1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Sam donald Slinging Sammy d is the Louisiana Hot Sauce 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Player of the Week, You name him player of the Year. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: He finished with three hundred and forty sticks passing yards 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. Seattle's went over the Rams. My guy, Sam 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Darnald becomes the first quarterback from the twenty eighteen draft 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: class to make a Super Bowl. Yeah, the original Louisiana 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Hot sauce stuff is so good. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: Pepper's vinegar, salt. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: I put it on chips, eggs, nachos, burger I put 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: it on everything. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: I'm having a cocktail. I knocks him in there too. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Hit any tailgate food with a bold, handcrafted flavor of 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: the original Louisiana Hot sauce. That is Louisiana Hot. Buy 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: you some, all right, I'm not sure where it's gonna go. 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: We never do. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: It's Danny Parkins, So I'm gonna throw this out. So 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: when I used to take phone calls on my show, 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: which was mostly ESPN days, then when I started doing 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: it as a TV show and a radio show, this 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: it's like TV shows don't take phone calls, but I 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: for years, So I stopped taking them for a while. 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: On the Patriots, because every single caller was they're cheaters. 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: So what has happened in America, Danny is collective amnesia. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: So during the Patriots run, and I think I was 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: the biggest pro Patriots supporter or defender during their run 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: on national radio. Obviously the Boston radio guys were mostly 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: in support of it. There was Spygate one, they lost 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: a first round draft pick and the coach was fined 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: half a million dollars. That's pretty serious. That's like Houston 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Astro's level. You're losing top picks. There was Spygate two, 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: which people forget about, where they were fined and lost. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: And that was by the way, in like the twenty 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: twenty one it was a Bengals Browns game. 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: They lost eighth third round pick. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: There was defleet gate where they were fined a million 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: dollars had lost another first round pick. When you have 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: three gates on your resume, it is reasonable. I said 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: this today on the show. If you have three asterisks, 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: I think it's reasonable to ask should we pause or collectively? 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: Yet today it is viewed as outrageous if we go, 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, how about a little punishment. Just wait for 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: a year, since you know, Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, and 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs had to wait five years to be eligible 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: and still didn't get in in their first So it's 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: funny how the pendulum has swung the American sports fans, Danny. 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: They want a happy ending. We know that movies do tests. 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: People don't like negative endings. They get furious with the 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: Patriots when they get in the way of Super Bowls 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: and great seasons and get in the way of their 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: team Spygate two to play Gate, but they also don't 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: like when you get in the way of Belichick's Hall 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: of Fame voting. It's a sad ending because they want 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: to they don't want the turbulence. But it is as 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 2: if there's a collective amnesia. Is that I literally the 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: whole dynasty Kansas City, it was rigged their dynasty because 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: everybody loved mahomes. W's rigged New England's dynasty. Is they're 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: just cheaters, And today when you suggest one year punishment's 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: not the end of the world, people are outraged. It 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: feels like collective. 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Amnesia to me. So there's obviously a ton of wrinkles 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: to this story, and there's no doubt collective amnesia, Like 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: the same people who are outraged at the cheating are 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: now outraged at the exclusion from the Hall of Fame. 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: That is obviously logically inconsistent. But I do think it 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: was ridiculous that he didn't get into the Pro Football 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame on the first ballot. And I will 68 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: tell you why. In baseball, there is a morality clause. Yes, 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: it's written into it. There are like instructions impact on 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: the game, accomplishments, morality, integrity of the game. The Pro 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: Football of Fame it just tells you who you can 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: vote for. There is no guiding principle. 73 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: By the way, it's basically only fans with cleats and 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: a helmet. You can do anything you want or now 75 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: there's no guidelines and it's and. 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure you voted for things in your in your career, 77 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: like I do you have a Heisman vote? 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: I used to, and I thought it was so provincial 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: and tribal it was ridiculous. 80 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I just said, this is stupid. Okay, But the 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy vote, there's like literally over a thousand people 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: who vote for it. Yeah, so one vote is not 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: that significant. Baseball Hall Fame a lot of people vote 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: for it Pro Football Fame, it's fifty people who vote no. 85 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: So one vote is two percent. Okay, that is crazy. 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: So exactly so if you need eighty percent, that means 87 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: you need forty out of fifty people to agree. And 88 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, if you've looked around the world recently, 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: you can't get eighty percent of people to agree on anything. 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: So expecting anything to be unanimous is probably unreasonable. Into 91 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: twenty six. But the Pro Football Hall of Fame, I 92 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: think what has been cool about it is that it 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: is the hardest Hall of Fame to get into. Because 94 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: of that, Like it's you know, guys have to wait years. 95 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: There's a long jam positions. There's coaches and contributors, and 96 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: then the first ballot guys and then the senior committee. 97 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: But it all comes down to this like five person hall. 98 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: It's very difficult hall of Fame to get in. But 99 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: like there is Bill, some guys that just passed the 100 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: test of since it is a meritocracy because there is 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: no voting guidelines. Oh, Randy Moss's first ballot. You say, 102 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: Randy Moss, He's first ballot, And I think Bill Belichick 103 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: for all of us reached that threshold. Bill Belichick most 104 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: Super Bowls, most playoff wins, second most regular season wins. 105 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: If he can't be first ballot, who is? And then 106 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: you get the Bill Polly in nonsense of great journalists 107 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: say he was leading a campaign against them, and then 108 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: he gets contacted him he's like, I honestly don't even 109 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: remember who I voted for. And he's like, well, wait, 110 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: you're two percent of the electorate and you claim you 111 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: don't know who you voted for. That is obviously problematic. 112 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: And then I don't know if you saw. He's a 113 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: buddy of mine. Vaje Gregorian. He's the only person. And 114 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: if I've missed it in the last hour, I apologize, 115 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: but it broke just before I went on the air 116 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: at five eastern. Vaja Gregorian posted his column in the 117 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: Kansas City Star. He used to work for the Saint 118 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: Louis Post Dispatch, then he lived to working in the 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Kansas City Star. So he's been a Midwest reporter and 120 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: columnists whole career. My friend Terrez Paler, who wrote for 121 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: the Star and Yahoo, tragically passed away a few years ago, 122 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: had way too young of age. He had a Hall 123 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: of Fame vote when Terres passed, Vaje. Gregorian took the 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: Kansas City vote and he posted a column I would vote, Uh, 125 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: I forget what the headline was exactly. I want to 126 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: get it. I want to get it exactly. I just 127 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: want to have it correct. I remember the argument, I 128 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: want to get the headline. Bill Belichick belongs in the 129 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. But here's why I didn't vote for him. 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: And he said it didn't have anything to do with cheating, 131 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: and his argument, which I do not agree with him, 132 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: he acknowledges in the column most people will not was 133 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: basically a procedural issue that now the coaching candidate Belichick, 134 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: the contribution candidate Craft, and the Senior Committee people Elsie Greenwood, 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: Roger Craig Ken Anderson were all in the same pool 136 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: and you could only vote for three of the five, 137 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: and va Hayes's deductive reasoning was, well, these guys he 138 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: thought that Craig, Greenwood and Anderson all deserved to be 139 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Hall of famers, and on the Senior Committee would be 140 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: their last chance of being up because other people would 141 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: come in behind him. So he wanted to take a 142 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: last stand for these guys. Now, I personally think that's 143 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: ridiculous and not how I personally would vote, because they 144 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: if they made it to the Senior Committee, maybe they're 145 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: not Hall of famers, Like maybe they're right because they 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: had to go through the whole normal process, the Eli 147 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: Manning process that he just didn't get in all that. 148 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: Vajee disagrees I don't have a vote. He does, it's 149 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: worth two percent. But so and so he argues in 150 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: the column, he's like, you basically had Robert Kraft and 151 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick with the same accomplishments competing against each other. 152 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: So I went with the Senior Committee guys. And I 153 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: at least respect that he came out and said why 154 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: he did it, because everybody else seems to be running 155 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: from the heat. And so if every if eleven people 156 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: came out and said steroids were my issue, I want 157 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: eleven people to stand on it. Instead, we have one 158 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: person saying I voted for the Senior Committee guys because 159 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: of a procedural issue, and one person saying I don't 160 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: remember who I voted for. So that's just it's not 161 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: you and I are logic, guys. Your argument of collective 162 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: amnesia is logical. My argument of, hey, this thing's a meritocracy. 163 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: He's the best to ever do it. He has the 164 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: most accomplishments. There's no morality clause put his ass in 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame like a one year punishment. It 166 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: feels trivial or whatever. Like, I think both of our 167 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: arguments are logical, and I just don't. I don't like 168 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: that no one is standing. No one has come out 169 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: and said, yeah, he cheated, so I didn't vote for him. Still, 170 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. We're just assuming, like on his behalf and 171 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: with some reporting from seth Wickers having nada, we're just 172 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: assuming it's because of cheating. No one has said it's 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: because of cheating yet. 174 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've said, I said today I would vote 175 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: him in. I would have slept on it. If you 176 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: have multiple asterisks, I think it deserves sleeping on it 177 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: because I would take my vote very seriously. But I 178 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: would have voted him in. But I get somebody who 179 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: said spygates, spygate two, deflate gate, multiple draft picks three 180 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: different times, multiple Like, I get it. Here's the other thing. 181 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: Have we under valued craft? There is this sense well owners, 182 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: it's just their whimsy. They're impulsive. I don't know parcels under. 183 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: Kraft got to a Super Bowl with Ledsoe Belichick, Brady 184 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: got to several Vrabel Drake May Okay, So Robert Kraft 185 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: is responsible for a lot of Super Bowls. Jerry Jones, 186 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: Ego Cleveland's Jimmy Haslum's dysfunction. It seems to me lost 187 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: in all of this is, you know, Kraft is the 188 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: one owner that negotiates for the league with the TV networks, 189 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: Meaning Roger Goodell selects one owner he trusts to call Fox, CBS, Amazon, Netflix, 190 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: It's Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft has now been to more 191 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowls than like the Pittsburgh Steelers lost in this 192 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: is a sense of well, it was a Brady Belichick 193 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: super Bowl. Robert Craft's probably probably the best. 194 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: Owner in the league. And listen, I think that he 195 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: deserves to get into the Hall of Fame. I do 196 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: too as well. And you mentioned other places that are dysfunctional. 197 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: It I don't know if he is excellent or if 198 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: the billionaire class is just full of weirdos. Because the 199 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: guy in Buffalo Pegoula, Yeah, he speaks at that press 200 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: conference to justify the firing of Sean McDermott and he's like, well, 201 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: I didn't even consider firing him. And then we had 202 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: a playoff game where we turned the ball over a bunch. 203 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: I thought we won because of the catch no catch call, 204 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: and then I saw my guys crying in the locker room, 205 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: so I fired the coach. I was like, what, Like, wait, 206 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: you thought you won. Your quarterback was crying because he 207 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: felt he let the team down. Yeah, your defense gave 208 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: up a lot of points. But you also turned the 209 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: ball over a lot that led to quite a few 210 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: of those points. Like that's why you fired the coach. 211 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: And it's weird because I actually think that what they 212 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: did was totally reasonable, like in terms of the actions, 213 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: promoting Joe Brady, young offensive guy, young play caller, familiarity 214 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: with the quarterback, hiring a young defensive coordinator from the 215 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: Broncos younger minds. All that I thought like that was 216 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: if Pagoula had never spoken, I'd be like, oh, yeah, 217 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: good moves by Buffaloo. But because he did, I'm like, well, 218 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: there was no rhyme or reason to any of this, 219 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: and we just I do think that there are exceptions 220 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: to the rule, Like Robert Craft is the exception. He 221 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: seems to be exceptionally competent. Biscotti when he spoke about 222 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: the firing of John Harbaugh in Baltimore's he seemed here's 223 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: how I communicated it, here's why I did it, here's 224 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: my plan, Here's why I was disappointed. And it was 225 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: just like, oh, I get it. I get why that 226 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: guy is great at what he does. But it seems 227 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: like that's few and further between. Because you've met more 228 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: billionaires than I have, they seem to be odd ducks. 229 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that. You know what, if you're a 230 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: tech billionaire, I don't know that that means that you 231 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: are terribly qualified to run a basketball team or you know, 232 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: or a I don't know that the skills necessarily translate 233 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: in all these walks of life. 234 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Well, it always feels to me if you own a 235 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: local sports team, it's a it's a public good, it's 236 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: a public trust. It is different. It's different than owning 237 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: a tech company. There is a responsibility to do well 238 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: by your local citizenry. They're paying often some of the 239 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: you know, the bond payments, they're they're paying for some 240 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: of the stadiums. They're paying enormous amounts to support your franchise. 241 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: You know, very rarely does the owner, the billionaire owner, 242 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: pick up the entire tab on a stadium. So I mean, 243 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: it's it's a public trust, the public good. So I 244 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: think there's some really good owners, and I think there's 245 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: a lot of egos. And you know, we've discussed that 246 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: before as the all billionaires now they used to be 247 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: one hundred millionaires, and it's just different now. They're more 248 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: impulsive and more willing to just blow stuff up. I mean, 249 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: we had ten coaching openings this year, and I think 250 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: four of them came. 251 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: As a massive shock. 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: It's like what so usually those like one you're kind 253 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: of surprised by. It's like almost half you're like, what 254 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: in the hell is going on? 255 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: You know? 256 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: The It really is interesting about when you look at 257 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: the Patriots dynasty, and I've said this before, is they 258 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: men are great at starting things. Every guy's got a 259 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: great pickup line, but we won't pick up the phone 260 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: when we break up. 261 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: We're terrible at endings and craft. 262 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there was some bumps before this. Belichick has 263 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: been really choppy, but you know who's ended really well, Brady. 264 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: And my takeaway in all of this is, you know, 265 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you remember the where Craft got caught up 266 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: in a situation where massage parlor is really really bad Tawdrey, 267 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: and then Belichick's been a bit of a mess in 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: his personal life whatever. I'm not judging on that. But 269 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: lost in all of this is how effing great Tom 270 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: Brady is. So nobody would dispute that. Every great coach, 271 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Chuck Nole, they've all had a 272 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: great quarterback, but if you take away that quarterback from 273 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: their resume, they still went about fifty percent of their games. 274 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's winning percentage is below Jerry Glanville if you 275 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: take out Brady, and I think the greatness of Brady 276 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: is that it's almost how I consider my wife. She 277 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: just takes care of everything. 278 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: In the house. 279 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: She corrects things and solves things. They don't even get 280 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: to me that Brady during that twenty year run. You 281 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: never credit the president who avoids the disaster because you 282 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 2: don't know about it, right, Like I always said this 283 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: one of the things about Obama. When we went into 284 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: that recession, it could have been a depression, but we 285 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: somehow wiggled out of it, and you don't get credit 286 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: for avoiding the depression because it never happened. Right, Yeah, 287 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: and my wife, the household would be in disarray once 288 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: a week if I ran it. She doesn't get credit 289 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: for the disaster she avoids. Brady was so fundamentally sound, 290 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: so detail oriented. There were almost no bumps. I mean, 291 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: you go twenty years and did they have a three 292 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: game losing streak? It was like it just never happened 293 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: that in all of this Craft Belichick, Josh McDaniel, Brady, 294 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: Charlie Weiss, you can take everybody, the one guy that 295 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: comes out and you're like, man, he's doing better than 296 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: ever is Tom Brady? 297 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to have your stuff together. Pretty pretty 298 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: accomplished guy, pretty pretty successful. And the is it more 299 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: Brady or is it more Belichick debate ended with Tom 300 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: and Tampa. Yeah, right, obviously it ended. But also we 301 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: should have just known a little better, Like like Peyton 302 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: Manning went to four Super Bowls with four different coaches, 303 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: right right, because he's Peyton Manning, you know what I mean. 304 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: Like there's a there's a stratosphere of guys. They're like 305 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: Mahomes obviously landed in a great situation, got to sit 306 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: for a year behind a very smart, very talented former 307 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: number one overall pick and Alex Smith who had been 308 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: winning ten or eleven games each year he got there. 309 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: He has Andy Reid, great offensive mind, Travis Kelcey, tire Hill. 310 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: Everyone knows that he landed in a great situation. If 311 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: Mahomes landed with the Bears, he wouldn't be Mahomes, but 312 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: he'd be awesome, you know what I mean, because because 313 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: he's he's that guy, like Aaron Rodgers looked like he 314 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: was kind of stalling out at the end of Mike 315 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: McCarthy gets a little bit of new blood with Matt 316 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: Lafleur two MVPs immediately because he's awesome. He's that guy. 317 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: And so there's those guys are just in a different 318 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: stratosphere of people. And we've talked about this before, Like 319 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: to me, the Andy Reid argument of why he is 320 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: a better coach than Belichick, it's he's never going to 321 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: catch him in Super Bowls. But the number of different 322 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: quarterbacks with everybody that right that have had the best 323 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: season of their career with Andy Reid, it's literally more 324 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: than a handful. It's like Jeff Garcia's best year, Kevin 325 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: Cobbs best year, Donovan McNabb, Alex. 326 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: Smith got to a Super Bowl with Marino, David Woodley, 327 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: and Earl Morrile. 328 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, great coach, great like and so like Belichick. It 329 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: is a classic. When people talk about greatest of all time, 330 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: I honestly hate the conversation because I think that they 331 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: are talking about greatest trophy case of all time? Right, 332 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: like Tom, I am much more interested personally in the 333 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: who the best of all time? Who is the most 334 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: talented of all time? Because Great Brady is the goat 335 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: in the common nomenclature, the best winner the most trophies. 336 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: But like, is he actually more talented than Aaron Rodgers? 337 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: I actually don't think that he is, Like so I 338 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: the stouting talent of it. I don't think that he is. Yeah. 339 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: So remember Tom was drafted in Major League Baseball. Tom's 340 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: bigger athlete. He's six' five Ye aaron six to one 341 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: and a. Half he's a more committed athlete Like Lebron. 342 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: James that matters. Too i've always argued That, tom because 343 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: of the combine no shirt on, picture and Because tom's 344 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: athletic gifts were not necessarily speed and, twitchiness. 345 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: That he gets. 346 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Knocked it's LIKE i grew up With Johnny. Bench Johnny 347 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: bench was the best catcher for fifteen. 348 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: Years. 349 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: Yep watching him lumbered a second on a double was, 350 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: Comedy LIKE i mean it. Was you, know he'd been 351 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: wearing the gear on an. 352 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 3: Astro turf field for. 353 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: Years it was a hard, watch but he was, unbelievable 354 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: the best, arm the best, catcher incredibly, twitchy hit for, 355 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: power hit for Clutt there were different kinds of athletes 356 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Like Michael jordan to me does things because of his 357 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: hand size and Vertical lebron can't. Do Nor Kobe lebron 358 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: because of his, physicality can do. Things he's like a 359 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: tight end in THE nfl That michael couldn't. Do there's 360 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: different levels of. Athleticism Jahn morant has, hops but there's 361 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: quickness then their. Speed and so WHEN i look At, 362 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: brady it's always like he did get drafted by A 363 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: Major League baseball. Team and it should be noted in 364 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: the Pocket brady was the one of the great movers 365 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: of all. Time he threw the best because of his. 366 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: Torque he's incredibly strong pound for. Pounds he threw the 367 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: best snow Ball i've ever seen in my. LIFE i, 368 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: mean his ball cut Through foxborough wind and snow like no, 369 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: quarterback Including Josh, Allen i've never seen anybody throw a 370 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: ball in snow and win Like. Brady SO i always 371 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 2: think is, athleticism and SO i always Defend. Brady it 372 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: can't all be who's got the biggest, arm Because brady 373 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: had a top six or seven. Arm but he didn't 374 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: have Like mahomes Or alan or you, Know Terry bradshaw 375 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: in his. Prime they had a very good. Arm he 376 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: was drafted as a catcher In Major League, Baseball so you, 377 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: know all these conversations like we were talking about today 378 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: on the, show WHICH i think is, interesting what do 379 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: you do With Drake? May Now it's, like oh, Wait 380 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: drake maylight is like the most accurate and was number 381 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: one on deep ball, efficiency and you're, like and he's really, 382 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: athletic and what DO I Drake may is now at 383 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: Top he's won sixteen of seventeen. Games he's had like 384 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: three bad halfs in seventeen. Games SO i think a 385 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: lot of the Drafting you've noticed, this by the, way 386 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: is That Drake may's got a stacked. Roster, actually Bo 387 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: nicks has a stacked. Roster Kay Loub williams has a stack. 388 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: Ross isn't it remarkable how good you look when you've 389 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: got like eight offensive players who are? Good and by the, 390 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: Way Josh allen doesn't have a pro bowler on, defense he's. 391 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: Off he played from, behind like multiple, weeks played from. 392 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: Behind And i'm just rambling, here BUT i Guess i'm 393 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: Defending brady on. That there's this picture of the combine 394 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: that he's not. Athletic it's, like, No Jared, goff isn't that? Athletic, 395 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: YEAH i think. 396 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: And, listen that is, true and there are different kinds 397 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: of athleticism AND i am definitely guilty of. It the 398 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: Whatever brady lacks in. 399 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: The mobility off, schedule like the play breaks, down BUT 400 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: i can still make a play that Mahomes alan you 401 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: Know rogers that those guys That i'm talking, About caleb 402 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: that they can make. 403 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 3: He between the. Ears you, know it's him And peyton 404 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: right as the greatest to ever do. It and that matters. 405 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: Shitload at that. Position it's just, like, oh, well that 406 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: actually might be more valuable than. Everything And it's LIKE 407 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: i do tend to underrate like or be late to 408 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: come around on a guy Like Brock perdy who's, Like, 409 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: okay well you were limited and where you were drafted 410 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: and physical and, LIKE i don't think he's spectacular in 411 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: the situation that he's in and all, that but it's, like, 412 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: well damn, okay he keeps putting up these. Numbers there's something. 413 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: Too he's pretty. Smart he knows where to put the. 414 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: Ball And i'm not saying That Rock party And Tom 415 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: brady are the same, guy BUT i do think it's 416 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: just like it's it's a tougher trait to scout than 417 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: six four four forty rocket arm who can throw it 418 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: over a. Mountain like those things are easier to scout 419 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: than those. Guys BUT i want to HAVE i agree with, 420 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: You Tom, brady pretty successful. 421 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: Guy today's show brought to you by our presenting, sponsor 422 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: Hard Rock, Bet florida's. Sportsbook The Big game matchup is 423 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: Set Patriots. 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Stuff they 478 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: want to create. Movies not everything is a six Year 479 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: not everything's goodwill. Hunting will you write it and rewrite 480 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: it and rewrite? It and so my takeaway is defending 481 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: The steelers was, well if you're not gonna Get John 482 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: harbaugh And Kevin stefanski he was with The, browns he's 483 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: not of. You could it not be argued McCarthy's a. 484 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: B i mean you're not taking a. Risk he had 485 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: the number four offense With Cooper rush starting five games 486 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: and one receiver In Ceedee lamb at one point In. 487 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: Dallas is that. 488 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: In the, Media i'm guilty of. This i'm looking for, 489 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: flashy fun and. Inspiring so when it comes in a little. 490 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: Flat my soda is a little. Flat i'm, like do 491 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: you got to bottle the gun the club. 492 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: Sold in the? 493 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: Gun it's not bubbly enough for, me AND i kind 494 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: of feel like it's actually probably A b plus higher 495 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: And i'm being too hard on, it SO i. 496 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: LISTEN i haven't Liked mike McCarthy since the twenty FOURTEEN 497 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: Nfc championship. Game it's the worst coach Game i've ever, 498 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: seen So i've held it against, them and kicking field 499 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: goals from the one yard, line giving the ball To 500 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: Eddie lacy instead Of Aaron. Rodgers blowing a sixteen point 501 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: lead in the fourth, quarters it's just more. Bad it's 502 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: one of the it's what it's. LIKE i think it's 503 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: the worst coach to managed game. Ever i'm open to 504 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: the possibility That i'm a little harsh on. IT i 505 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: do think only one ring With rogers for the vast 506 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: majority of his prime is. UNDERACHIEVING i do think, that you, 507 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: know the six and nine records since The Super bowl 508 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: in the playoffs is. Uninspiring some losses as a big 509 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: favorite in the playoffs are. Uninspiring the Game Dallas Green, 510 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: bay a couple of years ago Against Jordan love notably 511 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: comes to. MIND i, THOUGHT i AND i just it 512 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: felt like Offensive Mike, tomlin high, floor low, ceiling underachieves 513 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: in the. Playoffs that's WHAT i, said the offensive version Of. Tomlin, yeah, 514 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: Okay and so we were completely, aligned AND i just 515 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: don't get, why in this exact moment for, them that's 516 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: what they would. Want the last time The steelers had 517 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: a losing, record they Drafted Ben. Roethlisberger the next, year 518 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: they won fifteen. Games two years later they won The 519 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: Super bowl nineteen sixty. Nine famous they're one and, thirteen 520 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: tied with The bears for the worst record in THE, 521 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 3: nfl win a coin flip for the rights to Draft Terry. 522 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: Bradshaw five years, later they start the greatest run arguably 523 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: in football, history win four of Six Super. Bowls, like 524 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: what is the possible value with an old roster that's, 525 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: expensive that's. Defensive weid in to try to entice forty 526 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: two year Old Aaron rodgers to get the bands back 527 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 3: together with a guy he underachieved with in his, prime 528 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: to grind out another nine or ten win season and 529 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: a first round playoff. Exit when to, me you know 530 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: better THAN i do everyone's saying next year's quarterback class 531 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: is the quarterback class you want a lottery ticket. IN 532 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: i would be very interested in young coach with, upside 533 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: Trading Jalen, ramsey TRADING Tj, watt being Playing Will, howard 534 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: like being bad by design and bottoming out for like 535 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: taking some draft capital so that you can move around 536 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: with whatever you get For wad And ramsey and other 537 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: guys being bad this year and taking your shot a 538 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: young quarterback next. Year And mike McCarthy's just not going 539 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: to do. That it's just, like because he, is to 540 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: your point a be he's too. Good he's gonna grind 541 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 3: out depending on what you do at quarterback seven to eleven. 542 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: Wins AND i just there is value in being. Bad 543 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: no one wants to hear, it no one likes, it 544 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: and In pittsburgh it's apparently like the worst thing you 545 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: could possibly. Utter but there is real value in being 546 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: bad for a. Year AND i know you can miss 547 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: out on a top five, quarterback but it's the only 548 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: way to get an elite prospect at the. Position AND 549 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: i just think now is so clearly the time for 550 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: them to do. It CAN i throw? This it's not a. 551 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: Theory it's ALL i love, GEOGRAPHY i love, MAPS i study. 552 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Cities i'm weird that. 553 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: WAY i like that. 554 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: Stuff, Right So pittsburgh is very unique and that it 555 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: doesn't really have a. Region so Out IF i Say, 556 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: west you're. 557 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: Like, Seattle San, Francisco Los. 558 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: Angeles IF i say The Rocky, mountains you're Like. Denver 559 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: IF i say The, midwest you're Like. Chicago IF i 560 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: say The, east you're Like, Philly, boston D. 561 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: C New. York pittsburgh. 562 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: Stuck they don't really have a, region and there is 563 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: a certain low self esteem that never being bad because they're. 564 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: Overlooked they're they're they're they're. Overlooked cleveland has a little 565 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: bit of. This what Is? CLEVELAND i, mean if you 566 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: ask some people in this, country what time zone Is pittsburgh, 567 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: in people are, like if you go to The, South 568 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: nashville's the cool, City atlanta's the big. City in the, 569 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: plains It's, dallas in in in the Desert, Southwest, scottsdale It's, Phoenix. 570 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: Vegas they don't really own, anything and so it's it's 571 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: they suffer from a little bit of that sort of 572 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: they've they've been, overlooked they don't they're. NOT i, Mean 573 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: philadelphia still can say we we win more Than New 574 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: york And boston as we have greater, history And New 575 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: york were richer AND dc were more, powerful And pittsburgh 576 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: and we Put french fries on our. Sandwiches we It's 577 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: and SO i do feel there's this thing like we 578 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: don't want about them. Out we because our ceilings, limited 579 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: Don't we don't want to bottom, Out and they've always 580 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: sort of had this we don't want to be, Terrible 581 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: like that's just something that you could just talk anybody 582 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: in like, LIKE i don't, Know i've always felt Like 583 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: pittsburgh AND i don't, Know i've been To pittsburgh. Twice 584 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: i've always felt it's one of those cities that kind 585 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: of feels. Overlooked that's why it's almost absurdly prideful that 586 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: they would hire A pittsburgh, guy because nobody Loves pittsburgh 587 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: Like pittsburgh and they're incredibly prideful and that's a wonderful. 588 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: Thing does that make any? Sense, yeah it was an 589 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: some of, it like the low self esteem. PART i 590 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: Think pittsburgh people would push back on, sure because they 591 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: would see it as just. Pride they love. It they're 592 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 3: so they're so, proud, right they're they're yensers and and, 593 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: LISTEN i, MEAN i have a dear friend Who Andrew, 594 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: philippony who crushes, it and his afternoon's there and has 595 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: that opportunities to bigger. Cities he's, great and he, says you, 596 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: know he's, like, like you, know he's A New york, 597 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: area upstate, guy but he's, LIKE i moved, HERE i 598 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 3: met a, girl fell in. Love big, fish small, pound crushes. 599 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: It go and visit. Him good cost of, living improving food. 600 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: Scene wild about their, sports he's wildly. Happy he has 601 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: a great time. There he was just in town this 602 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: weekend for his fortieth In New. York but it's just. 603 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: There they love their sports so. Much but what's weird 604 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: about the football team is they, SAY i, MEAN i 605 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: watched the Whole mike McCarthy press. Conference they we got 606 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: to get that seventh, trophy you, Know Mike tomin the 607 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: standard is the. Standard they talk about excellence and they 608 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 3: talk about, this and they talk about the Seventh, trophy 609 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: but their actions are what you're talking. About their, Actions 610 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 3: LIKE i Had Willie, CLONE i sit next to him 611 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: every day on first things versus the ot AND i 612 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: run this theory by. Him i'm, like they should be 613 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: bad this, year like by. Design he's like, that, well 614 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 3: no one will go for it like we had. Been 615 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: he booked To Ben roethlisberger FOR us. Today he's, like 616 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: rebuild is a it's a swear word Amongst. Ollers he's, 617 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 3: LIKE i talk about build like you can't even say. 618 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: Rebuild and THAT i think part of it Is Mike 619 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: tomlin's identity came into that FAN i, mean he's there 620 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: for nineteen, years never has a losing. Season it's the 621 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: first thing that people say about, Him so it becomes 622 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: kind of the identity of the fan. Base but like 623 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: it's that's not that. Valuable if you don't win in the, 624 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: playoffs it's not valuable at. All it's quicksand right because 625 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: like it's, there well because, well some people would say 626 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: the goal is get into the tournament and then take your, 627 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 3: chances but that's more of a baseball argument because of you, 628 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: know one hundred and sixty two games and then you 629 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: play best of. Five worst team can beat the better. 630 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: Team football's all single. Elimination so if you get in 631 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: as a wild card team with the worst quarterback and 632 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: have to play on the, road you're probably gonna, lose 633 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: yeah and. Badly, Yeah and then like turn around and be, 634 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: LIKE i guess we gotta Draft Kenny, pickett like you, 635 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: know and and he was from From, pittsburgh like went 636 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: to Pitt and SO i think that that, part, like, 637 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 3: YEAH i could not care less That, mike That mike 638 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 3: McCarthy is a, yinser like that that would just qualify, 639 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 3: him like if like if that's one of the first 640 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: things people say about it's, like, yeah he grew up 641 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: A steelers, Fan like that doesn't mean, Anything like that's 642 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 3: just like it's that is not that's not gonna help 643 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 3: you win. Games SO i personally hated the, hire but like, 644 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: you it is partly media bized easier to, say BUT 645 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: i would be fine risking the strikeout to take the 646 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: swing on the home. Run AND i just Think mike 647 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: McCarthy is such a safe Single and especially at this 648 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 3: like exact moment in time with the, draft with no 649 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: quarterback option in house With Aaron rodgers at forty two years, 650 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: old The steelers should try to be the worst team 651 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: in football next. Year that's what they should try to. 652 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 3: Do can't say it, publicly just do, it but do 653 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: it through your. Actions try to be the worst team in, 654 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: football and there's no way you will be With mike. 655 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: McCarthy so As i'm watching The bulls And lebron's the 656 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: best player on the floor for the first quarter and 657 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: then the second best player for the rest of, it 658 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: and he's in his, forties AND i sat there AND 659 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: i thought it reminded me Of. Brady oh, yeah When 660 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: brady quit, retired it's not because he wasn't. Great he 661 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: was still a top five or six. Quarterback in, FACT 662 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: i would argue until maybe a year or two, ago 663 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: he still would have been a top ten. Quarterback he 664 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: quit because of some personal. Stuff OTHERWISE i Think tom 665 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: would have just kept. Playing And i'm Watching, lebron who 666 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: physically can still bully his way to eighteen points. Easily 667 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: he's JUST i, mean if you've ever been next To, 668 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: LEBRON i have multiple. Times he is so big and so, 669 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: strong and this league is young and skinny And, european 670 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: and he can just literally because he's such a great ball. 671 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: Handler he's a nineteen eighties power forward who dribbles like 672 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: a point. Guard so he can speak of. Nature he's 673 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: okay with the greatest athlete ever. Produced it's just. Ridiculous. 674 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah so he could play for another five years and 675 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: average at least sixteen a. Game And i've said this 676 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 2: before to my. WIFE i can talk Until i'm eighty 677 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 2: and make really good. Money at some, point vanity takes 678 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: over AND i will want to, protect. DON'T i don't 679 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: want to be on the air and, LITERALLY i MEAN 680 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: i NEED q. Cards my teeth are falling. Out my 681 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: prostate comes right down my right leg onto the, Floor 682 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 2: LIKE i don't want that to. 683 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 3: Happen. 684 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: Graphic, Yeah so my point being, is you do start 685 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: protecting your. Legacy BUT i think it's harder than people think. 686 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: That i'm Watching lebron And i'm, like he's in the. 687 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: Arena he's the most popular player in the. ARENA i 688 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: mean like flash. Bulls oh, yeah he's. Everywhere he's the 689 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: best player on the floor for portions of the game 690 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: in the first. 691 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: Half, LEBRON i love you throw this throw. 692 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: THAT i think it's a lot harder to retire for 693 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: The brady's and The. Lebron it's easy for me to, say, 694 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: bro hang it. 695 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 3: Up i'm at that. 696 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: Game i'm watching. It these are pro, athletes they're young and. 697 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: Twitchy he's better than all of them Except. 698 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: Luca yeah, Yeah AND i, mean and this is like very. 699 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: Reductive AND i have stood next To lebron a couple, 700 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: times BUT i do not know him at. All he loves, 701 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 3: basketball like he's, like oh, MAN i am now the, 702 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: Whatever let's call him the seventeenth best player in the, 703 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 3: league just to pick a random number that that's probably. Close, 704 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: yeah but like but maybe he would hear that and 705 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: think that that's. INSULTING i have no. Idea last year 706 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 3: he was sixth IN mvp, voting so he's seen sixth 707 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 3: and twenty, fifth right? Whatever HE i, mean he was 708 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 3: STILL i don't know If TEAM usa wins the gold 709 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: medal Without Lebron james at the twenty twenty Four, Olympics 710 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: like he is still, awesome and he loved, basketball and 711 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 3: you get paid fifty million dollars to play the, game 712 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: plus it is the springboard for everything else in your. 713 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: LIFE i don't know, why why why why? Quit like why? 714 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: QUIT i don't really see any reason to do. It 715 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: like people are LIKE i wonder If Matt stafford is 716 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: going to come, Back AND i know he talked about 717 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: retirement last. Year he just led the league in touchdowns and. Yards, 718 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 3: well at least with him he gets. Tackled, yeah, sure, 719 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: yeah THAT i, could, sure, Absolutely but by the, way 720 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 3: it's reasonable to say uncle and stop at any. Point 721 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: you don't want to do the, travel you don't want 722 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 3: to do the, media you don't want to do the ice, 723 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 3: bats you don't want to you. 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Spots defensive, line 766 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: they're a little. Older you, Know Stefan diggs is a little. 767 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 2: Older that they're a Little vraabels been here, Before josh 768 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: McDaniels has been here multiple. Times THAT i think if 769 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: there was a team that would be a little, tight 770 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 2: it would be the younger first time For, Darnold mike, McDonnell. 771 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 3: It would be it would be The. 772 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 2: Seahawks the other thing THAT i think is absolutely, true 773 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: and you saw this With miami And indiana in The, 774 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 2: natty when you tell young athletes you may get blown. 775 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Out miami's first two series Against, indiana they literally bloodied 776 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: the lip Of. Mendoza they were like late hits after the. 777 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: Witch it was so Clear Mario cristobal had, said nobody respects. 778 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: You they played angry for about a half hour and 779 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: eventually we're kind of won the war in the. Trenches 780 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: But mendoza made the. Plays AND i look at this 781 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: AND i, THINK i THINK i may Pick New england to. 782 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: Win less pressure won sixteen of. Seventeen older team really 783 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: get you're really playing the underdog as. Such remember The 784 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: dynasty started With brady being a fourteen point dog to 785 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: the team that everybody. Loved everybody Wants seattle to, Win 786 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 2: so there's that kind of there's. 787 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 3: A little bit of a pressure on. 788 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 2: Sale you're the favorite and you're the popular, team and 789 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: you look like not only a, favorite you're really. 790 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 3: More you are more. 791 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 2: Athletic if you put in the tape of, both one 792 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 2: is just wow and one is what they're really. EFFICIENT 793 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: i really, THINK i really Think New england's going to 794 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: be trouble For. 795 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: Seattle, listen you know it opened at three and a, 796 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: half and you know it went up to four and 797 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 3: a half and maybe it'll hit five by by by game. 798 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: TIME i Bet seattle. IMMEDIATELY i bet it as soon 799 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 3: As Championship sunday ended at three and a half and 800 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 3: so GOT i got the good. NUMBER i think that 801 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: they are better top to, bottom AND i, think, YES 802 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: i think they're better top to, bottom AND i think 803 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: that they are more. Tested like they came through THE Nfc, 804 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: west They New england came through this crazy easy schedule 805 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: in THE Afc. East AND i Think New england loses 806 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 3: if Bon nick doesn't break his, ankle AND i Think 807 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 3: New england maybe loses To houston IF. Cj stroud doesn't 808 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 3: play the worst football game anyone's played in. Town like, 809 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 3: SO i personally that is not to say THAT i 810 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: think that they are a. FLUKE i would buy all of. 811 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: THIS i Loved Drake may coming out Of North. Carolina 812 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 3: WHEN i first saw him play a game Against, DUKE 813 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 3: i argued On Chicago, radio is Like caleb's the, guy 814 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 3: but the debate should Be Caleber, drake Not Caleber. Jaden 815 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 3: LIKE i Love Drake, may think you'll be a. Star 816 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 3: this is not an Anti hymn thing at. ALL i 817 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 3: just personally think that they a lot of things have 818 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 3: happened where they, are like the team that is a 819 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 3: year or two early that woke up in The Super. 820 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: Bowl just they do feel like they're a draft away 821 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: from being. Final seattle is ready to. Go they In New. 822 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 2: England their offensive line is a still a major work in, progress, Correct. 823 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 3: And SO i JUST i think that this is which is, 824 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 3: like it's a very Unfair If i'm A patriot fan 825 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: listening to, This i'm, like, well screw, you, Man, like 826 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 3: that's like an unfair thing to, say because we are 827 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 3: in The Super. Bowl but, again it just a lot 828 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: of things broke your. Way that. Happens it's single elimination, 829 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 3: football it's pro. Sports but, like you played the easiest. 830 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: Schedule you had a path to the Super bowl that 831 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: was difficult in terms of the caliber of defenses you. 832 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 3: Played and by the, way your quarterback did struggle against those, 833 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 3: defenses he kept fumbling a. Lot he has six fumbles 834 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 3: in the, playoffs three, lost three. RECOVERED i, like it's 835 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 3: just you're a little fortunate to be. Here WHEREAS i 836 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 3: Think seattle all, year number one in, blowouts number one 837 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 3: in point, differential only team that finished top three offense 838 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: and top three, defense blew Out San francisco in the 839 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 3: first playoff, game like they have just been you, know 840 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 3: go wire to wire with The rams again in another 841 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 3: week sixteen thirty, eight to thirty Seven Heavyweight Fight, classic 842 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: The Championship game against The rams thirty one to twenty 843 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: Seven Championship Fight. Classic like they are more battle tested 844 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 3: and they have more impressive blowout margin of. Victory, oh 845 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 3: we are in a different class review games Than New 846 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: england has had this. Year So i'm with the, favorites 847 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 3: and it looks Like i'm with the. Public the concern for, 848 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 3: me like when you're talking about like soft factors and 849 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: confidence Is Sam donald went from we don't trust you 850 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 3: at all in any big games. Too oh, wow good for. 851 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 3: You you just had the best game of your life in 852 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 3: the biggest game of your, life and now for two 853 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 3: weeks that's all. Anyway he's, like, well, say you can't 854 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 3: Doubt Sam. Donald can't Doubt Sam donald, Anymore Sam, donald 855 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 3: and like throw a first quarter interception and you, know 856 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 3: all of a, sudden Like i'd be a little concerned about. That, 857 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 3: Again BUT i do Think seattle is the better, team 858 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: AND i think a lot of stars have, Aligned Like 859 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 3: New england to me feels like they should have made 860 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 3: it to the divisional round of the. Playoffs, yeah and 861 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 3: they're in the Super, bowl so, hey they can win. It, no, 862 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: doubt BUT i still Think seattle. Is like you play 863 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 3: this game ten, TIMES i Think seattle wins seven of. Them, 864 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 3: YEAH i do, TOO i do. Too i'm Just i'm you, know, 865 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: again it's really. Early but if the number goes to, 866 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 3: Five i'm, like that's a lot of. Points that's a. Lot, yeah, 867 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 3: yeah it, is it. Is it is a lot of. 868 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: POINTS i Asked Albert breer, TODAY i Said Tom brady 869 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: was available on the market in twenty. Twenty was it twenty? Twenty, 870 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 2: YEAH i was twenty, twenty wasn't. It you mean Before, 871 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: Tampa right Before tampa he was on the market for the. 872 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 3: League, yeah, yeah, yeah. 873 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 2: And two, Teams Chargers bucks were aggressively after. It four year, 874 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 2: later four years, later he was the fifth fifth quarterback 875 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 2: still in the, League darnald was available to the, market 876 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 2: And brear's, like, Yeah minnesota And seattle were. It And i'm, 877 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 2: like the, hell trust your, Eyes Brady. Darnald you're trying 878 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 2: to make inexperienced small quarterbacks franchise. Guys and he, said 879 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 2: early evaluations die hard in this. League and so here's my. 880 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 2: Question donald wins The Super, bowl where do you put 881 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 2: him in the? League what the hell DO i do 882 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: With donald since his benching In? Carolina if you go 883 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 2: back to that year twenty twenty, two he gets benched 884 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: In carolina for the first time in his. Career november twenty, 885 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 2: seventh he gets his job. Back from that moment until, 886 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: today he is the winningest quarterback in the league percentage 887 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 2: wise and the most one hundred passing outings percentage. Wise, Like, 888 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 2: okay we've got now four teams four years he. 889 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 3: Wins The Super? Bowl what the hell do we do 890 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 3: With Sam? DARNALD i think so a couple of. THINGS 891 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: i think you it'd be very difficult to put him 892 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 3: in like tier, one like if you're gonna if it's 893 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 3: gonna be Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Stafford, burrow like if that 894 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 3: is your like your top five THAT i think most 895 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 3: people agree, on between talent and accomplishments and all. THAT 896 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 3: i think it's, very, very very difficult to. Say with one, 897 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 3: Ring stafford gets in, there even though Obviously, Lamar burrow 898 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: And josh have no. Rings but, again this goes back 899 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 3: to our earlier. Conversation it's not just about who won the. 900 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: Ring there's got to be a blend of all of. 901 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: It but THEN i think, that like it can be 902 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 3: a personal preference game between six and twelve when you 903 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 3: talk About drake May Dak, Prescott Caleb, Williams Justin Justin, 904 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 3: herbert you, know, LIKE i think, THAT i think it's 905 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 3: totally reasonable for if, he if he wins The Super 906 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 3: bowl and has a great, game for you to Put 907 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: Sam darnold into that conversation of, player which is a 908 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 3: remarkable come up from from what you're going to. See 909 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 3: and the other, thing BECAUSE i did this on the 910 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: show on The monday After Championship, sunday we you're, right 911 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 3: first Impressions. Diehard it's a good way to say, it 912 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 3: but if you actually do go back and look at, 913 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 3: it it's, like, man we labeled this kid a bust 914 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: because at twenty, one twenty, two and twenty three years, 915 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 3: old With Todd bowles And Adam, gase he wasn't able 916 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 3: to save The New york, guy, Right and then it's, like, oh, 917 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 3: well then he gets a he gets he gets to 918 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 3: go to that really, stable great quarterback factory Of Championship 919 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 3: Carolina panthers With Matt, rule and he got a year 920 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 3: before they brought in the one quarterback in his, Class 921 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 3: baker drafted in front of, him and So bay you, 922 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 3: know he plays six games and then it's back up 923 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 3: For Kyle, shanahan back up For kevin, O'Connell but fortuitous 924 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 3: injury and first time he, has first time he gets 925 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 3: to play for a real head coach with real, weapons 926 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 3: with real, weapons he wins fourteen. Games, well it's, like 927 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 3: So i've been trying to think about who is that instructive. 928 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 3: FOR i Think Daniel jones it's instructive. For and WHILE 929 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: i am not the biggest, fan AND i know you 930 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 3: probably aren't either because of. Size If I'm Kyler murray's, 931 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 3: Agent i'm, like hey, man my guy's got, talent but, 932 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 3: like can give give him? Something don't bet on the. 933 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 3: Talent like Is Deshaun watson? Done LIKE I i think 934 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 3: so obviously that brings in a different whole host of. 935 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 3: Issues but like If Sam, Donald Sam donald's twenty eight years, 936 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 3: Old if he wins his First Super bowl at twenty 937 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 3: eight and he has back to back fourteen win seasons 938 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 3: with back to back four thousand, Yards Matt stafford didn't 939 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 3: win A Super bowl till he was thirty, Four like 940 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 3: we could be talking about top ten Quarterback Sam darnold 941 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 3: for the next. Decade, well, yeah And seattle because they 942 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 3: draft so, well. 943 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: They're not paying. ANYBODY i MEAN, Jsn they're not paying 944 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 2: any of these. GUYS i Mean charles Cost a left, 945 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 2: Tackle Gray zabel's not getting. Paid most of their defense 946 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 2: isn't getting. Paid witherspoon's not getting. Paid im And maury 947 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 2: the safety's not getting. Paid Like DeMarcus lawrence has been 948 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 2: a it's like a wildly dynamic player for his. Age 949 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: but when you have a great general, manager the truth 950 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 2: is you can pay the quarterback a little more and 951 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 2: you don't have a regression on. Roster like that's the 952 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 2: problem with The. Bills they haven't drafted well enough, defensively 953 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: yeah or. 954 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 3: Period, yeah They and like there's a big difference between 955 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 3: playing paying a quarterback sixty five million and thirty five. 956 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 3: MILLION i can do the. Math it's about thirty million. 957 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: Dollars you. Know that's that's two real. Starters, like So 958 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,720 Speaker 3: Sam darnold is a bargain for because, yeah the best 959 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 3: way to do it is if you could Have drake 960 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 3: may be a superstar on a rookie. Contract but the 961 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 3: next best way to do it is to do it this. 962 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 3: Way to have top ten level, production but pay him the. 963 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 3: Whatever he is the fifteenth or eighteenth highest paid quarterback in, 964 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: football so he set up for a long, time and 965 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 3: we just we all do. It but we, oh twenty 966 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 3: two year old kid goes to dysfunctional franchise plays for three. 967 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 3: Years two years didn't save. Them you must stink like 968 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 3: for some. Guys i'm sure for some guys it's obviously. 969 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 3: True but the guys to your point who our mobile are, 970 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 3: big have a big arm like, that have all of 971 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 3: the traits and don't seem to be like complete. Knuckleheads 972 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 3: she probably not sell all of our stock in those, 973 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 3: players and SO i think, AGAIN i Think Daniel jones 974 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 3: is a pretty good example of. 975 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 2: That, finally my first winner In chicago doesn't really bother. 976 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 2: Me i've come to the conclusion if it's like twenty 977 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 2: five or, Up i'm. Fine if it's in the teams 978 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 2: and a little, windy it's, brutal but it's it's remarkable 979 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: watching the. Reaction everybody In chicago comes up to me and, 980 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 2: goes how do you like your first winner? Here And i'm, 981 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 2: LIKE i bought a. Coat i'm, Okay like it's not 982 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 2: good for. You, yeah good for. 983 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 3: YOU i heard you though ON tv when like the 984 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 3: last weekend or, whatever when it was it was a little. Cold, yeah, yeah, 985 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 3: yeah trust, me we got eighteen inches of snow out 986 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 3: here In New york and it was real. Cold so 987 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 3: like it builds, character but it's still. Cold you're still 988 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 3: allowed to say it's. Cold but that's the, Thing like 989 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: when it's, cold there's football, ON i want to be inside. 990 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 3: Anyway how did you watch football when you could be 991 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 3: golfing on the. Beach it's LIKE i, WOULD i. WOULDN'T 992 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 3: i Just i'd be inside watching football. Anyway, WELL i 993 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 3: Think i've said. This the hut levels are much higher 994 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: and lousy weather if you go To, seattle In minneapolis 995 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 3: And chicago And wisconsin And philadelphia And. Boston Jerry seinfeld 996 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 3: always used to talking about the comedy Jet. Stream it's 997 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 3: it's people read. More they get the joke faster in 998 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 3: those cold weather. Cities phoenix is not, funny it's. Obnoxious boston's, 999 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 3: funny it's. Cranky there is something to be said about 1000 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 3: the weather forces you indoors and you become more passionate. Fans, 1001 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 3: buffalo it's nothing Against. Phoenix In, houston but you can go. 1002 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: OUTSIDE i, mean it's just why stay indoors and WATCH 1003 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 2: tv in the. 1004 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 3: Spring we've talked about this in sports talk. Radio, markets 1005 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: like the places that get the highest, ratings that have 1006 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 3: the best they're all cold weather, cities all of. Them, 1007 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah like you, know the ticket In dallas gets big 1008 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 3: numbers or, whatever the total outlier like every other warm weather. 1009 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 3: City it's, like do you even care even? Care you're 1010 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 3: you're you're out playing, tennis you're out, golfing you're out 1011 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 3: like living like a, cultured well rounded. LIFE i have 1012 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 3: no time for. 1013 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 2: That and, also people that live In chicago And philly 1014 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: And seattle choose to live. Here like a lot of 1015 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 2: people live In, florida no state tax and it's good 1016 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: for your. Arthritis like not everybody loves it or the, teams. 1017 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, no, no, no no. Question. Yeah it's like 1018 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 3: you're In phoenix and you're, like is that A Charlotte hornet's? 1019 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 3: Jersey like what is what's going? On? Yeah, no we 1020 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 3: definitely we were from these places and we choose to 1021 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 3: live in these. Places so there's a tremendous amount of 1022 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 3: civic pride that comes with. It Kansas, City, Milwaukee Buffaloah 1023 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 3: god like all those places they're they're crazy about their 1024 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 3: teams and that's why that's why they're my, people all, Right, 1025 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 3: buddy that was. Fun the volume