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Speaker 2: Oh we've got a horrible parting gift that is on

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Speaker 3: You know, good morning fellas.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to Daniel Snyder and his terrible parting gift

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Speaker 2: of sixty million dollars as far as the fine goes,

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Speaker 2: But that small potatoes compared to a tweet I saw

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Speaker 2: this morning. One Jackpot, the dog of Jared Smith, has

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Speaker 2: gone crazy. He's tearing up the couch cushions.

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Speaker 3: Are a mess.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what is going on over.

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Speaker 4: There with the booch?

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Speaker 1: Jackpot had an incident last night. He was very upset.

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Speaker 5: We lost another ner fee on a home run with

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Speaker 5: two outs in the first inning. And as I so,

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Speaker 5: I actually went out with a friend of mine to

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Speaker 5: go watch the Team USA soccer match, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I had the dog camera, and you know, it was

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Speaker 5: about halfway through the match.

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Speaker 1: I was like, ah, chuck on Jackput.

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Speaker 5: And it was like it was like zooming into like

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Speaker 5: the scene of a crime.

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Speaker 1: The cushions were everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I'll send you, guys the screenshot of the dog camera

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Speaker 5: discovery when I found out.

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Speaker 1: What a bad boy he was.

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Speaker 5: But you know, everyone goes through this. This is still

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Speaker 5: the puppy stage for him, and unfortunately he has been sentenced.

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Speaker 5: It was a very quick trial. The wheels of justice

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Speaker 5: were swift and two weeks of great training is the answer?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was an open and shutcase, guys. The evidence was

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Speaker 5: very overwhelming.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like there was no chance that another dog may

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Speaker 4: have no. Okay, okay, no, it.

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Speaker 5: Was uh it was we we almost I almost got

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Speaker 5: a confession out of him, but unfortunately it didn't quite

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Speaker 2: By the way, and this is I please believe me,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to twist the knife over here. This

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Speaker 2: is an honest question. Would it be worse seeing like

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Speaker 2: the no runs first inning bet where you see the

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Speaker 2: crack of the bat and you initially that horrible sinking

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Speaker 2: in your chest feeling where you're like, that's got a

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Speaker 2: chance to be a home run? Is that feeling worse

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Speaker 2: than if you are on camera remotely and seeing Jackpotton

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Speaker 2: begin the process of ripping up the couch like, which

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Speaker 2: feeling is worse?

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Speaker 4: Op it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't. Luckily I didn't have that feeling because

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Speaker 5: it was by the time I had discovered it, it

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Speaker 5: was already the crime had already been committed.

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Speaker 1: I think, so let's just leave it at this.

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Speaker 5: I've done the first one of the first months of

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Speaker 5: doing this show, and I think Iowa can probably attest

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Speaker 5: to this because he probably remembers this. He during the

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Speaker 5: last segment, during our pick segment, he dropped just.

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Speaker 1: A hillacious hillasious.

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Speaker 5: Uh you know what, right in the middle of the floor,

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Speaker 5: in plain view of me. So I'm sitting here giving

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Speaker 5: my picks. I'm on camera because we're doing the zoom,

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Speaker 5: and in the corner of my eye, I just see

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Speaker 5: and what can you do at that time We're in

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Speaker 5: the middle of the show.

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Speaker 1: That one was. That one was worse.

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Speaker 5: The couch cushion dogs do that all the time. I'm

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Speaker 5: just giving them a little too much free rein while

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Speaker 5: I am out of the apartment.

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Speaker 1: That can be easily corrected.

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Speaker 5: Going going potty in the house, that's far worse. So

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Speaker 5: it wasn't as bad. I let's just leave it at this.

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Speaker 2: Losing Nerfies feels worse because I okay, yeah, I hear

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Speaker 2: you on that. Yeah, it's not a good omen for

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Speaker 2: the Picks either.

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Speaker 1: No, I forget how they did that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I thought you meant Iowa Sam was

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Speaker 2: doing that initially, and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, I hadn't.

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Speaker 2: A terrible and personal Okay, So Dan Snyder, it's official.

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Speaker 2: The sale has gone through. Dan Snyder has sold the

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Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. Josh Harris he is the new guy. One

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Speaker 2: of many people that are, you know, partial owners of

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders franchise, Magic Johnson being one of them,

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Speaker 2: but Dan Snyder. The sale goes through just a little

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Speaker 2: north of six billion dollars and Dan Snyder bought them

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Speaker 2: for what eight hundred million, So it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan in a way, huge financial gain, not

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of teams success along the way. Of course,

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Speaker 2: it's far worse with Dan Snyder because not only on

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Speaker 2: top of losing, he was a disaster where there was

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Speaker 2: another investigation that unveiled that he was sexually harassing one

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Speaker 2: of the employees, and also they were withholding money from

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which would have been shared throughout the NFL

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Speaker 2: with all the other teams. And so he gets diinged

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Speaker 2: for sixty million dollars. This is the craziest thing. So

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Speaker 2: the sixty million dollar finds fine that represents one percent

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Speaker 2: of the sale Pricey that like sixty billion dollars. That

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Speaker 2: is one percent of the six billion dollars that Dan

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Speaker 2: Snyder just sold that franchise for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this was impunitive.

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Speaker 1: This was so that.

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Speaker 4: The NFL could tag something on the way out to say, see,

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Speaker 4: we do our due diligence, even when it's against the owners.

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Speaker 4: Well that's not the case. We've known that forever. But

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Speaker 4: this is the way it goes. I mean, it's good

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Speaker 4: to be the king. And Dan Snyder was one of

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Speaker 4: thirty two kings in this country. It is truly royalty

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Speaker 4: when you get welcomed into this club, that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: And kings usually don't spend a lot of time in prison.

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Speaker 4: They're usually I mean back in the day, in the

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Speaker 4: medieval court days, you either slain or you you carried

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Speaker 4: your crown. Well, we just saw what happens when you

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Speaker 4: screw up or when you screw over. Enough of these

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Speaker 4: owners and whether that means Dan Snyder personally screwed over

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Speaker 4: these guys or just the bad public relations that his

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Speaker 4: name and what he had done culture wise with the

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Speaker 4: Washington Commanders had done to the reputation of the league.

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Speaker 4: Either way, it was egregious enough for him to be

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Speaker 4: forced out, and he went down kicking and screaming. You know,

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Speaker 4: he was threatening people and trying to blackmail people, you know,

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Speaker 4: per sources on the way out, and none of it

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Speaker 4: worked because this machine is too powerful for one person

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Speaker 4: he finally relented, I bet you when the valuations came

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Speaker 4: all of it. But yeah, this is, uh, this is

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Speaker 4: an interesting thing that we're dealing with in this country

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Speaker 4: because it sort of feels like all of these people

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Speaker 4: make the rules for each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was almost like flabbergasted when I saw some of

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Speaker 5: the allegations from Jason Friedman's findings, and that's you know,

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Speaker 5: came out with this revenue sharing allegation, this twenty three

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Speaker 5: page report at the end of the at the end

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Speaker 5: of the rainbow here to kind of give give mister

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Speaker 5: Snyder one swift kick.

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Speaker 1: In the in the took us on his way out.

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Speaker 5: This is bad, Like this is the sexual harassment allegations

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Speaker 5: are terrible and they're awful, and they speak for themselves.

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Speaker 1: This is a whole.

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Speaker 5: Nother part of fraud that that that he's being accused

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Speaker 5: of here that I didn't even know of. I And

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Speaker 5: maybe there was some rumors or rumblings of this underneath

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Speaker 5: the sir, But this alone, forget about all the other stuff,

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Speaker 5: and the other stuff is bad too. This alone is

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Speaker 5: enough reason to maybe not lose the club, but definitely

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Speaker 5: be put in a really difficult spot, maybe sell a

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Speaker 5: majority share or something.

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Speaker 1: I mean it.

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Speaker 5: The investigation and I'm reading is directly from the report

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Speaker 5: identified ticket, parking license other revenues that were transferred from

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Speaker 5: an account which was a shared revenue account into a

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Speaker 5: non shared revenue account. On the evidence available found that

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Speaker 5: did not rule out that mister Snyder directed or personally

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Speaker 5: participated in the shielding of revenues. Like you're a rich

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Speaker 5: man already, Dan, what are you doing? Like this is

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Speaker 5: over the top greed, Like you see that show on

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Speaker 5: I forget what she never gets on. I think it's

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Speaker 5: on CNBC American Greed. This story belongs on that show.

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Speaker 5: You are the owner and rich, to say it, a king,

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Speaker 5: a royalty among men. Why do you need to share

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Speaker 5: with whold revenue sharing of parking and licensing fees? Like,

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Speaker 5: come on, like that is petty theft when you are

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Speaker 1: Powerful men in America. That is awful.

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Speaker 5: It just shows the complete lack of awareness that this

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Speaker 1: It's it's remarkable.

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Speaker 5: The lack of awareness and accountability that he had, either

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Speaker 5: personally participating. Yikes, really bad guys.

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Speaker 2: Awful, right, And that's the thing too, is I mean

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Speaker 2: you go back to, well, what did they actually gain?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a drop in the pennies for them, Like,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: It makes no sense at all.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think there are a few things.

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Speaker 2: I think once you get to a place where no

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Speaker 2: the word no just does not exist. And so as

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Speaker 2: I can do what I want, like yeah, the NFL

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Speaker 2: and whatever, there was some acts to grind, and he

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Speaker 2: thought he was done dirty at some turn along the way,

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Speaker 2: and oh, this is gonna get even or whatever. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna help me like later. It's horrible reasoning no matter what.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's like you

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Speaker 2: didn't even make out like a bandit. It's it was

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Speaker 2: my mind. The last time the Commanders wanted least eleven games,

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Speaker 2: you got to go back to their last Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: had at least one eleven win campaign since two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven. You gotta go all the way back to

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Speaker 2: ninety one one for Washington. That is that blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: Think how many bad teams there are in the NFL

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Speaker 2: have been bad for a while where you would think, man,

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Speaker 2: what's the last time I don't know, the uh, the

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Speaker 2: last time the Texans won eleven games?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: It feels like forever.

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Speaker 2: It's been a lot more recent than Washington and buckle

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Speaker 2: up because maybe another name change may we're keeping it

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Speaker 2: on the table. Maybe another name change is uh, they're

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Speaker 2: not gonna not tradition.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's that's what are we doing here.

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Speaker 5: In fact, let's just change it every year. Every year.

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Speaker 5: We'll let the fans or someone pick the new name,

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Speaker 5: and until they make the playoffs and the name has

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Speaker 5: to change every year.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna start my campaign for the Washington Magic

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Speaker 2: I've gotten older. If I'm the Packers' young receiving corps,

440
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: part of me is feeling like, wow, where was this

441
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: change last year?

442
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: You know what about us?

443
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: We're brand new rookies and it wasn't exactly like arm

444
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: around the shoulder. Now here's what you gotta look for, guys.

445
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: And it is with the Jets, I would feel like, wow, man,

446
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: where was this last year?

447
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

448
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: If the Packers might be feeling exactly like that right now.

449
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well here's the thing though, And I think Jared

450
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 4: got it right, and I think both of you alluded

451
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: to it. This is the offseason, this is day one stuff,

452
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: Like Aaron Rodgers is still trying to figure out where

453
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: the bathrooms are Jets facility, Like he's only been boots

454
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: on the ground in New York in that facility for

455
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: what maybe a total of twenty five thirty days a total.

456
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: I mean, when he starts to feel more comfortable with

457
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: this coaching staff, with all of these players, starts to

458
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: understand how they tick and how they're encouraged, and what

459
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: he can get away with personality wise in terms of

460
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: his ability to motivate. I mean, you're going to start

461
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: to see, or at very least the people who are

462
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: reporting on the Jets are going to start to see,

463
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: or Alan Lazard himself are going to start to see

464
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: some of the things that Aaron has always done with

465
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: players who are you know, stemming the wrong or coming

466
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: out of their breaks the wrong way at the top

467
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: of this stem on their routes, or you know, making

468
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: mental errors. I mean Aaron actually already had you know,

469
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 4: set himself like there are mental mistakes out there. He goes,

470
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 4: but a lot of it's new and he goes and

471
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: you know, obviously you don't want to repeat mistakes like

472
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: you already start to hear him talking about how there

473
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: are certain things that are bothering him. He's just letting

474
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 4: it fall by the wayside for now. But when you

475
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: are preparing for the Bills, or it is Week two

476
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: or three against the Kansas City Chiefs, or you're looking

477
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: at this this this schedule, and you're staring at all

478
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: the possible ways you could be one in three instead

479
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: of three and one, Well, yeah, that's when things ramp

480
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: up a little bit, and they will slowly ramp up

481
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: throughout the preseason. And trust me, not everybody's going to

482
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: be able to play it because if nobody or shouldn't

483
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 4: say nobody, but if there are players who can't play

484
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: at his level, he's just the train keeps on moving,

485
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: you know. So if that's too mean, or if that

486
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: isn't you know, kids gloves enough for some of these

487
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: younger players who are, you know, trying to get some

488
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: field time with Aaron, well again, it's going back to

489
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: what I was saying before. It's like too bad, you know. Yeah,

490
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: it feels like there's a little bit of a software

491
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 4: approach now. But I felt like that was the case

492
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 4: with Green Bay in the first place. During training camp,

493
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: and then it ramped up come the regular season because

494
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: a lot of those young players, it was still being reported,

495
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: were making some mistakes that were critical errors in games

496
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 4: earlier on. But then the Green Bay Packers turned it

497
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: on down the stretch of the season. You know, they

498
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 4: were the hottest team in football down the stretch of

499
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: the season, so you know, you can't argue with results.

500
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 4: It seemed like they were starting to have results.

501
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: Guys. Here's the difference between the Packers and the Jets. Culture.

502
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 5: The Packers Aaron Rodgers on the Packers for how many years,

503
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 5: ten fifteen years, building a culture, Yeah, winning a super Bowl,

504
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 5: getting to the playoffs every year, thirteen wins every year,

505
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 5: and then he goes to the Jets. It's like you're

506
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: going from a marathon runner to a guy that can't

507
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 5: run a five k. You gotta go slow when you're

508
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: working out. And trust me, I know this because I

509
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 5: run up a hill in one hundred and fifteen degree

510
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 5: heat every day here in Vegas. The first time I

511
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 5: did it, I barely made it up to hill. A

512
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: month later, I can go up to hill twice. Like

513
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: it's just you just have to go slow. This is

514
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 5: a Jets team, and I know I've been a fan

515
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: since I was five years old. In nineteen ninety one,

516
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: I attended my first Jets game. It's been a long

517
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 5: road for me.

518
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: I tended some playoff games.

519
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 5: Vinnie Testaverdi and Chad Pennington was the quarterback, not Aaron Rodgers. Now,

520
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: I know it's not the prime Aaron Rodgers, but it

521
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: wasn't prime Vinny Testaverdi either, Let's be honest. And they

522
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: were a breath away from the super Bowl. If Keith

523
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 5: Buyers doesn't fumble in the one yard line. I digress.

524
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: The culture in New York needed to change. They were

525
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: starting to get there. I think Robert sala is doing

526
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: a good job instilling the message, but the message only

527
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: goes so far. Right rich, you can have a coach,

528
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 5: the best orator on the planet, and then the game

529
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 5: starts and they're bumbling around like a bunch of fools,

530
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter what the message is. You need

531
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 5: someone to go out there and deliver the message. Well,

532
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys when he's playing

533
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 5: at his peak level.

534
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: But they haven't done it yet.

535
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 5: So all of this conjecture, and that's why everyone is

536
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 5: asking me every show I've been on every show I do.

537
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: Oh Jets fan, Jared's so excited, Aaron Rodgers Jets. Yeah,

538
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: I need to see it first. Nothing's happened, they haven't

539
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 5: done anything. They're just tiddly winking around on the practice field.

540
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: It's fun, it's exciting. But week one, Monday Night football

541
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: against Josh Allen and the Bills, that's when we'll start

542
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: to get our answers. Until then, guys, this is all

543
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: just fun and games. It's a fun game, but there's

544
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: really nothing to really back up.

545
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, you just said a couple of things right there,

546
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: delivering a message and fun in games, and I don't

547
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: know what else describes our man, Isaac Lowing run better

548
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: than that.

549
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: He's got the latest tour US. What's going on?

550
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: I look good morning, fellas.

551
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 8: Plenty of fun and plenty of games, especially for Team USA,

552
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 8: which won its opening match at the Women's World Cup

553
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 8: on Saturday three nothing over Vietnam. Sophia Smith a pair

554
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 8: of goals, Captain Lindsay Horan had the other. The US

555
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 8: appshot Vietnam twenty eight to nothing. On Friday night, Leonel

556
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 8: Messi made his Major League Soccer debut for Inter Miami

557
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 8: in a League's Cup match against cruz Azul of Mexico.

558
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 8: They were tied at one in second half stoppage time,

559
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 8: with Messi over the ball for a free kick. On

560
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 8: Apple TV here it is Messi.

561
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: For the match.

562
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 8: Winning goal in his MLS debut. Golf of the Open

563
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 8: American Brian Harmon at ten under par overall as a

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 8: five shot lead over Tommy Fleetwood. They will tee off

565
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 8: round three at ten thirty Eastern time this morning. While

566
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 8: in Major League Baseball on Friday night, Kyle Tucker of

567
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 8: the Houston Astros at three home runs at a six

568
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 8: to four win at Oakland. The Los Angeles Angels defeated

569
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Pirates eight to five. Show Hey Otani got

570
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 8: the win on the mound despite allowing four home runs.

571
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 8: The Seattle Mariners defeated the Toronto Blue Jays three to two,

572
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 8: tay Oscar Hernandez the game winning RBI single in the

573
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 8: bottle of the night thinning, and the Los Angeles Dodgers

574
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 8: what a Texas eleven to five brighton the Rangers six

575
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,800
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Speaker 1: You, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm getting a lot older because the messy goal.

589
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: Like first I saw it and I'm like, if you

590
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: just read the headline, I would think, was this sort

591
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: of like set up at all? The MLS debut and

592
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: you watch it and you're like, that's not set up

593
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: at all. No, No, there was a World Classic. Yeah

594
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: it was not stage.

595
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: No.

596
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what my debut. That's great for inter Miami and

597
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: all the stars out there. It's funny too, because he

598
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: didn't play the whole game. He entered, didn't like the

599
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: I forget what it was like the fifty sixth minute

600
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: or something like.

601
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: You couldn't play. Yeah, fifteen minutes worth of game time

602
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: turned out to be crucial.

603
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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. We are we wessing like it's it's truly

604
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: a golden generation of of soccer. And I know that

605
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: the older generation probably is not happy. But him and

606
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: Christiano Ronaldo, I mean, I don't know if we'll get

607
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: a better, better roun of international stars.

608
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting too, where I said to my girl,

609
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: like looking at Messy, I'm like, he doesn't look like much,

610
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if you just saw

611
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: the guy, you wouldn't think world class too. Yeah that's

612
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: but you start thinking about various sports, who would be

613
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: the guy who's a star that you'd be like, really,

614
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I don't know it's

615
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: I think Jokic. I al, he's seven feet tall. But

616
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: if you just saw the guy, the baby, he's as

617
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: good as he is.

618
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: The kid.

619
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Speaker 5: Picture makes you like that guy grew up to be

620
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: the best player in the NBA.

621
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Speaker 2: Like sure, yeah, even now, if like I always just

622
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: think if we're like picking teams like you're at the

623
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Speaker 2: y or wherever you run full court and you see Yoki,

624
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: you would have no idea he's got the game that

625
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: he has.

626
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the last place, this last pick, and he's

627
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: the best player usually.

628
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but still he's enormous. I mean, like, right, like

629
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, to be perfectly honest with you, that's a

630
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: good one. If he didn't have such like a recognizable face,

631
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: Like if you just saw him, just saw a guy

632
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: standing on a subway car who looked like Steph Curry,

633
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: you would be like, yeah, that guy's not one of

634
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: the greatest basketball players to ever walk the earth. Like

635
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: you would just be like, then, that's a guy on

636
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: his way to the office, and he's probably like the

637
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: fourth tallest guy in that office, you know what I mean.

638
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: Like that's like that's just how you would feel about him.

639
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: But you put him on a basketball court, and he

640
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: has some of the best handles and some of the

641
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: best shooting ability of anybody we've ever seen.

642
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: Could we say that about Aaron Rodgers guys? I mean

643
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: he kind of looks like he's on his way to

644
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: burning man right now.

645
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I think about that all the time with

646
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: fighters you've bumped into like a flyweight here or there.

647
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: And if if I don't know, you spilled a drink

648
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: and that guy got mad, you'd be like, bring it

649
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: on and you would have no idea he would tear

650
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: you in half. But yeah, some of these like Pakia,

651
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: you know you bumped into package, Yeah, and he would

652
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: destroy it.

653
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: Though, if he's wearing shorts, you stay away from a

654
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: man with calf the definition like that ever, See I

655
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: just got tree trunks for calves.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, a big name signs his deal and

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Speaker 2: Match so Bryce Young number one overall pick. He signs

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Speaker 2: his rookie contract with the Carolina Panthers. So it's a

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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed four year deal worth just under thirty eight

672
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: million dollars. And I thought, Fellas, we would go back

673
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Speaker 2: in the hot tub time machine to a land of

674
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: a financial enchantment before the rookie wage scale. So the

675
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: rookie wage scale was introduced in twenty eleven. So it

676
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Speaker 2: basically slots what you can make, like the maximum dollars

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00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: you can make as a rookie. And so if you

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Speaker 2: go back to the two thousand and six draft, I

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00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: go back there because Reggie Bush, he was the number

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Speaker 2: two overall pick.

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Speaker 3: And think about this.

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Speaker 2: We always talk about how the running back market has dwindled.

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Speaker 2: These guys are not making big money, the top high

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Speaker 2: end running backs. Reggie Bush, you go back to the

685
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Speaker 2: two thousand and six draft, he signed a six year

686
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: deal worth sixty two million dollars. There was a twenty

687
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: six and a half million was guaranteed. But think about that.

688
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Compare it to Bryce Young, a quarterback who's gonna make

689
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: a little under thirty eight million dollars over four years.

690
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush signed a six year deal worth sixty two

691
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: million dollars with comparable guaranteed money. That's how much the

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00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: rookie wage scale has crushed the running back position way

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Speaker 2: more than any other position. No other position feels that

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Speaker 2: hit more than the running back position. But that's what

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Speaker 2: the the player signed up for. This is the new reality.

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Speaker 2: But man, think about what we had a two running

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Speaker 2: backs going the top twelve. Think about what Bijon Robinson

698
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Speaker 2: number eight overall pick and what Jamir Gibs number twelve

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Speaker 2: overall pick. Think what they would be making without a

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Speaker 2: rookie wage scale but instead darned to team control for

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Speaker 2: the first five years, then could use a franchise tag

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Speaker 2: if they wanted to. It crushes the running back position.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does. And the reason why it does

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Speaker 4: for anybody out there who you know may be thinking themselves, well,

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Speaker 4: don't they stand a chance to get re signed and

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Speaker 4: signed for a huge dollar amount like all these quarterbacks. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's true, but look at longevity. See how many running

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Speaker 4: backs that started their career with Aaron Rodgers that are

709
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Speaker 4: still around today. See how many running backs that started

710
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Speaker 4: their career with even Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott or

711
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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson that are still around today, not many. Like

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Speaker 4: we're talking about a position that has such an insane

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Speaker 4: level of turnover eate because these guys just wear down.

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Speaker 4: And so that's the big problem, that's the big culprit

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Speaker 4: here because Bryce Young. Guess what if Bryce Young is

716
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Speaker 4: anything as good as Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow or

717
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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts or or Patrick Mahomes. You know, I mean,

718
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Speaker 4: we're talking about the best quarterbacks in the league. But

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Speaker 4: if he if he turns out even to have as

720
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Speaker 4: good a talent as Gino Smith this past season with

721
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Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks, he's going to be a rich man

722
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Speaker 4: and he's gonna play in this league for a very,

723
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Speaker 4: very long time. Like that's the reality of the quarterback

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Speaker 4: position because you're protected so well. Running backs are not

725
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Speaker 4: running backs are you know, they're they're being savaged on

726
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Speaker 4: just about every single play, so you know, whether it's

727
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Speaker 4: lower body injury or it's concussion or otherwise, Like, eventually

728
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Speaker 4: they're gonna wear down. And then when they get to

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Speaker 4: the opportunity where they could re up their contract, a

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Speaker 4: lot of teams are gonna go yeah, but we're just

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Speaker 4: gonna go ahead and give it one more year just

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Speaker 4: to be sure, and then you get then you get

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Speaker 4: to that end of your rookie deal, and then these

734
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: teams go, yeah, but we're going to franchise tag you

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Speaker 4: just for one year, just to see how it goes.

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Speaker 4: And then you perform well on the franchise tag and

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Speaker 4: they go, yeah, but we're gonna franchise tag you one

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Speaker 4: more time because it's only one hundred and twenty percent

739
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Speaker 4: of the value of the top five at your position,

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Speaker 4: and that's still very feasible to pay you and get

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Speaker 4: away with before we send you to the trash heap,

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Speaker 4: and you could be somebody else's problem and free agency.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going back now, and I tried it. I

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Speaker 1: should have done before the show.

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Speaker 5: I'm going back and looking at when the last time

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl champion had a thousand yard running back

747
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Speaker 5: during the regular season. I've gotten back to Tampa Bay

748
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Speaker 5: three years ago and I have not found one. So

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Speaker 5: the last three Super Bowl champions Chiefs, Rams, and Bucks

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Speaker 5: have not had a thousand yard rusher during the regular season.

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Speaker 5: It is not a required prerequisite to win a Super Bowl.

752
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Speaker 5: So why are these teams spending all this money? Like

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Speaker 5: I understand why the shift is coming. They blamed it

754
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Speaker 5: on the analytics nerds. They blamed it on this and

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00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: that and the wear and tear. If the end goal

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Speaker 5: is to win a Super Bowl, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: the last three Super Bowl winners, what if they all

758
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Speaker 5: had in common. Great defenses can rush the passer, elite quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: great offenses that can get up and down the field.

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Speaker 1: Guess what I'm not saying in that phrase.

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Speaker 5: An elite running back that's got fifteen hundred yards rushing

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Speaker 5: during the regular season to carry the mail. That's not

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Speaker 5: what wins the Super Bowl people. So why are teams

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Speaker 5: allocating high values of money towards It doesn't make sense

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Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, we get all that, but it's capped, that's the

767
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Speaker 2: whole thing. When they could be cashing in, they can't

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Speaker 2: because of the rookie wage scale. Coming up next, what's

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Speaker 2: your biggest top ten beef?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: We got top ten lists Scalore over here.

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Speaker 3: That is on the way.

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Speaker 2: should be. Oh, so we've got a Madden Top ten

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Speaker 2: quarterback list, we've got an ESPN Top ten quarterback list.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the latest one, the Madden QB list.

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Speaker 2: So Madden NFL twenty four, they've released their rankings. Here,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes number one on the list, ninety nine. You know,

782
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Speaker 2: he's in the ninety nine club, which is a big

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Speaker 2: deal in Madden.

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Speaker 4: And no beef.

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Speaker 2: No beef with that one second before we unveil the

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Speaker 2: last the rest of the top ten list, can we

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Speaker 2: just dive into Mahomes just for a second here, because

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Speaker 2: we know how great the dude is. But there was

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Speaker 2: one thing I thought about this week that I wanted

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Speaker 2: to throw out there, just how studley the season was

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Where you think about.

793
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Speaker 2: This, he loses Tyreek Hill, he wins a regular season MVP,

794
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: throws for over fifty two hundred yards forty one touchdowns,

795
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: leads the league in both categories without Tyreek Hill, thrown

796
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: to guys like Juju Smith and Marquez Valdez Scantling, and

797
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, like outside of Trav Kelsey, it's not a

798
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 2: who's who. So he wins regular season MVP, wins Super

799
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Speaker 2: Bowl MVP. And then we always talk about this, guys,

800
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: how big of an advantage it is if you've got

801
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: a top quarterback on a rookie contract. Look at mahomes

802
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: path through the playoffs. He beats Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence on

803
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: a rookie deal, he beats Cincy Joe Burrow on a

804
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: rookie deal, beats Philly Jalen Hurts on a rookie deal,

805
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: and meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes signed his deal for half a

806
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: billion dollars Like that is unbelievable what he was able

807
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: to do, putting all of that together on top of

808
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: an ankle injury that he suffered in the second quarter

809
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Speaker 2: of their first playoff game.

810
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Speaker 3: It was sensational what the dude did last season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he Look, I don't think it's hyperbolic to

812
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: say he's one of the greatest football players we've ever

813
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Speaker 4: seen at the NFL level. He's gonna be a Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer, And that's something that I was saying really

815
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: before last season, and you guys could attest to it.

816
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Speaker 4: I think he's accomplished already so much, and we've only

817
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 4: known this guy for some part of six seasons. You know,

818
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 4: it's it's it's unfathomable what he's accomplished. So yeah, look,

819
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: throw it feels like right now, you know, throw some

820
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: wood and some nails in his yard. The next day

821
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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a mansion built. It doesn't matter what

822
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Speaker 4: supplies he has, he's gonna be able to make a

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Speaker 4: masterpiece out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I just finished a quarterback nice I thought it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, it was kind of like a watered

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Speaker 5: down version of Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: There was not a lot of drama.

829
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Speaker 5: We already knew how the season was going to play

830
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: out for the Chiefs, so it was like watching the

831
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Speaker 5: Titanic knowing it was going to sink.

832
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Speaker 1: Like I knew they were gonna win the Super Bowl.

833
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Speaker 5: I knew all of the little, you know, moments with

834
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Speaker 5: the injury to his ankle and how it would happen.

835
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Speaker 5: So there wasn't as much drama in it like there

836
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Speaker 5: is in Hard Knocks, I think. But I thought it

837
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Speaker 5: did a really good job of showing you the greatness

838
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Speaker 5: of Patrick Mahomes and his weekly routine, which I know

839
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Speaker 5: every quarterback probably goes through that, but I don't know

840
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Speaker 5: if they go through it to the extent that he

841
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: does and the things that he does to his body

842
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Speaker 5: to make himself more pliable, flexible, and most likely if

843
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 5: he didn't do that work during the regular season that

844
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Speaker 5: nobody sees, nobody gives him praise about. That injury that

845
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Speaker 5: happened against Jacksonville probably lasts another week, and they might

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs might be.

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Speaker 1: Out of playoff contention after that.

848
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Speaker 5: Like if he doesn't come back and he's not playing

849
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Speaker 5: at that level against the Bengals the following week, they

850
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: don't win that game, and it's maybe the Bengals lifting

851
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 5: the Lombardi Trophy last year and not the Chiefs. So again,

852
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: those little things that make an athlete great. It's not

853
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: the performance on the field that's like one percent of

854
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 5: what they do. It's the other stuff that really makes

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00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: you great. The internal intestinal fortitude. You have to bounce

856
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: back week after week, take the hits, do the work,

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Speaker 5: the little things that you get no praise for.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes Patrick ball.

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Speaker 4: Let me jump in here real quick, Brian, because I

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Speaker 4: want to back up with what Jared's saying by because

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Speaker 4: I lived it and I know exactly what he's talking about.

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00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: In that those scenes where they're showing you, you know,

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00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: training room footage and all those things. What's so interesting

864
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Speaker 4: about the NFL because in college football you see this sometimes,

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Speaker 4: but it's not every player. There are just certain guys

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Speaker 4: who you know, they can roll their helmet out there

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Speaker 4: and they can play ball and you're just amazed by them.

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Speaker 4: But at some point they get weeded out, you know,

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Speaker 4: whether it's due to injury or it's due to the

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Speaker 4: fact that they get to the next level, to the

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Speaker 4: NFL level, and it doesn't pan out for them. Hard

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00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 4: work is sort of the barrier to entry in the NFL.

873
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: There's very few people who can get to the NFL

874
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: level and party all the time and not take care

875
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: of their body and have a long and great career.

876
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: It's almost impossible. So everybody's working hard. Everybody works really

877
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: hard to get back on the field after an injury.

878
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 4: There are some examples where guys don't maybe they're becoming

879
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: a little complacent, but for the majority of people, you

880
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: are working really really hard to get back to the

881
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: field on an injury. And then look, there's smart guys,

882
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: there's fast guys, there's quick healers, and all those things.

883
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: But there are certain guys who have all of it

884
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 4: where you look at them and you're just like, how

885
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: is this even fair? Like I'm still recovering from an MCL.

886
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: This guy had an ACL surgery and he looks like

887
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: he's in better shape than I'm right now. Like they

888
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: have the strength, they have the speed, and I'm talking

889
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 4: about the innates speed and strength. But then they also

890
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: work hard and they get in the training room and

891
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: every single physical therapy modality works better for them than

892
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 4: it does for everybody else. It's almost like the hand

893
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: of God has touched them and made them different from

894
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: the rest of us. That is the type of athlete

895
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 4: that when you're around them, you it's it's it feels

896
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 4: that's when you truly feel like life's unfair, Like you're

897
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: just like this person has they have everything, they have

898
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: all the intangibles. That's what it feels like. When we're

899
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: talking about Patrick Mahomes, like he truly is one of

900
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: the hardest working guys. He's super intelligent. He does all

901
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: the work that everybody else is doing, it just works

902
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: better for him, like based on whatever innate, God given

903
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: abilities he's had in the first place. It's crazy to watch,

904
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: but I've seen it before it and it feels it

905
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: feels bizarrely unfair when you're around a person like that.

906
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna sound weird, but I love the point

907
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: about stretching because it's so true.

908
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: It really is.

909
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: Where I was just reading something recently about Raiders defensive

910
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: end Max Crosby, and he says he stretches every day.

911
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not gonna be able to bend around

912
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: a tackle and hit the quarterback if I don't stretch

913
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: every single day. It is a big part of NFL

914
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: life right there, especially depending on your position. Okay, so

915
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: if you get back to the Madden quarterback rankings, I

916
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: want you guys to tell me what your biggest beef is. Okay,

917
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: I'll try to go slow because it's gonna sound like, well,

918
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: wah wah wa, why might just like speed through it.

919
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think big big beef. In the first three,

920
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: right Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen. Then we get to the

921
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: four through seven range, Okay, Lamar at number four Jalen Hurts,

922
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert Dak and then eight through ten Aaron Rodgers,

923
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to a tongue of II Loo.

924
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: What is your biggest beef in that top ten?

925
00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: Okay, my biggest beef is Jalen Hurts being outside of

926
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: the top three.

927
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: Outside the top three.

928
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way. I mean,

929
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Madden, this is an annual updating that occurs.

930
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts deserves to be in the top three. And

931
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: I don't care which of the two you knocked down

932
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 4: to four, Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, but one of

933
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: them's beneath Jalen Hurts. We just saw this guy on

934
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: the biggest stage put up the best quarterback numbers of

935
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: all time. I mean, even better than Patrick Mahomes who

936
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: beat his team, and he's in fourth place behind Joe

937
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: Burrow and Josh Allen. I'm sorry, did they did they

938
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: make it to the super Bowl this year?

939
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: Well, he's behind Lamar also.

940
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 4: No, I know, I mean that's obvious. I mean, yeah,

941
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: he should be ahead of Lamar.

942
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would, I would flip Jalen and Lamar. I

943
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: think you give Josh Allen the benefit of the doubt

944
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: for one more year. But as even see Jack even

945
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 5: Jackpots not happy about Lamar.

946
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: About Lamar and Jalen jack Pott.

947
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, Jackpots being jack Potts being very.

948
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am close. I am close

949
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: to putting him outside for the rest of it.

950
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

951
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna give him the Mahomes treatment. I'm

952
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: gonna make him do wind sprints in the in the

953
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 5: summer heat.

954
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I think I think Justin Herbert, Let's just leave it

955
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: at this.

956
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 5: If I was projecting next year's Madden ratings, Justin Herbert's

957
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 5: higher than seventh.

958
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: That's all I'll say.

959
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: I think he's in the top five next year if

960
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 5: things go as expected with our new friend Kellen Moore

961
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: and not you know, check down Charlie at offensive coordinator here,

962
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: I think I can see Justin Herbert ahead of Dak Prescott.

963
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 5: I think I can see Justin Herbert, maybe even ahead

964
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 5: of Jackson. And then I do think Josh Allen is kind.

965
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Of in this no man's land this year.

966
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 5: I am a little bit intrigued with what the Bills

967
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 5: have now. They drafted Dalton Kinkaid, who is arguably the

968
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: best receiving tight end perhaps in the entire league now

969
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 5: with the exception of Travis Kelce. I'm very excited to

970
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 5: see what that connection does to Josh Allen.

971
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I fully trust Ken Dorsey.

972
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 5: And I don't like what happened with I don't love

973
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: the internals of what's happening with the Bills. I don't

974
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: love Sean McDermott now having to be the defensive coordinator

975
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 5: in addition to being the head coach, and now that

976
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 5: the message of Brian Dabel has really left the building

977
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: two years out, I don't know what. Like Josh Allen

978
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: did not take a step forward last year without Brian Dabele,

979
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 5: he took a step back. Now you could take one

980
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 5: step forward and in one step back, and that's possible.

981
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: Maybe this year he takes a step forward and he

982
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 5: kind of takes control of that offense a little. But

983
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 5: if he doesn't, that's where I think the Bills could

984
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 5: be a bit of an interesting handicap this year. So

985
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 5: I think Justin Herbert has the most upside on this

986
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 5: list because we did not get the best Herbert last season.

987
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see him unleash this year.

988
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 5: And I would put your guy to a you know,

989
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: I could see him jumping Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers

990
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 5: in the top ten there, and you know, I could

991
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: see a top five next year that's Mahomes, Burrow, Hurtz,

992
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: Herbert and Tua. That to me might be your best

993
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: five quarterbacks in the league this season based off.

994
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Of kind of a little bit of that context that

995
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: we use.

996
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, my biggest beef is Lamar at number four. I

997
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: don't know who is drunk or high. Yeah, at Madden

998
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: to have Lamar at number four, it's a flat out joke.

999
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this too, Like we always

1000
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: talk trash about the Chargers wright how they have like

1001
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: this talent and you see some production in the regular season,

1002
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: but then nothing come playoff time and they always let

1003
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: you down. Lamar Jackson is the player version of the Chargers.

1004
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: That's the truth here, And I want to be very clear.

1005
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you he can't play because he has

1006
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: great ability. He's got great talent, but similar to the Chargers,

1007
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: when it's all on the line, when it's playoff time,

1008
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: he's throwing a pick six against the Bills, Like he's

1009
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: got more interceptions than touchdowns in the playoffs.

1010
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: He's just an inconsistent.

1011
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: Player and the durability issues he's missed five games each

1012
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: of the last two years, and he's the fourth quarterback

1013
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: right now? Are you serious? Like that's just crazy to me.

1014
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 4: I don't get it. I mean, I mean, also, we're

1015
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: using what we know about these players to predict the

1016
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: future of these players. Like it's not like we can

1017
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: look into a crystal ball and say, well, Lamar Jackson's

1018
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: gonna have a great twenty twenty three. It's like, well, well,

1019
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: we'll hang on a second. Like, all we know of

1020
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is what we know of Lamar Jackson necessarily

1021
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 4: predict But what we can say is we can say,

1022
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: based on evidence, he is a sensational athlete. He has

1023
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: he has a good enough arm to play in this league,

1024
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: there's no question, and he's ran that Ravens offense extremely

1025
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: well and they've won a bunch of games since he's

1026
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: gotten there. But he's also fragile. Like, I mean, is

1027
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: he a guy that you can count on for seventeen

1028
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: games right now? The answer is no. You know, so

1029
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 4: when I see Lamar Jackson ahead of Jalen Hurts, yeah,

1030
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 4: I mean that makes zero sense because right now Jalen Hurts,

1031
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 4: is he as fast as him? No? Is he as

1032
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: good of an athlete. No, is he available and doing

1033
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: the things that made Lamar Jackson special four years ago

1034
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: at a very high level now for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yes,

1035
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: so he should absolutely be higher than Lamar Jackson. But

1036
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: I can make that same argument for Allen and Burrow

1037
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: when you can compare him to when you can compare

1038
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 4: both of their last years to Jalen Hurts last year.

1039
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about the second overall in the

1040
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 4: MVP voting last year in Jail and Hurts. So it

1041
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: just doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

1042
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: But look, Madden loves this because the EA Sports loves

1043
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 4: is because we're talking about it. They love doing this.

1044
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 5: Tis Yeah, I think a lot of these guys using

1045
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 5: the Madden ratings now is leveraging contract negotiations. Is kind

1046
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 5: of a sign of the times, and that is happening.

1047
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 5: That is happening in real time. We have seen a

1048
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 5: lot of and I forget.

1049
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: Who it was.

1050
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 5: I think it was an offensive lineman and a couple

1051
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: of running backs as well, like looking at the ratings

1052
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 5: like yeah, I'm underpaid, and guys that this is a

1053
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 5: dangerous game.

1054
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: This is AI slowly taking over the world is what

1055
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: this is.

1056
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 5: And the quarterback situation, I think is a little different

1057
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 5: because it's such a cerebral position that there needs to

1058
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 5: be a little ai in involved with kind of grading

1059
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: these guys. But for some of the running backs and

1060
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 5: for some of the offensive line, it's just it's really

1061
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: tough to use this Madden rating as gospel. I mean,

1062
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 5: this is a video game, guys, but it is becoming that.

1063
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 5: And you see how much run the rating releases. It's

1064
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 5: all I saw on my Twitter feed this week. Now,

1065
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: granted is July. It's slow, but I get notifications when

1066
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 5: Schefter and a couple of other big time news breakers tweet,

1067
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 5: you know, I get the notification sent right to my phone.

1068
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: All week long.

1069
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 5: It was just Madden release notifications, and I'm just like, well,

1070
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: it's just really breaking news. Like now, I guess it

1071
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: kind of is because these guys are using these ratings

1072
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 5: as gospel, and it's truly remarkable to kind of see

1073
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 5: how a video game views the NFL and how we

1074
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: as human beings project ourselves onto this video game as

1075
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: this is law. They say that mahomes and and I

1076
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 5: think that's the one that's the only thing that I

1077
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: think is fair here, Mahome's the best player in the sport.

1078
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, the rest of it kind of up for debate.

1079
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: Two spot, three spot, maybe Burrow being seconds pretty fair.

1080
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: But after that, I think all three of us probably

1081
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: can make a different case for who the number three

1082
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: quarterback on this list might be.

1083
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, there's a lot of it changes

1084
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: quickly in the NFL where you might have a down

1085
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: individual season or you have a down team season and

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: that hurts your individual stock, if you will. So, yeah,

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of jostling, a lot of Yeah, it's

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: kind of like the college football rankings where it moves.

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00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: You know, whoever you have in week one, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: change the next couple of weeks. It's similar like that,

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00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: not as much movement, but there is some jockeying over

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: with the quarterback list, There's no doubt about that. We

1093
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: got a lot to do over here. We've got Rich Ornberger,

1094
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: Penn State All American. We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: Got to have a talking to with Jack Pott here.

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Oh he's going outside during.

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: The bridge, he's out of here. I'm probably right now. Yeah,

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: don't do it. I'm sorry, I couldn't help uh. A

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: compelling argument about the downside of a major change that's

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Speaker 2: on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin made an interesting point during SEC media Days.

1108
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: He was talking about nil right players getting paid for name,

1109
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: image and likeness and also the transfer portal. So that's

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: the sound that you're gonna hear right here about the

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: transfer portal makes a compelling case.

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Speaker 3: Check this out.

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't think that.

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Speaker 9: There's any other sports at any level that are like this,

1115
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 9: that really you every year can opt into free agency,

1116
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 9: really twice a year. And I mean, I was just

1117
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 9: singing on a plane ride over here. What if you

1118
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 9: had that in other sports? You know, Tom Brady, Asia Wilson,

1119
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 9: Lionel Messi, Lebron James.

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: What if every year those guys.

1121
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 9: Can opt into free agency twice a year, really, and

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00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 9: they had no long term contracts. Basically, everybody's not even

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 9: on a one month contract because they can leave in

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 9: two windows. So it's just created a lot of issues

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 9: and these roster changes. And I'm not complaining about it

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 9: because we take advantage obviously of free agency. But at

1127
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 9: the same time, I don't think that's really good for

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 9: college football.

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Speaker 2: Look, man, he makes a compelling case where that's a

1130
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: great comparison. If you think about other sports, if there

1131
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: really are no contracts in the NBA or NFL and

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00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: it's free agency, would be wild, and that's exactly what

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: we have in college football.

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Speaker 3: I hear him on that.

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is he's not saying we should

1136
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: do away with this, we should do away with nil,

1137
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: we should do away with the transfer bortal. He's kind

1138
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: of like it's the Playboy method. He's like tastefully done.

1139
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Like that's what he not get rid of it. It's like,

1140
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: we should do it tastefully here. And I hear him

1141
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: on that. He's not saying get rid of the whole thing.

1142
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: It's just it's creating some issues. Look man, that's how

1143
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: life works. There are plenty of times where you could

1144
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: point to something and say, hey, I'm not against this

1145
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: in totality, but there are some drawbacks. I think that's

1146
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: completely reasonable. The last thing I'll say is I think

1147
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: this can be worse for college football coaches than it

1148
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: is for college football, because when you get this type

1149
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: of movement, I'm sorry, but it makes it more interesting.

1150
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see Sam Hartman as Notre Dame's

1151
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: quarterback transferring from Wake Forest. Think about Joe Burrow when

1152
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: he transferred to LSU. It creates a lot of excitement.

1153
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: So while it's not ideal for coaches and you got

1154
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: to keep recruiting the guys that you currently have, it

1155
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: leads to a lot of problems. I don't think it's

1156
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: bad for college football at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I meet with a lot of college football coaches

1158
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: throughout the football season calling games at the college football level,

1159
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: and I could tell you, pretty much to a man,

1160
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 4: every single one of them hates the new rules, both

1161
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: nil and the transfer portal rules. They just don't think

1162
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: it's good for the game. They don't think it's good

1163
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: for the kids, and some of them, I feel like

1164
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: are telling the gods honest truth that they don't feel

1165
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 4: like it's good for the kids, meaning the young men

1166
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 4: who are coming out of their family homes and now

1167
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Speaker 4: in the care of these you know, professional coaches who

1168
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: are supposed to help, you know, lead them and guide

1169
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 4: them through the next couple of years of their life

1170
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Speaker 4: alongside winning some football games. Well, here's the thing. I like.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these coaches I talk to. A lot

1172
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: of them are good people, and I really do feel

1173
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: that way. But then there's also a lot of college

1174
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: coaches who, if I'm being perfectly honest with you, I

1175
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: find them to be completely inauthentic. And I think that

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Speaker 4: the way that college football and college sports in general

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Speaker 4: has been set up for a long time has really

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Speaker 4: benefited coaches and virtually nobody else. It doesn't benefit a

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Speaker 4: university for a coach to get offered a job at

1180
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Speaker 4: a better school and for that coach to break his

1181
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: contract because he's going to a school that can afford

1182
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 4: the exit clause and then buy his house and then

1183
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: buy him a new house and pay him all sorts

1184
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Speaker 4: of money to come to their new school to coach

1185
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: their new players. Like, that's not good for anybody. That's

1186
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: not good for the players. That's not good for the university,

1187
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: that's not good for the economy, the local economy in

1188
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 4: the tun that he's leaving, But it's good for the coach.

1189
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Speaker 4: So every time I hear a college football coach openly

1190
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 4: complain about the new rules, just remember where the rules

1191
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: came from. The rules came from a place where it

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: benefited basically only head coaches. And now we're in a

1193
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 4: situation where finally there's some equity in this situation, and

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: they're belly aching. I'm sorry, that's the world's smallest violin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like, what's the book Who Moved My cheese?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: We would things? When things change, people don't like them.

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01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 5: When Jackpot gets put in crates, he doesn't like it either.

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Speaker 5: He has been I tell you every single day today,

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Speaker 5: you're a bad boy.

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Speaker 3: He is raging.

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah he is.

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Speaker 1: But I'll give you the other side to this.

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Speaker 5: Josh Hipel, who also came out during SEC media Day

1205
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 5: and said, at the end of the day, this is

1206
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Speaker 5: the upper tunity that I wish that I had when

1207
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Speaker 5: I was playing.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that. I think a

1209
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Speaker 1: lot of that.

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Speaker 5: Is it all stems from these guys' histories and their past.

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Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin came up through a very different, you know,

1212
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Speaker 5: situation that I think a lot of these guys did did.

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Speaker 5: I don't recall did he play major college football. I

1214
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 5: don't remember if he did or not. I might be

1215
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: wrong on that.

1216
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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he did.

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Speaker 4: Daddy was a coach, we know that, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Backup quarterback at Fresno State, he was never even if

1220
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Speaker 5: he even if he played today, he would not have been.

1221
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Speaker 1: In the mix for the big nil deals.

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Speaker 5: So right, like this kind of comes from a place

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Speaker 5: of I don't want to say entitlement, but Lane's probably like, ah,

1224
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Speaker 5: I would have never got this money back then, So

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Speaker 5: why did these kids need to get like it? It

1226
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like it's coming from a place of authenticity

1227
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 5: when Lane gives this kind of a feedback because there's

1228
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 5: other coaches in his league.

1229
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: Josh Heipel that came out the same day and.

1230
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 5: Said, man, I wish I had this opportunity when I

1231
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 5: was And if I recalled, Josh was very prominent quarterback

1232
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 5: at Oklahoma won a national championship. If I recall, I

1233
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 5: might he might have lost in the national championship, But

1234
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 5: I remember that was a really good Sooners team that

1235
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 5: he played for, and it just it feels like every

1236
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 5: coach's backstory, depending on where they came from, is going

1237
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 5: to have a different.

1238
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: Vibe about what's happening.

1239
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 5: Here's the only constant in all of this, Lane, I

1240
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 5: don't care if you like it or not.

1241
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: The nil money ain't going anywhere.

1242
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 5: So you either adapt to it and you make it

1243
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 5: benefit you, You turn a negative into a positive, or

1244
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 5: you just shut your mouth into your job. Because coming

1245
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 5: out and saying this is I mean, I'm reading the

1246
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 5: quotes right now from Milank given he called it a

1247
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 5: disaster end quote. That is pretty harsh for something that

1248
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 5: a lot of people think is a very positive thing. Now,

1249
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: could there be adjustments to the rules to make it

1250
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 5: a little cleaner, a little more fair. Absolutely totally in

1251
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 5: favor of that, But saying that is a far cry

1252
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 5: from quote it's a disaster. Right, Like, there's a happy

1253
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 5: medium that I think most and Lane doesn't care about.

1254
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't care about anything that I say.

1255
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 5: But he also does not care about making a stir

1256
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 5: right Like he kind of likes it.

1257
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: He likes being the center of attention.

1258
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 5: He likes causing that disruption By saying something as extreme

1259
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 5: as this is a disaster, you're going to get headlines

1260
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: the down the middle approaches. Nil's not going anywhere. It's

1261
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: unfortunate that I didn't get this when I was coming

1262
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 5: up through the ranks.

1263
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: But it's here now.

1264
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 5: Let's make it the best possible because the kids deserve

1265
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: the money. At the end of the day, the kids

1266
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 5: deserve the money. They really deserve the money, and they

1267
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: need the money. But we just have to make it cleaner.

1268
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: I guess is the word that I would use, but

1269
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 5: I would not use the word disaster that Lane used.

1270
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: That's what I get it.

1271
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: But that's the I don't know that's catches the headlines,

1272
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: that type of thing. But what really is happening here

1273
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: is Lane Kiffin is making some legitimate points. He's complaining

1274
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: about his job that when we whittle it down to it,

1275
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: that's what it is. And so take your job. Do

1276
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: you complain about your job in facets? You know, is

1277
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: the commute great?

1278
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: Is uh?

1279
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: Whatever?

1280
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: Pay hours? You know, when your day starts, there's always

1281
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: gonna be a complaint somewhere. That doesn't mean you're ungrateful

1282
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: for your job. That doesn't mean you hate it and totality.

1283
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: And so with Lane Kiffin saying, man, we got free

1284
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 2: agency twice a year.

1285
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: This is tough the.

1286
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: NIL day and age. If we don't bring as much

1287
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: money to the table and the guy goes to another

1288
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: SEC team, that's that's tough. I hear him on that. Yeah,

1289
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: I completely hear because unless you talk about your job

1290
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: like oh, the commute, I love it.

1291
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: The pay, that's great, you know, you know.

1292
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is he's just he's he's bringing

1293
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: up some challenges that are valid. The time a coach

1294
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: says nil, get rid of it. Freaking hate it. It's

1295
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: the worst. Now we got something to go on. If

1296
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, it's good, it just leads to challenges.

1297
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 4: What's wrong with that? Lane Kiffin's a millionaire. Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 4: is a million millionaire many times over. Like how about this?

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Speaker 4: How about the kid who comes from a poor and

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: I mean dirt poor family who the only reason why

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: he's at the university he's at is because of his

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 4: football playing talent. And I'm talking about you know, rewind

1303
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 4: the clock five years ago or even shorter amount of

1304
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: time than that before NIL, before the newer transfer portal

1305
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 4: and say you have an opportunity potentially, based on your name, image,

1306
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: and likeness, to make hundreds of thousands, if not millions,

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 4: of dollars while you're a college athlete. But they're all

1308
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 4: these roadblocks in the way. And then you know you

1309
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 4: have an opportunity potentially to transfer to a program that

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 4: may value your importance to their program more than the

1311
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 4: current college or university you're at, and you you're not

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 4: allowed to do that, or if you do, you're going

1313
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 4: to be penalized by sitting on the bench for a

1314
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Speaker 4: year behind other less talented athletes. Like the rules, the

1315
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: rules that were stacked up against the players for literally

1316
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 4: decades and decades and decades throughout the history of college football.

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01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 4: We're so wildly unfair for the players that when I

1318
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: hear Lane Kiffen complain about how yeah, ge g howdy,

1319
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: it's tough keeping players in my program, I.

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Speaker 3: Like impression, Yeah, I gotta go through I.

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 10: Gotta go through a free agency twice. You know what this,

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 10: I guess, But any of these college coaches, I gotta

1323
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 10: go home and sit in my pool grotto cooking. Am

1324
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 10: I swim up having a dress?

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: Not saying any of that. You're making it out to

1326
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 3: be that. He's not said any of those things.

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01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, every time I hear a coach

1328
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 4: complain about this and and I and I think I

1329
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: want to mop up their tears with a biscuit and

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01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: eat it.

1331
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: You're creating tears.

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: You sound like Tom Rinaldi, creating this tear jerker of

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01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: a story.

1334
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: Love. He's never said, he.

1335
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: Never said, oh, these players, they don't deserve it. They

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: shouldn't be allowed to transfer, they shouldn't be allowed to

1337
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: make any money. He's just saying there are challenges as

1338
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 2: a result of that. No, that's all he's saying.

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: Right, And you know what, good, I'm glad there are

1340
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 4: I hope there are more. I don't care, because guess what,

1341
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: it was more challenging for that poor kid to leave

1342
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: his home and literally have to ask to borrow money

1343
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,959
Speaker 4: to get enough money to buy a sandwich for himself,

1344
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 4: like I've seen many times over during my college football career,

1345
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: because guess what, a scholarship doesn't buy you food when

1346
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: you get to the university and when your meal card

1347
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 4: runs out. The coaches and again that it's different now,

1348
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: But when when we're talking about five years ago they would.

1349
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 4: It would be pumps to the guy that'd be like, hey, look,

1350
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: I can't give you any money otherwise we'll get censured

1351
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 4: by the NCAA. Sorry, you got to go figure it out.

1352
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 4: Maybe borrow some money from one of your one of

1353
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 4: your buddies, on one of your teammates. I mean, the

1354
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 4: rules were stacked against these place for so long. So

1355
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 4: when Lane Kiven complains, when he says, hey, yeah, you

1356
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 4: know we're going through free agency twice a year.

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to complain here in a second because

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: our man, I Low, oh yeah, he's just you ever

1359
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: see pro wrestlers like on the like the outside of

1360
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,480
Speaker 2: the ropes.

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: Just reaching want to be tagged in.

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 2: It's he's been reaching for a long time, you know,

1363
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: and we're tagging him in right now.

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Speaker 3: I Low with the latest tier.

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Speaker 8: This report presented by Rich Ornberger's tear stained biscuits. They're

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,879
Speaker 8: salty but delicious. That's one of the goblins.

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Speaker 4: I'll gob them up. I'll goble them up.

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Speaker 8: It's one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in

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Speaker 8: sports talk radio.

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: I want up.

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01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 8: I want to mop up their tears with a biscuit

1372
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 8: and eat it.

1373
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: Do you mind?

1374
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 8: If do you mind if the rest of us borrow

1375
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 8: that line occasionally, we'll we're complaining.

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 4: That's for you, America.

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 8: Man, that's a great product. Rich Ornberger's tear stained biscuits.

1378
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 4: You heard him here.

1379
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 8: First Team USA not shedding any tears because they won

1380
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 8: their Women's World Cup opener Saturday over Vietnam three to nothing.

1381
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 8: Sophia Smith scored a pair of goals. Team captain Lindsay

1382
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 8: Horan had the other. Leonel Messi made his Major League

1383
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 8: Soccer debut on Friday night for Enter Miami in a

1384
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 8: League's Cup confrontation over cruz Azul of Mexico. They were

1385
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 8: tied at one in second half stoppage time, with Messi

1386
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 8: over the ball for a free kick. On Apple TV.

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 2: Here it is Messi and that was the match winner.

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 8: In round three of the British Open, American Brian Harmon

1389
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 8: has the lead at ten under par overall. He is

1390
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 8: teeing off the third round as we speak. John Rahm

1391
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 8: opened the day tied for thirty ninth place, but he

1392
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 8: has just shot an eight under par sixty three. It's

1393
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 8: his lowest score ever in a major tournament, so he

1394
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 8: has gone thirty seven spots up the leaderboard and is

1395
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 8: now in sole possession of second place, four shots behind

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 8: Harmon at six under par overall. In Major League Baseball.

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 8: On Friday night, Kyle Tucker of the Houston Astros hit

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 8: three home runs, including one in the first inning.

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Speaker 11: Jackpot, Jackpott, It's okay, Jackpott, easy there, Jackpot, take it

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 11: easy there, Jackpot apparently not happy.

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: About sick'm Jackpot, get them.

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01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 8: First inning home run, but no three home runs for

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 8: Tucker in a six to four victory at Oakland Show.

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 8: Hey Otani got the win on the mound in the

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 8: Angels eight to four victory over the Pirates despite allowing

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 8: a career high four home runs, and the Seattle Mariners

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01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 8: defeated the Toronto Blue Jays three to two. Tay Oscar

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 8: Hernandez the game winning RBI single in the bottom of

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 8: ninth And all right, all right, Jackpott, I'll send it

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Speaker 8: back to the guys. Back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: We might yell at each other next hour about this

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Speaker 2: whole Lane Kiffin situation, cause I love we're getting a

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Speaker 2: lot of traction.

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Speaker 5: The most tweets I've seen from this show during a

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Speaker 2: We'll sort compact too, that for sure, absolutely will next

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Speaker 2: hour coming up next This comparison is just crazy. We'll

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Speaker 2: Progressive dot com. So sometimes you make a bad comparison,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you make a bad argument. It happens

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 2: from time to time. Tim Hardaway seen is the latest.

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01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: So he was on the Carton Show on FS one

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: and he was talking about bull Bull versus Victor Wembin Yama.

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: Here is the hot take.

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 12: I think he's better than Victor. Yes, Bull Bull has

1440
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 12: better physical talent and ready to play in the NBA

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 12: right now than Victory is okay.

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: So there we are with the Bull Bull who physically,

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, not exactly imposing, not exactly like grown

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: into his frame if you will, you know he's a

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: very light guy as well. I look at it like this, Guys,

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: you ever hear the saying, I assure I know you have.

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: If you're even, you're leaving. Think about football, right, if

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01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 2: you're a wide receiver, if you're even with a defensive back,

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: a receiver with big time speed, let's say it's Tyreek Hill.

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: If you're even with that dB, you're leaving. That's how

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01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: I think it is with Bull Bowl versus Victor wen

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: Bin Yama. Even if you think they're even right now,

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: Wemby is leaving Bull Bull in the dust. And I

1454
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: don't care where it is right now, it's where it's headed.

1455
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: So I just I think that's a dramatically horrible, horrible

1456
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: argument because you had Bull Bull just got waved by Orlando,

1457
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: Like do you what do you think the chances are?

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01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: Three years from now that wem bin Yama just gets

1459
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: waved by the Spurs like slim to none. So I

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01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: just think I don't care where it is right now,

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: it's where it's headed, and I think wen ben Yama's

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: going to be head and shoulders above bull Bowl in

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01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: terms of production when it's all said and done.

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, draft analysts get things wrong all the time.

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01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 4: There's no question that there have been bust in the NFL,

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 4: the NBA, major League Baseball, across all sports when you're

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: trying to make predictions on the future of players. But

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 4: the acclaim, and I'm not talking about just the you know,

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01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: the tagger alongers. I'm talking about the initial acclaim for

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01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 4: Victor Wemenyama. You know, the analysts, the people who saw

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 4: him play in France, the coaches who were recruiting him

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: at various levels of his basketball career, and then essentially

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01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 4: the coaches who then selected him with the first overall

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: lottery pick in this year's NBA draft. And these are

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 4: some of the most respected people in the world. Their

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 4: authorities on basketball have spoken in chorus support for Victor

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01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: wemen Yama. I do not remember the same acclaim for

1478
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 4: bawl ball now that's no offense to him. I'm sure

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: my new bull Son is a heck of a ballplayer,

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: and he's definitely got pedigree, and you know, the list

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: of the list of accolades goes on because he played

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: well at Oregon. But like you said, I think the

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 4: futures are going to dictate a very different story for

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 4: these two players.

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01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: He's a heck of a bowl player. Huh, huh. Jokes

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: on jokes on me.

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 5: I think the jokes on anyone who wants to declare

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 5: Victor wembin Yama's future before he's played one NBA game.

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 5: Can we relax with the hot takes about how good

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 5: this kid is going to be. Here's the only thing

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 5: that I can glean from what I watched in Summer League.

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 5: He doesn't deserve to be a two dollars favorite to

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 5: win Rookie the Year. Probably should be closer to a

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 5: coin flip.

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: That's really it. Besides that that he's probably not head

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: and shoulders.

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01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 5: I know physically he is, but maybe not the full

1498
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 5: package above the rest of the rookie class in the NBA.

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 5: Maybe he's just slightly better and deserves to be the favorite,

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01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 5: but not an overwhelming favorite like he was priced at

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 5: coming out of the draft. Besides that, there is no

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 5: definitive claim that I can make about the future of

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 5: his career. Let the kid play a week in the

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 5: league first, a game before we're like declaring a certain

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01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 5: player better than the other.

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's magnic, but.

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: The opposite is equally crazy, not as good as Bowl

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: bull Yeah, all right, coming up next, let's argue about coaches.

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,839
Speaker 2: All right, let's start arguing, shall we about college football

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Speaker 2: head coaches?

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Speaker 2: gonna go. And I didn't anticipate rich Ornberger protecting like

1518
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: college football players as a whole, like they're the quarterback.

1519
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: He went back to being an offensive line.

1520
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 2: He's protecting players, and his rival is the defensive lineman

1521
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: that he's facing is Lane Kiffen, and he's lacking Lane Kiffen.

1522
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Speaker 3: Try did s come out of the way.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I'm not even defending college football players, really,

1524
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just stating a fact, and it's a

1525
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 4: fact about me, and it's it's personal. I I enjoy,

1526
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 4: I sincerely enjoy hearing certain college football coaches complain about

1527
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 4: the transfer portal and complain about name, image and likeness,

1528
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 4: because to me, it's what they're what they're I I

1529
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 4: don't want to say they're avoiding talking about. But what

1530
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 4: is completely being dismissed is as difficult it is for

1531
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 4: college football coaches to recruit at this point and to

1532
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: retain players at this point based on the new rules

1533
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 4: in college football. It uh, it completely covers up or

1534
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 4: or turn the page from the century plus where college

1535
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 4: football players were obviously completely trapped by certain football programs

1536
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 4: in certain cases to stay on scholarship. They were there

1537
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 4: were certain cases where guys were literally stashed on rosters

1538
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: to just keep them from rival colleges, as opposed to

1539
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: allowing them to be you know, transferred to other football

1540
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 4: programs so that they could have you know, great careers

1541
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 4: and flourish maybe on a team that's a rival in

1542
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 4: your conference and if that's best for the college football player.

1543
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 4: Maybe that's best for college football and best for college

1544
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 4: football fans, by the way, but as a result of

1545
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 4: the rules, there were a lot of coaches who would

1546
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: take advantage. And now the door's starting to swing the

1547
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: other way, and all of a sudden, a lot of

1548
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 4: these football coaches are again a little bit uncomfy. And

1549
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: every time I hear it, it just it's it makes

1550
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: my heart swell, it makes makes my heart sing. It's

1551
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 4: it's it's kind of almost humorous to me that when

1552
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 4: the shoes on the other foot, or like as they

1553
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 4: say in hunting, when the rabbit has the gun, it's

1554
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: not so comfy anymore.

1555
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: Well, I understand, I understand where all this is coming from,

1556
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: but I feel like sometimes you're the referee, Jared, you

1557
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like Rich and I just lock

1558
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:28,879
Speaker 2: more And here's Jared playing Mills Lane in a big price. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

1559
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: the late great Mills Lane. I hear everything that you're saying,

1560
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: and I think that listen to be clear, I think

1561
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: that we should be in the nil day and age.

1562
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 3: That's the bare minimum.

1563
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: Players should be able to make a buck off of

1564
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: their names, because they're not making a percentage of the

1565
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: pot that they draw in. I always compare it to

1566
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: if I play in a band and we sell out

1567
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: an arena and we don't see a dime of it.

1568
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: We should at least be able to sell some T

1569
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: shirts and some CDs and the parking lot, you know

1570
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. You couldn't even do that back in

1571
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: the day. So I'm fully behind nil. I'm fully behind

1572
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. If coaches can go from school to

1573
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: school and not have to sit out a year, why

1574
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: can't players do the same thing. I'm not against either

1575
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: of those two things. Neither is Lane, and he's saying

1576
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: it just brings up some challenges. I could lose my

1577
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: starting left tackle in my running back because they hit

1578
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: the transfer portal, or we might not get him in

1579
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: the first place because we're not shelling out as much

1580
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: dough as some other school. He's not against it. It's

1581
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: just turned into some challenges and some coaches are voicing that,

1582
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: and if they voice it, it's like taken as if

1583
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: they're against the whole thing, and they're never making that argument.

1584
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I agree with that take. I think that's

1585
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 5: to me, that's the reasonable part of it. It feels

1586
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 5: like Lane and reason don't always agree. It does seem

1587
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 5: like Lane enjoys the spotlight a little more, and sometimes

1588
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 5: he says things that maybe he doesn't even fully believe,

1589
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 5: just to stir the pod a little bit. I think,

1590
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 5: if I had to guess, this is a guess. He

1591
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 5: just he just got burned by some kid who probably

1592
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 5: got more money to go play somewhere else.

1593
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: And he was doing media day and.

1594
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I can take out my frustrations a

1595
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 5: little bit here and call I mean, let's be honest,

1596
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 5: he used the word disaster. When you use that word,

1597
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: you're looking for attention or you want something to change.

1598
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 5: So maybe it's the latter, maybe it's the former. You

1599
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 5: never know with Lane. He's a bit of a wildcard,

1600
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 5: I think. And I read through a lot of his quotes.

1601
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 5: I had some time over the last twenty minutes or so,

1602
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 5: and I've read through a lot of his quotes about

1603
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 5: this particular issue. Some of it was a little more tempered,

1604
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 5: but he still called the current state of college football

1605
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 5: a disaster. Correct, And I'll read you another quote that

1606
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 5: I thought was interesting. So the revenue sharing sounds really good.

1607
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 5: But then they're like, Okay, well we're gonna have revenue

1608
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 5: share and that's all they get. I say, Okay, well wait,

1609
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 5: but they're still gonna have nil, which really isn't nil

1610
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 5: for probably ninety nine percent of the kids. They're not

1611
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 5: really getting the money for their marketing, right. So I agree, Brian,

1612
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 5: he is trying to reform the system a little bit

1613
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 5: by using his platform, which is a very you know,

1614
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 5: influential platform, to talk about some of the issues. But

1615
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 5: then he said, the current state of college football's a disaster.

1616
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 5: That's that's where he kind of lost me a little bit.

1617
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 5: But it does seem like Lane is trying to fight

1618
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 5: the good fight for the coaches because right now they're

1619
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 5: in a they're in a much more difficult position than

1620
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 5: they were last year.

1621
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, look, I mean the transcript is a transcript.

1622
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 4: What he said is what he said.

1623
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1624
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 4: Look, I'm okay if personally, Brian, you took everything Lane

1625
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: said as just a guy voicing some opinion in about challenges,

1626
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 4: but that's not what he was doing. Lane Kiffin does

1627
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 4: not like these new rules, and I don't blame him

1628
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 4: because he's a head coach, a coach in college football,

1629
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 4: and he's benefited from rules that have benefited head coaches

1630
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 4: for a long time. Like I'll give you a perfect example.

1631
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 4: If you're a coach at University A, and you can

1632
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 4: steal a top recruit from University B who happens to

1633
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 4: be your rival, and stash them on your roster and

1634
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 4: four years promised them playing time and for years tell

1635
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: them that they're the best, and they're just I mean,

1636
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: they're just one turned ankle away from being the next thing.

1637
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 4: And you knew this entire time that you had no

1638
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 4: intention on ever really starting this guy or giving him

1639
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 4: significant playing time. You just didn't want University B to

1640
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 4: have that player. Well you would say, well that's unfair.

1641
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 4: Well that's that was the state of college football. I've

1642
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 4: heard plenty of stories like that. I mean, again, go

1643
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 4: back to the money that the coaches were making and

1644
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 4: the disparity between their salaries and the actual moneies that

1645
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 4: players could benefit from playing college football outside of their tuition, which,

1646
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 4: by the way, every time that debate comes up, it

1647
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,440
Speaker 4: makes me want to vomit because we're talking about tuitions

1648
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 4: in the tens of thousands sometimes or hundreds of thousands

1649
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: of range. When we're talking about head coaches making literally

1650
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars annually. I mean, look at

1651
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 4: all sports. Name the sport where the star player is

1652
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 4: making less than the coach. I mean, it just doesn't happen.

1653
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 4: It's because the players are more important. That's the reality

1654
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:45,799
Speaker 4: of the business. But the business model has completely changed

1655
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 4: the way people feel about professionalism in this country. People

1656
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 4: believe that athletes, because they have been designated as amateurs,

1657
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 4: shouldn't be paid for their work. If these guys were

1658
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 4: working at a law firm, right, or if these guys

1659
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 4: were working on an accounting office and all of a

1660
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: sudden looked at each other and like, why aren't we

1661
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 4: being paid? We should unionize them, there would be a

1662
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 4: lot of support. Or if it was your kid, you

1663
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 4: would be like, wow, I think our kids being taken

1664
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 4: advantage of. But because your fans of the Gators or

1665
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 4: the Seminoles or the Crimson Tide or you know, the Aggies,

1666
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 4: like you just don't care because all you care about

1667
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 4: is that the tailgate hot dogs are hot and the

1668
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 4: ball team's winning. Well, those are people wearing those jerseys

1669
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I'm not the biggest art and supporters

1670
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 4: of these millionaires. Coaches complaining about the fact that it's

1671
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 4: tougher to recruit. Boo hoo, go complain to somebody else.

1672
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 4: And by the way, when you complain about something just

1673
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 4: because you say, and you know what, I'm not complaining,

1674
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 4: but means you're come plaining about something, I love you.

1675
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: But well, here's the thing.

1676
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 2: This is like a larger type deal now where if

1677
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: you don't embrace something one hundred percent, depending on what

1678
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 2: you're what you say, you're thought to be against it

1679
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

1680
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 3: That's the way it goes sometimes.

1681
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's been one of the most vocal detractors

1682
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: of all these rule changers. And you know it, he

1683
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 4: said it.

1684
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: I'll try to grab the audio where he's like, I'm

1685
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: four players getting paid.

1686
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 4: I'm for that, okay, and then he goes on, hang on,

1687
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 4: hang on. You know that if he said that he

1688
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 4: wasn't then he wouldn't be able to recruit anymore. So

1689
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 4: why would Lane Kiffen ever be honest about his true

1690
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: feelings about.

1691
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: This that I agree with?

1692
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 5: These guys are never honest at at first blush. They

1693
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 5: always hide something, They always have a motive. Here's another

1694
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 5: quote that I let you guys debate because I do

1695
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 5: think this adds an interesting caveat, and again this is

1696
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 5: directly from lane Kiffin's interview that we're dissecting. And you've

1697
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 5: got dynamics in the locker room. These players talk, they

1698
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 5: know what players get paid. You've got dynamics around the country. Oh,

1699
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 5: I've been here, I made these plays, and that guy

1700
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 5: just got here and he's gonna make more money than me. Again,

1701
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: that's not a good setup. I'll let either of you

1702
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 5: take this. The way that I view this is like

1703
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 5: you guys, I agree that that can be a little

1704
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 5: awkward sometimes.

1705
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:24,759
Speaker 1: Yes, they're dynamic.

1706
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Of course, there are numerous things as far as challenges

1707
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: that it creates. I don't understand why you guys are

1708
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 2: against a coach saying yeah, it leads to some challenge.

1709
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 5: Not against I'm not against it at all. I just

1710
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: think in the center of this firestorm, he likes the attention. Look,

1711
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 5: I think we're I mean, we're not even really arguing.

1712
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 5: We're just all stating our opinions.

1713
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 4: Sure you believe Brian that lane Kiffin is just outlining

1714
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 4: some of the challenges of the day. I'm simply stating

1715
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 4: I love that it's harder for him to do his

1716
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 4: job because for years this system, and Lane specifically being

1717
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 4: a head coach in this system, has taken advantage of

1718
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 4: free labor on the campuses that he coaches at, and

1719
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 4: he's made tens of millions of dollars over the course

1720
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 4: of his career. And just because his job's a teeny

1721
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 4: tiny bit tougher to keep together a roster, recruit and

1722
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 4: to make sure he retains the players that he recruits,

1723
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 4: the fact that he's complaining about it, I love it.

1724
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: I love it. I think I'm actually siding with rich

1725
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: on this one. I know this sounds crazy, but I

1726
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: think I'm on Riches coin.

1727
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 3: I was saying, please do not cut that up and

1728
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 3: make a sound.

1729
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: Because I will probably.

1730
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 5: But he's, like I've said about the absolute part, like Ken,

1731
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 5: just because Lane's coming out and saying he doesn't like

1732
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean he's not one hundred percent against it.

1733
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

1734
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 5: I don't think if you ask Lane to a man,

1735
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, these kids should not get paid a dime.

1736
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna say, yeah, I agree, they

1737
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 5: shouldn't get paid a dime. I do think there's a

1738
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 5: middle ground there. But college football is not supposed to

1739
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 5: be sport. Winning in sports, getting to the top of

1740
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 5: the mountain is not supposed to be easy. It's supposed

1741
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 5: to be hard. It's supposed to be a struggle. So

1742
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 5: for that being the case, now that it's harder, that

1743
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 5: doesn't bother me that it's harder. I think Lane just

1744
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 5: has to adjust. And maybe that's the approach you should

1745
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 5: have taken in the interview. But again, Lane doesn't care

1746
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 5: about how he viewed how he's viewed.

1747
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 2: But that not turns into you, guys, take it and

1748
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: run with it, as if he's saying something he's not saying.

1749
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: If you are cool with him having challenges, Okay, I

1750
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 2: get that, but you're reacting as if he's saying, don't

1751
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: pay the players, don't have a trend.

1752
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying that.

1753
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, you're miss I think you're misinterpreting what I'm

1754
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 4: saying or mishearing what Jared and I'm saying. I don't

1755
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 4: the point this is gonna sound. Really, I don't care,

1756
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 4: Like I honestly, I don't care if link Kiffin likes

1757
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 4: it or not. I mean, it really does. But I

1758
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 4: do know this, I personally like it. When I find

1759
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 4: out that college coaches don't like the new rules. When

1760
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 4: I find out that guys who have taken advantage of

1761
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 4: this system for their own game, you.

1762
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Know what I compare you to.

1763
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 5: It's like the defensive backs being upset that the PI

1764
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 5: rules are tough. Yeah, that's just the game. Yeah, you

1765
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 5: have to adapt.

1766
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,879
Speaker 2: What if what would you guys say to another situation

1767
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: because you're hung up on the backdrop of how it

1768
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: used to be in college football? Rich and I hear

1769
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 2: you on that, because you couldn't transfer schools without sitting

1770
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: out an entire year unless you went from like an

1771
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: FBS school to an pay for plays follow me, So

1772
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: imagine it's something else. Let's take the NBA and Lane

1773
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 2: This was one of his examples where there are no contracts.

1774
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 2: Lebron could just switch teams, he could enter the transfer portal,

1775
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 2: or anybody else could. And then you get an NBA

1776
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 2: coach that's complaining about that, Like, what would be your reaction?

1777
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Then?

1778
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 3: What if it's the NFL.

1779
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 2: There are no contracts, we have transfer portal like twice

1780
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: a year, and the most prominent Patrick Mahomes just switched teams.

1781
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 2: He entered the transfer portal, and Andy Reid says something

1782
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 2: like man, this makes things a lot more difficult. What's

1783
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: your reaction then.

1784
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 4: Well, listen, here's the crazy thing about me is I

1785
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 4: don't think anybody now, don't get me wrong, I'm not

1786
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 4: gonna say that that people can get taken advantage of

1787
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 4: in partnerships, but it's a lot harder. And the NBA,

1788
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 4: the NFL, Major League Baseball, the NHL even they're all

1789
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 4: technically partnerships because the players formed the union, and now

1790
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 4: that union has to negotiate with the NFL owners or

1791
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 4: the NBA owners or governors, or the NHL owners MLB

1792
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 4: owners to come up with what is fair between both sides.

1793
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 4: The difference is in college football. In college sports, there

1794
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: is no partnership and there's never been. Now, the law

1795
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 4: steps in the way, sometimes based on abuses that may

1796
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 4: have been argued, and then legal precedent is set or

1797
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: the rules may change by the governing body, the NCAA,

1798
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 4: but they're not meeting with executive directors or heads of

1799
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 4: a player's coalition or union to come up with these rules.

1800
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 4: So when we're discussing the difference between quote unquote professional

1801
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 4: sports and college athletics, it's apples and oranges because we're

1802
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 4: not talking about We're not talking about a partnership. So

1803
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 4: I have a hard time. It's a bridge too far

1804
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 4: from me to make that comparison. But I will say this,

1805
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 4: when you hear people souring on the new rules because

1806
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 4: it feels too player friendly, I have to factor in

1807
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 4: the backdrop of the literal hundred plus years of college

1808
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 4: football that we've witnessed where players were getting taken advantage of,

1809
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 4: and then the decades recently where coaches became millionaires off

1810
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 4: the work of players while players were getting their college

1811
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 4: education paid for.

1812
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta say this real fast.

1813
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: We got to run. I think history is clouding your

1814
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: judgment on this one. Oh no, that's what I think.

1815
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 2: It makes me very happy to hear Wayne kiffn I

1816
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: know that always. But that's the thing is, judge this

1817
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 2: look different if we had like again NBA, NFL like

1818
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,839
Speaker 2: it's just the same thing. It's as a transfer portal

1819
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 2: twice a year.

1820
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 4: You got all this movement.

1821
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: If you've got all this stuff and you hear a

1822
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 2: coach saying, man, it makes life a lot more difficult,

1823
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 2: I think you'd be saying, yeah, I get it. But

1824
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: because of the backdrop of players not being able to

1825
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 2: transfer in college football. Your position now is good crime

1826
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 2: mea river Lane Kiffin. I think the history is clouding

1827
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 2: your judgment on this one.

1828
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 8: I do.

1829
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 4: I don't at all. In fact, I think you're actually right.

1830
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 4: I didn't hear your point before. I think you're actually

1831
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: right because it is a partnership between those leagues and

1832
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 4: those players. I probably would have an easier time hearing

1833
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 4: a coach's complaint because I would say, hey, if you

1834
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 4: don't like it, talk to your owner and then have

1835
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 4: him go to the bargaining table with the players and

1836
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 4: give up something on your side so that you get

1837
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 4: whatever it is you're looking for. Whereas in this debate Brian,

1838
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 4: with college athletes, they don't have a union, they don't

1839
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 4: have somebody they can go to to complain. All they

1840
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 4: have is a potential future. Maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't.

1841
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 4: Labor strike. And that's exactly the reason why these rules changed.

1842
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 4: It's because all of a sudden, there were player coalitions

1843
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 4: coming together talking about the abuses at the college athletics level,

1844
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: and in order to avoid that, they started loosening the

1845
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 4: belt on some of the name, image and likeness and

1846
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 4: some of the transfer portal rules. This way, the players

1847
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 4: didn't unionize. They were throwing breadcrumbs to the geese. The

1848
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 4: geese got fat, and now the coaches are complaining. It

1849
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 4: seems a little silly to me. Okay, we gotta run.

1850
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 4: We're gonna be on opposite sides on this one. That's okay.

1851
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 4: We'll unify at some other stage. He is.

1852
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 2: Is rich Orenberger, Ben Stayed All America shared Smith Union

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Speaker 2: Here AFAA Mills Lane with us There FSR vetting analyst.

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01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm Brian no coming up next, the most underrated player

1855
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: in the league. Interesting opinion around the corner. It is

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01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio Lane.

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Speaker 2: buying should be So Kirk Cousins, Vikings quarterback, he has

1873
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: a thought on the most underrated quarterback in the NFL.

1874
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 2: He says Jimmy G.

1875
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 3: He's going with Jimmy.

1876
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 2: Garoppolo as the most underrated guy. Now here's the thing.

1877
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 2: You gotta start with this. You gotta start with the

1878
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 2: mainstream opinion of any player. What's the mainstream opinion, and

1879
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: then go from there. Is it too low? Right, Like

1880
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 2: it's a Jimmy G staks and it should be higher? Okay,

1881
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 2: if it's glowing and it's right. So start off with

1882
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 2: the mainstream opinion. What's the mainstream opinion of Jimmy G.

1883
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty low. What's the mainstream opinion of Kirk Cousins.

1884
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 2: It's lower, it's worse, and the production play higher Kirk

1885
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Cousins is actually by far the most underrated quarterback in

1886
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:14,879
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1887
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,600
Speaker 4: But it's so difficult to say me, you know what

1888
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 4: I say, like, yeah, if if somebody is asking you

1889
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,600
Speaker 4: a question like who's the best or or who's the

1890
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 4: most underrated, and you answer yourself, all of a sudden,

1891
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 4: people start going, boy, this guy, by holy cow, you know, Like, so,

1892
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 4: I think that he's in the debate for sure. I

1893
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 4: think he makes an strong argument and or I shouldn't

1894
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 4: even say, I don't know how he argued it. But

1895
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 4: pointing out that Jimmy Garoppolo is underrated I think is

1896
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 4: fair because Jimmy Garoppolo, Look, he gets painted with a

1897
01:41:55,280 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 4: a very different picture that I think is is actually

1898
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,560
Speaker 4: the case. Now, if anybody wants to talk about his availability,

1899
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 4: or his fragility or his injury proneus by all means,

1900
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's no question about it. Throughout

1901
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 4: the course of his career, he's been hurt a lot,

1902
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 4: but in terms of winning and essentially he's been he's

1903
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 4: been blessed with some of the teams he's played for

1904
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 4: New England during a big time winning window and the

1905
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers. You know, he was handed

1906
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 4: the keys to a Ferrari there. I mean, there's no

1907
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 4: doubt he's been in good circumstances with good coaches. But

1908
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 4: he's a winner, and winning accounts for a lot in

1909
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 4: this league. You know, he's made it to a super Bowl,

1910
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 4: He's made it to now two NFC Championship games. Like

1911
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo's got a resume to him. Yeah, he's forty

1912
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 4: and seventeen in his career, Guys, I mean, and I

1913
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 4: know that career stretches a long list of seasons. Right,

1914
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 4: forty and seventeen, that's fifty seven games that should be

1915
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 4: four seasons worth of data.

1916
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: It's it's like eight. But you can't argue with that record.

1917
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 5: And Kirk makes a very like I love, And that

1918
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 5: was the one thing about quarterback that I really enjoyed.

1919
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 5: I really changed the way that I feel about Kirk

1920
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 5: Cousins after watching that show.

1921
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:29,879
Speaker 1: He gets a really.

1922
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 5: Bad rap and I think he is one of the

1923
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 5: toughest workers and one of the most underrated guys in

1924
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 5: this league because of how unselfish he is and the

1925
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 5: position that he plays is a very selfish position, and

1926
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 5: I think for him to be as good of a

1927
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 5: dude as he is, I know it doesn't matter in

1928
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 5: terms of wins and losses, but as good of a

1929
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 5: dude as he is to be a very underrated player

1930
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Now he gets paid a lot, and

1931
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 5: I know that makes it hard to be underrated, But

1932
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 5: for him to pass off that Moniker to Jimmy and

1933
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 5: Jimmy's underrated in his own way. I think it's really

1934
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 5: hard to judge players that don't play enough. It's that

1935
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 5: That's why when I'm looking at stats, especially in baseball,

1936
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 5: this matters a lot. You have to put a minimum

1937
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 5: qualifier on any statistical filter that I use, because some

1938
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 5: guys they're great, but they play for five games.

1939
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: I want to see what the full sample tells me.

1940
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 5: I think that is still undecided on Jimmy Garoppolo, like

1941
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 5: I would put an incomplete next to his grade, because

1942
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 5: we just we haven't seen the full picture yet. Kirk

1943
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 5: we have, and man, I really really underrated. Guy makes

1944
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 5: really tough throws. Not the most athletic quarterback in the league.

1945
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 5: Relies on his footwork and his timing and his ability

1946
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 5: to be on par on the same page as receivers.

1947
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 5: So I would agree. I would say Kirk is at

1948
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 5: the top of that list because the narrative on Kirk Cousins.

1949
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it changed just after what we just saw, but man,

1950
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: it has never been that. It has never been lower.

1951
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 2: This is not the easiest thing to hear because there's

1952
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 2: some wind. And but this is Cameron Jordan of the Saints.

1953
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: This was during the off season, and they're doing this

1954
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 2: sort of like pass rushing summit, and so he just

1955
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 2: all of a sudden just talk trash about Kirk Cousins.

1956
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 2: So the parson of what Cameron Jordan had to say,

1957
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 2: a fast.

1958
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: Right decision, you hear winning a slow right decision.

1959
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 4: Get your ass on the beach, because there's somebody out

1960
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 4: here just gonna be moving at a different speed.

1961
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 1: Slow right decisions. We love him.

1962
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 4: Call him Kirk Cousins. Where did that come.

1963
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: He's talking about just playing fast. You gotta play fast,

1964
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Just make a fast decision, whether it's doesn't play fast. Yeah,

1965
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: and he's like, Kirk Cousins. Look, man, Kirk puts up numbers.

1966
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says. Kirk Cousins has put

1967
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 2: up some numbers in this league. And his reputation is

1968
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 2: in the toilet, and I don't think those two things

1969
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 2: match up. I don't think they sync up. I'm not

1970
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 2: telling you he's top. I'm not telling you he's the best.

1971
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 2: But he's way better than his reputation is. He's the

1972
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 2: anti Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's reputation is way better than

1973
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 2: it should be. He's had one sensational season one. He

1974
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 2: can't do anything in the postseason. He can't stay healthy.

1975
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, his reputation is into toilet and that dude

1976
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 2: is available and puts up numbers every single year.

1977
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,440
Speaker 4: Well, yes, but also can't get anything done in the postseason.

1978
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 3: I have it has no defense.

1979
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean listen, yeah, I don't blame

1980
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 5: that postseason loss on him at all.

1981
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 4: And well no, and Lamar Jackson, by the way, had

1982
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 4: a great defense, so and KI still couldn't win and

1983
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 4: still couldn't win. So I mean, look that the deal

1984
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 4: with you put.

1985
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins on that Ravens defense that year they're winning

1986
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 5: a postseason game, and.

1987
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 4: Let's let's put this, let's put all this together. What

1988
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 4: he's saying in like Football Ease is basically Kirk Cousins

1989
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 4: is really good when his first option is open, when

1990
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 4: his second option is open, but when he has to

1991
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 4: read a full defense and he has to get to

1992
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 4: his third in his or thread. That's what he's saying

1993
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 4: is when you're taking your time at quarterback, it gives

1994
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 4: a pass rusher time to get to you. And so

1995
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 4: Tom Brady the reason why he's elite. Drew Brees, especially

1996
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 4: in terms of getting the ball out. The reason why

1997
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 4: he's elite. These are guys who can see the whole

1998
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 4: picture and get the ball to you know, they know

1999
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 4: they don't need don't even look at the first option.

2000
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 4: It's taken away by the shell of the defense. So

2001
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 4: we're going to the second option. The third option balls

2002
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 4: out in point three seconds, the pass rush never can

2003
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 4: get home. That's what Cam Jordan is saying is there's

2004
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 4: certain quarterbacks who sit back there and they pat the

2005
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 4: football and they go through their reads and they finally

2006
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 4: find who they want to throw the football to, oop

2007
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 4: stripsack like. That's what he's saying about Kirk Cousins, and

2008
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 4: that's why he took that shot. Lamar Jackson the reason

2009
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 4: why he gets more credit with pass rushers especially is

2010
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 4: because he's evasive. Now Kirk, he by the way, not

2011
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 4: doing a great job reading defenses either. But when Lamar

2012
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 4: Jacks looking at a defense and his first option isn't open,

2013
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 4: his second option isn't open, that little timer goes off

2014
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 4: in his head and he runs with the football and

2015
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 4: nobody can touch him. So that's the big difference between

2016
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 4: a Kirk Cousins in terms of from from just that

2017
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,560
Speaker 4: standpoint of a pass rusher and the and and you know,

2018
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 4: a guy like Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson in certain camps

2019
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 4: is gonna get a lot more respect. And there's no

2020
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 4: question in my mind, like Cam Jordan would be one

2021
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 4: of those guys who'd be like, oh no, no, no.

2022
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 4: If you're going to compare Kirk and Lamar, Lamar's better

2023
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 4: every single day.

2024
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: So here's where I put.

2025
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 2: It's that about who's better, It's about whose reputation is

2026
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 2: what and does it match the reality death I'm not telling.

2027
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 4: You, oh no, I'm saying through the eyes of a

2028
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 4: pass rusher, you know, I mean and so and I

2029
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 4: mean in terms of reputation, Yeah, you're right. I mean

2030
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 4: there are certain guys who are the flavor of the month,

2031
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 4: certain guys who just get a little bit more of

2032
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 4: a pass than other guys, And I think in Kirk

2033
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 4: cut life, I don't think he's gotten enough credit for

2034
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 4: what he's done as a football player. But at the

2035
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 4: same token, when you talk about Jimmy Garoppolo, the one

2036
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 4: thing you can say about Jimmy is he's a winner.

2037
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: We have not always been able to say that about

2038
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins, especially in primetime games.

2039
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 2: The sporting cast is Night and Day better they're winning

2040
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 2: games with Brock Perdy, you know what I mean, Like, Oh,

2041
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo impresses me, not at all.

2042
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 5: I'm Cameron Jordan's take care. I just looked up time

2043
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 5: to throw rates last year. Kirk Cousins in the top ten,

2044
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 5: Like he's on the same page as the Trevor Lawrence

2045
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 5: is Joe Burrows. Now Tom Brady's in a class of

2046
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 5: his own. Tom Brady's time to throw rate is insane.

2047
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 5: It's two point three seconds. That's absurd. Everyone else is

2048
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 5: kind of in the two and a half second range,

2049
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 5: that's in the top ten.

2050
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is two point six seconds.

2051
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 5: Like, I just I don't see the data that backs

2052
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:59,600
Speaker 5: up Cameron Jordan's point that Kirk Cousins is slow like

2053
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 5: maybe foot speeds.

2054
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 4: Like shure, We're we're talking about averages though, you know

2055
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 4: what I mean?

2056
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's all we can really go.

2057
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 4: No, no, but you but you turn on the tape

2058
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:13,600
Speaker 4: and you know, look, I mean he's working with obviously

2059
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators who are going to script plays that he's

2060
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 4: comfortable with and things like that. But all it takes

2061
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 4: one per half, you know, one really bad decision, one

2062
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 4: really bad slow read, or one one moment where you're

2063
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 4: spending way too much time in the pocket where you

2064
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 4: know you could obviously end up sacrificing a play that's

2065
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 4: going to change a game. Well, it happens so rarely

2066
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 4: with Tom Brady. It happens a lot more often with

2067
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 4: guys like Kirk Cousins. Frankly, guys like Jimmy Garoppolo too.

2068
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: You know who Garoppolo is time to throw rate? His

2069
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: is really really high. He is one of the ones

2070
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: that is on the list.

2071
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2072
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 2: You know who else makes really quick decisions? That would

2073
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 2: be our guy, Isaac Lowankroll. You know, do I start

2074
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 2: with MESSI do I do I start with an MLB

2075
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 2: score decisions mate?

2076
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 3: At rapid fire pace with.

2077
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 1: The latest.

2078
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 8: Messy Women's World Cup sack the open, strip.

2079
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 1: The ball.

2080
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, they've already been and they've already been flagged fifteen

2081
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,560
Speaker 8: yards for excessive celebration. While I made a contribution to

2082
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 8: Rich Wrenberger's tears stained biscuits, They're now stayed with my tears.

2083
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 8: We're going to start with Team USA at the Women's

2084
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 8: World Cup because on Saturday they won their opening match

2085
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 8: over Vietnam three to nothing. Sophia Smith scored a pair

2086
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 8: of goals. Team captain Lindsay Haran scored the other one.

2087
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 8: On Friday night, Leonel Messi made his Major League Soccer

2088
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 8: debut for Inter Miami in front of a star studded crowd.

2089
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 8: They were tied at one inter Miamimmy and cruz Azul

2090
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 8: of Mexico in a League's Cup match in second half

2091
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 8: stoppage time, with Messi poised over the ball for a

2092
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 8: free kick. On Apple TV here it is Messi four

2093
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 8: two to one Inter Miami victory. Golf Round three in

2094
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 8: full swing at the Open at Royal Liverpool, American Brian

2095
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 8: Harmon still has the lead. However, he has lost three

2096
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 8: shots off of his lead today. He is at eight

2097
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 8: under par overall, he is two over through four holes

2098
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,759
Speaker 8: of the third round, having bogeied the second and third holes.

2099
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 8: Tommy Fleetwood is two shots back, tied for second place

2100
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 8: at six under par overall. Today, he is one under

2101
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 8: through four, but John Rahm has already completed a magnificent

2102
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 8: round three. He shot an eight eight under par sixty three,

2103
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 8: his best round ever at a Major, his lowest score

2104
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,839
Speaker 8: ever as a major, so he is now two shots

2105
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 8: off the lead. Is today John Rahm moved a whopping

2106
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 8: thirty seven spots up the leader board from thirty ninth

2107
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 8: place to a tie for second place.

2108
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: Fellas all yours man. I immediately think we always talk

2109
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 2: about in game betting, like in tournament betting for golf

2110
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 2: live betting.

2111
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Speaker 1: As a leite, Brian, Yeah, done it strong recommend.

2112
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Woo rom at thirty ninth if you got in at

2113
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 2: the right time and probably could.

2114
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 5: Have got fifty to fifty to one this morning on him,

2115
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 5: somewhere in that range what I would guess. So right

2116
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 5: now he's nine to one. Actually I kick that back,

2117
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 5: he's seven to one now because Brian Harmon is just

2118
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 5: he is. He looks like me out there just hacking away.

2119
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 5: Tommy Fleetwood looks good too. I think it's gonna come

2120
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 5: down to Rom Fleetwood. I put Cameron Young and Victor

2121
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Speaker 5: Hoblin and Rory as the other games. I think it's

2122
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 5: gonna be one of those five guys, Rory Goblin, Camyong,

2123
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 5: Fleetwood or Rom.

2124
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Speaker 1: One of those five guys gonna win it.

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Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. Of course, Messy with the goal compliments

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Speaker 2: of Apple TV scores the game winner in his MLS debut.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought the Progressive play of the day might

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Speaker 2: be Lane Kiffin control you Rich.

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Speaker 9: First off, I've always said I think it's phenomenal that

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Speaker 9: players get a chance to get paid.

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Speaker 2: I think it's phenomenal players get paid the knockout.

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Speaker 1: Calling the fight, well, hang on the fight.

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Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on. Can we bring back Rob Parker's

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Speaker 4: promo where he was responding to Lane Kiffen calling this

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Speaker 4: a disaster that was really good, that was legalizing pating,

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Speaker 4: because I'm pretty sure you also said that.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing about Lane.

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Speaker 5: He is all over the map with these takes, and

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Speaker 5: I think part of it is just how he's feeling

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Speaker 5: that day. What just happened to him yesterday? Did he

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Speaker 5: just get screwed over by some kid that that switched sides?

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Speaker 5: And I just think he really likes the Yeah, how

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Speaker 5: about this?

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Speaker 4: Let history reflect that Brian knows siding with Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good pal, Yeah, it brings up challenges.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, he's right, I'll be right with Lane. And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing is what once was cheating has now been legalized.

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Speaker 4: The company actually correct the company.

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Speaker 2: All right, we gotta think the crew over here. Props

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Speaker 2: to the crew. We've got Bo Benz and our trusted

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Speaker 2: producer Iowa Sam doing a great job. Technical producer I

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Speaker 2: Low on the updates, mister Isaac Low and Cron coming

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Speaker 2: up top of the hour, up on game LaVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: DJ Hushman's out of Plexico, Buris. You're in great, great

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Speaker 2: hands with them. How about this before our bets The

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Speaker 2: trendiest NFL bet right now on bet MGM, almost forty

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Speaker 2: percent of the money is on this team to win

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Speaker 2: the most games in the upcoming season. Who do you

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Speaker 2: think it is? It's the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Unsurprised me at all.

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Speaker 3: You got the Jags winning the most kids. Here's the

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Speaker 3: thing I would.

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Speaker 1: Make the bet. It just unsurprised me that that's the

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Speaker 1: most popular.

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Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: But what cracks me up?

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Speaker 3: Jared, You'll love this.

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Speaker 2: There are some people that like the professionals, the sharps,

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Speaker 2: they'll say, oh no, no, no, stay away from Parlays,

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Speaker 2: stay away, stay far away. And then with futures betting,

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, take Jacksonville. You're getting great, great value

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Speaker 2: on that. You can get them at sixteen to one.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't care if they're seventy two to one.

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Speaker 2: If they don't end up with the most wins, you

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Speaker 2: lose your freaking bet. Like they're not gonna win the

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Speaker 2: most games. Sorry, I get that some people are behind them.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna go from nine to eight to fourteen

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Speaker 2: or thirteen wins whatever it takes to be the.

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Speaker 1: Jacks six no shaking in his boots.

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Speaker 2: On their way to the seventy two Dolphins record. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's far team in year in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 2: Far too much Jaggs love right now, way too much. Wait,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, big step forward last season, But they're in

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Speaker 2: nine to eighteen duking it out with Joshua Dobbs and

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Speaker 2: the Titans to get into the playoffs. At the end

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Speaker 2: there like, I don't see the most wins at all

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Speaker 2: from Jacksonville. But it's not about that.

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Speaker 3: It's about us. So Jared, what are you thinking today?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: What are your bets?

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Speaker 5: Well, I've been cursed with the nurfy bug the last

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Speaker 5: few weeks, and I'm gonna switch sides today because I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna be like Lane Kiffin and just be on both

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Speaker 5: sides of the argument. We're gonna go, yes, run first inning,

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Speaker 5: Dodgers Rangers. Good game there, good good game last night,

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Speaker 5: good series there in Texas. Two first place teams. Speaking

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Speaker 5: of two first place teams, Braves, Brewers got a rookie

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Speaker 5: Alan Women's making his first ever appearance in the majors

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Speaker 5: today on the road against the Brewers, who lost last night,

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Speaker 5: and Atlanta's got a red hot offense, two facering Adrian Howser.

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Speaker 5: So yes, rot any Dodgers Rangers, Braves Brewers, good luck.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna take the Detroit Tigers, San Diego

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Speaker 4: Padres under on total runs again today, the old relible.

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Speaker 4: Now listen, this was like Lane Kiffin described college football. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm off the hook.

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Speaker 3: I'm off the hook to be over.

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Speaker 2: In both games last Saturday, it was like cheating.

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Speaker 4: It was like, now, I will say this though, it's

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Speaker 4: no longer like cheating. I'm batting six hundred because I've

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Speaker 4: whipped twice. This is a last ditch effort. I'm taking

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Speaker 4: the under ten total runs this afternoon in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a little reckless. Possibly, I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 2: Yankees on the run line. They're not gonna let them

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Speaker 2: out of the Bronx if they don't beat the Royals again.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Cole on the mound, I've got the Yanks winning

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Speaker 2: by at least two runs today. Let's know you make

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Speaker 2: plenty of bank