WEBVTT - Remembering our Friend, the Great Charlie Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to have you with us wherever you are

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<v Speaker 2>around the country. And this is one of those just

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<v Speaker 2>somber shows. Senator, you and I actually have not gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to talk since the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, a

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<v Speaker 2>dear friend of both of ours. You've known him for

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<v Speaker 2>over a decade, like I have. You've broken bread with Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>We have actually done Verdict live at Turning Point events

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<v Speaker 2>down in Florida. You've spoken at other Turning Point events

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<v Speaker 2>as I have as well. I saw him not too

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<v Speaker 2>long ago and we just talked about our kids. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think about his kids, and I think about his

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<v Speaker 2>wife and this tragedy, and it makes me so sad

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<v Speaker 2>that this is where we are in this country, that

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<v Speaker 2>there are people that believe that this is the way

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<v Speaker 2>to do things. And I want to get your reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look this, I'm heartbroken. Charlie was a good friend. As

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<v Speaker 3>you noted, I've known Charlie for over a decade. I

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<v Speaker 3>met him when he was eighteen years old. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a young kid. He was coming out of Chicago. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just starting turning point. He had this vision. He

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<v Speaker 3>had this vision for energizing young people, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>as an eighteen year old, Charlie was impressive. You could

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<v Speaker 3>see how smart he was, You could see how driven

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<v Speaker 3>he was. You could see the clarity that a vision

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<v Speaker 3>that he had. He knew exactly what he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do to energize young people, and it was something that

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<v Speaker 3>when he first started talking about it, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people disbelieved him. I got to say this week, this

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<v Speaker 3>week was a really hard week. It was number one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the anniversary of nine to eleven, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is a national tragedy that you and I both both

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<v Speaker 3>lived through and lost friends in nine to eleven. But

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<v Speaker 3>then this out of nowhere watching first seeing the tweet

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<v Speaker 3>of shots fired, and then Charlie Kirk shot, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the fog of misinformation. I'll tell you, as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I saw just the tweet that he may have been shot,

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled up my phone and texted him and I

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<v Speaker 3>just just said, hey, man, are you are you okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm praying for you right now. And I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>then if he was. It's hard to tell when the

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<v Speaker 3>first tweet goes out, what the truth is and what

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<v Speaker 3>was not. I was obviously hoping maybe there'd been a

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<v Speaker 3>shot fired, but it had missed him. It wasn't clear

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<v Speaker 3>he had been hit at the time, so I was

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<v Speaker 3>really hoping i'd get a text back, yeah I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here. Obviously I did not get a response to that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I talked to Charlie just a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's I got to say, what happened. It is evil,

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<v Speaker 3>it is wrong. Just about everyone I know is really

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<v Speaker 3>shaken up by it. I will say. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>worst parts when it happened pretty quickly, the video got

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<v Speaker 3>out there on X of his being shot in the throat,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was I'm sure you've seen the video, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a graphic video and on X for me, it was

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<v Speaker 3>on AutoPlay, so like I kept seeing the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again, Like you couldn't look

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<v Speaker 3>at X without seeing it auto play. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>in my life I've ever seen a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 3>be killed. And the afternoon had happened, I watched him

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<v Speaker 3>shot and killed over and over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just screwed up. I mean, he was extraordinary and

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<v Speaker 3>he leaves a big legacy and on verdict. Today, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about that legacy. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about who Charlie Kirk was. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>what he meant to me, to you, what he meant

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<v Speaker 3>to millions across the country, and and and and what

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta say, Ben, what the hell is wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>this country that you have lunatics who say, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like what you're saying, I don't like your politics, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm going to murder you. I mean this, this

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<v Speaker 3>played out almost exactly like the attempted assassination of President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and Butler with with with a gunman with a

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<v Speaker 3>rifle on a roof. And and had President Trump had

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<v Speaker 3>had his head been two inches to the side, he

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<v Speaker 3>would have been killed that day. And and Charlie, was

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<v Speaker 3>it it it it, it's it's beyond horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a moment that I I wish I could

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<v Speaker 2>never remember. But you you, and you said it the

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<v Speaker 2>best way. It was there you saw it. You watched

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<v Speaker 2>one of your friends get gunned down, whole blooded murder,

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<v Speaker 2>assassinated in this way. And it is something that, as

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<v Speaker 2>you said, what is wrong in this country where we

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<v Speaker 2>can't have a grand debate of grand ideas, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is what Charlie's legacy was all about. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't understand that we're going to go into that

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<v Speaker 2>to one of the things that I think people don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand about Charlie Kirk, and maybe that if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>follow him well, his mission and goal was to bring

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<v Speaker 2>people actually together. If you listen to media, they act

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<v Speaker 2>like he was some extremist, fringed guy that was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to break people apart, in pound people in these these debates.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted people that disagreed with him to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with him, a grand conversation. And he started this

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<v Speaker 2>years ago by himself, with one guy recording and him

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at it at a card table at university campuses,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turned into something where three thousand people, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>showed up in Utah. It changed college campuses with turning

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<v Speaker 2>point groups that were out there, and that is his legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of I think what the big lie has

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<v Speaker 2>been is that he somehow was this aggressive, in your

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<v Speaker 2>face guy that is literally not his mission in life

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of folks in the media, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Democrats, are trying to portray him as somehow extreme. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>probably the thing that most characterized Charlie was his willingness

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<v Speaker 3>and eagerness to engage in conversation with those who disagreed

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<v Speaker 3>with them, and to engage using compassion, listening to them,

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<v Speaker 3>understanding them, treating them with dignity, treating them with respect.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something we need a whole lot more of. It's

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<v Speaker 3>something we try to do on verdict. But Charlie did

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<v Speaker 3>it every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator, you were mentioning that the media tried to turn

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<v Speaker 2>him into something he wasn't. And this is a individual,

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<v Speaker 2>a man that wanted to have a debate, and he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to fight for the hearts and minds of young people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, Charlie was. He was brilliant. Uh, he was bold

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<v Speaker 3>and courageous. It takes guts. It takes guts to go

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<v Speaker 3>on to college campuses with with screaming leftists who would

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<v Speaker 3>berate him, who would yell at him. That that takes

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<v Speaker 3>real courage. Most people are assaulting to times.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, people don't realize that he had things

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<v Speaker 2>thrown on him, drinks, things thrown at him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted countless times on college campuses, and he kept going back.

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<v Speaker 3>He was convinced that the mission was important. I still

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<v Speaker 3>remember sitting in my friend's living room with that earnest

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen year old when he talked about a vision that

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, and this is thirteen years ago, where

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of young people at the time, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>cool to be conservative. You know, Barack Obama was president,

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<v Speaker 3>he was hip, he was cool, and Charlie had a

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<v Speaker 3>vision that that that that he wanted to make it

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<v Speaker 3>cool to love liberty. He wanted to make it cool

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<v Speaker 3>to believe in the Constitution, to believe in the First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to make it cool to love your country

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<v Speaker 3>and and and that was his vision was there from

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<v Speaker 3>day one. A lot of people disbelieved him, but he

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<v Speaker 3>also he he he approached it with with a with

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<v Speaker 3>a winsome spirit. Charlie was always smiling. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one years old when he was killed. He's he's

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<v Speaker 3>a husband and a dad of two little kids and

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<v Speaker 3>his wife, Erica. His his kids are one and four

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<v Speaker 3>and and his children will never know their dad. That

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<v Speaker 3>they will know the legacy of their dad. They will

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<v Speaker 3>know how it is extraordinary he was. That they will

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<v Speaker 3>know that he touched and changed literally millions of people's lives.

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<v Speaker 3>But but this deranged gunman in one instant made it

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<v Speaker 3>that those children will never get to to have a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation and know their father growing up. He leaves behind

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<v Speaker 3>his widowed wife, and it's I will say, it is crushing,

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you. So when we heard the news

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<v Speaker 3>and we didn't know, we didn't know what his condition was,

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<v Speaker 3>and early on Fox News was reporting that he's in

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital. He's in critical condition, but he's in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were hoping he's all right. I called Heidi,

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<v Speaker 3>so Heidi knows knew Charlie very well also, and I

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<v Speaker 3>called her and she was just stunned. She was just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there staring in disbelief at the television. And actually

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<v Speaker 3>the two of us called a dear friend of ours

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<v Speaker 3>named Ali, who's whose living room we met Charlie. And

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<v Speaker 3>Ali is the one who introduced us to Charlie thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. And Ali is a strong believer, a strong Christian,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll tell you, the three of us just on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone just began praying for our friend, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were in tears, and we were praying for him, and

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<v Speaker 3>we were praying that God would save him and and

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<v Speaker 3>that that prayer did not come to pass. But we

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<v Speaker 3>were all just just in shock and disbelieve but I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say this also, when you look at all

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<v Speaker 3>of Charlie's characteristics, one that was most extraordinary was he

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<v Speaker 3>he was a deeply believing Christian. His faith was real,

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<v Speaker 3>it mattered to him. And and he was a voice

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<v Speaker 3>for the gospel and and and Charlie is is with

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus in Heaven right now, and and and his his

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<v Speaker 3>role of presenting the good news of the Gospel with

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence and joy, that was a powerful legacy. And I

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<v Speaker 3>got to say, there are very very few people in

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<v Speaker 3>particular who were doing that and and spreading the gospel

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<v Speaker 3>to young people. You have pastors and churches, but Charlie's

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<v Speaker 3>mission was reaching a whole lot of people who might

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<v Speaker 3>never go to a church. And and and that's a legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a legacy. Actually, I want to play a clip

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<v Speaker 3>of Charlie talking about how he wants to be remembered.

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<v Speaker 3>Give a listen to Charlie when he's asked that question, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be remembered?

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<v Speaker 4>If I die, everything just goes away.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you if you could be associated with one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you want to be remembered.

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<v Speaker 4>To be I want to be remembered for courage, for

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<v Speaker 4>my faith, that would be the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of you know.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't a time center on college campuses that he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't talking about as faith. In fact, I'll go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the first time I ever had breakfast. Charlie asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to have breakfast with him. We were at a

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<v Speaker 2>Sea Pack event. It was about probably thirteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>as I was doing the math and we sat down

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, hey, I know you've done a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of college speaking. I feel like we've lost this generation.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that the left owns them and they're

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<v Speaker 2>in doctoring them on our college campuses. I'm actually thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about not going to college because of this mission, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like what God put me on earth to do?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said what do you think of that? And

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at him and I smiled. I was like, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you, but you can always go back

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<v Speaker 2>to college. You can go to college at fifty or

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<v Speaker 2>sixty or seventy. What you're talking about doing is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is more important right now than you

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<v Speaker 2>going to college. And he was such a faith forward person,

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<v Speaker 2>even at eighteen years old, and it goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>what you were talking about. He lived it and you

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<v Speaker 2>knew what he believed in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he never did graduate from college, but he touched

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<v Speaker 3>enormous number of college students and changed their lives. I

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<v Speaker 3>want you to listen to Charlie on Bill Maher talking

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<v Speaker 3>about his faith, because this is really powerful. Give a listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is risen? He has risen. Indeed, Bill, why do we

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<v Speaker 1>say that in the present tense?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it is a constant truth in our life.

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<v Speaker 1>He is risen. I always noticed that that that was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me, that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a really important question.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me, well, because the fact that he has risen

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<v Speaker 4>transcends time. It's not just in the present sense, it's

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<v Speaker 4>that of all time. That promise is accessible to all

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<v Speaker 4>of us, and so it's a proclamation to all people.

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<v Speaker 4>Because if you said that he was risen, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just merely a historical event. It almost underplays the

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<v Speaker 4>metaphysics of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just always fascinated the way, really really fine intellectual

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<v Speaker 5>minds employed themselves for the purpose of arguing things that

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<v Speaker 5>are so inarguable.

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<v Speaker 6>It's almost that's almost it's almost it does because it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's almost like it it's almost like a challenge, like

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so smart that I can make this thing which

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<v Speaker 6>is so stupid it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, but you get where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to take something that is so anti intellectual,

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<v Speaker 6>even though I can argue like an intel.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever, but you have to acknowledge even the greatest minds

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<v Speaker 4>of history have been mesmerized by the scriptures. Isaac Newton,

0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Thomas aquinas well. Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy

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<v Speaker 4>than even physics. And so there's something about the scriptures

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<v Speaker 4>that are intellectual that does push your limits. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I think is so beautiful about our faith, as

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<v Speaker 4>it can be accessible to everyone but also infinitely nourishing

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<v Speaker 4>and exploration.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk spraying the Gospel to Bill Maher, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that many people can say, and he did it

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<v Speaker 2>in such a kind and respectful manner, even as Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Maher was almost mocking his belief in God.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah look, look, I mean it wasn't almost Bill was

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<v Speaker 3>mocking it. And you and I both know Bill Maher

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<v Speaker 3>he is a brilliant man in his own right. But

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<v Speaker 3>mar is not a Christian. He's an atheist, and he

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<v Speaker 3>proudly proclaims that he's an atheist and he has deep

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<v Speaker 3>skepticism of faith across the board. And Charlie went on

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<v Speaker 3>his show and talked with him, and you're right, talked

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<v Speaker 3>with him with passion, but also talked in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that was accessible. And actually the clip we just played,

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<v Speaker 3>the way I found it right now is when I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it online. I texted Charlie at the time and

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<v Speaker 3>I texted that clip back at him and I just said,

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<v Speaker 3>this was beautifully done, bravo, and it it and and

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<v Speaker 3>that was just just another day with Charlie. That that's

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<v Speaker 3>what he was doing. Every day. He was making people think.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was was also look the proposition that he

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<v Speaker 3>was defending the phrase he has risen, And Bill Maher

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<v Speaker 3>was saying, well, why is is in the present tense?

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<v Speaker 3>And and and Charlie's message is because Jesus is in

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<v Speaker 3>the prison present tense, because it is a fact today

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<v Speaker 3>in our life. It didn't happen just two thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He has risen today. And that message Charlie could deliver it.

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<v Speaker 3>There were people who were watching Bill Maher who again

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<v Speaker 3>might ever go to church, might never hear the gospel,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet that they would hear it from Charlie, and

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<v Speaker 3>they'd hear it delivered in a way that that that

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<v Speaker 3>that would make an impression. And and you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Bible talks about about planting seeds, and some seeds fall

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<v Speaker 3>on rocky soil, and some seeds fall on on on

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.280
<v Speaker 3>shallow soil. But some seeds fall on good soil, and

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<v Speaker 3>they take purpose that they take root and grow. And

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<v Speaker 3>and that's a parable Jesus tells uh uh and and

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<v Speaker 3>and what what Charlie was doing there and what he

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<v Speaker 3>did every day is planted seeds and and and many

0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.160
<v Speaker 3>of those seeds landed on on fertile ground and took root.

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<v Speaker 3>And and the number of people whose lives Charlie touched

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<v Speaker 3>we will never know, but it is easily in the millions.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that he did that was I

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<v Speaker 2>think incredible was be an advocate for families, for getting married,

0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.000
<v Speaker 2>for having children. I want to get into that, being

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<v Speaker 2>a dad, being a dad, for being a good dad,

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<v Speaker 2>being a president, dad, being there for your kids. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about that in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>the media is just not talked about. Charlie Kirk was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that was a massive advocate for getting married,

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<v Speaker 2>being equally yoked, marrying the love of your life, having

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<v Speaker 2>a good husband, being a biblically leader in the household.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He would say that to college kids, don't add garbage

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<v Speaker 2>to your life, don't be out of here partying and

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>acting a fool and doing stupid things like you can

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<v Speaker 2>do things great things now at eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one,

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to wait till you're forty to get it together.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't add baggage to your life. And I love that

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that's part of his message.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I want to read to you a text I

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<v Speaker 3>got from a good friend of mine named Dan, and

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 3>he sent me a text, and he said, I first

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.920
<v Speaker 3>met Charlie at your dear Valley retreat in October twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so impressed and taken by his vision of

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<v Speaker 3>bringing conservative values to college campuses that I was an

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 3>early funder and introduced him to many others who had

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 3>greater capacity than me. We stayed in touch. I mentored

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 3>him until his knowledge exceeded my own, and I saw

0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 3>him reshape the political balance, particularly but not exclusively, with

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<v Speaker 3>the under thirties. Looking back at his evangelism, his courage

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 3>to go to the very heart of the evil that

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 3>afflicts and brainwashes our youth and give those souls hope,

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<v Speaker 3>I am wondering this morning if he may have been

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<v Speaker 3>a saint, not in the sense he was perfect, as

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 3>none of us are but because God moved through him,

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and he was the vehicle God chose Jeremiah. Fore Then

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the word of the Lord came to me, saying, before

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I formed you in the womb, I knew you before

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<v Speaker 3>you were born. I sanctified you. I ordained you a

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<v Speaker 3>profit to the nations. Then said I, Ah, Lord, God, behold,

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 3>I cannot speak, for I am a youth. But the

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Lord said to me, do not say I am a youth.

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<v Speaker 3>For you shall go to all to whom I send you,

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 3>and whatever I command you, you shall speak. God bless

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 3>our brother in Christ, Charlie, thank you for bringing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Into his orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the sentiment that so many have had about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I said last night on Fox News Channel about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, his legacy is going to be one that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to know no bounds. I am so thankful

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 2>last time I saw him. We just talked to Mississ

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 2>earlier about his kids and my kids. I've got three boys,

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you and I know we do that. And I laughed

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 2>because I was thinking about funny moments I've had with Charlie. Charlie,

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I get people give me a hard time a lot

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 2>because I don't really drink alcohol and I got hit

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>by a drunk driver who died and we lived, and

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>it just had a major impact. Well neither did Charlie.

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 2>And so we always when he was like twenty one,

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty two, getting a little older, when we saw each

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 2>other parties, I would look at it like, you want

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>me to get your regular on ice? And he like yes,

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>And that was our joke because we would drink our

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>diet coke with a line together. And and I love

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that he was not ever given in to the pure pressure.

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>He was gonna be authentic and who he was. I

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 2>will say, I am so thankful that his children are

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 2>going to have countless hours of video of him doing

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 2>what he did. Yeah, because they're going to be able

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>to go see what their dad, who their dad was.

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:38.479
<v Speaker 2>There's so many kids that lose parents. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>videos like we have videos of Charlie where he was

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>out there spreading the gospel. He was standing up for

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<v Speaker 2>what he believed in. He was making a difference. And

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I said this last night on Fox, I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>truly don't believe Donald Trump would have been elected if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for Charlie Kirk and turning point and what

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>they did to get out the vote in swing states.

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why he was so emotional to night

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump was reelected. I don't think we'd have

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>control of the House in the Senate if it wasn't

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 2>for Charlie Kirk and what he did get out the

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 2>vote in swing states. It had a massive impact in

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>this country. And that's the reason why the President announced

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>his passing and lowered that flag to half mask, because

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Knows it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a good question. When is the last time

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you can remember that somebody's death is announced by the

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 3>sitting president of the United States. It was the President

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 3>that let America know that Charlie had passed, and the

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>President he put out on truth social quote, the great

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 3>or had the heart of the youth in the United

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 3>States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>admired by all, especially me, and now he is no

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>longer with us. Milania and my sympathies go out to

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>his beautiful wife, Erica and family. Charlie, we love you. Yeah,

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and that you're right. There's a very good argument that

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump doesn't win, maybe not in twenty sixteen, maybe

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 3>not in twenty twenty four without Charlie Kirk's incredible hard work.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 3>And I got to say, look, you and I have

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 3>been to a lot of Turning Point conferences. I've probably

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 3>spoken at a dozen of them. Yeah, this podcast has

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 3>been intertwined with Turning Point. We have done several verdicts

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 3>from Turning Point, where virtually the entire podcast is US

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>answering Q and A from the young people there. And

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 3>I got to say, the atmosphere of a Turning Point conference,

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>it's like a rock concert and you have strobe lights

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and fires, and you'll have thousands and thousands of young people,

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 3>high school kids and college kids, and there's energy and

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 3>you come out to these rock star promos and it

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>was amazing.

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And that was Charlie's vision center. I also want to

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>talk about there is a question. I'm sure you've gotten it.

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten it too, and that is what's next. This

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>is a moment where my nine year old asked me

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that I think the toughest question I've ever been asked

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 2>by him. When I put into bed last night, he

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>knew that daddy's friend had died, and he said, Daddy,

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>is someone gonna shoot you for what you do? And

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I gave him the best answer I could. I said, buddy,

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 2>you know daddy carries a gun. You know Daddy shoots back.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>And he just started crying. And I think there are

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>so many people right now that are worried about where

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>we are in this divide and this feeling that the

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>left is just wanting to take out anybody that is

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>successful in articulating conservative or Christian views. I do worry

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>about where we are as a country. I also think

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that you and I and so many others that do this,

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody that I've been texting and talking with, I don't

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>think any of us are going to back down. We

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe do things a little differently, we may take different precautions,

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think they're gonna silence any of us.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not backing down. This is my mission field. I

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 2>think you feel the same way I do.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and listen. I think Charlie inspired many people to

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 3>speak up and to be brave, to be courageous. I

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 3>think more people will be inspired. I will say his assassination,

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't just a murder, it was an assassination. Yeah,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 3>he was taken out because of who he is and

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 3>because of what he was saying, And he was taken

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>out because of fear that what he was saying was

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>so persuasive that people wanted to hear it. Look, when

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>he went to a college campus, he welcome leftists to

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>come argue with him, to present their side of the story.

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 3>But the power of the truth he was saying was

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 3>what is dangerous. And look, I gotta say, I feel

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.479
<v Speaker 3>a little bit you and I were not not alive

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>when when JFK was shot or Bobby Kennedy was shot,

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>or Martin Luther King was shot. But I do kind

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>of wonder if that's a little bit what this that

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>felt like? Just just I have to say, like seeing

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 3>this happen, particularly the parallel to President Trump's being shot

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>in Butler, that it was the same thing over and

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>over again, and it was it was almost a successful

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 3>assassination of the president, and tragically it was a successful

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 3>assassination of Charlie. Like what is going on that there

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 3>is this hate? And I got to say, by the way,

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>we have seen leftists. We saw people on MSNBC cackling.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 3>I saw an image on Twitter of this one soulless

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>young woman dancing and singing that Charlie Kirk had been

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 3>shot in the neck. I wanted to it made me

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 3>physically sick, the the the the joy at at his

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 3>being murdered. But rather than focus on that hate and

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>we we could play those clips, but you don't need

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to hear those angry haters. I want to focus, actually

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 3>on on on some people on the left that took

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>a right message, and one of them was was sank Ungiar,

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 3>who's I don't know him, but he's he's liberal.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Hardcore liberal. Yeah, he's the young he's guy.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And he put and and and he got it right,

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>So here's what he posted on x. He said a

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>while ago, I put out these rules for the Internet.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>One when we disagree, we fight. Two we have a

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 3>beer afterwards. Three when we agree, we unite. I got

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of flacks, surprisingly for the line about the beer.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 3>People would ask, oh, yeah, would you have a beer

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>with Charlie Kirk? Well I did, and I'm glad I

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>did because now I won't get to yes. Charlie and

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I disagreed a lot about really important things, but somehow

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>we didn't lose our humanity, we were still fellow Americans.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>We can all choose to hate each other, now that's

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a normal human reaction. We can choose to blame each

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 3>other and I'm sure we will endlessly. Or we can

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 3>defy the voices of division in the country and have

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 3>a beer together this time in grief. If you really

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 3>want to strike back at whoever did this, listen to

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 3>each other. Instead of hating one another. They want us

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>to hate each other. Treating one another as brothers and sisters,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.719
<v Speaker 3>as a united America would be an historic act of defiance.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Since I'm on the left, I'll go first for everyone

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 3>on the right, and most especially the Kirk family. I

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>am so sorry for your loss. I share your grief,

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>and I want you to know that our hearts are

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 3>with you. I appreciate Sank saying that I retweeted it

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 3>and just said bravo like that. I don't want to

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 3>focus on the haters, on the anger, on the rage,

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 3>on the evil bile that we see, because that was

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 3>not Charlie's message. Charlie's message was one of love. It

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>was one of liberty. It was one of the Constitution,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>it was one of the Gospel, it was one of

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 3>hope it was one of faith. That's that's where we

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 3>should focus. And I hope that that is a powerful,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>powerful legacy coming out of the thirty one short years

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>that that Charlie had on this earth.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, one of the one of the conversations that

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I had was something that was older. They called me

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, hey, I'm just checking out you

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>know your friends, And he said, you know, Ben, I'm older.

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>He said, every generation has a leader that leads them.

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>He said, you were lucky enough that you started with

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Ronald Reagan and then you got Rush Limbaugh. This next

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>generation needed a leader like no one else, and they

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>got Charlie Kirk. Yeah, and and that is a I

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>think to look at it that way and to talk

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in the sense of like who is really influenced? I

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>look with that, Russimba, I don't think you would probably

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 2>doing what you're doing right now. I certainly wouldn't be

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>doing what I'm doing right now without the inspiration of

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Ronald Reagan. I wouldn't have even known what politics was

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>and and to and to fall in love with it

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the way that you have fallen in love with that

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I have. It's our mission field, I say, that, and

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean it. I feel like God put me on

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>earth to do what I'm doing right now. I have

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>no doubt God put you on our center to do

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing right now, and God put Charlie Kirk

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>on this earth to do what he's doing. But I

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>do think he is a once in a generational leader.

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>That that is that his legacy may change this country,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>uh in ways that none of us could imagine. And

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>how many warriors for Christ, how many warriors for conservative

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>values and principles. And I think how many young people

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>on college campuses that witnessed a real life assassination in

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>an HD may be inspired to say, I'm Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, Amen. I want to close the show today by

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 3>listening to Bobby Kennedy. Right, Martin Luther King Jr. Was

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 3>shot and the message of unity that he had is

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 3>one that I hope and pray we all hear in

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 3>the wake of the tragic assassination of your friend and mine,

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the Great Charlie Kirk. Give a listen, Bobby Kennedy.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 7>Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 7>justice between fellow human beings. He died and the cause.

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Of that effort.

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<v Speaker 7>In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 7>United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 7>a nation we are in what direction we want to

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 7>move in. For those of you who are black, considering

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 7>the evidence evidently is that there were white people who

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 7>were responsible, you can be filled with bitterness and with

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 7>hatred and a desire for revenge. We can move in

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 7>that direction as a country and greater polarization black people

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 7>amongst blacks and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 7>one another. I would only say that I can also

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 7>feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 7>I had a member of my family killed, but he

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 7>was killed by a white man. But we have to

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 7>make an effort in the United States. We have to

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 7>make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 7>beyond these rather difficult times.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Make sure you pray for Charlie Kirk's family, for his kids,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 2>his wife, his in laws, as parents, all the loved

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>ones around him, his staff. Our thoughts and prayers go

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>out to them. We'll see you back here when verdict

0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>was us ender Ted Cruz all week long on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you follow us and download it. There and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you back here again real soon, God bless