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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Buck Sexton from our home to yours. Have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show.

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Speaker 2: Looking in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. We roll through the Wednesday

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Speaker 2: edition of the program. We have got a ton of

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Speaker 2: different crazy stories out there to chase. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun with all of you. There is

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Speaker 2: has never been needed before about Hey, which bathrooms is

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Speaker 2: the fake woman going to use? We will discuss some

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Speaker 2: of that. Sonny Houstin and Matt Gaiths, what do you

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Speaker 2: think it's fake woman? Okay? Is that too strong? Right

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Speaker 2: out of the game. I think we just go with man.

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Speaker 2: I think we just go with man man versus fake woman.

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Speaker 2: I can see the arguments in either direction. I think

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Speaker 2: fake woman just calls out the absurdity more than just

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Speaker 2: calling him a man. But I'm open to both arguments

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Speaker 2: coming in hot out of the gate, sunny hostin, Matt Gates,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be fun. Elon Musk buys Twitter and suddenly

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Speaker 2: there is a balancing act. Left wingers going insane. We've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of different clips for you that we

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Speaker 2: will have fun with. But Buck, we begin with your

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Speaker 2: two favorite people in all of media. Joe Scarborough and

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Speaker 2: Mika Perzinski remain under fire over their decision to go

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Speaker 2: and have a meal with Donald Trump on Friday, and

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Speaker 2: I actually think it all made sense yesterday afternoon when

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Speaker 2: Journal saying that Comcast now intends to spin off MSNBC

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Speaker 2: and other of their cable assets. So let me just

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Speaker 2: kind of tell you what happened here on Friday. I

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Speaker 2: believe Meek and Joe, at the behest potentially of their

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Speaker 2: bosses or certainly not being discouraged from the decision, went

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Speaker 2: tomorrow Lago bent the knee to Donald Trump and basically said, Hey, MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: I think they were delivering a message. MSNBC is going

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Speaker 2: to play nice with you in the early days of

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Speaker 2: your administration. The idea that you are hitler is going

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Speaker 2: to be cast aside. Congratulations on your win again. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna kiss the ring, We're gonna bend the knee. Monday,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that was strange. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: stranger still, Buck on Monday, as we talked about on

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Speaker 2: this program. When Meek n Joe decided to tell their

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Speaker 2: audience that they had gone to see Trump. News didn't

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Speaker 2: leak on Saturday or Sunday or Friday. There are lots

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Speaker 2: of people going to see Trump. I saw him on Thursday. Like,

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Speaker 2: there isn't if you don't post a photo and you

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Speaker 2: don't tweet about it or whatever else, there's no real story.

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Speaker 2: I don't think going to come out. But meeken Joe

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Speaker 2: felt compelled to discuss their meeting with Donald Trump Tuesday afternoon. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I was like, it all makes sense now, win the

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Speaker 2: news from the Wall Street Journal broke. So Friday you

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Speaker 2: apologize Ben the Nee to Trump. Monday you tell your

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Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough awkwardly saying, hey, we could get fired at

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Speaker 2: any point to discuss that Comcast is done within the MSNBC. Listen,

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Speaker 3: You know it drives at the top, said, oh, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could be completely wrong. We could all

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Speaker 2: it has happens. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, though, what they're doing is what

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Speaker 3: other media firms are doing. You spin off the cable

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Speaker 3: channels which seven years ago were making a ton of money.

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Speaker 3: Now they've got to figure out how to make them profitable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a big story, and I do

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Speaker 2: But Buck, this ties everything together. When you and I

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Speaker 1: Here, I don't know what entities like MSNBC or Morning

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Speaker 1: but we never want to tell you anything that is untrue,

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Speaker 2: I just saw this on X Yeah. We could have

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Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly the choice. Clay, Yeah, Kamala is overwhelming me, Like

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Speaker 2: So here's one thing I would say. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: which they do already. But I mean at least Comcast

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Speaker 1: Gonna throw carry on the bus. I watch a lot

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Speaker 2: So they're not selling that company. But my point is,

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Speaker 2: My concern is that somebody like George Soros, a billionaire

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we've got can I ask.

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Speaker 1: You've already had this consolidation occurring for a while. HLN

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Speaker 2: They basically did a way for people who don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back and play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. The crazy town is

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Speaker 1: We should legitimately send him a care package of like

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Speaker 5: Joe Mika didn't say much about it today, but according

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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what the specific concern Joe Amika

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Speaker 7: Mean, isn't it possible too that they're just two people

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Speaker 8: Listen, already working on foreign passport where a completely different name.

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Speaker 2: Would you just watch a reality television show of Michael

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Speaker 2: have to have a level of narcissism that is off

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Speaker 2: the charts for Trump to be elected and for your

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Speaker 2: first thought to be He's gonna put me in prison.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was already president. He hasn't put anybody

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Speaker 2: in prison. Like, why would he suddenly decide, Hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: I gotta go get the morning show host on MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: They can no longer talk to the seven hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: people who watch their show. They're too much of a

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Speaker 2: public threat. They've got to be in prison.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know, it's amazing Donald Trump, they actually did

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Speaker 1: try to lock him up. I mean, they really did

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Speaker 1: prosecute him for nonsense. And now they're thing is what if.

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Speaker 2: He decides to prosecute us for nonsense?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, your idea of a Michael Cohen show, like,

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Speaker 1: I really, you know what the heck out of that?

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Speaker 2: You know, all, what is the funniest country that Michael

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Speaker 2: Cohen could flee to for purposes? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Cohen, Michael Cohen sneaking into North Korea?

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Speaker 1: Like at least Trump can't get me here. At least

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Speaker 1: that will be safe to.

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Speaker 2: Jogon might turn Michael Cohen back over to Trump because

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Speaker 2: I think they have a pretty good relationship.

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Speaker 1: Like it's true. I think Rocketman may say, we'll give

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Speaker 1: you back Michael. It's gonna be like, hey, Trump, here's

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen back. What is the funniest non extraditable country.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it has to be a felony, right,

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy to use a fake name?

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Speaker 2: And get a foreign passport. That has to be something

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Speaker 2: that you could actually go to prison for. So going

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Speaker 2: on MSNBC and saying you're going to do that doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem very smart from a covert fleeing the country move.

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Speaker 2: Like if he did he had gone on and been like, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know they got me on a lot of this

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Speaker 2: baby oil stuff. I'm in real trouble. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: a fake passport and I'm gonna go to somebody do

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Speaker 2: research on the list of non extraditable countries.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can I can name? I mean, I I could. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you want to know some of them? You got?

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Speaker 2: Cuba is all there, right, Cuba, Cuba might be the

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Speaker 2: best to go.

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Speaker 1: That's you closest. So that's actually one that people have

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Speaker 1: made it to when they want it. If you don't

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Speaker 1: ever want to be arrested in the Cuban government's not

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Speaker 1: gonna arrest If you make it to Cuba, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get you're not gonna get deported or you're not going

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Speaker 1: to get to extradited. But you're gonna be in Cuba

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Speaker 1: and hope that they're treating you well. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 1: North Korea, Russia, China and Gola. I don't think Lebanon

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Speaker 1: has an extradition treaty with the United States.

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Speaker 2: You know that's right, because what's the guy's name who

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Speaker 2: fled and was formerly like the huge auto executive that

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Speaker 2: got smuggled out of Japan. He got into into be Root, right,

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Speaker 2: and he's been able to stay there. Yeah, so Lebanon's

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Speaker 2: on the list.

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Speaker 1: I mean the countries overwhelmingly that are on that list

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Speaker 1: are countries you'd be like, I don't want to live there.

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Speaker 2: What is the funniest country on the list that we

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Speaker 2: could get Michael Cohen to go to and do a

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Speaker 2: reality television show about it? All right, I'm looking up

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Speaker 2: right now, I mean there are like if you're looking,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how long he'd last in Somalia,

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Speaker 2: Like that would be kind of a survival show for him,

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Speaker 2: that Michael Cohen as a Somali pilot Pirate would be

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Speaker 2: a show I would watch. I'm the Captain now, I

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Speaker 2: would be all in on that.

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Speaker 1: Vietnam. Vietnam is actually really actually really enjoyed my time

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Speaker 1: in Vietnam when I visited. So that's a good that's

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Speaker 1: a good place to go. The Central African Republic. I

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Speaker 1: think they've been through decades of like the worst war, famine, disease,

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Speaker 1: and Huang Guy Bon.

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Speaker 2: Guy Cohen and Bon Guy would be a heck of

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Speaker 2: a look. I don't imagine there's a lot of white

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Speaker 2: Americans that are choosing to live in in in Bon guys.

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Speaker 2: Here are some of the ones. Some of the Iran

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Speaker 2: would be amazing, Michael Cohen, and Iran would be like

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Speaker 2: showing up with the Ayatola chillin.

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Speaker 1: I can you imagine the zooms I have converted to Islam.

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Speaker 1: It is a beautiful religion. I am now an Iranian citizen.

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen. Uh yeah, good luck with that one too.

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Speaker 1: That'd be a lot of fun to Americans. Doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like that would be a really smart move. But maybe

513
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Speaker 1: maybe he would be a great fit thing. Afghanistan. Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: with a Taliban in charge. Mind you like, there's no

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Speaker 1: more you know, it's not like the Northern Alliance is

516
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Speaker 1: gonna keep you safe in the North anymore. Yikes. Not good,

517
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Speaker 1: not a fun, not a fun place to be. So

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Speaker 1: there's a I mean, the list is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm I'm all in. I encourage

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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen to commit a felony, get an illegal passport,

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Speaker 2: change with with a fake name, and then I want

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Speaker 2: him to go to Iran. I want him to go

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Speaker 2: to uh Cambodia. I want him to go to one

524
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Speaker 2: of these countries that I have no idea about. And

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Speaker 2: I would watch a reality television show about Michael Cohen

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Speaker 2: starting his life back over there. Sure he has a

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Speaker 2: lot of marketable skills. Smally pirate Michael Cohen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I I would try that out. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: this guy was. It's amazing too.

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Speaker 1: He was Trump's lawyer for so many years, and now

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Speaker 1: he's talking about fleeing the country and having to get

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Speaker 1: a passport, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Buck he's bragging about that has to again, it has

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Speaker 2: to be a felony to get a foreign passport under

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Speaker 2: a different name, Like that can't be legal. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you if I told you, like you your brother,

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Speaker 2: you've got a single brother. If your brother was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I got a new girlfriend and you're like, what does

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Speaker 2: she do? Well, I'm not really sure, but she has

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Speaker 2: a foreign passport in a different name, you'd be like,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe you could pride somebody else to date

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Speaker 2: it's not a great choice.

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Speaker 1: Problem for sure. Yeah. I look, Michael Cohen is not

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Speaker 1: leaving the country. It's absurd.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I mentioned that Ava Longoria, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and I think we mentioned on the show that

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Speaker 1: she actually is. She's already been out so she lives

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Speaker 1: in like Madrid, and you know, she lives in fancy

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Speaker 1: places around the world already, So it's not like she's

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Speaker 1: giving up her life in America. She already spends most

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Speaker 1: of the year abroad, So that wasn't some big change.

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Speaker 1: But she's saying, oh, yeah, I'm going to live abroad. Also,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just so silly, isn't it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Like, what are I really even talking about?

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Speaker 1: What do they think is going to happen to them?

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Speaker 1: There's bigger there's bigger fish to fry. I do give

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Speaker 1: them credit.

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Speaker 2: At least if you say, if somebody wins an election

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Speaker 2: in either direction that you are leaving the country, you

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Speaker 2: should have to leave the country, because ninety nine percent

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Speaker 2: of the people who say if Trump wins, I'm leaving

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Speaker 2: the country never leave. At least, if you're gonna make

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Speaker 2: that statement, follow up with it when the election actually

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Speaker 2: happens and doesn't go the direction that you want it

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Speaker 2: Buck God. What did to make sure? I mentioned this

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Speaker 2: because I think we discussed it on the program back

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Speaker 2: does that matter? Okay, some of you might fly Spirit Airlines.

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Speaker 2: It's the holidays. They say that they're going to have

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Speaker 2: They tried to merge with Jet Blue and Team correct

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I believe it was Jet Blue

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Speaker 2: that they were merging with, and if you were a

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Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines shareholder, you stood to make a lot of

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Speaker 2: money over that merger. A federal judge looked at that

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Speaker 2: merger said this will hurt consumers, it will create antitrust

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Speaker 2: And now Spirit Airlines has gone bankrupt and every shareholder

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Speaker 2: has been completely wiped out. In other words, that judge

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Speaker 2: now because he said the merger can't happen. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: how does that federal judge get to keep his job.

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Speaker 2: We let one dude who nobody elected, sit and look

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Speaker 2: and now there is absolutely nothing that happens to him

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Speaker 2: at all. I don't know how you could be more

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Speaker 2: wrong than to say, hey, consumers are not going to

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Speaker 2: benefit if this merger happens. Well, now the entire company

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Speaker 2: is bankrupt. Why are there no consequences when people get

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Speaker 2: things objectively wrong? Shouldn't something happen to this guy like

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Speaker 1: Couldn't right, judge. I don't know if this would be

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Speaker 2: But I mean for multi billion dollars of shareholder equity

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Speaker 2: Use Code Radio. Clay Travis here, Happy Thanksgiving from all

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Speaker 2: of us at the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: out with us on this fabulous Wednesday across the nation

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Speaker 2: as many people get ready, by the way, to celebrate

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving coming up next week. We're about eight days away,

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Speaker 2: I think exactly from Thanksgiving. I know many of you

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Speaker 2: are going to be starting your travels, and certainly we'd

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Speaker 2: I know my family is going to start traveling on Friday,

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Speaker 2: parts of it to meet up all over the country.

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Speaker 2: And I imagine a lot of you are as well.

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Speaker 2: country or indeed around the world. I wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure we hit this because it's an awful story, but

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Speaker 2: I do think it's important because for many people, the

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Speaker 2: failures of the Biden administration at the border have unfortunately

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Speaker 2: led to violence all over the country. Illegal immigrants have

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Speaker 2: committed acts of violence against innocent American citizens and nowhere

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Speaker 2: to my knowledge, has gotten more attention than the murder

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Speaker 2: of Lake and Riley in the Athens area of Georgia,

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Speaker 2: where I was over the weekend. It remains a huge

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Speaker 2: and the criminal trial of her killer, and it is

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Speaker 2: now you can say directly her killer has ended and

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Speaker 2: he has been convicted of murder and will spend the

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Speaker 2: rest of his life in prison. Now we will talk

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Speaker 2: about that in a moment, but in the meantime, I

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Speaker 2: wanted all of you to be able to hear because

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Speaker 2: we have talked a lot. Again Buck they try to say, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens do,

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Speaker 2: and First of all, I don't know that I buy

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Speaker 2: that when you actually break it down, because many illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants are young men, and young men overwhelmingly commit most

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Speaker 2: violent acts. So it stands to reason that if the

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Speaker 2: majority of illegal immigrants are young men, actually young men,

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Speaker 2: whether they're illegal or legal, commit the vast majority of

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Speaker 2: violent crimes. So I'm not sure i'd buy the statistic

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Speaker 2: as it is reported. But here's the deal. It should

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Speaker 2: be zero because we should not have illegal immigration in

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Speaker 2: this country, So any crime that occurs that is result

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Speaker 2: of an illegal immigrant illegally entering this country should never

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Speaker 2: be allowed to occur. And before we play the result,

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Speaker 2: I want to read this because this was well said,

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Speaker 2: I thought distilling exactly what happened. Bill Malujin shared this

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Speaker 2: about exactly what happened with the Lake and Riley case

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Speaker 2: and why it was such a failure on so many

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Speaker 2: different levels that this was ever allowed to happen at all.

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Speaker 2: Here's how many ways that the government failed. Her killer

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Speaker 2: was in federal custody after crossing the border illegally. Released,

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Speaker 2: he was released again in the sanctuary city of New

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Speaker 2: York City after an arrest ice was not notified about

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Speaker 2: that arrest. New York City then gave him a taxpayer

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Speaker 2: funded flight to Georgia. According to the testimony of one

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Speaker 2: of his roommates. Again, all of that, multiple failures that

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Speaker 2: led to the murder of a completely innocent woman out

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Speaker 2: for a jog in Athens, Georgia. And this is what

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Speaker 2: it just sounded like when the verdict was read.

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Speaker 9: Count one malice murder. I send you to life without

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Speaker 9: the possibility to parole. Count two will be vacated as

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Speaker 9: a matter of operation of law. Count three vacated by

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Speaker 9: operation of law. Count four vaca co operation of law.

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Speaker 9: Count five life in prison, consecutive to Count one. Count

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Speaker 9: six twenty years to serve consecutive to Count five. Count

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Speaker 9: seven will merge with Count one, Count eight.

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Speaker 2: I think we can stop the reading, but I wanted

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Speaker 2: you to hear what was going on in that courtroom. Buck.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Not only as Lake and Riley, she

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Speaker 2: should still be alive and I can't even imagine what

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Speaker 2: her family is going through. But she is emblematic of

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Speaker 2: something that is happening in your state, in your city

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Speaker 2: because of theres of border security. But in addition to

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Speaker 2: all those failures, now American taxpayers have to pay for

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Speaker 2: this guy to spend the rest of his life in

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Speaker 2: a Georgia prison sale. So this is in no way

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Speaker 2: actual justice, in in in in any kind of use

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Speaker 2: of the word justice in my mind, because we continued

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Speaker 2: to have to pay the price of his illegal actions

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Speaker 2: to keep him alive in our prisons.

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Speaker 1: I have to wonder why he can't be executed expeditiously

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Speaker 1: as a matter of as a matter of law here,

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Speaker 1: I guess they've just decided in this case. Look, I

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Speaker 1: understand the death penalty is a controversial thing for some

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Speaker 1: people or for a lot of people. But if there's

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Speaker 1: ever a case that seems to be a clear indicator

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Speaker 1: of when the death penalty should be applied, you would

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Speaker 1: think this would this would meet that standard I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about just morally. It put aside the counts and specifics

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Speaker 1: of the statutes. Here, we're failing people like Lake and

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Speaker 1: Riley and her family, meaning the United States, the United

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Speaker 1: States government, the judicial system, immigration system. This is not

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Speaker 1: somebody snuck across the border. We couldn't know and then

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Speaker 1: they did a horrible thing. This is authorities had this

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Speaker 1: guy in custody multiple times and decided to let him

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Speaker 1: out of custody, and he has now gone on to

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Speaker 1: commit a heinous rape and murder. This is exactly why

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Speaker 1: the American people who are at least paying attention and

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Speaker 1: living in reality are so outraged about the wide open

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Speaker 1: Biden border. Give credit to all of those who have

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Speaker 1: been pointing out, including Dan Crenshaw of Congresson from Texas

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Speaker 1: spreading about how why do we all know what trend

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Speaker 1: Aragua is now? Congresson Crenshaw's correct, we all know what

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Speaker 1: trend to Aragua is now, which is a ultra violent

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Speaker 1: Latin American gang, because the terrible stuff that they're doing

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Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of news coverage. And it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of illegals who have come into the country and

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Speaker 1: are raping and murdering and you know, stealing and doing

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Speaker 1: all the things that they shouldn't be doing. They should

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Speaker 1: never be allowed to be doing in the first place,

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Speaker 1: because they shouldn't even be here in the country. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's this pattern, and you see this the

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Speaker 1: people that say, especially the Democrats, who don't want us

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Speaker 1: to be able to arm ourselves or defend ourselves, which well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can never live again living in a

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Speaker 1: I could never go back to a state I just

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Speaker 1: couldn't where they say, sorry, you're disarmed, Sorry you are

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Speaker 1: at the whim of the state. Can't do it, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it, won't allow You know, I have to defend

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Speaker 1: I have a total mind change or you know, sort

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Speaker 1: in a blue state. Going forward, look.

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Speaker 2: What happened in New York.

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Speaker 1: You had three people stabbed by some maniac running around

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Speaker 1: with a knife, two of them killed the middle of

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Speaker 1: the day from what I if I remember correctly, running

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Speaker 1: across Midtown Manhattan.

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Speaker 2: The guy had been arrested eight times.

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Speaker 1: He's a violent, crazy, lunatic who's been arrested by police

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Speaker 1: eight times and is still on the street and has

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Speaker 1: now murdered two people. Those two families now have to

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Speaker 1: bear that horrible pain of losing a family member to

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Speaker 1: a completely random, hatous crime. Lake and Riley's family members

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Speaker 1: have to bear that horrible pain that birded of their

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Speaker 1: little girl murdered by this monster. And it never should

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Speaker 1: have happened because the authorities had the ability to stop

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Speaker 1: it and chose not to because the Democrat Party and

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Speaker 1: the corporate Democrat media and the left in this country

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Speaker 1: and the open borders maniacs have decided that being an

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Speaker 1: illegal is some kind of special status in this country.

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Speaker 1: You can not only break our laws by coming here,

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Speaker 1: you can can continue to break our laws. And we

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Speaker 1: don't want to seem racist, we don't want to seem xenophobics.

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Speaker 1: So you get to stay until you finally do something

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Speaker 1: so bad even MSNBC has to say, I guess we.

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Speaker 2: Should lock that guy up. This is going to be tough,

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Speaker 2: but I want you guys to hear it. This was

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Speaker 2: the stepfather of Lake and Riley, twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: After she was murdered, raped by an illegal immigrant. They

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Speaker 2: found her diary, her journal that she kept, and he

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Speaker 2: read in the courtroom one of the final diary entries

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Speaker 2: that she would ever do of her entire life. He

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Speaker 2: read that in the courtroom. We have that for you

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Speaker 2: right now. If you have a daughter, you have a granddaughter,

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Speaker 2: you have someone that you care about that could have

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Speaker 2: been Lake and Riley. Listen to what she wanted to

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Speaker 2: do with the rest of her life.

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Speaker 6: To my future husband. I want you to know that

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking about you, and I'm working every day to

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Speaker 6: become the best wife I can be, working through my

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Speaker 6: current relationships to best prepared me for hours and our kids.

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Speaker 6: One day, I'm focusing on God and what he defines

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Speaker 6: a faithful Christian life and so that I can best

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Speaker 6: embody those characteristics. I pray that you know that is

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Speaker 6: with my full faith and trust in God, that I

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Speaker 6: know this relationship has been handcrafted by Him. I pray

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Speaker 6: that we continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize Him in

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Speaker 6: every aspect of our lives, and raise our family our

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Speaker 6: future family, to be God fearing Christians as well. I

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Speaker 6: pray God is the center of our relationship. It is

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Speaker 6: as it is a gift from Him. I thank Him

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Speaker 6: for you before I even know you, and can't wait

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Speaker 6: to love you in the best way I know how

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Speaker 6: for the rest of our lives. I pray you know

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Speaker 6: and feel the importance of my love and hopes for

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Speaker 6: our relationship. No matter what challenges we face. I pray

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Speaker 6: that our trust in God and love from one another

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Speaker 6: overrules the obstacle. May our relationship last forever. Your future wife.

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Speaker 2: Lacoln Okay, I mean that is hard to listen to.

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Speaker 2: That is John Phillips, the stepdad of Lake and Riley,

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Speaker 2: reading one of her final injuries. For anybody who just

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Speaker 2: heard that, how in the world are there no consequences

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Speaker 2: for the people that allowed this to happen. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I mean it is indefensible to me, Buck that we

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Speaker 2: have allowed this to occur. And Lake and Riley is

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Speaker 2: not alone. There are thousands of innocent people. You just

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Speaker 2: heard what she wanted to do with the rest of

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Speaker 2: her life, that this country failed and their families are

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Speaker 2: going to be suffering for the rest of their lives

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Speaker 2: because of the Biden Kamala administration and what they allowed

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 1: The open borders zealots, and that is now the entirety

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party and the Democrat apparatus. They've changed nothing, Clay.

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Speaker 1: They still want illegals who are supposed to be deported

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Speaker 1: because of additional crimes to not be deported. Look at

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Speaker 1: how they're fighting against the incoming Trump administrations plans on

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Speaker 1: this already. Los Angeles is declaring itself, you know, an

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Speaker 1: even more sanctuary city than it was before, which I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how that's possible. They don't think. Here's

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Speaker 1: the fundamental thing everyone has to understand. This happens Lake

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Speaker 1: and Riley. A terrible case like this happens, and the

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Speaker 1: media covers it, and then the Democrats go back to

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Speaker 1: pushing for exactly the same policies that led to her death,

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Speaker 1: rape and murder. They do not change, They do not care.

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Speaker 1: They think that we need third world illegals piling into

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Speaker 1: this place by the millions, because that's what America deserves,

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Speaker 1: because that's the America they want to live in. And

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Speaker 1: if people have to be raped and murdered and killed

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Speaker 1: by some of them who we know are criminals, who

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Speaker 1: we know shouldn't be here at all, that is the

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Speaker 1: cost that Democrats are willing to pay in order to

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Speaker 1: make America a more multicultural, multi ethnic state. That is

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Speaker 1: the fundamental truth of their policy on immigration. This is

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Speaker 1: the cost that they choose to bear. Everything's remember that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the third victim was actually killed in

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Speaker 1: that New York City stabbing was a mother of a

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Speaker 1: nine year old. A mom of a nine year old

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Speaker 1: just died in the hospital of her wounds. So three

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Speaker 1: people stabbed to death by somebody that the NYPD had

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Speaker 1: in their custody eight times. Nobody thought we should do

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Speaker 1: anything about this guy. Nobody thought he should be committed.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me it wasn't obvious that he was

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Speaker 1: a maniac who was a threat to people on the street.

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Speaker 1: You get arrested eight times, you don't serve any real

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Speaker 1: time in prison. Hey, this is the state is failing people.

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Speaker 1: And this is why when a lot of people see

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Speaker 1: the Daniel Penn case in New York and they say,

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Speaker 1: and now we punish men who step up when the

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Speaker 1: state fails to defend people, to defend women, to defend

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Speaker 1: children from maniacs that the state chooses not to defend

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Speaker 1: us from. We're going to punish that guy. That's Alvin

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Speaker 1: Bragg's New York City. Your tax dollars got this guy

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Speaker 1: to New York City. Your tax dollars put this rapist

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Speaker 1: and a murderer on a plane to Georgia, and now

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Speaker 1: your tax dollars are going to keep him alive for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his life.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The fact that there are no consequences for

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Speaker 2: everyone who opened the southern border May yorkas should be

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Speaker 2: imprisoned for the rest of his life honestly, and I

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Speaker 2: know he's acting on the behest of Biden and Kamala,

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Speaker 2: But if you're Lake and Riley's family, and again there

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Speaker 2: are Lake and Riley's in every state and every city

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Speaker 1: And what's the worst crime Clay Biden's DHS intentionally allowing

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Speaker 1: people to defraud the United States government and come into

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Speaker 1: the country by the millions, knowing that's exactly what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and knowing that people are going to be raped and

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Speaker 1: murdered by some of those illegals. Or listing a expense

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, one of these things was prosecuted and

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Speaker 2: And I know that's awful, awful story, But I wanted

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