1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Fellow, chip, I you're in a different environment today, I am. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: I gotta shoot, Yeah, I'm shoot. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: So thankfully there's a house here that my friend owns 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: and it has Wi Fi. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So I was telling you I 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: had Jill Brown. She's an evolutionary astrologer on the podcast, 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: which I actually asked her what that means, and I 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: do think that the kind of way that she reads 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: an astrological chart does really focus on past lives and 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: also like chiron, which I'm just explain to you in 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: a second, don't worry. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Which is a chiron? I know what that is, but 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: in a different world, what is it? It's like when 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: you know, when you watched MTV and it said the 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: name of the artist and the song title the album 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: yeah called. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Are you serious? I had no idea. Yeah, I had 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: no idea to had another meaning. Well, anyway, some of 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the listeners might be thinking the same. But it is 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: part of an astrology chart. It's about your core winning 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: and I'll get to that in just a second. But 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: when I asked her what evolutionary astrology was, she was 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: explaining basically what I believe is the way that I 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: always am trying to work with astrology in general, it's like, 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: why is my soul here? I believe we all came 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: into this specific lifetime with a path, Like we chose 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: the situations that we go through. We chose the life 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: that we're living to face certain things to then help 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: our soul evolve in certain ways. So maybe you're lacking 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: in a certain area, or in the last lifetime you 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: were like this super driven, hardcore worker person. In this 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: lifetime you're completely different because you're trying to learn more 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: about like emotions or relationships, you know, work life balance. 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: So when you go get your chart read, and this 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: is what I'm always trying to tell people about it, 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: it's all there, like things start to click. It's kind 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: of wild the way that it truly is just this map. 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: It's like looking back even during certain transits, you can 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: look back at what was happening at your life in 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: that certain moment, and it's pretty shocking when you start 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: to kind of piece it together. And so that was 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot of what Jill was explaining to me, and 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of, I think, really the focus of the 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of astrology work that she does with her clients. 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: And so we specifically started talking about your chiron because 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: although I know what it is in your chart, it 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: is the placement that describes your core wound. So whatever 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: house it's in, whatever sign it's in, it's going to 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: be specific to you. Like she using my chart as 50 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: an example mine, I'm a Taurus. I have a chiron 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: and Taurus. There's a lot of other things of that placement, 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Like it's in my first house, which is your house 53 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: of self. So it's all about me really learning in 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: this lifetime how to embrace my true self, like my 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: authentic self. And when we started talking about it, I'm 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: looking back at all these circumstances, like because within that 57 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: authenticity it would be a part of like wanting to 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: be seen for my true self, you know. And there's 59 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: so many situations in my life that I can look 60 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: back on that we're the big struggles of my life 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: or the big things that I even talk about on 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: this podcast that I'm like, oh, that was so hard 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: for me, or it's still so hard for me, or 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: like the things I can't let go of that had 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: such an impact on me or were so painful, and 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: all of those things are really forcing me to like 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: lean into who are you? Why are you here? What 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: is your soul's purpose? And the reason those are so 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: important to me is because I'm trying to overcome this 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: core wound. Does that make sense? Did I explain? 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: It? Eventually just evolve into your soul's next. 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Being totally, And so that would be my life's work, right, 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: is to really try to work through this core wounding. 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: And probably these are the things that will come up 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: throughout our lifetime and they'll just get easier to deal with, 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: or it'll be another like, oh, there's another situation that's 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: forcing me to look at this, you know, and everyone's 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: is going to be different, like it's going to be 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: in a different house, it's going to have a different theme. 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: And so that's why it's really interesting to learn about 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: these placements in your chart. It can help you kind 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: of understand why you've gone through certain obstacles, understand what 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: it's here to teach you, and to really evolve and grow. 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: So anyway, everyone knows how important that is is to me. 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean I talk about it all the time. I'm 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: sure it's like a broken record, but I was saying 87 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: this to you and you said this statement because we 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: were trying. We always try to think about what we 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about on Fridays that relates to Wednesdays, 90 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: but in a kind of twist or spin kind of way. 91 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: And you said the perfect thing because you said, whoa, 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: it's like that statement what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? 93 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: And I immediately like rolled myself, like, oh, I hate 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: that statement. 95 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: I just love the Kelly Clarkson. 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Song what doesn't kill You makes you strong? Yeah, I 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: forgot about that. I mean, girl can whale. But yeah, no, 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: I find that statement to be flawed in many ways, 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: which we'll get into. But I said, okay, well, an 100 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: interesting topic might be statements that we say like that 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: that I find to be really short sighted, because the 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: work I was talking about on Wednesday is anything but 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: short sighted. Right, It's going really into the depths of 104 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: your psyche. You're subconscious why I'm doing the things I'm doing, 105 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Why I faced certain obstacles? What is this here to 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: teach me? And there's all these sayings that we live 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: and die by in our society that I find to be, 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: like I said, very short sighted. Are they stop short 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: of helping you in a way that's like beneficial to growth? 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: It's more so these things, these shiny little like ways 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: we paint hardships in our lives and then we kind 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: of just brush them to the side, and so they 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: don't do anything. They're just here and it's like this suffering. 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: I feel like we make ourselves go through. So we're 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: going to go through a couple of these statements, Chip 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: and I actually really disagree on a lot of them, 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: if they're beneficial or not. I'm very curious if you 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: guys relate or resonate, like with which side. But the 119 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: first one being what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: And so I will say, like, I think that's bullshit, 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: because first of all, I'm like, what doesn't kill you 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: usually gives you trauma that you have to work through. 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Like I think it can make you stronger if you 124 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: work with it. But what I see happening in our 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: society is a lot of people are like, oh, what 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I went through something hard. 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to bury my head in the sand and 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: be that strong person. I'm not going to feel emotions. 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to power through and I'm going to show 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: the world how strong I am because that didn't take 131 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: me out or whatever like that is how I see 132 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: it happening. I don't know if that's true or not 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: or just through my lens, but I don't feel like 134 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: that's helpful to people. I don't think that we have 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: to like always be pushed to operate from this super 136 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: air quotes right now strong place to actually be these 137 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: really strong people, you know, Like I believe that sometimes 138 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the herder you let yourself break because of hard circumstances, 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: that's what makes you stronger. So I guess ultimately it's saying, yeah, 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. But I'm like, 141 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: but there's more of that. 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I definitely think it is a surface level statement, 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: but I think that there's some I think it's an 144 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: important statement because or phrase or whatever you want to 145 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: call it, because I do think it it's a way 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: to like inspire bravery in people too. You know, if 147 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: you were trying to get your kid to go on 148 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: a roller coaster for the first time, you'll be like, 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: you're not gonna die, you know, like what doesn't kill 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: you is gonna make you stronger. You're gonna get over 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: your fear. So I do think that there are purposes 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: for it, But I do think if you know, you 153 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: had a friend that experienced a major trauma and you 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: looked at them and said, you know, dust yourself off 155 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: and try again. There's another one right there. You know, 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: Like what doesn't kill you makes you stronger is like 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: it could in many circumstances, could be incredibly toxic possible activity. 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dismissive. 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it dismisses any sort of real pain that 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: you might be in. But you know, I do think that, 161 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: like there is another analogy. It's just like any sort 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 2: of failure. If you if you are on a baseball 163 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: team and you lose, like it's not the end of 164 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: the world, Like get back up, practice harder, and you're 165 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: going to come back a better team if you like 166 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: focus on what your failures were. I did. I was 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: trying to do a little research on this because trying 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: to find these other topics. And one of the analogies 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: was like actually about muscles, Like when you work out, 170 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: you're tearing your muscles, but not to the point of 171 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: breaking them. You're tearing them so that they can come 172 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: back and rebuild and they're stronger. So some of that 173 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: like actually lies in the like physicality of muscle building. Yeah, 174 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't kill you. 175 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: That's actually a good analogy. Yeah, okay, look, I think 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: here's what I will say. I see your point. I 177 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: actually I think and I think your point is the 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: intention of that statement. And all I'm saying is maybe 179 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: our human brain interpretation sometimes falls a little short of 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: what this saying is supposed to actually bring to people, 181 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Like I think what you're saying is the point of it. 182 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: And it's more so of like okay, like get back up, 183 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: do it again, try something again, be brave like you 184 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: were saying about, you know, dust yourself off and try again. 185 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: If you didn't make the base or you got cut 186 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: from the baseball team or whatever, like, doesn't mean you 187 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: need to be done with baseball. Maybe it could be 188 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: the thing that forces you to go practice more or 189 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: like whatever. So it is all in how you use 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: it too, or maybe it. 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: Makes you stop trying and you become a world famous 192 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: scientist because baseball wasn't in your. 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but again that would make you I think the 194 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: point for me being okay, if they say, if that 195 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: statement is said, having the moment of reflection to then 196 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: take your next step or whatever. Not just dismissing it 197 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: of like, right, Okay, I know the saying is what 198 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: doesn't kill you makes you st longer. So I'm not 199 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: going to let myself crumble on this, and I'm going 200 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: to sidestep emotions and not face anything, not think about 201 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: how much that hurt or give it the space to 202 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: like help me evolve or grow. I'm just going to 203 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: bury my head and keep going through the motions. 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: You know, everybody, I'm thinking back to some of the 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: stories of your life that you've shared here and your 206 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: engagement that got called off because your fiance was cheating 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, that is not an instance where I 208 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: would look at you and be like, whatever doesn't kill 209 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: you makes you stronger, Kelly, You're gonna go find a 210 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: good man. Like, Yeah, that is a moment where you 211 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: need the time to process the emotions that you're feeling 212 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: because they're not the emotions that you set out for. 213 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: Whereas if you are on a baseball team and you 214 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: go into a game, like you know you're either gonna 215 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: win or you're gonna lose, so like you can kind 216 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: of be prepared for that, Like when you're marching down 217 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: a path of like my weddings in a month or 218 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: whatever it was on a certain Yeah, you're like the 219 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: train is on the tracks and suddenly you're off the tracks, 220 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: and that's like you had surprise emotions. 221 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, but do you want to know what's 222 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: fucked up? People did say that to me about it. 223 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: I believe the way Effiici and thecy Or they would 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: tell me how brave I was from actually to walk 225 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: away because most people would have just gone through with 226 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: it anyway. And I'm like, what kind of world are 227 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: we living in that you would find something like that 228 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: out that your whole relationship basically was a sham to 229 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: some degree, you know, and then you still go through 230 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: with going through the motions. I think that's exactly what 231 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I think sometimes these are misused as 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: these ways to like go about what's accepted by society 233 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: as like looking like a successful human versus actually going 234 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: through the process of what they're supposed to be here for. 235 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: Talk about your chiron, and you know, it's like most 236 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: people that would have stayed in that situation would have 237 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: done it because they would have been too embarrassed to 238 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: cancel their wedding and upset their parents and send the 239 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: like I was like I have to write to invite 240 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: whatever that is. Yeah, like that's why. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: People, I thank you for that reflection that actually makes 242 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: me feel good about Yeah, there you go. That was 243 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: that was me working through that wounding. And the truth 244 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: was is what I I can say now obviously, and 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: I say this all the time on the podcast too, 246 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: like that was one of the most beneficial things that 247 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: has happened to me in my life now, like I 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: could say that now. It was also one of the 249 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: most painful. But it did start me on this journey 250 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: of wanting to understand why I was, you know, even 251 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: picking the relationships that I was picking. And it wasn't 252 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: this overnight fix of like, oh I did that, and 253 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden I got back on the 254 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: horse of dating and I did it right. Like whatever 255 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: that wasn't right. It didn't make me stronger for a 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: long time, but actually made me really fucked up in relationships. 257 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: And it can still come up, like I can still 258 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: have moments where I know I'm operating from that wounding 259 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: even But the point being is it put me on 260 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: this path of like I want to understand myself better. 261 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I want to understand my childhood more. I want to 262 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: understand everything about this life, like relationships and whatever, and 263 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: so it was a gift now and that's the whole 264 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: point of like working with your chiron is to see 265 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: all these things. So it did make me stronger ultimately, 266 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: but it took a lot of It took a lot 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: of work, Like it wasn't overnight. And I know you 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: have stories like that too. Another one we thought about 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: was time heals all wounds. Another one we thought about 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: was time heals all wounds. And that kind of goes 271 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: hand in hand with what we were just describing, because 272 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the most bullshit thing. Do I think 273 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: things get easier over time? Yes, but like that's not 274 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: what heals wounds to me, that's like, yeah. 275 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: Working at them, he'll the wounds. The flaw with that 276 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,359 Speaker 2: one is that it's like it encourages passivity. 277 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you can just do whatever and you're gonna 278 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: get better anyway, and you might get a little bit 279 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: of like the feelings might alleviate and it's not so 280 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: like soul crushing. But the time isn't what it's like 281 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: totally fixing it. 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, time is one of the ingredients I can say, 283 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, like when I think about like loved ones 284 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: or pets that I love that have passed away. It 285 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: does get better with time, you know, just because and 286 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: that's not solely because of time. It's because you get 287 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: another dog or you found love somewhere else in your life. 288 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: It's never going to fill the hole that that that 289 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: person or that animal left, but it certainly does make 290 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: it better. Maybe like the killer flaw and that one 291 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: is healed. 292 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree it helps. Like you said, it's an ingredient, 293 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: like it helps, it lessens thing you again, like the 294 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: dog example is actually a really good one because you 295 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: have to rebuild your life, so you're building new memories, 296 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: and that I think gets easier when, like you start 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to relate other good moments with like being alone in 298 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: your house, Like then all of a sudden, you're finding 299 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: another thing to do in your house or you get 300 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: a new dog, like you said, and so there's another 301 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: positive vibe coming in. But it's not just the time. 302 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: There's something else, like there's other. 303 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Things, other ingredients. 304 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it just stop short. 305 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: I think like as an actor in college, if I 306 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: ever needed to cry, I could go back to how 307 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: I felt when my first dog died. Really, and that's 308 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: what I could use to make myself cry. And I 309 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: think it's probably like that was a first too, so 310 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: the wound was a lot deeper. But like, if that 311 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: tells me anything, it means that it is not healed, 312 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I can still think about 313 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: that dog and joyous ways and happy ways, but I 314 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: can also find that place that made me so sad 315 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: that I can cry it. I could cry it. 316 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Death is one that I don't think ever gets healed, 317 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: but it just gets lessened, right, Like do you know 318 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if you think about the grief 319 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: of that, like that's what everyone says about losing a parent, 320 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: like it never not gets hard, but you just learn 321 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: to live with did or like time makes it a 322 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: little bit easier to digest and things like that. 323 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: So the opposite would be doing the work, getting help, 324 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: having therapy, communicating with people that you love, talking through it, like, yeah, 325 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: that is what heals wounds. Yeah, and medicine if it's 326 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: a physical wound, Yeah that stitches. Yes, Time don't heal cuts. 327 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: No, I think you said it perfectly. Time is an ingredient. Yeah, 328 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: I love that. I think that's that's a great statement. Okay, 329 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: what about this one. If you love what you do, 330 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you'll never work a day in your life. 331 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean I am guilty of saying that, so I 332 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: kind of agree with it. That said, it really cheapens 333 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: it because I love what I do. But it is 334 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: it's not like money coming out of a vending machine, 335 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: you know. I like, there is stress. There are days 336 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: where I'm like, fuck this, I want to like sell 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: my house and move to an island where no one 338 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: has my phone number. Right. I mean, maybe it's just 339 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: we haven't found the right like thing to love to 340 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: work in, because I do think there are like you know, 341 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: if you're an author and you love to write, like, 342 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't feel like work. I do, but what 343 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: we do, I mean, here's the thing. When your publisher 344 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: calls and says you have a deadline of Friday, you're 345 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: on page one, then it's work. But if you're good 346 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: and organized and like you take on, you take the 347 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: initiative just to get things done, that maybe makes you 348 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: feel like if you love your if you love what 349 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: you do so much that you're ahead of schedule all 350 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: the time, then you never work a day in your life. 351 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: But if you have any iota of procrastination and your being. 352 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: Then there are going to be days where it feels 353 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: like you have to work because someone's going to be 354 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: asking you to do something that you haven't done yet, 355 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: and you're going to be stressed. 356 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: I just I have a hard time with it. And 357 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: I think the reason I do is because I almost 358 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: carried a shame for a long time if I would 359 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: feel like I was not loving my job every single 360 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: moment of every single life. Because I know that what 361 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I do is a gift, and like, I feel so 362 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: grateful to have the life that I have, especially to 363 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: get to do things that I genuinely love, just like you, 364 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Like I genuinely love the things that I do for work. 365 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: I love doing this podcast, and I love doing my 366 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: styling stuff. I love doing grooming and do I get 367 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: to go to really cool places I do, and like 368 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I have really cool clients, and like I get to 369 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: spend time with one of my best friends every week 370 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: doing this. Like I can't really think of anything better 371 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: as a job for me. I truly can't, right, But 372 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's called a job 373 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: for a reason. And like there's always I think there's 374 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: there's just stuff with every single thing. And so what 375 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: I found myself feeling was like when people would say 376 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: to me, oh my god, that's so cool that you 377 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: get to do that and call it a job, and 378 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: I would almost feel this shame for feeling like, yeah, 379 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: and there's hard days or hard aspects or like there 380 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: are days where I wake up and I don't want 381 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: to fucking go to my job either, Like that's just 382 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: because of things like you said, it's like there's deadlines 383 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: or sometimes I'm sick or I'm tired, or I'm going 384 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: for personalities or there's personalities that are hard to work with, 385 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: or like doing my job to the best that I 386 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: could do it means working really long hours or you know, 387 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: like and there's just certain things that like at the 388 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: end of it, yeah, like it's not like I'm getting 389 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: to just go you need to wear this, this and 390 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: this and walk out the door, and like I get 391 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: funds to every money that I you know, like buy 392 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: whatever I want for people. Like like you said, there's 393 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: personalities or people know what they want to look like, 394 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: they have their own insecurities, there's all together shipping issues, 395 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Like there's just factors that come into play that make 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: it not perfect if I had to say perfect about something, 397 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: And so I think again, it really kind of makes 398 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: us not be able to feel our feelings to go, Okay, well, 399 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: if you do what you love, it should never feel 400 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: like work. And I'm like, no, it still feels like 401 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: work some days. But I really love what I do, 402 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: and I like really try never to take it for granted. 403 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: I really try to really be appreciative and remember when 404 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm having those hard moments like the ones we just 405 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: described to go and this is still a fucking great job. 406 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: And I love that I get paid. The fact that 407 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I get paid to do this still blows my mind sometimes, 408 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, like to go back to gratitude. I think 409 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: that's a good tool, but I never want to like 410 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: shame myself into never being like, God, that was a 411 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: hard day, Like I just don't think that that's I. 412 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: See your point there, And you know, it's funny because 413 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: as you were talking, it made me realize, like, yeah, 414 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: it is the it's other people make me feel like 415 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: my job is fake because they're just like, I can't 416 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: believe that's your job. But then there are moments like 417 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: you know, I had a conversation with a coworker the 418 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: other day because we're dealing with some like music video 419 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: stuff and it's like literally half the day had gone 420 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: by and we were just dealing with emotions. And I 421 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: said to her, I was like, can you believe that 422 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: this is a job? Right? 423 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: Like this is like we haven't really. 424 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: Done anything all day, but we're doing something Like It's 425 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: like I could never explain to my mother how this 426 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: job works. But I manage an enterprise with an artist, 427 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: and the artist is the product and they're humans that 428 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: have to move around, and like, there is a lot 429 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: of orchestration that goes on and it can be very stressful. 430 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 2: But then there are also days where it's like I 431 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: look out and I'm like, I can't believe I get 432 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: paid to do this? Is relying amazing? Yes, truly is amazing. 433 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 2: But I will also say I think jobs like we 434 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: have where it's creative and you're doing what you love, 435 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: the imposter syndrome thing too, that's true really creeps in 436 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: because there are times when I'm like, I mean, why 437 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: am I getting paid to do this? Like why am 438 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: I so lucky that I get to do this? And 439 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: I have to remind myself that I worked really fucking 440 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: hard to get here. 441 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: And also like, I're literally one of the most creative 442 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: people I know. So like, it's funny that because it's 443 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: easy when you hear other people say it, because in 444 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: my head, I look at you, I'm like, you have 445 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: so much music knowledge. You're like one of the most 446 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: knowledgeable people about the business that I know. You're so creative. 447 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: But it's the stuff that we tell ourselves because I 448 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: would never think that about you, you know what I mean? 449 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally so interesting. I think this statement needs to 450 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: be rewritten that says if you hate what you do, 451 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: find another job. That's what it. 452 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: Should be like for sure. Don't wait well, because of 453 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: the thing of what do we spend eighty percent of 454 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: our lives working or something? Isn't there some status it's 455 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: something ridiculous. Sorry that I don't have the actual percentage, 456 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: but if you google it it will come up immediately 457 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: because it's very talked about that we. 458 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: See of your waking hours or something. 459 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: It's something, yes, but it's some ridiculous percentage that amount 460 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: of time that we spend working. And if you're miserable 461 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: in that, like that would be a sad thing that 462 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: you would spend so much of your life doing that 463 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: it would. 464 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Also creep into the rest of your life. There's no 465 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: word being that dissatisfied with where you have to go 466 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: eight hours a day doesn't affect your relationships at home. 467 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: Okay, but can I give you an astrology spend That 468 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: just came to me as we were saying this, because 469 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: I do believe we all have different purposes in our lives, right, 470 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: and like you and I both have probably had different 471 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: lifetimes where providing, for instance, was like our soul's purpose. 472 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: And so again this would be why understanding why you 473 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: wanted the life that you have, like through via astrology 474 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: or whatever tool you use. And I think you can 475 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. Astrology is just one that 476 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: speaks to me. But like, what if in your life 477 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: you feel like, I have to go to this job 478 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: I hate because I have kids and a wife and 479 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: like you know, we have this house and I have 480 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: to pay the bills or whatever it is that you 481 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: feel like, or just even like literally to feed myself. 482 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I have to go to this job I fucking hate. 483 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: Like the narrative change could be about what was your 484 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: soul here to do? Though, and like looking at you know, 485 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's not about actually loving the work that you're doing. 486 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: But maybe your job is to show up and like 487 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: energetically help the people you work with or be able 488 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: to provide for a family, like those are not nothing, 489 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, like those are very important things. 490 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: Or being a mother is a job, you know, being 491 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: a parent is a job exactly, and really a job 492 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: is part of parenting. 493 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so do you see the spin I'm making though, 494 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: It's like totally do you think? We're both in creative 495 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: fields and so for us it was like a very 496 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: big calling to actually be very passionate about the specific 497 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: work we're doing. But I'm not sure that's everyone's soul calling, 498 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that that's even something that matters to everyone. 499 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: So again, yeah, like if you do what you hate, 500 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: or you hate what you do, quit or find a 501 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: new job could be the saying. And also it could 502 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: be like, or look at what your soul soul's purposes 503 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: and maybe the actual work piece of it isn't what 504 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: your soul cares about, like what are the bigger pictures 505 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: all of this? 506 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Or maybe that shitty job was was put in put 507 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: in your path to force you to find something that 508 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: you're passionate about, you. 509 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Know, like, oh yeah, so at night. 510 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: You start painting or you start writing or whatever it 511 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: is out on the side, So do you have an outlet? 512 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: And then you find out you're really fucking good at it? 513 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you're a number one selling New 514 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: York Times author. Okay, but Mel Robbins, let them, let them, 515 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: let them be. 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. Good things come to those who waits. 517 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: A bullshit. 518 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Good things come to those who wait. 519 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: A bullshit, Like, yeah, you can't just sit around and wait, 520 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: do you have? Look, I do think patience is a virtue. 521 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: It is, and it's an incredibly important virtue. But you 522 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: just sit around and wait to be handed something, something good, 523 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: and chances are it's not gonna come. You have to 524 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: put in the effort for those things to arrive, and 525 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: just sitting around and waiting just also sounds really fucking boring, 526 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: Like there's no adventure to it, there's no learning to it, 527 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: there's there's no pain in it. You know, you can't. 528 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I do think good things take time, 529 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: and often things that take longer to come to fruition 530 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: are so much more fulfilling. But maybe that's what. 531 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: That statement that, yeah, that's a good reframe of that. 532 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: I had to in thoughts because there's one piece of 533 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: me that goes that is a good consideration for a 534 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: culture that is so control driven, Like we think we 535 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: are just driving the bus of life all the time, right, 536 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: and so it's like sometimes life is telling you slow 537 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: down or wait or like this isn't the time to 538 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: make a big decision, and we decide not to listen 539 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: because we're like, no, that's not what I want, and 540 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: then it blows up. So there was that part of 541 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: my brain. But then the immediate other thought I had 542 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: was like the conversation we have in our friend group 543 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: all the time, thinking about if you're sitting on your 544 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: couch every night and bitching about how there's no men 545 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: in the market for you to date, but you're not 546 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: going out, you're not on the apps. You're like, it's like, 547 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: what are you expecting They're gonna walk into your house 548 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: while you're sitting in your pajamas and that's how y'all. 549 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: Meet, Like are gonna delivery your dominos? 550 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: Yes? Exactly? Ups, guy is gonna be the guy you 551 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: fall in love with? Like, I mean, that could happen 552 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's like a couple I'm sure there's 553 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: a couple circumstances where that's been the case. But for 554 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the most part, you do have to make some effort 555 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: to meet people, right, And so that is kind of 556 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: where I feel about the statement mostly is like you 557 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: do have to put energetically at least even a step 558 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: in the right direction, Like you have to make some 559 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: movement towards something, even if it's not specifically like you 560 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: asking a guy on a date. Maybe try to like 561 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: go out to a restaurant and sit around a single 562 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: group of guys or you know, like start making some 563 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: sort of motion in that direction, and then let the 564 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: universe step in as well, like work with the universe. 565 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: But you can't just wait for the universe to just 566 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: drop something in your lap and think it's going to 567 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: happen magically. 568 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: No, not at all. We do live in a culture now, 569 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: and I think this is more true in recent years 570 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: than probably whenever the statement became a statement, But we 571 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: all went instant gratification for things. So I think it's 572 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: like it's probably being used a lot now because people 573 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: are like trying to get us all to slow down 574 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: and sort of pump the brakes on our expectations. So 575 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: I think that is healthy, that's a healthy use of it. Yeah, 576 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: I just think it's the way that the sentence is constructed. 577 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: They use their wrong words, like, you know, it just 578 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: needs to be that like, yeah, time, time makes things better, 579 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's I don't know, I didn't make that. 580 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: I didn't make up the statement to begin with. 581 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: So well, speaking of I will rewrite it for him. 582 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: You're not going to rewrite those. But you were like, 583 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: this is inspiring me, Chip is this is again how 584 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: he's very creative. This is inspiring me to write my 585 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: own statements. And so you came up with a list, 586 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: and I thought that you should share this with the listeners. 587 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: I've only heard a couple and I was like, don't 588 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: tell me anymore. I want to have a real time reaction. 589 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, I want you to have a real reaction, but 590 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 2: I also want you to tell me if you like, 591 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: if I use this like just in a normal conversation 592 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: one day and you'd never heard it, if you I've 593 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: made it up, or if you thought or if you 594 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: would think that like it was actually some like some idiot. 595 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: What is the right word for these things? 596 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: Huh, what's the right word for these praises? 597 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: Like praise? I don't know anyway, So here we go. 598 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Here's some of the ones. Rock Bottom just means you're 599 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: perfectly positioned to start digging sideways? 600 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: What does it even mean? I feel like if you 601 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: say most of these, I'll be like, what what does 602 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: it mean? 603 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, I guess it means like up 604 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: isn't the only direction you can go, Like you can 605 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: kind of go to the side, even at rock bottom. 606 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's so specific that if you said that one, 607 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: I might be like, huh, who said that? Mout Robins. 608 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have tout commit these autumn 609 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: memory and just drop them in conversations. 610 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 611 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: Okay, here's the other. Crying in your car counts a 612 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: self care if the windows are tinted. 613 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: But why do they have to be tinted. I'm like, 614 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: let that freak flag fly. 615 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean true, Yeah, you were like crying with the 616 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 2: windows down driving down the highway. I guess it's like 617 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: the self care part and it being like secretive. 618 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Okay, or it could be tinted with rose colored glasses. Yeah, 619 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: is that. 620 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: Getting rose colored tinting. 621 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: It's rose colored. Okay. 622 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: Every red flag is a motivational banner if you squint 623 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: hard enough. 624 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a motivational banner to get the 625 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: fuck out of there. 626 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that one. I could probably use 627 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: that and no one would question that. No. 628 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean that actually definitely sounds like something that Robbins 629 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: would say. 630 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: If you went hard enough. Okay, pain is just love 631 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: doing coseplay as personal growth. Wow. That one is taking 632 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: a deep But that one also kind of is like 633 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: time heals. 634 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: All winds a little bit. Yeah, wait, say it again. 635 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: Pain is just pain, is just love doing cause play 636 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: is personal growth. 637 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I fully understand what cause play is, 638 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: but is that. 639 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: It's like dress It's it's basically like pain is just 640 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: love dressed up as personal growth. Oh again a costume? 641 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, God that's deep. Wow I'm still processing. 642 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Okay, that's like that what's that lyric from Stephen Wilson 643 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Junior where it's like pain is only love with nowhere 644 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: else to go? 645 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, pain is only love with nowhere else to go? Yeah, 646 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and they also say the thing about you 647 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: can't your grief, like grief is only showing you how much. 648 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: You loved right right, Yeah, I mean. 649 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Phrases back. This whole podcast is just one big phrase back. 650 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: And oh my god, we should just get real cliche 651 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: and only do phrases. 652 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: For the rest of phrases. 653 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: Catchphrase, it's the new name of our podcast. 654 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: You have any more? Every Monday, you guys can tune 655 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: in to catchphrase catch phrase? Rich It and I just 656 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: go back and forth to each other trying to trump 657 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: each other's catchphrases. Do you have any more knowledge you 658 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: want to drop on us? 659 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: That's it? 660 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: Those are the big ones. I'm gonna really like, I 661 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: really got to mull some of those over and see 662 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: see who it comes to me. The cosplay one really 663 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: got me, like, does it make sense? Make it make sense? 664 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, my god, I'm going to make one 665 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: of those things for my Instagram, like those inspirational quotes. Yeah, 666 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: claim that one. See if it goes. 667 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Viral, you probably could just make it, make it pretty. 668 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: You never know, right, Oh my god, I'll die if 669 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: you go viral for these things. I mean, I think 670 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: the point I'm always trying to make is I want 671 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: these to go deeper, which is what I really pray 672 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: from life anyway. Right, It's like I want to make 673 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: sure we're not just skimming the surface, like we're really 674 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: working with what's happening to us, are for us, however 675 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: you want. That's another catchphrase. It's like it's not happening 676 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: to you, it's happening for you. I just think it's 677 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: good to not stop short of allowing yourself the possibility 678 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: of growth in any moment. 679 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: So that I feel like a lot of these things 680 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: were written by parents to teach a lesson to a kid, 681 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: which is why they're so like sort of surface. 682 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're almost like the shut. 683 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: Up and go to their job at subway or whatever. 684 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: You know, Like, look, find a job that you love, 685 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: because if you love what you do, you never work 686 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: a day in your life. Now get out of here, 687 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's like. 688 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna do. You're from Jersey, so I just feel 689 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: like that's really all. 690 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 2: Get out of here, kid. I feel like that's where 691 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: these things. Okay, I'm drunk, I'm not what I do. 692 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: Never worked a day in my life. 693 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: It's such a full circle. Okay, Jersey Dad, did you 694 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: want to send us out this? I mean like because 695 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, literally, if I try. 696 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: To do the Jersey voice again, it'll come out something Russia, 697 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: and I know it. 698 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's actually accurate. So we're just saying, 699 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: take these statements and take the next step with it, 700 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Take it a little deeper. That's the whole point. Life 701 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: is just messy. Don't live on the surface. Tick deeper. 702 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: It's layered. Go go, go through the layers. We're coming 703 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: up with phrases. 704 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: Honestly, because what doesn't kill you does make you stronger. 705 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean truly, it actually does so in summary, In summary, 706 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: it actually does give it time if you look at 707 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: what the whys you work with it whatever, if you 708 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: allow it to let's say it that way. Yeah, I 709 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, what do you guys think? Are there 710 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: phrases that bother you? 711 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 2: Let us know, Please send us. 712 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: You can email us at the edge at Velvet edge 713 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: dot com. You can always hit me up on Instagram. 714 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm at Velvet Edge, Chip, I'm at Chip Doors. 715 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: It's Chip A D O R sh. 716 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: And as you guys go into the weekend and you're 717 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: living on the edge, I hope you always remember. 718 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 2: To act casual. 719 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: You remember when I could never get that statement right. 720 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: We have come leaps and bounds just to throw an 721 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: raise in there for you. 722 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, time healed that one field. 723 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: It Practice makes perfect. 724 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: Okay, there's another. 725 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: All right, bye. 726 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: Sound check one. 727 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you let me know when you're ready. Little Angel, 728 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm choking on something. 729 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: Give Ade.