1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: So when you hate Donald Trump and you try to 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: take all of his property, and then you try to 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: put him in financial ruin, you try to get him 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: a file for bankruptcy, you try to lock him up 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: and it's not really working. And then you see Joe 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Biden dropping in the polls to an all time new low. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: What do you do next? 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Well, we now know what the left is going to 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: do next, and that is the judge in the New 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: York case is now saying he is holding Donald Trump 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: in quote criminal contempt for gag order violations and is 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: now threatening to put him in jail for a significant 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: amount of time. That, by the way, is what you 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: would refer to as a literal election interference. Now, this 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: New York County Judge one Merchant, has ruled that the 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: former president Trump quote violated the gag order during his trial, 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: holding him in criminal contempt and then saying jail time 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: for any further infractions. Now, the judge also ordered Trum 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: to remove the quote seven offending pose from his truth 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Social account. 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And it is further 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: ordered that the defendant removed the seven offending posts from 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: the defendant's true social account and two offending posts from 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: his campaign website by two fifteen on Tuesday, April the thirtieth. Now, 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: the judge had the authority to send Trump to jail 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: for up to thirty days for allegedly violating his gag order. 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: The Democratic Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg back down from 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: asking to judge to jail Trump for allegedly violating the order. 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: According to the court. 73 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Reporters, Trump appeared to call Alvin Bragg's bluff. Trump said 74 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: in April that it would be a great honor to 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: become a modern day Nelson Mandela in the clink for 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: speaking the truth about the judge. The gag order, by 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: the way, prevents Donald Trump, who's literally running for president 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: a former president, from making public comments about witnesses participating 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: in the trial council other than brag members of the 80 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: court's staff and the District attorney's staff, or the family 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: members of any council or staff member, if those statements 82 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: are made with the intent to materially interfere with counselor 83 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: staff's work on the case. It also encompasses jurors. Now 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: the gag order has to come off. Is what Trump 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: previously told reporters outside the Manhattan courthouse, saying, quote, people 86 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: are allowed to speak about me, and I have a 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: gag order. Just to show you how much more unfair 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: it is. He's right, by the way, because the star witness, 89 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, has the ability to go on any TV show, anywhere, 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: any interviews and rip the president. 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: And he is the quote main the most. 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: Important witness in this trial. So that guy can hammer Trump, 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: and Trump can't respond while he's running for president. 94 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Give me a break. 95 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: Quote Trump said, they can say anything they want. Trump 96 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: said about all. 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: His political foes. 98 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: They can continue to make up lies and everything else, 99 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: and they lie. They're real scum. But you know what, 100 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to speak. So why am I gagged 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: about telling the truth? Trump then asked, I'm only telling 102 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: the truth. They're not telling the truth. In fact, here's 103 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: a little bit more about what Donald Trump had to 104 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: say outside of the courtroom earlier today. 105 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: The whole thing is a hoax, All of overre hoaxes, 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: including the civil cases. They're controlled by the White House. 107 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: They're controlled by Democrat judges and prosecutes that will put 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: this specifically, they ate Trump and the people getting it. 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: That's why we just came out of New Emerson. Ball 110 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: just was released about two minutes ago, and I'm leading 111 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: by a lot in every swing state and leading in 112 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: the general election. And you saw the CNN call. I'm 113 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: sure they aren't too happy with it, but the CNN 114 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: poll was fantastic. 115 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: So we're here. 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: This is a hoax. This is a judges conflicted, badly, badly, 117 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: badly conflicted. I've never seen the judge helf conflicted and 118 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: giving us virtually no rulings. I'm not even allowed to 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: say advice and counsel. This is a new one to me. 120 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: Advice of counsel. 121 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: And you have a lawyer and the lawyer does something 122 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: or advises you in something, you say advice and counsel. 123 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: He said, you're not allowed to say that, and so 124 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: you'll all figure it out. But I think the public 125 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: has figured it out because the poll numbers are the highest. 126 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: They've ever been. 127 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: The President making it clear this is a hoax. 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I think the public has figured it out because the 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: poll numbers are the highest they've ever been. And by 130 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: the way, I do think people are figuring out that 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: this is a hoax. But Democrats understand that if Trump 132 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: can't talk, then they can change the narrative, and that 133 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: is exactly what they are trying to do. I also 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: believe that the president's poll numbers have changed because the 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: American people. 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: Have no faith in Joe Biden. 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: They have no faith in what he's doing with our economy, 138 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and they understand just how bad things actually are. Now, 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: let's go back real quick to Alvin Bragg, Who's the 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: guy who basically the Trump called his bluff saying, all right, 141 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: you want to put me in jail, put me in jail. 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Bragg is a guy that ran off of going after 143 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Bragg is a guy that apparently has raised 144 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: at least eight hundred thousand dollars off of indicting Donald Trump. 145 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: And Bragg is the guy that charged Trump with thirty 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: four felonies in the criminal case concerning alleged election interference, 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: and a legal retainer paid to Michael Cohen, who can 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. The trial is the first ever 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: ever criminal trial of a president of the United States, 150 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: and yes, Donald Trump could face serious jail time if 151 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: in fact he is convicted. 152 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Now, let me also tell you what. 153 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: The American people think about this. A majority now of 154 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Americans doubt that Trump's criminal trial will conclude with a 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: fair outcome. A new CNN poll that came out on 156 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: Friday found this increasing numbers of Americans see the criminal 157 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: trial of Trump as quote irrelevant to his fitness for reelection. 158 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: The CNM pull further found that while only thirteen percent 159 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: believe Trump is being treated the same as other criminal defendants, 160 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: only about one third of American adults believe Trump did 161 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: anything Let me say that again, only about one third 162 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: of American adults believe Trump did anything illegal regarding the case. 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: So that means even Democrats are now admitting, hey, we 164 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: know this is crap, and we know we're trying to 165 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: have him put in jail and shut him. 166 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: Up, and we understand what's going on here. Now. 167 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I also want to play for you something that Peter 168 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: Sweitzer said on his podcast. Peter Switzer said something interesting 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden's sinister but brilliant campaign strategy that is 170 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: in fact law fair, meaning you go after your political opponents, 171 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: you tie them up, maybe you put them in jail 172 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: during the campaign, which is exactly what we're witnessing right now. 173 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 174 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: So some very very interesting comments that Joe Biden made. 175 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 5: Of course, the White House corresponds dinner. You're trying to 176 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: be funny, you're trying to be humorous, but it often 177 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: offers an insider a glimpse into what people are really thinking. 178 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: We think that's the case with Joe Biden, because he 179 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 5: had some very interesting things to say about the legal 180 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: threats that Donald Trump is under. Right now, let's listen 181 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: to Joe Biden. 182 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 6: I had a great stretch since the State of the Union. Well, 183 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: Donald's had a few tough days lately, you might call 184 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 6: it stormy weather. What the hell Trump's so desperate. He 185 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 6: started reading those Bibles he's selling. Then he got to 186 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 6: the first commandment, you shall have no other gods before me. 187 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 6: That's when he put it down and said, this book's 188 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 6: not for me. 189 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: So attempted humor there, I mean, got some chuckles course 190 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: from the media, but there was that little twist about 191 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: the tough days and a little twist about the legal 192 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 5: threat that Donald Trump is under. And we're going to 193 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 5: talk about that today because our contention is and I 194 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: think the evidence is pretty clear, is that campaigns are 195 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: now changing dramatically because what you are seeing is law 196 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: fare in action. Used to be in the old days, 197 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: you ran for president, you needed a polster, you needed 198 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: political consultants. It seems like now, beginning in the year 199 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: of Donald Trump, you also need to hire a bunch 200 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 5: of lawyers because the Biden administration has clearly come for 201 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. And we're going to lay out today the 202 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: timeline of how that's actually happened. 203 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 7: It's interesting to think about this morphine to your point 204 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 7: of things that used to be done by the campaign, 205 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 7: the Biden administration is now asking the federal government to perform. 206 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 7: We did a podcast several weeks ago where we said 207 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 7: that every agency within the federal government is now being 208 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 7: weaponized as a political turnout the vote vote operation, and 209 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 7: that is a thing that used to be the job 210 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 7: of a campaign, but now it's the Department of Education 211 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 7: is saying, hey, you will give you pel grants, but 212 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 7: you need to be out registering people to vote. And 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 7: they're targeting voting populations that would disproportionately vote for a 214 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 7: Democratic candidate, which happens to be the same president. That's problematic. 215 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 7: It's a departure from how things have done before. And 216 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 7: we've talked about it, and you're now seeing the exact 217 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 7: same thing happen. To your point, with the Department of Justice, 218 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 7: you have aspects of the federal government essentially operating as 219 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 7: another arm of the Biden campaign. 220 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: And it's got to think very troubling. 221 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 7: It projects in a very troubling way moving forward, because 222 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 7: if this is how it's going to be, and everyone's 223 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 7: kind of okay with because Donald Trump, what happens if 224 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 7: it's not Donald Trump, or if it's Donald Trump in charge? 225 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, in other words, you're saying you can 226 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: take the criminal justice system and you can weaponize it. 227 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: And this is a strategy known as lawfair, and it 228 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 5: started in the early two thousands. It's really interesting if 229 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: you see how this transition has taken place. It started 230 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 5: in the early two thousand. Lawfair was this new idea, 231 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: we are going to use the legal system of the 232 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: United States and the international legal system to go after 233 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: bad guys like terrorists, like Saddam Hussein, like the Russian government, 234 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: and we are going to weaponize the legal system to 235 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: try to seize their assets, to tie them up in court. 236 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: What's happened, our contention is going to be is it 237 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 5: has now been turned on domestic political opponents that the 238 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: Biden administration has said, Hey, it worked kind of well 239 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: against al Qaeda, it worked pretty well against Saddam Hussein, 240 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: it worked pretty well against Vladimir Putin. 241 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: Tie them up. 242 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: We're maybe going to apply this domestically in the United 243 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 5: States against Donald Trump. But I think there's pretty ample 244 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 5: evidence that there is coordination and cooperation between the Biden 245 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: administration and these prosecutions that appear to be quote unquote 246 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: randomly occurring around the country. 247 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: Well, let's just dive into a little bit of this. 248 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: And I played Peter. I like Peter a lot. Peter 249 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: is one hell of an author. He writes some really 250 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: good books about the bio crime family. His point here 251 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: that he's making, I think is spot on. And what 252 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: he's saying is you have a government that would weaponize 253 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: the deep state to go after al Qaeda, and it 254 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: works so well that they're like, all right, maybe we 255 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: should just do the same exact thing against our political opponent. 256 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: The opponent has moved from Osama bin. 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: Laden right too. 258 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Now it's like, all right, well, I mean let's make 259 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: it Donald Trump. It works really well. That's our biggest opponent. 260 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: That's who we hate. That's who we want to go after, 261 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: So let's go after them. The Government, by the Way, 262 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: Accountability Institute constructed a timeline of events, which is really important. 263 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: It actually shows the extent of the White House's involvement 264 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and these supposedly independent prosecutions. 265 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: It's really clear. 266 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,119 Speaker 1: Now that Biden has weaponized the federal agencies for democratic 267 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: voter turnout efforts, that he's used taxpayer dollars on a 268 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: political persecution that is a blatant effort to attack and 269 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: hobble to hamstring to cut the knees out from his 270 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: political opponent. 271 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: You'll look at Fanny Willis, for example. 272 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: The Fulton County prosecutor that was prosecuting Trump and Georgia 273 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: on election interference charges. She even showed up at the 274 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: White House correspondence to her last week. She corruptly hired 275 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: her boyfriend Nathan Wade, at a cost of more than 276 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to handle the 277 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: daily work of that case, and he had never once. 278 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: Prosecuted a case like this. 279 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: We know that Wade made not one but two trips 280 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: of White House and may have twenty twenty two and 281 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: again in November of the same year for meetings and 282 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: not with the Department of Justice officials, but with staff 283 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: at the White House Council's office. Wade was later forced, 284 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: as you noticed, stepped down from that job by a 285 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: judge because of the corruption. Then you look at April 286 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the Biden White House leaked a story 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,119 Speaker 1: on purpose to The New York Times showing Biden confided 288 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: in his inner circle it's frustration with the Attorney General 289 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland for not throwing the book at Trump. Four 290 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: months later, Trump's Marlago residence was rated by the FBI 291 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: at Garland's direction. What's even more interesting is another incident 292 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: happened in December of twenty twenty two, when the number 293 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: three person at the Department of Justice in Washington, d C. 294 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Announced he was leaving the GoJ to take a job 295 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: with the Manhattan DA's office. 296 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: Number three. 297 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Okay, you're the third guy, You're the third top dude 298 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice in DC, and then you 299 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: announce I'm going to leave the DOJ. I'm gonna take 300 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: a job in the Manhattan DA's office. Are you kidding me? 301 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: While the Manhattan Day's Office does matter, This was a 302 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: massive step down, Witzer said, for them, especially for the 303 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: third highest ranking DOJ official. Why make the move other 304 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: than that Joe Biden wanted direct input into the New 305 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: York prosecution. And then two other members of the New 306 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: York prosecutor's team were involved in the Trump organization's previous 307 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: course court case for conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying 308 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: business records that was also reported on. 309 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: By The Times. 310 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: Now, when you look at these three different people that 311 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: went to the Manhattan's DA's office, and one of them 312 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: is the third highest Department of Justice official, just understand 313 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: that one of these three would later deliver the prosecution's 314 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: opening statement and the Trump trial in Manhattan. And what 315 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer says this, this has all of the markings 316 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: they quote, fingerprints to the White House all over it. 317 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: The combined weight of all. 318 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: These prosecutions, particularly the New York came order preventing Trump 319 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: from leaving the state while the case is ongoing. 320 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: So a lot of people don't even realize that. 321 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: And you need to understand that Donald Trump can't leave 322 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: New York while this case is going on. 323 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: That is a order from the court. What does that 324 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: mean that means in one of. 325 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: The most least likely states for Donald Trump to win, right, 326 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: that's New York. He is stuck there until this thing 327 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: is over and can't go out and actually run his 328 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. That is the definition of election interference. 329 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: That is what this is. 330 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: It is the definition of election interference. All Right, You're 331 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: stuck in a state when there's a bunch of other 332 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: states you need to be going to when you're running 333 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: for president. It also gives your opponent, Joe Biden, the 334 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: ability to in essence run unopposed in these other states 335 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: as well, giving him another advantage. 336 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: And what Schweizer says to this quote constitutes. 337 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: A direct hobbling of Trump's ability to campaign for president 338 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: and gain vast amounts of earned media with as well 339 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: attended rallies across the country. This is a sinister but 340 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: brilliant strategy, as Sweitzer noted, because even if Trump were 341 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: to win all of the cases, it still forces him 342 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: to spend tens of millions of dollars to fight them 343 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: all and it gets them stuck in court. 344 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: So what does that mean. 345 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: This is a classic aim of law fare, and it's 346 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: being done with taxpayers dollars, right, All of this is 347 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: costing you money. Every bit of this is costing you money. 348 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: The Biden administration is using federal agencies all right. On 349 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: top of that, the stoke voter turnout among targeted Democratic voters. 350 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: We know that. 351 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: So if you look at what's going on now with 352 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: your dollars and with your government, this is it. Whether 353 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: it's the insanity on these college campuses being funded by 354 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the left, whether it's going after the president of United 355 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: States of America, former President, I should say, Donald Trump, 356 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: they're using your tax dours to go after him, to 357 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: prosecute him, to attack him. 358 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: I am telling you this better backfire. 359 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: We better hunker down, and we better remind people that 360 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: this is exactly what this judge has been directed to do. 361 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: I would argue from the Biden administration, with all of 362 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: these prosecutors taking massive emotions to come there and to 363 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: go after Trump, because there will be a payday for 364 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: them down the road. There will be a hey, well done, 365 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: you good soldier. Come back to DC and I'm giving 366 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you a bigger job. That is what is going to 367 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: happen with all of this. And again it is Donald Trump. 368 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the only one in all of this 369 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: that can't talk. The key witness can talk, can do 370 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: as many interviews as he wants to. We know that, 371 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: and it is incredibly frustrating to witness this happen. Right now. 372 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Mike Davis had to say. 373 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: This was on He's the founder and president of the 374 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Article three project, and this is what he had to 375 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: say about the president's gag order and what it means. 376 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: This is Biden driven election interference and lawfare, and there's 377 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 4: going to there are going to be severe legal, political, 378 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: and financial consequences. 379 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: And it includes not only the people. 380 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: In the governments in the Biden Justice Department, Fulton County 381 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: DA's office, Big Tish's office in New York, the Age, 382 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: Alvin Bragg's office in Manhattan, that dumb prosecutor out in Arizona, 383 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: the Arizona Age, whoever that new woman is out there 384 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 4: who stole the election from Aid by disenfranchising voters on 385 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: election date. It's also going to include these washed up 386 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: lawyers and judges on the outside are colluding with these 387 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: government officials like Andrew Weisman and many others to run 388 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: this lawfair. This is a criminal conspiracy, guys, lawyer up. 389 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: It's a criminal conspiracy. I can't disagree with what he's 390 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: saying there, I really can't. I think it's actually incredibly 391 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: accurate what he is saying, because this is all a 392 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy to handcuff Donald Trump from the very beginning. It's 393 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: what Trump said earlier about this, right, he said, this 394 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: is a hoax. And I think the public has figured out. 395 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: I hope they have. I really, really, really really. 396 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: Do something else. 397 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: By the way I want you to hear is how 398 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: MSNBC and even the Washington Post columnist Jamison what they 399 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: had to say about Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen can go 400 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: out there say what everyone's say, do whatever he wants 401 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: to do. 402 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: He's a star witness, right He's a. 403 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: Convicted a guy that's convicted of lying, and the entire 404 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: case revolves around him. Listen to what MSNBC had to 405 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: say about him. It's very interesting. 406 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 8: Donald Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen has been billed as 407 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 8: a star witness of the hush money trial, but clearly 408 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 8: he's been ignoring rule number one. Save your best stuff 409 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 8: for the stand and don't play into the defense's best 410 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 8: arguments against you. For example, he promised on X on 411 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 8: April twenty fourth that he will cease posting about Trump 412 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 8: on x or on his podcast, something clearly prosecutors would 413 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 8: like him to stop doing. But apparently that did not 414 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 8: include his TikTok Live because here he was last night 415 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 8: when I put out. 416 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 9: That tweet that turned around and said that I was 417 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 9: not going to discuss anything to do with the trial 418 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 9: or my former Employloyer or anything like that. 419 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: And I think I've lived up to that. 420 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 9: The Maga, the mega morons, hook line and Sinker. 421 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: If mild Trump told. 422 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 9: Them one plus one equals three, they will fight you, too, 423 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 9: thin nail. 424 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing, too, right. Those hats are hideous. 425 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, no, no, And I'm not saying it. 426 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 9: Other people it was like, oh my god, everything about Hey, that's. 427 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: That's not true. 428 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 9: It's not true. 429 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: It's not true at all. I am just saying. 430 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 9: That they are not the kind of hats that you. 431 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: Wear to I don't even know what. I don't even 432 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: know how to describe them. 433 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 9: They're with the with the with the string that goes 434 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 9: across the top of it. 435 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it's an ugly hat. 436 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 9: It has the string, a hat as his red as 437 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 9: his red gold sneakers are. I mean, you know, the 438 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 9: sneakers are ugly too. 439 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 8: I want to bring in Washington Post staff writer Peter Jamison, 440 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 8: who just wrote an extensive piece on Cohen and Jeremysland is. 441 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: Back with us. 442 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 8: I'm going to start with you, Peter, because you did 443 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 8: such a deep dive. So here's a guy who says, 444 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 8: I'm not going to talk about this on X I'm 445 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 8: not going to talk about Donald Trump on my podcast, 446 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 8: and yet to raise money and if people are not 447 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 8: familiar with that live version of TikTok, people can post 448 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 8: emojis and he makes money off of it. So that's 449 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: what all that stuff is that's popping up. But is 450 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 8: this kind of classic Michael Cohen. 451 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 10: I mean, look, Michael Cohen is making a strong case 452 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 10: for himself being the most irrepressibly voluble star witness in 453 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 10: history at this point. I mean, he's you know, he's 454 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 10: written two memoirs on his experiences with former President Donald Trump. 455 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 10: He's hosted a very popular podcast actually has had a 456 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 10: number of celebrities on to both you know, talk about 457 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 10: his personal journey working for Trump and then turning against him, 458 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 10: and also his broader thoughts on Trump and the political 459 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 10: movement he leads. And I think this is the sense 460 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 10: classic Michael Cohen. I mean, he's been very chatty in 461 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 10: a way that I'm sure has given prosecutors a magic 462 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 10: at various moments about the things that he you know, 463 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 10: directly or indirectly, the things he will be addressing when 464 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 10: he takes the stand. 465 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: In this trial. 466 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: You listen to the way that he just him this 467 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: guy's out there making money because of this court case. 468 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: He's getting to do and say whatever he wants, and 469 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: no one's telling him to shut up. And he's a 470 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: star witness that's gonna have to testify against Donald Trump, 471 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: like he's the star witness. If you need any more 472 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: examples than that of just how much of a witch 473 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: hunt this is, I'm sorry, you're a special kind of 474 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: stupid if you still don't see it. You look at 475 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: all of this and they act like all these cases 476 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: are somehow independent, they're not. This is all perfectly orchestrated 477 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: by the White House. It is all perfect perfectly orchestrated 478 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: by a group of prosecutors who were at the DJ 479 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: who then said, all right, we got to get out 480 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: of here. We gotta go help make these cases. We 481 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: got to go prosecute. We gotta keep him and force 482 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: him to stay, right, force. 483 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: Him to stay. 484 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta, we gotta re really, really, really 485 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: really really force him to stay in New York so 486 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: that you can't go out there in campaign. And this 487 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: is going to be amazing, it's going to be brilliant. 488 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna hamstring him, he won't be able to do events, 489 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna maybe even put him in jail. 490 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: And the majority of Americans, even Democrats, believe that this 491 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: is like total crap. 492 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: But remember, you can believe. 493 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: It's total crap if you're a Democrat and they're still 494 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: going to vote against him. That's the whole point here, 495 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: that's the whole ballgame. Make sure you share this podcast 496 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: please with your family and your friends. 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