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Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? And happy thanks Giving.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Chris Raybon, and this is your.

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Speaker 3: NFL Week twelve betting preview where we talk about our

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Speaker 3: favorite totals, teasers, underdogs, and of course crack open our

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Speaker 3: weekly Sunday six pack of Against the spread bets with

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Speaker 3: the help of my co host Stuckey, the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: of Deijon Nation. What's going on? Stuff?

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Speaker 2: It's got on a brother. Happy Thanksgiving everyone out there,

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Speaker 2: and yourself and to yours as well, appreciate. I'm thankful

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Speaker 2: for everyone that listens and hopefully we can keep this

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Speaker 2: year going. It was another good week. I went six

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Speaker 2: and two, but I bet I bet the Texans, so

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Speaker 2: that should count as zero to eight. So we're on

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Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving week. Let's keep it moving.

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Speaker 3: They're and Happy Thanksgiving to you too, and of course

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Speaker 3: to all the listeners. Just want to really tell you

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Speaker 3: guys that we appreciate you and you guys make this

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Speaker 3: show possible. So Happy Thanksgiving to you and your families.

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Speaker 3: Were incredibly thankful for each and every one of you,

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Speaker 3: and that you choose to spend your time right here

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Speaker 3: listening to us. So let's keep it going, and we're

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Speaker 3: going to break down each of the three Thanksgiving games.

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Speaker 3: We can also include them in the six pack for

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Speaker 3: this week, so have some fun with it.

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Speaker 4: We're on the bus ready to broadcast the traditional Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: that game. And John, as you think about all the

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Speaker 4: people around the country sitting down to enjoy Thanksgiving with

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Speaker 4: their friends and their families, we indeed have a lot

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Speaker 4: to be thankful for.

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Speaker 2: To me, there's nothing better.

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Speaker 5: There's just certain things that go together, you know, the turkey,

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Speaker 5: the family, the tradition, football, and we have it all today.

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Speaker 3: The first game up on the suite is the Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Bills staying in Detroit, nine and a half point favorites

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Speaker 3: on the road total of fifty four against the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo started slow in that game against Cleveland, so for

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Speaker 3: anyone who got an eight either way, you pushed on that,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy given how it started off.

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Speaker 1: But what'd you think of Buffalo? What do you think

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Speaker 1: of this matchup?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean, if you look at historically,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this a lot on Thursdays for Thursday

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Speaker 2: night games, our favorites have done well, and that's you know,

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Speaker 2: we think that the better team with sure preparation is

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Speaker 2: that's been the case with Thanksgiving. For whatever reason, favorites

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Speaker 2: favorite doesn't matter who favorite. I have a theory.

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Speaker 3: why favorites kind of dominate, And I haven't checked it,

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Speaker 3: reading about it, and I think it's because Detroit always

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Speaker 3: plays on Thanksgiving and Detroit is usually the underdog on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of it. I mean, favorites of seven

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Speaker 2: It's also worth that they just played in Detroit, so

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Speaker 2: which was interesting. But I do think the Buffalo has

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Speaker 2: or whatever happens. Maybe he changes the timing up of that.

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Speaker 2: But there's risk there, and there's also the risk that

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Speaker 2: it's the defense. There are major injuries, major impactful injuries

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Speaker 2: Now you're going up against a really good offensive line.

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Speaker 2: probably going the line. Nothing like starting off your dead

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll think of the same thing. I know that

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Speaker 3: sharp's hit the the Bills. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're at home.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, they have a decent offensive line, good

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Speaker 2: Eleven steps and they came out today and said you

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Speaker 2: expect more next week. Yeah, Williams, is he even the possibility?

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Speaker 1: But you know, the offense just beyond that.

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Speaker 3: these trends for the favorite Friends. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, their defense.

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Speaker 1: Like I like what they're doing with Cook. I think

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Speaker 3: But I think the Lions can hang around here, and

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Speaker 3: we've seen that every time the Lions are at home

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Speaker 3: They lost by three to the Seahawks in a game

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll probably be on the Lions as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bet some right now so you'll see

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Speaker 2: this come through that at a smaller, better time, and

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Speaker 2: then the way to see if it goes to ten

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Speaker 2: let's start off the day with some minds. And I

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Speaker 2: do think that what the Bills are doing as smart

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Speaker 2: with this run game because their run game's been so

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Speaker 2: able to like kind of save Alan right now because

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Speaker 2: he's not fully healthy. But as far as like covering

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Speaker 2: a big number in this particular game, it doesn't help

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Speaker 2: them in the short term. Indoors you want you want,

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Speaker 2: you know, old Alan dropping back and throwing forty times.

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Speaker 3: Here, This Bill's offense is not as reliable. At ten

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Speaker 3: points is a lot. So yeah, I'll be with you.

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Speaker 3: I really do think we get the I do think

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Speaker 4: I happy Thanksgiving. We got a turducking right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this thing here is a D bone duck stuffed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this team was already one of the luckiest teams

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Speaker 2: I think you probably want something I'll never get too.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point about the moneyline parlay. What I

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Speaker 3: And oddly enough, Week twelve, and you know every week

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Speaker 3: like you said, it's just after after seeing what Dallas

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the nightcap. Patriots at Vikings,

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Speaker 1: The Vikings are two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Point favorites at fandel, the official sponsor of the Action

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Speaker 3: Network podcast. The total is forty two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Some spots have this number at three, but it is

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Speaker 3: two and a half on FanDuel. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna this is like kind of a real contraritick,

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Speaker 2: I did a show earlier middle John Middlecalf his podcast.

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Speaker 2: He was asking me about this game. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: my you know, philosophy. I'm not actually playing it. I

433
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Speaker 2: just not. Some don't think the market is fully corrected

434
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Speaker 2: for the Vikings. But historically, if you play a team

435
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: that lost by thirty five the next week, yeah, you're

436
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: you're hitting a very very good percentage with that Pilo

437
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: ceht last in the NFL. But yeah, I actually liked

438
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: the over It's not a player I thought I was

439
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: gonna like once this came down to forty two. Forty

440
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: three is obviously a really key number, especially post moving

441
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: back of the extra point. Yeah, I think there's gonna

442
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: be little more points here than people think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you know, look no further than last

444
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: week in that windy game when there was no scoring,

445
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: but mac Jones was still pretty efficient. Overall. It was

446
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: twenty three of twenty seven for two forty six, So.

447
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: You look a lot better after the bye, which I think.

448
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you tend to see that with

449
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: younger quarterback especially those in a new system, which we

450
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: you know Mac Jones pretty much is because they got

451
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: Patricia in here. Yeah, I agree. I think that Belichick's

452
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 3: gonna be able to get something going here with his

453
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: Patriots off fens indoors. So I don't mind that at all.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So in between there, like just on the couch

455
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: food Coma, just get both teams to twenty and then

456
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: we're there. Well, end in the tide.

457
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Speaker 3: So that wraps it up for the Thanksgiving slate. Nowadays,

458
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Speaker 3: time for the main attraction. Let's jump in at two

459
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Speaker 3: the week twelve Sunday six pack.

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Speaker 1: Thursday for action. Let's crack open the Sunday six pack.

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Speaker 3: All right, so you gained a point on you last week.

462
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: Good week for you, forty two thirty one. Now it's

463
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: still got some work to do, but in the right direction.

464
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Speaker 3: So with the first pick of the week twelve Sunday

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Speaker 3: six Pack, presented by Fan Duel, I am going with

466
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers plus seven at the Philadelphia Eagles,

467
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna keep targeting this Eagles team. Is

468
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Speaker 3: that time of the season when you have a certain perception,

469
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Speaker 3: feel good story the Eagles. Oh my god, they're undefeated,

470
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: they're legit Super Bowl contenders. Don't get me wrong, but

471
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: no team is ever as good as it looks in

472
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: those you know, first six seven weeks of the season.

473
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Speaker 3: It's just a lot comes down to who you play

474
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: and how things go your way. And Eagles that have

475
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: been the second luckiest team according to our Action Network

476
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: luck rankings by Sean Kerner, while the Greemit Packers are

477
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: the sixth most unluckiest team. So there's a luck gap

478
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 3: here of minus twenty five and it's in favor of

479
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: the Packers and teams with a double digit what differential

480
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: have covered about fifty eight percent of the time. So

481
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: props to Kerner for the luck rankings. But you look

482
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: at this Packer team and I, you know me, I've

483
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: been pretty hesitant to bat Green Bay. I was fading

484
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: them a lot earlier in the season, just kind of

485
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: capitalizing on this sputtering offense. But you know, I know,

486
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 3: Rogers people are going to make a big deal of

487
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: the hand, but I think some things are working in

488
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: their favor. Finally, for one, you have the receivers that

489
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: he needs healthy healthy. You have Lizard, Watson and Cobb.

490
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: I think those three guys are the guys he would prefer.

491
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: I know, you know, we both like Dobbs, but he

492
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: wasn't quite wasn't quite working with him, and Dobbs especially

493
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: not as in the explosive way that it was working

494
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: with with Watson. Watson will still drop some balls, but

495
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: he just kind of has a knack for getting open

496
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: and you know, in the end zone and just kind

497
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: of being where Rogers needs him to be. And I

498
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: think Rodgers is really missing that. I mean, look what

499
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: Delontay Adams did for Dirk Carr in that Raider game.

500
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: And Philadelphia the grip Packy's gonna be able to run

501
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: the ball enough here. I know who involved Joseph and

502
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: Sue did help, but those guys are still coming off

503
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: the street. You know. I think the Philadelphia defense is

504
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: still vulnerable against the run.

505
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Speaker 1: I think Rogers is.

506
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Speaker 3: Going to be able to have some success kind of

507
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: picking a part these zones with his preferred receiver healthy,

508
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: you have the long break and Philadelphia, though they started

509
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: five and two against the spread as a favorite, which

510
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: is hard to do, keep covering as a favorite week

511
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: after week after week. So they started five and two

512
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: against the spread as a favorite, then they're playing Houston

513
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: fourteen point favorite best team in the league versus the

514
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: worst according to some people. Didn't cover that one. Next time, okay,

515
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: minus eleven against the Commanders, lost outright, and then the

516
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: next week we had them, they were the culture plus

517
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: six and a half against the Eagles. Philadelphia probably should

518
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: have lost that game. Slept walk through it struggled just

519
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: completely out of sorts, to the offense not looking as

520
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: explosive without God Her, It's just everything's a little choppier.

521
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: Jalen hurts, you know, the more he's forced to make decisions.

522
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's not always you know, he's still generally

523
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: a smart quarter wreck with the ball, but there's gonna be,

524
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 3: you know, just like there are with most quarterbacks.

525
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, some ugly moments.

526
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: And I just see the luck continuing to kind of

527
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: run out for the Eagles and reverse course, and you know,

528
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: you've talked about it. I know it didn't go your

529
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: way on a Thursday night game. I don't know what

530
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: got into Ryan Tannehill and downing and that that was

531
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: just an odd game. But I do think that the

532
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: Packers can get enough going for him in this one,

533
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: with you know, laying a touchdown here are the Eagles,

534
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: and we've seen this time after time again this year.

535
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: When you have these games with a middle, middling or

536
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: a low total and the underdog of three and a

537
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: half or more points, the dog is covering at a

538
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: seventy percent clip when the totals forty seven or below.

539
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: So you know, I just think this is too many

540
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: points for a Packers team that it's not great, but

541
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: it's competent enough, just like the Coats with Jeff Saturday

542
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: aren't great, but they were competent enough to get it

543
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: to really almost walk out of there with a victor Rogers,

544
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: you know, still not likely to turn the ball over

545
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: a ton. I know he's had some unlucky interceptions, but

546
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: I think the long rest would do him good because

547
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: he wasn't on the same page with with Watkins when

548
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: he came back. He's still him and Watson are still

549
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: developing chemistry, and though they've got a ton of touchdowns,

550
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: but I think Green Bay can do enough on offense

551
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: and they have enough on defense to continue to make

552
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: it tough on Phil and I think this is the

553
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: part of the season where if Philly's gonna keep winning,

554
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: they're going to start winning by a lot closer margins

555
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: and it's not going to be Oh, they're ripping off

556
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: you know, three four straight big numbers as a favorite.

557
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: So give me the Green Bay Packers plus seven on

558
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: the road.

559
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Packers are nothing here for me. I'll probably be

560
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: on them. I show some value in this line. You've

561
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: extended time off. I think that, yeah, Cobb being back

562
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: without Maddox in the slot, Rodgers attacking these zones could

563
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: have some success. I do think that the Eagles also

564
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: miss Coddard, as you mentioned, especially in the red zone

565
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: and then on some third downs over the middle of

566
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: the field. The only thing that concerns me is that

567
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: like I did, I do I And this is something

568
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: that I just have been pottering the past week. Is

569
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: all year Rogers. You know, his receivers, I'm getting separation.

570
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: His offensive line hasn't been given him time. The offensive

571
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: line has looked better of late, and look, they've been

572
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: so unlucky all year and fourth downs, et cetera. But

573
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: his wide receivers were finally getting open against the Tennessee

574
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: backup to corners and he was getting time, not under pressure,

575
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: and he couldn't hit an open like I've never seen

576
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: Rogers make throws like that in my entire life, Like

577
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: I just a guy running a post with no one

578
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: near him, throw it in one looks like Zach Wilson.

579
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: So is that the hand? Was it the start of

580
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: the decline? And I've just been giving him a pass

581
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: because I'm like, Ah, it's his receivers and it's his

582
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: offensive line, and like, have I not been harsh enough

583
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: on Rogers and downgraded the offense enough and just being like,

584
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: either it's unlucky though you know the receivers are going

585
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: to figure it out, you know, so we have whether

586
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: it's injury or just decline and play due to age,

587
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: which is you know, father Time is on defeld.

588
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, just having done the podcast with you, I

589
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: think you were a little slow adjusting Rogers down. I

590
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: think he is declining. I think the injury is bothering

591
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: him a little more than he's letting on. But that

592
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: being said, you know, taking all that into account, I

593
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: still think there's enough margin for error here with the

594
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: with them healthy and with what the Eagles team has

595
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: been looking like ever since that hot start, I do

596
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: think there's enough margin of error, as there has been

597
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: in most of these games. This year when you have

598
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: a a spread of for you know, more than a

599
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: field though. Really, so yeah, I don't think this is like, oh,

600
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: you know, we wouldn't be getting Aaron Rodgers is a

601
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: seven point dog if everything we're fine and dandy in

602
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: Green Bay that you know, that just it just wouldn't happen.

603
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: But I just think the way this Eagles team is playing,

604
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, this pack even on defense, you know, flip

605
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: it over. What are the Packers like to do? Their

606
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: fans hate him for this sometimes, you know, they like

607
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: to play soft zones and just kind of sit back,

608
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: and it's maddening at times, but that's kind of how

609
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 3: do you want to play against the Eagles. You know,

610
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: don't let them beat you over the top. Let Jalen

611
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: Hurts have to scan the field and dink and dunk

612
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: and you know, give a chance to them to get

613
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: a holding penalty or two. We saw that happening against

614
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: the coach, you know, just kind of play it that way.

615
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: So I just think it's it they match up well.

616
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: But you know, it was also a Thursday night. It

617
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: was just it was snowing or raining or something. I mean,

618
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: that was not the ideal conditions and you know it's

619
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: still it's still gonna be another night game. So but

620
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: I think the long rest, I think getting more chemistry

621
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: with this this group of receivers together, which is an

622
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: underrated facet with it, because the offense has been what's

623
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: holding the Packers down. You know, Rogers being able to

624
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: practice with bizarre Watson Cobb on the field, you know,

625
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: for a good you know, ten days now and coming

626
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: up with a plan to be this Eagles team that

627
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they just had an emotion that was an

628
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: emotional win for them in Indianapolis because apparently Sirianni wanted

629
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: to avenge Reich. They barely won that game, you know.

630
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: So I even though they're coming back home here, I

631
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: could be a little bit of a letdown spot for Philly.

632
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: So I think it's a good Packer spot, all right.

633
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: For my first pick any second overall of the Sunday

634
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: six Pack present by Fandel, I am going with the

635
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars plus four at home against the Baltimore Ravens.

636
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: This isn't rocket science here. The Ravens offense is struggling

637
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: right now. They're struggling to build margin they have all year.

638
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 2: It's like look, they don't have any continuity in the backfield.

639
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: You know, you had Dobbins go out, and then you

640
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: had Gus Edwards go out, and you know you're trying

641
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: to make it work with Kenyan Drake the offensive line,

642
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of moving pieces. Ronnie Stanley got

643
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: bagged up again. We'll see if he's able to go.

644
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: At least it's not season ending. And then you know,

645
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: just that wide receiver, you're pretty limited, especially with Mark

646
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: Andrews who hasn't been one hundred percent. So just a

647
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: team that's been struggling to build margin. It's also a

648
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: team that's in a stretch, a very easy stretch. They're

649
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: in a nice winning streak here against some cupcake teams.

650
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: They have the easiest stretch of remaining games in the

651
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: NFL for what it's where they have the Broncos coming

652
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: home next week. So they're like kind of just sleepwalking

653
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, and they go down to a Jacksonville

654
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: team that's been competitive all year. They've only had one loss.

655
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: They have seven losses. They have only one was by

656
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: more than one possession. That was by ten against the

657
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Chiefs in a game that where they missed a couple

658
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: of field goals, although they were outplayed, but they're coming

659
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: off of buy here with a good coach, and I

660
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: think that's important when you're gonna play the Ravens unique

661
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: offense and you know, you get some extra time to

662
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: prepare here historically worth about a half point. Think in

663
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: this case, it's worth maybe between a half and a

664
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: point with the buy. So I think this line should

665
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: be just right around a field goal. It's a decent

666
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: spot for the Jags, and their run defense has been

667
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: good and I like their run defense, which is important

668
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: against the Ravens right now. The Ravens don't have the

669
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: type of receivers and passing attack right now that's just

670
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: going to take advantage of the primary weakness of this

671
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: Jacksonville team, which is their secondary So I like to

672
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: match up the spot and the number. I think it

673
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: should just be three. My guess is this ends up

674
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: being a field goal result?

675
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know. You and I we like to joke

676
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: about players who never actually make it onto the field.

677
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Shaquill Leonard.

678
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: I feel like Deshaun Jackson needs to be added to

679
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: that list of like he wasn't even on the active roster.

680
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: He got elevated for that one game blew out his hamstring.

681
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: It's like I saw people rank him in Fantasy as

682
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: if he was on the active roster.

683
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, they didn't elevate.

684
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: It mean not on the roster. You got it. You

685
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: know your offense is at out of sorts. When when

686
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Robinson gets in a one hundred yard game on volume,

687
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's one thing if Mahome just hits him

688
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: with a bomb and you know, but he's out there

689
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: operating as your number one receiver. I thought that game

690
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: got like blacked out or can't or there's a power

691
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: out or something because I just didn't see it on

692
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: red zone. Baltimore Carolina for pretty much three hours. You know,

693
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: Baltimore is just like, it's a good way to put it.

694
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: They're kind of sweet walking. I will have more on

695
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: this game a little later on, so let's keep it moving.

696
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: With my second pick and the third overall of the week,

697
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: number twelve Sunday six pack, I am going with the

698
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers plus two and a half at home against

699
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos. And I'm not going to shy away

700
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: from these two and a half. Did it with the

701
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: Raiders last week and won. And behold this Bronco team.

702
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: You said it.

703
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: Every game is the exact same thing. The Broncos probably get.

704
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 3: They might score the first touchdown of the game, it'll

705
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: be their only touchdown. They attack on a bunch of

706
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: field goals, the margin of error will get lower and

707
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: lower as the game progresses. And a team that everyone

708
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: thinks is just completely packed at it and has no chance,

709
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: like the Panthers, who again didn't do anything against the

710
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: Ravens defense last week, I think they hang around and

711
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: I think they win this game.

712
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: I think that's why this number is two and a half.

713
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: It hasn't gone to three, because I think the Panthers

714
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: are alive. Doug in this spot at home, you're getting

715
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's here, which I actually think is a positive.

716
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: As you know, I've refused to bet on Baker Mayfield

717
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: with this team. He just he just MUCKs up the offense.

718
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: I can't put it any better than that. Yes, well,

719
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: so okay, so here's the thing with Sam Donald. For example,

720
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: let's let's go back to when you first came on

721
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: the Panthers. You know, everyone's like, oh my god, Sam

722
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: Donald is the worst quarterback. You know Justin and I

723
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: would say that right. But like most backup quarterbacks, you

724
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: can have success for few weeks and then you get

725
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: figured out. Like you always talk about Kyle Allen Cooper Rush.

726
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: There's another one. Well, Sam Donald won his first three

727
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 3: games with the Carolina Panthers against similarly you know, inept

728
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: competition in terms of not being able to score. They

729
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: beat the Jets, the Saints, and the Houston Texans. By

730
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: the way, this Bronco team, the reason I'm targeting them

731
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: is because I don't believe that they can put together

732
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: competent offense. And look at them, so the Broncos have

733
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: scored sixteen or fewer points in all but two games

734
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: this season. I went back and looked at Sam donald

735
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: starts with the Panthers. He cleared seventeen points in seven

736
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: of eleven. So I just don't think this offense is

737
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: going to look as bad as it did under Mayfield,

738
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: who he couldn't do He couldn't do anything from a

739
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 3: queen pocket, he couldn't do anything under pressure. He looked

740
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: considerably worse than PJ. Walker, who is actually the third string.

741
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: So I'm of the belief that this Carolina team is

742
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: more like a average to slightly below average team. I

743
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: mean they have talent on the team on both sides

744
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: of the ball. You know, the offensive line is quietly

745
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: pretty decent. I think they had a Baker Mayfield issue

746
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: because they were just starting to show signs of life.

747
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, covered a few with them. They had the

748
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: one really bad game against the Bengals.

749
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: But just starting to show signs of life and then

750
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: Mayfield comes back in and it all goes to shit.

751
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: So you know, they have no tape really on this

752
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: offense with Donald this year. Matt Ruhle is gone, so

753
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: you're not combining Matt rue with Donald. I like the

754
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: Panthers in this spot. I think they're able to put

755
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: up enough point to buy the way. This Bronco defense,

756
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: which you know they hang their hat on, it's not

757
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: the same defense we talked about this with, you know

758
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 3: last week. It's they don't have Gregory, they don't have Chubb,

759
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: they don't have Darby, they don't have Williams, they don't

760
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: have Sterns. You know, there's more guys I'm missing on

761
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: the second level. This defense has its has a few

762
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: guys that got Sir ten, but it's not the same defense.

763
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: Simmons is not playing well this year. It's not the

764
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: same defense. And then on offense, the Broncos still have

765
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: half of their offensive line, and I are they ain't

766
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: coming back your center, you left tackle Garrett Bowles. I

767
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: mean this is you know, everyone said, oh Kubiak Russ

768
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: looked a little better, he's completeing in a higher percentage. Yeah,

769
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: the Raiders are thirty second in defensive DVAA, They're dead

770
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: last against the pass, and the Broncos managed to score

771
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: sixteen points. So I'm not sweating Carolina, you know, coming

772
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: off a game where they were held essentially with no scoring.

773
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: You want to back teams in that kind of spot.

774
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: So I like the unknown with Donald. I like the

775
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: fact that rules gone. I like that Donald actually started

776
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: out well with Carolina last year and then once team

777
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: started to figure you know, get the tape more tape,

778
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: that's when it went downhill. And I think this Denver

779
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: team they can hand you a cover. I mean Russell

780
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: Wilson throwing incomplete last week with after the two minute warning.

781
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: By the way, Denver took a penalty on a second

782
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: and seventeen, it would have sack would have made it

783
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: second and seventeen.

784
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: They take the first and twenty three yards.

785
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: Are you kidding him? Like this Denver team is ine.

786
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: Hack is just grasping at straws. Russell Wilson has no awareness.

787
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what is up with russ Like he

788
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: literally has no awareness. I don't I'm not worried about

789
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: Donald at all. Give me the Panthers here plus two

790
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: and a half because I think they win the game

791
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: of cross.

792
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: I want that Donald. Actually there's a downgrade Baker to Donald.

793
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: But I will be teasing the Panthers a teaser for

794
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: the later segment because every Broncos game is a script.

795
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna win, but someone will win

796
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: by three. It'll be like thirteen ten with two to go.

797
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: This total is at thirty six and a half. There

798
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: hasn't been a total that closed below thirty five in

799
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: the past ten seasons the NFL. Maybe this is the

800
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: one we will say if Denver can get a little

801
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: boost from a play caller to change. I don't know,

802
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: can't get last week. I know, I'm just saying like

803
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: over time, like they.

804
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Think against the worst defense in the league, it wasn't

805
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: the play call and it was they just play stupid Like.

806
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: I know I've just said. Over time, we will see

807
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: that's one data point. It can't get It can't be

808
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: worse than a hacking call. What an incompetent staff thought.

809
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: They had a hire guy from out of like to

810
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: do the game management. They had hire a next race

811
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: at it, an offensive minded coach and an offensive coordinator,

812
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: but neither of them call plays. Now it's the quarterback

813
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: coach that called so. But the Panthers are also a

814
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: disaster too so. But this is the script stretch, so

815
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 2: I don't mind it, but I'm just saying it's I'm

816
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: just gonna tease it.

817
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: That's fair, all right.

818
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: For my second pick and the fourth overall of the

819
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: Sunday six pack, I'm going with the New York Football

820
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Jets minus four and a half at home against Chicago Bears.

821
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: We're recording this early in the week. Here's my premise.

822
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you can't let Zach Will go on

823
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: the field again, and if they do, I'm assuming he

824
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: will have the quickest leash of all time. So he's

825
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: either gonna be like all right, semi officiers, He's playing

826
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: against one of the worst pass defenses and defenses overall

827
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL. But I assume he's getting benched and

828
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna go Flacco here or White. I don't care

829
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: who it is. It's gonna be better than Zach Wilson. Mainly,

830
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: not only for the upgrade and the guy who can

831
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: at least just complete passes in the flat, but also

832
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: just for the locker room. Not only did they average

833
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: two and a half inches per play in the second

834
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: half two total yards. He didn't take accountability for it,

835
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: and he was arrogant about it. And it was the

836
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: easiest question to answer. Did you let your defense down?

837
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: You say, of course, yeah, we Offen's got to be better. Easy, easy,

838
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: he said, no, Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like

839
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: that is you're a rookie making all this money and

840
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: you're shitting the bed for a defense that's balling out

841
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: every week. And that's your response, And like you have

842
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: guys like there's mumblings out there, Garrett Wilson like this

843
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: can't have and in some of the throws he missed,

844
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: but just for the locker room alone. So I think

845
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: they make the change. If they don't, I promise you

846
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: the New York crowd will make them make the change

847
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: if they weren't planning on it right away. But I

848
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: think he has a short leash. I also so I

849
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: think that this line's gonna go up. I think if

850
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: they make the change. I also think that the Bears

851
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: aren't going to play justin Fields. Rumblings out that there could

852
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: be season ending but this has been a dream. If

853
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: you're a Bears fan, this has been a dream past month.

854
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: Like you had a good you know, losing Rockcock Smith hurt,

855
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: you got some more giraft capital. You're losing close games,

856
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: but seeing that Fields all the improvement with Fields, like

857
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: you don't want to win these games, like you're not

858
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: doing anything this year. So they've already seen what they

859
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: needed to say from Fields. And he also is hurt,

860
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: he's pagged up, he's been getting hit all over the place.

861
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: But now it's just get your best draft pick possible.

862
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: You've already seen that Fields can be your franchise quarterback.

863
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: Now you've got to build the rest of your roster up.

864
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: And this roster right now without Fields is especially because

865
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a quarterback in the that doesn't mobility

866
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: like Fields. Byd a really bad offensive line against the

867
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: defense that can get pressure with upolitzing and can lock

868
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: up any one of the Bears receivers on the outside.

869
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't have the Bears score like I doesneed Flacco

870
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: or White. I don't care who it is to come

871
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: in complete, like eight passes to the flats, run it

872
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: a little bit, go up, get to six, get to

873
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: fourteen points against his bad Bears d should be enough.

874
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: This little speculative bet on my part, But I think

875
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: if fields will be out and I think that I'm

876
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: either gonna get good Zach like not good but just

877
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: like competent Zach Wilson like in the Bills game. We're

878
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: just completes like little passes, or I'll not get him

879
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: at all, or I'll get him pulled if he's not good.

880
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: So like if he starts, I think that he's either

881
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: gonna be okay enough or as soon as he does

882
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: something one thing bad, he's done. Shortleh. But my personal opinion,

883
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: I would not start him just for the locker room,

884
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: for his arrogance, which just speaks volumes about his leadership

885
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: ability and maybe some of the reasons why he isn't improving.

886
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is I don't think Fields goes and

887
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: I think that the Jets defense could just completely shut

888
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: down Trevor Simeon, and I don't know what the Bears

889
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 2: will do on offense.

890
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: This has the potential to be the all time greatest

891
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: moment of this podcast, because you just made fun of

892
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: me for taking points betting against the other shitty Wilson

893
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: who can't do anything right, to potentially lay points on

894
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson potentially, you know, it's not out of the question.

895
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: So this who I mean, if they actually star him,

896
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: it's gonna be funny. But I do think I don't

897
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: think that would go back to Flaco. I think it

898
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: would have to be Mike White, right, because I don't

899
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: care who. Yeah, you know, me and Sean were talking

900
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: about this. It's like, you know, because we were talking

901
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: about Tyra Konklin and now he's pretty much only had

902
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: good games with Flacow, and it's like, yeah, but you

903
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: kind of said Dack Wilson's our quarterback for better or worse.

904
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: We gotta let grow with the guy. So you know,

905
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: maybe now that you think you're in a playoff race,

906
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: you changed things. But I still don't see how you

907
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: go back to Flacco because he didn't you know, he

908
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: wasn't good either, So I think it's either Mike White

909
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: or nothing.

910
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: But I was it was way better over Flaco. Still

911
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: is more touchdown passes than Zach Wilson. Still something.

912
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: Okay, what was Zach Wilson's you know, main error here

913
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: is that he did not he failed to take accountability.

914
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: So I did have the thought that they could just

915
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: be kind of letting him roast to the media, you know,

916
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: not naming him the starter, uh, making everyone think he's

917
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: gonna get benched as a teachable moment in itself, like,

918
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: all right, you don't want to take accountability, Well, now

919
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna let's see how it feels when we put

920
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: you out to drive. You know, so that I do

921
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: worry that they're doing that and that he is gonna

922
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: he is going to actually start the game.

923
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: But you know it's he's getting pulled right away. You

924
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: can't see wide open receivers streaking down for a touchdown.

925
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: That happens again early at number one. As an organization,

926
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: howd he not pull him? You're in the playoff race

927
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: number two. You're gonna cause a riot in your stadium

928
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: if you keep this kid out here. So I anyway,

929
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: where are you going next?

930
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we just this is like already one of

931
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: my favorite moments in this old pot like just justa

932
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: that you might just just the fact that you.

933
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 6: Might have unwittingly wait points on sixty minutes to Zach

934
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 6: Wilson after all the shit that you talked about this, dude,

935
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 6: one of the funniest this could this could be the

936
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 6: start of your like a true nemesis like that, like

937
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 6: that stretcher at you kept betting against backup quarterbacks.

938
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: This has that kind of explosive potential, man. So stay tuned,

939
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: everybody leave as review tell us which Wilson bet it

940
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: is worse Saturdays two because this is this is just hilarious,

941
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: like mine season four for the Action Network podcast. All right,

942
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: I got one more pick, yeah my for my third

943
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: and final pick in the fifth overall for the week

944
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: twelve Sunday six pack presented by FanDuel, I'm going with

945
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns plus three and a half at home

946
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And this is a I

947
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: like the spot for Cleveland here because I just don't

948
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: think anyone thinks they're going to show up in this spot,

949
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: and I think they will because I think it's just

950
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: getting embarrassing what they're what's going on on defense. But

951
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: let's look at what's really Cleveland's biggest issue.

952
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, interior, uh.

953
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: You know, run defense, right, yeah, yeah, they can move

954
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: well against the Bucks. You know, like their run game

955
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: is not if you know, it's not it's not scaring anybody.

956
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: This Bucks offense bottom three in the league running the football,

957
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: and everyone says, oh, you know, Rashad White, he is

958
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 3: going to you know, spearhead this run game, Like this

959
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: is not Breeze Hall we're talking about. If you look

960
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: at the advanced metrics White versus four Nette, they're pretty

961
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: much the same. You know, yards have to contact all

962
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: that stuff. This they're there's not a massive difference between

963
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: the two. It's just it's simply the Bucks offense, the

964
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: offensive line, the interior of the offensive line. It's just

965
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: not great. And you know, we've seen what eleven weeks

966
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: into the season. Now, this is who the Bucks are.

967
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: They're just a team. They're not really gonna separate from anybody.

968
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Even when it looked like they had control against the

969
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: game against against the Seahawks, I mean they almost let

970
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: them back in.

971
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: So you know, this Browns.

972
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: Team now at home underdog game where you could you

973
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: should see win gusts regardless up to twenty five miles

974
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: per hour, but you could also see some rain.

975
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: I think the team with the.

976
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: Better run game he had, the Browns has a little

977
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: bit of an advantage. And you talked about it. We've

978
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: seen it. This Browns team never really out of a

979
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 3: cover because they can put up points running or throwing

980
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: the ball like it used to be that you got

981
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: to be really careful with the Browns because is uh,

982
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: you know if if if they got behind, they just

983
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: couldn't do anything. Well, this offense to Cooper People's jones,

984
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: you got na joke who healthy perset just seems to

985
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, swiping Slider's way out of pressure and and

986
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: you know out of the pocket, he doesn't make a hundred.

987
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: You have to turn the ball over a ton either,

988
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: So back door if they need it, is a possibility.

989
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that you know, this team,

990
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: the defense is pissed. You know, Miles Garrett's calling out

991
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 3: as teammates. I think they're gonna I think they're gonna

992
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: go really hard in this game because you know, what

993
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: is it the last game before Watson too.

994
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think they're gonna go really hard.

995
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: I think they I think it's been an embarrassing smit

996
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: for them, So I think you're gonna get a great

997
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: effort out of them. I think, you know, the leaders

998
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: are gonna kind of hold guys accountable. And I think

999
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna see this Bucks team. I mean, it kind

1000
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: of reminds me of that spot against Carolina where it's like, oh,

1001
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: you know, new coach, team can't do anything and in

1002
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: the Bucks, you know, they just come out flat, a

1003
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: couple of drops and there's just no margin forever. I

1004
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: just feel like it's the same thing with the Browns.

1005
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: You know, you don't you don't even ye know, you're

1006
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 3: coming off a buye and you're a little bit healthier,

1007
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: you still don't have a massive margin for error here.

1008
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: If you're the Bucks like you used to, you know,

1009
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: it's just you know, Nick Chubb could just score a

1010
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns on you that and that might be

1011
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: enough with you know, the way Marii Cooper's playing, and

1012
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: you're gonna get some points on the Browns defense, But

1013
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: are you going to be able to put up you

1014
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: know thirty like the Bills or a team that you know,

1015
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: the Dolphins is able to do. I don't think the

1016
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: Bucks team, this Bucks team could do that because they

1017
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: haven't done it to this point. So give me the

1018
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: Browns as a home dog in a spot where everybody

1019
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: is counting them out. By the way, the Browns are

1020
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: all They've had their issues, but they are the fourth

1021
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: unluckiest team in the league. So also got that going

1022
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: for him. And as I mentioned, underdogs by more than

1023
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: a field goal with a total of forty seven or

1024
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: less are forty eight and twenty two, sixty nine percent

1025
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: against the spread this season, and underdogs that the public

1026
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: is not on. Because the public's been on a lot

1027
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: more underdogs this year. I guess they're catching on and

1028
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: hasn't been doing too bad. But underdogs that are not

1029
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 3: the public side. So getting a fifty percent or less

1030
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: of the bets forty five and nineteen and one seventy

1031
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: percent against the spread, and the public is on the

1032
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: Bucks here, So loving me some Browns plus three and

1033
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: a half.

1034
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the spot. I am actually I know

1035
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: normally would never say this, but I am worried about

1036
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: this is usually an overrated narrative aspect just the professional athletes.

1037
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: But I am worried about their locker room, like everything

1038
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: that I've been reading. I know some people close to

1039
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: the team. I mean you have you already mentioned Garret

1040
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: Conte and that doesn't mean much, but like guys coming

1041
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: out and saying we don't like no one knows where

1042
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: they're supposed to go, don't I think that they're in

1043
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: zone and man, at the same time, they're not, like

1044
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: the so Joe Woods has to go. I think like

1045
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: this is it's a bad situation with the defense, and

1046
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: it's like turning toxic. And last week, like yeah, you said,

1047
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: you know they covered against the Bills. The Bills, you know,

1048
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: they they were stuck in their house from Wednesday to Saturday.

1049
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: They didn't practice, and then they fly to Detroit and

1050
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Alan obviously's arm is like just fuck. To start the game,

1051
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: they don't get a first down until like midway through

1052
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 2: the second quarter. Then still just didn't matter. And again

1053
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: the Browns needed to win just because some of the

1054
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: defensive lapses and like letting the Bills run all over

1055
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 2: you is bad. I mean, like, no Bills haven't running

1056
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: on anybody any Everyone is like setting records against the Browns.

1057
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: They're the worst run and since EPA has been recorded,

1058
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: they're the worst rush ePAT the season end today in

1059
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: NFL history.

1060
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect against the Bucks though, like that's out

1061
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: of all teams.

1062
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: But it doesn't doesn't like the Bucks even do it.

1063
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: So that's that's the question in the weather, and the

1064
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Bucks do have a good run defense and it's not

1065
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: as elite which helps a little bit here as it's been.

1066
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: But just the I believe the Brown center is out right,

1067
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: which yeah, which like bit them last week because they

1068
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: were trying to run quarterback sneaks back to back behind

1069
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: their backup center was getting blown up. That could be

1070
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: an issue here against the Bucks. So yeah, I get

1071
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: the spot. I think there is a little bit of value,

1072
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: but the defense is there's something going on there, like

1073
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 2: and usually don't see this many comments from different people,

1074
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: so we'll see. But I definitely don't hate the play

1075
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: all right. For my third pick and the sixth overall

1076
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: of the Sunday six pack, I'm going with the Cincinnati

1077
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Bengals minus two and a half against my Tennessee Titans.

1078
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: Oh boy.

1079
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's tickings of slim this It's probably one

1080
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: of the toughest weeks I've seen. This is the only

1081
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: other game I played. You mentioned Green Bay. I'll probably

1082
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: end up playing them, you know, San fran I couldn't

1083
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: see a teaser piece. We'll get to some of these games,

1084
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: but Chargers got away from me. This is really the

1085
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: only game I've left so that I played. And I

1086
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: do have to give credit to Tennessee last week for

1087
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: the win because it was the first time that I

1088
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: faded them this year that I actually upgraded them after

1089
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: the game. So you know, I'll I'll get all the

1090
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: shit from Tennessee fans this this week. They did ruin

1091
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: my streak, my Packers streak. It was nine z against

1092
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: the spread of the Packers. You know, every time that

1093
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: the games, I go back, like I set numbers and

1094
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: there's matchups and I adjust my numbers, like I faded

1095
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: them against the Giants. The Giants went out right like

1096
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: you got to look at some of these games. They

1097
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: here are their wins. First of all, they're seven and three.

1098
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: They beat the Colts twice, the Raiders, the Texans, the Packers,

1099
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: and the Broncos and Washington with Carson Wentz and by

1100
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: the way, they give a four hundred yards to Wentz

1101
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: and he just threw a pick at the goal one

1102
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: in the final minute. Otherwise they would have won. The

1103
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: teams they beat are twenty one to forty two, and

1104
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: they are being out They were out gained by two

1105
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight total yards by the Colts in

1106
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: two meetings. Yeah, they do all the little things right,

1107
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: but there's there's also things that happen. They have nothing

1108
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: to do with Rabel and they're just lucky the Colts.

1109
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan gets gripped down by a face mask, they

1110
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: don't call it on a sack, and then the next

1111
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: play is a pick six. Derrick Henry gets tackled on

1112
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: a third and long lost by his chest and they

1113
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: call it a personal foul. Massive swings. In that game,

1114
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: the Raiders went two of six in the red zone.

1115
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 2: It's like these are games where Ian look at I'm like, hey,

1116
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: the Washington out played Tennessee last week. They out played

1117
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: the Bronco. They outplayed the Broncos. Two defenders run into

1118
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: each other. They out played the Packers last week, and

1119
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: I upgraded them. They have and they have a sort

1120
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: of like a service academy type of feel where they're like,

1121
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: you know your their success rates are probably gonna be

1122
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: lower than you expect a good team, and they're gonna

1123
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: be a little better in the red zone. They're gonna

1124
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: be a little better on fourth and once because you

1125
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: have Derrick Henry than maybe an average team. And if

1126
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: you look back over the past few years under Vrabel,

1127
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: they've always been really good in the red zone. But

1128
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: this team isn't as good offensive Like this team compared

1129
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: to last year is significantly worse offensively. Last year in

1130
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs, who almost beat this Begal team? Where do

1131
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: they get all the ards? It was aj Brown and

1132
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: Julio Jones. I believe you combined for like over two

1133
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: hundred yards receiving. It is now like Nick Westbrook, Akina

1134
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: and Treylon Burks. It is just significant downgrade. The offensive Lowood,

1135
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: the trol Woods, you might have, you might not have

1136
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: your starting center, You already don't have your starting left tackle.

1137
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: It's this offense is significantly worse than it was last year.

1138
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: The defense is also significantly worse. You have backups in

1139
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: the secondary, You've already lost Harold Landry your best passage.

1140
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna be without Denico Autrey. He's top ten

1141
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL in pressures and in sacks. He's probably

1142
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: been their MVP. If you don't want to include Jeffrey

1143
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: Simmons is just a monster, but Autrey is a massive

1144
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: loss after you already don't have Landry, and like I

1145
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: just said, they have. They havenot beat a team that

1146
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: sniffed winning record if you you know, if you include Wentz,

1147
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: like they beat the Raider, and they've been played in

1148
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: these games. They're finally going up against a competent team

1149
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: with competent offense that can pick apart this really really

1150
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: vulnerable secondary. Joe Mixon might not play great. I don't

1151
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: want the Bengals sitting here handing it off to Joe

1152
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: Mixon on early downs. This Bengals team really looked focused

1153
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: last week. I loved what I saw out of them

1154
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: after the bye because guess what Bengals lose this game.

1155
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: I got a prediction they're gonna miss the playoffs with

1156
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: their schedule coming up. Their Bills, Ravens, Chiefs stick up

1157
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: the Their schedule is the hardest in the NFL. I

1158
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: think you saw that focus coming out of the bye,

1159
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: and look I gotta give a lot of credit to Vaybel.

1160
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: I think he should be Coach of the Year. But

1161
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: this Titans team has been extremely fortunate and they beat

1162
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: nothing but bad teams to get the seven wins. I'll

1163
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: take the Bengals at home. I don't love it as

1164
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: much as I loved some of the other bets against

1165
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: the Titans and upgrade him last week. But at under

1166
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: a field goal here, it's an ugly card. I did

1167
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: play the small so I'm in a roll with the

1168
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 2: Bengals here laying the short road price. I chase my play,

1169
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: which would obviously only help, but I'm not banking on Yeah.

1170
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he could because they did wave Mike Thomas.

1171
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: I mean they also called up Trenton Irwin, but you know,

1172
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: waving Mike Thomas was interesting. That makes me think maybe

1173
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: Chase is gonna play this week. But you know, every

1174
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: week I feel like betting against the Titans. People try

1175
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: to come up with all these reasons why the Titans

1176
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: aren't as good as they've been, and it's like, we're

1177
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 3: going on what three four years now, this team overachieving.

1178
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: It's just what they do. They're gonna they're gonna be

1179
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: more efficient that they're an out their red zone outlier

1180
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: essentially sustain outlying success in the red zone. And another

1181
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: thing about this team, and you know, it really struck

1182
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: me when I had that under I think it was

1183
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: like thirty six or something, thirty six and a half

1184
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, and like half of the defense

1185
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: was out, and I was like, oh, man, should I

1186
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: buy out of this? I don't know, Like I didn't

1187
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: expect everyone to be out, but this team is so

1188
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: deep that I don't I don't think it's even about

1189
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: you know, you could they have a lot of studs

1190
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: and it's like one, like a few of them could

1191
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: be out, and I still don't think it's a big deal.

1192
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: I just think this Bengals team, like unlike the Bucks,

1193
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: for example, I think this Bengals team just has a

1194
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: margin forever. This Bengals team, you know, Joe Burrow can

1195
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: throw an interception right to the defensive lineman or take

1196
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: a bad sack or you know whatever. They can just

1197
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: come right down the field in the next possession and

1198
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: you know, three plays, boom boo, boom, touchdown. This Bengal

1199
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: team can beat good defenses. I think that's what you

1200
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: hang your hat on in this in this bet, like

1201
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: I think the Titans, I don't think it's about trashing

1202
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: the Titans. I just think the Bengals are one of

1203
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: those teams they can lose anybody because sometimes it just

1204
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 3: gets ugly with the with the pressure and you know,

1205
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: whatever not. But they can also beat anybody, as they

1206
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: showed on the on the way to Super Bowl Asher.

1207
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: So they've played not a single competent quarterback with a

1208
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: single competent passing attack the entire season that they've come

1209
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: out on top.

1210
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: But they also covered against the Chiefs, they covered against

1211
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: the they were underdoging that game against the Pack. Like

1212
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: you know, they can only do what their schedule allows

1213
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: them to do.

1214
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: Like like, there's some things that are happening for the

1215
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: Titans that have just been extremely fortunate, and I think

1216
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: that this is the week that they get picked off.

1217
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: There are teams that just are lucky. But I would

1218
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: not lay three here. I would not lay three and

1219
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: a half. Two and a half would be my max.

1220
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: That's it. So I look forward to battling with with

1221
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: Titans fans this weekend.

1222
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: Like this type team to me, if they if they

1223
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: can just keep that O line in a decent place

1224
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: come playoff time. I think this might be the most

1225
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: dangerous Titans team because I don't think they have a

1226
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: lot of weaknesses outside of you know, their O line

1227
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: getting hurt. So to wrap up the six pack, we

1228
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 3: got Trelor Lawrence, potentially Zach Wilson, maybe some Mike White,

1229
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: maybe some Joe Flacco, some Joe Burrow, some Rogers, some Brissette,

1230
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: and some Sam Darnold.

1231
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: So good little s mortgage board.

1232
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Stuck is on jacks, the Jaguars plus four,

1233
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: the Jets four and a half, of the Bengals minus

1234
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: two and a half. I'm on the Pack plus seven,

1235
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: the Browns plus three and a half, and the Panthers

1236
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: plus two and a half. Now it is time for

1237
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: the Week twelve Coaches pep Talk.

1238
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: Every time we get ready to play, I just want

1239
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: to throw up.

1240
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: I'm sick I'm watching you guys play. This week's Furious

1241
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: Coaches pep Talk comes to us from the nineteen seventy

1242
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: sixth Film Network, and we're dedicating it. Who gotta go

1243
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: with Hackett here? I mean, they're hiring all these guys

1244
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: to do jobs that they're not doing well. And then

1245
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: his specialty is offense, and yet he seems like a

1246
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: net negative to the offense. So you gotta get it together, man,

1247
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: Hacker I mean honorable mentioned the Cliff and now they're

1248
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: talking about they prefer McCoy to Murray. There's a lot

1249
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: going on with Cliff too, but Hackett still takes the

1250
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: cake somehow each and every week. I don't have to

1251
01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: tell you things are bad.

1252
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: Everybody knows things are bad.

1253
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 3: There's nobody anywhere seems to know what to do, and there's.

1254
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: No end to it.

1255
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: We know things are bad, worse than bad.

1256
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, and all we

1257
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: say is just leave us alone. Well, I'm not good

1258
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: to leave you alone. I want you to get mad.

1259
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: You've got to say I'm a human being.

1260
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: God damn it, my life has value.

1261
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: I want you to get up now. I want all

1262
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: of you to get up out of your chairs and

1263
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 2: go to the window, open it and stick your head

1264
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 2: out and.

1265
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Yell hire as bad as hell.

1266
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not tyn to take this anymore.

1267
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go to our favorite total of the week

1268
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: to Technically you're a first, but you kind of already

1269
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: made your point.

1270
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: I already gave mine I think this totals just come

1271
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: down too much indoor game. Patriots defense the lower rated

1272
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: in the market right now for facing Zach Wilson, Zack

1273
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: Wilson and Sam Alnger in back to back to back weeks.

1274
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: Also a couple other backups this year indoors enough weapons

1275
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: here for Minnesota to have success, and I think that

1276
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: New England can have success against a poor Minnesota defense.

1277
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to run on them. There's three,

1278
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, they have a Duke Shelley's potentially starting at corner.

1279
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to throw a little bit on them.

1280
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: Mac Jones, who you know, looked pretty good last week

1281
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: given the conditions and the defense that he faced, And

1282
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: that was one of the reasons why I bet the

1283
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: Patriots was and I didn't get to enjoy have the

1284
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: joy of the part return like all my friends. I

1285
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: was because I had money line on money lining with

1286
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens so like, but covering minus three like that

1287
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: must have been so thrilling on a basically a walk

1288
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: off put return. But I think that like he was

1289
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: just rusty. He was out with an injury and I

1290
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: think he needed some time and some rep so I

1291
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 2: think he'll look even better this week against the bad

1292
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota defense. I'll give it you over there where you go.

1293
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 3: Uh, you already talked about it, so you did a

1294
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: lot of the legwork for me in terms of having

1295
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: to explain it. But I am going with the Ravens

1296
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: Jaguars under forty three and a half. I don't think

1297
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: this Ravens offense, even though they have maybe the most

1298
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: explosive player in the game, I don't think the offense

1299
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: itself is particularly explosive at this juncture. I think it's

1300
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: everything's going to be a struggle for them. And on

1301
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: the other side, you know, we talked about it when

1302
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: they started upgrading the linebacking corps and you know, they

1303
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: got Rokwan and who came back, Bowser came back, and

1304
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: you know, it just it's just a whole new field

1305
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: to this defense with that second level fortified and you know,

1306
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: get more guys on the edge, and I just think

1307
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: it makes it really tough for the Jaguars as well.

1308
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: And I think the just is gonna be kind of

1309
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: a slog of a game. Some heat, some humidity, and

1310
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence home starts since he was drafted He's now

1311
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: played fourteen games in Jacksonville under twelve and two eighty

1312
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 3: six percent, covering by an average of seven point eight

1313
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: points per game, including a perfect five. And oh this season,

1314
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: they don't put up a ton of points if they

1315
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: if they're gonna win, they're gonna win ugly at home.

1316
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 3: So they don't need a lot of points necessarily to

1317
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: beat this jack team, even at home.

1318
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: And I expect the Ravens to, you know, just do

1319
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: what they do, get back.

1320
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: To running the ball, you know, convert long drives, convert

1321
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: on third and short, and get out of Jacksonville to win.

1322
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: So give me under forty three and a half Baltimore Jacksonville.

1323
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ravens being like even extra vanilla lately, I think

1324
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: that they know that, like they're just they're no, they're

1325
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: gonna get to the playoffs, and they know that they're

1326
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna have to like scheme really well on offense. And

1327
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: I think that they're just holding a lot back against

1328
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: these infamior teams. Not that their offense would be just

1329
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: some juggernaut, but I have seen that in recent weeks

1330
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: defense is gonna be really good down the stretch that

1331
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens probably be a really good underteam the rest

1332
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: of the way.

1333
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: All right, So New England, Minnesota over forty two and

1334
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: a half for Stuggy Baltimore Jacksonville under forty three and

1335
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: a half for me. Now it's time for our favorite

1336
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: teaser of the week. Oh yeah, six point teasers. Don't

1337
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: don't tease me please? Who do you got stuck?

1338
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Keep it easy, simple. You want to tease through

1339
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: three and seven when possible, lower the total better, So

1340
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: Panthers Patriots going from two and a half to eight

1341
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: and a half. I'm both already talked about them earlier.

1342
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: I'll go with the Patriots in pair them with the

1343
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans. I think I just think this Titans team

1344
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: is gonna hang around even if the Bengals are able

1345
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 3: to win the game. I don't think the Titans will

1346
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 3: be will get blown out.

1347
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, like I would lean that under too. This

1348
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: is a little too low for me, But I think

1349
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: that Tennessee will have a good game plan, mainly like

1350
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: they know that they're limited with their pass rush, so

1351
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna say Burrow like we're gonna drop our safety.

1352
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: They're gonn make yeh since he just drive it down methodically,

1353
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: and I think since he's defense will show up here

1354
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: and you might have some conditions, so that would make

1355
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: the teaser even more valuable. I do think it'll be

1356
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: a close game.

1357
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: So Tennessee plus two to plus plus two and a

1358
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: half to plus eight and a half for me. With

1359
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: the Patriots, they're two and a half at fan duel.

1360
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 3: I think they can stick with this biking team, which

1361
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: you know, even if they win, it's always by one possession.

1362
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: And then you are going with the Panthers from two

1363
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: and a half to eight and a half, and yeah,

1364
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: parent with Patriots as well. All right, now it is

1365
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: time for our money line underdog parlay. Turning good weekends

1366
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: into great weekends.

1367
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: It's time for the money line parlay.

1368
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go with the Raiders here. Nothing

1369
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: mind blowing. I think that the Seahawks are still a

1370
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: little bit overvalued in the market, so I see some

1371
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: value in this number. That's about it. We don't need

1372
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: to go deep into this game. I think that should

1373
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: be like two and a half three. Yeah, I think

1374
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: that there's a little bit of value the number. So

1375
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: let's let's roll with the Raiders money line.

1376
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about that spread.

1377
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: But I just I don't think I want to test

1378
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: fate with this Raider team two weeks in a row.

1379
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 3: I mean that was that was talk about a thrilling

1380
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: cover that the DeVante walk off, but there on margin

1381
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: is not big the way it is, and Cars kind

1382
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: of hinting that, you know, he's kind of got to

1383
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: follow the reads for Josh for Daniels, which you can

1384
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: see because sometimes he just makes great plays, but sometimes

1385
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: he makes just inexplicable one. So yeah, I think it's

1386
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: better to play them. It probably is ideal to just

1387
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: play them as a as a dog. Get the extra

1388
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: juice there.

1389
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: Remember this is the team, I mean the enough there.

1390
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: They have a ton of one possession losses. And I

1391
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: also think that there's I'll just throw this one thing

1392
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: out there that they I think that they're metrics, they

1393
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 2: have flaws, especially on defense, and with this office, I

1394
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: don't think it's a great fit. Remember this is a

1395
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: team that led by seventeen three times. They lost by

1396
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: one at Kansas City. But I think they had a

1397
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 2: flu game where they're a huge flew out.

1398
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah Saints game.

1399
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: New Orleans, and then that has blown up. They lost,

1400
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: they got shut out and you didn't even get cross

1401
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: to fifty until the end. So that's like weighing down

1402
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: some of their numbers a little bit. I've basically removed

1403
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: that game. But anyway, I think I'll have a shot here.

1404
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I will go with the Atlanta Falcons plus

1405
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 3: one sixty six at the Washington Commanders.

1406
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: And your commanders.

1407
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: I know, right, It's just I listen, I love Heinike

1408
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 3: and I think he upgrade over Wentz, especially from a

1409
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 3: betting perspective. But now you're talking about Washington as more

1410
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: than a field goal favorite. And this whole, the whole

1411
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 3: NFC is just middling, right, Like the Falcons, They're not terrible.

1412
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: I mean they're still in the division right technically down

1413
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm about moving the ball.

1414
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was gonna say, you know, this Washington

1415
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: run defense has been good, but I had, like, I

1416
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: don't think the Washington offense is got great either, you know,

1417
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: I just every every game I see with the Falcons,

1418
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, you come in and on paper there's some

1419
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: type of mismatch because remember, we thought the Falcons might

1420
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: be one of the worst teams in the entire league.

1421
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we did think they would be feisty, but

1422
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, just roster.

1423
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: Wise, I mean they kind of down there, and so

1424
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 3: every game you can kind of point out to things, Oh,

1425
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: you know, they like to run, and this team has

1426
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 3: a good run defense, but they just kind of find

1427
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: a way to hang around hanging these games and I

1428
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: don't see you know, Washington, they had their upset win

1429
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: against Philip they had their blow out, their bow out win.

1430
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,879
Speaker 3: Get right, you know, everything goes right against Texans, heinig

1431
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 3: they're feeling great, Heineggigans name the starter.

1432
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: I think a letdown spot is coming. So when we're

1433
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: talking about a money line.

1434
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 3: Dog, I just think that, yeah, I think the line

1435
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: should have been probably minus two and a half.

1436
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: And you know, now because I think maybe because of that.

1437
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, Washington has a good run defense and

1438
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 3: that's what the Falcons like to do. But remember at

1439
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, we are always

1440
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 3: looking for edges, especially to totals with with that kind

1441
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 3: of stuff. But at the end of the day, run

1442
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: the run game in general, in terms of the point

1443
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: differential is not going to be a massive It's not

1444
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 3: gonna have as massive in effect. So it's you's still

1445
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: got you know, sometimes Marcus Mariota makes play, sometimes he doesn't,

1446
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: you know. Sometimes they have great schemes, sometimes they don't.

1447
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, bet on them as the money line dog

1448
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 3: and see what happens there. Plus one sixty six.

1449
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: So if you parlay the Raiders.

1450
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: At plus one sixty two against the Seahawks and the

1451
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: Falcons at plus one sixty six against the Bears, you

1452
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: get a six x hayout. So with one hundred you

1453
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 3: get back guess about seven hundred. So hopefully we can

1454
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 3: get back on get back to winning. Some of these

1455
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: still have a pretty good good hit rate on the year,

1456
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: but nowadays time for the best of the rest, which

1457
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: are the games we haven't covered in any other segment

1458
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 3: but are still, as they say, meaningful to some That's

1459
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 3: gonna be.

1460
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 5: A touchdown, but that may be meaningful to some of you,

1461
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 5: so you.

1462
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,480
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. First up, we got the Rams

1463
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: going to Kansas City fourteen and a half point underdogs.

1464
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,440
Speaker 3: The total is forty four. So do you have a

1465
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: massive spread with a low total? Any interest here in

1466
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: the Rams?

1467
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Rams or nothing. I mean, the Rams are awful,

1468
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: but this is probably the bottom of the market. And

1469
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: try to catch the falling knife. I mean, Stafford's been

1470
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: a disaster, Like it's been a bottom five quarterback. How

1471
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: much can the drop off? Can it really be? Well,

1472
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the quarterback is gonna be, but if

1473
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 2: you go Bryce Parkers, at least he can run around

1474
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: like buying that bad offensive line and get you some

1475
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: first running the ball, and like, it's just hard to

1476
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: cover fourteen and a half in today's NFL. The total

1477
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: is low, and the Chiefs historically have not done great

1478
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 2: in the spot with Mahomes again last week favorite of

1479
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: overfield goal. But this is, you know, over a touchdown,

1480
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: He's been even worse. This is over two touchdowns. They

1481
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,839
Speaker 2: just beat the Chargers so essentially lock up the division.

1482
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: They have that revenge game against SIDCI, So maybe it's

1483
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: a little lack of focus, but more importantly, it's probably

1484
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: just like, hey, we're probably not going to show much here.

1485
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: Let's just get the fuck out of here with a win.

1486
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: So I make it like twelve and a half. I

1487
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: got to figure out who's playing quarterback if they get

1488
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: any of like who's back those injuries? As of now,

1489
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: it's only Tuesday Lean to Rams. Yeah, I mean, but

1490
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: only over two touchdowns only over two touch.

1491
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fourteen and a half. Yeah, I mean historically.

1492
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: These are the kind of you know, spots where you

1493
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 3: want to back these huge favorites in a low total.

1494
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like every game is a world

1495
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 3: to again, but it should kind of raise your eyebrows

1496
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: on the Chiefs are a uh you know in this total,

1497
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: in this kind of total. Maybe I think we talked

1498
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: about this before, but Dunc, these games tend to go

1499
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: to under two.

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: Like when the Chiefs are big favorites.

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, we're not going to show much.

1502
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: We get the lead and then we just kind of

1503
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: lead it out. That's kind of the Andy Reid m O.

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: Number one supposed to play least supposed to play the

1505
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: loud on against both the run in the past too.

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, they'll they'll make them work for it. They

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: also are not fully helped. The Chiefs aren't fully healthy

1508
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: at receiver Tony, which is pretty fun.

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01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 3: He's another one. Yeah, he's another one of those guys

1510
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 3: added to the.

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01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 2: Joke about his hamstring one week and then the next

1512
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: week he's hurts it again. Uh, you know, Juju is questionable,

1513
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure they're not going to push

1514
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, and it's a big game,

1515
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: like they're they're they're waiting to unleash uh some hell

1516
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: on the Bengals next week for all the ship the

1517
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: Bengals talk. So Andy's gonna keep a few plays in

1518
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 2: his pocket this week. So it's Rams or nothing. But

1519
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: obviously there's a lot of uncertainty with the quarterback.

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01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 3: Maybe get some Kyron Williams overs for the Rams with Henderson.

1521
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: Who actually looks looks some looks, looks like he's gonna

1522
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: bring a little more juice to that running attack.

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if they if books are gonna probably

1524
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: struggle to the price is problem. Maybe they don't post it,

1525
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 3: but usually, especially in a Chiefs game, they try to

1526
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: post everybody. So, uh look out for that. Follow follow

1527
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: us in the app. But could be some action, could

1528
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: be some opportunities there. The next game is the Houston

1529
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: Texans at the Miami Dolphins. Miami favorite by thirteen, the

1530
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 3: total forty six and a half. I'm not gonna lie,

1531
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 3: you know. I don't really mess with favorites, especially youumongous ones,

1532
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: but I tempted to take Miami. I feel like they've

1533
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 3: their offense is just it's gonna it's it's gonna be beastly.

1534
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: And they really have only blown out was just Cleveland.

1535
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: They haven't blown out teams, but I think I think

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: that's coming. I think they can to start blowing out

1537
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 3: some teas and this Texas team feels like it could be.

1538
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: But that at the same time that they might have

1539
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: had their like bad week against the Commanders and now

1540
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 3: they get more effort from them. I don't know, what

1541
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: do you think about this?

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01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: I bad myself. It's kind of on a quarterback. It

1543
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: looks might be or Davis Mills. I've silenced myself for

1544
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: one week after last per form So, yeah, the Dolphins

1545
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: are getting a little overrated. I keep hearing like two

1546
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: is the best quarterback. I keep two is like the

1547
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: best quarter Like two is playing really well. He has

1548
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: a really good, well designed offense, and he has amazing receivers.

1549
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: And the Dolphins like they're they're gonna get override. I'm

1550
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: not sure I want to. It just gets two touchdowns.

1551
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,879
Speaker 2: I might look at Houston, but I mean the Dolphins

1552
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: have beat the Browns, the Bears, the Lions, and the Steelers.

1553
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: That's their last four instance two. It came back like

1554
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers about what Lions, Bears, and Browns those are

1555
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: maybe three.

1556
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this team is worse than all those.

1557
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: I know. Oh, I know this is this isn't the time,

1558
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like the Dolphins offense and the perception

1559
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: is starting to get a little over the eye. Might

1560
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: happen this week, so I'm saying it's fine this week,

1561
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 2: they'll probably another explosive week. But next week at the

1562
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers.

1563
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the oh Mike mc daniel rematch, that's a

1564
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: good one.

1565
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. N Then they're at the Chargers, then they're at

1566
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: the Bills. So there might be some times to fade

1567
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,480
Speaker 2: the Dolphins.

1568
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: I would I would say this though. I mean, yes,

1569
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: obviously looking for cracks and the chinks in the armor,

1570
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: but I kind of have a gut feel that Dolphins

1571
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: are for real and they're only gonna get better, and

1572
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna start They're gonna start make a habit of

1573
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 3: like throttling teams. Like just when we started a question like, Okay,

1574
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 3: the Dolphins look good. They're putting up great numbers against

1575
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: bad defenses, but they're not really blowing anyone out. I

1576
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: feel like.

1577
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: It would have to cut to their defense their problem.

1578
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I don't know what I'm seeing, but.

1579
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm healthy defensive back, and I think, you.

1580
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 3: Know, Chubb is helping with the pressure they're getting. They're

1581
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: getting a little more pressure. They're covering a little better.

1582
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, at one point, you know, nobody was healthy.

1583
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: They couldn't even the players that usually were good at covering,

1584
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 3: only Ko who was really the only guy who could

1585
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 3: cover anyone. But I just another team kind of feels

1586
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: like the Titans just they could really be dangerous if

1587
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 3: they just get a couple of things together on that defense.

1588
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like they're getting better, so we might.

1589
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 3: You might not get that opportunity. You know, now they

1590
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 3: have their buy they're very well coached too, you know,

1591
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: like this this team is extremely well coached. So uh yeah,

1592
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 3: it's one of those teams. I don't know if we

1593
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,480
Speaker 3: get that opportunity to really truly.

1594
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: Build the spot. I will be on the Bills against

1595
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. The Bills had that spot circledcate them about

1596
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: three hundred. We're getting cramps and that's going to be

1597
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: in the cold for Miami and like middle of December

1598
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: for the out the Bills is the juiciest one to me.

1599
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: But we have that's either here or there.

1600
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 3: Last game, last two more tre we got the Chargers

1601
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: going on the road, so we got a cliff home

1602
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 3: game here and the Chargers are favored by four. The

1603
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: cars are coming back from Mexico City. Seems like, you know,

1604
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 3: like you. On one hand, you got the Cardinals who

1605
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 3: just struggle inexplicably struggle at home.

1606
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Second half of the year. They always they struggled home.

1607
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: Chargers that you don't trust them with margins exactly. This

1608
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: is pure.

1609
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 3: Yep. And five.

1610
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: The last one is the.

1611
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints at the San Francisco forty nine ers

1612
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: minus nine and a half the total forty three. So

1613
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: this is another one where you got a big spread,

1614
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: you got a lower total. But Niners beam like they're

1615
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: like you. It used to be you could just kind

1616
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: of bank on fading the Niners.

1617
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: Fade spot in the past.

1618
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now like they've actually been covering up. I've

1619
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 3: done a good job of kind of like not betting

1620
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: against them. It kind of feels the same way, you know, Okay,

1621
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 3: the Niners could be a little bit of a uh,

1622
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,959
Speaker 3: you know, sweepy spot coming back from from Mexico City,

1623
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 3: just got a big win, and they face the Saints

1624
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: team that can kind of hang around with teams. But

1625
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. This offense is just quickened and the

1626
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: defense is talented enough that this could get I think

1627
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: this could get away from the Warrens. What do you think?

1628
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to see I did. It's too early

1629
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: for the in new report. I means, might I be

1630
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: down like now, a bunch of defensive linemen and they're

1631
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: they're they're it's bad and they're not getting any pressure.

1632
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 2: And that's where that's how you have to get the

1633
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy g And they have so many weapons now. So

1634
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: it's it's a great spot situationally historically for the New Orleans.

1635
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't think I want to get there,

1636
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: and I probably won't lay it just because I can't

1637
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: get to their number. Wise, But yes, this looks like

1638
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: a pure stay away from me. But I think the

1639
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: Niners are the best team in NF Say, if they

1640
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: get help, if they are one hundred percent healthy, they're

1641
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: the most dangerous team.

1642
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, especially with this Kaffrey off. I mean it's

1643
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: crazy too, because they got a Kaffrie. They don't even

1644
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: give him the most caries. Everything's clicking and you got

1645
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 3: your better quarterbacks now almost it was almost a blessing

1646
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 3: in disguise. I think for Lance to go down because,

1647
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: especially with all these pieces around him, I think Jimmy

1648
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: G is the man for the job, like I think

1649
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 3: Lance higher upside. But if you want to win the

1650
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year, just throw Jimmy G in there

1651
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 3: with this kind of supporting cast.

1652
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: So yep, that is.

1653
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,679
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Speaker 3: everyone out there listening. Glad that you take time out

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Speaker 3: to kick it with us. Best of wish to see

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Speaker 3: Uh be uh be thankful to be grateful all that

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Speaker 3: good stuff. Uh and we'll catch you next week.

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