Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Overcover podcast. You guys, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for choosing to be here. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Jennica Lopez. I'm just very excited for this specific guest
Speaker 1: because she has brought so many good things to my
Speaker 1: life and her story has impacted me.
Speaker 2: And I know.
Speaker 1: She is not the only one in the world that
Speaker 1: is probably going through this. Maybe hers is just her
Speaker 1: situation a little bit different. But anyways, Morgan Hardman, gorgeous, gorgeous,
Speaker 1: gorgeous girl.
Speaker 2: I don't know how do we meet.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how we met, but I just
Speaker 1: remember loving you since the moment I met you.
Speaker 3: You were literally one of my favorite people in the
Speaker 3: whole world. I mean that from the bottom of my heart,
Speaker 3: and that's saying a lot coming from me. We actually
Speaker 3: met in my living room. We did now brought you
Speaker 3: and it was all business.
Speaker 1: It was yes, we were talking about business, and then
Speaker 1: we just started having a personal relationship from them. What
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know is that.
Speaker 2: You are the reason why I found my biological father.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give a little short story about that. Morgan.
Speaker 1: Morgan was in the same situation as me, and she
Speaker 1: pushed me and she also offered, and she was also
Speaker 1: just available and was that listening ear when I felt
Speaker 1: like no one understood me and Morgan, when I had
Speaker 1: met her, she kind of just explained everything to me
Speaker 1: and we just connected, and I think that's why we
Speaker 1: love each other so much. So she is one of them.
Speaker 1: She is the reason why I found my biological father
Speaker 1: and helped me through that process. She is also why
Speaker 1: I know my realtor and why I'm also in this
Speaker 1: house because without her, without Shanty Like, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: known or been in this position.
Speaker 2: So thank you, I love you.
Speaker 1: One of the main reasons why I wanted you to
Speaker 1: come on the podcast is because I obviously know a
Speaker 1: lot of your story and there's probably still things that
Speaker 1: I don't know about because you kind of disappeared. But
Speaker 1: I kind of want to give you know insight, and
Speaker 1: you know, thank you because I know it's not going
Speaker 1: to be very easy, but it's healed me and your
Speaker 1: strength and your commitment to your family, to God and
Speaker 1: who you are as a person is very inspiring and
Speaker 1: I want to be able to share that and obviously
Speaker 1: with your own time and your own space, but I
Speaker 1: do want to give the floor about who is Morgan Hardman,
Speaker 1: Who was she? What does she do?
Speaker 2: And who? Yeah, how did you come to where you
Speaker 2: are today?
Speaker 3: So if I take it back, if I go back
Speaker 3: a little bit, I grew up in foster care.
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know.
Speaker 3: But like a big part of my story that I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid to walk in my truth anymore about is.
Speaker 4: What a lot of people don't know.
Speaker 3: And a big part of my story that I've actually
Speaker 3: never shared yet, it's actually going to be in my book,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to share with you because you are
Speaker 3: family to me, is a lot of people don't know
Speaker 3: that I don't know how to read and I don't
Speaker 3: know how to spell, and so for that reason alone,
Speaker 3: like I've always had a challenge in life.
Speaker 4: Just being able to get by. And so.
Speaker 3: For most of my life, I was a personal assistant
Speaker 3: to Ray J A lot of you guys know that,
Speaker 3: and I worked with a lot of other celebrities. I
Speaker 3: was an assistant director on set. I've been a PA
Speaker 3: on set, I've dabbed into the medical field. I've did
Speaker 3: a little bit of everything, and then obviously recently I've
Speaker 3: been blessed to be a part of a phenomenal industry,
Speaker 3: which is network marketing, which is where I landed. Like
Speaker 3: most of my success, I didn't need to know how
Speaker 3: to read or spell to be successful in this actual industry,
Speaker 3: and so I dominated that, but.
Speaker 4: Was secretly dying on the inside. You know.
Speaker 3: I did a season eleven hip hop that wasn't really
Speaker 3: my thing. You know, the television and the comments, I'm
Speaker 3: one who reads them.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I tried so hard not to.
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like that's the surface level of like,
Speaker 1: how do okay? So let's go into I think what
Speaker 1: we connect most on is obviously our fathers and all that.
Speaker 1: That situation for you, what was that like for you?
Speaker 1: What did you go through with that?
Speaker 3: So for me, you know, I said that I was.
Speaker 3: I grew up in foster homes and group homes. So
Speaker 3: my mom was a drug addict and she was also
Speaker 3: a prostitute. And I didn't know my father, And obviously
Speaker 3: my mom had a lot of men in and out
Speaker 3: of the house. And one day she'll say this was
Speaker 3: your dad. The next day she'll say, oh, that's your dad.
Speaker 3: And then and when she gets upset with me, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, your dadd didn't want you. He left when
Speaker 3: he found out I was pregnant with you, just like
Speaker 3: just so much just evilness, you know. And I always
Speaker 3: felt like I needed to know and I always wanted
Speaker 3: to know who was my father. And when I was
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, I ended up finding him and he
Speaker 3: was there with open arms, like it was so opposite
Speaker 3: of what my mother told me he was, and he
Speaker 3: wanted to just embrace and love me, but.
Speaker 4: I was in full reject mode.
Speaker 3: It was like I thought that's what I wanted, and
Speaker 3: I thought that I needed to fill that void at
Speaker 3: the time, but I was still skeptical. And the reason
Speaker 3: I was so skeptical was because I was told every
Speaker 3: man that walked through the door with my dad. So
Speaker 3: I was very serious about wanting a paternity test, and
Speaker 3: he didn't want to give me one. And so for
Speaker 3: years I would be like, why, why don't you want
Speaker 3: to get like a child support you, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And to this day, I don't know why
Speaker 3: he wouldn't give me one, but I actually I cut
Speaker 3: him off for a while and I just it didn't
Speaker 3: exist to me still for years. And finally years later,
Speaker 3: like right around the time I got married, he was
Speaker 3: like listen, baby girl, if you wanted a paternity test,
Speaker 3: I'll give you one. I'll give you a paternity test,
Speaker 3: but you're my daughter, no matter what, no matter what
Speaker 3: any paperwork says. And that's what he's always said to me,
Speaker 3: you know. But I had to make him understand that's fine,
Speaker 3: but if my search isn't over, I need to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Get that, get any of them right. And so it
Speaker 3: wasn't anything personal to him. It's just my mom was
Speaker 3: a prostitute.
Speaker 2: You didn't know where to look or where to go.
Speaker 3: And so he his name was the name that was
Speaker 3: on my birthativiate. So thank god she didn't know that
Speaker 3: information right, so she had it right. And I've still
Speaker 3: to this day never got a paternity test. But what
Speaker 3: I did do was I went on ancestry, kind of
Speaker 3: like what we did with you, and I found people
Speaker 3: on there that were related to him. Because I still
Speaker 3: wasn't okay with not having that paternity test, but I
Speaker 3: did find people on there that had the same DNA
Speaker 3: as him, so then I was at ease. And since then,
Speaker 3: I've been okay with calling him dad. I've been okay
Speaker 3: with building a relationship with him, understanding that I had
Speaker 3: to undo all the lies my mom told me about
Speaker 3: him who he was, because that's so not who he is.
Speaker 3: He is such a great man of God, and he's
Speaker 3: always and always.
Speaker 4: Will pray for me.
Speaker 3: He's been praying for me even he said he always
Speaker 3: felt like he had a daughter out.
Speaker 4: There, he just never knew where.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he didn't know.
Speaker 4: No, he had no clue. I existed, no clue.
Speaker 3: But from the moment we found him, which I found
Speaker 3: him through a lady named doctor Lois.
Speaker 4: She could track anybody down.
Speaker 3: And from the moment I met him, he said he
Speaker 3: always knew he had a daughter out there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Did that? I packed your relationship with your mom and like,
Speaker 1: because for me it was different because my mom wasn't
Speaker 1: here anymore, you know, so I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: manage that.
Speaker 2: But how was it, you know obviously, Like.
Speaker 4: It wasn't different. My mom was going. My mom died
Speaker 4: when I was fifteen. You're right, I'm sorry, so I
Speaker 4: didn't get a chance to.
Speaker 2: Ask the questions, be mad at her. My mom died
Speaker 2: when I was fifteen two. I totally forgot about them.
Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to like, yeah, there was
Speaker 3: just so many lies told that, you know, you never
Speaker 3: get the answer to it. You know, you you can search,
Speaker 3: you can talk to people that knew them, you can
Speaker 3: try and understand why.
Speaker 2: But you're just never going to get that fulfillment.
Speaker 3: You're not and the only thing that could fulfill you
Speaker 3: in take that pain away as the presence of God
Speaker 3: is what I found.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, definitely sow.
Speaker 1: But Okay, so now that you have a relationship, and
Speaker 1: I'm asking like generally because like we've never really gotten
Speaker 1: this far. For me, it's still difficult to have that
Speaker 1: relationship because I think just the way I grew up
Speaker 1: and obviously you've seen and you know, like the walls
Speaker 1: you're precious are built high.
Speaker 3: You're precious to people, and you're you're so good, like
Speaker 3: you're good, you are goodness, like if there is a
Speaker 3: your goodness and you have to be protected, Jenica, because.
Speaker 1: And that's where I feel like it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to let that wall down. And especially because even when
Speaker 1: I went to your house the first time, like we
Speaker 1: were both like bumping heads or like just walls, you know,
Speaker 1: and like you could feel it, you know, when like
Speaker 1: there's walls built between people, Like Okay, how did you
Speaker 1: let that wall come down for your dad.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like I started to see more people
Speaker 3: with their fathers and see so many people without them,
Speaker 3: and I felt like, I still have a living parent,
Speaker 3: and I want to be there. I want to be
Speaker 3: in his life. I want to be in photos. I
Speaker 3: want I want my kids to know who he is.
Speaker 3: I don't have family like that. I made my own family.
Speaker 3: I always have, you know. It's always just been me
Speaker 3: and my brothers. And so anyone you hear me say, oh,
Speaker 3: that's my cousin, that's my They're not not by blood, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, they're your family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you're my family. And I made my
Speaker 3: own family my entire life. I've always done that, and
Speaker 3: so this was actually someone who was a part of
Speaker 3: my DNA, and it meant something to me just to
Speaker 3: make it right, Like I hear these songs by all
Speaker 3: these people about their father and dance with my father
Speaker 3: and all these and I never had that, you know.
Speaker 3: And I remember as a little girl, I always just
Speaker 3: wanted a dad. So you have one, now, why why
Speaker 3: not embrace him? And he's good? He's goodness, Like, he's
Speaker 3: a good person too. So what am I rejecting, still
Speaker 3: holding on to all those memories and all those thoughts
Speaker 3: that my mom put in my head of my father
Speaker 3: that are so untrue. And so I just want love
Speaker 3: in my life right now, and I want someone who
Speaker 3: has authority to pray over me in my life.
Speaker 4: And he has authority. Yeah, it's my father, you know.
Speaker 2: I think that's the beautiful part though.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, we're gonna go on a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Are you guys?
Speaker 1: Welcome back? And I think that's where my personal relationship
Speaker 1: with my father kind of just like goes like it's.
Speaker 4: Do you guys talk at all?
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's more hey, how are you?
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 3: There's no but see you have to understand to you
Speaker 3: come from a way different.
Speaker 1: World and that's totally fine, and which is what I
Speaker 1: this year. It was like he was very vulnerable and
Speaker 1: asked me like are you gonna work on having a
Speaker 1: relationship with me or like what is it? And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't have like I can. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try. And I made that commitment to God, like
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, God, like, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: my best. I'm gonna do what I can, but I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna push myself. I'm gonna respect my my boundaries
Speaker 1: and be there as much as I can for you know,
Speaker 1: and whatever relationship this is going to be, it's gonna
Speaker 1: come from God.
Speaker 3: My best advice to you on that is, go at
Speaker 3: your pacete, go at your pace. Don't don't rush what
Speaker 3: you're not comfortable being in because this is very new
Speaker 3: for you. You know what I'm saying. And you are your
Speaker 3: entire life. You thought one person was your father. You
Speaker 3: have memories with this person, you were raised, you until
Speaker 3: because he passed away, right, and so for almost a day, okay,
Speaker 3: you thought both your parents were deceased. And so it's
Speaker 3: hard to just turn around and love a stranger.
Speaker 4: It's so hard.
Speaker 3: I know that because I could honestly say I just
Speaker 3: started telling my dad.
Speaker 4: I loved him about it a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3: I never even said that's so scary. I never even
Speaker 3: said the word dad. I would just be like, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: like his name in my phone was Luther because that's
Speaker 3: his name, and I just changed it to my dad that.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, and people think like it's not
Speaker 3: It's such a big deal. It's such a big deal
Speaker 3: because it's like you've gone your entire life without this person,
Speaker 3: and then you're told this is your dad and then
Speaker 3: now you're supposed to just hit it off from the gate. No,
Speaker 3: you got to learn this person, know that.
Speaker 4: Check the motive. Is there a motive?
Speaker 3: I remember at one point, and he's probably gonna see this,
Speaker 3: but I remember at one point he made a comment
Speaker 3: that that didn't sit well with me, and I got
Speaker 3: scared of him for a while.
Speaker 4: And then there was a time when.
Speaker 3: I was on Love and Hip Hop and he was like,
Speaker 3: you need to change your last name to Craven, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just met you.
Speaker 4: I changed my last name to Craven. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And those things pushed me further away because I felt
Speaker 3: there was a motive. But then when I because my
Speaker 3: heart has always been hardened because how hurt I've been
Speaker 3: my entire life, and so when I started to get
Speaker 3: more filled with God and I started to seek God more,
Speaker 3: it started to soften.
Speaker 4: It started to soften more.
Speaker 1: Do you think at least for me, when I think
Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, I feel like I would have
Speaker 1: done better.
Speaker 2: I think, what fucked me up?
Speaker 1: Was that I found out as an adult.
Speaker 2: I did too, I was eighteen exactly.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if maybe if I found out if I
Speaker 1: was when I was sixteen or fifteen, I feel like
Speaker 1: it would be a lot different.
Speaker 2: Do you think or what do you like?
Speaker 1: Do you do you?
Speaker 4: Honestly, this is an honest question. I know this isn't
Speaker 4: my show.
Speaker 2: Go no, go for it.
Speaker 4: But do you feel a part of you.
Speaker 3: Is not wanting a relationship with him because you don't
Speaker 3: want to hurt your father that's in heaven.
Speaker 1: No. I feel like that last year I did, and
Speaker 1: that goes along with my siblings as well, because my
Speaker 1: siblings don't have their dad, well, my older ones, their
Speaker 1: father is in prison. But it's We've always lived our
Speaker 1: lives with.
Speaker 2: Like we don't have a dad. My mom always raised us.
Speaker 1: You know. I always had that in my mentality up
Speaker 1: until like end of last year this year, where I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I need it.
Speaker 2: I do need to make the change.
Speaker 1: Like I do have someone that's alive and that knows me,
Speaker 1: and literally I wouldn't be here without that person. So
Speaker 1: you know, at times I'm like, damn, like I wish
Speaker 1: I knew when I was younger, so that way I
Speaker 1: can just grow into it and grow up with it
Speaker 1: and learn to live with it, versus now that I'm
Speaker 1: mature and I have all these thoughts in my heads
Speaker 1: and like I'm scared and so many fears, like it
Speaker 1: pushes me away more and have you guys, No, I don't.
Speaker 4: Think about that. That might help.
Speaker 3: That might help because you'll be able to get the
Speaker 3: things will be able to come out that you don't
Speaker 3: even know that are there on both ends.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's your pace, though, jah don't let them when it
Speaker 3: rush you into it. This is but because I was
Speaker 3: there through the whole thing, so I even know how
Speaker 3: nervous you were on not wanting to know. I know
Speaker 3: how you didn't even No, no, no, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I don't know, and I'm like no,
Speaker 4: like what if? Like you know?
Speaker 3: So I know that you have to go at your
Speaker 3: pace and what's comfortable for Jenica.
Speaker 1: Did it impact your relationships like growing up like or okay, well,
Speaker 1: will your relationship with your parents? Did it impact how
Speaker 1: your view on love with other people?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I never wanted to be married, never cared for it.
Speaker 3: It was never a dream of mine or you know
Speaker 3: how most kids, you know, they want to be princesses
Speaker 3: and all this. Never wanted to be a princess, never
Speaker 3: wanted to be married, never wanted a wedding, never pictured
Speaker 3: myself in a wedding gown, none of it.
Speaker 2: Because of that, I maybe it could be.
Speaker 3: I mean, my mom had so many different boyfriends and
Speaker 3: just different men in and out of the house, allowed
Speaker 3: them to do whatever they wanted to me, and I
Speaker 3: for a long time had like I rejected men, and
Speaker 3: I honestly like I did an event with Tory Hart,
Speaker 3: Kyla Prepp, April Jones, and there was another girl there,
Speaker 3: and it was an event at a high school where
Speaker 3: it was letters to our father and it was basically
Speaker 3: a bunch of girls that have been sexually abused. And
Speaker 3: some of them didn't have their fathers there, and some
Speaker 3: of them did, and some of them were sexually abused
Speaker 3: by their fathers.
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: I wrote a letter to my father and in that letter,
Speaker 3: this was before I had already met him, But in
Speaker 3: that letter, I blamed him for all of my mom's
Speaker 3: drug partners molesting me and for all the trauma that
Speaker 3: I went through as a child because I felt like
Speaker 3: if I had a father that I would have been protected.
Speaker 3: And if I had a father, all of these years
Speaker 3: of my adulthood, I would not have had to walk
Speaker 3: in my masculinity to always protect myself.
Speaker 4: And I'm just now learning to be feminine.
Speaker 1: And that sucks, yeah, because you You've always had to
Speaker 1: put that front.
Speaker 3: Always and it sucks, but it feels good now to
Speaker 3: recognize it. I'm one person, like I'll recognize where I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: or I'll recognize what changes I need to make.
Speaker 4: And I just got sick.
Speaker 3: Of playing both roles always, you know, And now I'm
Speaker 3: I don't want to be masculine anymore.
Speaker 4: I want I don't want. I don't want to be
Speaker 4: a princess. Yeah, I want to be a princess. There
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 1: And I think you deserve it absolutely because there's just
Speaker 1: so much and I maybe we'll get into it or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, Morgan, you you are very tough.
Speaker 2: You are very like your bossy.
Speaker 4: You lead.
Speaker 1: It's your way or no way, but that's because of
Speaker 1: the way you grew up. You had no one to
Speaker 1: depend on but yourself.
Speaker 3: I raised myself since I was seven and I'm not
Speaker 3: exaggerating that. Like I got myself ready for school at seven,
Speaker 3: I took myself to school at seven, I did my
Speaker 3: own hair, I was in grocery stores, still in groceries
Speaker 3: to feed me and my brothers. I raised myself since
Speaker 3: I was seven years old, and I was very scared
Speaker 3: of my mom, which I never I never asked for
Speaker 3: anything I would. I never had a birthday, never was celebrated,
Speaker 3: never was told I was beautiful, never was told anything.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I then, I've been in many abusive relationships, so
Speaker 3: you at some point you gotta be tough. You have
Speaker 3: to protect yourself. And it sucks because I'm just tired.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of always being taken advantage of still having
Speaker 3: a good heart, and.
Speaker 4: I'm tired of walking in my masculinity.
Speaker 3: And God blessed me with an amazing person recently who
Speaker 3: I've learned so much from and has led literally.
Speaker 4: Helped me to be feminine. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And I don't think if I didn't go through what
Speaker 3: I've gone through that I wouldn't have got to where
Speaker 3: I am today. I agree, you know, but life is
Speaker 3: scary and it's hard, especially when you're alone. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I haven't had the support of my brothers. It's always
Speaker 3: been what they can get from me, and so I've
Speaker 3: just always been alone. Yeah, and just me and my
Speaker 3: son until I had my beautiful girls.
Speaker 1: You know, was it hard for you to have kids though,
Speaker 1: because I remember it was like after the third one,
Speaker 1: you were it was just girl. You couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: So for one, I wasn't supposed to be able to
Speaker 3: have no more kids. So that was a miracle and
Speaker 3: excel itself, a Ria. Me having my oldest daughter was
Speaker 3: definitely a miracle, and she just brought so much peace
Speaker 3: to my life. And it was like a reset came
Speaker 3: over me when she was born. And I'll be honest,
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know either. The whole time
Speaker 3: I was pregnant with her, I was in a deep depression,
Speaker 3: like I was going to commit suicide, Like I was
Speaker 3: literally in therapy twice a week because I was scared
Speaker 3: that I was gonna fell as a mother to a daughter.
Speaker 3: I was scared that I was going to become my mom.
Speaker 3: And my mom was so good to my brothers, but
Speaker 3: just so horrible to me, And it was traumatizing when
Speaker 3: I found out I was having a daughter, and so
Speaker 3: it was nerve wrecking and I was in therapy and
Speaker 3: I slipped into a deep depression. And then I had
Speaker 3: her and life was just changed everything. She changed everything
Speaker 3: in me to where nothing around me painful existed. I
Speaker 3: didn't care, and that's why for so long I didn't
Speaker 3: know what was going on around me, because I was
Speaker 3: just in love, you know, like true love all over again.
Speaker 3: She literally just became my blanket.
Speaker 2: Like security.
Speaker 3: That's why she's so spoiled now. It's like she's just
Speaker 3: so used to me, like just all up on her.
Speaker 4: You know. She became my security blanket for so long,
Speaker 4: and she was just peace. And then a dale came along.
Speaker 4: I was not prepared for that.
Speaker 3: Didn't want any more kids, was not planned. But I
Speaker 3: couldn't see life without her either. And now I have
Speaker 3: to live my life, my life knowing that I have
Speaker 3: two little girls that are watching me as a woman
Speaker 3: and how I act as a woman, not as a
Speaker 3: masculine tomboy who I've always been my entire life since
Speaker 3: a little girl.
Speaker 4: Because I only have brothers. I'm the only girl.
Speaker 3: But I have to be more affectionate too. I'm not
Speaker 3: affectionate yeah, you're not. I'm not even like I've had
Speaker 3: people come hugging on I give the side church hugs
Speaker 3: like hey, what's up? And I've had to learn how
Speaker 3: to be affectionate, let them lay on me, hugs, cuddles,
Speaker 3: be girly like it's so weird.
Speaker 1: But was that because sorry to cut you off, but
Speaker 1: you don't receive affection?
Speaker 2: Was that because like of abuse.
Speaker 3: I've been told that through some psychiatrists and therapist that
Speaker 3: it's it's from the sexual abuse and the physical abuse.
Speaker 4: Never had my mom. My Mom's never hugged me, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of like a ball of everything.
Speaker 4: If my kids were not here, I wouldn't be here
Speaker 4: long time ago.
Speaker 1: How was it because you had Corey, which is her
Speaker 1: first son, the oldest, the eldest.
Speaker 2: Was it hard raising a boy?
Speaker 4: No? I have all brothers. Ye right, yeah, so it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't hard raising a.
Speaker 3: Boy, but at times I was tougher on him, so
Speaker 3: that way, I didn't like, I'm I wasn't that mom
Speaker 3: that was like, hey, what do you think of these
Speaker 3: shoes I got on?
Speaker 4: You know, like I didn't I didn't do any of that.
Speaker 3: I was I was more like a dude with him
Speaker 3: because I wanted him to be able to be masculine,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I wanted him to
Speaker 3: to have a shot at being a boy. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how to say that without like offending anybody,
Speaker 3: but that's just me. Like I wanted to make sure
Speaker 3: that my son had a chance. And I didn't put
Speaker 3: all these things in his head, like hey, you know
Speaker 3: how you know, do does mommy look pretty in this dress?
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do that to him.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, we're gonna want a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back, are you guys?
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Bargain is a freshly single mom of three. So, but
Speaker 1: you were talking about raising your boys to be boys Corey,
Speaker 1: and I think at me being around, I love how
Speaker 1: Corey protects you now, like he's I feel like he's
Speaker 1: become your safe space.
Speaker 4: Nothing.
Speaker 2: He's like been.
Speaker 1: Very He's quiet, and he knows when.
Speaker 2: Too Yeah one to say his part.
Speaker 4: He does. He does. He's a great kid.
Speaker 1: And so what has how's that relationship?
Speaker 2: Because you had him?
Speaker 4: I was eighteen when I had him. I begged to
Speaker 4: keep him. I begged, did you know he was a boy.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I did know he was a boy. Like when I
Speaker 3: was two months pregnant, and the family, his dad's side,
Speaker 3: his grandmother, she's like my mother now. They were all
Speaker 3: trying to force me to get an abortion. And I
Speaker 3: pulled her to the side and I said, listen, if
Speaker 3: you let me have him, I will never child support him,
Speaker 3: I will never ask for help, I will never anything.
Speaker 3: I need somebody to love me. I need him. And
Speaker 3: she let me keep him.
Speaker 2: You felt like that was a sign from God.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I needed him. I did. I was
Speaker 4: so just lost and alone in the world. I was
Speaker 4: literally on my own. My mom had died when I
Speaker 4: was fifteen. I was living with my aunt for a
Speaker 4: little while.
Speaker 3: It was not my real aunt, but I was living
Speaker 3: with someone for a little while, and some things happened there.
Speaker 3: I ran away, something very traumatic happened to me. And
Speaker 3: when I was when I ran away, and then I
Speaker 3: ended up meeting my son's father a little bit after
Speaker 3: and we were in love, like we were.
Speaker 4: We were in love. You know. He was a really
Speaker 4: good guy in the beginning.
Speaker 3: And then start off with the push, start off with
Speaker 3: the pull, start off with the names, and then just
Speaker 3: full on five.
Speaker 4: Year abusive relationship.
Speaker 3: And you know, I had someone come up to come
Speaker 3: up to me and tell me, if you don't get
Speaker 3: out of this, you know, either your son's going to
Speaker 3: become a woman beater because his dad's dad was, or
Speaker 3: you're gonna end up dead. And so I left that
Speaker 3: week and never went back.
Speaker 2: H how do you do?
Speaker 1: Like, I just don't know where you find that strength.
Speaker 1: And I think even till this day, to what you've
Speaker 1: been up to, what till what till what you've been
Speaker 1: through till this day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel like, when is enough enough?
Speaker 4: Now? Now? Now that's it for me. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not attracting it anymore. I think I was. I
Speaker 3: was attracting trauma and I was attracting damaged people and
Speaker 3: toxic people, you know, because I feel like I had
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff about me that was toxic and
Speaker 3: didn't realize it. And yeah, and like I said, I'm
Speaker 3: one person when there's something wrong with me or I
Speaker 3: need to die to self, I'm the first one to
Speaker 3: be like, I will reevaluate myself immediately and correct myself.
Speaker 3: Maybe not in public, maybe maybe maybe not right here.
Speaker 3: Like if you're cussing me out.
Speaker 4: I won't. I'll shut down and or I'll pop back
Speaker 4: off with you.
Speaker 3: But when I go home, I'm literally I'm sitting with
Speaker 3: it and I'm over analyzing it, and it's consuming me,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: And I felt like.
Speaker 3: It's a spiritual warfare out there as well. And I
Speaker 3: feel like I've always been the devil's target because my
Speaker 3: true calling and my purpose and I had no idea
Speaker 3: how big my calling was in my purpose, and so
Speaker 3: it makes sense. Yeah, but he should have took me
Speaker 3: out when he had the chance, because now I can
Speaker 3: identify what's evil, and now I can identify what's toxic
Speaker 3: and what's not for me, and what's not safe and
Speaker 3: what's not good, you know, and not healthy. Before I
Speaker 3: just wanted love so bad that I didn't care how
Speaker 3: it looked or how it felt, or if it came
Speaker 3: with a punch, or if it came with a slap,
Speaker 3: or if it came with narcissism.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be loved.
Speaker 2: And you've got it.
Speaker 1: You want people fall back into cycles or fall back
Speaker 1: into what they grew up with, because that's.
Speaker 2: Exactly what it is. You grew up with it. You're
Speaker 2: comfortable with the abuse, you were comfortable with the as
Speaker 2: long as you sensed.
Speaker 1: A little bit of love exactly, and what did that
Speaker 1: shift for you?
Speaker 3: Honestly, when I met somebody, I met somebody. You know
Speaker 3: I've been I was separated now would be a year
Speaker 3: and two months, and so two months into the separation,
Speaker 3: I met somebody and it was for me. I felt
Speaker 3: like it was an angel sent from God. And I
Speaker 3: know many people may think, oh, but you were actually
Speaker 3: still in marriage, so it could know it was an angel.
Speaker 3: It was an angel sent from God because I didn't
Speaker 3: know how to love myself and I didn't I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I never I feel like I never had anyone care
Speaker 3: enough to see me. And I felt like I feel
Speaker 3: like my entire life I was just existing.
Speaker 2: You're surviving, m M.
Speaker 4: I've always just been surviving.
Speaker 3: And this person came into my life and brought me
Speaker 3: to life. And I tell this person all the time
Speaker 3: like they literally brought me back to life because for
Speaker 3: the first time in I'm almost forty, nobody ever loved
Speaker 3: me like that. Nobody ever saw me, nobody ever prayed
Speaker 3: over me, nobody ever encouraged me the way that this
Speaker 3: person did. No one ever protected me the way that
Speaker 3: this person did. And you know, I'm forever grateful, I
Speaker 3: really am, because they taught me how to pray. I
Speaker 3: was comfortable enough to tell this person I didn't know
Speaker 3: how to read. They taught me how to read the Bible,
Speaker 3: you know, Like that is so big to me, you know,
Speaker 3: I to be able to announce that I could read
Speaker 3: the Bible. And God set me an angel just to
Speaker 3: guide me through this process, you know, and to help
Speaker 3: me through it. And I'm just I'm thankful that that
Speaker 3: person was there because I went through seven years a hell,
Speaker 3: literally seven years a hell.
Speaker 2: You did, and I'm so proud that you got out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy, I'm so so so like and
Speaker 1: I don't again, I'm just amazed because I know that
Speaker 1: there's people watching or listening and people that have been
Speaker 1: through what you've been through, or maybe even worse or
Speaker 1: maybe even a little less. But there's always a message
Speaker 1: in this pain and this pain that you went through.
Speaker 1: What are your life like three things like say again,
Speaker 1: the people watching or listening, or maybe even your friends
Speaker 1: that didn't even know friends that or whatever maybe they did.
Speaker 1: What are things that you could say that you've learned
Speaker 1: in this lifetime like that you carry on to this day.
Speaker 4: Money could never fulfill you. Only the presence of God
Speaker 4: can do that.
Speaker 3: Because I have so many people who were like, you're
Speaker 3: walking away with nothing, like are you kidding me? Or
Speaker 3: I gave back my Bentley, not how much I did
Speaker 3: not care. I wanted out. I gave back my Bam.
Speaker 2: No, that's superficial. Shit doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I walked away from a five point five million dollar
Speaker 3: house that's still sitting in Miami, didn't care to become
Speaker 3: a renter. I still own the house. I'm still part
Speaker 3: owner of the house. But my sanity. I was mentally
Speaker 3: going crazy. I was about to kill myself numerous times.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, like, for me, depression is serious
Speaker 3: because it runs in my family. My grandmother killed herself
Speaker 3: from her husband committing adultery. You know, my grandmother committed
Speaker 3: suicide from it. And so I know that you know
Speaker 3: that it's it, you know that there's an effect there.
Speaker 3: But I also know that God is more powerful, and
Speaker 3: I seek him in those.
Speaker 4: Times, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But it was like I was mentally losing my mind.
Speaker 3: I had went through so many deaths back to back
Speaker 3: and you know, my son and his girlfriend broke up,
Speaker 3: and I was like, my daughter, that girl that devastated
Speaker 3: me more than half the deaths that I went through
Speaker 3: because I love her. I love her, and I to
Speaker 3: this day, I'm always gonna love her. You know that
Speaker 3: that was my daughter's girlfriend. And when I met her,
Speaker 3: you know, God spoke to me about her. She had
Speaker 3: been through what I had been through with her mom dying,
Speaker 3: and so I wanted to just take care of her,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's who I am.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: I think the depths woke me up too, to not
Speaker 3: just exist and to actually live.
Speaker 1: There's one say, where's one thing of people saying it
Speaker 1: like this is gonna you know, this should teach you
Speaker 1: something or whatever, and then it actually hitting you.
Speaker 4: And it hit me.
Speaker 3: I looked around and I was in a depression for
Speaker 3: a year when my best friend died. And then you know,
Speaker 3: there was a guy that I had been in love
Speaker 3: with my entire life and he was murdered. Before any
Speaker 3: of the deaths, he was the first one, and that
Speaker 3: hit me hard because out of respect for my marriage,
Speaker 3: I didn't show up to the funeral. And I can
Speaker 3: never get that moment back. And only to find out
Speaker 3: what was still going on was still going on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I was over here trying to be so loyal
Speaker 3: and no one was being loyal to me, and so
Speaker 3: I didn't go to the funeral. And then he actually
Speaker 3: was cremated, so there was no like obviously the spirit
Speaker 3: went up to heaven anyways, but there was just no
Speaker 3: place to go get the closure, you know, even after
Speaker 3: the split, you know, but you know, I ended up,
Speaker 3: you know, someone close to me that was like a
Speaker 3: brother passed away, and then I had to be the
Speaker 3: one to orchestrate the entire funeral, plan the entire funeral,
Speaker 3: and it just was so draining. It like it was
Speaker 3: just dark and just there was just it just it
Speaker 3: just felt like something was going on around me that
Speaker 3: I couldn't see with my eyes, and I needed to
Speaker 3: be set free from it.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like your emotions were taken advantage in
Speaker 1: a very vulnerable position, Like your emotions were already fucked
Speaker 1: up with all these deaths. Here's this person. Let me
Speaker 1: make it a little bit worse while she's not looking.
Speaker 4: And then we all know.
Speaker 3: I moved to Miami to be closer to the church
Speaker 3: and to fix my situation.
Speaker 4: And that wasn't what I thought it was. And so
Speaker 4: I was angry at God for an entire year.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask you, Like, in the
Speaker 1: midst of all this, all of this, how was it? Like?
Speaker 1: How did you manage to still I don't know, live
Speaker 1: or focus or still believe like that God was like there.
Speaker 3: I didn't for a year until he sent me the Angel.
Speaker 3: I couldn't pray. I was angry at God when I
Speaker 3: lost my best friend Ronnie Hillman that I literally watched
Speaker 3: him take his last breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was there with him when he was on hospice,
Speaker 3: was there when he got diagnosed. You know, that was
Speaker 3: one of the only people who always had my back
Speaker 3: no matter what, just never saw no wrong in me ever,
Speaker 3: And I I was angry at God. That was an understatement.
Speaker 3: I couldn't pray. I felt like I was obedient. There
Speaker 3: was a time in my life where I was too religious.
Speaker 3: I wasn't listening to worldly music. I stopped hanging out
Speaker 3: my worldly friends. I was in drink, having no wine.
Speaker 4: No drink like I was. I was overwhelming with this Christianity.
Speaker 3: It was it was it was like girl piped down,
Speaker 3: girl like it's okay to live. I was not living either,
Speaker 3: and so I was too religious, and it was it
Speaker 3: was like, you're so religious, but there was so much
Speaker 3: stuff going on behind closed doors, you know, And it
Speaker 3: was just like, Where's when is God showing up? Where
Speaker 3: where is he in in in this relationship right now?
Speaker 3: Because I'm not seeing it, you know. And when I
Speaker 3: moved to Miami, there were so many people who told
Speaker 3: me that God told them that I should move out there,
Speaker 3: and I listened, and I moved my entire life, sold
Speaker 3: my home that I built from the ground up, my
Speaker 3: only sanctuary to me, like that was my security blanket.
Speaker 4: I built that house to move into a house that was.
Speaker 3: Just so demonic, I don't care how, and it just
Speaker 3: put it just it was a twelve thousand square foot
Speaker 3: piece of shit, if I can be honest and say
Speaker 3: that on ear, you know, it was it was nothing.
Speaker 3: Nothing was never It felt like a long extended airbnbsta.
Speaker 3: You came to the house, you came there. There was
Speaker 3: no love in there, There was no no matter how
Speaker 3: many nights I cooked and posted on social.
Speaker 4: Media, it never felt like a home ever.
Speaker 3: And so I was angry at God because I was obedient,
Speaker 3: and it was like the only thing that was driving
Speaker 3: that situation was money. And I was sick of it.
Speaker 3: I was sick of it. I would have rather moved
Speaker 3: into a Section eight low income apartment than continue to
Speaker 3: live like that, to continue to live in hell and
Speaker 3: to mentally be going crazy. Because narcissism is real, because
Speaker 3: you were abused. Yeah, And I didn't know. I had
Speaker 3: no clue what narcissism even was until last year.
Speaker 4: I had no clue.
Speaker 3: And I went on a twenty one day fast to
Speaker 3: make sure that I was making the right decisions, the
Speaker 3: right decision on leaving. I had been separated for over
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: A person could persuade you to think, you're you're ruining
Speaker 3: your family, You're destroying your girls, You're doing this, you're
Speaker 3: doing that. Oh you're gonna fail, You're gonna fall flat
Speaker 3: on your face. And I started to question that, and
Speaker 3: so I went on a twenty one day fast, and
Speaker 3: I really asked God if I was making the right
Speaker 3: decision moving back here, and if I was making the
Speaker 3: right decision leaving, and if I was making the right
Speaker 3: decision putting myself first. And I tell you, as soon
Speaker 3: as that twenty one day fast is over. God revealed
Speaker 3: everything to me everything, And I've never in my life
Speaker 3: and I'm thirty nine now have I ever been this
Speaker 3: happy in this moment right now, I'm at peace. I
Speaker 3: just you ever just feel like you can't breathe or
Speaker 3: like you're just stuck and you might as well be dead. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's literally how I felt. And I can't go all
Speaker 3: the way into detail on like every trauma that I
Speaker 3: just came out of, you know, but I will, you know.
Speaker 3: And I never put my book out because I wasn't
Speaker 3: telling the truth.
Speaker 4: In the end.
Speaker 2: It wasn't over. The story wasn't over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, reason why all those publishings.
Speaker 4: Everything just kept like I just and it is.
Speaker 3: It was crazy because everybody's like, oh, the book's not
Speaker 3: out yet.
Speaker 4: When's the book coming out? When? And I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I don't feel that it's time.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, We're going to on a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Are you guys? Welcome back?
Speaker 1: Because I remember when all that book publishing, you couldn't
Speaker 1: find this person, that person Morgan. Your story wasn't over
Speaker 1: and it's still not over, that little thin book that
Speaker 1: you gave me to read that thin as book is
Speaker 1: probably gonna be like like this. I remember getting a
Speaker 1: sample for the book and she's like, read it. Let
Speaker 1: me know what you think.
Speaker 4: Did I give you the Spanish version of the English?
Speaker 2: The English?
Speaker 1: But I remember, and I'm like, it's so small, there's
Speaker 1: so much of Morgan. And then then this, it's just
Speaker 1: it wasn't meant to be. It wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 1: And as a friend and as someone that I know
Speaker 1: a good amount of the story, and I know i'm
Speaker 1: a little I would say the surface of what happened
Speaker 1: and before and after, like, I'm so grateful to God.
Speaker 2: You are back in La. Your girls are safe.
Speaker 1: Corey is a grown man doing his thing. Responsible. But
Speaker 1: you are doing a good job, and you are doing
Speaker 1: the best that you could have done. Then little Morgan,
Speaker 1: with Corey and with these two girls. Now you're doing
Speaker 1: the best you could as a mother and even still
Speaker 1: as a friend to other people, because I think now
Speaker 1: it's your time. There comes a point in your life
Speaker 1: where you got to stop showing up for other people
Speaker 1: and be there for yourself.
Speaker 4: That's what I've realized, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Yea, God, Morgan, you have to it's done. You're done,
Speaker 1: Like that's it, and this goes for everybody else as well,
Speaker 1: Like you got it. Stop worrying about what people are
Speaker 1: gonna say, what people are gonna do, and just live
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: How you want to do it. Yeah, find that piece.
Speaker 1: Nothing is more important than the peace that you have
Speaker 1: in your heart. And that's what I've learned in this
Speaker 1: year too. Like I'm done satisfying other people or sacrificing
Speaker 1: my happiness or my time because time is too precious.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm done wasting my time on people that do not
Speaker 1: respect me, that do not care or do not think
Speaker 1: that I have the capability.
Speaker 2: No, maybe I'm done. Time is too precious.
Speaker 1: You are too precious to be letting your time and
Speaker 1: your mental space go to waste.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm I'm checked out of it, Like I'm
Speaker 3: what I feel now. I know now what I've been
Speaker 3: chasing my entire life, which was happiness, and that's.
Speaker 1: Within and it took you what forty years to get it?
Speaker 3: Almost, girl, Give me my little money, No, I got,
Speaker 3: I got always till February.
Speaker 4: Give me my month in my.
Speaker 1: Thirty ninety nine years.
Speaker 3: Yes, give me my month, you know, because i learned
Speaker 3: so much in these last like I want to say,
Speaker 3: like six months, then I've learned in a lifetime even
Speaker 3: with like.
Speaker 4: For me, I feel like people take the cheating lightly.
Speaker 3: And why I say that is because during my fast,
Speaker 3: a lot of people like I was, I was really chunky.
Speaker 4: These last seven years, six years, and I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I'm not. I've never been chunky
Speaker 3: in my life. Like I'll have kids and then two
Speaker 3: years later I'll lose the weight. But I've never been
Speaker 3: a chunky person ever. And after my fast, I went
Speaker 3: on this very crazy spiritual fast. I lost twenty pounds
Speaker 3: on my fast. And when I tell you this may
Speaker 3: sound wird, I was throwing up foam. I was throwing
Speaker 3: up all kinds of demonic nesting. Because what people don't
Speaker 3: understand is when you're out here and you're just sleeping
Speaker 3: with whoever you want to sleep with, you don't know
Speaker 3: what God they're worshiping.
Speaker 4: You don't know if they're doing voodoo to the max,
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 3: Don't know what voodoo they're doing, what witchcraft they're doing,
Speaker 3: and all of that is jumping not only on you,
Speaker 3: but your partner as well.
Speaker 4: And then whoever they've been with. All of that is
Speaker 4: tied to you.
Speaker 3: Second, I got off my fast. Girl, There's no way
Speaker 3: I lost twenty pounds in two weeks. Explain anybody want
Speaker 3: to explain that? Because it wasn't Ozmpic. So my glue tie.
Speaker 3: Because I was on that at first. That didn't do
Speaker 3: nothing for me. Probably lost like five pounds on that thing.
Speaker 4: Really nothing, It did nothing. It did nothing.
Speaker 3: And that was in October of last year. Right, I
Speaker 3: went on a twenty one day fast. The first week
Speaker 3: I didn't lose no weight. That picture I posted it
Speaker 3: before that picture. I posted it before and after the
Speaker 3: photo when I was a little chunkier. That was week
Speaker 3: That was week one that I had knocked down. The
Speaker 3: last two weeks I lost twenty pounds. And that was
Speaker 3: because of all the demons that had been on me.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you, I shucked them things like
Speaker 3: a girl.
Speaker 1: I got out of there, like you can keep this
Speaker 1: five years only twenty pounds a little more, No, but
Speaker 1: for real, you detoxed everything out, You let it out.
Speaker 4: From childhood and all of it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just the five years, no, it was it
Speaker 3: was I felt peace and fulfilled for the first time
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 2: So what are you looking forward to now?
Speaker 3: I am looking forward to my purpose and my calling.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to being a light for women. I
Speaker 3: know you say I'm done, but I'm done being that
Speaker 3: extra yes hand, but I'm nowhere near done when it
Speaker 3: comes to my calling, and my calling is women, and
Speaker 3: I need to show women that they're strong enough, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I need to be a voice
Speaker 3: for them to stand up for themselves and to not
Speaker 3: just just stay stuck and to not just exist. And
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna focus on the book, and I'm going
Speaker 3: to focus on my calling, my ministry and just really
Speaker 3: get to work.
Speaker 4: Get to work.
Speaker 3: Because my daughters are still watching me, and I've been
Speaker 3: told I'm gonna fail, and so I got to give
Speaker 3: everybody a show them.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to do it, and I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see it.
Speaker 4: I love you and.
Speaker 1: I love being away from me whatever ever, ever, ever?
Speaker 4: Can I get some spaghetti please? You guys have no idea.
Speaker 4: She's the best spaghetti.
Speaker 2: But are you done with fast so I can make
Speaker 2: it for you? Or no?
Speaker 4: No, I'm actually on another twenty one day fast. I'm
Speaker 4: on week two right.
Speaker 3: Now, So after next week I'm coming over for some spaghetti.
Speaker 4: I'm actually on another twenty one right now because whatever
Speaker 4: he moved.
Speaker 3: Mountains for me, and so now I need him to
Speaker 3: show me what it is he wants me to do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and what my purpose is. I know what my purpose is.
Speaker 4: But what direction?
Speaker 3: Do you still want me to do my business that
Speaker 3: I've been doing for seven years? Or is it time
Speaker 3: for me to walk away from that? Is it time
Speaker 3: for me to just focus solely on women empowerment? I
Speaker 3: need to know And the only way to do that
Speaker 3: is to silence everything around me.
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, keep punching the mic.
Speaker 2: No, but it's it's really that.
Speaker 1: It's like you got to come back to you, come
Speaker 1: back to God and figure out exactly what the.
Speaker 4: Path is exactly.
Speaker 2: And I'm excited for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and I thank you. I know that this
Speaker 1: wasn't easy to do. I know that we had a
Speaker 1: little hiccups.
Speaker 2: With the baby, but I'm grateful.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you in so many ways.
Speaker 2: Morgan, you have no idea.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I have nothing but good things to say about you,
Speaker 1: other than that you're crazy. You know, crazy bitch A
Speaker 1: little bit sometimes I don't.
Speaker 4: Business is business, and that's always gonna be.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for everything that you've done for me and
Speaker 1: you've taught me and being that voice in my life.
Speaker 1: And I can't thank God enough because you are alike.
Speaker 1: I love you so so so much, and I want
Speaker 1: people to have the opportunity to follow you, to follow
Speaker 1: your story.
Speaker 3: What is your social Morgan Hardman on Instagram on Instagram.
Speaker 1: If you guys needed a light or a voice, or
Speaker 1: if you're in a dark situation, please know that you
Speaker 1: are not alone. There's other women, Morgan being an example.
Speaker 1: You are not alone. God is with you, and I
Speaker 1: think I thank you so much and I love you,
Speaker 1: and please make sure you guys like common subscribe. If
Speaker 1: you guys need any help, I'm gonna leave a domestic
Speaker 1: violence hotline, suicide hotline, everything in the descriptions.
Speaker 2: That way, you guys can take.
Speaker 1: A look at that therapy as well.
Speaker 2: It's so important.
Speaker 1: But other than that, thank you guys so much and
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