1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. James, you've been on the program before. We've 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: talked about your situation. But to a few of the 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: many who haven't heard your story, new listeners, tell us 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened to you. You made 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: that million, you lost it, what happened well. By the 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: age of thirty, everything was going great right out. I 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: got off the road as a professional trumpet player, and 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I went right into the financial world. I got licensed 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: as a stockbroker, was able to get a position with 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: a small firm, which then I ended up with a 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Wall Street firm. After that, then I ended up with 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: a regional firm. I became a vice president very quickly. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: By the age of twenty three, I was a vice president, 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: traveling around the world Europe, you know, making all the 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: big bucks. By I think it was twenty eight years old, 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I had started my own nationwide investment firm and a 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: national radio show, national Team TV show. And at the 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I was thirty years old and my phone rang, and 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: this was in two thousand and one, and it was 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: my accountant, my my external accountant, who explained to me 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: that I was broke that I was bankrupt and that 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: all my money was gone. And it took a few 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: weeks to figure out what exactly happened. But it turned 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: out that my own brother, who was six years younger 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: than me, he was working for me as my internal bookkeeper, 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and he wiped me out, completely, completely wiped me out. 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I thought, well, this has got to 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: be a misunderstanding. I'm going to set up a meeting 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: with him. Maybe there's you know, money in a different account, 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: because we had a lot of different accounts and different locations. 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: And his last words to me on this where I 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: will not speak to you, you must speak to my 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: attorney with the email, and that began a nightmare. I 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: really literally felt like I was a character in a 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: movie v I couldn't believe it. I went from you know, 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: limousine's picking me up at the airport to take me 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: onto TV shows that I was appearing on, had written 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: all these books and it was all gone. It was 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: all gone in a matter of days. I was completely 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: completely done. I mean literally to the point that my 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: last employee I had to pay him with our phone system. 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: I had no money left, credit card, cash advances, everything 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I said. I said to him, I said, Bob, can 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: I can I give you the phone system for your 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: final paycheck? And he said yes, and I gave him 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the phone system. It got so dark, George that on 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: three occasions. And I know I've told this story many 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: times and some people. Of all the things I share, 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: this is the one thing that really seems to hit 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: people really hard. I tell them that I planned my 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: own suicide out three times in detail. I planned to 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: kill myself. I was a father of three young children, 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I was married, but I had this idea in my mind, 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: this lie had crept into my mind that if I 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: killed myself, that was going to be the solution. And 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: it got very dark, and I ultimately did not kill myself, 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: which I talked about in my book, and my life 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: really started to turn around. It took a few years 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: because I'm a little bit of a slow learner, but 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I discovered a new way of praying. And I've been 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a spiritual person my whole life since, you know, a 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: very young age. But I never really looked at prayer 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the way that I discovered it to be. I always 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: thought that prayer was, you know, a little thing you say, 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, thirty seconds or a minute to God, and 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: then you sort of gone with your day. And I 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: got to this point where I ended up at a 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: beach with a yellow pad and I just looked up 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: at the sky and I said, to God, here I am. 71 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, I've got nothing left planning to kill myself. 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: You know what should I do? And in that moment, 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: in about a two hour period, George and I get 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: emotional when I share this, why not. Yeah, this yellow 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: pad began to fill up with information and ideas and 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: things that I should do. And it literally changed my 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: life because I realized that God still speaks to us 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: today and this was information and ideas and directions that 79 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I would have never come up with on my own. 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: And we just don't slow down enough and take time 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: to listen to God. And I know there's people listening 82 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: right now because I'm reading the stories of the suicides 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: are spiking, the marriage, the marriage issues are spiking, domestic abuse, 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: child abuse, people are going through. People are going nuts, James, 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: They're going nuts. They don't know, they don't know what 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: to do. And we're really living. I mean, we like 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: to read about the Great Depression, you know, in the 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: history books, but we're in it. We're in it now. 89 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: We're living that history right now. And I know that 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: people need hope and need directions. And I just say this, 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: anybody right now that it's thinking about suicide, you're you're 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: thinking about that as a solution. It is not a solution. 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: It is something that will creep into your mind. It 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: is a lie. And I will tell you that over 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, I have had so many wonderful 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: experiences watching my daughter get married, the twenty years I've 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: spent with my wife, we went back to take you 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: would have missed all of it. You would have missed 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: it all, missed so many wonderful things. So, folks, if 100 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: you're listening and that's creeping into your mind, that is 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: a lie from the enemy. Do not believe that there 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: are so many things you can do right now. George 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and I've been on Facebook and YouTube and Twitter and 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: my website and my radio show giving people all this 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: information because as bad as things look, there are new 106 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: opportunities opening up and people are getting into these new 107 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: things and are really doing well. And so it's just 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: like they say, one door closes, another door opens up, 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: and there's so many things you can do right now, 110 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: and we've got a video up on how to quickly 111 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: get your stimulus money, because there's a new way to 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: do it where you can get it more quickly. So 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: we're working on this twenty four seven to try to 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: help people to get the stimulus money, to get unemployment money, 115 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: and then to come up with a new direction if 116 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: they need to do that, because maybe what they're doing 117 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: is phasing out. I remember the first time we chatted, James, 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: you kind of reminded me of Neil Donald Walsh and 119 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: his book Conversations with God, where he was also despondent 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: and you know, asked God, you know, please help me. 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: And I had asked him at the time, who wrote 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: your book? You or God? And so when you had 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: that yellow notepad out there on the beach, was that 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: God who was writing through you? Or how was that happening? Yeah, 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you what it is. I get 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: chills when I talk about it because when you get 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: to that, when you are in that moment and you 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: feel what the presence of God feels like, it's a 129 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: wonderful thing, but it's also a scary thing because you realize, 130 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is real, because I think part 131 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: of our brain says, maybe God really isn't out there, 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: maybe this is just me coming up with this information. 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: But when I sat back down and looked at it later, 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I knew that it wasn't me because I was in 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: no position to come up with any ideas for anything. 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: I was such a wreck, and not to mention that 137 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: the information that I was given, And that was one 138 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: of many prayer sessions. And I'll be honest, you know, 139 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: today I don't pray as much, and I should pray more, 140 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: and people should pray more and take more quiet time. 141 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: And now it's sort of a time out right for 142 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: all of us, a pause button for all of us. 143 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: So now there's no excuse not to pray more and 144 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to have more quiet time. And God will speak to 145 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: you if you ask him. You see. People think the 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: book How to Pray for a Financial Miracle is about 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: praying for a bag of money to show up, and 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I know that God does work like that, But the 149 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: book is really about asking God to be your counselor 150 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: your financial advisor and to tell you what you need 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: to do based on your situation. And I really believe 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: that He speaks to all of us today. If we 153 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: just would take time to listen. And there's so many 154 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: things people can do right now, not only you know, 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: getting the stimulus and the unemployment and all these things, 156 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: but everybody's making arrangements for people. Mortgage companies are letting 157 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: people skip mortgage payments, car payments are being skipped, student 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: loans are put on hold for six months. There's so 159 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: many things you can do. So if you're listening tonight 160 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: and you're thinking this is the end, it's not, stick 161 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: with your situation, work through it. It'll be some tough work, 162 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: but you'll come out the other side a better, stronger 163 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: person than maybe even more financially successful than you were 164 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: even before this. James, they're talking about another stimulus package 165 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: which will give people two thousand dollars a month. Still 166 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: not enough money to really live on. I have an 167 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: assumption most people were living on much more. But at 168 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: least it's something. But this has got to end. It's 169 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: got to end soon. So in addition to praying for 170 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: a financial miracle, how about praying for getting the country 171 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: back in order again? Yeah? Absolutely. And there's a lot 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: of like really strange things going on that honestly, I 173 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: don't understand. You know, I live in a small community 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and we really haven't been hit by this at all, 175 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: but yet they've taken such draconian measures. I'm not kidding you, George. 176 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: We have a helicopter, a life rescue helicopter that is 177 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: patrolling at low altitude our city to make sure that 178 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: no one is on the beach or in the parks. 179 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: And I just think to myself, where am I living. 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we've got to take measures for 181 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: social distancing and these kinds of things, but some of 182 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the government decisions that have been made, especially by local governments, 183 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: it's just hard to hard to process. We have a 184 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: beach situation here where even during the season, you could 185 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: go out on the beach and walk and maybe not 186 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: see another person. I mean, this is this is not Miami, 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: where where I live. But yet they've closed all the 188 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: green spaces, all the boat ramps, all the beaches, and 189 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: all the schools are closed. We've got to get back 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: to normal, and it's got to be soon, because I'm 191 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: reading things that the economic effects of this could last 192 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: for ten, maybe fifteen years, how long the economic impact 193 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: could be. But again, to be positive, there's so many 194 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: things people to do. My son. He works for a 195 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: company that puts law firms into the cloud. They move 196 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: everything into the cloud, and he's doing great. And there's 197 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: so many people getting into different businesses. Is like this, 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: this whole thing of putting restaurants online so you could 199 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: do online ordering. That's huge. So many people are starting 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: online businesses right now. People are getting involved with different 201 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: technologies as Zoom company that's doing the online video conferences everyone. 202 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: You can get yoga on Zoom and your exercise classes 203 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: are on Zoom. Well that Zoom stock from February till 204 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: now has doubled, So there's so many things. There's always 205 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: the silver lining there. There always is, and sometimes it 206 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: takes prayer and time, a quiet time thinking through to 207 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: find that silver lining. But with every crisis, there's an 208 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: opportunity that opens up. When you contemplated suicide three times 209 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: over what period of time was that, it was probably 210 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: over a period of a year. It was early on. 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: It was before I had any solutions. I got to 212 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: that point where I literally, this is what I'm going 213 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to do, and I was I remember one night in particular, 214 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: my wife came in my office. It was probably around 215 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: this time, three o'clock in the morning from the East Coast, 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: and I'm thumbing through insurance documents, reading to make sure 217 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: that I had the policy long enough that it would 218 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: pay off when I killed myself. You didn't want to 219 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: make a mistake about that. Yeah, So here I am. 220 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm a financial guy going through my insurance documents to 221 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: make sure that my plan, which was to kill myself, 222 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: was going to pay off for my family. But you know, 223 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: I've become such a student of learning about suicide and 224 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: why people commit suicide because I was at that threshold 225 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: and you know, suicide it you're gone, but everyone else 226 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: around you is devastated. I mean, what you're really doing forever? Yeah, 227 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a mass bombing of all of 228 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: your loved ones and then they've got a deal with 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: the aftermath of that. So if you're thinking tonight, like 230 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: that's an act of love for you to kill yourself 231 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: and leave all your family with that tragedy, which they 232 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: will never that day, they will never forget that. Every 233 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: morning they'll wake up and think of that, probably the 234 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: first thing they think of when they wake up in 235 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: the morning. Man, I'll tell you what, it is not 236 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: a choice. It is not something you should even have 237 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: on you radar screen. As a choice of these three 238 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: attempts or times that you thought about it and contemplated it, 239 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: which one was the worst moment for you. I'm sure 240 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: they were all bad, but which one was the worst 241 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: of the three? Well? I remember there was a point 242 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: where it took a few months to start rebuilding my 243 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: banking records because what my brother had done as part 244 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: of the embezzlement is his last day on our property. 245 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: He actually took all of our bank records and we 246 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: don't know to this day what happened to them. So 247 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: it took me a few months to begin to begin 248 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: the process of reordering bank statements. And back at that time, 249 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: you had to wait weeks, and you didn't you didn't 250 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: have online statements in those days. No, no, no, So 251 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: I had to rebuild our bank account. I remember one 252 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: night I was going through the bank statements and was 253 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: just really starting to comprehend how much money was being 254 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: stolen and how frequently was being stolen. And my brother, 255 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: his family and my family. He had young children also 256 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: at the time, and so we spend every holiday, every Christmas, 257 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: every Easter, every kid's birthday, every fourth of July together, 258 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: And there was a moment George late at night where 259 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm going through these bank statements where it just hit me, 260 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: like really at a super deep level of what had 261 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: happened to me, the betrayal, and I said, I can't live. 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I cannot live knowing that this was going on for 263 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: five years and it was my own brother, and we 264 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: were together during all these family times and this was 265 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: going on. I literally thought I was losing my mind 266 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: that this could happen to me and that I wouldn't 267 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: know that it was going on for five years, and 268 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: there was two sets to the books and all the reasons, 269 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: and I just reached the point where I said, you 270 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to live. I don't want 271 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: to live anymore in a world where it can get 272 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: so dark and your own brother can do something like 273 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: this to you. I think that was my lowest moment, 274 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: was just that that moment of realizing this really happened 275 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: to me and this was my brother. Did you plan 276 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: out how you were going to do this? I did. 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: And people have asked me and I by the way, 278 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: I hope I'm not bringing up anything that is gives 279 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: you horrible memories or anything like that. No, no, But 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I want to mention the memories in a second or 281 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: two because something happened to me recently. But I did 282 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: plan it out in detail, but I don't actually share 283 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: with people what I was going to do. I don't 284 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: want to encourage anybody to do that. But let me 285 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: tell you something that I did recently, and people might 286 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: think I'm crazy. I decided about a month and a 287 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: half ago to put How to Pray for a Financial 288 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: Miracle onto audio for Audible dot com. Yeah, and I 289 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: George that I hadn't read the book in years, and 290 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: so I had to go into the studio and read 291 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: the book. You read your own book, that's right. And 292 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: I actually had like a panic attack. I felt like 293 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I was having a heart attack. Oh my god, in 294 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: reading the book myself, and I thought to myself, you know, 295 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: after I finally finished it, it was the hardest thing 296 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm not kidding you to read that book, 297 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: my own book, my own words, because so much of 298 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: it my brain had like put into a fog or 299 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I had forgotten. But then when I had to go 300 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: back and we live that by reading that onto audio 301 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: for audible, um, it kind of came back to me 302 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: and I I never I guess I live because I 303 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: don't remember all the details of it, and I had 304 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: to go back and look at that, and that was 305 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: quite an experience. I'll tell you something I never would 306 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: have guessed would have happened to me. Do you know 307 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: how many great shows I would not have had, James, 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: had you done yourself in well, thank you for saying that. 309 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I think it's divine. It's a divine appointment that I 310 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: was meant to meet you. And I hear from so 311 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: many people who said they were thinking of suicide. They 312 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't do it. They're praying now and prayer has changed 313 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: their life. And they say, George Nori and Jim Paris 314 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: and I know we did that event in Miami, and 315 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: oh so many people in Miami. You know, maybe this 316 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: is the reason I'm I'm still here because I could 317 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: be on your show. Listen to more Coast to Coast 318 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to 319 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more