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Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back. E y l Atlanta Edition Goroom.
Speaker 2: Only classics over here.
Speaker 3: So this is this is this is gonna be. This
Speaker 3: is gonna be a classic episode. Man shots first and
Speaker 3: foremost shot to my man Chad from eighty five South
Speaker 3: shown he he's a real dude. He reached out to
Speaker 3: us early on on our journey and just like the
Speaker 3: content that he was pointing out, and we connected and
Speaker 3: built a solid relationship, and our interview today comes courtesy
Speaker 3: of that. So first and foremost, we gotta acknowledge him. So,
Speaker 3: Chico Bean, yes, one is.
Speaker 2: Not messing up the aesthetics with my with my cell phone.
Speaker 2: You're good, you know, I know you gotta you gotta,
Speaker 2: you gotta get that in mind. I don't want your
Speaker 2: fan base to be like, fuck you think you fucking
Speaker 2: up the aesthetics at the table. It's gonna be a classic.
Speaker 2: Just wanted to make sure I'm following protocol. That's no,
Speaker 2: You're good man.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Chico Bean a legend in his own right,
Speaker 3: one of the funniest people on earth. You might have
Speaker 3: seen wilding out, you might have seen him on eighty
Speaker 3: five South Show on tour, you might have seen them
Speaker 3: on the podcast eighty five South Show, The Cold this
Speaker 3: podcast all over many they tend the game down right now.
Speaker 3: And you know he's He's one third of the Magnificent Trio.
Speaker 2: Just talented brothers.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but this is gonna be a interesting convo.
Speaker 3: You know, we never had a comedian on really yeah yeah, yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: we never had any well, we had an actor on before,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say we never had anybody from the
Speaker 3: entertainment space, but very few people. We got a lot
Speaker 3: of musicians, rappers, stuff like that, but not really.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's more in tune with the
Speaker 2: people who subscribe to what you guys do? Do you
Speaker 2: think that that's more Nah?
Speaker 4: I think it has to do with people seeing it
Speaker 4: as just entertainment and if you getting the business part
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 2: So when we.
Speaker 4: Came to sit down with y'all, was like, yo, it's
Speaker 4: important that these dudes a businessmen, like they smart as hell.
Speaker 2: People need to see that.
Speaker 5: So and I don't think it.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's even thought about too much as
Speaker 3: far as like people like because obviously we all know comedians,
Speaker 3: we all know entertainers. But I don't think people even
Speaker 3: look look at it from that standpoint like we want
Speaker 3: to know the back story at this person, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And that's the same thing I
Speaker 3: feel with like artists and even athletes a lot of
Speaker 3: times they don't necessarily know, like it's a lot that
Speaker 3: went into Lebron becoming Lebron. Almost definitely, they just want
Speaker 3: to tune into Game seven.
Speaker 2: It's just like entertaining.
Speaker 4: But like, yo, no, you're a person, you got a
Speaker 4: hell of a story and you grinded your asshole.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, most definitely, most definitely, most definitely, first and foremost,
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us, apciate man.
Speaker 2: Thank you all for having me. Man, this is a pleasure. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, we met in New York. What was it
Speaker 2: last year?
Speaker 5: Last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we met in New York at Angela Yee's live podcast,
Speaker 2: Salut Angela Yee. Now, we had a conversation and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, we didn't know, you know, we
Speaker 2: weren't in tune what you guys were doing at that point.
Speaker 2: But after we had the conversation, we tuned in and
Speaker 2: was and was really impressed with what we saw, what
Speaker 2: you guys were putting out, because it was something that
Speaker 2: we never seen before, especially with dudes that look like us.
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate that, I mean a little bit more,
Speaker 2: you know, clean cut to the outfit. This is the
Speaker 2: nigga off the post for whatever problem that you've ever
Speaker 2: seen a black man model and like an outlet, mall
Speaker 2: like that nigga there and then him he's slick a
Speaker 2: defensive end, but he tried a trick y'all. You know,
Speaker 2: we know the back I ain't gonna give it all
Speaker 2: the way up. These dudes are very verse, stick with
Speaker 2: what they do, you know what I mean? Man?
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, but I'm interested in them the backstory
Speaker 3: because I feel like there's really no like set school
Speaker 3: to become a top comedian, Like you gotta kind of
Speaker 3: figure your way out. Some people took the Saturn Night Live.
Speaker 3: Some people, you know, go on the corner and tell jokes.
Speaker 3: Some people like how is your route coming from DC?
Speaker 3: Growing up in DC? Like how did you? Because I
Speaker 3: look at like every neighborhood got somebody that is a comedian.
Speaker 3: I could tell jokes like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: but it's like, how do you turn that into an
Speaker 3: actual professional feature family?
Speaker 5: So like, how was you able to do that?
Speaker 2: Well? Not to go all the way back, but like
Speaker 2: I said, I was born and raised in Washington, DC
Speaker 2: and my background was really different. You know. My father
Speaker 2: was murdered when I was two years old and most
Speaker 2: of the male influences in my family were you know,
Speaker 2: in the street. So that was a lot of the
Speaker 2: influence that I got growing up, and I thought that
Speaker 2: that was what my aspirations should be, to be like
Speaker 2: the dudes that I looked up to, And for a
Speaker 2: while that was my goal. And I've been blessed to
Speaker 2: always be good at whatever it is I decided to do.
Speaker 2: And in two thousand and two, my uncle, who was,
Speaker 2: like I would say, the person who assumed the father role,
Speaker 2: the most consistent male that I had ever had, had
Speaker 2: got murdered in two thousand and two. So that changed
Speaker 2: my perspective a little bit because it scared me real
Speaker 2: bad because he was one of those guys that you
Speaker 2: see get all the respect and all the love, and
Speaker 2: you know, he was like a superhero to me. So
Speaker 2: when that happened, it changed my perspective on my you
Speaker 2: know route, because I knew that this dude was a
Speaker 2: thousand times tougher than I ever could be. Everything that
Speaker 2: I know about being stand up and being a man
Speaker 2: I really got from him, especially in the space that
Speaker 2: I was, you know, aspiring to be a part of.
Speaker 2: After he died, I realized that, you know, I dis
Speaker 2: ain't the way, so I took some money that I had,
Speaker 2: and I've always I started working when I was nine
Speaker 2: years old. You know, I've been getting my own money
Speaker 2: for a long time. I don't come from a household
Speaker 2: where nepotism was prevalent in any way, so I've always
Speaker 2: been able to generate my own income, even if it
Speaker 2: was just you know, I started out working at the
Speaker 2: barbershop brushing people off for dollars as a brush board,
Speaker 2: and then I got a job and hold foods as
Speaker 2: a bagger. And then you know, even when I jumped
Speaker 2: out and started doing the shit that we kind of
Speaker 2: all get caught up and when we come from certain environments,
Speaker 2: I still always kept a job because I was taught
Speaker 2: that you should never have more money than you can
Speaker 2: account for if the government come knocking over the door. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I worked at DTL and I've just always
Speaker 2: been efficient and making my own money. But at that point,
Speaker 2: I knew that I had to take a route that
Speaker 2: was less traveled for where I come from. So I
Speaker 2: took some money and paid for me and my partner
Speaker 2: to go on a college tour for all of HBCUs
Speaker 2: from DC all the way down to Florida, and honestly
Speaker 2: we went to where I ended up going to Winston
Speaker 2: Salem State. And the reason I picked the college I
Speaker 2: went to is because I seen twenty girls before and
Speaker 2: I said, this ain't that bad. I didn't know anything
Speaker 2: about college life up until that point because in DC
Speaker 2: public schools, they don't you know, they didn't really teach
Speaker 2: us about college. They really were just trying to get
Speaker 2: us out of school safely, you know what I mean. Really,
Speaker 2: we had a very high drop our rate, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. The violence was real bad, and you
Speaker 2: know that wasn't you know, I got as counselors weren't
Speaker 2: guiding you towards that they were pretty much gotten you
Speaker 2: through real life issues. So once I went to Winsalem
Speaker 2: State and then I applied to more House, it was
Speaker 2: the only two schools that I applied to. Prior to that,
Speaker 2: I was just doing enough to make sure that my
Speaker 2: mama was satisfied with my schooling. But I knew that
Speaker 2: I was always, you know, proficient in whatever I did,
Speaker 2: so that when my uncle got killed, I started to
Speaker 2: buckle down to get right with the academics. So I
Speaker 2: went to more House, was supplied there, didn't get in.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I got in, but I found out
Speaker 2: it was a dude school, and I was like, that's
Speaker 2: work on where I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, you applied
Speaker 3: for more House and didn't realize it was all.
Speaker 2: No because we didn't I didn't know, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They were on fall break when we went.
Speaker 2: That was was a fall year, fall break when we
Speaker 2: went down there, so the school was closed. So but
Speaker 2: I just heard so much prestigious stuff about the school
Speaker 2: that I felt like, well, this is somewhere that I
Speaker 2: should apply to. And I got in. I did, and
Speaker 2: then you know, when I found out it was an
Speaker 2: all male school, I was like, Winston, sell them state
Speaker 2: it is, you know what I'm saying. So I went
Speaker 2: to Winston. You know, I majored in communications radio Television.
Speaker 2: I graduated and I went to get a job where
Speaker 2: I did an internship at at a news station in
Speaker 2: Winston Salem, North Carolina. And they told me I was
Speaker 2: gonna be making six dollars and fifty cent an hour
Speaker 2: part time. I was like, no, I'm not, just because
Speaker 2: of my like I said, my background, I've always been
Speaker 2: able to to, you know, get my own in. So
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if I'm gonna be I knew
Speaker 2: this was the start of my life. The way the
Speaker 2: world projects life and what a man is supposed to do,
Speaker 2: I knew this was the start of it. So I said, well,
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna be pawing, struggling, and then everybody telling
Speaker 2: me you don't really have a choice but to be
Speaker 2: paorn struggling at the beginning, then I'd rather be poor
Speaker 2: and struggling building my own legacy than helping somebody else
Speaker 2: that then took that elite Bill did and continue to
Speaker 2: Bill did. So I decided to you know, figure it
Speaker 2: out and that what that was gonna be. I had
Speaker 2: no idea, and my homeboy Jerome saluted my boy Jerome.
Speaker 2: He was like, bro, you should do comedy. You should
Speaker 2: do comedy, and mind you, I had never been to
Speaker 2: a comedy show at this point. I've always, you know,
Speaker 2: spoke in front of people. I've never had a stage fright.
Speaker 2: I've been speaking in front of people my whole life.
Speaker 2: I used to host all of the stuff for my
Speaker 2: fraternity when I was in school, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: an outpha. Yeah. So I hosted all of this stuff
Speaker 2: for school, and you know, I was a person that
Speaker 2: didn't mind getting on stage and was good at it.
Speaker 2: So my boy Jerome was like, man, it's a comedy
Speaker 2: club in Greensboro, which is about thirty minutes away. We
Speaker 2: should go and check it out. They got an open mic.
Speaker 2: It was the first and second Thursday of every month.
Speaker 2: So that first Thursday we went and watched the show
Speaker 2: and I watched this people bomb over and over again,
Speaker 2: and I said, well, shit, I can at least give
Speaker 2: it a try, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 2: ended up going home that weekend and had a series
Speaker 2: of events that kind of made me realize that I
Speaker 2: really need to do something that's of value because that
Speaker 2: was my first time in one of my father's gravesite
Speaker 2: and he didn't have a headstone, and that was a
Speaker 2: big part of what made me realize, like, yo, I
Speaker 2: can't go out like this. This dude is my father,
Speaker 2: but they don't even have a headstone. And luckily for me,
Speaker 2: my background has made it to where I could deal
Speaker 2: with the reality of things that that's the way it
Speaker 2: was always given to me. So when the lady showed
Speaker 2: me the grass. My first thought was like, damn, I
Speaker 2: hope I put these flowers on the right nigga, because
Speaker 2: this is gonna be confusion. And that's truly my thought process.
Speaker 2: But when I went home and showed my mom a
Speaker 2: paper that they gave me at the graveyard, she immediately
Speaker 2: broke down and cried and because they had is information wrong.
Speaker 2: And that let me know that even though he didn't
Speaker 2: do enough in his life to get a headstone, and
Speaker 2: nobody around him that did enough to get him one,
Speaker 2: he still had enough impact in love that after all
Speaker 2: of these years, it could still make this woman feel
Speaker 2: this way. So that means I got a special type
Speaker 2: of energy. Even though I've never been given the explanation
Speaker 2: of how to manage it, I had to figure out
Speaker 2: on my own. At that moment, I kin kind of
Speaker 2: confirmed that that's what it was for me. So I
Speaker 2: went back down to North Carolina and I went the
Speaker 2: next week to the open mic, got on stage there
Speaker 2: four minutes. And it may sound crazy, but when I
Speaker 2: got off stage, I swear it was like, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be doing, and I've been doing it
Speaker 2: ever since that day.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. So like, at what point was it like comedy? Like,
Speaker 4: were you the dude in the school that everybody told
Speaker 4: Joe's Like.
Speaker 2: Nah, I mean that was you know, you come from
Speaker 2: certain environments where everybody got jokes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm from DC, Man and where I come from. Everybody
Speaker 2: you had to be able to jone, to be able
Speaker 2: to just be outside. So I wouldn't say that I
Speaker 2: was the biggest class. I was always well known, but
Speaker 2: I don't think I was well known for being funny.
Speaker 2: I was just well known for the shit that I
Speaker 2: was into, and I was just good at you know.
Speaker 2: I was always a dude that had all the new everything,
Speaker 2: and you know, everybody knew me for going to get
Speaker 2: some money. That was pretty much what I was always
Speaker 2: known for, being gonna hustle.
Speaker 3: So once you once you decided you wanted to take
Speaker 3: it serious, like I guess the next steps is just
Speaker 3: comedy clubs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, actually no, not really. At that point, I
Speaker 2: made a decision, another vital decision as to okay, what
Speaker 2: am I gonna do. Am I gonna stay here in
Speaker 2: North Carolina where I don't know anybody and I'm forced
Speaker 2: to make it work? Or am I gonna go home
Speaker 2: to DC where I have a support system, and it
Speaker 2: might be a little easier now. At that point, I
Speaker 2: had to realize that it was better for me to
Speaker 2: stay down there because I didn't want to have to
Speaker 2: deal with the repercussions of the failures that come with
Speaker 2: entrepreneurship and chasing your own dream like it's one thing
Speaker 2: if a stranger say you ain't shit, but if your
Speaker 2: mama's looking at you like, baby, you ain't ate again today,
Speaker 2: like it may, it affects you a little different. And
Speaker 2: I knew my You know, I'm very big on not
Speaker 2: caring about what people think about me because I care
Speaker 2: so much about the people who matter what they think
Speaker 2: of me. So I didn't want to have to deal
Speaker 2: with that influence because I knew at that point I
Speaker 2: didn't have enough understanding of what the game was to
Speaker 2: be able to get through that. I would have probably
Speaker 2: quit nine times out of ten, just because that influence
Speaker 2: would have made me feel like because I know how
Speaker 2: to hustle, so it would have made me feel like, man,
Speaker 2: what am I doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I'm broken?
Speaker 5: Get it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Just get a job or get out here and start
Speaker 2: doing something different. So I stayed in North Carolina where
Speaker 2: there was no other option. This is what I gotta do.
Speaker 2: And I figured, this is not a hot bed of entertainment,
Speaker 2: like not too many people are coming to North Carolina
Speaker 2: looking for new talent. So I figured if I could
Speaker 2: make a name for myself there and make and build
Speaker 2: a following there wherever I go, I would have had
Speaker 2: that leverage, like I want to work with you, but
Speaker 2: I've already shown you what my work is when I
Speaker 2: show up. So that was my plan. So I stayed
Speaker 2: down and started to just do open mics, and then
Speaker 2: I got into a group. It was called NC Comics.
Speaker 2: It was a bunch of comedians who just were trying
Speaker 2: to They were funny and were trying to figure out
Speaker 2: a way. So it's unlike Atlanta. A lot of the
Speaker 2: guys that are starting Atlanta, LA and New York, which
Speaker 2: are the you know, some of the mechas of comedy,
Speaker 2: they already have their infrastructure built. In North Carolina, we
Speaker 2: were kind of responsible for building the infrastructure that exists
Speaker 2: there now in regards to comedy and people understanding that
Speaker 2: there's talent dead. So doing open mics, doing open mics,
Speaker 2: and you know, just going to do whatever I can do.
Speaker 2: And we ended up starting a group called the Freestyle
Speaker 2: Funny Comedy Show, which I have on my Chaine, myself,
Speaker 2: Durren Brand during Big Baby Brand who's also cast Memmon
Speaker 2: wilding Out was a cast Memon wild'n Out, beat Out
Speaker 2: who was a casman Moon wild'n Out, my boy Burpie
Speaker 2: who works radio at Charlotte Now, and my boy Drink
Speaker 2: who also works radio, and beat Out works one or
Speaker 2: two jams too. So we got together in two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine, at end of two thousand and nine, going
Speaker 2: in twenty ten and started this you know, Freestyle Funny
Speaker 2: Comedy troupe. And then and we got to hustling as
Speaker 2: a unit, you know, going to different conventions, getting booked
Speaker 2: for colleges and doing our own show every third Sunday
Speaker 2: of the month, and just hustling, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: building a repertoire of understanding the game. Even though it
Speaker 2: wasn't somewhere where it was necessarily respected, we still were
Speaker 2: getting our rounds in.
Speaker 4: You even from that business standpoint, What was the influence
Speaker 4: right like, because I mean after a certain point, how
Speaker 4: many comedy tools did you see? I remember seeing like
Speaker 4: the Kings of comedy, like and that was the first
Speaker 4: comedy tourl but like, did y'all draw the blueprint from
Speaker 4: that and said, like, yo, we have enough talent to
Speaker 4: do that as well?
Speaker 2: Uh No, I think that comes from I think that's
Speaker 2: more on us the just the way you feel about
Speaker 2: yourself side of the game in regards to what you
Speaker 2: feel you possess and what you receive once you present
Speaker 2: that to people. Because I can think I'm shit, but
Speaker 2: when I get up and present it, if I don't
Speaker 2: get that back, it's clear you got some reworking to do.
Speaker 2: So I think what came with us is that we
Speaker 2: all got together and saw the response, even though it
Speaker 2: was just couple of people when it first started. We
Speaker 2: saw that people cared about what we were doing enough
Speaker 2: to come back again. So I think that's what made
Speaker 2: us have the motivation to do it there. But as
Speaker 2: far as what gave us the motivation to want to
Speaker 2: be comics, that comes from just all different places. Like
Speaker 2: I look up to so many different guys. I've always
Speaker 2: been a fan of comedy, but I never grew up
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be a comedian, you know, that was
Speaker 2: never something that I thought that I would do. But
Speaker 2: I've been a student of the game just because you know,
Speaker 2: I was influenced by the people around me, and they
Speaker 2: watched Deaf Comedy jam My mama had all the tapes,
Speaker 2: and you know, my uncles and them used to you know,
Speaker 2: the most influential comedian to me is Earthquake, because that's
Speaker 2: who I saw the people who I looked up to
Speaker 2: laughing at all the time. It's Comedy Central days, all
Speaker 2: of that. So I remember we all watched Comedy Central
Speaker 2: and you know, watching Duvall do the remix of the
Speaker 2: and I know, did my seem strange? And all that.
Speaker 2: The Chappelle Show and all of these different influences from
Speaker 2: when I was young played in to my influence once
Speaker 2: I started being a comedian, and I realized, oh, I
Speaker 2: already got this bank of information and material that I've
Speaker 2: been influenced by. Now I need to go back and
Speaker 2: watch it and analyze it and see what I can
Speaker 2: learn and see how I can become better, and see
Speaker 2: what I can pick up and the rules of the game.
Speaker 2: I read books, I did everything that I can do
Speaker 2: to try to build my wealth of information and wealth
Speaker 2: of knowledge in regards to the game, so I wouldn't
Speaker 2: just be coming in thinking that my talent was just enough. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of times people just think like
Speaker 4: it's just get up there and starting telling Joe's Bloyd.
Speaker 4: There's a method to this, like the timing of it,
Speaker 4: even becoming a great writer, because I know that's something
Speaker 4: that you've become over time.
Speaker 2: It's like there's a process to that most definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's definitely a process you learn through. You know, it's
Speaker 2: trial and errator, you know what I mean. You get
Speaker 2: up there and you know, like my first show, I
Speaker 2: did the four minutes and I killed and I was
Speaker 2: the shit. Then that next time I came back, I
Speaker 2: bombed bad, I mean horribly, And then it's like my
Speaker 2: first two experiences were or that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I got the feeling of euphoria that you get,
Speaker 2: and then I got the feeling of So I got
Speaker 2: that early. So I knew what both of those were
Speaker 2: and how to and I just started to teach myself
Speaker 2: how to learn from both. So it's all just how
Speaker 2: you take in whatever it is it is that you're doing,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, especially with comedy because
Speaker 2: it's when you're doing stand up, you stand, it's just
Speaker 2: you flat foot with a microphone and your perspective being
Speaker 2: projected out into a room full of people, and hopefully
Speaker 2: your perspective can touch whatever it is that they got
Speaker 2: going on something that they may you know, be going
Speaker 2: through with something that they may you know, be ashamed of,
Speaker 2: and then then thought they were going through a loan
Speaker 2: and then they hear you talk about it, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: so you pick up those things through experience. So I
Speaker 2: just think it's just you doing it that gets you
Speaker 2: to the point where you feel like I'm good at.
Speaker 3: What I do because I think that that's like, it's
Speaker 3: very important what you said, because it's like for anybody,
Speaker 3: you got to study your craft. And it's like it
Speaker 3: reminds me of like a boxer, like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like Floyd is somebody like they watch hours
Speaker 3: of tape, so people, Mike Troy said, they might not
Speaker 3: consider like that you're watching literally your out, you're watching
Speaker 3: other comedians like watching tape for you know, like if
Speaker 3: you athlete and just explain to people how hard it
Speaker 3: is to do stand up because I always hear comedians
Speaker 3: saying like stand up is the hard because like I
Speaker 3: guess there's like comedians that are crazy funny, but they
Speaker 3: can't do stand up like every just because you're a
Speaker 3: funny comedian doesn't mean you can do stand up Like.
Speaker 3: That's like public speaking is already the biggest fear for
Speaker 3: most people. Not only are you speaking publicly, but you
Speaker 3: got to actually try to make people laugh, which isn't
Speaker 3: easy to do, like and you like on an island
Speaker 3: by yourself. So like, how is that like nerve rap?
Speaker 3: Like how is the vibe on telling stand up jokes?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know, I think that the stand up game is
Speaker 2: a little different than any other form of entertainment because
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have the the luxury of being repetitive,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If I make a hit song,
Speaker 2: I can perform that song over and over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. But if I got to hit joke,
Speaker 2: it's only a hit joke till everybody has seen it
Speaker 2: and laughed at it. Now I can't show back up
Speaker 2: and tell.
Speaker 4: You, Joe, because I'm thinking, Like even with songs, by
Speaker 4: the time I'm performing it already you.
Speaker 2: Already know the words. But if I come and and
Speaker 2: and do a and do a show and kill. When
Speaker 2: I come to a comedy club and then I come
Speaker 2: back and give you the exact same set again, you
Speaker 2: donna feel like you wasted your I heard that. Now
Speaker 2: there is a switch. There is a switch that gets
Speaker 2: flipped when you get to a point in the game
Speaker 2: where people start to fall in love with you so
Speaker 2: much as they request certain things that you've done. But
Speaker 2: that comes after a certain amount of time, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But at the beginning, it causes you
Speaker 2: to be you have to continuously, continuously write. And I
Speaker 2: think what makes it so difficult is because people don't
Speaker 2: know how to tap into what it is that they're
Speaker 2: going through and make it relatable. Like anybody can get
Speaker 2: on stage and tell a funny story, but how does
Speaker 2: this funny story tie into something that you've been through?
Speaker 2: How does what I'm talking about register into some experience
Speaker 2: that might be completely different in regards to, you know, logistics,
Speaker 2: but the same in regards to the overall aspect of
Speaker 2: what happened. Like that's the difficulty of it, because if
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here saying, uh, Mike neck loose on his
Speaker 2: T shirt, Like Mike got the loose neck on his
Speaker 2: T shirt, Like it's you've probably had loose necks on
Speaker 2: your T shirt before, But how am I gonna make
Speaker 2: this situation relate to when you had your loose neck
Speaker 2: and you had one, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: all of that counts. So I mean, I'm not come on, Mike,
Speaker 2: I'm just using Mike is my man. Mike already left
Speaker 2: our podcast and just talking about his polo shirt, so
Speaker 2: I would just using you see how I tied it
Speaker 2: back in the shirts and the mic and there you go.
Speaker 4: You know, I think that makes y'all incredible, man, because
Speaker 4: you're super talented at like I'm trying to think like
Speaker 4: when you started were you're writing sketches, because now I
Speaker 4: feel like what y'all do is like almost it's almost
Speaker 4: an impossible test.
Speaker 2: Like y'all just do imprompt to comments that we never write.
Speaker 2: It's like, yo, like.
Speaker 4: Y'all, whatever's happening in the moment, like with you and
Speaker 4: LOS and DC when y'all get up on there, it's
Speaker 4: like these dudes are freestyling, but it's in the moment, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't how difficult is that?
Speaker 2: Man? And when you practice to learn that, and that's
Speaker 2: the crazy part for us. It's not difficult. That's with
Speaker 2: the magic of it. Like we've never said all right,
Speaker 2: this is we're gonna do bro Like sometimes we don't
Speaker 2: even see each other till we right behind the curtain
Speaker 2: for real, because we're all coming from different places. So
Speaker 2: it's just a you know, it's kind of like when
Speaker 2: you get the recipe right, and when you get that
Speaker 2: recipe right, it's going to hit every time. And for us,
Speaker 2: it's a natural synergy, like we kind of speak without speaking.
Speaker 2: I can look at Loos and know Los can look
Speaker 2: at Fly and no Fly can look at me and
Speaker 2: no without us having to say anything. So for us
Speaker 2: to be able to explain it, it's kind of difficult
Speaker 2: because it's really never been done before in that capacity.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why, but you've never really seen
Speaker 2: three guys who could go and do their own or
Speaker 2: three stars caught up whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: be on stage at the same time and share that
Speaker 2: moment and be able to make it work. So there
Speaker 2: was really no blueprint for that for real for us,
Speaker 2: so we kind of created it. So it's really nothing
Speaker 2: for us to practice because we're doing our shit, Like
Speaker 2: and if we was to get up there and try
Speaker 2: to do you know, somebody else's then that might require
Speaker 2: some rehearsal because it's not natural. But what we do
Speaker 2: is so natural that we don't have to really speak
Speaker 2: about anything. We get up and we go. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, if you watch them clips and it's
Speaker 2: still be amazing to us when we watch them back,
Speaker 2: because I'll say something like it was a clip we
Speaker 2: just put out from the Savannah show a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and Los has said something and I say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that shit sounded like make you happy, like a Disney song.
Speaker 2: And then Los immediately started singing a Disney song and
Speaker 2: we went into a Disney routine about getting our dig suck,
Speaker 2: which respectfully with respectfully, I ain't never had a disrespectful
Speaker 2: dick suck, but I don't know if I would turn
Speaker 2: one down either the side. No, this is not that
Speaker 2: type of podcast, but anyway, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want, like I said, I do not want
Speaker 2: to mess up, and I'm not trying to be the
Speaker 2: person to come up here and switch your routine around,
Speaker 2: you know that type of stuff, Like you can't think
Speaker 2: of that, Like nobody would sit around and be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: let's make up a Disney song about getting our digs
Speaker 2: up and if you do, if you do, like it's
Speaker 2: just something that you laugh at in the moment, like
Speaker 2: that's crazy, but you're not gonna do it. We were
Speaker 2: able to do it by just talking, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So it's just a it's a level of
Speaker 2: synergy and magic that happens that really none of us
Speaker 2: can't explain or even care to explain. We just blessed
Speaker 2: that God chose us to be the guys that present
Speaker 2: that to the world.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's kind of like kissing styles, Like I
Speaker 3: heard them like when they go back and forth and
Speaker 3: neither one of them write rhyms, they said, and so
Speaker 3: they was like when they get in the studio, they
Speaker 3: just know each other. So well, yeah, it's not like
Speaker 3: they say like because they know they do like two
Speaker 3: bars and then they'll do two bars. So you would
Speaker 3: think that it's like all right, I'm gonna say this
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna say that.
Speaker 5: And they was like, you're just like kissing styles. Have
Speaker 5: you with a missing chat?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's just like I mean, yeah, kiss and styles,
Speaker 2: have you with a missing child? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Bez and Grizzly Groul. It's just that that type of shit,
Speaker 2: like that's some ship we'll do, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like we do that type of and it's just it's natural,
Speaker 2: Like we have never said, all right, bro on the
Speaker 2: this show. We're gonna do this now. We all have
Speaker 2: things that are interesting and entertaining to us individually that
Speaker 2: we all present, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 2: love the culture, different places and music and and fly
Speaker 2: just is wild and just know all the wild shit
Speaker 2: and loss. Just the nigga that just has all of
Speaker 2: the information like a wealth bank of just shit that
Speaker 2: you wouldn't think that the nigga would ever have experienced
Speaker 2: that he can just call to and know it like
Speaker 2: it just happened yesterday. You know, all of those things
Speaker 2: and things that we're all great at and we all
Speaker 2: keep those elements involved when we're doing the show. But
Speaker 2: it's never something that's practiced or rehearsed. It's just we
Speaker 2: get up there and we do what we do. So
Speaker 2: let's go back to North Carolina, right small place.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, it's tough to find a
Speaker 4: talent who discovers the talent like who gives you that
Speaker 4: big break.
Speaker 2: So it's like, now I'm out of here with this comedian.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. Young lady who I went to
Speaker 2: college with named Dolly Bishop. She worked for Nick Cannon.
Speaker 2: She was like his assistant at a time, and we
Speaker 2: were cool in school and she was working with him
Speaker 2: and Nick started, you know, he was doing the radio
Speaker 2: show up in New York and he was doing fresh
Speaker 2: Faces of comedy, like when he was just doing a
Speaker 2: comedy night in Gotham in New York and he was
Speaker 2: just presenting new comedians with her having that relationship and
Speaker 2: knowing what we were doing. She's from North Carolina and
Speaker 2: you know, went to Winston Salem State with us and
Speaker 2: knowing that we were down there, you know, creating what
Speaker 2: we were creating, and she was like, it would be
Speaker 2: dope if you guys was to come up and do
Speaker 2: the show. And I went up in the end of
Speaker 2: twenty ten and did the show. And that was my
Speaker 2: first time meeting Nick. And when I got to the
Speaker 2: comedy club, and this is Gotham, this is one of
Speaker 2: the big comedy clubs. This is like one of the
Speaker 2: New York you know what I mean, It's the mecca
Speaker 2: so when I went to the guy who owned the club,
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I don't know who you are, so
Speaker 2: you can't curse, can't say the N word, can't talk
Speaker 2: about sex and all this, And I'm at that point,
Speaker 2: that's all I was talking about. So me being the
Speaker 2: person that I am, like, I've never really written jokes down.
Speaker 2: I'll just walk around and talk to myself and get
Speaker 2: it together. So I was outside walking around talking to
Speaker 2: myself and Nick pulled up and seen me outside walking
Speaker 2: and talking to myself. To mind you, we in New York,
Speaker 2: so that's normal every day New York, so you know everybody, yeah,
Speaker 2: walk past you. Just so I'm out there just walking
Speaker 2: in circles talking to myself and he pulls up and
Speaker 2: sees it. And I didn't even know that he saw me.
Speaker 2: But when I went on stage, I did my set
Speaker 2: about that day, Like I had to ride the bus
Speaker 2: from LaGuardia to my hotel and I had to get
Speaker 2: on the bus like the city bus, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And I got on the bus in Queens
Speaker 2: and the first thing I said on stage was like, man,
Speaker 2: y'all need to start changing the names of shit around here.
Speaker 2: Because I got on the bus and queens and the
Speaker 2: Queen is the last thing I saw on that, but
Speaker 2: it was, and it just I didn't Occupy Wall Street
Speaker 2: was going on, and I told a joke about Occupy
Speaker 2: Wall Street. I was like, I can't go down there.
Speaker 2: I'll be wasting the people's time because they down there
Speaker 2: worrying about the way that Wall Street is, you know,
Speaker 2: robbing and pillaging and taking away from the American people.
Speaker 2: I'm down there with a sign that says we should
Speaker 2: be able to get changed out of ATM machines. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like you don't always need twenty dollars.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just need a dollar eighty seven cent, Like
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to risk on you thirty bucks when
Speaker 2: I only need a dollar eighty seven. So I'm doing
Speaker 2: all of that on stage, and when you know, I
Speaker 2: ended up killing And when I came off stage, Nick
Speaker 2: stopped me and was like, Yo, bro, did you just
Speaker 2: was you just outside making all that shit up? I
Speaker 2: was like yeah. He was like, man, I'm around some
Speaker 2: of the best in the game. They can't do what
Speaker 2: you just did. Keep working. So that was my first
Speaker 2: introduction to the shot. Fast forward a couple of years later,
Speaker 2: I see a tweet that Nick says, I'm looking for
Speaker 2: new talent. I'm bringing wild'n out back. So I immediately
Speaker 2: hit Dolly like yo, this is real and she was
Speaker 2: like yeah. I said, well just let me know whatever
Speaker 2: that is I need to do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And Nick had a syndication, I believe, at a radio
Speaker 2: station in North Carolina and Charlotte. So he decided to
Speaker 2: do an audition to promote the radio show. And you know,
Speaker 2: in conjunction with you know, him being having family ties
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, he decided to do one in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: So me and my got beat at, got my Saturn
Speaker 2: View and drove Yah. Yeah, my Saturn they don't but
Speaker 2: they they they motherfuckers from another planet. That got it.
Speaker 2: That got me the where I go. So, uh we
Speaker 2: drove my Saturn View to the audition. I did the
Speaker 2: audition and Nick remember me. He was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: remember you, man, I remember you, the cat from Gotham. Man.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You did your thing. And
Speaker 2: I went in and did the audition and killed the audition,
Speaker 2: and uh, that's really where it started right there. So
Speaker 2: it came from me being in North Carolina and having
Speaker 2: relationships with somebody who also was from North Carolina who
Speaker 2: came up to New York and started to establish her
Speaker 2: own you know, legacy and everything, and it just kind
Speaker 2: of fell into place, you know, that that organic thing
Speaker 2: that the universe does when when you make the right
Speaker 2: decisions and follow the dreams that you're supposed to follow.
Speaker 3: So that's where eighty five South comes from. Obviously you
Speaker 3: guys are all.
Speaker 2: On well no, no, no, no, no, no, well, yeah, the eighty
Speaker 2: five South comes from all of us being Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was just a brainchild of Lows like Los always, you know,
Speaker 2: because he's our elder in regards to comedy. He's been
Speaker 2: doing it longer than me and Fly, and he just
Speaker 2: has an understanding of the game, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because he didn't been in the trenches with it, and
Speaker 2: he comes from Atlanta, where, like I said, there was
Speaker 2: already infrastructure set up, so he knew certain elements of
Speaker 2: the game and knew that, ay man, we gotta we
Speaker 2: gotta you know, something gotta share, we gotta do something
Speaker 2: that's ours, we gotta do something for us. So it
Speaker 2: was always something that he was talking about doing, and
Speaker 2: we have conversation. That's something that we do all the time.
Speaker 2: We just build and build because conversation is is so
Speaker 2: important and that's something that a lot of us as
Speaker 2: black men take for granted, like that you to be
Speaker 2: illegal for a group of niggas to stand around and
Speaker 2: talk to each other, that you can't do that and
Speaker 2: share information. So we take pride in that. So we
Speaker 2: always building and talking about the things that we can
Speaker 2: and will do. Even within us starting to make history
Speaker 2: within the space of out, wild'n Out, we still were like,
Speaker 2: you know, what else can we do? So once it
Speaker 2: kicked off, it was just really loose knowing that with
Speaker 2: him having the foresight to know that, man, we got
Speaker 2: something different. So we got to figure out a platform
Speaker 2: that we can be who we want to be all
Speaker 2: the time. Because we can be who we want to
Speaker 2: be on wilding Out, But there's still a you know,
Speaker 2: terms and conditions that have to be followed in and
Speaker 2: a structure that has to be followed that was created
Speaker 2: before you, and out of respect for the culture and
Speaker 2: everything that goes along with it, you got to follow that.
Speaker 2: You can break out of it here and there, and
Speaker 2: those moments, you know, create historic moments. But at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's still a functional structure that
Speaker 2: you have to follow. With us, we wanted to be
Speaker 2: able to do whatever we wanted to do whenever we
Speaker 2: wanted to do it, however we wanted to do it,
Speaker 2: And that's really where it came from. If it came
Speaker 2: from us being on Wilding Out and then realizing that
Speaker 2: this is a springboard. It's giving us a light, it's
Speaker 2: putting a light on us. So now people are looking
Speaker 2: at us. So what can we give people now that
Speaker 2: the light is on us? So I think was just
Speaker 2: we give them everything. There's a lot of cast members
Speaker 2: from Wilding Out. What was it about y'all three that
Speaker 2: made y'all click up and say we can do this together?
Speaker 2: Not to say that the other other cast members couldn't have,
Speaker 2: but there's something special about the three of y'all. What
Speaker 2: wasn't that excluded the others out? Well, I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: say it was exclusion. Really, me and Los met before,
Speaker 2: way before wild'n Out, Like we met at a college
Speaker 2: show at Winster Selton State while I went to school.
Speaker 2: We were doing the FFCS and he came down with
Speaker 2: Zuman Miller and did a set and we met there.
Speaker 2: And then when we ended up doing an audition in
Speaker 2: New York for wild'n Out, I didn't know anybody, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It was a bunch of people there.
Speaker 2: But then he walked in and we saw each other,
Speaker 2: and then from that moment we didn't been clicked up,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then Fly came in
Speaker 2: a couple of years later, but Fly just was like us,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like we have a certain
Speaker 2: type of energy and a certain way we conduct ourselves
Speaker 2: that he just was built for, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 2: So when it got started, it got started in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: would originally you know, Flying Lows Bend as though they
Speaker 2: was located in Atlanta, and then me just being tied
Speaker 2: into what we already was doing. It was like I
Speaker 2: was calling in on the phone while I'm doing my
Speaker 2: FFCS shows, and in North Carolina, I'm calling it on
Speaker 2: the phone while they recording mad because they won't let
Speaker 2: me know what the studio is, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like those type of things we were doing just to
Speaker 2: get the you know, just using all of that energy
Speaker 2: that we had that we were in the process of
Speaker 2: creating to build this up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: no matter where how we can do it, whatever we
Speaker 2: needed to do, we were going to do. So it
Speaker 2: really wasn't even an exclusion of anybody else. It was
Speaker 2: just that we all ready were clicked up. We already
Speaker 2: were you know, had a brother relationship, and then when
Speaker 2: it started to and we're all fans of each other.
Speaker 2: That's another big thing, you know, not that we're not
Speaker 2: fans of the other cast members on wild'n Out, because
Speaker 2: we definitely are, but we're all genuinely fans of each other.
Speaker 2: And in the eighty five South show is just a
Speaker 2: reflection of the ship that we would do anyway. We
Speaker 2: would be doing and talking these conversations and tripping and
Speaker 2: having fun when it's just us. So why not, you know,
Speaker 2: turn some cameras on and let the world see it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's pretty much where
Speaker 2: it came from. It was just, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: this a natural synergy and we always at this point
Speaker 2: we genuinely love each other like we brothers, so's it
Speaker 2: makes it easy. One of the things that I've learned
Speaker 2: about the comedy game is like a lot of niggas
Speaker 2: don't fuck with each other. You know, they don't have
Speaker 2: real relationships because comedy, like I said, it's an individual sport.
Speaker 2: It's like everybody want to be the guy, want to
Speaker 2: be the star. So it's very seldom that you That's
Speaker 2: probably why you've never seen our format done before, because
Speaker 2: it's like everybody wants to be somebody got to be
Speaker 2: the guy, you know what I mean. And for us,
Speaker 2: it was just that of understanding, Like, bro, I don't
Speaker 2: all of us had a perspective that we know what
Speaker 2: this do. But I know I think about it like
Speaker 2: I don't care what you have. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: you have. There is nobody on the planet that has
Speaker 2: for me. What's for me is for me. And if
Speaker 2: I can get with for me while you get with
Speaker 2: for you at the same time, then brother, that's dope.
Speaker 2: We're good, you know what I mean. So that's always
Speaker 2: been our perspective. We don't care nothing about the way
Speaker 2: things supposed to go. We're gonna do what we want
Speaker 2: to do. That was the point of starting this shit
Speaker 2: in the first place, for us to be able to
Speaker 2: do whatever we wanted to do.
Speaker 3: And I think you bring up a valid point as
Speaker 3: far as I think there's an African proverb it's like
Speaker 3: you can run fast loan, but you can run far
Speaker 3: with a pack of course. So it's like and I
Speaker 3: don't think especially Black people, we still struggle with that
Speaker 3: as far as like understanding the power in working together.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, for you guys to actually
Speaker 3: do that, it's dope because it's like you said, you
Speaker 3: could have started your own thing, yeah, and had you
Speaker 3: do this and low stud that and DC just do that.
Speaker 3: Y'all still have your individual brands, but it's like together
Speaker 3: like the vult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three headed monster man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's just you understand that. You know, like I said,
Speaker 2: we build just on in general, and we understand the
Speaker 2: transfer of information amongst black men. It's something that has
Speaker 2: been strategically kept away from us. Like information is the
Speaker 2: biggest weapon that's been used against our people. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: it's the information that we've been denied and that has
Speaker 2: been you know, kept away from us to where we
Speaker 2: don't even have the mind state and a lot of
Speaker 2: as a whole to even know where to go to
Speaker 2: get it. That's why y'all are so dope because this
Speaker 2: is not something that is being taught in the homes
Speaker 2: in schools. So where do we go to get this information?
Speaker 2: And it's the same way what we do. Like what
Speaker 2: we do is showing that man, it don't matter where
Speaker 2: you're from, what your background is, what street you from,
Speaker 2: what city you from, what your background is, you can
Speaker 2: build with your brothers, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: you can build a legacy while doing it. You can
Speaker 2: do something great. Don't be afraid to know rock with
Speaker 2: somebody and mind you, there's certain you know, protocols that
Speaker 2: need to be taken. You got to have a certain
Speaker 2: character and moral and principle. But that's just in life.
Speaker 2: So if you see somebody and they possess the morals
Speaker 2: and principles and characteristics that you respect and vice versa,
Speaker 2: then it's no need for y'all to ever feel like
Speaker 2: you can't coexist and build something together, because that's what
Speaker 2: we've been lacking. You know what I mean. You just
Speaker 2: seen the video that for Real and jay Z put
Speaker 2: out and yeah, and just seeing all of the camaraderie.
Speaker 2: But in my mind, what linked all of that up
Speaker 2: is that all of these people that are black somehow
Speaker 2: came together. You know what I mean to make whatever
Speaker 2: happen happen. And then now you see it in the video,
Speaker 2: like you see how it all ties back in. But
Speaker 2: somebody gotta be unafraid to rock with their brother. Now.
Speaker 2: Mind you, it's a bunch of hard stories, and there
Speaker 2: always will be. That's never gonna stop. It's always gonna be.
Speaker 2: For every one success, you're gonna have three hundred. Man,
Speaker 2: that nigga took all my goddamn money. Man, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I thought Mike was cool, man, I
Speaker 2: thought I could trust him. Then he came in with
Speaker 2: a regular size call, and then I knew shit was
Speaker 2: fucked up. So it's always those stories that come. But
Speaker 2: you it's all in Life is about perspective and perception.
Speaker 2: So it's all in how you view it. If you
Speaker 2: choose to focus on the messed up stuff, that's what
Speaker 2: you're going to project into your world. If you choose
Speaker 2: to focus on the winning and set your mind and
Speaker 2: negate all of the you know, blott of that comes
Speaker 2: into your mind, and you'll be able to make some
Speaker 2: cool stuff happen.
Speaker 3: So when you guys were setting up eighty five South,
Speaker 3: because I want to cause a lot of times like
Speaker 3: entertain this, they get taken advantage of financially right, because
Speaker 3: it's like even with.
Speaker 5: Like I referenced the story a lot of Fat Joe.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know that story, but like
Speaker 3: he went to jail for tax evasion, and the reason
Speaker 3: why he went to jail is because his accountant was
Speaker 3: paying his bills for him and he never realized that
Speaker 3: he wasn't paying his bills and he was actually like
Speaker 3: stealing money from him. By the time he actually realized
Speaker 3: it was too late, it was too late. He get
Speaker 3: paid taxes in two years. And you hear a lot
Speaker 3: of stories like Kevin Garnett sueing his financial advisors. So
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, a lot of times sports entertainment,
Speaker 3: we just taught to just perform and not deal with
Speaker 3: the business.
Speaker 5: So like, how did you guys coming together?
Speaker 3: Is one thing to come together as collective for your talent,
Speaker 3: but not only are you doing that, but you built
Speaker 3: a business brand as well, So like what was the
Speaker 3: did you guys do that together or you had like
Speaker 3: outside help to be like all right, this is what
Speaker 3: we need now.
Speaker 2: It's really it really was just a you know, a
Speaker 2: conglomerate of minds that all had the same goal as
Speaker 2: you know, Man, we can make this work, you know, Chad, Cat, Joe,
Speaker 2: all of us, you know. But one thing I'll say
Speaker 2: is Chad is is very meticulous, like with everything, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and he has a you know,
Speaker 2: a very very short patience for anything that isn't right
Speaker 2: in his mind. And you need that. You need that
Speaker 2: because if somebody is dedicated to a goal, and we
Speaker 2: all supposed to be dedicated to that goal, I should
Speaker 2: be able to send you into the room and everything
Speaker 2: that's in my mind out here is being transferred in there.
Speaker 2: And Chad, you know, he does that. So that kept
Speaker 2: us away from a lot of the mind you we've
Speaker 2: been through some financial goals in regards to dealing with
Speaker 2: people who didn't have that mind state, but we always
Speaker 2: knew that the common goal was the common goal and
Speaker 2: keeping that and going through those ups and downs and
Speaker 2: learning dealing with different promoters and not getting paid and
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to split the disc that
Speaker 2: way and all of those different things. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: can be problems problematic if you're not if you don't
Speaker 2: have transparency. Transparency is key, you know, everybody not gonna
Speaker 2: have the answers all the time, but I should be
Speaker 2: able to look you in your face and say I
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Speaker 2: Stuck, you know, that's what you get lost in translation
Speaker 2: because I'm believing, like you said, I'm believing you paying
Speaker 2: my bills. I'm believing I'm straight, when in reality, you
Speaker 2: don't even know what you're doing or you're robbing me.
Speaker 2: So that transparency is key and it gives. And that's
Speaker 2: something that I say is very key with us, is transparency, good, bad,
Speaker 2: or indifferent. We're going discussing it and chop it up
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make it work. So I think that
Speaker 2: saved us from a lot of people being able to
Speaker 2: take advantage of us because and another thing is, we're
Speaker 2: not looking to fulfill your dreams. Were looking to fulfill lives.
Speaker 2: So you can't come in and tell us what you
Speaker 2: got for us if it don't match what we want
Speaker 2: for us. And that's so important because a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't have what they want mapped out, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, or what the bottom line is mapped out,
Speaker 2: so they'll go in and get sold to somebody else's dream,
Speaker 2: this big dream of how things are supposed to be
Speaker 2: and this and that and all these different, you know,
Speaker 2: glamorous lies that they tell you, when in reality, if
Speaker 2: you got your own goal in mind, you should be
Speaker 2: able to walk into a room and say, this is
Speaker 2: what we have, what do you have? And how can
Speaker 2: we merge this together and make it bigger? If not,
Speaker 2: we'll just keep doing what we're doing over here, because
Speaker 2: we already got it in order, and we don't need
Speaker 2: you to come in and add your flavor because the
Speaker 2: kool aid already got enough sugar water and everything. Over here.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to get the kool Aid flavor able
Speaker 2: to taste different. We're just trying to get it shipped
Speaker 2: to some places that we might not have been able
Speaker 2: to get to because we don't have the infrastructure of
Speaker 2: connections that you have. But as far as us, that
Speaker 2: transparency is so key that we know we got the recipe.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, the recipe is the recipe.
Speaker 2: We built that up. So anybody who doesn't fall in
Speaker 2: line with that, you know what I mean, God bless you.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna keep working the way we're working and
Speaker 2: then whatever comes of that will we'll be able to
Speaker 2: stand on it and be cool with it. So how's
Speaker 2: that work. Are y'all still involved with wowing Out?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Well, nobody's involved, Nigga, you don't watch the news because
Speaker 2: I was thinking.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking in terms of like prior to all this,
Speaker 4: like are they trying to get anything like out of
Speaker 4: the conversation, Like y'all are in the same area, So
Speaker 4: like y'all branch off in your own independent thing.
Speaker 2: It was still going when Well originally started this. Yeah
Speaker 2: we did. We did Wilding Out eighty five. We did
Speaker 2: an eighty five episode. Oh yeah, yeah, we were able
Speaker 2: to do both. You know, one thing I you know,
Speaker 2: of the many things that I say about Nick is
Speaker 2: that you know, he ain't in your pockets. He not
Speaker 2: one of them people that you know. It wasn't no
Speaker 2: three to sixty deal. It wasn't like a situation where
Speaker 2: I right now, what y'all got going on? I need
Speaker 2: some of that. Don't nobody know you if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for me, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not,
Speaker 2: it's not you know, he don't. He didn't run his
Speaker 2: situation like dollar Bill ran the Players Club, Like it
Speaker 2: wasn't that. So we were able to do everything that
Speaker 2: we were able to do while Wilder and I was
Speaker 2: still running, and we were going to continue to be
Speaker 2: able to do it if it was still running.
Speaker 3: That solid he feel about because like we see the
Speaker 3: music business and it's like before the nineties, you had
Speaker 3: to sign to a major record label to get on right,
Speaker 3: But now you got artists that's getting hot on TikTok
Speaker 3: and getting hot on YouTube, and the climate is changing.
Speaker 3: So for for like up and coming comedians, is it
Speaker 3: just because it's like before I guess you had to
Speaker 3: go through like Saturn Nite Live or Death Comedy Jam
Speaker 3: or it's like I feel like you had to be
Speaker 3: on television, but now you got YouTube, but y'all be
Speaker 3: in like a million use on average on your YouTube.
Speaker 3: And it's like comedians is getting hot on Instagram. There's
Speaker 3: a bunch of Instagram comedians shiggy.
Speaker 2: And yeah of course and respect all them guys. Like
Speaker 2: it's just a difference, you know, it's it's progression, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. The world is going to continue
Speaker 2: to turn whether you're on it or not, and change
Speaker 2: comes with that. Like I think I was in the
Speaker 2: last I started in O eight, so I think I
Speaker 2: was in that last generation of comedians who started on stage.
Speaker 2: All the comedians now start on their phone. But that's
Speaker 2: just the way it works. It's no different than when
Speaker 2: you was able to walk through the airport without going
Speaker 2: through getting button neckerd damn near to get on a plane.
Speaker 2: That existed at a point, but then something happened and
Speaker 2: it wasn't like that no more. So. It's the same
Speaker 2: way the Internet came and it changed the format of
Speaker 2: how entertainment is consumed. The average attention span is between
Speaker 2: fifteen and sixty seconds now, where before it was thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: We grew up in increments of thirty minutes, Like you
Speaker 2: would sit down for thirty minutes and watch Martin and
Speaker 2: commercials and you know what I mean, Like it just
Speaker 2: the way. It's all in how you consume information. And
Speaker 2: eventually this will be outdated and it'll be something else.
Speaker 2: So it's just the transition. Now. The hard part is
Speaker 2: when you come from a certain time and then you
Speaker 2: have to transition with the change. That can become difficult
Speaker 2: for a lot of people because a lot of guys,
Speaker 2: a lot of the older guys don't have any respect
Speaker 2: for the Instagram comedians because they started on their phone.
Speaker 2: Like getting hot on your phone is easy. Like if
Speaker 2: it's easy, you should be able to do it because
Speaker 2: it's clear you funny, you've been doing stand up killing
Speaker 2: on stages for twenty years. Why can't you do the
Speaker 2: same thing on here? Because it's the grind is the grind.
Speaker 2: You can't cheat the game. You're gonna have to figure
Speaker 2: it out now, mind you. There's you know, intricacies in
Speaker 2: regards to comedy, because stand up comedy is an everlasting
Speaker 2: art form. It's never gonna go anywhere. People are always
Speaker 2: gonna want to see. It's one of the oldest you know,
Speaker 2: the court just and all of that, and the you know, village, idiot,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. It's always been there.
Speaker 2: Just like music, It's one of those things that will
Speaker 2: always be around. So somebody's gonna figure out a way
Speaker 2: to get it out there so it can be consumed.
Speaker 2: And if you can figure out a way to do
Speaker 2: that within the structure of how it works at that time,
Speaker 2: then you're good. So at that time when it was
Speaker 2: Saturday Light Live and Death Comedy Jam, that was the grind,
Speaker 2: the grind was going and doing a hundred dates until
Speaker 2: Somebody See You and all of that now is getting
Speaker 2: a million views on the video, getting the shade room
Speaker 2: to post, you getting the you know a world star whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, not for getting knocked out, but you know,
Speaker 2: just just any platform that did. Because I don't just
Speaker 2: want to say that and be like Nigga, all I
Speaker 2: gotta do is you know a world star, bro, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make it. I'm gonna go knock somebody out today.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying any platform that has,
Speaker 2: you know, became large within the structure of the way
Speaker 2: information and content is consumed now with the fifteen to
Speaker 2: sixty second model, if you can get on and put
Speaker 2: on through there, or get somebody who's popping on here
Speaker 2: to post you or show you some love. That's just
Speaker 2: as difficult as it was to to get on, but
Speaker 2: it just happens a lot faster, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just as difficult to make it happen, but once
Speaker 2: it happens. Now, you know, if you got on Death
Speaker 2: Comedy Jam, you had to wait for the shit to
Speaker 2: get filmed. Then you had to just like when Wilder'nout
Speaker 2: came on. We shot the first season of wild'n Out
Speaker 2: in January. It didn't come on till July, so that
Speaker 2: whole time we didn't did all this promo saying we're
Speaker 2: gonna be on TV, and then people are like, nig
Speaker 2: you sure you gonna tell you not to trust that.
Speaker 2: We don't know, So we didn't know until it came on,
Speaker 2: so that that gratification took a long time. And that's
Speaker 2: the old model, you know what I mean. You get
Speaker 2: on TV and then it ain't came on until it
Speaker 2: came on. Until you see it on the TV, it
Speaker 2: ain't edge yet. So there's still a chance that until
Speaker 2: you see it come on that screen, that it won't
Speaker 2: happen With this is instant. Oh man, such and such
Speaker 2: as posted my video. There's no way you can deny
Speaker 2: that it's right there. So it's just that when it happens,
Speaker 2: it goes a lot faster, but it's still just as
Speaker 2: difficult to get going as it was back then.
Speaker 4: So in the time, like y'all were killing it right,
Speaker 4: y'all were going on your tours throughout the country, and
Speaker 4: then COVID happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did y'all pivot during this time? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. We've been blessed to build the
Speaker 2: platform to where we, you know, can do what we
Speaker 2: want to do, so we can still feed our audience
Speaker 2: the way that we feed our audience. We just can't
Speaker 2: go touch the people, now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's the only difference. Now mind you did that hurt?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm talking about I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: if you think the neck on his T shirt is loose,
Speaker 2: our jaws was like, hall my god, because we had
Speaker 2: what you liked and fifty dates, just eighty five dates
Speaker 2: all sold out, just fifty dates, Like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean that we already had not including our own
Speaker 2: individual stand up dates like I went. I did my
Speaker 2: last live show March eighth in Nashville and they had
Speaker 2: just had a tornado come. So I did you know
Speaker 2: a bunch of giveback for the people in Nashville because they,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of us were affected by that tornado.
Speaker 2: I flew to La. I was supposed to have a
Speaker 2: couple of meetings. Both the meetings got canceled because stuff
Speaker 2: was shutting down. This when they was acting like LA
Speaker 2: was like ground zero when it first kicked off. So
Speaker 2: I catch a red eye from LA back to Charlotte.
Speaker 2: By the time I landed from LA to Charlotte, all
Speaker 2: my shows was canceled or postponed through August. This is March,
Speaker 2: so just like that, And that comes from you know,
Speaker 2: I think that that is another blessing, just of having
Speaker 2: some sort of financial literacy and understanding. Like me, I'm
Speaker 2: so good with opinions and not caring about what people
Speaker 2: think about me. I lived in my college apartment for
Speaker 2: four seasons of me being on TV and didn't cares
Speaker 2: drove the sad of view until it just was like,
Speaker 2: br come on, but I'm done. It's old with I
Speaker 2: had three hundred thousand miles on that car when I
Speaker 2: traded it in three hundred. Well, yeah, if that's what
Speaker 2: you want to call it, like that, that's what you
Speaker 2: want to call it. Honestly, when I tell you that story,
Speaker 2: like when when I when I went to trade it in,
Speaker 2: I ended up getting a Cadillac. That was the first
Speaker 2: car got after I. After I traded it in and
Speaker 2: I went to trade it in and dude went in,
Speaker 2: you know, they sold me my car, came back out
Speaker 2: and was like, hey, man, you can't find nobody you
Speaker 2: can bless with this. Man, all I'm gonna be able
Speaker 2: to give you is five for it. I'm like five hundred.
Speaker 2: He was like, Nah, a five, bro, that's all I
Speaker 2: was able to give you for it. It was like that.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, like I was cool with that.
Speaker 2: I was cool with that. I was just like, you
Speaker 2: know what, it's whatever you want to do, whatever you
Speaker 2: can get me for it, give it to me, even
Speaker 2: if it's just pay for my tag. That's what my
Speaker 2: sad review did pay for my tags on my Cadillac.
Speaker 2: But it got me to a point where and by
Speaker 2: the time I got the Cadillac, I could a guy
Speaker 2: in it three Because that's just my financial model that
Speaker 2: just comes from where I come from the way I
Speaker 2: was taught. Don't buy nothing unless you can buy it
Speaker 2: three times. If you can't buy it three times in
Speaker 2: full cash, you can't afford it. That's just the way
Speaker 2: I was taught. So I stayed in my college department,
Speaker 2: paying five hundred dollars a month and just save money
Speaker 2: and didn't care that people were like, how you on TV?
Speaker 2: Still living here? I'm like, how you living here? In
Speaker 2: my business? Care what you think? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And I didn't move until it got to a point
Speaker 2: where it was just like my fame reached the level
Speaker 2: to where I can't be over here. It became a liability,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was an asset. At first,
Speaker 2: it was an asset. Being able to write it was
Speaker 2: an ass Yeah. Yeah, it was an asset at first
Speaker 2: when I was still building it up. But then when
Speaker 2: it started to you know, I started to get that recognition.
Speaker 2: And I'm coming in from off a road trip two
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning and the niggas is coming
Speaker 2: out of the house. I told you live around here,
Speaker 2: keep my money. It's like, all right, it's time to
Speaker 2: move now. And I didn't until then. So just having
Speaker 2: that model, that personal business model that I always had
Speaker 2: has saved me during this time, because if I didn't
Speaker 2: have that mentality and I was, you know, just one
Speaker 2: of them guys that had to meet the expectation, keep
Speaker 2: up with the Joneses, as they say, meet the expectations
Speaker 2: of societal norms for somebody who's made it, then I
Speaker 2: would be sick right now because that means I have
Speaker 2: been trying to impress people who don't really care about
Speaker 2: what I got going on. And because I had the
Speaker 2: opposite of that. Now, even though all of this money
Speaker 2: that we've lost or that was left on the table,
Speaker 2: because you can't lose what you never had, but the
Speaker 2: money that was left on the table, it's like we
Speaker 2: can really get motivated by that, Like bruh, we had
Speaker 2: the potential to do this, then that means we got
Speaker 2: the potential to do triple this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's what COVID really has taught us. It's like
Speaker 2: we got the potential to really go even further than
Speaker 2: what it is that we would and in fifty like
Speaker 2: now we realize we could have had one hundred dates.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying we could have had a hundred.
Speaker 2: So it's like it opened my eyes to you know,
Speaker 2: cause it's a lot of people who are not gonna
Speaker 2: come out of this. This is the shift. Twenty twenty
Speaker 2: is the shift. The shift is happening. If you're confused
Speaker 2: about it, don't be. The shift is happening. The things
Speaker 2: that were normal and that were on top and that
Speaker 2: was cool before, it's not going to be that way
Speaker 2: after this is all over. Because you can just see
Speaker 2: the way the world works, how things that we never
Speaker 2: thought could be taken away were stripped this year, like
Speaker 2: stuff that you I mean, the NBA got canceled for
Speaker 2: a minute, and school that they got furloughed from school,
Speaker 2: like I didn't even think that was possible, Like things
Speaker 2: if somebody would have showed you a list of happenings
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty in December of twenty nineteen, you the thought, man,
Speaker 2: get your fuck out of here, and they get out
Speaker 2: of here. What you're smoking? You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: that's impossible. It's not possible. So the fact that all
Speaker 2: of those things have happened this year shows you that
Speaker 2: you're not in control of the stuff that you try
Speaker 2: to control. You're only in control of what you can control.
Speaker 2: And when you realize that, you get to the point
Speaker 2: of no matter what we lost, we wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 2: that didn't define who we were. That was just a
Speaker 2: process of what we were. This was a result of
Speaker 2: us being who we are. So therefore we got just
Speaker 2: as much now even though the world has shifted, we
Speaker 2: have just as much power to move with the shift
Speaker 2: as anything else, just like the world wonna move with
Speaker 2: the shifts. That's the reason why my head is like this,
Speaker 2: like why I got corn rolls now, because it's just idea,
Speaker 2: it's just it just it just is its representative of
Speaker 2: I'm not restrict to what your image of me is.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'll never be restricted to what anybody's image
Speaker 2: of me is because when I look in the mirror,
Speaker 2: I love what I see, no matter what fact. And
Speaker 2: that's what is going on in twenty twenty now, Like
Speaker 2: we've all been restricted to the things that were stripped
Speaker 2: of us this year. Everybody, like to the point where.
Speaker 8: You're like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this,
Speaker 8: and you mean I can't do this, and I gotta
Speaker 8: wear a mask and this that and the third and
Speaker 8: it's sickening to people because you've been restricted to thinking
Speaker 8: that those things were yours.
Speaker 2: But nothing is yours, but what's yours? And it's just
Speaker 2: a representation. This shit is mine. It's wherever it don't
Speaker 2: grow cool, but where it do is mine. So I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna show you that it's possible to do whatever
Speaker 2: you want to do no matter what's going on. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You bring up a good point, especially for entertainers. It's
Speaker 3: like I think Rowdy Rich has said Snoop meek Mill
Speaker 3: Tolton once like save your money and your money will
Speaker 3: save you. And it's like a lot of times you
Speaker 3: make money as it entertained, and it's like you think
Speaker 3: it's it's never going to stop until it stops, and
Speaker 3: then it's like now you know what I'm saying. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: and another thing is that you guys already had different avenues,
Speaker 3: so it's like you're not just relying on one thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, Well, we're not gonna
Speaker 2: talk about how many avenues that.
Speaker 3: At the same point, it's not like if you was
Speaker 3: only doing live shows, you'd.
Speaker 2: Be yeah, no, right, yeah, we was only doing anything,
Speaker 2: we be screwed. But you know, and I may not
Speaker 2: even gonna say we be screwed, because all of us are.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about these things. We had these conversations,
Speaker 2: and you know, I speak about Chad a lot, you
Speaker 2: know when we talk about the business aspect of it.
Speaker 2: Chad is Chad like and that's one of the main
Speaker 2: things that I respect about him. Like he's going to
Speaker 2: be the same dude all the time. And there's a
Speaker 2: twenty twenty teaches you the importance of having that characteristic
Speaker 2: because what you allow to change your you know, natural
Speaker 2: being and who you are determines who you are because
Speaker 2: the things that can come in and affect you like
Speaker 2: you know being Like you know what I'm saying, I've
Speaker 2: been picking on Mike the whole time, and I can
Speaker 2: see him adjusting his collar, but you keep putting it
Speaker 2: over your mouth, Slim, That's what's causing it to be
Speaker 2: stretched out. But you know what, who cares As long
Speaker 2: as he cool with the fact that he got a
Speaker 2: V neck, regular neck, that's all that matters. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 2: I'm teasing, but the reality is I'm using that as
Speaker 2: an analogy, just to show you how simplistic it can be.
Speaker 2: Anything that you allow to change your perspective on who
Speaker 2: you are as a person will damage everything else that
Speaker 2: you have going on. So all of us, one thing
Speaker 2: I would say about all of us is involved in
Speaker 2: our family is we're all who we are one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody pretending to be anything that they're not. And
Speaker 2: I think that's going to push us way further than
Speaker 2: any amount of shows or anything, because the consistency and
Speaker 2: the realism that you see and you feel you can't
Speaker 2: fake that, and that you know can't. You can't put
Speaker 2: a price on it. There is no value to that
Speaker 2: because you see so little of it. And especially in
Speaker 2: this industry, people all do and say whatever it takes
Speaker 2: to be wherever they feel like it's going down at.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you get to a point where
Speaker 2: you're sending somebody into a room to negotiate for you
Speaker 2: or negotiate on your behalf, and you know, I ain't
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to convince Chad to do shit.
Speaker 2: This nigga don't even like to smile all the way
Speaker 2: like he gotta have smile. So yeah, like I was saying,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we were really thinking about doing it this way.
Speaker 2: I heard what you said, but okay, like I was saying, though,
Speaker 2: like that's you can't buy that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I think that's what what what keeps us from being,
Speaker 2: you know, in a situation like a lot of people
Speaker 2: that you see and a lot of entertainers are now like,
Speaker 2: you know, what what am I gonna do? Because a
Speaker 2: lot of people have been living check to check. You
Speaker 2: gonna live check to check no matter how big the
Speaker 2: check is, matter how much you may live check to check,
Speaker 2: no matter how big the check is. So you know,
Speaker 2: we just have a different perspective all the way around.
Speaker 2: Like our business model is completely different. That's why you
Speaker 2: see us affect the world the way that we have
Speaker 2: because all the way from the performance aspect to the
Speaker 2: you know, the boardroom aspect, it's all completely unique to us.
Speaker 4: So I mean, obviously you've created a legacy and you're
Speaker 4: doing that now I'm wondering your family, like your children
Speaker 4: now they watched it saying I want to be like
Speaker 4: that or are you teaching them lessons?
Speaker 2: And what lessons are you teaching them about financially well?
Speaker 2: First of all, I have a child. Man, your children
Speaker 2: know how many kids? I don't even know how many?
Speaker 2: Nah my daughter. I have a daughter that's twelve years old.
Speaker 2: And that's a if I can say anything, that has
Speaker 2: been the biggest blessing of COVID hitting is the fact
Speaker 2: that I've been able to spend time with my daughter
Speaker 2: that I would have never had under the old guard.
Speaker 2: And even if it goes back to when it goes
Speaker 2: back to whatever it goes to, that time is more
Speaker 2: valuable than anything that I could have gave her monetary,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And she understands what I do.
Speaker 2: Like the first five years of her life, I was present,
Speaker 2: you know. I was in North Carolina, she was there,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, back and forth to DC.
Speaker 2: I was able to be there for those formative years.
Speaker 2: And then she got six on up to this year,
Speaker 2: I didn't been just and I stop in, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, make sure everything good, everybody good, everybody ate,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody feet dirty? All right? We good? You know?
Speaker 2: And then I would always take her and her friends
Speaker 2: on a trip for a birthday. You know, we would
Speaker 2: go some we've been at you know, Miami and you know,
Speaker 2: Disneyland last year, just to show them, like, because I
Speaker 2: know the way that they understand the world. It's like,
Speaker 2: this is why I'm gone so much. I know it
Speaker 2: doesn't make up for the time, but I still want
Speaker 2: you to understand that me being able to do this
Speaker 2: is a result of me being on the road and
Speaker 2: doing all of this all that, and not only do
Speaker 2: I want you to be able to benefit from it,
Speaker 2: I want your friends and you and your close family
Speaker 2: to be able to benefit from it too, because as
Speaker 2: y'all grow, I want you to understand the importance of
Speaker 2: being able to share in success and share in things
Speaker 2: that you know. You don't have to feel like, oh
Speaker 2: it's something good, mind, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: want you to have the responsibility of knowing that because
Speaker 2: you are my child, and because I have the perspective
Speaker 2: that I have, it's gonna garner you a different responsibility.
Speaker 2: So I want you to start learning that responsibility as
Speaker 2: early as possible. So that's why I make sure I
Speaker 2: take her friends with her so she can know like,
Speaker 2: it's not just it's about you. But it's not just
Speaker 2: about you, because as you grow older, you're going to
Speaker 2: have a greater responsibility than a lot of people around
Speaker 2: you because they haven't been as blessed as you are.
Speaker 2: Because I was one of those people that at a
Speaker 2: certain point in time and I had to create the blueprint,
Speaker 2: and luckily for you, I'm creating one that you can follow.
Speaker 2: But your friends might not have anybody around them that
Speaker 2: can do that for them. So they can follow yours
Speaker 2: because they've been around it the whole time and they
Speaker 2: know it's real.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this for you rap.
Speaker 3: So obviously, you know, Nick Cannon provide a lot of
Speaker 3: opportunities for most tellings, and people don't really I don't
Speaker 3: think they fully appreciate that. Like he really took a
Speaker 3: lot of people from not people didn't know who they were,
Speaker 3: and they were superstars after they left the show.
Speaker 5: So obviously, you know the situation that he's in right now.
Speaker 3: What's your opinion on that as far as like just
Speaker 3: not really like too much like on a personal but
Speaker 3: just like, how do you feel about like him not
Speaker 3: having that show? Like it's like to me, it's his show,
Speaker 3: but it's really not his show obviously now like we
Speaker 3: learned that as his show. I mean as far as
Speaker 3: like the legal yeah, fuck, all that, So like how
Speaker 3: you feel?
Speaker 2: How I mean, you know what, Man, It's like at
Speaker 2: a certain point, I realize that there's not too much
Speaker 2: praise that come with being genius in your moves while
Speaker 2: you're still here on the planet. Usually, you know, when
Speaker 2: you die, motherfuckers be like, oh man, he was so
Speaker 2: great and he did all of these great things. But
Speaker 2: when you're here, it doesn't really resonate with people because
Speaker 2: they become accustomed, you know, and used to it. And
Speaker 2: one of the things that the main thing that I
Speaker 2: take from all of this happening is as much ship
Speaker 2: as people have talked about Nick over the years, when
Speaker 2: you see how much power he has in creating the
Speaker 2: stars that he's created and creating a platform that he created, Like,
Speaker 2: how do we not understand that it's just as important
Speaker 2: for all of us to carry that same mind state,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it sucks, Like if
Speaker 2: I would did I did? I wanted that to be
Speaker 2: the way that it was going to end. No, I
Speaker 2: wanted us to go out in Vegas.
Speaker 5: Way.
Speaker 2: I wanted that to be if I had to pick.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I'm just glad
Speaker 2: that he had the vision to be able to put
Speaker 2: us in position to do what we did. And as
Speaker 2: far as the whole fallout goes, like, we haven't been
Speaker 2: addressed at all. So until we're addressed, and that not
Speaker 2: by Nick, like that's different, we you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like he did everything that he was supposed to do.
Speaker 2: That was a family environment. So many black people employed
Speaker 2: by this show. It's so many people that came from
Speaker 2: that show, so many opportunities that were created from that show.
Speaker 2: We haven't been addressed at all. So as as a cast,
Speaker 2: none of that, we haven't been addressed at all. So
Speaker 2: I don't even feel comfortable giving an opinion until we're
Speaker 2: addressed in some way because obviously my opinion doesn't count
Speaker 2: that much because if it did, then we would have
Speaker 2: been addressed publicly in some way, shape or form canceled.
Speaker 2: And I don't know nothing was said. I just know
Speaker 2: the shit don't come on no more. That's all I know.
Speaker 2: When I turn on TV on the days that it's
Speaker 2: supposed to come on, it's not. And that's all I know.
Speaker 4: That's crazy because like there was I mean for months,
Speaker 4: especially during COVID, that's the only thing that was.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing. A lot of people watch and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Yeah right, and you know
Speaker 2: who knows, but you know what I mean, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like, you know, for the cast for us, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, on the on the corporate side
Speaker 2: of the game, Like you know, it is what it is,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's kind of like if
Speaker 2: the best way that I can explain it is kind
Speaker 2: of like the way that that the Powers that Be
Speaker 2: presented it. It was like Nick and Viacoma getting the divorce,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like the cast as the kids
Speaker 2: they got to stay out of grown folk business and
Speaker 2: at that and at this point, I'm staying out of
Speaker 2: grown folk business, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna leave it at that because I know how much
Speaker 2: that space not only means to us, but it means
Speaker 2: to us. When I say us, I mean us, that's
Speaker 2: our in Living Color. I was just thinking that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's our generations in Living Car,
Speaker 2: that's our generator. That's a black show that was you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, employee, black people had a black
Speaker 2: show runner, black executive producers, black people who I mean
Speaker 2: all the way down to the people who drove the
Speaker 2: vans from the hotel to set every day. A lot
Speaker 2: of these people went on to start their own media
Speaker 2: companies and all of that, Like this is a this
Speaker 2: is a structural platform that worked for us. So until
Speaker 2: us is addressed, then I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on. I just know I lost my job
Speaker 2: while I wasn't working it. I got fired on my
Speaker 2: day off, not even on my day off. The COVID
Speaker 2: cut everybody off. And then it's just like we just
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's over over, over over over okay,
Speaker 2: like ever ever it was over over, So it's you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I just you know, I'm just thankful.
Speaker 2: I'm thankful for the opportunities that Nick has provided for us,
Speaker 2: all of us are. And you know, as far as
Speaker 2: him personally, man Nick a big boy man, he'll be
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean. That's what I know.
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that dude do all types of magical stuff.
Speaker 2: He'll be straight. But as far as but wild'n out
Speaker 2: is and all of us, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that there should be more of an appreciation
Speaker 2: for what that space has brought to us as a people,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Regardless of whether or not
Speaker 2: how you feel about what happened, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And obviously Nick has apologized for what he said, so
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's nothing more to discussing
Speaker 2: that regard. He's doing what he's supposed to do directify
Speaker 2: that situation. But there's a whole group of people who
Speaker 2: are affected by this who haven't even been said hey, man,
Speaker 2: appreciate y'all or anything. And that doesn't just go for
Speaker 2: our generation. I'm talking about from the guys that were
Speaker 2: superstars that came from the show before we got on it.
Speaker 2: None of that has been addressed. So I mean until then,
Speaker 2: you know, don't I don't know how they feel about us.
Speaker 3: That's dope, man. One last question, so how'd you get
Speaker 3: in stocks? Because I know you talked the other day
Speaker 3: and you said you would invest in your brotherhood and
Speaker 3: all that, Like who turned you onto that?
Speaker 2: Another conversation the me and Loe's talking, like you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, He was like, man, you you fuck
Speaker 2: with the Stocks? I'm like, nah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I'm just getting on it too.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just a app called Robinhood that
Speaker 2: you know, you should you should get with, and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, we got to talking just about
Speaker 2: different things, uh, you know, different stocks that we bought
Speaker 2: and different things that we use on a daily day basis.
Speaker 2: And that's how it started. Really didn't have any real
Speaker 2: information on like you know, the depth and wealth of
Speaker 2: information that you guys have, But it was just, you know,
Speaker 2: I go to the you know, it's it's a Shell
Speaker 2: gas station by my house that I get all my
Speaker 2: gas from. So I bought Shell, Nike or some Nike
Speaker 2: because I'm you know, all that stuff that I used, Apple,
Speaker 2: Netflix and Disney, you know what I mean, Facebook, all
Speaker 2: of that. All of that was what I started with.
Speaker 2: And then it just, you know, I started to get
Speaker 2: a little bit more in tune with it. I'm never
Speaker 2: mind you I would be lying to you if I
Speaker 2: said that I was as in tune and interested as
Speaker 2: I am. After talking to you guys, because you know
Speaker 2: that night, I was like, man, give me ship. Did
Speaker 2: you did you take the advice that night?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He did it on the spot. We going to talk
Speaker 2: after this Friday was a great day or it was
Speaker 2: I didn't even know, Yeah that's yeah, Yeah I took
Speaker 2: the advice, and you know, and that's the thing I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys that you know. The
Speaker 2: only reason why I know what I know is because
Speaker 2: I know I don't know shit. I don't know nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm willing to learn whatever. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and I'm willing to hear anybody out about whatever, even
Speaker 2: if I disagree with whatever we talk about. I'm never
Speaker 2: too big to have a conversation. That's that's a value.
Speaker 2: And what you guys are providing in regards to information,
Speaker 2: especially for black people is necessary because that's not something
Speaker 2: that I ever was taught in my life. I know
Speaker 2: how to go get some money out the street, but
Speaker 2: I don't know how to go get some money off
Speaker 2: of Wall Street, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 2: something that we need to be taught. So, you know,
Speaker 2: salute to you guys, man for what you guys do,
Speaker 2: because it's so much information that's that's being skipped over.
Speaker 2: We're being gipt over in a lot of ways. And
Speaker 2: now we got somebody that's of our culture and of
Speaker 2: our background that takes value and teaching us this information.
Speaker 2: And even though I got started by just having that
Speaker 2: conversation that we had, this is no different than that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, That's all it is. I'm
Speaker 2: big on that. Man. We gotta we gotta as black people,
Speaker 2: we gotta start knowing that man, we not I'm not
Speaker 2: just not the enemy. And it's gonna take some time
Speaker 2: because we didn't done so much damage in the process
Speaker 2: of having a different perspective. But bro, it's we gotta communicate.
Speaker 2: It's some game out here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: When we was hearing of Wall Street trapper talking about
Speaker 2: how a white man in jail taught him about white
Speaker 2: collar you know what he was doing in the white
Speaker 2: collar side of the game, and he got all these
Speaker 2: millions of dollars and only got eighteen months with I
Speaker 2: got a cousin doing thirty five years for a pistol
Speaker 2: and some dope. It's like he did not have anywhere
Speaker 2: near a million dollars worth of pistols of dope. He
Speaker 2: didn't have fifteen to sixteen hundred dollars worth of pistols
Speaker 2: of dope. But he's in jail for thirty years. So
Speaker 2: it's like it's a different it's a side of the
Speaker 2: game that we can get on. Playing the wrong game, Yeah,
Speaker 2: playing the wrong game man, and salute to you brothers
Speaker 2: for teaching that the game could be played by us
Speaker 2: on the other side. Man, because that information is very necessary,
Speaker 2: and I'm very thankful that you guys wanted to rock
Speaker 2: with us and are willing to share the information that
Speaker 2: you should.
Speaker 5: Man. Once again, thank you for having us on your
Speaker 5: on your show, Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on yours. Man. Mike, Yeah, Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike left because his polo horse was head man. Mike
Speaker 2: had on the whole region. He had to he had
Speaker 2: to wipe me down polo on Remember the ones from
Speaker 2: to Wipe Me Down video? He had on one of
Speaker 2: those b o old either, Like, he just left that
Speaker 2: club and he was a little frustrated that we noticed it.
Speaker 2: You said what you say, I still.
Speaker 5: Say through Oh yeah, you worked on for three days.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen. Let me tell you something. I am
Speaker 2: living all my nineties fantasies all the way. So that's
Speaker 2: the difference between me and you. They don't admit that.
Speaker 2: Don't be ashamed of whether you wouldn't have left. Then
Speaker 2: if you was living, your rival was leaving. You supposed
Speaker 2: to listen. You're supposed to rode the horse. The horse
Speaker 2: was big enough for you to fit on. You should
Speaker 2: have rode the horse on your shirt to the set
Speaker 2: and you'd have been straight Mike. Salute to Mic.
Speaker 5: Man, they know what Mike looks like?
Speaker 3: Man after Dean thathed interviewing, after this interview Man.
Speaker 2: Man, Mike is Mike? Man, don't you don't worry about
Speaker 2: what Mike looked like? Mike is Mike is? Kis associated
Speaker 2: this thing? Like yeah, just know, hey, if you see
Speaker 2: anybody with a neck on their T shirt and the
Speaker 2: top part of his nipple showing it, Mike be Mike.
Speaker 2: That needs to be something y'all do.
Speaker 6: Y'all need to do a part of y'all need to
Speaker 6: do a part of the series.
Speaker 2: Just throw out random clues and be like, see make
Speaker 2: this nigga like waldough like it might be Mike.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 2: It might it might be Mike. It might not be Mike.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? The banksy there you go,
Speaker 2: there you go. You hear me?
Speaker 4: And I love it in two days to say that I.
Speaker 2: Gonna stop playing. I'm gonna stop playing with Mike. Mike is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they really don't know what Mike
Speaker 2: looked like, they ain't never seen many huh three of these.
Speaker 2: You ain't never been to the beauty supply store, Mike.
Speaker 2: They everywhere. Man, I'm going crazy with these. I got
Speaker 2: the vlor No, I got that. No, I got the Vloyd,
Speaker 2: I got the silk, I got the original. I'm doing
Speaker 2: all of that, man. And that's the thing. If you
Speaker 2: was to embraced big polos, you can have all the colors. Bro,
Speaker 2: you had a multi color. You don't got them all. Man,
Speaker 2: it's an outlet somewhere. It's an outlet mall somewhere. There's
Speaker 2: an outlet mall somewhere with all the big polos that
Speaker 2: you don't got. Embrace it. And we're gonna matter of fact, man,
Speaker 2: you could do a shoot. We're gonna cover your face
Speaker 2: up because they don't what you look like. It'll just
Speaker 2: be meet with Rag and you with the big polo horse.
Speaker 2: Did you say what not? Who is they? I know
Speaker 2: they don't they don't. I do, I do everything, Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike is unique. Man. Mike looked like he was supposed
Speaker 2: to have been in Charlamar, but he started eating too
Speaker 2: much like you. I don't know if you know who
Speaker 2: Charlama is. Charlamar is a group from the eighties where
Speaker 2: all the lights can do. I'm giving too much away.
Speaker 2: You can't loose neck, and they're gonna find you. They
Speaker 2: gonna find them then if they see the loser neck
Speaker 2: analys and I knew that with you, Mike.
Speaker 3: They him the same thing with him a team. So
Speaker 3: then he was like, I'm behind the scenes. He said, Yo,
Speaker 3: look like you behind the scenes to me talking. So
Speaker 3: you went back and forth with Dame. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 3: same thing. That's a a legend for that, you know.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 2: That's all for a lot of I gotta watch that show.
Speaker 2: Is that out? Oh, I'm going to watch that, Mike.
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch that, Mike, And then I'm coming
Speaker 2: back with some notes of what you could have done better.
Speaker 2: First of all, if you didn't have on a big polo,
Speaker 2: you was losing because that is your trademark. White jeans.
Speaker 2: You wore white jeans. You're going to see Frankie Beverly after.
Speaker 2: It wasn't after Labor Day. You also, you was on
Speaker 2: your l a okay, you was on your grand theft
Speaker 2: auto Vice City, I give you. Yeah, you know you
Speaker 2: wasn't good. It was good whitey man wear your white
Speaker 2: jeans and a big polo, and we're gonna do like
Speaker 2: a boat party, like a tom joined. A cruise hosted
Speaker 2: by Mike might be Mike cruise where you gotta wear
Speaker 2: big polos and white jeans and John Clinton. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and then stretch the neck out on the T shirts
Speaker 2: a little bit. You look like he's been in the
Speaker 2: domestic dispute. That's you know what your neck wor your
Speaker 2: T shirt looked like after you've been in the domestic
Speaker 2: your officer. First of all, let me tell you, first
Speaker 2: of all, you can tell from the look at my neck, yo,
Speaker 2: you can tell that's you know, that's.
Speaker 6: The domestic dispute neck. Right then when she got old
Speaker 6: your ass, you're like my neck. I tried to get away.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, salute ascess over liability.
Speaker 3: You know what time of impromptu uh comedy audition. Mike
Speaker 3: just got roasted, don't Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike can't get roasted. Mic back when Mike, Mike came
Speaker 2: back with the jokes.
Speaker 4: Talking about that was that won't be on the website
Speaker 4: though that shirt.
Speaker 6: That Mike, that that's now after this episode, that's the
Speaker 6: the MIC audition, the Mike Domestic Dispute neck domestic dispute,
Speaker 6: neck the money.
Speaker 2: Oh that's dope.
Speaker 6: There you go, stretch the neck out on like forty
Speaker 6: to forty T shirts.
Speaker 2: Oh well, no, I ain't gonna he ain't there yet, Mike.
Speaker 2: We got to combine it with the white jeans before
Speaker 2: we get to the million. But and we gotta put
Speaker 2: the big polo, and that's gonna be a that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a strategic nightmare. That's gonna be a nightmare. So
Speaker 2: this will we doing assets over liability? Special edition might
Speaker 2: be Mike Edition. We're gonna sush your next out and
Speaker 2: all the money that is made is going to be
Speaker 2: given to domestic situation. And that's that's really a good
Speaker 2: IDEA hashtag might be my hashtag might be Mike. Might
Speaker 2: like that. It might be might be it might be Mike.
Speaker 2: I really like that. I really like that. Trade my man.
Speaker 2: That's right. It's cool, y'all. And gave me some stock information.
Speaker 2: I give you that. Yeah, we're trading this.
Speaker 5: Just you know.
Speaker 3: We we got a bottle system going on a whole
Speaker 3: lot of games. How can people contact, well reach you
Speaker 3: on social media? Like, what's your social media handles.
Speaker 2: At Chicago Bean on Instagram? Uh, that's Facebook is Anthony
Speaker 2: Bean at Chicago Bean. I don't really get on Snapchat
Speaker 2: because kids Twitter Twitter at Chicago Bean and you know TikTok,
Speaker 2: i'm ye show and Edy five can't do all that
Speaker 2: all day, Eddy five South Show. You know what I'm
Speaker 2: keeping staying tuned with us. Make sure you stay tuned. Then,
Speaker 2: we got a lot of dope stuff coming eighty Vibe
Speaker 2: season two coming up real soon. We got a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff in the can, a lot of stuff in
Speaker 2: the works, man, a lot of big stuff we're working on. Man.
Speaker 2: So we just want to say thank you to all
Speaker 2: the supporters and all the people who might not be supporters,
Speaker 2: who are supporters of these good brothers. Make sure you
Speaker 2: know we do all of that. They didn't came and
Speaker 2: did our show. We came and did this and it's
Speaker 2: going to continue to go like that because we both
Speaker 2: feel like we're giving our information that's necessity. That's a
Speaker 2: necessity rather to all the good people who are watching. So, man,
Speaker 2: thank you and just make sure you stay tuned.
Speaker 4: In fact, Troy, Yeah, shout out to the bro chat Man.
Speaker 2: They keep mentioning Chat.
Speaker 4: I want to just give him a huge shout out
Speaker 4: because he took his time out about a year ago
Speaker 4: to come sit with us, kicked it with us till
Speaker 4: like three in the morning, gave hims a whole lot
Speaker 4: of game, developed a relationship, and I never forget what
Speaker 4: he said. He's like he was excited for us because
Speaker 4: he's like, Yo, in six to twelve months, your life
Speaker 4: is going to be different. I can't wait till y'all
Speaker 4: to see it. So he had the foresight to see
Speaker 4: it happen. So shout out to him, manh yeah, because
Speaker 4: he just did it out of love.
Speaker 2: Man, that is the hell of a guy.
Speaker 5: I just wasn't sure what he was doing when we
Speaker 5: seen him.
Speaker 3: He had like he didn't have a mask, he had
Speaker 3: a band.
Speaker 2: It was like he was like, yeah, that was just
Speaker 2: that was just Chad. Chas a unique guy. Man. Chad
Speaker 2: had dreams owning the chain of Horizon wireless stores. And
Speaker 2: it's hard for him to get out of that mold,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, he still wants to walk in
Speaker 2: and tell you you need a new SIM card. That's
Speaker 2: just that's still his dream a little bit, so you
Speaker 2: know that's all it is. But yes, the only Chad Man.
Speaker 4: That's my gosh, shout everybody on picture on dot com
Speaker 4: that's proud to pay program obviously to pay the rest
Speaker 4: and everything, everything everything that man obviously four and five
Speaker 4: gets access to y L University, the number one online
Speaker 4: school financial literacy in the world. Really, we have over
Speaker 4: almost two thousand members on there learning every day. We
Speaker 4: got the Investments Club. We have the book club that's
Speaker 4: run by me and uh, the Investment Club run by everybody. Really,
Speaker 4: the community kind of runs it. So shout to order
Speaker 4: and shout everybody's misappointing to merge. Like I said, we
Speaker 4: got some limited stuff that's on the way, so be
Speaker 4: on the lookout for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and once again, man, shout out to the city
Speaker 3: of Atlanta. It's like a second home. Shout out to
Speaker 3: A five South Sol, Shout out to jahout to Chico, Shout.
Speaker 5: To Mike and his crew. Neck v NEX.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nostalgic neck T. Might be Mike presents Nostalgic neck.
Speaker 5: T the DVT.
Speaker 3: Oh yo, we see you guys next week.
Speaker 5: Thank you for your support. Peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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