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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion, that's the

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: All frickin Yeah, get fired up right Monday May twentieth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and you have stopped in on the

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Speaker 3: award winning best damn combat sports show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that there ever was, I'm talking about Morning Combat,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell, Luke, If this is how good

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Speaker 1: boxing can be a couple of days after USIK versus Fury,

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Speaker 1: then I don't want to come back down from this cloud.

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Speaker 1: It's it's taken me all this time to find out

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Speaker 1: what I need.

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Speaker 2: I hope you get hit by a drunk drip on

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Speaker 2: the way home, and.

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Speaker 1: What I need is more Bush in my life is

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Speaker 1: clearly not the president, Okay, not the rock band. Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: how are you on this Monday morning Manhattan Metal Larks Studios.

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Speaker 2: Dude, my sport on fire, on fire in a historic way.

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Speaker 2: I've got some stats to show a little bit late.

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Speaker 2: I hope they're nerdy af they just illuminate that the

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Speaker 2: it's so true the period we're in right now starting

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Speaker 2: with last year, so I'll say all of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: first half of this year. I know it's not quite

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Speaker 2: half the year, but you know, basically the first half

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Speaker 2: of the year boxing has been absolutely on fire and

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Speaker 2: with no signs of letting up. We were supposed to

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Speaker 2: get better, be even bivoll on June first. We'll still

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Speaker 2: get wilder and when we can talk about this later.

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Speaker 2: But I just mean banger after banger after banger after

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Speaker 1: Mean you can't say wilder versus without saying banger because

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Speaker 1: with Alabama and Trying Power coming together.

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Speaker 2: We're going to bang each other.

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Speaker 1: We are hair to bang E chowder E chowder. There

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Speaker 1: you go, right there, Luke, forgive me for being this

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Speaker 1: excited on this Monday morning. Here, I got a pat

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Speaker 1: I got a bad four to twenty Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Get wow.

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Speaker 1: I took that five to eleven train out of Harvord.

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Speaker 2: Why did you get here so early?

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Speaker 1: I think the five twenty six was sold out?

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Speaker 2: So what time does that get you here? Eight?

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Speaker 1: It's me here at eight.

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Speaker 2: So you get to the studio, what like eight thirty. Yes,

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Speaker 2: why don't you just leave a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I went to the cafe around the corner,

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Speaker 1: finished my research watching fight. You know that's how it

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Speaker 1: went down. But uh, I'm just so damn fired up

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Speaker 1: to be here with you folks, so damn fired up

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Speaker 1: to be here talking about this great sport, a great

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Speaker 1: show obviously for you today, a lot of it will

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Speaker 1: be Usik versus Fury in the fallout from the first

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Speaker 1: four belt undisputed championship.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about those nub Ass UFC.

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Speaker 1: Fights, We'll talk about pf elatour and of course the

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Speaker 1: breaking news that's going all wrong. We'll check in out

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Speaker 1: all things Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul as we get

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Speaker 1: closer to July twentieth. But uh, forget me for just

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Speaker 1: sitting here just high as balls on the box.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's so good right now.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I'm not even doing a bit, It's it's

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Speaker 2: historically good right now. This is this eighteen month stretch,

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Speaker 2: I've consistent as I have seen boxing, certainly since I

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Speaker 1: Certain what do you say to those fans that complain,

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Speaker 1: we need chapters so that we can avoid the boxing talk,

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Speaker 1: so we can get right to the Ian I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean dead serious. I'm not here to poo

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Speaker 2: Event was fine and mean. Event was good. Larne Murphy

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Speaker 1: We had the first TKO via boob punch in UFC history.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and then there was a headbutt, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Saudi Santa Claus is on five.

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Speaker 2: It's not even just them. We go back to twenty

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Speaker 1: I believe all journalists have lived since Saudia have entered boxing.

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Speaker 2: We need to get the trailer updated for this fucking yeah?

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Speaker 2: The fuck is the story with that?

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Speaker 1: I know that that is also coming along with your dms.

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Speaker 1: the first four belt undisputed heavyweight fight and boxing history,

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Speaker 1: Usik Rallies to score a knockdown in round nine, goes

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Speaker 1: How shocking was it to see the smaller man not

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. In the long and decorated career of Alexander Usika,

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Speaker 1: Doing it's not that long in twenty two fights, right, well.

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Speaker 2: think that this fight with Fury is so special for

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Speaker 1: I gave him one and two. I gave Fury three

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Speaker 2: I do think that he there was some out smarting

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Speaker 2: So this is what I mean like creating situations. But

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Speaker 1: Was having not known as a puncher, not known as

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Speaker 2: it is belief, it is everything that makes up And

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Speaker 2: let's be clear about this BC. As I mentioned, European champ,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the highlight in a second.

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Speaker 2: Said so, one of the best cruiser classes in history.

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Speaker 1: What else would we ask of a great fighter to

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Speaker 1: Turns out Usik was even more brilliant than we thought

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Speaker 1: There is a point of contention. Heire on haw Mark Nelson,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Could he have been justified in stopping

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Speaker 1: But Luke, had they done that, it would have been fine.

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Speaker 1: But I'm actually here to tell you I think Mark

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Speaker 1: Nelson got it right, because what do we actually want

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Speaker 1: one big surge and where the guy doesn't even go

436
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Speaker 1: down and then the fights just stopped. I want to

437
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Speaker 1: give Tyson Fury that chance. So I'm actually glad that

438
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Speaker 1: he allowed Usik the chance to finish him. Usik didn't.

439
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: Then he ruled the knockdown, which was rightfully so the

440
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: corner ropes held him up, and then you give Fury

441
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: ten seconds to beat it. I don't like when people

442
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: just wave it off. Give the fire to the ten

443
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: seconds to beat it in a fight this big. He

444
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: did that again. Could you have stopped it in that sequence?

445
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: You could have, but I think there would have been

446
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about, hey man, he didn't even

447
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: hit the canvas premature. Yes, it would have amped up

448
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: the rematch. The rematch is already amped up. We already

449
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: need to stop everything and see this fight. Mike Coppinger

450
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: VSPN is reporting that October twelfth is a targeted rematch,

451
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 1: and even though initially Usik's manager put it out there Alex,

452
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's promoter Alex Krasik put it out there

453
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: that he had a broken jaw. They thought it was

454
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: a broken jaw. Usik denied medical attention, didn't go to

455
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: the hospital until after the press conference. They found out

456
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: he'll be fine in a week, no break. But he

457
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: had walked through hell to endure this and to get

458
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: his hand raised. I mean, I don't want to do

459
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: anything else but just sit here and be like, holy shit.

460
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 1: This is the type of fight. This is the type

461
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 1: of setting foundation with the stakes, and this is the

462
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: type of performance that makes boxing fans or life. Heavyweight

463
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: has always been the gateway drug. Whether it's the Rocky movies,

464
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 1: whether you came in under Mike Tyson or you came

465
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: in under Ali Fraser in the seventies, or you came

466
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: in under Lennox Lewis and Holyfield in the nineties. Heavyweight

467
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: is the imprint on your brain. Great heavyweight Championship boxing,

468
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: that is, It's the greatest drug we have in this sport.

469
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing. Look, this was a return to that.

470
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: I know We've had pieces of it over the years.

471
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: Clitch Goo versus Joshua was a great fight. The Wilder

472
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: Fury series had drama throughout, but none of those fights

473
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: were as important as this one. And to just I

474
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: feel like the sport was revived. I feel like, like

475
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: like this is the best case scenario. It's almost as

476
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Speaker 1: if this fight like wasn't as commercially big as it

477
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: should have. And then we were like, yeah, but there's

478
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Speaker 1: potential it could be this.

479
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Speaker 2: Borings we're living in an era. Well, first of all,

480
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: both guys brought it, which is kind of what your

481
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: highlighting what you want, right, both guys brought Also, the

482
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 2: Saudis are getting better at making live shows. Yes, this

483
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: one was still long, but wasn't as long.

484
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Speaker 1: The pageantry in the pomp and circumstance is worth it.

485
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: The guy wrapping ahead of time was a little more sure.

486
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Speaker 1: That was a great get.

487
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm not into hip music, but I'm not saying it's

488
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: a bad get. It didn't do anything for me, but again,

489
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: not enough. Shakira just well, I mean, they would just

490
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, they'd be cutting her heavy. But the point

491
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is fine, It wasn't overly completely

492
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Speaker 2: ridiculous like it was for Fury and Gone. It was

493
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: a little bit smoother. But I just want to make

494
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Speaker 2: a point if I can. We were talking before BC

495
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: about how this moment and time in boxing, like very

496
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: disgruntled MMA fans, here's how special this is. This is

497
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: the first time in the four belt era we had

498
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Speaker 2: a unified champion at heavyweight or undisputed. I should say,

499
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: I want to make a point. Here are all of them, right,

500
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: who have ever won in the four belt era undisputed title.

501
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: Bernard Hopkins did it in September of two thousand and four,

502
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Jermaine Taylor did it in July of two thousand and five,

503
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: Josh Taylor did it in May of twenty twenty one.

504
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez did it in November of twenty twenty one,

505
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 2: Jamal Charles did it in May of twenty twenty two,

506
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: Devin Haney did it in June of twenty twenty two.

507
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: Listen to this. Terrence Crawford, Alexander Usik, and Noia in

508
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: a way, plus Katie Taylor have all done two of those, yes,

509
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: two of those in a ten month span. We are

510
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: talking about a moment in time where we have across

511
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: both genders and a numerous weight classes with very different

512
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: styles and different ways to win All time greats. First

513
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: Ballot Hall of Famers turning in motherfucking epic performances that.

514
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: You need to see again.

515
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: You need to see against credentialed opposition for all the

516
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: fucking marbles. If you're asking why people are so jazzed

517
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: about boxing right now, we are in the middle of

518
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: what can only be described as historically amazing shit. That's

519
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: why I love this shit.

520
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the scoring of the fight. I scored

521
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: it six rounds to six, then you get the extra

522
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Speaker 1: bonus point for USA getting the knockdown in round nine,

523
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: So that's one fourteen, one thirteen Usik on my card.

524
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Speaker 1: How did you score it?

525
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Speaker 4: So?

526
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: I think I gave in Some of these are very close,

527
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: especially rounds one through three or one, one and two

528
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: in particularly sure I think you know when I was

529
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: watching and trying to do like a stream at the

530
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Speaker 2: same time. So but to the best of my approximation,

531
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Speaker 2: I think I had it seven rounds to five for Usik,

532
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: so with the knockdown, that would be one fifteen, one

533
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Speaker 2: twelve for him. I think I gave him one, two,

534
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Speaker 2: then seven, eight, nine, ten, and then I think I

535
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: gave him eleven as well. And then I give fury

536
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Speaker 2: h three, four, five, six, twelve.

537
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Speaker 1: Okay, the only difference is I gave I think I

538
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: had one round off of you, and I gave it

539
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: to Usik seven.

540
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: I think you had seven. Maybe a little bit different,

541
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Speaker 2: do you sixteen six? By the way, it's fine. I

542
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 2: think seven to five Usik or six six with then

543
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: the knockdown is fine.

544
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Speaker 1: You love it because unlike let's say Haini Lomachenko, which

545
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: was a great fight in a close fight, and it's

546
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: not a robbery that Hani won that. It's just that

547
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: the majority of observers thought that Lomitch done enough in

548
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: this fight. The majority of observers thought that Usik did enough. Obviously,

549
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: it helps with the round nine knockdown, even though it's

550
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Speaker 1: only worth one bonus. Boy, But Luke, do you think

551
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: there would have been issue with a draw or a

552
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: close fury win? Was it that type of fight where

553
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: it really could have been a flip a coin either way?

554
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: In your eyes?

555
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: It would have been one of those I mean, dude,

556
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: yeh an mma. Again, it's different because you have different

557
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: kind of incentive for rooting structure. But people thought because

558
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: of the knockdown and he overperformed and Gano had beaten Fury,

559
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: but there's a way to look at that underboxing criteria

560
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: and do what you did was like, no, Fury actually

561
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: won that. To have that happen two times in a row,

562
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: and granted, I know the in Gano won the exhibition,

563
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards whatever, but to have that habit too.

564
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Fans at the end of that, it seemed to me

565
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: were like, don't you dare steal that from Usik? Don't

566
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: you do it. Don't you steal from the guy who

567
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: was the smaller guy who knocked the other guy down,

568
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: who maybe could have gotten a stoppage with a different

569
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: referee who surged in the second half. Don't you steal

570
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: this from him? And I do feel like that would

571
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: have correct And if you had gotten the opposite, you know,

572
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: people would have been like, listen.

573
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: That would have been so boxing if Fury weren't.

574
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: Exactly right, because what happened was you were like, yes, yes,

575
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: this guy beat the game, he beat the system. This

576
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: is how it's supposed to go. And if the opposite

577
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: had happened, to be like, fucking boxing one more time

578
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: steals from talking.

579
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: About this is just a perfect storm right now, it's

580
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: all lining up. I mentioned that Usik was fighting not

581
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: just for himself, but like he's a guy who always

582
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: in the interviews will say, it's not about the money

583
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: or the glory. I'm only here for the competition, for

584
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: the riches that come of accomplishing, which he's all about.

585
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: But it was obviously for the country, which elevates it.

586
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: It was also the personal relationship of having lost his father,

587
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: which became a big part of his motivation. Apparently there's

588
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: been a string of his father appearing in his dreams

589
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: the night before the fights, and then this was the

590
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: first time his dad didn't. I think there was a

591
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: her dad did, but told him in the dream, I

592
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: don't need to be with you any Usik addressed this

593
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: in a very emotional post fight interview that I want

594
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Speaker 1: to throw to now.

595
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 7: For me, where my father come in for me? Because

596
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 7: I remember out my life, I know, uh he's here.

597
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: Maybe like.

598
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: So Luke. I think what he's trying to say is

599
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: his dad normally would come into his dreams the night

600
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: before this time, the dad came in and said, I

601
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: don't need to visit you here. You got this, you

602
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: know you can. And I don't know if you saw

603
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: in the ring. His post for interview, which was translated

604
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: not to the main broadcasting but to a secondary one.

605
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: He looked up. They said, what would you say to you?

606
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: What do you think your dad saying now? And he said, Dad,

607
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: you told me I can. I did, dude. This is

608
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: just like this is like Pantosia level reaction of just

609
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: like on top of doing it for your country, for

610
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: the history, that personal relationship of his late father just

611
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: beyond touching.

612
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: It makes him a sympathetic character, and his entire story

613
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: and everything about it, his nationality obviously is a difficult

614
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: time for his country. I mean everything about it, Like

615
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: boxing doesn't get a ton of feel good stories folk caros,

616
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: and especially at high levels like this. This is the

617
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: highest level. This is all the marbles and you still

618
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: got something like it. And I've said it before too,

619
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: and everyone's going to be different, But losing a parent

620
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: broke me, sure broke me completely. And if people have said, yeah,

621
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: it's been a years since he died, like you know,

622
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: what's the issue, I'm like, well, first of all, like that,

623
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: grief just doesn't leave you. He looked at me, and

624
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: there's time, I mean he can really barely talk at times,

625
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: and more to the point, you know, it's kind of funny.

626
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: I've had my mom's been dead twenty one years. I've

627
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: had one dream where she showed up, just one, just one.

628
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: So for him and I've been haunted by her death,

629
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: but not like in my dreams. So for him to

630
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: be seeing his dad in his dreams, I cannot overstate

631
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: to you. I don't know if it's unusual. I don't.

632
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: I guess everyone's going to be different. But I'm just

633
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: saying that's a lot to deal with, to see your

634
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: dead parent in your dreams and have an interaction with them.

635
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: It's not a normal thing.

636
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, he's been living on the hope of what his

637
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: dad told him before he died, that you can do this,

638
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: you can become Underspeed heavyweight champion one day. So to

639
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: see that come full circle with this.

640
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Victory, yea. I'm just saying he's trying to manage all

641
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: of the emotions of that and then also go fight

642
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury. That's a tall for.

643
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: Anybody that doesn't know. When we talk about his biggest

644
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: heavyweight wins, which are so over the top and they

645
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: matter in this twice against Anthony Joshua, once against Fury,

646
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: in all three fights. He had to take big punishment,

647
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: like people don't realize. I went back and rewatched the

648
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: first AJ fight and AJ did a lot better than

649
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Speaker 1: I remember right. Both fights were close ish in the scoring.

650
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Dude AJ was although we criticize him for not walking

651
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: down and aggressively trying to buy Usk, in fact, he

652
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: came out and tried to outskill him. There were countershots

653
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: that were knockout punches that Usik were just forced to take,

654
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: just like in this fight, with those uppercuts and rounds three,

655
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: four and five. It's again, it's not just the sublime skill,

656
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: it's that this is what this is. This is what

657
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: you want out of your heavyweight championship of the world.

658
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: The courage to go in there and do stuff like that.

659
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Speaker 1: It's just remarkable. I do want to talk about Fury.

660
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: There was some debate whether he was still concussed in

661
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: the post fight interviews because he said happy what do

662
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: you say Happy New Year to everybody? And then there's

663
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: this comment which came across somewhat controversial. Let's listen to it.

664
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Speaker 6: First of all, I want to fight my Lord and

665
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: save you Jesus Christ. That was fantastic fight with Alexander.

666
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: I believe I won that fight.

667
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 6: I believe he won a few of the rounds.

668
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: But I want majority of.

669
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Speaker 6: Them, and I believe it was a what do you do?

670
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 6: One of them fat things and decisions in boxing, And

671
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 6: we've both put on a blog light the best we

672
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: could do. And you know, his country's at war, so

673
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 6: people aside him with the country at war. But make

674
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: no mistake, I want not fighting. My opinion on I'll

675
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 6: be's bok.

676
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: So that's the point of contention there the whole Like,

677
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, they were very he was very humble in

678
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he huged Usic after kissed him on

679
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: the forehead. They had a very nice sort of you know,

680
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: respect moment. Then you pile on with well, he only

681
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: got the decision because we're in wartime, prass so our

682
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: loser or can cuss guy in the moment dealing with

683
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: his first defeat in a legendary fight that really could

684
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: have been scored either way to some degree.

685
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you can find seven rounds for Tyson Fury.

686
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you can find six. You cannot find seven,

687
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to change my rule. My rule

688
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: is that dude got his shit rocked in that fight,

689
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: in that ninth round, not by just one shot, but

690
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: by other ones, and god only knows. I'm not going

691
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: to judge him for that. Now. If he comes out

692
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: and doubles down on it in a subsequent interview when

693
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: he is not fresh off of getting his brain rattled,

694
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: that's a different story for MEBC. I think the bigger question, though,

695
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: is not so much that, and we'll talk about where

696
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: this all goes in just a minute. Why am I

697
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: expected to believe that Tyson Fury being thirty five is

698
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: worth us discounting what he's physically capable of. When Usik

699
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: did this at thirty seven, I would.

700
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Speaker 1: Say, I get what your point is. I don't. I

701
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: don't sit here and put an asterisk on when I'm

702
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: about to ask you the question I'm about to ask

703
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: you in the natural flow of this rundown, which is

704
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: at thirty five, is Fury compromised? Did he prove that

705
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: he's past his prime to a level that you know what,

706
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: would the would the four years ago Fury have won

707
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: this fight have stopped Uzick in that moment. I'm not

708
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: going to hold that against it. But to answer your question,

709
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: he's taken more physical damage in his pro career. Usk

710
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: only had twenty two pro fights. He had three hundred

711
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: and fifty amateur fights, which are three round fights, a

712
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: lot of times with headgear before they change the rules.

713
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there isn't in a physical accumulation there,

714
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: but it is different. Fury, for example, has been in

715
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: a few absolute wars, I mean all three, while other

716
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: fights are the first and the third. For example, you

717
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: know he was dropped to total of four times. He

718
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: got dropped by Anghano. He's been in there with some

719
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: big hitters. Is he still the same guy? Luke Thomas.

720
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this as a excuse. I'm not saying

721
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: this to downgrade Usik's victory. In fact, I'm about to

722
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: tell you in segment two how I think Fury can

723
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: win the rematch. But did he lose this because of

724
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: a miscalculation or did he lose this because he couldn't

725
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: keep up the face of the pace of Usik? And

726
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: even though Usik is two years older, he was actually

727
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: the fresher fighter.

728
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: We shall find out, all right, gonna go top So.

729
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: You don't so is that how much stock do you

730
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: put in I'm literally asking how I don't.

731
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I just don't have an answer, because I everyone made

732
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: a big deal out of the fact that he was

733
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Speaker 2: thirty five, and I'm like, Usik is older now, he

734
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: was smaller, so therefore I guess it's less weightful.

735
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Speaker 1: Your prime happens at different times.

736
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Sure, we're not talking about we're not talking about a

737
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: vast disparity. And then one guy is Yes, everyone's different,

738
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: and Fury has had a bit more of a blood

739
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: and guts kind of style or at least fight results. Fine,

740
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: that's okay, and I can believe that it has some effect,

741
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: But thirty five is not old for it, certainly for

742
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: MMA heavyweights, granted, different sport.

743
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Not old for boxing heavyweights either.

744
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: I do think that Fury has lost a little bit

745
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: of a step. I do think that is true, whether

746
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: it's a combination of factors, age, damage.

747
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Motivation, ballooning up and down in wait, living and down.

748
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: In wait, and then of course he had that whole

749
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: that time off that's going to derail him potentially a

750
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: little bit early. By the way, the payout for this

751
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: was supposed to be I think forty six million for Usik,

752
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: one hundred and two million for Fury, which is an

753
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: astronomical amount of money. But when and that beats twelve

754
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: and twelve Maria Agappov UFC flyway and talk about she's

755
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: gonna be homeless in a week. I mean, okay, either

756
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: here nor there. I guess what I'd just like to

757
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: say is it makes for me. It's hard to know

758
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: the answer to that one. I think there is some

759
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: reason for admitting Fury is not at his peak peak peak. However,

760
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to take anything away from Usik because

761
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: I do believe that Fury fought well rallying into the twelfth.

762
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: You got to give him credit.

763
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: It brought drama on point. Fury also could have fought

764
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Usick three years ago after he knocked out Dillion Waite

765
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: or two years ago, whatever it was, and chose to

766
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: elong this process.

767
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again Usiks already the older guy. Yeah, so

768
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: all right, let's talk about what's going to happen next. Though,

769
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: bc ESPN's Mike Coppinger reporting from Saudi Arabia that the rematch,

770
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: as you indicated, is set for October twelfth. There is,

771
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: of course a rematch clause. Fury indicated that he wanted

772
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: to do that, although he walked it back a little

773
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: bit at the press conference again, probably just feeling like

774
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: I want to take a break, So we'll see. But

775
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: that's the tentative date. BC. Question for you, just how

776
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: much could we expect the rematch to look different from

777
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: this one?

778
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Look, we have to remember that Fury came ol so

779
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: close to actually winning it. In fact, he said in

780
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: the postfight press conference afterwards that if I could do

781
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: it all over, I would have finished him after I

782
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: heard him in the middle rounds. But at the same time,

783
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you can say could have showed what I think. He

784
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: was also trying to balance the gas tank because a

785
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: key part of the strategically was Usik pushing that pace

786
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: on him. But Luke, if there's criticism against Fury, and

787
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I think there is in terms of how he handled

788
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: the fight overall. He allowed Usik into his living room,

789
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: he willingly backed up to the ropes a lot of

790
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: times and tried almost to rope a dope. And I

791
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: know he was looking to line up big countershots. I'm

792
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: sure he wasn't trying to match Usick punch for punch,

793
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: but by not establishing that jab look, he had great

794
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: rounds with the jab in the middle rounds after he

795
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: hurt Usik, but the jab in the early part, in

796
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: the last part wasn't there as a consistent weapon. I

797
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: think when Fury goes back to the drawing board, you

798
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: might want to have the same discussion that we thought

799
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua should have had after the first one when

800
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: he changed trainers between the first two fights, and we thought, look,

801
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: you went in there and tried to outbox the master

802
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Usik in the first fight. It's almost like Canelo going

803
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: in there and trying to outbox Floyd, which he did in

804
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen and learned a really hard lesson. You know

805
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: what I mean that you're not gonna beat him with

806
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: your plan A. Floyd's the greatest wizard ever well from

807
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: a heavyweight standpoint, Usik is that wizard right now. You

808
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: can't do what Joshua did, which is just say okay,

809
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back and make a couple of little

810
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: alterations and get in better shape. I think that outside

811
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: of the fact that you could say Fury's gas tank

812
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: struggled a bit and maybe he should come in even

813
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: better shape. I'm wondering if the flip flop argument is true.

814
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if we see a Fury that comes in

815
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: not at two sixty seven, but closer to his highest

816
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: weight ever in the high two seventies, and instead says, look,

817
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I got backed up and cornered repeatedly by the smaller

818
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: man who actually almost knocked me out and walked me

819
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: down in this fight. I can't have that happen again, Luke.

820
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: It's different when we have certain fighters who don't like

821
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: when we're asking Anthony Joshua to maybe be somebody he

822
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: isn't fight on the inside, mall lean on, do all

823
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's actually not really who Joshua is. Joshua

824
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: stands at the mid range and likes to counter you

825
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: with heavy shots. But I think if Fury's going to

826
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: win this rematch, I would advise him to put on

827
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more weight. That doesn't mean be in

828
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: worse shape, be in better shape, but put on a

829
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: little bit more weight and be that bigger man and

830
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: that dirtier man that we thought he would be in

831
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: the first round in the first fight. Because I don't

832
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: think it's humbling to look in the mirror and say

833
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: I tried to outbox the smaller fighter, and the smaller

834
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: fighter not only outboxed me, he walked me down and

835
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: hurt me. But I don't think in hindsight that was

836
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: Fury's best strategy the way he executed it. You have

837
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: to establish that you're the bigger man when you have

838
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: advantages that much of six inches in height and seven

839
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: inches of reach and forty pounds of weight, you have

840
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: to lean on. You have to be dirty, you have

841
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: to make the referee get involved. I know I liked

842
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: Furies targeting to the body early with those big upper

843
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: custs to try to slow Usick down, but he found

844
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: out that Usik wasn't going to be finished or derailed

845
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: or deterred easily. So in the rematch, look, I would

846
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: like to see a bigger Fury who's looking at keeping

847
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: the ring smaller himself, not allowing Usik to back him up,

848
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: but instead the other way around, coming forward with that

849
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: jab and constantly looking to back him up to the

850
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: ropes and lean and maul and do everything. Do you

851
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: think that is the right strategy for the rematch? Do

852
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: you think we see it? Or am I wrong? And

853
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe the strategy is to go back and come in

854
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: even lower in weight and try to match Usick's movement.

855
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna beat Usik out of your

856
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: own game. I think it's the same thing that Anthony

857
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: Joshua tried the second time and lost the second time. Again.

858
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like changing it up is critical. I

859
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: think trying to go back and like refine what happened,

860
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: and this time there was some success, but I don't

861
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: think it's you can reproduce it. Fury wanted a game

862
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: plan where Usik had to come to him and then

863
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: the process get torched, and it worked for about the

864
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: first half of that fight, you know, give or take.

865
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: It worked. He was it wasn't just uppercuts to the body, dude.

866
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: Some of those uppercuts to the chin were vicious, and

867
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: he was landing it.

868
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: The technician like Haine not being able to pick up

869
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia's left hook. He just couldn't pick up those uppercuts.

870
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: He couldn't figure it out.

871
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Not in the first half. Yeah, second half, I got

872
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: a little bit better with it, But to the point

873
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: that you raise, I don't think you can go back

874
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: and then try again. Usik trapping him with outside fort

875
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: position forcing him to peel out to the wrong side

876
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: also in the well. I'll get down in just a second,

877
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: but there was just numerous ways in which I don't

878
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't think going back to the same well will

879
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: be good. However, let me share some skepticism about changing

880
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: it up as well, if you actually go back and

881
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: watch this. In the clinch, one thing that I saw

882
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: that Usik do. He was very good a lot of

883
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: times through the clinch about pulling and pushing and maneuvering,

884
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: avoiding underhooks by the way with high elbow blocking, and

885
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: also getting Fury out of position and then walloping him

886
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: in the inside. He didn't physically control the space in

887
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: the same way that Goanu had hard frames. He was

888
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: a little bit slicker through the whole process. But like

889
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: if you're asking me who did better in the clinch

890
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: in this fight, it's Alexander Rusik.

891
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: He was he was to get physically dominated, just like

892
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: against Joshua would he would stand his grown almost like

893
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: takedown defense.

894
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: He was quicker to the draw on these short shots

895
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: because he was so he knew that if you're this close,

896
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: your chance to tag Fury's head is right here, right now.

897
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: You got to do it. And he would pull the

898
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: trigger on that even if he got hit. So my

899
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: point being is I think that a different strategy of

900
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: forward movement putting the pressure on Usik is probably his

901
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: best bet given the alternative. At the same time, I

902
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: am trying to express skepticism about how well that could go,

903
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: because little flurries of it in the first fight also

904
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: did not go well for Tyson Fury. On balance, it's

905
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: very interesting.

906
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the bearer of bad news

907
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: and give you one of those hashtag that's boxing situations,

908
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: but we have to be fair and honest.

909
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: Here it's a box.

910
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: We have a new undisputed heavyweight champion, but the question

911
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: is for how long? Well, unfortunately I can answer that

912
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: for you. What's today May twentieth, What's going on June first,

913
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it is the five on five Eddie

914
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: Hearn versus Frank Warren Saudi Arabian card that was originally

915
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: going to be beev All Better Beef, And of course

916
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: the featured fight now is Deontay Wilder versus Big Bang Zhang.

917
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: But on that card is Philip Bergovic, the heavyweight from

918
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: Croatia who has already been the mandatory for usuks IBF title,

919
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: but has twice taken step aside money so that some

920
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: of these bigger fights can happen first, he has stated

921
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: he's no longer willing to take that step step aside money.

922
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: So when Ergovic goes in there on June first against

923
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Dubaugh, the top contender who just went stopped by

924
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: Alexander Usak after hurting him on a borderline low punch

925
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: that created some controversy in their fight, look, that fight

926
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: is looking to be for the vacant IBF title, which

927
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: means because Ergovic will no longer step aside. That's certainly

928
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: his want in the way that the in his you know,

929
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: he deserves this, in the way that the hierarchy of

930
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: the boxing rankings work in the sanctioning bodies. But what

931
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: does it say about boxing that we finally have this

932
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: great moment, first on disputed championship in twenty five years,

933
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: first time in the four belt era. We can't wait

934
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: for this rematch October twelve, But the IBF title is

935
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: going to go away between now and then. Usik's gonna

936
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: get stripped of it. When they do the rematch later

937
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: this year, it'll be for three of the four belts. Granted,

938
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: this does open up the idea for more business. Meaning

939
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: the winner of Ergovic versus Dubai is probably gonna fight

940
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua later this year, so probably in the UK.

941
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty five we want to see. Look,

942
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: we want to see Anthony Joshua against Tyson Fury. Whether

943
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: Fury wins this rematch or not, you're probably gonna see

944
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: that next year. But if Anthony Joshua can bring the

945
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: IBF title back into a super fight with whoever comes

946
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: out of us Fury in the rematch, you can do

947
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: it again for undisputed. But for all the good in boxing,

948
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: for all the celebration I'm trying to do about how

949
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: great this weekend was, in this last two years have

950
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: been Damn, Luke. We can only enjoy this for two weeks,

951
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: you can all. I mean, this is this is where we're.

952
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: At here, This is unfortunately. I mean, we're giving boxing

953
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: a lot of praise because I do think it deserves it,

954
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: but we can't we can't ignore. You know, there's too

955
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: many belts.

956
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: What do you make of too many belt? Turkey al Ashik,

957
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: the head of the Saudi Entertainment General whatever they calling that,

958
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: his title and his role. I know people are we

959
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: We're never gonna call him his excellency, right, we can

960
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: just say hey, hey Turkey, Hey Turk one two, you're

961
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: doing great.

962
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: I will not be like unnecessarily insulting, but I'm not

963
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: going to call him.

964
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: We had an interesting interview on the nime Fighting m

965
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: mao or with Ariel Hawani in which he almost made

966
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: a threat at the sanctioning bodies his point of contention,

967
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: in which he said he was very unhappy to the IBF,

968
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: which happens to be the sanctioning body that is inevitably

969
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: here going to strip Usik and said Canelo was just

970
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: named a mandatory from the IBF that he must defend

971
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: his four super Middle eight titles again, and it was

972
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: a guy we'd never heard of. And that happens because unfortunately,

973
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: even though the sanctioning bodies and these ranking systems are

974
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: created to give equal meritocric, meritocric merioucratic right to anyone,

975
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: you will inevitably get people you've never heard of, coming

976
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: from a country you've barely heard of, that did their

977
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: promoters pay for them to get that ranking. We always

978
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: make that debate, but I felt like Turkey was threatening

979
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: not just the IBF, but all the sanctioning bodies. When

980
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: he said this, I'm paraphrasing, but he more or less

981
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: told Ariel it would be a shame if all of

982
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: these big name fighters, and he mentioned having a relationship

983
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: with ninety eight percent of the fighters that matter in boxing,

984
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: he said, it would be a shame if they no

985
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: longer wanted to defend those titles. Look, this was a

986
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: topic that came up in twenty fifteen when Al Hayman

987
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: launched the PBC and bought time buys over every major network.

988
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: The whole question was is he going to say f

989
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: you to the sanctioning bodies and create PBC titles or are

990
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: these going to be the new recognized titles in boxing?

991
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's a threat from Turkey, that

992
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: there's a little bit too much of the shenanigans going on?

993
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: And there by the way there constantly is with all

994
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: four of these sanctioning bodies, some worse than others, like

995
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: do we need them anymore?

996
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: No need all of them. We don't need all of them.

997
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: That's the reality.

998
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: Could you see Turkey going the root of taking away

999
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: their power? I mean, we want one face, one champion

1000
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: in every division? Why do we need it?

1001
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest though, like you know, he has

1002
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: done a very good job with what he has tried.

1003
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: But we should and I don't mean this in any

1004
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: way like to be like unnecessarily negative. I would say

1005
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: this if it was any one powerful figure, no matter

1006
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: where they were from, and no matter any other consideration.

1007
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Do we want another single entity to then come in

1008
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: and yes, make big fights, of course we want that,

1009
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: But then to control some of the architecture of boxing,

1010
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: I get a little bit. I don't know if that's

1011
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: a good idea either, right we part of the reason

1012
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: why you do want sanctionary This is what people don't

1013
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: understand about fight sports is that when everything is consolidated,

1014
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: people think everything is better. And there are many ways

1015
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: in which consolidation does make things easier to understand and

1016
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: more popular. But at the same time, that consolidation equals

1017
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: control for either a single entity or a small group

1018
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: of entities, and you don't want that either. That's a

1019
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: major problem. So diversifying who has to say and who's

1020
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: got power in the sport it does keep a ceiling

1021
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: on it, but it also prevents it from being overtaken

1022
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: in theory. So while I acknowledge some of Turkey Ala

1023
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: Sheikh's criticisms of what's happening in these sanctioning bodies, I

1024
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: don't know that one person coming in and just wiping

1025
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: them away is really the answer.

1026
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: Either, It might not be a may add more dilution

1027
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: to the amount of world titles.

1028
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: You just want one person, even if you think they're

1029
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: well intentioned, having control like that. I don't know if

1030
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: that's a good idea.

1031
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at where we're at with the

1032
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: UFC in fight er pay and all that.

1033
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: I mean, both of them have positives and trade off.

1034
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the ideal system. But I

1035
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: do have to ask you, bec because we're gonna move

1036
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: on here in a bit, can we talk for just

1037
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: a second about this pound for pound raise. Yes, so

1038
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: let me ask you. Here is what I've got, tell

1039
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: me what I'm missing, Tell me if you're in alignment.

1040
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: First of all, as I mentioned before, between I should

1041
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: say among Katie Taylor, Terrence Crawford, NOI in a way,

1042
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: and Alexander Usik, we have a ten months wretch where

1043
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: all time grades are fucking shit up on it and

1044
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: they're taking huge fights to risks that we are just

1045
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: living through an insane era. We got to sort them

1046
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: here a little bit. So here's how I'm gonna rank it.

1047
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: This is not mean necessarily saying peak ability. It's part ability,

1048
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: part what you accomplished, and partly how recent.

1049
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: And also the mythical matchup. How would you do against

1050
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: each other? And if things were even.

1051
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: For me, I don't look at that as I mean.

1052
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: That's the decider when it's close, fair.

1053
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Enough and there's no rules, everyone's got their own. That's

1054
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: not the way it would go for me. But I

1055
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: like Crawford at three because in a way has been

1056
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: more active recently. Yeah, I'm gonna put them at two.

1057
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: And because of the unreal nature of everything he's done,

1058
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: plus obviously recency to an extent, I think I've got

1059
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 2: hell yeah.

1060
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Do you have to realize how hard it is for

1061
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: heavyweights in general to get ranked in the top ten

1062
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: pund for pound. They normally need to be long standing dominant.

1063
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: But also when we talk about the mythical match making,

1064
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: the idea of okay, that bandam weight's never gonna fight

1065
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: that heavyway, So what if they were in the same

1066
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: mythical division having the same advantages and disadvantage that they

1067
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: have in their own division. Bringing that together. It's so

1068
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: rare when you get a heavyweight high up there entering

1069
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: this fight. We had two of them in the top

1070
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: ten with Usik and Fury, and look, you know what's

1071
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: crazy is heading into this fight on this show? I said,

1072
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: you know what, guys, as much as we've had fun

1073
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: debating between Crawford in a way and also Canelo, I

1074
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: think deserves to be in the conversation, although he's probably

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00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: not going to get ahead of either one on anyone

1076
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: it's list. I think he's good enough to be in

1077
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: that conversation based on what he's accomplished in his recent form.

1078
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: But I said, the winner of Fury Usick could actually

1079
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: supplant all of them and be number one. And Luke

1080
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: I got hit with so many messages saying, ah, come on,

1081
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: didn't you see Crawford Versuspense, don't you know how great

1082
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Crawford is? Or hey, come on, have you not watched

1083
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: what in Away's done lately yet? What did I tweet?

1084
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Immediately after USA got the victory, I said, man, this

1085
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: is going to shake things up. We really need to

1086
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: now consider Usik in the number one conversation along with

1087
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: Bud Canelo and in in a way, and I was

1088
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: happy to see a deluge of tweets where Peoplreaty saying

1089
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: he's already in that conversation and this win should leave

1090
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: no doubt and the old the biggest reason. A lot

1091
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: of people said, so I'm taking this opinion because it

1092
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I'm sharing it with you.

1093
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: The consensus of the people after the fact. So there

1094
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: is recency bias was this. Some people are saying, well,

1095
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: who cares? Why even have this debate? He's the heavyweight champion.

1096
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be a top of pund for pounm.

1097
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: This is true, he's number one in the whole sport.

1098
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: He is. But you what a guy forty pounds heavier

1099
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: than him, right, six inches taller, with a seven inch

1100
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: reach and nearly knocked him out coming off of an

1101
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: undisputed run at Cruiserway. What else do you need from

1102
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: a literal pound for pound the definition of it standpoint,

1103
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: The answer is you don't need anything more. Yes, Luke,

1104
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: He's the best fighter in the world in this great sport.

1105
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: At this moment, Usik is number one with a bullet

1106
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: And if you are saying, OKAYBC, great speech, but what

1107
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: about Crawford, what about new Way? Let's hear from Bud.

1108
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: Let's see what Bud tweeted out in response to this.

1109
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: Man, y'all better put some respect on usick man. He's

1110
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: definitely a candidate for number one pound of pound fighter

1111
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: in the world. I'm no hater. He beat the man

1112
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: that beat the man in a bigger division. Giving what's

1113
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: giving what he's already done. Salute brother, shouts to Terrence Crawford,

1114
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: a real one.

1115
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: Because look, Usik wins this argument in my mind, if

1116
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: you're just going accomplishments, if you're just going quality of

1117
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: resume and huidb, if you're just going current form, if

1118
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: you're just going methical matchmaking. I mean, Luke, that's the thing.

1119
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: It's rare that you get a heavyweight with this much

1120
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: skill where even if you were like, okay, what if

1121
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Bud versus Usik could happen at some mythical weight class

1122
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: where you know, where they had the same qualities. I

1123
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 1: don't think you kind of Usik necessarily in those conversations either. Okay,

1124
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: they are watching greatness personified.

1125
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: Also just want to point out something here, since he

1126
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: won the WBO cruiserweight title. He did that in Gadan's, Poland.

1127
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: Then he fought in Inglewood, California, then or outside d

1128
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: c oxen Hill, Maryland. Then he fought in Berlin, Germany,

1129
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: then Riga, Latvia, then Moscow.

1130
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: The unbeaten Bradus in his backyard in Latvia.

1131
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: Then he beat Gasiev in Russia, in his backyard. Then

1132
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 2: he beat Tony Bellue in Manchester. Then he beat Chas

1133
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Witherspoon in Chicago. Then he beat Derek Gizora in London.

1134
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: Then he beat Anthony Joshua in London, did it again

1135
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia, then he beat Dubois in Poland, and

1136
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: then he beat Tyson Fury in Riod. Not one of

1137
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: those was a fucking home game, forget, and he took

1138
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: home the prom queen every fucking time.

1139
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: Forget animal or Hawk. This is the real road Royer.

1140
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: This is the guy. This is the guy right here.

1141
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: Okay, dude. It's incredible up a weight class, all time

1142
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: great cruiserweight class, and he did all of it on

1143
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: the fucking road.

1144
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: But every time he could.

1145
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 2: Have gotten screwed by a judge BC. Every time someone

1146
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: could have been like, no, not this round, not that round.

1147
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 2: He still found a way to get it done.

1148
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's close out this conversation with this gun

1149
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: to your head thirty seven years old? How many more

1150
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: fights do you think who's sick will take and who

1151
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: do you need to see him again?

1152
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: Now?

1153
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Like he may lose the Fury fight in the match,

1154
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: and Fury may go on to fight Joshua for all

1155
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: the belts again and be the biggest fight we've ever seen.

1156
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: It may happen, but right now, is there anyone that

1157
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: you feel like Usik should fight on the way out

1158
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: because he has an opportunity here, Because part of our

1159
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: bullet points was what do you do with this greatness?

1160
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Because he's certainly not like top ten heavyweight right he's

1161
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: only got like five heavyweight fights, But we're talking about

1162
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: the total greatness, the gold medal, the two division undisputed

1163
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: is that if he does this with an unbeaten record,

1164
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: if Usik defeats Fury in the rematch and maybe takes

1165
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: one more fight and retires undefeated, you're gonna have a

1166
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: problem trying to figure where he goes in history. So

1167
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: whether any is there anyone left you'd love to see

1168
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: him against, need to see him against or could he

1169
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: walk away in your eyes post fury?

1170
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: He could walk away right now. I hope that they

1171
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: would do it one more time. He gets a gigantic

1172
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 2: payday and then I hope that's it. There is absolutely

1173
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: nothing left for him to prove it.

1174
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: But Fang Bang Zang wants to bang him big Bang.

1175
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Jang wants to have sex with that man. They're falling

1176
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: in love. But the point I'm trying to.

1177
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: Make is that a Jim Lampley reference. Can you explain

1178
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: that to the fin Jim Lampley.

1179
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: We did an interview Jim Lampley and he was saying,

1180
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, these two guys had a slugfest.

1181
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: He goes and you know what that means, or like

1182
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: what he's like, I mean, he's started crying and he goes,

1183
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: that means they're falling in love. And I'm like, like Jim,

1184
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: that that's not what that means at all. Okay, But

1185
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: the one I wanted to make was he's done every

1186
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, he has succeeded at every possible level

1187
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: that there is, including the very very highest hilarious. The

1188
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: only thing left b seen. I mean, it's sincerely is

1189
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: to reaffirm this win and get a gigantic paycheck. He's

1190
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: gotten some big ones, but this would be a really

1191
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: big one.

1192
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: So do we do we think? Who do you think

1193
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua was gonna fight?

1194
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: Is win winner of Dubois and Herkovic, So.

1195
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: You don't think he fights the winner of Wilder and Zang.

1196
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: This fall possible if things go sideways. It's a Deontay

1197
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: Wilder to me, and Zang to an extent too, But

1198
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder in particular still a wild card if he

1199
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: were to sleep big Bang Zang, which Jeng is a

1200
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: better boxer, I mean most guys in the headway division,

1201
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: but he is legitimately a very huge guy and a

1202
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: better boxer. But if Wilder were going to starch him,

1203
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: I think that changes the equation a little bit in

1204
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: a couple of different directions. But I still don't think

1205
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: it's a fight Usk needs in any capacity. He's already

1206
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: beaten Joshua.

1207
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: Twice and whild there already has big baby Jared Anderson

1208
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: for August third.

1209
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: Again, There's just it doesn't make a lot of sense.

1210
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: So I think the Fury rematch and then he calls

1211
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: it a day, and God bless him, he has done enough.

1212
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: Wow, from one set of legendary heavyweights to another set

1213
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: of legendary heavyweights. Let's go to topic number three.

1214
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: Here, Mike might want these two to bang each other.

1215
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul is going to go down

1216
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: July twentieth, Arlington, Texas Jerry World on Netflix, and boy,

1217
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: does this have potential to be something just seriously like

1218
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: next level, the biggest thing maybe we've seen in some time.

1219
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, has potential to be a unique sporting event.

1220
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: They did have a coast to coast two city press

1221
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: tour to kick it off. Arieljwani hosted the first, Brian

1222
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Custer hosted the second. Luke straight up here, what did

1223
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: this two city press tour and the announcement by the

1224
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: way of a pretty damn loaded main card, what did

1225
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: that do to teach us, like, really, how big this

1226
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: fight truly can be.

1227
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by a single thing that we've seen

1228
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: other than Mike Tyson admitting he got interaction watching a

1229
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: sixteen year old Jake Paul dance.

1230
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to the videotape on that long I don't

1231
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: sit up.

1232
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 8: You wanted to kiss me?

1233
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Indeed, he said he wanted to kiss you.

1234
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 8: That's why ironic that he said that, because I saw

1235
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 8: a picture of him dancing at sixteen doing a little

1236
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 8: dancing YouTube, and for some reason I had to reject

1237
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 8: an erection.

1238
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike, like, you should have kicked that one of

1239
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: the drafts folder my guy water Weed Dune.

1240
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here?

1241
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 9: What?

1242
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 10: Mike?

1243
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: What the hell he's talking about? What's happening here?

1244
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, except for wanting to bang a sixteen year

1245
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: old Jake Paul, which by itself is just disturbing on

1246
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: so many levels. Here's what it got to me. I

1247
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: have had so many irate combat sports fans ask me

1248
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: about this fight, and as we're doing it because of

1249
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: the press tour. Let me just be very clear to

1250
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: all of you. This fight is not for you and me.

1251
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: We are not the audience they know we're going to

1252
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: come along. This is a cultural event for donks who

1253
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 2: lost all their money in crypto Wow.

1254
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Oh come on, No, it's actually for way more than that.

1255
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: And the father and son element, where there's gonna be

1256
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: father's cheering for tyson and Sons chearing for Jacobs.

1257
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: There might be some of that. I don't think it's

1258
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: gonna be a ton of it.

1259
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: Like, well, your dad watch, will it go that far?

1260
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: Will it reach your father?

1261
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: It's actually a good question.

1262
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't because my mom's already texting me about Yes,

1263
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: she's already.

1264
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: I've had so many of my friends who don't watch

1265
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: fights except when like humongous fights happen, and they are

1266
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: texting me about this. But this is the point I'm

1267
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: trying to make. Netflix is not I hope that they

1268
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: use this to get into the real boxing business. They

1269
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: may or may not. I simply do not know. But

1270
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: what I am watching here is Netflix putting together a

1271
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: cultural event. That is what they are doing. What can

1272
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: we do? What vehicle can we use to get maximum

1273
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: eyeballs for live programming that we know people will watch

1274
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: when it happens? Sports we know is very very good

1275
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: to be relatively speaking, DVR proof. Let's get two huge names,

1276
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson and Jake Paul, different generations, a whole different thing.

1277
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Let's have them fight in eight around two minute contests

1278
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: with fourteen ounce gloves in the fucking state of Texas.

1279
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Because who we're trying to attract with this is the

1280
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: widest possible net of garbage pail kids that exist on that.

1281
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: I think it goes beyond garbage peel kids.

1282
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: I think it's I You're one hundred percent right, I'm

1283
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: being hostile for the point of being mean, But that's

1284
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: the point every combat sports fans like this is an abomination.

1285
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Dude, it's not for you.

1286
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, it's not being built for you and for me,

1287
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: and from the people watching typically like this, they don't

1288
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: care if you like it. They don't care.

1289
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I just want to say, if you're still doing the

1290
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: mainstream sports take of should this fight even be scheduled? Like,

1291
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: we're far past that. Okay, it is what it's going

1292
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: to be. The lure, to be very fair, is that dynamic,

1293
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: that dichotomy between is Mike pushing sixty gonna get hurt

1294
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: and regret this and are we going to regret this

1295
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: by proxy or is he going to knock out Jake

1296
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: and have the ultimate for I'm sorry forman versus Michael

1297
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Moore moment of score one for the old guy. But Luke,

1298
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: I have to give MVP, which is Jake Paul's promotional team,

1299
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: to Kisabaderian and Netflix props for this main card. Now,

1300
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: this is not a pay per view start. I hesitate

1301
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: to say pay per view main card, but you get

1302
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: Tyson versus Jake, which is the ultimate side of the

1303
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: road accident that you can't look away from. In every

1304
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: possible category, You're getting Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano two

1305
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: in the rematch of the biggest and arguably most exciting

1306
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: women's match in the history of the sport, that could

1307
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: headline any cart could headline its own pay per view

1308
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: in the garden, and it's going to be the Cole

1309
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: main event. So think of all the first time boxing fans,

1310
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: former boxing fans that you're bringing into this. You want

1311
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: to put your best foot forward. They're giving you the

1312
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: rematch of the greatest women's fight. They're giving you a

1313
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: legitimately weird gas station fight with Darren Tel versus Jobs.

1314
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: Junior, terrible fight.

1315
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: It's not yeah, but it's also not. It's also kind

1316
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: of like it fits that category well. And then you're

1317
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: getting legitimate prospect versus prostect with H two O Ashton

1318
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: silv against fellow and beaten Forma. Let me say I'm

1319
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: setting the table here. So I want to ask you

1320
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: we're actually doing something where we're not just throwing out

1321
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: slop and saying this is what boxing is. We're actually

1322
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: giving you real fights around that that mixed with the

1323
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: commercial element mixed with this could break the record for

1324
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: the amount of people that have watched a single sporting

1325
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: It could be Super Bowl numbers. It could be stupid.

1326
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Is this going to be a slam dunk? No matter

1327
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: what happens for the sport of boxing.

1328
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: At that part, I don't know. Here's what I will say.

1329
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: If it ends up being a disaster, I don't think

1330
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: it's going to be bad for the sport of boxing

1331
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: at all. Because this fight is when is this fight?

1332
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: July one, twenty twenty, Dude August third, arguably arguably the

1333
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: best pound for pound boxer in the world, and Terrence

1334
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: Crawford will be back at action, a loaded paper in

1335
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: a loaded goddamn pay per view up another weight class,

1336
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: trying to go for get another series of belts, so

1337
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: very very quickly behind that, real boxing will take its place. Also,

1338
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: what we should say be see is state it very clearly.

1339
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: This is going to be the co main event, a

1340
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: rematch between Amanda Serrano and Katie Taylor is going to

1341
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: be the most watched women's boxing fight of all time

1342
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: and it won't even be close. That's how many people

1343
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: are going to have access to this. There will There

1344
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: has never been a women's fight that has gotten this

1345
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: kind of potential audience without any hesitation whatsoever. I can

1346
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: say that, So that is great. You say that they're

1347
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: not throwing slop. Dude tail versus job is a slop, okay.

1348
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: But they're giving you the buffet, They're giving you your

1349
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: healthy vegetables, and then they got.

1350
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: It's not an entire card to fight circus. They're giving

1351
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: you real ones and then they're giving you some ridiculous

1352
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: ones along the way. But guys, I was in Houston

1353
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: when Dotta five thousand had a coronary in the Bellison

1354
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: against Kimbo, and I'm like, guys, we've already had that.

1355
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: How much worse could this actually be then someone having

1356
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: to get resuscitated whose name was Dona five thousand? This

1357
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: can't be as bad.

1358
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: And also let me say something if I'm may, can

1359
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: we put the camera on Luke God.

1360
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna say. You're asking me, who are

1361
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: you picking gun? To your head right now. You can

1362
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: change your mind between now and July.

1363
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a bit. I don't know. I don't

1364
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win this plight. I don't know.

1365
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: I am so glad you said that because everyone being like, oh,

1366
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: Tyson's gonna get marched to his death. Listen, gun to

1367
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: my head. I am picking Jake Paul. In general, he

1368
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: has made very smart calculations about what kind of threat

1369
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: to face as he has moved his career. Along with

1370
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: the one issue he got wrong in Tommy Fury. Tommy

1371
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: got the better end of that deal in the end,

1372
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: fair enough, But in general he makes very good calculations,

1373
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: and I think he and his team are making obviously

1374
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: a calculation that a nearly sixty year old Mike Tyson

1375
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: is going to be relatively beatable. I would agree. However,

1376
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: the point I have tried to make to everybody is

1377
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: by professional standards, and don't give me the last two guys.

1378
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: He thought the last guy he fought was barely ambulatory.

1379
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean, just get the fuck out of here with this.

1380
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: People who don't watch boxing, this guy is tenda. No,

1381
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: he's a real boxer. Please shut the fuck up. Okay,

1382
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: number one, number two. Jake Paul is a very good

1383
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: boxer by celebrity standards, but by boxing standards, he's more

1384
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: to be thought of as a celebrity. And what I

1385
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: mean by that is, if this guy were what is

1386
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's record, this boy ten and O or ten

1387
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: and one or whatever it is, if you got someone

1388
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: who's like a real prospect, who is actually coming up

1389
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: the normal way, I would actually have much more concern

1390
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: about for Mike's safety. Yes, but that's actually not what

1391
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: you have. And yes, Jake, given credit, does have big power. Again,

1392
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: gun to my head, I'm picking him. But he is

1393
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: not so good that you can just treat it like

1394
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: it's a foregone conclusion.

1395
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: That's why it's gonna sell.

1396
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly why it's gonna sell. But I just want

1397
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: to be clear. Everyone be like, oh, Mike's gonna get

1398
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: led to his death. He might, he fucking might.

1399
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say Jake might hold for a

1400
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: minute and a half of each round and.

1401
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: Land a big bomb and whatever. But my Jake is

1402
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: not so good that you can be like, oh, well

1403
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: he's just gonna run over him. No no, no, no, no,

1404
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: no no no.

1405
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: That is not what you have.

1406
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: And that's also me not saying you even have to watch,

1407
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: but the handwringing when we live in a post DOTTA

1408
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: five thousand, get the fucking paddles world in the same state.

1409
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: I just don't get that that part. I don't get

1410
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: all right.

1411
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: There's been some debate, and I think it's worthy of

1412
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: a debate of whether these two in the two city

1413
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: stops that they've had and this is their opportunity to

1414
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: come close up to the world, tell the world what

1415
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: this fight's going to be about. Have they been too friendly?

1416
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Has Mike been too you know, after reportedly giving up

1417
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: weed and getting in great shape, Has he's been too reserved.

1418
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a clip from the second stop. This

1419
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: is about the juiciest the trash talk got. Let's hear

1420
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: from this.

1421
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if he's been at prime.

1422
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: He's fat.

1423
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 8: He should have been lean and mean. He's fat and funky.

1424
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 8: I saw him with his shirt enough over that he's fat.

1425
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 8: Did you start training already?

1426
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: Buster Douglas was fat?

1427
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: Am I right? I know?

1428
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 8: But you know, Buster Douglas, I'm gonna win, Nigga. He

1429
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 8: can't even knock out Nick diet Nick didn't forty pounds.

1430
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 8: How's you gonna knock me out? What the other guy?

1431
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 8: Anderson Sylvia didn't They knocked the little guy. Now he's

1432
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 8: gonna knock me out? Who did he knock out? Who

1433
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 8: did he knock out? The little children? He didn't knock out?

1434
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 8: Never knocked out a real man. Come on, I can't

1435
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 8: even get mad at this guy because everybody know this

1436
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 8: guy talking out of the dad and stealing money. I'm

1437
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 8: up here, you're stealing money fighting him? Well, Jeff, come

1438
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 8: to the fighting you see Listen, listen, I started jacof

1439
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 8: and I'm gonna finish him.

1440
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that line.

1441
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: It's a correct j just killing poor Tyron Woodley.

1442
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: Yes, also killing poor Buster Douglas was Joe Buster Douglas

1443
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: fat for when he lost the title of do Vander Holyfield? Yes, yes,

1444
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: not fat on the best night of his life when

1445
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: he walked down Mike Tyson.

1446
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: The whole documentary on thirty for thirty shows that it

1447
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: was that fight he had an incredible shape for.

1448
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: So you did see a little bit of trash talk

1449
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: talking about the body. Let's get a face to face

1450
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: of these two shirtlests. They did some promos for a

1451
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: commercial that is heavyweight Jake Paul, he is block heavy Luke.

1452
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on both of their bodies here?

1453
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, understandably, gravity's kind of killing poor Mike,

1454
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: but I agree with Mike. Jake looks a little chunky

1455
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: to me.

1456
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: No, I agree. He's trying to come in and he

1457
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: said this is what he kind of walks around.

1458
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, he's on steroids, and I'm like, well,

1459
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, who the hell knows what he's on.

1460
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: But well, I hope they're both on that.

1461
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't he doesn't look like super shredded to me.

1462
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Interesting. We have one more clip and this is from

1463
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: the first day in New York, and this is what

1464
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: got me mad. I wanted to see the face off,

1465
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: like sell me the violence, sell me the threat, and

1466
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: they kind of sold me the joyful fun nature of this.

1467
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: Like remember when Connor and Floyd got criticized at the

1468
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: press conference afterwards for hugging in almost in when they're

1469
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: in their suits. When Connor fu Floyd after post press conference,

1470
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: they hugged each other and basically had this like, hey,

1471
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: we just stole all this money from the world, laugh

1472
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: cele but we were like, okay, they delivered. Are you

1473
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: okay with this? Are you okay with like, hey, buddy.

1474
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: Or dude, are you really are you really going to

1475
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 2: be like.

1476
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: These guys aren't properly doing press conference. My old school

1477
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: boxing friends who have been watching Tyson as long as

1478
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: I have, are like, oh, he's baiting him, He's planting

1479
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: a seed that he's jolly old Grandpa George Foreman. There

1480
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: are you getting those fields from this?

1481
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: I certainly hope.

1482
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, no, he wants to bang young jan can you?

1483
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean listening, We're going to be fucking in fighting.

1484
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: It's the same.

1485
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: But what I was going to say was, can you

1486
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: imagine the goodwill Mike would earn if he just starches

1487
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: this guy God and just like one punch Kaoshi a

1488
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: long island, Luke. I mean, I don't want to ask

1489
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: about your genitalia, but fair to say it would be

1490
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 2: in a different position if Mike completely flat lines Jake, Paul,

1491
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: no one.

1492
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you a final question on this,

1493
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: all right. A couple of weeks ago, the Netflix subscription

1494
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: total was two hundred and twenty six million. That has

1495
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: been since updated to four hundred million. Is it insane.

1496
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: This is the same conversation. By the way, we had

1497
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: a head of Mayweather versus McGregor, this whole idea of like, Okay,

1498
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: at that time, the paper view record was two point

1499
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: four million. We're like, could it do double? Could it

1500
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: do triple?

1501
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: Like?

1502
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: Is there a ceiling? Is there a limit? Is there

1503
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: a limit? Not in pay per view buys because it's

1504
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: not pay per view? What is the ceiling for one

1505
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: night subscription total? If they're at four hundred million right

1506
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: now and they're lapping the competition, I don't know how

1507
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: many households are tuning into this.

1508
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: So my question is this, what did the UH and

1509
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: Long Island look? If you know the answer, if anybody

1510
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: knows the answer, what did the Tom Brady roast do

1511
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: in termbs of viewership on Netflix? Do we know the

1512
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: answer to that?

1513
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: We might don't.

1514
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: So here's what I'm gonna say. It's going to be

1515
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 2: two or three x that I think.

1516
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: Like, so potentially Super Bowl NBA playoff.

1517
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: Tom Brady has something of an international appeal, but he's

1518
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: not internationally famous. Mike Tyson is internationally famous.

1519
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 5: So Paul tom Brady did two million on the actual

1520
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 5: live stream. I don't know about afterwards.

1521
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: Okay, it will do. It'll do five to six million

1522
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: on the live stream.

1523
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: What's the more important number the amount of people that

1524
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: tune in or the amount of people that are subscribed

1525
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 1: in terms of this being the biggest success, it can.

1526
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: Well, Netflix has a larger potential audience than any other streamer,

1527
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: including Amazon. I mean, their scale is unrivaled.

1528
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: So could there be one hundred million people watching the tracks?

1529
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: Many people? Do you know how many subscribers? ESPN plus

1530
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: has not four hundred million? Twenty four point eight so Netflix?

1531
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: What two point four so twenty four point eight so subscribers.

1532
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Twenty four point eight million subscribers?

1533
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so Netflix has more than ten times nearly twenty times. Okay?

1534
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: Could they could they double it to eight hundred million subscribers?

1535
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: Is there that many people?

1536
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 11: No?

1537
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They could not

1538
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: do that. That's absolutely okay one and a half.

1539
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: Could they get it up to like six hundred million?

1540
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: No, dude, that's you're talking about now, that's that these

1541
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: are you know, you're talking about trying to boil an ocean.

1542
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: That's not possible. I am trying the what I'm trying

1543
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: to make is in terms of the live audience and

1544
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: people who checked it out, and also you know, a

1545
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: video on demand, how long do they stay? Do they

1546
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: does the broadcast number go up over time? Any number

1547
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: of different metrics they could use, but I think this

1548
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: will be a listen. You can like this fact or

1549
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: or it's not a fact, but you can like this

1550
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: or you can hate this. My hunch is it's going

1551
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: to be a monster success, monster success.

1552
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: What a year, What a time to be alive as

1553
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: a boxing fan.

1554
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: All right, BC, let's talk about some MMA before our

1555
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: audience stabs us in the face when we leave the

1556
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: facilities here.

1557
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: With a knife dipped in carbonic acid.

1558
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 2: That is a potential.

1559
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: That's a potent or age your choice.

1560
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different ways we can go, So

1561
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk. I want to go what interests

1562
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: me first, and this whole potpourri here. There was some

1563
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: leaking of the DMS that UFC heavyweight champion John Jones

1564
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: has been said, I mean, can you get the difference

1565
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: between him and USIK? I mean, could not be he.

1566
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: Was gonna say heavyweight champion in title only at the moment.

1567
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, yeah, he was dming random fans from what

1568
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: I could tell random fans, like, should we.

1569
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: Be suspecting that this is doctored in this AI era.

1570
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: He didn't come out and deny it, but fair to

1571
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: note that this is we don't fully know. But nevertheless,

1572
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: and in it it sounds like him. And he's bragging

1573
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: about potentially making fifteen million to fight steep A riding

1574
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: off into the sunset. He uses that words.

1575
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: He tweeted out that the fight would be at MSG

1576
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: in November and then deleted it.

1577
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: Yep, also suggesting he's got two mansions in Albuquerque. The

1578
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: many people in high places are his friends. Yeah, said quote,

1579
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: how much you call an elite compared to you. I

1580
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: have multimillionaire friends, several billionaire friends. We see friends in

1581
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: the highest branches of the military. Even I don't have that. Meanwhile,

1582
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: you make three D designs, you have no followers, probably

1583
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: still trying to pay off your house. Willing to bet

1584
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: you live in an apartment. But yeah, let's make fun

1585
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: of me. I got a domestic violence charge about four

1586
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: years ago. Now maybe even five years ago is actually

1587
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: a little bit closer to that. That's not true. Meanwhile,

1588
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: I've made close to twenty million cents. Then my wife

1589
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: is still with me, fuck the shit out of me

1590
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: every night. That's great. My life is Gucci telling my

1591
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: buddy Jeff blah blah blah BC. Your reaction to John

1592
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: not fighting Tom Aspinall but definitely getting in the DMS

1593
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: of fans who want him to fight Tom.

1594
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: It's just such a lame standpoint to brag. If anything,

1595
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: he should be like almost lying publicly to try to

1596
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: protect that. No, I'm not ducking you know, like you

1597
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: would you do what they could be playing up the

1598
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: continuation of well Aspinall hasn't accomplished anything, which I think

1599
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: I think he's still doing. He's still putting tweets out

1600
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: there discounting the accomplishments of Blades or Aspinall compared to him.

1601
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: He should be doing the opposite in the DMS. You

1602
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: should be playing up Stepe, playing up what a legendary

1603
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: fight this is. And you know I defended Steve a

1604
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: versus John last November for being the type of fight

1605
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: that you do sort of suspend everything else and get

1606
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: these two legends in there not a year later. I mean,

1607
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: the balls on the UFC to roll this out, this

1608
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: fight out exactly one full year later with the same

1609
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: stakes as ridiculous. But no, this is not how a

1610
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: legendary champion should act. You should be defending your resume,

1611
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: not basically dunking on them by being like, what are

1612
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? Because I'm gonna win this

1613
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: fight against this old guy, walk off into the sunset,

1614
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: cash my millions. I might even get on top of

1615
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: my wife with brock Lessner's bud light after that, you

1616
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, no, it just it comes

1617
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: across as so hollow, and I know, like it's a

1618
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: great time to be bragging about boxing compared to MMA,

1619
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, true, at the moment, where's the MMA fight?

1620
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: At the moment that is signed that we're like, oh

1621
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: my god, I can't wait for it, And did you

1622
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: see that press tour that moment, Oh my god, it's happening.

1623
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we're doing that every week in boxing

1624
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: right now. But in MMA, we are not making the

1625
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: fights we should be making that are really easy to

1626
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: actually make. It really wouldn't be that hard for UFC

1627
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: to call up Stepe and say one of the two

1628
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: things like sorry stevee John got hurt and we waited

1629
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: too long. This fight's in the longer viable. He's gonna

1630
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: fight Aspinall or like we said, while John's wait and injured,

1631
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Hey Stepe, how about you fight Aspinall instead in a

1632
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: UK pay per view in the main event, winner gets John. No,

1633
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do any of that. We're now gonna

1634
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: allow John to completely bastardize the situation even more. I

1635
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 1: don't never want it to be in a space because

1636
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: I always knew, we always knew that John Jones was

1637
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: really the greatest of all time. So we've all since

1638
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: like twenty twelve been saying eventually he's gonna move up toavyweight,

1639
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna beat everybody, He's gonna be the two division champions,

1640
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna walk off the goat argument won't even be an argument.

1641
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: I want to be at that spot because he is

1642
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: the best fighter I've ever seen, without question. Seriously, in

1643
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: the in this upper room table which includes all of

1644
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: these legends, Fador Silva, gsb Habib, whoever you want to

1645
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: put in there, like nobody is John Jones. He's sort

1646
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: of like actively just dunking on playing into the stereotypes

1647
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: of why this has really become a bastardized heavyweight rain

1648
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: and it's not his fault he got injured. It's not

1649
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: his fault. Cyril Gun shit the bed against him so quickly.

1650
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: But Luke, all that does conspire together when he's not

1651
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: fighting in Ghanu, regardless of what blame who you're pointing

1652
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: it at. And now he's not fighting the other best

1653
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: heavyweight at the moment, and we have to see an

1654
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: interim champion actually defend his title, which is rare in

1655
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 1: UFC history. And now John is basically just saying outright

1656
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: to everybody, I want to make a shit ton of money.

1657
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat this old guy who hasn't fought in

1658
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: three thousand days, and then I'm out of here. I mean,

1659
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: maybe you can say in twenty years, we won't be

1660
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: having this conversation. We we'll just be talking about the

1661
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: goat John Jones, the two division champion. But I hate

1662
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: to see Luke, especially with these young, vibrant names the

1663
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: division having a little bit of life. I hate to

1664
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: see John bastardizing his own, his own unique legacy that

1665
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: no one else can match by doing it this way,

1666
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: by it you know, And maybe maybe he didn't even

1667
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: say those things to the fans. But I think even

1668
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: whether he did or whether he not, this is what

1669
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: the promotion's telling you, that what they value, like the demotocracy,

1670
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. What the fan interest is kind of really

1671
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: saying doesn't matter. It's just that they think they can

1672
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: charge nine hundred per cent in the garden for John

1673
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: versus Stepe a year later. So they're going to do it,

1674
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: and that's the bottom line. But John not helping himself

1675
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: at all.

1676
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think mocking ordinary middle class people

1677
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: for having for a living middle class lives probably not

1678
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: going to win you any popularity contests. Also, more to

1679
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: the point, he had that tweet that was public, it

1680
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: might still be up where he had said, hey me,

1681
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: fourteen titles, step A six the equals twenty. Curtis plus

1682
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Tom equals zero. In course he said is that I

1683
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: wasn't going to count the interim title, which is the

1684
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 2: one I think he got against osp UFC one ninety.

1685
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: I forget anyway.

1686
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: Claims he was off the gear for that because of USADA.

1687
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: He does claim that. But but what I wanted to

1688
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: say was, it's like, dude, what like how what has

1689
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: to be wrong with you to not give a crack

1690
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: to people who are deserving of one and then mock

1691
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: them for not having a title, Like that's the deranged

1692
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: shit I've ever heard of.

1693
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: My sad equal one. I'm saying, no, sorry, we can't

1694
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: hire you for this job. We needed somebody with experience,

1695
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, how do I get experience?

1696
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? And and and you're the only one who can

1697
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 2: give them that. And also you're the one who is

1698
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: supposed to be the one giving them that, but then

1699
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: mock them. It's like, dude, you know, MMA is when

1700
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: the UFC is cooking. UFC three hundred was cooking. When

1701
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: they're cooking, it's it's very, very tough to beat. But

1702
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can be an MMA fan

1703
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: and look around and see stuff like this and be like, yeah,

1704
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: the sport's on fire right now.

1705
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 1: Connor was stripped in less days. Connor was a champion

1706
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: not fighting in less days and was stripped than John

1707
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: is right now.

1708
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. All right, let me move on to this

1709
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: if I may be see. Khalil Rowntree unfortunately has withdrawn

1710
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: from UFC three oh three's co main event versus Jamal

1711
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 2: Hill due to what he says, is the accidental ingestion

1712
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: of a banned substance that dha. You can see his

1713
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: message up here. I'm going to deliver this news to

1714
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: you all, but I will not be fighting at UFC

1715
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: three h three due to consuming a substance. Says he

1716
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: doesn't do it, didn't do it intentionally. He's trying to

1717
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: figure it out. I was using a personalized tailored supplement

1718
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: service from a company they trusts by the way, he said,

1719
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: he contacted Jeff Novitski and of course the entire antidoping

1720
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: compliance officers to figure it out. He's provided the information

1721
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: to show that this was not a matter of cheating.

1722
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: He's hoping to be cleared. My sincerious apologies to you

1723
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: all and to Jamal for this unfortunate series of events.

1724
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: This is a huge loss and an even bigger lesson BC.

1725
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 2: Two questions. One is there a logical replacement opponent that

1726
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: you can think of? One? Two? How bad is this

1727
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: for Khalil Rowntree.

1728
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: Let's start out on the bad. I mean it's pretty bad, Luke.

1729
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean he feels like he's justifying it and explaining

1730
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: it and it's not you know, it'd be tough to

1731
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: do the whole drop the hammer on him. He screwed up.

1732
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen Usada get it wrong, right, poor

1733
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: trum lawl or poor a few different fighters who were

1734
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: derailed from that. I like, whenever someone is being fully honest,

1735
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: I hope he's being fully honest in this case. You know,

1736
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: there's a whole other Ryan Garcia situation, Luke, that we're

1737
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: debating a lot left and right, But I think it's

1738
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: a bigger, bigger than the name tarnishing in the moment

1739
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: is this was this fight was his moment. He's getting

1740
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: a Jamal Hill, a former champion who's coming off major injury,

1741
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: rushing it back, getting sent to hell by the champion

1742
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: in a big fight, and then they were giving him

1743
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: the three to three co Maine slot under Connor McGregor's comeback.

1744
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: So it was huge and knowing everything Khalil Rowntree has

1745
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: been through, if this actually was an accidental ingestion, then

1746
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: it's really bad luck at the wrong time, and I

1747
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: hate to see that for him, a guy that I

1748
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: respect a lot, But Luke, the idea of who fills

1749
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: that hole I've been down on saying as much as

1750
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: I love Jamal Hill versus Roundtree as an Action fight,

1751
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: even with the watering down of Connor cards, which is

1752
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: historically what UFC does because of how much it costs

1753
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: to get him in there. I didn't love this. I

1754
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: think you can upgrade this a few different ways. I

1755
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: saw the internet this morning aggressively push one name above all, though,

1756
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: and it did change my argument. Rather than pulling off

1757
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: one of these other All Action former champions or anyone

1758
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: else in the top rankings, how about a rising Carlos Alberg.

1759
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: I was asked about that yesterday on sub Mission and Radio.

1760
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: So here's how I feel about that. Can I tell

1761
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: you please? I think that's an exciting choice, and I

1762
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: definitely feel like you could do it if you wanted to. However,

1763
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: Olberg has not really worked his way through the division

1764
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 2: in a proper sense to get fully vetted, so I

1765
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: think he could win that. He's certainly gotten better. He's

1766
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: got a dynamic style. I'm not I like that fight,

1767
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: but if I were in Alberg's corner or his team,

1768
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: I'd be a little bit concerned about what a win

1769
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: could get you here. Not because you wouldn't want a

1770
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: title shot, you would, but what happens if you lose

1771
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: it because you're not ready, What does it do? How

1772
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: much damage could you take in the process. They might

1773
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: end up saying, hey, let's just take it because you

1774
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: never get another title shot. But there are The point

1775
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is there are obvious trade offs

1776
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: if you take a title shot before you're ready. Yes,

1777
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: and I've seen it happen. If I get fucked up

1778
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: in those fights sometimes it could be real bad. So

1779
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: fine fight, but I don't know if it really solves

1780
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: the problem. Also, I wanted to say this, well then

1781
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: who then? I don't know there's an obvious name. I

1782
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I think you could do that one.

1783
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: He scrapped the fight because I didn't love the fight

1784
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: to begin with. I'm here to tell you, even with

1785
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: that established foundation that when Connor fights, we don't load

1786
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: the card, and this card kind of stinks for a

1787
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: pay per view top to bottom. You need another fight.

1788
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: I know there were rumors about Ian Gary versus Colby

1789
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: Coventon that the car that got shot down. Yeah, dude,

1790
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 1: you need another fight. So if it's not going to

1791
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: be Jamal Hill, I need you to find me another fight.

1792
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so you got Mregor Chandler at the top obviously.

1793
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: Then it's Swanson Feeley, which is a fun fight like that.

1794
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: It's a fine in between for you.

1795
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 2: Michelle Waterson Gomez versus Gillian Robertson, I have not a

1796
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: good fight Robert that main card. That's main card. That's

1797
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: the third fight from the top. I think roberts is

1798
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: gonna run over. Then you have Carlos Hernandez versus Race Aruya,

1799
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna shoot on that one. Race Eruia is a

1800
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: top prospect out of Japan. I like that one, okay.

1801
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: Joe Pifer is back against Mark Andre Barrio. I like

1802
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: Maria Bueno Silver versus Macy Jason Chason. How the fuck

1803
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: is that in my brain? So poorly? Rikue Simona's back

1804
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: against Visnissius ola Vera.

1805
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean these are fine.

1806
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: Peyton Talbot is back, Andrea Alovski is back.

1807
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: Charlis okay, but that doesn't get me excited.

1808
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: The name that's literally, I'm not even joking. It's Connor

1809
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: versus Chandler, and then Swanson Feeley, and then the rest

1810
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: is ufc Apex lick my balls seventy five.

1811
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: Okay. Then what about some rumors to the idea. If

1812
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: we can't get Covington versus Gary, and I think people

1813
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: are saying, did Covington turn it down? There's something definitely

1814
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: turned it down. What about Gary versus MVP? Do you

1815
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: throw something like that together? Will they need to? But

1816
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: if you don't, what's the coal Maane Jamal Hill against

1817
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: Next Light? Have you Waitten line?

1818
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: I definitely believe that if there is not inappropriate? Okay,

1819
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: so you could do Olberg versus Hill. I don't love

1820
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 2: that fight for Olberg. I think he can win it,

1821
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: but again I think he'd be advancing a little too quickly.

1822
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: And what do you uncle, Lav Blahovich.

1823
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could do that, but I

1824
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: agree if they can't get that one, they need to

1825
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: kind of hail Mary another one in here quickly. And

1826
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: I like your idea MVP versus He says he's accepted

1827
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: a fight against Ian Gary, as you indicated. I'd be

1828
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: okay with that. I'd be really okay with that. Plus

1829
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: the two Irish guys on the card. You know, you

1830
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: get the Irish invasion a little bit. Yeah, I'm alright

1831
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: with that. Well, actually, you know they ticket prices are

1832
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: too high for that now. But you used to be

1833
01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: able to get that.

1834
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: I just I don't take ultimate pleasure in boxing being

1835
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: awesome when we tend to every week. But look, we

1836
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: tend to complain about the UFC every week. Can UFC

1837
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: come back? They've got the biggest, they got all the names,

1838
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: just match them again.

1839
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: This is also by the way we talk about like

1840
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: what Turkey can do in boxing kind of tells you

1841
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: how limited he is. An mma that there's no talk

1842
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: of Enganu versus John Jones or right right, like he

1843
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: can't bridge that gap.

1844
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: He can move mountains, but there's a mountain named Dana White.

1845
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to move them.

1846
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: There's there's a limit. So that's the first thing I'd say.

1847
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: The second thing I'd say is like, dude, it's on

1848
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: the one hand, does the UFC get a disproportionate amount

1849
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 2: of often cases unfair criticism because of the way that

1850
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: they basically control the industry. You might say, well, isn't

1851
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: that fair? But no, like, there's a lot of times

1852
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: there's expectations put on them that even they can't meet.

1853
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: At the same time, if you've got that much talent

1854
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: on your roster and you're the ones deciding to have

1855
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: X number of events and you're having trouble filling the

1856
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: top of them, that's on you.

1857
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean literally could have taken fights off I don't

1858
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: want it's it's greedy, as say, after the fact, when

1859
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: UFC three hundred was so awesome, maybe you could have

1860
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: not been as greedy and loading that. Maybe take a

1861
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: couple off of those and put those as Fight Night

1862
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: main events in the subsequent weeks, so we don't have

1863
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: what we've had, Luke, which is fits that you have

1864
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: to actually ask yourself do I need I hate to

1865
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: be in a position where there are fight cards, and

1866
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Saturday's UFC Fight Night card was one of them where

1867
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, do I actually need to

1868
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: see this for my job and my fandom purposes? Like

1869
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: do I actually need to go out of my way

1870
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: to see that?

1871
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for this job, I would not have

1872
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: watched any of the fights on Saturday's UFC card. I

1873
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: did what end up watching them, but I would not have.

1874
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: Well, that's the perfect transition to topic number five, Luke,

1875
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: all right. Topic number five the MMA recap from over

1876
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: the weekend, which included a UFC Apex card fresh off

1877
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: of Saint Louis overachieving, the crowd going wild. We were

1878
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: back in the damn Apex with one hundred or so

1879
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: people who probably paid a few thousand to have a

1880
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: fun party thing going on. But Luke, we did get

1881
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: a featherweight fight which had some ranking considerations in there.

1882
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: As Laren Murphy continued a run that he's been on,

1883
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Are you okay?

1884
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry about that?

1885
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh like you got I don't know what happened there?

1886
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: Uh look there we go, Yeah, to keep making that noise.

1887
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1888
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: Look, Laron Murphy against the featherweight veteran here Edson Barbosa.

1889
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: We go the distance over five rounds in Laron Murphy's

1890
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: boxing was just too much in the end. What does

1891
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: this say about his standing as a contender moving forward

1892
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: in the featherweight division now unbeaten in the UFC unless.

1893
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Yeah, no, you're right, absolutely right. I mean

1894
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: this was the first real you could point a couple

1895
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: other ones he's had that had been good, but this

1896
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: was the first big one, big name opponent, and he dominated.

1897
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: In fact, if you look statistically, BC, I know that

1898
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: that Barbosa had something of a round four that he

1899
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: clawed something back, but then he lost round five again

1900
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: in my judgment, and if you actually look at the numbers,

1901
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: Laron Murphy landing two hundred and twenty significant strikes to

1902
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Barbosa's seventy nine, that is statistically the biggest differential he

1903
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: has ever suffered in any fight, and he's taken some

1904
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: fucking beating. Oh the HBIB fight was all by Kevin Lee.

1905
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 2: He got just that was the one that's the second

1906
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: closest in terms of the numeric total to do. Laron

1907
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: Murphy took it fucking to him here, So that's a

1908
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: great win for him. Standout performance. He looked ready in

1909
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: all phases. They had a great game plan. He executed,

1910
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: not perfect, but a lot went right for him. His

1911
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: jab was great, his movement was great. Timely takedown, timely takedowns.

1912
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: He got two in the fifth round when he really

1913
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: needed him. Had some decent control time, had some good

1914
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 2: ground and pound, he was checking some kicks, he was

1915
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: throwing some kicks of his own. The boxing and the

1916
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: pressure was the biggest part of what won him that fight.

1917
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: All the while eating the type of leg kicks that

1918
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: could paralyze him.

1919
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Man and then still kept coming it didn't seem like

1920
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: it really affected him over the course of that fight too,

1921
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: too badly. So this was a very very strong win

1922
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: for him, and I think it's a great movement for him.

1923
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where he is currently ranked, I think,

1924
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: but this could probably put him certainly potentially inside the

1925
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: top ten. It's great for him. But I'm gonna say this, like,

1926
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: my biggest takeaway from this is, yes, was this the

1927
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: stand up performance Laren Murphy, one hundred percent good on him,

1928
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 2: another great UK fighter. Happy to see it. Job well done.

1929
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: It's in Borbos has taken a lot of damage, dude.

1930
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: He looked so for as much as the two fight

1931
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: win streak that he was on coming into here, in

1932
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: which he redid his body incredible shape. Remember Billy Q

1933
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: overextended and got served. Yes, we loved sort of this

1934
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: aging process of this great veteran and really legend. He

1935
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: looked old, he looked gold in this fight. He did

1936
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: not move. His head was getting lit up with everything. Murph.

1937
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, let's go through some of his fights, right,

1938
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: So he lost this one. He got beat up a

1939
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: lot in this fight. He had the Sidik Yusef fight.

1940
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: He won that one, but dude. That first round he

1941
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: got the shit kicked out of him. Billy Quarantillo, that

1942
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: one didn't go very long. That one was fine. Bryce

1943
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: Mitchell beat the shit out of him. Gig At Chakazi

1944
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of him. The Burgos fight, he

1945
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: won that one, but that one was a little bit

1946
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: back and forth as well. I don't remember the Amir

1947
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: Kanie fight. I Gay took it to him. Paul Felder,

1948
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: that was back and forth. Justin Gaegee knocked him out cold.

1949
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: And I could go Kevin Lee habe've nember go main up.

1950
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 2: I can go on down the list. Dude. He has

1951
01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: taken an absolute metric ton of damage. He seems like

1952
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 2: a nice guy. He has. He has competed with every

1953
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: ounce he has in his body to give what he

1954
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 2: can to the sport. I salute him, what joy he

1955
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: has brought us the wheel kick on Terry Adam the

1956
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: whole nine yards. I'm starting to get uncomfortable with how

1957
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: much damage he's taking and if they don't adjust his matchmaking,

1958
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if he should be in some of

1959
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: these fights, man, I.

1960
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Really and I know he's come off the win of

1961
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: the Corn Till I get your concern. I'm not there

1962
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: on that. I'm there more on the as great as

1963
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: Murphy looked, and he did, and he really, you know,

1964
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: handled all categories and all aspects of that matchup. I

1965
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: can't like, put the title contender stamp on Murphy and

1966
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: throw him into battle against the top five because of this, right,

1967
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I feel like there were elements of why he had

1968
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: this level of success. That Barbosa was just falling him around,

1969
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: not moving his head and just getting lit up constantly.

1970
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: So it was sad to see in that regard, but

1971
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: big win for Murphy in the goes five hard rounds

1972
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: gets the close up atop of the poster for whoever

1973
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: was on this night in the Apex, which wasn't many,

1974
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: but Luke, he wasn't the only one who made at

1975
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: least a little bit of a statement. How about Walter

1976
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Way Chaos Williams against Carlton Harris showing us that those

1977
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Carlston showing us that those hands are legitimately dangerous. But

1978
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: what I didn't like was when they asked him, you know,

1979
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: give him the opportunity to do the call out, who

1980
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: do you want to fight? Whoever the company wants? This

1981
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm about Can we just get past that.

1982
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Can these fighters be businessmen?

1983
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: Please?

1984
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you always have to have the catchy

1985
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: call out and do the Connor McGregor are your whole

1986
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: family or hose like. You don't have to do that.

1987
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: That's too far. But dude, that's a big moment in

1988
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 1: a cole main event. You get a big knockout like

1989
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,919
Speaker 1: that and you look great in doing it. Play yourself

1990
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: over Stamp at home. You know what I'm saying.

1991
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: He got Harris out of there quicker than Schofcott Rockmanov did.

1992
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's better than rock Monov. I'm just

1993
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: saying it was a great performance. Build on it, man,

1994
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Again we try to tell him, hey,

1995
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: being a union so you can make money, we don't

1996
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 2: want that shit.

1997
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: They don't want to make money. Sam Malvy was right money.

1998
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: The other person I want to mention on their friend

1999
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: of the program, friend of the best MMA fighters with

2000
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 1: great hands. Adrian Janes. I know you're going to correct

2001
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: me and say, no, BC, it's Casseris.

2002
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: It's yan Yez. And he told me that to my face.

2003
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: It's yan Yez.

2004
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Sorry, Adrian, Adrian jan Yez boy, did he need

2005
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: a big one here, Luke, he delivered in a big way.

2006
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: Does this is he back? Does this redeem the step

2007
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: backs that he's head of?

2008
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 10: Lee?

2009
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: I heard him say if you actually listened to the broadcast.

2010
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: As soon as he knocks him out, he goes over

2011
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: to the commentary table or maybe where Dana was. I

2012
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: don't know, but he said, I'm so sorry for twenty

2013
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: to twenty three. That'll never happen again.

2014
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

2015
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I saw that conversation. I didn't know what he

2016
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: was saying.

2017
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. You know, listen, that's

2018
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: a big claim and we'll have to see he did

2019
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: have some setbacks. He is so clearly better than the

2020
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: caliber a fighter that the opponent he was here, and

2021
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: so just to get like, listen, I'll say this. I

2022
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: thought the matchmaking here was great. He needed to be

2023
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: dialed back in level of competition. This is a great

2024
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: tune up for him. Who did he beat what's the

2025
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: man's name, Venizia Salvador? Yes, and he was just much

2026
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: much much better than him and knocked him and nearly

2027
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: knocked him out a couple of times. The shots that

2028
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: were very very close, So This was a great win

2029
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 2: for me. Is he back he has to prove it

2030
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: against elite guys. You know, we don't know that to

2031
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: that to that point, but he looked awesome here. He

2032
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: did exactly what he was supposed to. Shouts to Adrianian Yez.

2033
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 2: Great win.

2034
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: Also this weekend on Friday night in Pari, Luke, we.

2035
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: Had people're not going to talk about the titty punch.

2036
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's up in the uh in they have you seen? Okay, okay,

2037
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: so you're about to see some of that Chia. Get

2038
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: a little tattoo on tite coming your way. Luke pf

2039
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Elatur was in Paris and we've had a lot of

2040
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: issues about the direction of a lot of things going

2041
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: on under the PFL banner. I wanted to watch this card.

2042
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to have the great analysis. I wanted to

2043
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: be able to debate and tell you did Patchy Mix

2044
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: do enough in a split decision win over Mago met

2045
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: Mago metoff and they're largely unnecessary rematch to defend his

2046
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Belatur bandamweight title. Luke. It airs now on Max in

2047
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: the US HBO Max.

2048
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: I watched live.

2049
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I tried to watch on replay because I missed it

2050
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: live covering. Uh, or maybe I was just covering my

2051
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: life at that point.

2052
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

2053
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: It's not available on demand on Max. I could not

2054
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: find streams online or YouTube replays because they've been taken down.

2055
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: This is the company, the TV site that the TV

2056
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: arm that they signed with. I wanted to watch the fights.

2057
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: I I'm not going to put out a video, you know,

2058
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: taken down ESPN Plus because that's Luke's territory. But Luke,

2059
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: this sucks. I actually wanted to fight. They make it

2060
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: so hard that even on its actual platform, I couldn't

2061
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: go back and watch it. So since you did watch it, Luke,

2062
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: did PATCHI Mix take a step back? Did he deserve

2063
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 1: this victory? He had put in Maga Metov to sleep

2064
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: when they fought in the one million dollar tournament a

2065
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: year and a half ago. This time around, it was

2066
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: a split decision, which many people have said the clean

2067
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: striking of Maga Metov may have been enough to get

2068
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: the job done. What are you're judging?

2069
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 2: I say, I thought that PATCHI Mix was lucky to

2070
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: get this one. I thought Maga Madoff had probably done enough.

2071
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: He certainly had done the more damage in the fight.

2072
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Now there was one. There was a couple of them,

2073
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: but there was one guillotine attempt from Pachi that was

2074
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: very close and so how do you score that one

2075
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: versus damage that? So he did have a couple of

2076
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 2: moments and one big one in particular where the fight

2077
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: could have been over. But dude, he looked not like

2078
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 2: the guy who ran over the Ban Samway tournament in

2079
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Belatore under the previous run.

2080
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,799
Speaker 1: Well, it would be his motivation. I know he got engaged.

2081
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: We'll see that and have you seen this shit? And

2082
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: shout out to him and Tatiana Suarez, But like, what

2083
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 1: are they doing with him? They don't have a PFL

2084
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: division at bantam Wait, he wasn't chosen for their sort

2085
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: of pay per view division that is it existed? I

2086
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, right, we haven't seen Angano or Jake

2087
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Paul the big sign Hees fight yet. We haven't seen

2088
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Manda Serrano or whatever get back in there. In terms

2089
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: of the gimmicky stuff. Look, I feel like Patri Mix

2090
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: is just on this island now where it's like if

2091
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't look great, we're gonna be like, oh, it's

2092
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: actually that guy.

2093
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 2: But it's not that he just looked He he didn't

2094
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 2: have much head movement, he was getting tagged in ways

2095
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: he had never been tagged, couldn't get the takedown as

2096
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: easily when he wanted it, didn't go for the takedown.

2097
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean there was times where it was like, dude,

2098
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 2: wrestle this guy. You're better than him on the mat,

2099
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: and he just wouldn't do it.

2100
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a hard question. How does he get out

2101
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: of this deal and fight the best in the world.

2102
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2103
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't normally say that because I want competition,

2104
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: and if he's an asset for the PFL, protect it.

2105
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: They're not using him as an asset. They're putting I mean,

2106
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: they are to sell the Championship Series on the road.

2107
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: But it's like, why was he in Paris? Why was

2108
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: that fight there? Why was he fighting Mago Metof It

2109
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense.

2110
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Literally, Cedric Dumbay fought on that card and turned the

2111
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: place on five. And the guy he beat, Juliu Willis,

2112
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 2: I think was an LFA champ previously.

2113
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Played Steve Rkele on Family Matters.

2114
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make Jili Willis not Jelil White.

2115
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sir, he you could have just had the

2116
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: card with him you didn't need Again, granted, Patrick MIxS

2117
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: won the best on the world, so understand where they

2118
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: put him on there.

2119
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: But well they want to have two champions defending belts

2120
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: per well.

2121
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: They have to and they had. But also, like we

2122
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: should just talk about this. You're seeing notable fighters from

2123
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: Bellatore in this case Douglas Lima now gigguard Musasi, who

2124
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 2: have complained that they have been told their contracts are

2125
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 2: worth too much PFL doesn't want to pay. They're just.

2126
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 1: Was tweeting every day basically saying like get me a fight,

2127
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: Like what going on?

2128
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: I can't believe that PFL thinks having more fighters with

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01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 2: who are basically cheap but anonymous or live in relative anonymity,

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01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: that that's a better model than the stars, or they

2131
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: don't think that these guys are stars. They don't think

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01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: Mussac or Lima or Cyborg or stars, in which case let

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01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: them go.

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01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: How is this not available on the app?

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01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2136
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: I just checked. I just checked. Here's the thing.

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: Is it available?

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01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: No? I don't, I don't. I don't see it.

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01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Every keyword possible I searched in there, and it's not.

2140
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: It's not available.

2141
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 2: I guess it could be there. I don't see it,

2142
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 2: But what I was gonna say was, at least I

2143
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 2: got to watch it live. ESPN Plus doesn't even let

2144
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: me do that. But getting back to PFL, I don't

2145
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 2: I just I saw something the other day. They put

2146
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: out a bout card and it had like fourteen fights

2147
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: and so it had twenty eight like squares for fighters faces,

2148
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: then big PFL logo at the top, and I'm like, dude,

2149
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: who is the fucking audience for this MMA? You don't

2150
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: need with fighters you've never heard of, in a format

2151
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: that no one likes because it takes away elbows? You

2152
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: think that is your fucking path the profitability. Or maybe

2153
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: they don't. Maybe they just want to build up PFL

2154
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 2: and then just sell it and be on their way.

2155
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't really know, but that that is a bridge

2156
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: to know.

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01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Long Island, Loluke, can I bring you? And you

2158
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: told me something pre show that was interesting that he

2159
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: is HIV. He did say that unfortunately Elevator multiple women,

2160
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 1: but DeLong Island, Luke that question you pondered.

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01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 5: The patchy mixed Tatiana one or no the other one?

2162
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 5: What was the other one?

2163
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: So What he basically says is there's something contractually that

2164
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: is preventing PFL from combining the two banners for a

2165
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: certain point based on the language of the sale. I

2166
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: haven't heard this. Have you heard something like this.

2167
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 2: That I've heard? That they have to air Belator for

2168
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: a year separately, separately, and then they could dissolve the brand.

2169
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: But how in acquiring it they had to air it

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01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 2: for a year yet, so.

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01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: They're forced to do this, which is my major complaint

2172
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: right now. Here's basically what I'm saying is, I don't

2173
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: want you to fail, PFL. I like some of the

2174
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: I like the the gun at the hip nature. I

2175
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: don't get mad when Don Davis comes out and says, no,

2176
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: we're here to take all We're here to compete and

2177
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward. Are you telling me, Luke?

2178
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: Based on what Long Island? Luke is insinuating raised by

2179
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: an Australian father, that that there's a there's a contractual

2180
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: element that's stopping them, that they have to do this

2181
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: this way.

2182
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 2: Because I think it's cute that you don't believe me,

2183
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,480
Speaker 2: and that you think that PFL actually could just rearrange

2184
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 2: the deck chair or the deck chairs on the Titanic

2185
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: and somehow find a way to profitability when there's actually

2186
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 2: nothing they.

2187
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: Okay, the best thing they can do is drop the

2188
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: seasonal format, put their roster together.

2189
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: I have one title per division and try to compete

2191
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: as an alternate and try to get big free agents

2192
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: and do a lot of pay per views. I agree,

2193
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: that's probably how.

2194
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 2: I agree they could do things better. But the idea

2195
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: that they could do things better and then last is

2196
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: just it's just people. How are just fantasizing about things

2197
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: that are never gonna happen? All right?

2198
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: How good is Cedric Dumbag going to be?

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01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 2: He's a fucking star over there. I mean the first

2200
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 2: of all, do you see who was there in attendance

2201
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: to watch him fight Victor? That a game, right, like

2202
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 2: the get the New NBA sensation. Obviously he's French.

2203
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Wait does Belature utilize the smart cage or just like

2204
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: a regular size intelligence?

2205
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 2: I think they.

2206
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: I think they use like so.

2207
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 2: There's honor roll and then there's merit role. I think

2208
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: it's the merit roll cage, you know what I mean?

2209
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,959
Speaker 2: Like the kind of they get b's in their classes

2210
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 2: and then get three's on their AP exams when they

2211
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 2: take them. He is incredible. And I'm going to say this,

2212
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of star he's going to

2213
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: be here, but he's a massive star for them in France,

2214
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: which is obviously a burgency market. In Europe probably more

2215
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: generally use him as much as you possibly can, and

2216
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 2: he appears to be in natural His takedown defense was

2217
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 2: so much better than I thought it was going to be,

2218
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 2: especially for given his last contest. He's they've got something

2219
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: with him. Now what will that ultimately lead to? I

2220
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 2: don't know, but dude, putting Francis over there, putting Cedric

2221
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 2: on a card with Francis. If they can do that, Hughes, dude,

2222
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 2: they could do big things in Europe. I'll give them that.

2223
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: If they want to do big things in Europe when

2224
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: the UFC is just kicking their feet up at the Apex,

2225
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: door is open for that for sure.

2226
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff. All right, Luke, those are your five topics

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01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 1: of the week. Now we open the floor up to

2228
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: the fans who every Sunday night respond to our Instagram

2229
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: post at morning combat soliciting your questions for the two

2230
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: hosts to answer. This one's called DMS oh.

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01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Man, you're supposed to get rid of that. We're also

2232
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: supposed to have a new trailer, and we don't have

2233
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: that either. So there's lots of things we don't have.

2234
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: I'll get on Matt Snyder for that.

2235
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: We don't even have a producer here today.

2236
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: You know you've had a producer credit for a long time.

2237
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: Luckily though. Okay, let's go to question number one from

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01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Lee Davis. Great question here, who is the equivalent

2239
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: of what Alexander Usik has done? I'm thinking in the

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Speaker 1: heavyweight division and boxing. Is there an equivalent of that

2241
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,759
Speaker 1: in UFC history? Would you argue that the closest answer

2242
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: is Randy Couture's.

2243
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 2: He's pretty close penned to an extent, But I mean,

2244
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: there the person falls apart. Honestly, I would sort of

2245
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: say it's kind of the spirit of Frankie Edgar at

2246
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: lightweight a little bit okay, where it's not you don't

2247
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 2: have the two weight classes or like, you know, the

2248
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: fact that this guy has won it every single level

2249
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: at the highest level he's trying.

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01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: You're not equating Couture beating Sylvia over five rounds to

2251
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: what Usik did to Fury you're not going to take it.

2252
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a fair comparison. But I mean,

2253
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 2: but there's there's some parallels, obviously because of the size disparity,

2254
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: but it's something like that. It's something like Edgar kind

2255
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 2: of competing way outside of his normal size and still

2256
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: having success. But you know, the equivalent to Usick and

2257
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: MMA doesn't exist.

2258
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 5: What about Triple C two time champion and Olympic.

2259
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: Guy got folded by Demetrius won a title. Yeah, no,

2260
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 2: not that guy.

2261
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: It's not an awful comparison. A guy that's cerebral a

2262
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: little bit that.

2263
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 2: This is what makes Usik unique. There are some portions

2264
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 2: of it that are parallel, and then there are some

2265
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: portions where it completely falls apart.

2266
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: His comedy is so much better than Captain Curage's.

2267
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's not saying much.

2268
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: I mean when he calls fiery greedy belly, I can't

2269
01:38:58,479 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: stop laughing every single time.

2270
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 2: He calls fury greedy belly.

2271
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: That's what he was during the him and schlamenco.

2272
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 2: I am beat you, I am Fie.

2273
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I am field double kebab, Yes, let's go do

2274
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: at Cee Zodiebear, Zodibear Devin Haney is pushing legal action

2275
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: to get the result of the Ryan Garcia fight turned

2276
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,879
Speaker 1: into a win. Do you think that this will actually

2277
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: hurt Haney's career slash reputation going forward with how the

2278
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: fight played out if he does somehow get it turned

2279
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: into a victory. Basically, they're saying, should he just let

2280
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: it go?

2281
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 2: Won't she won't. They're never going to turn that into

2282
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: a W. It's never gonna They did it for that.

2283
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Butte fight against It was a draw against the failed

2284
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the test. They give him the win. They did not

2285
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: do that like they should have win your favorite fight

2286
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: in DC when American defeated Lamont Peterson, So the other

2287
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: way around, Peterson defeated by disputed, questionable, controversial decision and

2288
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: then Peterson pops and then they don't even change it

2289
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: to a no contest. They just leave it as a win.

2290
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,520
Speaker 1: What what is DC doing that? First of all, the baristas

2291
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: in DC are so unhappy with you with life.

2292
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, just to you, just you. They're nice

2293
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: to me. They're not going to turn into a W.

2294
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: A draw being turned into a W is one thing.

2295
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 2: This was a I'm not gonna say one way ass kicking,

2296
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 2: but a lot of ass kicking. The cards were kind

2297
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 2: of close, but not really in the end. But I've

2298
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 2: never seen one get a get an L and then

2299
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 2: you know in the in the sort of authoritative fashion

2300
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: where you got it, and then it's flipped to a W.

2301
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,600
Speaker 2: No contest one hundred. They're going to do that, but

2302
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: a win it will never happen.

2303
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: What elements of the way Haney is handling this? Do

2304
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: you think it's hurting his reputation?

2305
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: No, he's hurting him. It's hurting him with boxing twitter.

2306
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 2: He has every right to pursue this. But if it

2307
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 2: was just one thing or the other, I would be like,

2308
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 2: kind of let it go. But it's both of those things,

2309
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 2: and the weight miss in particular is really quite egregious.

2310
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 2: He's very right to do that.

2311
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Rematch is going to be big. Gon be sick, dude,

2312
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a wait for that at Walter, Wait,

2313
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: it's gotta be indeed, let's go do number four No three?

2314
01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,799
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but it's a from at Meager.

2315
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: What would you like to see incorporated into the ufc

2316
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: apex to make it suck less? Example, less fights and

2317
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: more fans. No commentary, only sounds of strikes or fighter

2318
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: watch party.

2319
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 2: I watch parties would do zero for Okay, So.

2320
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: I brought out this idea pre show with Long Island Luke,

2321
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: where I said, look, what if you because we always

2322
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: say bring in bleachers, bring in real fans like jazz

2323
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 1: it up, rather than the one hundred or so people

2324
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: that paid a couple thousand to be there, Why don't

2325
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: you bring in since there's so many local fighters that

2326
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: live in Vegas, train in Vegas, go to the PI,

2327
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: give them free tickets, free booze, have a fight, have

2328
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: a UFC fighter section where they all sit and then

2329
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 1: you have a camera pointed at them and they get

2330
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 1: crazy reactions and it drives up the ambiance and the

2331
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: or just bring in some degenerate gamblers and let them

2332
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: sit in the front row. I mean, do something to

2333
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: spice this up. Look it's not hard. It's really not

2334
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:48,879
Speaker 1: that hard in reality.

2335
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Really just make better fights. You could do that too.

2336
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: I yeah, that also could fix it.

2337
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: And I have said that, Yes, bringing in more people

2338
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 2: would be a little bit better. You could do a

2339
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 2: little bit w EC style.

2340
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: Or Ultimate Fighter for now or not I'm sorry. Ultimate Fighter.

2341
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Remember they have the fights in the with with crowds there.

2342
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: At the end. I went to one of them. Yes,

2343
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, yes, did you.

2344
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: See Tyron Woodley, by the way, said he wants to

2345
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: plan and them and may come back. And he says

2346
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: the reason why his career fell apart with the UFC

2347
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: was fighting in the Apex and just having no motivation.

2348
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 2: Or care to be That doesn't explain how he lost

2349
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 2: to Bosman, which was not It was lifeless. His lost

2350
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,719
Speaker 2: and that was part of the all of the laws.

2351
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe you know, I mean he will beat

2352
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: your ass over you know, Tiern Willy. That's a great

2353
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: rap single he's put out there. He showed his ass

2354
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: on a few movies roles. But he's grasping at this

2355
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: point to get back in the game.

2356
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 2: It sounds I don't know. I mean, he's doing commentary

2357
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: with PFL. I don't know what that pays, but there's that.

2358
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, like, what can be done

2359
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 2: to fix the APEX. Getting out of the Apex there's.

2360
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay, But if you're not going to and I get

2361
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: the financial part of having that in your hole store,

2362
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 1: even if they're doing it once a month or whatever,

2363
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: bringing as many real fans as you can live and up.

2364
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 2: There spring fans to fights that are not super consequential

2365
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 2: has very limited upside. I honestly feel like the better

2366
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: thing to do is make better fights.

2367
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: I wish somebody in a press conference would raise their

2368
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: hand and just say, hey, Dana. Given the year over

2369
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 1: year financial record breaking growth that you guys are constantly having,

2370
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: the ticket prices are through the roof, you're selling out

2371
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: and second gate for the counterfight, how the hell do

2372
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 1: we justify the matchmaking of late And why is the

2373
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Apex cards suck so much?

2374
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 2: How do they have because they have to produce enough

2375
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 2: content in words?

2376
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: But I want an answer. Although remember that time mcmaynard

2377
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: defended it all on Twitter to get which.

2378
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: Cards have been bad? I mean the pay per views, dude,

2379
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: nine three hundred were all amazing, yes, but the Apex

2380
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 2: cards are. I mean the.

2381
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: People are like, I'm super morning complaint, not morning complaint,

2382
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, like Guy by the way, Guy Ben Guy

2383
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: Ben is making he grows He's a professional weed grower, Benfield.

2384
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 1: He's growing us complaint a plant that's called morning compla.

2385
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: I get video updates all the time.

2386
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.

2387
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait try But we've become morning complaint a

2388
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: lot right because we're called out, Hey, PFL, get your

2389
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: shit together, Hey Dana, stop lying to us about power

2390
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: slap numbers?

2391
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: Do how do people not see what's going on in

2392
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: the MMA industry and think like, how do you look

2393
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: around again?

2394
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to complain.

2395
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: Point the big pay per views have up to this

2396
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 2: point in the last few months have been great, like,

2397
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But how do you look at

2398
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: the industry right now and think like everything is functioning

2399
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 2: well and service to the consumer is the number one

2400
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: priority of either PFL or UFC. How do you how

2401
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: do you you have to like lie to yourself to

2402
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 2: get to that position.

2403
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I've been in that as a boxing fan for years.

2404
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of lying to myself. Okay, I

2405
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be there with MMA. That's been the

2406
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 1: consistent and a lot of times, look like, let's be honest,

2407
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 1: this is our careers. So when we're complaining, we're chairing

2408
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: for the sport. To put it, same thing I did

2409
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: for years as a boxing journalist, you're openly complaining for

2410
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 1: the sport you cover that feeds your family to be

2411
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: as good as it can be so that everybody wins. Right,

2412
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: The fights are more exciting, there's more money to be made,

2413
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: there's more job opportunities. Like, we have a stake in this.

2414
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: We're not just two critical old UFC fans who wanted

2415
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: the old way. Dude, Like, this is our livelihood, this

2416
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: is our life, this is our passion. I don't want

2417
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: the UFC to suck when they have this much money

2418
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: in this deep of a roster.

2419
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 2: Right again, nine three hundred amazing. I know what it's

2420
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 2: I have lived through eras when the UFC was trying

2421
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 2: their ass off and killing it most of the time,

2422
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 2: and right now they are killing it sometimes, but it's

2423
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: very inconsistent.

2424
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: They're killing it softly or you know, hardly.

2425
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't make sense either, but you get go.

2426
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: Hey, we have a fourth question. A DM dive here

2427
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: from at Fergul fits if Puawewe beats Islam Maha Chev

2428
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: well Dustin have the best UFC resume of any first

2429
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: time UFC champion.

2430
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: So when you say best resume, it's like best wins. Maybe,

2431
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: so at.

2432
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: The time of winning their first title, does he have

2433
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: the most accomplished resume? Like someone like lolover to Cher,

2434
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: who came into the title late had a pretty damn

2435
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: accomplished resume, but Poitier's next level compared to that.

2436
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: Right, again, the losses. When you say resume, you can't

2437
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: just ignore the lossuit. But if you were, if you

2438
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 2: were trying to say has the best resume in terms

2439
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: of big name wins, he probably would be right. Because

2440
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 2: you again McGregor twice, we've been through at Chandler and

2441
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 2: Kachie and Eddie and many others as well. Yeah, he

2442
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 2: might Max twice, Max twice, Bobby Green. No, I'm sorry.

2443
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: OLIVERA didn't get Olivera back in the day.

2444
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: R Olivera whipped him, whipped him the other way around here.

2445
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there you go. All right, we got one

2446
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 1: more for you, and it's from at Sovereign Mind five nineteen,

2447
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, how was cannibal Corpse live in DC, the

2448
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: nation's capital? So with your lovely wife, By the way,

2449
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: she is a saint for enduring this.

2450
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: She loved it. She loved it.

2451
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I need to question her then? Would she

2452
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: ever appear on the show, because you know, my wife

2453
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,600
Speaker 1: and kids do not want to be associated with this.

2454
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: They just want to cash the checks respectfully. Your wife

2455
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: appeared on our dock.

2456
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah that time, she might, I mean she might. I

2457
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,879
Speaker 2: wouldn't want her to because the internet's filled with ghouls.

2458
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 2: But that's true. So I didn't end up actually meeting them.

2459
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 2: It kind of didn't work. You.

2460
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 1: You went to the concert.

2461
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 2: So there was four bands. There was like Frozen Soul, Obituary,

2462
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Cannibal Corpse, and then the headliner was a mono Marth,

2463
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: and I don't want I don't listen to a mono Marth.

2464
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 2: It's not it's Viking metal. It's not for me.

2465
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: It's what too poppy commercial for you.

2466
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,679
Speaker 2: It's not that it's just corny as shit. I mean, okay,

2467
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this just a second.

2468
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Is it like I like classic rock with Jethro Toll

2469
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: with the flu is too much? Is it like one

2470
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 1: of those.

2471
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 2: SEPs or something like that. So, like, here's what you

2472
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: have to understand. I'd never been invited backstage before. I

2473
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 2: didn't know what that meant. Yes, so I went kind

2474
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: of early thinking I'll I'll get them before they head

2475
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: out on stage. Because I didn't. I don't I don't

2476
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 2: know what the fuck I'm doing. So I get there

2477
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 2: early and sure enough, I was like, I went to

2478
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 2: We'll call. I'm like, I think I'm on the because

2479
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 2: the guy told me. He's like, you're on the guest list.

2480
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 2: It was like, I'm on the guest list. So she

2481
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 2: goes give me your name and gave it to R.

2482
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 2: She comes back with an envelope and in the envelope

2483
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 2: it was two tickets. It were great, and then there

2484
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: were two passes for the after show.

2485
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Is that when they bite the heads off of children.

2486
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 2: They feed him to Kimoto dragon? Yes? Yes, And so

2487
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, fuck dude, because I didn't know I

2488
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 2: was going to have to do this afterward my child care,

2489
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 2: my lady had to go home.

2490
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: At eleven thirty, dude, you could have met George Corpsegrinder.

2491
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 2: I know, hold on, but we had the babysitter till

2492
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: eleven thirty. There was nothing I could do. So the

2493
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: show ended at like eleven twenty and I waited in

2494
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 2: the back. When they told us to queue up. We

2495
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 2: had to give his stickers for it, and they're like,

2496
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 2: I was like, how long is this going to take?

2497
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, like when the tour is ready. The

2498
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 2: tour is ready. So we waited till like the last minute.

2499
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 2: We actually ended up being late at home eleven forty five.

2500
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 2: I had to get her like a nice uber home.

2501
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 2: I didn't meet him, so I eat once we got

2502
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,640
Speaker 2: there and I realized, oh fuck, this is for afterwards.

2503
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 2: I actually emailed the guy because I didn't have his number,

2504
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 2: and he responded. He was like, dude, don't worry. If

2505
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 2: you can make it, you can make it, don't sweat it.

2506
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

2507
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: And this is the lead Guitarist's the lead guitarist, Eric Rutan.

2508
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: Is he the original guy too?

2509
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 2: No, he took over when the other guy lost his mind, but.

2510
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: He was all the guy that did.

2511
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 2: He He's from a band called Hate Eternal. Uh and

2512
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 2: then he joined this one. So in the end, I

2513
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: didn't get to see it, but you asking. I wanted

2514
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 2: to say this, so I don't go to shows like

2515
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 2: a monomorph. That's not what I do. Okay, I don't

2516
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 2: go to Viking Metal, I don't go to fucking I

2517
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 2: don't go to Okay.

2518
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: Don't don't use this as a setup to defend the

2519
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: metal that you do go to, because it's not good all.

2520
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 2: Right, fine, but we don't do this at my shows.

2521
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 2: So the Viking Metal donks get out there and they're

2522
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 2: doing Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum, and

2523
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's the corniest shit I've ever seen in

2524
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 2: my life.

2525
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: It's like Pirate songs.

2526
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty close. I didn't realize this when I go

2527
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 2: to like Dying Fetus or Cannibal Corpse and they start

2528
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: playing dude, it's I mean, you got you, It's time

2529
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: to knuckle up. Like it gets busy on the fucking floor. Okay,

2530
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 2: not at Viking Metal shows. Do you know what they do?

2531
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 2: First time I've ever seen this, but apparently it happens

2532
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 2: all the time. When they're playing some of their like

2533
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 2: yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum songs like

2534
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 2: just the lamesh shit ever hurt in your life, the

2535
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: audience all sits down, gets in a row and pretends

2536
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 2: like they're rowing a boat. And I was like, I

2537
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't I didn't say this, but I

2538
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: was thinking, you know, I'm at an elevated position, like

2539
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not saying I'm not saying anything.

2540
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything, you know, Din back Darryl please,

2541
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: okay too, where's one of these when you need it?

2542
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2543
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 1: But I didn't.

2544
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. It just

2545
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 2: went through my mind. It was the lamest fucking thing.

2546
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: So you're like, if a white lion Rhode Island fire

2547
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: broke out, you'd be happy to leave it.

2548
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I was tempted to just turn back into

2549
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 2: like my primate self and just start flinging my feces

2550
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 2: at him.

2551
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, g g Allen.

2552
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 2: Uh all right, so those days long? Isn't look Is

2553
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,440
Speaker 2: that not lame as shit? To row a boat on the.

2554
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 5: Floor, that's pretty wad well.

2555
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, but what's the alternative to to to just

2556
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: run with my fist out into all these other.

2557
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: Due playing the knockout game with you is much better

2558
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: than rowing imaginary boats.

2559
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,719
Speaker 1: We may or may not, I hope may be going

2560
01:50:55,760 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: to Jervonte and David Benafitez the PPC double header Une

2561
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: fifteenth in Vegas. We're finalizing those plans. Dead and Company

2562
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 1: Residency had the sphere. Have you seen the early videos

2563
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: and pictures?

2564
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 2: So I did see the videos.

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01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: It looks crazy, dude, it looks I talked to you

2566
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: looks crazy. One of our best MK viewers, Josh, was

2567
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: there on opening night and he said he he took

2568
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,799
Speaker 1: too many shrooms so he didn't get the full He didn't,

2569
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to get, but he said it was like

2570
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: life changing and life altering. Look that does look whatever

2571
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: substances are going to be in your body, even if nothing,

2572
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: even if just caffeine, that does look like something that

2573
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 1: you'll never forget. And in fact, you owe me a

2574
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: concert you don't want to be at, you.

2575
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: Know, I do owe you. I'm going to honor the bet,

2576
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 2: but I don't.

2577
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: Know if that's fair to be Like, Okay, then buy

2578
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars tickets to the sphere whatever the hell

2579
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: they cost, you.

2580
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 2: Know, maybe show talking. Oh wait, that's not fair. All right?

2581
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: Hey? You know what else I did this weekend, guys?

2582
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: I scoured the globe for the highs and lows, the good,

2583
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, in the in between. Right as

2584
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 1: we wrap up DMS from Donks in the worlds of

2585
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: Combat Sports and beyond, I'm looking for viral videos that

2586
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: make Luke Thomas laugh. This one's called have.

2587
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 2: You seen this Ship?

2588
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: Who? That's like Axl Rose, like.

2589
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,520
Speaker 2: At the end, right, he's racist.

2590
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, we're gonna start off out there in

2591
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: Sadi for Fury versus Usik. How about this We should

2592
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: have seen it coming. How about this Cossack warrior in

2593
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: scott inspired garb and just like Cossack Cossack. Yes, Luke,

2594
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: this is we should have seen this coming when we

2595
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: saw his face and this outfit coming out like all business.

2596
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: You come out with feathers or dead animals on your

2597
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 2: head and you're from Eastern Europe or a former Soviet block, Yeah,

2598
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 2: it's curtains for you, bitches.

2599
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: Fury's walk up, alternatively, was not the pomp and circumstance

2600
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: were used to.

2601
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 2: There wasn't like a king's He was dancing and ship,

2602
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, dude, he had he He wasn't

2603
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 2: treating Usik like he treated wild or calling him a

2604
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: big dosser and ship.

2605
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 1: You didn't see well he okay, So what we talked

2606
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: about in the pre fight was true. He couldn't get

2607
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: in Usak's head. No, how much of Fury's power is

2608
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,919
Speaker 1: the mental game. That's a big part of the overall

2609
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: power that you punching power, I mean, his strength as

2610
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: a fighter He's a great off, unique unorthodox boxer. He

2611
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: does have power. He six foot nine, dude, he gets

2612
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:12,879
Speaker 1: in your head. He couldn't do that at all.

2613
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 2: And also just has like certain kind of swag at times.

2614
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: He didn't have that this time. Not much interesting.

2615
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

2616
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Saudi also brought out the stars upon personal invite from Turkey.

2617
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: Ala chic. There's Ryan Garcia meeting your guy own all though, Luke.

2618
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is cr seven baby Pride of Saudi Arabia.

2619
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 1: What do they talk about? Because we once saw McGregor

2620
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: and Ronaldo ringside for a Saudi card. What do you

2621
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: think these two were talking about? I mean, bitches and cocaine.

2622
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Or we definitely not you know, uh, astrophysics and yeah

2623
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, Bibonacci sequence.

2624
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, Ragui met many champions this weekend in Saudi, including

2625
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 1: this guy has Bulah's biggest rival, ab Do Rosic.

2626
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 2: Luke, you're still that motherfucker.

2627
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when is Turkey gonna give us that fight

2628
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: that we need?

2629
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 2: Just throw throw the engine?

2630
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's way too far. How's Bulah versus abdu Rosick?

2631
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: What's the early line these two?

2632
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: Yo? No, it should be him and abdu Rosick versus

2633
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Devin Haney with with what's his face on top?

2634
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: So it's like a chicken water. Yeah, that's I don't

2635
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 1: know about that. Uh, let's go to Eddie Hurst. So

2636
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: you know how Ryan Ggarcia and Edie Hearn have a

2637
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: beef going on.

2638
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 2: I've heard of it.

2639
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 1: They were both in Saudie. Here's an interview with Eddie

2640
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 1: Hearn when they're asking what's gonna happen if you run

2641
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: into riot?

2642
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 11: Get a quick reaction to I'm sure you're just seen

2643
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 11: a video of Ryan Garcia that's just surfaced online saying

2644
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 11: he's gonna he said he want's gonna punch you pretty much.

2645
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 12: We'll say how that ends for him, Okay, I mean

2646
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 12: he's in enough trouble at the moment. I mean, if

2647
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 12: he wants to try and punch me, I mean it'd

2648
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 12: definitely be first to the punch. What happens doing, what

2649
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 12: happens after, we'll see. But you know, he's a professional

2650
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 12: fire I'm an old man. If he wants to punch me,

2651
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 12: he'll punched me. As I said, who said that guy's friend?

2652
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 11: This guy went in Sadi arrivitieswick, I'm.

2653
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: Luke. It sounded to me like Eddie was saying, fuck

2654
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: around and find out. Are I wrong here?

2655
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Give him the old fucking So.

2656
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: He is six foot seven, Eddie heard. People don't always remember.

2657
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 2: That he is big. He's large. That doesn't mean much.

2658
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: You can be tall on fight for like a like

2659
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 2: a like a hoe.

2660
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Do you think he's trying to say, Okay, Ryan, you're

2661
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: the faster hands, you're the pro boxer. You're gonna hit

2662
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: me once. But if I don't go down.

2663
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 2: He's just saying some bullshit. But he's not doing his

2664
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 2: backing down. That's what I love. Like what he's saying

2665
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 2: is in any way relevant, No, but like sticking to

2666
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 2: his guns. Fuck you. I love that about boxing.

2667
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: I do like Eddy Her. I am an Eddie Hern guy.

2668
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

2669
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: We're talking about Turkey alas Sheik when we're talking about

2670
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. We're talking about his ability Luke to get

2671
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: people in the room together who don't want to be together,

2672
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: to sign deals and maybe repair friendships. He's now taking

2673
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: on what is considered the juiciest rivalry in all of

2674
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: combat sports. Listen in when Turkey showed up on Aerials

2675
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: show with a proposition.

2676
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 10: And don't a small direct message for you when you

2677
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:10,839
Speaker 10: finish your fight with Danna White. Want to see you together.

2678
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 10: I have a direct message now to Danna White and

2679
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 10: to you. It is time to turn the page and

2680
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 10: beginning a new page. And I invite you and the

2681
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 10: card of the end of June and UFC or in

2682
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 10: the card of the boxing in the first of June,

2683
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 10: because I know you are in the eighteen is busy,

2684
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 10: And I invite you to lend them in Los Angeles.

2685
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 10: And if you come to the card and the UFC card,

2686
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 10: any card with us in REALB or the next card

2687
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 10: and REALB or in the Vegas card and the sphere,

2688
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 10: I want to sit me and you and Dana White together.

2689
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 9: Well that means a lot to me, more than you know.

2690
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 9: You think that you can broke a piece between Dana

2691
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 9: White and I. I'm not so sure. I don't know

2692
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 9: if he If he wants to make peace, I would

2693
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 9: be open to it. I'm not sure if he is

2694
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 9: open to it.

2695
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 10: I will try my best. But I think he's a

2696
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 10: smart guy, and I think he's uh.

2697
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Business guy.

2698
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 10: I don't think he takes a lot of things as

2699
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 10: a personal and I would try my best because I

2700
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 10: want you.

2701
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: To be Turkey. You had me until that moment you

2702
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: had me into like you know what. Look, maybe he could,

2703
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: maybe he could sit Dana and Ril down and break

2704
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: bread and make it happen. But then when he goes,

2705
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I think Dana's about business. He wouldn't take things personal.

2706
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what he does.

2707
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: But Luke, what Turkey's trying to say is that if

2708
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 1: if we can change, you can change or whatever the

2709
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: Rocky for speech was, if he could actually get Dana

2710
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: and Ariel sat down, then I'm going to invite Turkey

2711
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: to New York because maybe he can bridge that gap

2712
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: between you and Johanna.

2713
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody cares except you.

2714
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if if Turkey brings that together, brings

2715
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: us in, Yo wanta together? You and you want me

2716
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: and you wanta together.

2717
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 2: That's what you want?

2718
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: No, I was talking about like a union. That's what

2719
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: I like, a union. Do you think that he can

2720
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 1: do that? Will will Dana chance? So Dana won't even

2721
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: be on camera, whether he won't even be like in

2722
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: the same room.

2723
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 2: Do they made Ariel leave like he couldn't even be

2724
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: within a line of sight of Dana at any point

2725
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 2: where he was working at ESPN. It's not possible. And

2726
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 2: you know some of the closed door meetings that we've

2727
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 2: talked about before and things that have been said, it's

2728
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 2: not going to happen.

2729
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 1: One day. One day, I'll be able to tell that

2730
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: story publicly. That's an interesting one. Speaking of Dana Luke,

2731
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: I know that you already know that power Slap is

2732
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: huge in your home nation of India. Dana's got some

2733
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: updated statistics for us.

2734
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 13: This is the biggest. When I say that this is

2735
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 13: the biggest thing on social media, we started this thirteen

2736
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 13: months ago. This thing has thirteen million followers on social media.

2737
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 13: I've been on social media since, like I was one

2738
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 13: of the first fucking Twitter guys. Right, I have twenty

2739
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 13: million followers. This thing already has thirteen. It's bigger than

2740
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 13: the NHL. It's bigger than the PGA, NASCAR. We're crushing

2741
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 13: at where about the past Major League Baseball as far

2742
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 13: as numbers go?

2743
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 2: Right?

2744
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 14: Wow, Then, now, when you talk about numbers on views

2745
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 14: on this thing, take every sport on Earth, combine all

2746
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 14: their numbers together and multiply it by four.

2747
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 1: Power slab beats. It isn't that fascinating. I'm buying an island.

2748
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: Remember that I'm buying in island.

2749
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 2: Doesn't even match real Madrid's numbers much less all of

2750
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 2: every reason.

2751
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: People we're trying to figure out what he's saying. Is

2752
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: he saying the TikTok numbers or is he just lying,

2753
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: is just completely.

2754
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Lying, or he's just confused.

2755
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 1: That's possible because nobody I know it's actually watches this. Seriously,

2756
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 1: only time.

2757
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 2: I hear about power Slam is when people are making

2758
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 2: fun of it. Like no one I know in any

2759
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 2: capacity is either aware.

2760
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 1: Of it or talking just about Rumble because I don't

2761
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: think the other sports are on Rumble.

2762
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 2: Right, maybe, but Rumble doesn't have like an audience like

2763
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 2: YouTube does.

2764
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he has four times all the sports combined on Rumble.

2765
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:24,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the truth.

2766
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 2: Maybe, so maybe on Rumble they are like just.

2767
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 1: I could be like, we're the biggest show on MySpace,

2768
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Like well okay.

2769
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know on friendst I have more than

2770
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 2: every team combined. Okay, all right, let's.

2771
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Go to the baseball pitch, Luke, we got to see

2772
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:44,839
Speaker 1: some shenanigans here, just a bit inside Wow, look inside

2773
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 1: the groin? Right, wow, that was great.

2774
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 2: I want to another baseball game. Did I tell you

2775
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 2: the Gnats. If I went to Gnats versus O's the Orioles.

2776
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 2: Who do the Gnats have?

2777
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 5: No?

2778
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 1: The last time I was their Soto was their big star.

2779
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 2: They traded him to the San Diego. Now he's in

2780
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: the Yankees, fucking killing it.

2781
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Do they have anyone good at that?

2782
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 2: They don't have any major all stars?

2783
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: Do they have like Ryan Zimmerman?

2784
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 2: And they got a bunch of like young guys, young guys? Uh?

2785
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh? What about that picture Steven stack of it?

2786
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 2: Jasper?

2787
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Yes, you just started like a couple of years ago.

2788
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: He started in like twenty thirteen. He got thoracic outlet syndrome.

2789
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 2: He's done.

2790
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 1: How's that left handed Tommy John?

2791
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 2: It's like the new Tommy John, like you can't recover

2792
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 2: from its Thorassic back.

2793
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, look remember those MMA knockout memes that

2794
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 1: we feel so uncomfortable showing I don't feel uncomfortab they

2795
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 1: won't stop. Let's watch another money here. Look from UFC

2796
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 1: three hundred. What do you think about this?

2797
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Shit?

2798
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh he has the higher ground Anakin? Oh slice them

2799
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: in half? Do we endorse this publicly? I don't know.

2800
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's human.

2801
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the guys, but this is the

2802
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 2: Internet today.

2803
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well they didn't stop there. From Holloway get Chee,

2804
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sonic the Hedgehog. Look this is great.

2805
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 2: Now. Who is this weird motherfucker who's waiting.

2806
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: On the rings?

2807
02:01:58,320 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

2808
02:01:58,600 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 2: Boy?

2809
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 1: Is he? He looks like the Hamburglar, doesn't he?

2810
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 2: Hamburglar's got like covers his eyes like Batman and Robin?

2811
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: You know that's true? Is this one better than that

2812
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 1: than the Star Wars? All right, well we got one

2813
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 1: more for you from rosso Chevchenko.

2814
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 2: One not bad?

2815
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't move You didn't give you the movement

2816
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: you're looking for. Right, Well, Luke, here's your real edit

2817
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 1: of the week of this fantastic fight involving Darth Vayner.

2818
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good, Shot Dark for just sending a

2819
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 2: fat bitch flying.

2820
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 1: Look, whether you like it or not. Adrian Broner's back

2821
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 1: on a don King card coming up against Blair the

2822
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: Flair Cobbs. Did you see on the actual poster? Don

2823
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: King had the right if shows up? Well he did

2824
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 1: show up for the press or here's his mic drop moment.

2825
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 1: Models and models and make more money. Let's go Don,

2826
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: we got money to make Luke. I hate to say

2827
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 1: this about a man in his mid nineties, but is

2828
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 1: this weekend a don is? Is he alive?

2829
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 2: Look?

2830
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Or are we just like plugging him in?

2831
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 2: He's literally living on a sea pat machine and below.

2832
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's great. Well, Luke signed signs everywhere they're signs.

2833
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Remember the sign signed I get out of the sand.

2834
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 2: It's okay to ship your can we normally. I've been

2835
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 2: knowing that. I've been knowing that.

2836
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: By the time we normalize that. All right, let's go

2837
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: into the restaurant. Luke, you're looking for work.

2838
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 2: I could use a side hustle.

2839
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: Where do I apply?

2840
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:43,440
Speaker 4: Yes?

2841
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

2842
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 2: Now does that count on myself? I can help. I

2843
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 2: can help myself with that. I don't know if I can

2844
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 2: help another guy?

2845
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 1: That is gross. All right, it's time for MMA fighters

2846
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,879
Speaker 1: in the wild. In this week's mm A MVP Outside

2847
02:03:54,960 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 1: the Cage, michel Perira, Lukehu and Brazil helped rescue all

2848
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: of these animals during the midst of a pretty serious storm.

2849
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 2: Dude, very very very very very nice thing to do,

2850
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 2: and more than just that, a pretty I mean very commendable.

2851
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 1: Instantly became our favorite fighter from this. Seriously, dude, you'd

2852
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: be you know, this is like average Joe Art. That

2853
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: guy nurses animals back to health, you know what I mean? Yeah,

2854
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 1: for sure a real loving man.

2855
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 2: That guy.

2856
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: A fan of him, so shout out just the same.

2857
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's go over to armand Saruki and Luke. He's a

2858
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:26,200
Speaker 1: bit of an animal lover himself. Look at how he

2859
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: disciplined this gator.

2860
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:30,320
Speaker 2: Oh why are we killing gaters?

2861
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he killed them. I think he

2862
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: may just put him in a fireman's carry there.

2863
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: Dude, you do not put a gator like that on

2864
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 2: your shoulders.

2865
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 1: That's a lot maybe if you're a badass, Luke. More

2866
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: fighters in the wild. In front of the Eiffel Tower

2867
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 1: was one Patchy Mix and Tatiana Suarez. This was the

2868
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 1: day before Mix bought Mogol matt off a second time

2869
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: and he got down on one knee. Luke. They instantly

2870
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 1: vault up high in the MMA power rankings Couples list.

2871
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulations to them. Although what I

2872
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 2: will say is I don't love Paris that much.

2873
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 1: Forget Paris is what Billy Crystal once told us. Look

2874
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: remember that movie when his NBA referee.

2875
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 2: It was weird. It was like old about that.

2876
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, now Long Island. Look, you have a question related

2877
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 1: this power to this power couple for Luke, I want

2878
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: you to ask you.

2879
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 5: So I was saying that patchy mix, maybe if he

2880
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 5: lost to Magametov, which I think he did, could he

2881
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 5: become UFC champion before Tatiana given how inactive Tatiana is.

2882
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, I don't be wishing injury. He's gonna

2883
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:27,120
Speaker 2: make a move this year. I think this is the

2884
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 2: year straight up.

2885
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Does she beat Whaley?

2886
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

2887
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 1: Ah, Wayley can wrestle though, for sure.

2888
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong, Like it's a great fight,

2889
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 2: like anyone can win that.

2890
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2891
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2892
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 1: And finally MMA Fighters in the Wild adjacent here's Joe

2893
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 1: Rogan on his podcast What Suits. Yeah, I got a

2894
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: bunch of custom made suits because I can't wear regular suits.

2895
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't fit them. You know, there's two hundred pound

2896
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 2: five eight dudes. I mean there's a lot of two

2897
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 2: hundred pound five Yeah.

2898
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Joe's not one of them, though, Luke, Right now, that's

2899
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: what he's so so identified.

2900
02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, i've seen Joe in person. Is he two hundred pounds?

2901
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 2: That's not the baby stat in question, Luke, the way

2902
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 2: is not in question the five eight part.

2903
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 1: You just took that like his face value, like when like, oh,

2904
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: I got a girlfriend in the other county?

2905
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 2: Is he five eight? I don't think he's fine.

2906
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyson Ferry is not six ' nine. But

2907
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Joe Rogan ain't five A dude, what

2908
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 1: are we doing here?

2909
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:18,600
Speaker 2: He's probably not five?

2910
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh we got proofer. You know who's listened at five

2911
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: foot five? Rose nama unis.

2912
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably closer to five to seven. I think

2913
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 2: something like that.

2914
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Luke, he's closer to five to four if you look

2915
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 1: at this closely.

2916
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,840
Speaker 2: Okay, my wife is five four.

2917
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 1: He's taller than You're always defending this guy.

2918
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 2: No, no, I like the joke, but he's not five

2919
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 2: to four. That's not all right?

2920
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you like when comedians call him Joseph all the time?

2921
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 2: I think the worst thing that's ever happened to most

2922
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 2: podcast most comedians that they have podcasts.

2923
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh, they're gonna say read it. That's the worst thing

2924
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: they have in a comedians A few of them. All right,

2925
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 1: all right, let's go yes, more, it's more than one. Yeah,

2926
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: let's go to MMA action from over the weekend. Luke,

2927
02:06:54,760 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: here is Bellator Feathery Eve Landau Land do sorry land do, dude.

2928
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 1: This is maybe the great degree of difficulty on the

2929
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: celebration is through the room.

2930
02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 2: That is fantastic. I love this.

2931
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 1: He's break dancing on his dome. Dude.

2932
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he did great. He was going elbowed ahead.

2933
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh he's really dad. He p the spinning top right

2934
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: on the dome.

2935
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2936
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a ten out of ten right there.

2937
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: Damn. I love that. All right, let's go to Bantamwait,

2938
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:20,920
Speaker 1: Melissa Gatto in the UFC card Luke landing a jab

2939
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: to the boob to earn a t KO win. As

2940
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: referee Chris Tanioni explains what happened. He got hit in

2941
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:34,040
Speaker 1: the press. That's not an illegal shot, Chris explaining, because

2942
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 1: you had punched there. Look, should that be legal shot?

2943
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 1: Should that be a legal shot?

2944
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 2: In women's max, I have never thought about titty strikes.

2945
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 1: It was a straight knockout blow and by the way,

2946
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't the only one she landed. She landed a

2947
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 1: few of those jabs and crosses to the chest a

2948
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 1: couple of times. Her opponent what was her last name?

2949
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't have it here. Oh Tamaris Vidal was the

2950
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 1: fighter who took that. She covered up a couple of times. Wait,

2951
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 1: he's a gentleman. Refere Chris Coone is called a stop

2952
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: to this contest. You can kill the thirty seven seconds

2953
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: of round number three, declared the winner by chick A Molissa.

2954
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:09,840
Speaker 4: So.

2955
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 1: I showed that part to show you that she actually

2956
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:14,120
Speaker 1: brought the boob ice pack to the post five. I mean,

2957
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 1: should we just be progressive on this and stop being

2958
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 1: uh uh, you know, stop doing shit jokes and and

2959
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 1: whoopy peepe. I mean there was a ko to the

2960
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 1: boob blooke. This is like a monumental woman. I mean

2961
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 1: we we we always Oh did you see that? Sound

2962
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 1: like it's like that's only the third cell you love

2963
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 1: stretch in history. Loose, that's the first tattoo on.

2964
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 2: Tit from a marslo We's a good middle eight. It's

2965
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 2: like that scene from Kingpin where Woody Harrelson aka Roy

2966
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 2: Munson is punching the titties of what's her name, Vanessa?

2967
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 2: What's her name?

2968
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 1: Not not the landlord that did no, no, no, no Vanessa.

2969
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: Wait, you really knock something loose? Months Hey, you know

2970
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 2: what you know what the best line from that movie is, Hey, Roy,

2971
02:08:55,400 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 2: can you get sick drinking piss? Yes, even if it's

2972
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 2: your own great line.

2973
02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, Luke kicking off the UFC card was friend of

2974
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 1: the program in a way. But that's a Demopolis who

2975
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:11,760
Speaker 1: actually had a really good win split decision over Emily Ducody.

2976
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 1: To continue her shriek of jumping in the arms postfight,

2977
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:17,800
Speaker 1: this time she got Paul Felder, are you sick of

2978
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 1: this movie yet?

2979
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 2: Or are we?

2980
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 4: Are?

2981
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: We still good with it?

2982
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: Again? I didn't watch this card but for the reason

2983
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 2: that I had to for my job, so I just

2984
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 2: don't care.

2985
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much. And to close on MMA

2986
02:09:28,280 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 1: recap of the week, we mentioned Cedric Doombay had the

2987
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 1: crowd eating out of the palm of his hand. Listen

2988
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 1: to the crowd during this finish to intercept any of

2989
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: that shoreward movement. Smart smart I noticed that strategically turn

2990
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 1: to ask him turn from Junos there was been me

2991
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 1: and I guess we're gonna act like we didn't. We're

2992
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna lean out the head.

2993
02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 2: Yes, right, they can't do there's nothing they can do

2994
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 2: to have an experience like that in the States, not

2995
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 2: in the Apex, dude, not anywhere. PFL can't do that

2996
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 2: anywhere in the United States. No, but in France they

2997
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 2: can do that. Like, just stay there.

2998
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 1: What do you think about Anthony Pettis getting announced as

2999
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 1: his next opponent on a fall pay per view?

3000
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 2: But I like it? I mean the fall paper view.

3001
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but like that fight. I like it.

3002
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: What if it's in Ghanu versus Hennen Fajita in the

3003
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 1: main event?

3004
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 2: Fine, not for pay per view, but fine.

3005
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 1: It has to be a pay per view from Gano's fighting.

3006
02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 2: Not I mean, I'm just saying I don't I don't

3007
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 2: want it to be Okay, right.

3008
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, let's go to some paper art era.

3009
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 1: What do we got going on? Do you ever used

3010
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: to do this? You write a little picture on the

3011
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:46,000
Speaker 1: corner and then you flip it and it it animates, Luke,

3012
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 1: and we've reached climax. There we go.

3013
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 2: I had a buddy of mine who could program a

3014
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 2: cartoon of him banging one of our math teachers on

3015
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:59,840
Speaker 2: his TI eighty five. He programmed every picture and then

3016
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 2: like essentially a cartoon of it into his into his calculator.

3017
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 1: And then you graduated by going to the Marines and

3018
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 1: learned how to run trains. This is a great backstory here.

3019
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to your T shirts of the week, Luke,

3020
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: always a friendly segment.

3021
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 2: I eat passy like fat kids eat cake and this

3022
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 2: guy looks like your dentist. All right, it's a little much.

3023
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: That is that is a little much? Did I play it?

3024
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Did you? I skip one?

3025
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 2: Luke?

3026
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 1: You want to play it? I don't even think I

3027
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:31,480
Speaker 1: put this in there.

3028
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck that is.

3029
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't put that in there. That was a mistake.

3030
02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, was it?

3031
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's okay. We have one more T shirt

3032
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 1: of the week, Luke, does this win Top Honors? The

3033
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 1: wrong one?

3034
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

3035
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess we're falling apart here. No other T shirt

3036
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 1: of the week involves a saddle and a case. All right,

3037
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:56,920
Speaker 1: there we go, Luke. We're gonna just keep moving on here.

3038
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to the what happened this weekend in boxing?

3039
02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 1: Lukeane was on fire with Usik winning Usk in the

3040
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: locker room after beating Fury. Turned on Top Rank on

3041
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 1: ESPN to watch Dennis Barincik win the vacant lightweight title

3042
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: over Emmanuel Navarete, who was going for titles in four

3043
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,320
Speaker 1: weight classes. Upset, dude, big upset. But how about Usik

3044
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 1: representing there, dude for the yellow How.

3045
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 2: About those guys all in the twenty thirteen Ukrainian national

3046
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 2: team Vosdik, Loma, Baron Chick and Usik. Amazing All those

3047
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 2: guys were on the same team at the same time.

3048
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 1: Big time, and then you yeah, and then Loma had

3049
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:33,840
Speaker 1: the big win just a couple of weeks back. What

3050
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 1: a turn for Ukraine there, Luke in the top rank

3051
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 1: co main event. How about this Brian Nortman junior getting

3052
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 1: the upset win over Giovanni Sentian and their interim Walter

3053
02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: whit title bout. But look at the brutal nature of

3054
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 1: this finish. Santian took incredible punishment and route to this stoppage.

3055
02:12:54,600 --> 02:13:04,440
Speaker 2: Hook uppercut all fuck me, yeah, oh god, this right

3056
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 2: hook ah Man stuck him damn.

3057
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:10,560
Speaker 1: And look at the Look at the post right there,

3058
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:11,520
Speaker 1: Look at the pose.

3059
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 2: Luke, he's outside the club.

3060
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 1: We mentioned Dennis Barren Chick in the main event beating

3061
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:18,760
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Navarate, so he called his shot afterwards.

3062
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 2: Stevenson, maybe gishon Davis Murata.

3063
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't give you a fuck.

3064
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 6: Whoa.

3065
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 1: We apologize for the language, obviously, but we gotta get

3066
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 1: him on the show after that, you know what I mean.

3067
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 2: By the way, finally someone's calling off Stevenson. You don't

3068
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:37,640
Speaker 2: hear that.

3069
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 11: I know.

3070
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 1: By the way, three of the four lightweight champions at

3071
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: the moment, Barentchick is the fourth, Loma, Tank Davis and Stevenson.

3072
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

3073
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: Not bad. At one thirty five we talked about all

3074
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,880
Speaker 1: the names moving up to one forty. Not bad. Also

3075
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:54,960
Speaker 1: in boxing this week, we had a call out only

3076
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Let's listen to the videotape. What

3077
02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:57,920
Speaker 1: the hell's going on here?

3078
02:13:58,640 --> 02:13:59,080
Speaker 6: All right?

3079
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 4: Anderson's Silva. I've been training, I'm ready June fifteenth. I'll

3080
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 4: see you at fight night in Brazil, y'all June fifteenth.

3081
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 4: Let's go Anderson Silva me you, let's make it happen.

3082
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:22,760
Speaker 4: What Terry Crews here Brazil?

3083
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 1: So look, that's Terry Crews from America's got talent.

3084
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 2: Anderson America's got nipples.

3085
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anderson then put out a video com seemingly confirming it.

3086
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:39,440
Speaker 1: But then overnight it's gonna be Anderson Silva boxing chill

3087
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 1: Son in June fifteenth in Brazil to be Silva's Brazil

3088
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:47,120
Speaker 1: retirement fight. He's apparently gonna fight on after that. What

3089
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 1: are we doing here, dude? I don't want to see

3090
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:50,560
Speaker 1: Jail back at the Luxer again, you know what I mean? Like,

3091
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 1: I want to close that chapter in his career. Why

3092
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 1: is he doing that?

3093
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:55,320
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I don't care at all, like

3094
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:56,320
Speaker 2: in a negative.

3095
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:57,520
Speaker 1: Way, I mean unless I mean, if it was a

3096
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,480
Speaker 1: grappling match, you'd have a shot here. But he's gonna

3097
02:14:59,480 --> 02:15:01,000
Speaker 1: get peace. Stop, Luke, Come.

3098
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 2: On, dude, you think Jail doesn't know this?

3099
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:04,720
Speaker 1: Okay? Then why do we roll out terry crews? What

3100
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:05,280
Speaker 1: is that about?

3101
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 2: I don't get I mean, that was a dumb joke.

3102
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:08,080
Speaker 2: If that was supposed to be a joke, then they

3103
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:09,280
Speaker 2: fucked that one out because it sucked.

3104
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Luke, white chicks are gonna white. So

3105
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,440
Speaker 1: let's transition here. We got a few more before we

3106
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:14,160
Speaker 1: close up shop.

3107
02:15:15,640 --> 02:15:22,840
Speaker 2: Oh bitch, oh bitch, we're you're not good. Yeah.

3108
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:25,160
Speaker 1: I did it all for the Graham and there you go.

3109
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 1: All right. I would have done it all for the

3110
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 1: Nookie in that situation, Luke.

3111
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:29,839
Speaker 2: A woman in distress.

3112
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here. You ever you ever seen

3113
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:34,200
Speaker 1: drunk chicks try to navigate stairs by the way. I

3114
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 1: fell exactly like this one day because I was pissed drunk,

3115
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 1: I walked away from them. You know I would have

3116
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:40,360
Speaker 1: been paralyzed if this happens sober.

3117
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:48,000
Speaker 2: Holy fucking shit, dude, you wow, Oh my god.

3118
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,880
Speaker 1: She got eliminated from the Royal Rumble like that.

3119
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 2: Luke.

3120
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:53,200
Speaker 1: There, Once you go over, you you don't come back. Okay,

3121
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:55,280
Speaker 1: we got one more from the gym here. You gotta

3122
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 1: be careful when you're waiting on the machine.

3123
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:59,480
Speaker 2: All right, got some pec decks and oh yeah, some

3124
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:02,600
Speaker 2: butterfly not butterfly, but okay, he's holding on too it

3125
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 2: because he's a puss.

3126
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh how would you do? Apologize or just leave? I'll

3127
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:12,400
Speaker 1: probably just leave in that situation, right.

3128
02:16:12,760 --> 02:16:15,440
Speaker 2: Get dude? I mean, first of all, don't stand on

3129
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 2: your fucking phone. Oh got wow.

3130
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:21,880
Speaker 1: Tough week for white chicks. All right, let's go to

3131
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:25,680
Speaker 1: the fountain here, Luke, don't piss in the fountain. Don't

3132
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:27,880
Speaker 1: do it? Do you ever expect for this guy?

3133
02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:33,359
Speaker 2: Luke? Now I do drink your piss, You fucking sick bastard.

3134
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 1: Alright, Well it's time for Dixon the Wild here. You

3135
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. They're like hidden Mickey's Luke, when you're

3136
02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 1: at disney World, you know you're trying to find out

3137
02:16:41,959 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 1: find them in designs on the wall.

3138
02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:46,800
Speaker 2: You can't believe this guy is uh, this guy's white.

3139
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe.

3140
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:49,160
Speaker 1: What would you do if your barber charge you one

3141
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in your house for that?

3142
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:52,120
Speaker 2: Luke? Well, the good news is you can just shave

3143
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:53,560
Speaker 2: it off. But I wouldn't pay him.

3144
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 1: You ever go on a cruise and they turned the

3145
02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:58,080
Speaker 1: towels into like farm animals.

3146
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:00,920
Speaker 2: I've never been on a cruise because I'm not dumb ty.

3147
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:06,360
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, well this is my type of cruise, Luke.

3148
02:17:06,400 --> 02:17:12,119
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? They always say those

3149
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,680
Speaker 1: sheets are so dirty, don't trust them, right that?

3150
02:17:14,959 --> 02:17:15,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

3151
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:15,880
Speaker 8: Healthy?

3152
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:20,080
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, Mikey sent me this. Remember Mikey, you're

3153
02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:21,920
Speaker 1: still working on the show. We love that guy, Mikey.

3154
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:23,280
Speaker 1: He sent this to me.

3155
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:26,600
Speaker 2: Gonna break it with his dog.

3156
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something there. All right, there's a scene now

3157
02:17:33,360 --> 02:17:35,000
Speaker 1: that you can see the little man behind the curtain

3158
02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:39,520
Speaker 1: right there, right pushing the rod. That's yeah, all right, Well, look,

3159
02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:41,280
Speaker 1: I got one more for you here. I don't know

3160
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:43,320
Speaker 1: how to describe this, so let's just watch it.

3161
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:48,959
Speaker 5: Fine fall see.

3162
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh you hear in the countdown there it is. That's

3163
02:18:03,080 --> 02:18:03,960
Speaker 1: your shit of the week.

3164
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 2: That was pretty good. That was actually good. I think

3165
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:07,959
Speaker 2: this batch may have been better than last week. I

3166
02:18:07,959 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 2: absolutely that the two pieces of breaking news very quickly.

3167
02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:11,200
Speaker 1: I hope it's good.

3168
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 2: Tiffy Ma Lopez will defend his WBO and Ring Magazine

3169
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:18,200
Speaker 2: Junior worlsweight titles against Steve Claggett on Saturday, June twenty ninth.

3170
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 1: We knew about that. Not a great fight, but that's.

3171
02:18:20,320 --> 02:18:24,160
Speaker 2: Why Miami, I believe. And then UFC assigned a new

3172
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 2: deal to return to Saudi Arabia quote for almost double

3173
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 2: the rights fee end quote for a second event after

3174
02:18:29,280 --> 02:18:33,359
Speaker 2: June twenty second, per TKO President PARTI KIO president Mark Shapiro.

3175
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:36,480
Speaker 2: The first deal was twenty million, so almost forty million

3176
02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:37,199
Speaker 2: to return.

3177
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:39,480
Speaker 1: To still a deal considering the ww It's fifty five

3178
02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:42,400
Speaker 1: million per show out there. So it is true that

3179
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 1: the UFC they came up short in their initial offering

3180
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:47,199
Speaker 1: of a fight night card.

3181
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:49,280
Speaker 2: They went back to the well for the reported it

3182
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:50,800
Speaker 2: and they were all like, oh, that's bullshit.

3183
02:18:51,959 --> 02:18:53,480
Speaker 1: It turns out, But do you think it was strategic

3184
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 1: from the UFC to start low and make them pay

3185
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:56,120
Speaker 1: for it?

3186
02:18:56,200 --> 02:18:58,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably get more out of it.

3187
02:18:58,120 --> 02:18:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there we go. I hope you got more

3188
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 1: out of this show. Two hours plus in the hole.

3189
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 2: We got to go.

3190
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 1: We do have to go. That's Luke Thomas. My name

3191
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell. You can like and subscribe what you've

3192
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:07,600
Speaker 1: seen here. Hopefully you do.

3193
02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:10,080
Speaker 2: Hey, check out my USK breakdown YouTube dot com slash

3194
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:10,720
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas.

3195
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:12,840
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that channel, but I'm sure. I'm

3196
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:15,640
Speaker 1: just ensure. Is it free or is it like really expensive?

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Speaker 1: On third That one is free on Thursdays?

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Speaker 2: That going on? Hey, don't fuck with my livelihood?

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Speaker 1: All right, the Twoki's got to wear shoes. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: Long Island Luke ken In the background, there are sound guy.

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Speaker 1: How about Nay Dear. I love these guys, right, Luke,

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Speaker 1: let's go shout out to John Skipper. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're out of here. That's all I got for you. Yeah,