WEBVTT - 02/14/22 DPS Hour 1 Ross Tucker 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.680 Sports Radio. You're out here about what you want your 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.280 Dan Patrick Well, good news. He goes everywhere with If 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.000 you missed the show, you can podcast it. If you 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.720 want to see the show, just go to Peacock and 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.479 we stream it live every weekday. Watch past episodes too. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.520 The Dan Patrick Show available anywhere you are, anywhere you 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:35.920 want it. I would love to pick the Bengal h 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.440 long count Joe has the ball dropped back to the throne. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.360 But I'd be picking the Bengals just because I want 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.040 the city of Cincinnati. Aaron Donald got there. Donald, take 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.279 this hellt off in celebration. 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Everybody 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.480 back on the Home Man, Cave Dan and the Dance 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.959 Dan Patrick Show as we always do every Monday, Best 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.160 and Worst of the weekend, which is saw that you liked, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.880 you didn't like, dials up, email, tweet, all the above. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.959 Say good morning to Peacock, our streaming partner and also 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.800 the radio affiliates around the country. iHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.600 and we'll recap what we saw yesterday with the help 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.440 of Tony Basselli who was going into the Hall of Fame, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.240 Carson Palmer, Ryan Clark and the Mothership. Our good buddy 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.760 Ross Tucker will stop by as well. Play of the Day, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.800 stat of the Day poll question. Seaton is in the 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.360 back row today, Marvin in the front row. Fritzie has 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.200 got his damn three piece suit on today. But we 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.880 found out that it's not a three piece suit. No, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.840 it's a long sleeve shirt, not a vest. And the 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.720 guy thought that maybe it was too dark in the 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.080 gala that I was at, and he just decided to 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.240 call me three piece. But I found that I couldn't 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.440 close it on the waist. They found some twine or 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.120 wire in the back room. Guys so that I can 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.760 close these pants and uh, there we are, Okay. I'm 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.359 just shocked that you would have something that's almost thirty 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.800 years old and you can't fit into it. It's seaton. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.600 The pants were actually baggy, and so I don't know 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.640 how it fit me in the first place. So the 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.760 woman that sold it to me in Laguna Beach convinced 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.560 me that it was a good fit because there's more 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.440 room than you would think for something when I was 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.960 like twenty three, twenty four years old. Yeah, seton right, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.760 because that's you know, like many of us say in 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.519 nineteen ninety four, I know I certainly waited a lot less. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.200 I was way thinner, right, So I'm going to assume 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.520 the same for Todd. And this thing is gigantic on 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.240 him now, and he's absolutely swimming in this even though 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.600 he may not be able to close the pants all 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.520 the way and he needs apparently some twine to hold 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.840 it together. He's he's swimming in parts of the suit. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.840 I'm very misproportioned. That gets because why would they be 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.040 so baggy on the legs, But I can't come close 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.839 to closing the waist. He still looks like today he's 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.320 wearing his big brother's suit. Like when you're twelve years 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.280 old and you're like, well I gotta squeeze into my 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.440 older brother's suit or whatever, and you're swimming in it. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.720 That's what toddle. I think the problem is I'm at 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.280 the weight of someone that would be like six to 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.640 four instead of like five ten and a half. And 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.239 that's why it becomes misproportioned. The damn three piece. Damn 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.560 three piece. All right, we'll come up with a poll question. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.200 I think Seaton's going to take the responsibilities. I thought 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.320 I was asking too much of Todd when we're in 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.320 Los Angeles. No, No, I'm just you. It was hard 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.920 for you to multitask. And this way I can give 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.360 Seaton responsibility of handling the poll question. Is that okay? 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.160 I mean it's not fine, it's up to you. Ultimately, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:54.560 I like them. If we all get a shot out 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.800 of that's good. Different voices. Yeah, he get sick of 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.960 me real quick. The Compact g LA proves it's not 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:02.920 the size of the SUV in the fight. It's the 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.880 size of the fight in the suv. Learn more about 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.480 the nimble and ready for anything Mercedes Ben's vehicle at 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:13.600 MBUSA Dot com Mercedes Benz the best or Nothing. Congrats 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.159 to the La Rams super Bowl champs. They certainly were 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.640 a big topic of conversation this past season because their 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.560 last first round pick came in twenty sixteen, sort of 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.200 breaks a lot of the traditional roster building tactics. Historically, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.600 team's value covet those draft picks. It makes sense because 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.760 the draft has always been a great way to land 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.560 superstar talent. The forty nine Ers with Bill Walsh did this, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.239 the Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson did this. But draft picks 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.440 come with a risk because it's hard to predict how 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.240 a college kid is going to perform in the NFL, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.760 and the Rams decided to take that risk out of 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.640 the equation. They opted for proven talents like Matthew Stafford, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.520 Von Miller, Odell Beckham Junior, and those editions paid off 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.080 last night. Stafford for three touchdowns, Miller had a pair 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.760 of sacks. And for years we've heard that the way 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.640 to build a championship team is through the draft, But 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.880 with the way LA season turned out, maybe there's a 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.359 new blueprint to win a Super Bowl. And I know 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.920 a lot of people have talked about who should have 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.160 been the MVP. Well, Cooper Cup got it. But that's 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.719 what you have to understand. I think with the votes 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.960 being tabulated before the two minute warning, Aaron Donald, to me, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.160 was the most valuable player last night, because if you're 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.360 going to make this argument, hey, the Bengals knew Cooper 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.440 Cup was going to get the ball. They double teamed him. Well, 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.560 Aaron Donald is double teamed on every play, sometimes triple 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.080 teamed on every play. And while he had a quiet 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.400 first half when they needed him the most, I thought 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:54.640 that those stops were a difference maker, and Cooper Cup 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.080 was wonderful, but I thought that Aaron Donald was the 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.400 most valuable player. Cooper Cup, you know, he did what 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.680 you wanted him to do with Odell Beckham not being 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.160 in there, even the fourth down run that he had, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.440 they went to him three consecutive times. He gets the 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:14.120 touchdown against Eli Apple, that's the game winner. But if you, 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.720 I think, if you voted when the game was over, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.040 now they have to do it. They have to do 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.359 it prior to the two minute warning because when we 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.600 get ready to hand out the super Bowl Trophy, we 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.880 have to know who the MVP is because they they're 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.760 going to be up there on the podium. Yeah, seeon 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.400 what is that? You're hitting it here a bit? But 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.279 what is that process of voting for the Super Bowl MVP? 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.599 How like, what are the mechanics of that? I know 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.680 it's okay before the two minutes you have to get 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.200 the votes in, but is there more detailed to that. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:46.440 I don't know who votes and how they tabulate the votes. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.560 I don't know that other than I was told that 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.039 they do it right before the two minute drill. Right, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.040 because from your side of things, if you're handing out 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.479 the trophy and you have to do all of that, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.200 you just need to know the name right, but not 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.440 necessarily the process leading up to it. But the two 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.760 minute warning, I shouldn't say two minute drill, the two 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.080 minute warning. You have to have the votes tabulated. And 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.279 I think, and look, either they could have done co 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.880 mbps now they know understand this. I didn't think Tom 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.119 Brady deserved it when the Patriots beat Seattle, it should 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.080 have been Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler was the most valuable 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:23.960 player because without him they don't win that Super Bowl? Um, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.640 who Brady? Even when they beat the Falcons? You could 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.240 have given that to James White couldn't you didn't he 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.480 have an unbelievable game there, especially late. Yeah, So you know, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.720 we we hand out that trophy and sometimes we don't 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.040 even realize Santonio Holmes won it, and people probably don't 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.400 realize that Ben to me should have won it because 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.760 he led the two minute drill. They beat Arizoni through 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.960 the ball in the perfect place for sent Tonio Homes 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:58.840 and Santonio Homes. Tantonio sam something Holmes? What's up Holmes? 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.560 All right, we'll come up with a poll question there, Seaton, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.880 you're on the spot. What do you have? Yeah, that's great, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.720 It's okay so far, I'm kicking around two. All right, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.920 Is that the last game we'll see Aaron Donald play? 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.760 Yes or no? That was a kind of a crazy 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:16.520 storyline that developed leading into the game. Yeah, And Rodney 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.240 Harrison is not an insider, he's a former player. But 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.160 he said it in a casual manner like, yeah, there's 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.880 a good chance that Aaron Donald will retire if they lose. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:31.600 He's only thirty years of age. But I who knows 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.200 what motivates or you know, he's going to be a 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.920 Hall of Famer. I think he's been in the league 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.280 eight years he's been first team All Pro, which is crazy. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.240 I mean, that's where that's where you find true greatness 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.040 when you're an All Pro, not a pro bowler All Pro. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.920 It was a casual mention, almost a throwaway line, and 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.440 then all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.880 and I was going to text Rodney, but you know 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.320 he was involved in the Super Bowl coverage just to 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.040 say do you realize what you just said or how 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.760 you said it? Not that he needed me to remind him, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.959 but it was so casual, and then everybody started to 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.120 run with it. It's like whoa Aaron Donald could retire? Yeah. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.520 I haven't looked at the contract situations for the Rams, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.600 but I wonder how much if you can retain most 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.720 of those players next year, how much that would weigh 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.920 into his decision. Well, you got Von Miller and you 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.280 got Odell Beckham. Stafford is going to be in his 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.760 contract year next year. He's only twenty three million dollars. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.559 I think you actually have a bargain with Matthew Stafford. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:39.120 Cooper Cups under contract. Ramsey I think is under contract, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.880 but you know they could lose a couple of those 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.600 players they want to keep Beckham still waiting to find 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.000 out if he tores ACL. I'm gonna guess he did. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.440 And then von Miller does he want to stay? I 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.120 think von Miller's thirty three. Yeah, Poe going in the 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.720 next season. The rams or fourteen million dollars over a cap. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.680 They think it might expand and it could be kind 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.480 of a wash, but they will have to do do a 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.840 little cutting. You start to look at the end results 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.640 of these playoff games, and I can't remember playoff games 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.520 that came down to the final seconds. Every playoff game 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.080 because if you look at the divisional round, the conference championship, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.840 and then the Super Bowl, the last seven games in 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.440 the playoffs were decided by seven points, three points, three points, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:29.280 three points, three points, three points, three points. Whoa stat 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.560 of the day? Best stat of the day? Stat of 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:37.240 the day? Here comes that? What stat of the day? 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.760 All right? All right, so we got our poll question, Well, 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.839 what other options do we have? Well you could actually 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.000 throw in there, was this the best NFL playoffs ever? 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.440 Just based on what you just laid out there, because 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.520 every game was pretty incredible. I think people would agree 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.960 because the recency bias, but I you know, it's not 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.040 if I start to do inventory here. I just can't 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.680 remember games that were this great that came down to 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.840 and I'm talking about great games, not necessarily it comes 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.160 down to, uh, you know, the final seconds and then 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.360 we go, boy, that that was a great game. Sometimes 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.880 great games aren't great games, they're just great finish to it. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.920 But you know, you had highs and lows, great moments, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.839 strange plays, great plays. That's what you want. You want, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.720 you want entertainment from start to finish. And I think 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.400 I thought the Rams were on the verge of blowing 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.079 them out and and it just kind of settled down 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.480 a little bit for the Bengals, and you know, you 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.400 had a couple of interceptions with Stafford, they had a 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.960 big touchdown pass to t Higgins. It felt like the 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.360 Bengals were never out of it, but it was never 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.240 they were in full control. I never got that feeling. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.680 And I thought the Rams were going to win, but 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.560 I was hoping the Bengals would. Just as I've said before, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.760 being from the city of Cincinnati, I thought I thought 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.719 the Rams were a better team star power, and that 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.480 the Stars did perform. You know, Aaron Donald showed why 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.600 he's a Hall of Famer Cooper Cup the best receiver 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.480 in the sport, even Odell Beckham with what he did 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.400 in his limited time in there, and even Stafford as well, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.760 because I think you got that feeling of could Stafford 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:23.520 throw this away? And he had three touchdown passes. That's 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.320 what you want, you know, Jayalen Ramsey got burned a 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.400 couple times, but you know the one was with t Higgins. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.280 That's controversial. Now that's not reviewable by the way they 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.840 review every touchdown. But you can't go back and say, hey, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.000 there was a face mask there, because you could do 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.040 that on any play. Hey there's a hold there. If 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.960 there's no flag, then you know the touchdown's going to stand. Yeah, see, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.599 I got one more for you. Then Joe Burrow and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.720 the Bengals will make it back to the Super Bowl 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.920 dot dot dot next year and the next two to 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.839 five years, six to ten years or never. Oh. This 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.040 is why Dan Marino was trending yesterday, spirited because Dan 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.720 Marino got to the Super Bowl. I believe that was 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.800 his second year in the league, and he threw for 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:13.160 forty eight touchdown passes that year. Hey, he'll get back, Well, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.720 he never got back. It's going to be difficult for 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.920 the Bengals to get back. You got to improve that 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.000 offensive line. They got money to spend. Are they going 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.120 to do what? Not that they're the Kansas City Chiefs, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.839 But the Chiefs said, hey, if we're going to win 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.880 another Super Bowl, we have to go out improve this 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.000 offensive line. And they did. The Bengals have to spend money, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.720 and they haven't always spent money. I hope they realize 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.840 you do have something special here. I'm sure they do, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.400 but spend the money, get an offensive line. I like 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.800 Joe Mixon. I thought Joe Mixon was, you know, in 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.840 a sneaky way, had a great game. And even the defense. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.160 You know, I'm not sold on all of the defensive backs, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.640 but the defensive line, I mean they handled the Rams. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:08.319 You got a great kicker, and you know, you got 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.800 Burrow and Chase and Higgins. I mean, you got you 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.480 got some weapons there. It's just so tough to get back, 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.600 and even really the devastation when you lose the Super Bowl, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.600 you normally don't even win a playoff game the following year. Now, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:28.160 it's difficult. Ask Russell Wilson, asked Ben Roethlisberger, Ask Aaron Rodgers. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.560 It's difficult. You can be a great quarterback, and people 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.800 also forget that Tom Brady went nine years in between 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.440 Super Bowls, Like, here's the greatest quarterback and you're going 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:47.080 nine years. So it's not easy. And I did say 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.160 this last week. You know, there's a chance the Bengals 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.520 might not even be the favorites in their own division 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.960 because it might be the Ravens. It could be the Browns. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.520 Browns have a better defense, in a better running game. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.960 I mean they have a lot of you know, positives there. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:10.000 Now is Burrow better than Baker? Yes, absolutely, wide receiver wise, 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.840 You're you're better off with what the Bengals have here. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.280 And you know the Ravens will be the Ravens. They'll 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.240 be formidable as well, just winning your division. And you know, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.000 the Bengals, they weren't a great team this year. They 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.000 were just opportunistic. When they needed to do something, they 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.360 did it and usually it was with a game winning 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.480 field goal. There were times when you watch them and 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.240 you said, you know, they're not that good or they're 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.160 just average. You know, you lose to the Jets or 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.440 the Bears and you go, they're not that good. And 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.440 then there were other times when you go on the road. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.760 You beat Kansas City, or you beat the Titans. You 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.840 survived the Raiders, they got hot at the right time 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.440 and nearly won a Super Bowl. All right, we'll get 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.760 to phone calls coming up eight seven seven three d 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.800 P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.720 Ross Tucker our good buddy. We'll join us coming up 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.000 here in a little bimp. Got our play of the day, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.480 got our poll question as well on stat of the 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.120 day as well. We're back after this and the Dan 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.360 Patrick Show. 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Be sure to catch 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.440 the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.280 nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.520 and the iHeart Radio app. This program brought to bomb 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.960 or Sades benz Vans. They go far beyond from their 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.600 customization options, cutting edge check, five star sales service in 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.960 funny inchial support crew. Mercedes benz Vans build equipped an 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.400 engineered to be ready for anything, go the extra mile, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.440 taking the all important first step into an authorized dealership. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.720 Today we were talking about the Rams and what decisions 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.560 they have in the offseason. I didn't mention that Kevin 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.879 O'Connell is going to take the Vikings job. He's the 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.879 offensive coordinator. Andrew Whitworth is going to retire, from what 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.400 I'm told, the Walter Payton Man of the Year. He's 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.400 forty years of age. Aaron Donald did not shoot down 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.960 the rumors that he's thinking about retiring. Odell Beckham is 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.320 hurt and he's a free agent. Von Miller is also 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.439 a free agent. It's not easy to get back to 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.439 the super Bowl. It's not easy to get to the 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.200 Super Bowl. And I don't want to be on record 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.320 as saying the Bengals won't get back to a Super Bowl, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.359 because that's where people look silly with their hot takes. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.560 I think, just looking at it and putting an in perspective, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.720 it'll be difficult for them to get back, very difficult, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.000 even though you do have some building blocks and nucleus there. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.000 I think, you know, when we felt like, hey, Dan 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.160 Marino is going to get back, a lot of these 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.800 guys think they're gonna get back. Russell Wilson probably still 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.359 thinks he's going to get back. Aaron Rodgers going to 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.280 get back. It's just there's so much luck that goes 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.240 into this. And I think you saw that with the Bengals. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.919 They were just good enough when they needed to be. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.800 And it says a lot about them because there are 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:23.879 times where I didn't think they were that good at 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.800 football team. Let's bring in Ross Tucker, our good buddy, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.879 the Ross Tucker Football podcast. He works for CBS in 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.600 Westwood One, the former offensive lineman. Boy, could you imagine 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.800 having the task of trying to stop Aaron Donald there 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.640 in the final five, seven, ten minutes of that game? There? Ross, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.960 Oh yeah, I can imagine. There's a guy that went 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.359 in the Hall of Fame over the weekend Bryant Young, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.560 who was not Aaron Donald but was a similar type 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.600 of player. And I've actually talked to guys about the 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.280 best way to try to pull lock Aaron Donald. Some 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.080 guys Dan will try to just jump him and grab 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.640 him right there, but he's so good with his hands 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.640 that you can look real bad. So people I've talked 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.960 to said, oh, the best move is to just set 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.520 back a little bit, give a little bit ground. Well, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.439 he was bull rushing the crap out of those guys 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.080 last night. I'm not sure there is a really good answer. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.480 When they were double teaming him and sliding to him, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.200 that helped. It is funny though, because I don't know 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.320 if you've ever done this with him on your show. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.560 I know you have the guys read their draft profiles. 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.320 But it's so funny because he didn't go top ten 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.480 because people were worried about how short he was. Just 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.639 it just seems so funny now by the way, they're like, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.119 who cares how tall you are for a defensive tackle? 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.440 Who who would you have given the MVP two co 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:55.119 MVPs Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald. Yeah, you can't do that. 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.880 You got to give it to somebody, one person Okay, Um, Well, 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.480 there has been a year where there was co MVPs. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:04.880 If you have to give it to somebody, I don't 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.960 have a problem with Cooper Cup. It would not have 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.359 been Stafford. I don't think I think it would have 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.159 been Cup or Donald. You know, the thing that people 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.760 are forgetting is after Stafford through the interception on the 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:21.840 Ram's first offensive play, Aaron Donald had two sacks. You know, 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.760 the Bengals had just gotten the bomb the te Higgins, 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.920 They're up seventeen thirteen. Then they get the interception by 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:32.560 a Woozier. Donald chases Joe Burrow out of bounds, and 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:37.399 then third down, Higgins is open. Donald Bullrush's identity and 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.040 gets a sack. Those that was huge. If the Bengals 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.120 score a touchdown there, I think the game is very, 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.960 very different. And then he closed it out at the 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.399 end as well. I think you can make a strong 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.560 argument for Aaron Donald. But I'm fine with Cooper Cup too. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.280 He took over that last drive even when it seemed 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.600 like he was the only legit weapon the Rams could 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.639 really go too. How could the Bengals have won this 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.080 well several different ways. First of all, it's kind of 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.240 crazy to me, Dan, that they ran the ball so 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.399 much better than the Rams did and lost. Really, you know, 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:17.680 if you would have told me the Bengals would run 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.359 it that much better than the Rams and lose the game, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.920 I would have been surprised. I have to be honest 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.080 with you. I was a little disappointed in Joe Burrow 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:27.879 in the second half of the game. And I know 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.159 the way it is, right, you have a young quarterback, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.960 he's very good. There's gonna be five thousand Bengals fans 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.240 are gonna jump all over me because they don't like 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.000 if you say anything bad at all. Dan. He just 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.440