them on the free 344 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 345 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: And I was just talking to Carol Markowitz about this, 346 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: about how Biden got so close, so close to being 347 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the nominee and making it all the way to the convention. 348 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: It would have been all over you know, I'm not 349 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: bitter about being wrong on this one. 350 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: I just I he was. 351 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: It's like he fumbled it on the one yard line 352 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: before he could have run into the end zone. 353 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he was so close. 354 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: But the debate, the debate was a linebacker that came 355 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: at him with a lot of force. I mean, that 356 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: was not good for him. But I thought this was 357 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Trump is is now essentially telling everybody, 358 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: this is cut fifteen, that look, Biden wasn't as communist 359 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: as this current crew is going to be if they 360 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: come in, meaning Kamala Walls. 361 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: And what they did to Biden was a coup. 362 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: It was really it was really disgraceful what they did 363 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: to the leader of the Democrat Party just because of 364 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: some polls and a bad debate. 365 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: And I'd play fifteen. 366 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 5: Somebody said, you had debate performance was horrible. I said, 367 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: why because you forced him out of government. 368 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: But I believe she'll be just as bad. 369 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: I believe she's maybe in many ways going to be 370 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: worse because he wasn't really a radical left but she is. 371 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: She's real. 372 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: He wasn't real, So I think she's going to be 373 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: in many ways is easier to beat then Joe Biden. 374 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: What they did to him was disgraceful by the way, 375 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 5: and it really is a threat to democracy. 376 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: It was a coup by people that wanted him out. 377 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I totally agree, I think and this this is crazy 378 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of people right now. I think when 379 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: all's said and done, and I'm not overconfident, as I've said, 380 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: think of my I like Formula one, but some of you, 381 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: probably a NASCAR people not Scar's cool too. I just 382 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: there's not a Netflix series on it that I've seen, 383 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: so I don't know as much about it. If Trump 384 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: stays on the track and executes his race, he will win. 385 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: If he runs into a wall like I you know 386 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: what I mean, I can't, that's gonna be bagging. But 387 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: if he runs the race he needs to run, he's 388 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna win. And I think that people will look back 389 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: and realize that Biden, even hobbled, as he was more 390 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: formidable in a general election than Kamala Harris's. Trump just 391 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: said it too, So I don't think I'm crazy. I 392 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: think that we'll revisit this afterwards. If Clay were here, 393 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: he'd be lighting me up over. But I still think 394 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: that what all said and done, Biden was actually a 395 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: tougher opponent for Trump. I'm convinced that Americans are going 396 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: to be seeing more and more reason in the months 397 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: and years ahead to own precious metals, specifically gold and silver. 398 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: You know that gold has increased by thirty percent in 399 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: the past year. You can go check this for yourself. 400 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: It's so easy to check out the price of gold 401 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: last twelve months. You'll see plus countries far and wider 402 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: buying gold. We're thirty five trillion in debt. You think 403 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: this is going to get better anytime soon? Your currency 404 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: is being debased by government policy. And the problem is 405 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: because they get so deep in this hole, what do 406 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: they do? They print more money, so it just gets 407 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: worse and worse over time. How can you prepare for 408 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: this and protect your savings? Gold and silver? My friends, 409 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: Birch Gold has made it so much easier than ever 410 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: to own gold yourself, and you can get it in 411 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: your irray or your four oh one K. Text Buck 412 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: to nine eight nine eight nine eight receive a free 413 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: no obligation infokid on gold. That's Buck. 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Wages won't fall overnight, but they 449 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: will fall even plunge as profits dissipate. Since upper management 450 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: is insulated from most everything that goes wrong, the actual 451 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: producers of production are going to get hosed very badly. 452 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: One does not need to be an economist nor even 453 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: understand economics to see this impact. I mean, Michael, I 454 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: would agree in general with what you're saying. I would 455 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: say that management price controls can destroy management too. Price 456 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: controls can destroy a company, can destroy an industry, can 457 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: destroy a country. 458 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: If you're looking for one thing that. 459 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Just just put Venezuela, you know, pushed it into the 460 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: economic abyss. It was Chavez and Maduro price controls, right, 461 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: because and here's why. I know people say, oh, it's 462 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: you know land, it's you know land redistribution initiatives, and 463 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: and you know heavy regulation of industries. 464 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: Of course, price control is a very heavy regulation. 465 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, if you need price controls, or rather 466 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: if you if at the point where you would choose 467 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: price controls, you would stop as a government, say hold 468 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: on a second. 469 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: What's really going on? 470 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: That is that the data point you need to recognize 471 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: that there's a an issue of supply and demand and 472 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: that if you exacerbate that with price controls, you're just 473 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna make everything worse. Because this, this just exists, right, 474 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Supply and demand is a reality. 475 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: People. 476 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: People need to buy milk, and if there's not enough milk, 477 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: the price goes up, and producers have to also be 478 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: sensitive to the price and if the price for them 479 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: goes up because of right, I mean, this this is reality. 480 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: But what democrats, socialist communists do all the same thing 481 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: is they say, oh, no, with a decree, we will 482 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: come in and we will decide what the price shall be, 483 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: because politically is good to people. But it's always a 484 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: false promise, right, It's a false promise because you're just 485 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: taking from one side of the equation and adding it 486 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: into this. 487 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: And as I said, I know that this. 488 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's farm subsidies, there are things, there's there's 489 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: fossil fuel subsidies. Those are politically expedient, but they are 490 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: economic malpractice. That's just the truth. And you know, and 491 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: nobody people want to win the Midwest. They're not going 492 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: to touch those farm subsidies. People want to If you 493 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: want to win elected office in New York City, for example, 494 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: try to get rent control removed. Try to get rent 495 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: control struck down or taken away. 496 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: You'll loose because you'll have. 497 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Over a million New Yorkers who are paying a fraction 498 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: of the market rate for their apartments. Who will do 499 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: They will write checks, they will they will be uh, 500 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: you know, show up at the polls. They will get 501 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: other people to show up at the polls. It is 502 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: critical to them. So you never get rid of it. 503 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: You can never get rid of it. And then you say, oh, 504 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: but that's a good thing, right, because what about that 505 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: mill What about those million people now at least they 506 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: can afford their homes. Yeah, what about the millions more 507 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: who over decades are subsidizing that in the marketplace of 508 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: New York City by having higher rents themselves. And what 509 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: about the lack of incentive for other uh, you know, 510 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: for for builders to create more housing knowing that they 511 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: may be affected by this, this rent control mandate. Right, 512 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: there's like they're like, oh, look, I don't want to 513 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: do this. I'll tell you something. In New York City, 514 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: for example, they I had a conversation with with a builder, 515 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: uh for a really major tower in New York, a 516 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: residential tower, uh, sort of a friend of a friend, 517 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: and I was asking. I said, so, you guys have 518 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: chosen not to do there's a tax abatement that you 519 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: can get in New York City, and it is so 520 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: valuable that most And again I'm relaying a conversation with 521 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: a builder, so I'm not a builder myself, but I mean, 522 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: this guy is we're talking about hundreds of millions of 523 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: dollars going into this building. 524 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: I think he knows what he's talking about. 525 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: He said, most people are a lot of builders come 526 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: in and they'll take the abatement because the city basically 527 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: says we're going to tax the you know, tax your 528 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: eyeballs out. But if you do this thing where you 529 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: give ten percent of your of your building's you know, occupancy. 530 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: If you give ten percent of what you have to 531 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: offer to low income tenants, you'll get a massive tax break. Right, 532 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: So this is what the city. This is what the 533 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: city does. And this is another This was in DC too. 534 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: It's a similar rule in d C. I mean, you 535 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: can look it up, but they give tax some kind 536 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: of a big tax credit if you do this lower 537 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: if you take low income and I think even Section 538 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: eight housing level low income individuals, but you're putting them 539 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: into a brand new building where people are paying market rate. 540 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: And this builder said to me, we won't do that, 541 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: we won't take the abatement. And he said that's very rare. 542 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I said, well why, I mean, I know. 543 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: Look he's trying to make money. 544 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: I was like why, He's like, you don't understand the 545 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: amount of time and money and frustration that the owners 546 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: of the building, that the owners spend dealing with evictions, 547 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: drug arrests, et cetera. For the ten percent of low 548 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: income residents. Makes it not worth it to get the 549 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: massive tax break if you can afford it, if you 550 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: have the upfront cash to to sort of whether that 551 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: you know, enormous, enormous upfront cost because I think the 552 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: abatement is only for a period of time and then 553 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: it fades out. Anyway, he said, it's just not worth it. 554 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: He'd been involved in other projects. So, but this is 555 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you about this because these are the these 556 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: are the unforeseen consequences of these different interventions, and and 557 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: this is Look, this is what essentially Hyak makes this 558 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: case in the Road to Serfdom, which is heavy, heavy slogging. 559 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: As a read. 560 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you, you know, it's not 561 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: I always tell you about like my favorites like Tom 562 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Tom Clancy and Jack Carr and uh Michael Crichton, you know, 563 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: like I I you know, those are books, Like I'd 564 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: rather read those books than watch TV or a movie 565 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: most of the time. 566 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: Right. 567 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: The Road Deserve Them is not in that category, but 568 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: it is essential. And it's because Hyak one is brilliant 569 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: and two really takes you through how government intervention in 570 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: the market that gets more government intervention. 571 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: It just creates the cycle. 572 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: And what ends up happening is instead of being responsive 573 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: to the realities of what is done in that part 574 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: of the economic cycle, it's what do people think tomorrow 575 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: about this? Ah, We've brought it full circle to Kamala 576 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: Harris and Tim Walls. 577 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: It's not what does this look like? 578 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: What does price controls do six years from now or 579 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: even six months from now, it's what do people think tomorrow? Oh, well, 580 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: if the price of meat, you know, if I'm buying 581 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: steak and it's gonna be down twenty percent in two months, 582 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, a lot of people say, oh, 583 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: that's great, but then don't realize is that one there's gonna. 584 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: Be less meat on the shelves. 585 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna go to the grocery store and you're 586 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, wait, hold on, you guys don't have any 587 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Now you better you better like chicken. 588 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: We're out of steak. 589 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: That'll happen shortages, and also the producers are going to 590 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: have to make up for it with either lower quality 591 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: meat or they're you know, they're they're gonna have to 592 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: The money has to come from somewhere, right. The economic 593 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: reality is the same no matter what. Anyway, Sorry, I 594 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: know that was just one VIP email, but I just 595 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: think that's so important. Oh and to Michael's initial point. 596 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Our VIP. Yes, it hurts. 597 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: The price controls will hurt workers too, because people have 598 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: no idea. 599 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: You know, I deal with this. Now. 600 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: We're we have a Crocket Coffee, for example, and and 601 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: you know we're doing well because you are supporting this 602 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: company which also supports tunnel to towers and and we're 603 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: going to be coming out with all these great products 604 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: to show you. Crocket Coffee dot com. Please check it out. 605 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Your profit margin is very small for a lot of businesses. 606 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: People who haven't run a business don't realize this. And 607 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're getting ten percent of the profits tunnel 608 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: the towers. We're You're we're looking at like a single 609 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: digit profit margin. So so think about this. You could say, oh, 610 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: we've sold a million dollars. Let's say theoretically we've sold 611 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: a million dollars of coffee. Well, if your profit margin 612 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: is five percent, you've sold a million dollars of coffee, 613 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: which is a you know, a nice business. 614 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: You've made fifty grand. 615 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: That's and that's for every that's for everybody working at 616 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: that company, everything else. Right, that's the reality of most businesses, 617 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: not the Googles and the well, the Google is a 618 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: monopolist but you know, not the in videos and these 619 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: super specialized, most profitable companies in the world, but for 620 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: things like groceries, grocery store margins. You know, if I 621 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: should get you know, I'm a big fan of the 622 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: the like the cats of Mititises in New York. You know, 623 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: they own one of the They owned the Cristidis, which 624 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: is a well known grocery chain there. I mean, if 625 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: you ask John John Katz or his son John Junior 626 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: is a friend of mine or his daughter's friend of mine, 627 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, they could explain this in detail. On the 628 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: grocery side of things, You're operating very fine margins, right, 629 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: You're operating at a one digit profit margin. 630 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: So when people are saying things, look, oh look they're 631 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: just squeezing out. 632 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Not about them, but in general about groceries, which was 633 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: kmmalsce focused on. Oh they're they're squeezing out all these 634 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: profits and they're being profiteers. It's not possible. They don't 635 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: have a monopoly. And collusion is already illegal. Price fixing 636 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: is already illegal. You want to really have your mind blown, 637 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: price controls allow for collusion in industries. I'm not saying 638 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: it always happens but it makes it easier for there 639 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: to be collusion because everybody knows, oh, well, this is 640 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: the price we're setting. 641 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: So you know, how do we move numbers around? Right? 642 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: How do we? Oh, that's that's what we do. Now 643 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: we can start to play around the edges more and more. 644 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: If if you want to have a cartel institute price controls, 645 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: because there's no better you know, everyone just wants and 646 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: then they want to do the minimum too. There's no 647 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: more competition. I can only sell this hamburger meat for 648 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: X price. They can only sell it for X price. 649 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: So how do I play around with the margins to 650 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: make sure I don't have to worry about quality. I 651 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: don't have to worry, you know, about happy customers. This 652 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: is the price you see? 653 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: This is Oh, and don't even get me started. 654 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: This is and then because eventually, you know, we all 655 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: get and then everyone really flips out minimum wage? 656 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: What about minimum wage? 657 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Economists will argue over this one. The minimum wage is 658 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: also an intervention and distortion in the markets. 659 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, people don't like to hear it. 660 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true, but it would take time for 661 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: the market wage to be set, and there would be 662 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: winners and losers. In that process, there would be people 663 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: hurt by the minimum wage, getting you either lowered or 664 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: taken down. But see, it's that same principle of well, 665 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: what exactly is getting better? In what is getting worse? 666 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: Who is seeing more money, who is seeing less money? 667 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: It always comes from somewhere, and this is the truth 668 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: of student loans. It always comes. 669 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: From somewhere, and they just want to hide this from you. 670 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: And that's the Kamala Harris move right now, is to 671 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: just try to buy people off with money that's not theirs, 672 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: but it is their money ultimately. 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He has 700 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: missed all of you, though, so he'll be eccited to 701 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: be back in action. I'll tell you know. I've also 702 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: been reading a book that I have to give him 703 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: credit to Jesse Kelly recommendation. You know, he's very tall, 704 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: but he also is very well read. And it's called 705 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: The Last Crusade by Warren Carroll, a very interesting take 706 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: on the Spanish Civil War, and it's one of these 707 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: The Spanish Civil War is one of these conflicts where 708 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: the more you learn about it, the more you realize 709 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: that almost everything that people think about it in the 710 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: in general is distorted or even just flat out wrong. 711 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: And of course Hollywood and the media have a very 712 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: simplistic view of it that there was just these Nazi 713 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: backed fascists who we're trying to defeat this people's government. 714 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: But it was a communist takeover and a virulently anti Catholic, 715 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: anti Christian takeover of the country as well, which The 716 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: Last Crusade gets into. But I'm going to be reading 717 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: more about the Spanish Civil War after this one. I 718 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: say it was a good Wreck by I just finished 719 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: it last night. Good Wreck by Jesse Kelly. Very interesting. 720 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: I think back to the movie Pans Labyrinth and it 721 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: shows to me very clearly that there's like the fascist 722 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: the evil fascist Nazi Spaniards are so bad in that 723 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: movie and very violent and vicious and horrible, and they 724 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: did do horrible things. I'm aware of bad things happening. 725 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: It's a war, bad things, the Civil War, bad things 726 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: happening on both sides. 727 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 8: But what they don't show you is that there there 728 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 8: was just NKVD, which is the precursor of the KGB, 729 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 8: Communist infiltration, Communist Brigades, International Brigades, Communists Stalin sending resources 730 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 8: in material. 731 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much that is left out 732 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: of that compic I thought was really interesting. Douglas writes 733 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: in one of our VIPs Buck, in response to your 734 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about unions yesterday. I am a Houston air traffic controller. 735 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Our union is the National Air Traffic Controllers Association. I 736 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: thought you would be interested to know that out of 737 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: roughly fifteen thousand controllers, nine thousand did not recently vote 738 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: in the National Union presidential election. They pay insane amounts 739 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: and dues but won't vote. I believe it's because they 740 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: aren't happy with the choices and feel neither choice gives 741 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: them a voice, but also feel morally obligated to keep paying. 742 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Like you said, union bosses are more for the union 743 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: establishment than for the everyday worker. Absolutely true, Douglas, thank 744 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: you for bringing that frontline perspective to this. And air 745 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: traffic controllers one of those areas where I want people 746 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: who are really really good at their job, really good 747 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: at their job. That's how people feel about pilots too, right. 748 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: And I know planes are more and more automated now 749 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: and people say, oh, it's fly by wire, and it's yeah, 750 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: it's fly by wire until it's not until something goes wrong, 751 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: until someone has to make a heat of the moment 752 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: Sully over the Hudson kind of decision. You want a 753 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: really good pilot. You want somebody who is very well 754 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: trained and really know what's going on. You want you 755 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: want a really good surgeon, right this, These are these 756 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: are principles that we all should be able to share 757 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: and celebrate in that we just with with critical roles 758 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: and positions. We just want the best of the best. 759 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: I do not care what skin color, I do not 760 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: care what gender. You know, if you show me somebody 761 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: who is a you know, non binary and has a 762 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: purple mohawk, but is truly the best heart surgeon based 763 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: on thousands of surgeries, and you know, going to Harvard 764 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: Medical School and you know, everything else, and yeah, I'll 765 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: that's great, have that person do my heart surgery. 766 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: But as we know, that's not what's happening. 767 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: What's happening is you have people that aren't good but 768 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: have characteristics at the left likes, and they're advancing them 769 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: far beyond what they would get, you know, otherwise. 770 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: So I think that that's important. 771 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: All right, team, talk to you Monday. Clay my Man 772 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: will be back with me. Shield tip