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Speaker 1: want it. I would love to pick the Bengal h
Speaker 1: long count Joe has the ball dropped back to the throne.
Speaker 1: But I'd be picking the Bengals just because I want
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. Aaron Donald got there. Donald, take
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Speaker 1: gonna win. Win. You brought the RAM back to off
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Ryan Clark and the Mothership. Our good buddy
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker will stop by as well. Play of the Day,
Speaker 1: stat of the Day poll question. Seaton is in the
Speaker 1: back row today, Marvin in the front row. Fritzie has
Speaker 1: got his damn three piece suit on today. But we
Speaker 1: found out that it's not a three piece suit. No,
Speaker 1: it's a long sleeve shirt, not a vest. And the
Speaker 1: guy thought that maybe it was too dark in the
Speaker 1: gala that I was at, and he just decided to
Speaker 1: call me three piece. But I found that I couldn't
Speaker 1: close it on the waist. They found some twine or
Speaker 1: wire in the back room. Guys so that I can
Speaker 1: close these pants and uh, there we are, Okay. I'm
Speaker 1: just shocked that you would have something that's almost thirty
Speaker 1: years old and you can't fit into it. It's seaton.
Speaker 1: The pants were actually baggy, and so I don't know
Speaker 1: how it fit me in the first place. So the
Speaker 1: woman that sold it to me in Laguna Beach convinced
Speaker 1: me that it was a good fit because there's more
Speaker 1: room than you would think for something when I was
Speaker 1: like twenty three, twenty four years old. Yeah, seton right,
Speaker 1: because that's you know, like many of us say in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, I know I certainly waited a lot less.
Speaker 1: I was way thinner, right, So I'm going to assume
Speaker 1: the same for Todd. And this thing is gigantic on
Speaker 1: him now, and he's absolutely swimming in this even though
Speaker 1: he may not be able to close the pants all
Speaker 1: the way and he needs apparently some twine to hold
Speaker 1: it together. He's he's swimming in parts of the suit.
Speaker 1: I'm very misproportioned. That gets because why would they be
Speaker 1: so baggy on the legs, But I can't come close
Speaker 1: to closing the waist. He still looks like today he's
Speaker 1: wearing his big brother's suit. Like when you're twelve years
Speaker 1: old and you're like, well I gotta squeeze into my
Speaker 1: older brother's suit or whatever, and you're swimming in it.
Speaker 1: That's what toddle. I think the problem is I'm at
Speaker 1: the weight of someone that would be like six to
Speaker 1: four instead of like five ten and a half. And
Speaker 1: that's why it becomes misproportioned. The damn three piece. Damn
Speaker 1: three piece. All right, we'll come up with a poll question.
Speaker 1: I think Seaton's going to take the responsibilities. I thought
Speaker 1: I was asking too much of Todd when we're in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. No, No, I'm just you. It was hard
Speaker 1: for you to multitask. And this way I can give
Speaker 1: Seaton responsibility of handling the poll question. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: I mean it's not fine, it's up to you. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: I like them. If we all get a shot out
Speaker 1: of that's good. Different voices. Yeah, he get sick of
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Speaker 1: to the La Rams super Bowl champs. They certainly were
Speaker 1: a big topic of conversation this past season because their
Speaker 1: last first round pick came in twenty sixteen, sort of
Speaker 1: breaks a lot of the traditional roster building tactics. Historically,
Speaker 1: team's value covet those draft picks. It makes sense because
Speaker 1: the draft has always been a great way to land
Speaker 1: superstar talent. The forty nine Ers with Bill Walsh did this,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson did this. But draft picks
Speaker 1: come with a risk because it's hard to predict how
Speaker 1: a college kid is going to perform in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and the Rams decided to take that risk out of
Speaker 1: the equation. They opted for proven talents like Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: Von Miller, Odell Beckham Junior, and those editions paid off
Speaker 1: last night. Stafford for three touchdowns, Miller had a pair
Speaker 1: of sacks. And for years we've heard that the way
Speaker 1: to build a championship team is through the draft, But
Speaker 1: with the way LA season turned out, maybe there's a
Speaker 1: new blueprint to win a Super Bowl. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people have talked about who should have
Speaker 1: been the MVP. Well, Cooper Cup got it. But that's
Speaker 1: what you have to understand. I think with the votes
Speaker 1: being tabulated before the two minute warning, Aaron Donald, to me,
Speaker 1: was the most valuable player last night, because if you're
Speaker 1: going to make this argument, hey, the Bengals knew Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup was going to get the ball. They double teamed him. Well,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is double teamed on every play, sometimes triple
Speaker 1: teamed on every play. And while he had a quiet
Speaker 1: first half when they needed him the most, I thought
Speaker 1: that those stops were a difference maker, and Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: was wonderful, but I thought that Aaron Donald was the
Speaker 1: most valuable player. Cooper Cup, you know, he did what
Speaker 1: you wanted him to do with Odell Beckham not being
Speaker 1: in there, even the fourth down run that he had,
Speaker 1: they went to him three consecutive times. He gets the
Speaker 1: touchdown against Eli Apple, that's the game winner. But if you,
Speaker 1: I think, if you voted when the game was over,
Speaker 1: now they have to do it. They have to do
Speaker 1: it prior to the two minute warning because when we
Speaker 1: get ready to hand out the super Bowl Trophy, we
Speaker 1: have to know who the MVP is because they they're
Speaker 1: going to be up there on the podium. Yeah, seeon
Speaker 1: what is that? You're hitting it here a bit? But
Speaker 1: what is that process of voting for the Super Bowl MVP?
Speaker 1: How like, what are the mechanics of that? I know
Speaker 1: it's okay before the two minutes you have to get
Speaker 1: the votes in, but is there more detailed to that.
Speaker 1: I don't know who votes and how they tabulate the votes.
Speaker 1: I don't know that other than I was told that
Speaker 1: they do it right before the two minute drill. Right,
Speaker 1: because from your side of things, if you're handing out
Speaker 1: the trophy and you have to do all of that,
Speaker 1: you just need to know the name right, but not
Speaker 1: necessarily the process leading up to it. But the two
Speaker 1: minute warning, I shouldn't say two minute drill, the two
Speaker 1: minute warning. You have to have the votes tabulated. And
Speaker 1: I think, and look, either they could have done co
Speaker 1: mbps now they know understand this. I didn't think Tom
Speaker 1: Brady deserved it when the Patriots beat Seattle, it should
Speaker 1: have been Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler was the most valuable
Speaker 1: player because without him they don't win that Super Bowl? Um,
Speaker 1: who Brady? Even when they beat the Falcons? You could
Speaker 1: have given that to James White couldn't you didn't he
Speaker 1: have an unbelievable game there, especially late. Yeah, So you know,
Speaker 1: we we hand out that trophy and sometimes we don't
Speaker 1: even realize Santonio Holmes won it, and people probably don't
Speaker 1: realize that Ben to me should have won it because
Speaker 1: he led the two minute drill. They beat Arizoni through
Speaker 1: the ball in the perfect place for sent Tonio Homes
Speaker 1: and Santonio Homes. Tantonio sam something Holmes? What's up Holmes?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll come up with a poll question there, Seaton,
Speaker 1: you're on the spot. What do you have? Yeah, that's great,
Speaker 1: It's okay so far, I'm kicking around two. All right,
Speaker 1: Is that the last game we'll see Aaron Donald play?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? That was a kind of a crazy
Speaker 1: storyline that developed leading into the game. Yeah, And Rodney
Speaker 1: Harrison is not an insider, he's a former player. But
Speaker 1: he said it in a casual manner like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a good chance that Aaron Donald will retire if they lose.
Speaker 1: He's only thirty years of age. But I who knows
Speaker 1: what motivates or you know, he's going to be a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I think he's been in the league
Speaker 1: eight years he's been first team All Pro, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where that's where you find true greatness
Speaker 1: when you're an All Pro, not a pro bowler All Pro.
Speaker 1: It was a casual mention, almost a throwaway line, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: and I was going to text Rodney, but you know
Speaker 1: he was involved in the Super Bowl coverage just to
Speaker 1: say do you realize what you just said or how
Speaker 1: you said it? Not that he needed me to remind him,
Speaker 1: but it was so casual, and then everybody started to
Speaker 1: run with it. It's like whoa Aaron Donald could retire? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the contract situations for the Rams,
Speaker 1: but I wonder how much if you can retain most
Speaker 1: of those players next year, how much that would weigh
Speaker 1: into his decision. Well, you got Von Miller and you
Speaker 1: got Odell Beckham. Stafford is going to be in his
Speaker 1: contract year next year. He's only twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 1: I think you actually have a bargain with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cups under contract. Ramsey I think is under contract,
Speaker 1: but you know they could lose a couple of those
Speaker 1: players they want to keep Beckham still waiting to find
Speaker 1: out if he tores ACL. I'm gonna guess he did.
Speaker 1: And then von Miller does he want to stay? I
Speaker 1: think von Miller's thirty three. Yeah, Poe going in the
Speaker 1: next season. The rams or fourteen million dollars over a cap.
Speaker 1: They think it might expand and it could be kind
Speaker 1: of a wash, but they will have to do do a
Speaker 1: little cutting. You start to look at the end results
Speaker 1: of these playoff games, and I can't remember playoff games
Speaker 1: that came down to the final seconds. Every playoff game
Speaker 1: because if you look at the divisional round, the conference championship,
Speaker 1: and then the Super Bowl, the last seven games in
Speaker 1: the playoffs were decided by seven points, three points, three points,
Speaker 1: three points, three points, three points, three points. Whoa stat
Speaker 1: of the day? Best stat of the day? Stat of
Speaker 1: the day? Here comes that? What stat of the day?
Speaker 1: All right? All right, so we got our poll question, Well,
Speaker 1: what other options do we have? Well you could actually
Speaker 1: throw in there, was this the best NFL playoffs ever?
Speaker 1: Just based on what you just laid out there, because
Speaker 1: every game was pretty incredible. I think people would agree
Speaker 1: because the recency bias, but I you know, it's not
Speaker 1: if I start to do inventory here. I just can't
Speaker 1: remember games that were this great that came down to
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about great games, not necessarily it comes
Speaker 1: down to, uh, you know, the final seconds and then
Speaker 1: we go, boy, that that was a great game. Sometimes
Speaker 1: great games aren't great games, they're just great finish to it.
Speaker 1: But you know, you had highs and lows, great moments,
Speaker 1: strange plays, great plays. That's what you want. You want,
Speaker 1: you want entertainment from start to finish. And I think
Speaker 1: I thought the Rams were on the verge of blowing
Speaker 1: them out and and it just kind of settled down
Speaker 1: a little bit for the Bengals, and you know, you
Speaker 1: had a couple of interceptions with Stafford, they had a
Speaker 1: big touchdown pass to t Higgins. It felt like the
Speaker 1: Bengals were never out of it, but it was never
Speaker 1: they were in full control. I never got that feeling.
Speaker 1: And I thought the Rams were going to win, but
Speaker 1: I was hoping the Bengals would. Just as I've said before,
Speaker 1: being from the city of Cincinnati, I thought I thought
Speaker 1: the Rams were a better team star power, and that
Speaker 1: the Stars did perform. You know, Aaron Donald showed why
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer Cooper Cup the best receiver
Speaker 1: in the sport, even Odell Beckham with what he did
Speaker 1: in his limited time in there, and even Stafford as well,
Speaker 1: because I think you got that feeling of could Stafford
Speaker 1: throw this away? And he had three touchdown passes. That's
Speaker 1: what you want, you know, Jayalen Ramsey got burned a
Speaker 1: couple times, but you know the one was with t Higgins.
Speaker 1: That's controversial. Now that's not reviewable by the way they
Speaker 1: review every touchdown. But you can't go back and say, hey,
Speaker 1: there was a face mask there, because you could do
Speaker 1: that on any play. Hey there's a hold there. If
Speaker 1: there's no flag, then you know the touchdown's going to stand. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I got one more for you. Then Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: the Bengals will make it back to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: dot dot dot next year and the next two to
Speaker 1: five years, six to ten years or never. Oh. This
Speaker 1: is why Dan Marino was trending yesterday, spirited because Dan
Speaker 1: Marino got to the Super Bowl. I believe that was
Speaker 1: his second year in the league, and he threw for
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdown passes that year. Hey, he'll get back, Well,
Speaker 1: he never got back. It's going to be difficult for
Speaker 1: the Bengals to get back. You got to improve that
Speaker 1: offensive line. They got money to spend. Are they going
Speaker 1: to do what? Not that they're the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs said, hey, if we're going to win
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl, we have to go out improve this
Speaker 1: offensive line. And they did. The Bengals have to spend money,
Speaker 1: and they haven't always spent money. I hope they realize
Speaker 1: you do have something special here. I'm sure they do,
Speaker 1: but spend the money, get an offensive line. I like
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. I thought Joe Mixon was, you know, in
Speaker 1: a sneaky way, had a great game. And even the defense.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sold on all of the defensive backs,
Speaker 1: but the defensive line, I mean they handled the Rams.
Speaker 1: You got a great kicker, and you know, you got
Speaker 1: Burrow and Chase and Higgins. I mean, you got you
Speaker 1: got some weapons there. It's just so tough to get back,
Speaker 1: and even really the devastation when you lose the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you normally don't even win a playoff game the following year. Now,
Speaker 1: it's difficult. Ask Russell Wilson, asked Ben Roethlisberger, Ask Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: It's difficult. You can be a great quarterback, and people
Speaker 1: also forget that Tom Brady went nine years in between
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Like, here's the greatest quarterback and you're going
Speaker 1: nine years. So it's not easy. And I did say
Speaker 1: this last week. You know, there's a chance the Bengals
Speaker 1: might not even be the favorites in their own division
Speaker 1: because it might be the Ravens. It could be the Browns.
Speaker 1: Browns have a better defense, in a better running game.
Speaker 1: I mean they have a lot of you know, positives there.
Speaker 1: Now is Burrow better than Baker? Yes, absolutely, wide receiver wise,
Speaker 1: You're you're better off with what the Bengals have here.
Speaker 1: And you know the Ravens will be the Ravens. They'll
Speaker 1: be formidable as well, just winning your division. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Bengals, they weren't a great team this year. They
Speaker 1: were just opportunistic. When they needed to do something, they
Speaker 1: did it and usually it was with a game winning
Speaker 1: field goal. There were times when you watch them and
Speaker 1: you said, you know, they're not that good or they're
Speaker 1: just average. You know, you lose to the Jets or
Speaker 1: the Bears and you go, they're not that good. And
Speaker 1: then there were other times when you go on the road.
Speaker 1: You beat Kansas City, or you beat the Titans. You
Speaker 1: survived the Raiders, they got hot at the right time
Speaker 1: and nearly won a Super Bowl. All right, we'll get
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Speaker 1: Today we were talking about the Rams and what decisions
Speaker 1: they have in the offseason. I didn't mention that Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell is going to take the Vikings job. He's the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Andrew Whitworth is going to retire, from what
Speaker 1: I'm told, the Walter Payton Man of the Year. He's
Speaker 1: forty years of age. Aaron Donald did not shoot down
Speaker 1: the rumors that he's thinking about retiring. Odell Beckham is
Speaker 1: hurt and he's a free agent. Von Miller is also
Speaker 1: a free agent. It's not easy to get back to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It's not easy to get to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I don't want to be on record
Speaker 1: as saying the Bengals won't get back to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: because that's where people look silly with their hot takes.
Speaker 1: I think, just looking at it and putting an in perspective,
Speaker 1: it'll be difficult for them to get back, very difficult,
Speaker 1: even though you do have some building blocks and nucleus there.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when we felt like, hey, Dan
Speaker 1: Marino is going to get back, a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys think they're gonna get back. Russell Wilson probably still
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to get back. Aaron Rodgers going to
Speaker 1: get back. It's just there's so much luck that goes
Speaker 1: into this. And I think you saw that with the Bengals.
Speaker 1: They were just good enough when they needed to be.
Speaker 1: And it says a lot about them because there are
Speaker 1: times where I didn't think they were that good at
Speaker 1: football team. Let's bring in Ross Tucker, our good buddy,
Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker Football podcast. He works for CBS in
Speaker 1: Westwood One, the former offensive lineman. Boy, could you imagine
Speaker 1: having the task of trying to stop Aaron Donald there
Speaker 1: in the final five, seven, ten minutes of that game? There? Ross,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can imagine. There's a guy that went
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame over the weekend Bryant Young,
Speaker 1: who was not Aaron Donald but was a similar type
Speaker 1: of player. And I've actually talked to guys about the
Speaker 1: best way to try to pull lock Aaron Donald. Some
Speaker 1: guys Dan will try to just jump him and grab
Speaker 1: him right there, but he's so good with his hands
Speaker 1: that you can look real bad. So people I've talked
Speaker 1: to said, oh, the best move is to just set
Speaker 1: back a little bit, give a little bit ground. Well,
Speaker 1: he was bull rushing the crap out of those guys
Speaker 1: last night. I'm not sure there is a really good answer.
Speaker 1: When they were double teaming him and sliding to him,
Speaker 1: that helped. It is funny though, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever done this with him on your show.
Speaker 1: I know you have the guys read their draft profiles.
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because he didn't go top ten
Speaker 1: because people were worried about how short he was. Just
Speaker 1: it just seems so funny now by the way, they're like,
Speaker 1: who cares how tall you are for a defensive tackle?
Speaker 1: Who who would you have given the MVP two co
Speaker 1: MVPs Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald. Yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You got to give it to somebody, one person Okay, Um, Well,
Speaker 1: there has been a year where there was co MVPs.
Speaker 1: If you have to give it to somebody, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with Cooper Cup. It would not have
Speaker 1: been Stafford. I don't think I think it would have
Speaker 1: been Cup or Donald. You know, the thing that people
Speaker 1: are forgetting is after Stafford through the interception on the
Speaker 1: Ram's first offensive play, Aaron Donald had two sacks. You know,
Speaker 1: the Bengals had just gotten the bomb the te Higgins,
Speaker 1: They're up seventeen thirteen. Then they get the interception by
Speaker 1: a Woozier. Donald chases Joe Burrow out of bounds, and
Speaker 1: then third down, Higgins is open. Donald Bullrush's identity and
Speaker 1: gets a sack. Those that was huge. If the Bengals
Speaker 1: score a touchdown there, I think the game is very,
Speaker 1: very different. And then he closed it out at the
Speaker 1: end as well. I think you can make a strong
Speaker 1: argument for Aaron Donald. But I'm fine with Cooper Cup too.
Speaker 1: He took over that last drive even when it seemed
Speaker 1: like he was the only legit weapon the Rams could
Speaker 1: really go too. How could the Bengals have won this
Speaker 1: well several different ways. First of all, it's kind of
Speaker 1: crazy to me, Dan, that they ran the ball so
Speaker 1: much better than the Rams did and lost. Really, you know,
Speaker 1: if you would have told me the Bengals would run
Speaker 1: it that much better than the Rams and lose the game,
Speaker 1: I would have been surprised. I have to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I was a little disappointed in Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: in the second half of the game. And I know
Speaker 1: the way it is, right, you have a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's very good. There's gonna be five thousand Bengals fans
Speaker 1: are gonna jump all over me because they don't like
Speaker 1: if you say anything bad at all. Dan. He just
Speaker 1: takes sacks that you cannot take. He puts his team
Speaker 1: in a situation where they have very little chance to
Speaker 1: get a first down on that series of downs. He
Speaker 1: missed a critical throw to Jamar Chase when Chase was
Speaker 1: wide open on a third down that would have been
Speaker 1: a first down, would have kept the drive alive. So
Speaker 1: I really thought that Burrow was fine. Burrow had a
Speaker 1: good game, but for the Bengals to win that game,
Speaker 1: they needed him to be better in the second half.
Speaker 1: They need him to be clutch, and he kind of
Speaker 1: cowered a little bit to the pressure. You know, he
Speaker 1: took some sacks where he saw the guy coming, throw
Speaker 1: the ball away. Try to give one of your receivers
Speaker 1: a chance. You just can't keep taking sacks like he did.
Speaker 1: How do you explain the Rams defense being so dominating
Speaker 1: in the second half, or certainly in that fourth quarter. Well,
Speaker 1: I think one thing they did was they did a
Speaker 1: better job of having five guys up so that the
Speaker 1: offensive line couldn't automatically slide to Aaron Dialond. I'm a
Speaker 1: little surprised that the Rams didn't do that in the
Speaker 1: first half. You know, simple math, right, you got four
Speaker 1: d lineman rushing five offensive lineman, you can send the
Speaker 1: center to help out on whoever's blocking Aaron Dialond. The
Speaker 1: whole time when they would walk the linebackers up like
Speaker 1: Eater or Ernest Jones or even guys off the edge,
Speaker 1: well then those five big guys they get to block
Speaker 1: the five guys they think are coming. They were able
Speaker 1: to get a lot more than one on ones for
Speaker 1: guys than they had in the first half, and they
Speaker 1: clearly took advantage. What did you make of the officiating
Speaker 1: last night? Okay? Okay, I was disappointed, really disappointed in
Speaker 1: the holding penalty against Logan Wilson on third down about
Speaker 1: a minute and a half left. I thought it was
Speaker 1: perfect coverage on Cooper Cup. I'm of the belief Dan
Speaker 1: went in doubt, don't throw the flag. They had let
Speaker 1: the guys play all game, all game, they let him
Speaker 1: play and then it wasn't even tikie tack. To me,
Speaker 1: there was no foul there at all. I thought it
Speaker 1: was next Onllent played by Logan Wilson. I thought it
Speaker 1: was the worst call of the game. However, the first
Speaker 1: play of the second half, Tee Higgins literally tugged Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey's face mask, which is how he got open and scored.
Speaker 1: So if you want to say that those two calls
Speaker 1: kind of offset each other, I can live with that,
Speaker 1: but I would always rather have the no call than
Speaker 1: throwing the flag for a foul that's not there. In general, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the reason why the Rams won
Speaker 1: the game. I don't think it should be the main
Speaker 1: topic of conversation today, And as long as that's the case,
Speaker 1: I'll say they did no k job. More likely to
Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl next year, Rams Bengals.
Speaker 1: I think they both have a really tough task of
Speaker 1: doing that, but I'll go with the Rams. You know,
Speaker 1: the two favorites to win the Super Bowl next year,
Speaker 1: Dan are the Chiefs and the Bills. You know, in
Speaker 1: the AFC, that's gonna be rough for the Bengals. I
Speaker 1: mean rough. They got a good young team. But I
Speaker 1: heard you talking about it before you brought me on.
Speaker 1: You know, it is not as easy to get back
Speaker 1: as these teams think it is. It is very very hard.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City and Buffalo, they're both gonna think
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be due to get back. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for the Bengal to get back
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl next year. I'm not they might
Speaker 1: be able to get back there again next year would
Speaker 1: be tough. The NFC is just much more open, and
Speaker 1: the Rams seem much more open to doing whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to try to get this going while they have
Speaker 1: this window. So maybe Aarondill need some more money, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I think they'll try to find a way to bring
Speaker 1: Van back. We'll see with Odell after that injury now,
Speaker 1: but the Rams are very much a win now. This
Speaker 1: is our window, and I think it's not just because
Speaker 1: of the players on their team. I think it's the
Speaker 1: dynamic of them being in Los Angeles, trying to capture
Speaker 1: the hearts and minds of the fans out there while
Speaker 1: they have this new stadium. There's multiple reasons why I
Speaker 1: think the Ams are in win now mode. I think
Speaker 1: they'll be very good again next year. What do you
Speaker 1: do if you're the Bengals in the off season, Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be heavy offensive line. I think we know that.
Speaker 1: I think they're good at skill. They're in a good
Speaker 1: spot Dan where they can't even pay Burrow yet, they
Speaker 1: can't even pay Jamar Chase yet. A lot of times
Speaker 1: these guys, you'd be like, oh, man, are the Bengals
Speaker 1: gonna sign this guy? Or is he gonna go somewhere else?
Speaker 1: They got no place else to go, so they're in
Speaker 1: a really good spot. I think they'll probably add one
Speaker 1: veteran free agent on the offensive line. They'll probably draft
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman as well, probably still go in the secondary.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they love Eli Apple being but this
Speaker 1: is a pretty good team. They're not far away. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix. I just don't think they'll
Speaker 1: end up being the Chiefs and the Bills again. But
Speaker 1: they're gonna get the offensive line better. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the mix. Let me go back to you talking
Speaker 1: about Aaron Donald maybe getting a new contract wanting more money.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the ploy of him saying to
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison that, you know, I may walk away if
Speaker 1: I win a Super Bowl. I don't think that's why
Speaker 1: he's saying it. I think it's something he's legitimately considered.
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you this does not bother me. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a smart guy. He's done everything he
Speaker 1: could really do as a player. Most people think he's
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players ever. He's already made
Speaker 1: a ton of money. You know, Dan was CTE and
Speaker 1: with everyone knowing the long term ramifications of playing especially
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, the amount of double teams he takes, the
Speaker 1: amount of shots he takes. If he says, you know what,
Speaker 1: in awesome eight years, I'm gonna go to live the
Speaker 1: rest of my life, be able to be with my
Speaker 1: family healthy. My shoulders and knees are okay. My brain,
Speaker 1: I think it's like, I don't need to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: I think that would be wonderful. I'd be happy for him.
Speaker 1: But it seems like when these guys are away from
Speaker 1: it for a couple of months and then they start
Speaker 1: to think, Okay, what would I do next? And it's
Speaker 1: not going to be the fourteen and a half million
Speaker 1: the RAMS is supposed to pay him. And like I said,
Speaker 1: if that's what it takes, the RAMS, I think will
Speaker 1: sweeten the pilot. It'd be like, Aaron, how about house
Speaker 1: twenty million? Sound? I think that's hard to turn down.
Speaker 1: You know, you realize I want to live sixty more
Speaker 1: years over twenty million dollars. I think he'll end up playing.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he retires, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if he gets a little contracts sweetener to do.
Speaker 1: So great to talk to you, buddy, Thanks and we
Speaker 1: hope to continue to talk to you in the offseason.
Speaker 1: My pleasure, Dan, Thank you so much for having me
Speaker 1: on so much this year. It's been fun. That's Ross Tucker,
Speaker 1: host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast and also even
Speaker 1: Money Podcast. You can find him on social media at
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker NFL. Here's Aaron Donald's draft profile. Marginal height
Speaker 1: and frame is nearly maxed down. Hands are more active
Speaker 1: than strong, could play with more pop and power, overpowered
Speaker 1: in the run game and ground up by double teams,
Speaker 1: gets snared and controlled by bigger, longer blockers. Not a
Speaker 1: two gap player. Has some tweener traits, lacks ideal length,
Speaker 1: and bend to play outside. Now those are just the negatives.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of positives with him. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that you just keep with you.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen this before when JJ Watt came
Speaker 1: in and he read his draft profile, or Drew Brees
Speaker 1: read his, or Aaron Rodgers read his. And this is
Speaker 1: one of those things that probably still stays with Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald and motivates him because of all the things that
Speaker 1: he didn't do. But there's so many things that he
Speaker 1: does well. But that's his draft profile. And does he
Speaker 1: get a new contract? You know, I wondered about this
Speaker 1: with t J. Watt. I thought t J. Watt might
Speaker 1: be the first thirty million dollars a year defensive player,
Speaker 1: and he came close to it. Aaron Donald is the
Speaker 1: most valuable defensive player, the best defensive player. Now t J.
Speaker 1: Watt was the defensive player of the year. I have
Speaker 1: no problem with that. But if you're saying who's the
Speaker 1: best defensive player in the game, Aaron Donald. But he's
Speaker 1: nowhere near the highest paid. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that is factoring into this, but he's still got a
Speaker 1: few good years left. You would think he's already going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. I like though, there was
Speaker 1: a moment last night where he's pointing to his ring
Speaker 1: finger and then a player for the Bengals would come
Speaker 1: over and he would stop that and like he was,
Speaker 1: you know, doing this for the camera, like yeah, look
Speaker 1: at the Yeah, good game, good g Yeah, yeah, good game,
Speaker 1: good game, good game. Yeah. He's like pointing to his finger,
Speaker 1: like that's right. We run this respect man, respect respect,
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, good game. How about we do the
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald career salary game, and that means we need
Speaker 1: some thumping salbry salal salary salary. I had my uh
Speaker 1: my post super Bowl party and uh you know I
Speaker 1: was playing this at my house last time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: with my wife. It was just us in the basement. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: had the disco like disco ball going like it was.
Speaker 1: It was pumping in there. All right, career salary game,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. This is a two part game. He's played
Speaker 1: eight seasons. His highest paycheck for one season was seventeen million,
Speaker 1: but he did get a monster signing bonus in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: How monster. But he has three years left on his contract.
Speaker 1: So how much has he made and how much will
Speaker 1: he made at it make at his current deal three
Speaker 1: more years? Todd, don't let you sorry. He's made one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight million and he's due another thirty
Speaker 1: nine million. Okay, Seaton, I'm gonna say he's made one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million, but he's due forty five. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go one sixty two five for Aaron Donald as
Speaker 1: the total. Or oh, okay, that's a good guess. He's
Speaker 1: made ninety seven million dollars as of this season, he's
Speaker 1: due fourteen million, nineteen nineteen million. After three seasons, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, he will have made one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars. Okay. That said, next year he's on pace
Speaker 1: to make nine million dollars nine million, which is I
Speaker 1: think the same as Nick Foles to be the third
Speaker 1: stringer of the Bears, or I'm sorry, Andy Dalton to
Speaker 1: not play much for the Bear. But also, you know,
Speaker 1: we look at interior defensive lineman, and they don't have
Speaker 1: the value of an edge rusher. They should because quarterbacks
Speaker 1: will tell you when you get pressure up the middle,
Speaker 1: then like that really concerns you when you're on the edge. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can, I can get away, I can move the
Speaker 1: offense to the other side, whatever it is. I have
Speaker 1: a better chance of eluding the edge rusher than the
Speaker 1: guy who comes right up the middle on me. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what you saw with Joe Burrow. He
Speaker 1: was kind of in no man's land. You come off
Speaker 1: the edge, then maybe he could take off and run.
Speaker 1: I thought Burrow was going to run the ball more
Speaker 1: than he did last night. I think he only had
Speaker 1: one good run. I think that was didn't we get
Speaker 1: an al Michaels and the very subdued one? Okay, very
Speaker 1: quick because the run it wasn't along and there he
Speaker 1: could He's down. Yeah, Paul, is this a tough one
Speaker 1: for the ram though, because as much as you'd like
Speaker 1: to reward Aaron Donald, you don't have to. You haven't
Speaker 1: completely under contract or three more years which will be
Speaker 1: the back half of his prime or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. He'll be thirty four in the contract
Speaker 1: then I know, I know, yea, he can't play for
Speaker 1: anybody else. Yeah, see was last night Aaron Donald's last game.
Speaker 1: You want to guess what the poll results are so far?
Speaker 1: Eighty percent? Yes, oh man, you're so close to but
Speaker 1: you haven't flipped. It's okay. I hope it's not his
Speaker 1: last game. You know, you get to see these, you know,
Speaker 1: incredible talents and they come along. You know, you can
Speaker 1: go with Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor, I go back
Speaker 1: to me and Joe Green, Like, they're just so many
Speaker 1: of these transcendent talents and you want them to stay
Speaker 1: as long as they can't. I'm sure quarterbacks, an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: you know, and be like, is he gonna retire? I
Speaker 1: hope he's going to retire? All right, Well, take a break.
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Speaker 1: of the numbers here this season he finished the entire
Speaker 1: year postseason, regular season one hundred and seventy eight catches
Speaker 1: for twenty four hundred and twenty five yards twenty two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty one games. The only player with more
Speaker 1: touchdown receptions in a single season regular and postseason Randy
Speaker 1: Moss in two thousand and seven with the Patriots when
Speaker 1: he had twenty four. And I know we loved his
Speaker 1: single out Cooper Cup, and rightfully so. Matthew Stafford does
Speaker 1: deserve some of the credit for a guy who has
Speaker 1: had one of the greatest maybe the greatest season of
Speaker 1: receivers ever had. And even with Odell Beckham Van Jefferson,
Speaker 1: you knew that Cooper Cup was going to get the ball.
Speaker 1: He had to get the ball. Even when Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: went down, you still knew Cooper Cup was getting the ball,
Speaker 1: whether he was running it on fourth down or you
Speaker 1: extending drives on that last drive. But Cooper Cup, that
Speaker 1: might be the greatest season somebody has ever had at
Speaker 1: that position. And that's saying an awful lot. Yeah, Paul
Speaker 1: I was going through the final few plays. Remember at
Speaker 1: the goal line when they threw the pass to Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup up in the back of the end zone. He
Speaker 1: made that great catch and he got hit in the
Speaker 1: helmet and they called a penalty on both sides and
Speaker 1: there's a holding on the rams. It would have been
Speaker 1: better for the Bengals if Cooper Cup had caught the
Speaker 1: touchdown and got it there. There was a minute forty
Speaker 1: four left. It would have been Bengals ball, one forty
Speaker 1: four left and three timeouts. Instead, they ran the ball.
Speaker 1: There was a couple more plays. The Bengals had to
Speaker 1: burn one and it took twenty three seconds off the clock.
Speaker 1: It had been better if they got that touchdown. I was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to end in overtime because
Speaker 1: we've had the controversy of overtime this year. Competition committee
Speaker 1: is going to look at overtime in the off season,
Speaker 1: and I thought that this is going to go into
Speaker 1: overtime and somebody is going to win the game on
Speaker 1: a touchdown and either the Bengals don't get the ball
Speaker 1: in a chance, so the Rams don't get the ball.
Speaker 1: And that's what I thought. That's how I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to end. A couple of phone calls in here,
Speaker 1: as we always do every Monday, Best and Worst of
Speaker 1: the week and Andrew in Washington, Good morning, Andrew, welcome back.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Good morning guys. Worst of the
Speaker 1: weekend was working late last night being able to watch
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or gorged myself with food. So the
Speaker 1: best of my weekend was Friday, second hour at the
Speaker 1: late when Dan three p one mock off twenty twenty two, tog,
Speaker 1: great job coming up in the clutch, Love the Rambo
Speaker 1: first Blood reference. And also that Live Looking this morning
Speaker 1: to start to show with him showing off his tied
Speaker 1: up belt there that was. That was something else big Marv.
Speaker 1: Good to see in the front row. Thanks guys, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you Andrew. Yeah, marvin'son Seaton seat. Seaton
Speaker 1: is in the back row with Ton his good buddy
Speaker 1: Diddy in Minneapolis. I DIDDI, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I had a
Speaker 1: best and worst. Best of the weekend was the Rams winning.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it didn't encourages more teams got to take that
Speaker 1: all in approach to go get a win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl when they when they have the window. Worst of
Speaker 1: the weekend was the the Bengals defense on that last drive.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you say it all the time,
Speaker 1: you can't let the opposing team's best player beat you,
Speaker 1: and they just you know, Cooper cut It was their
Speaker 1: only target there at the end of the at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. So I think Jay McCall, Dad,
Speaker 1: Hi buddy, thank you Diddy. I say it all the time.
Speaker 1: Defense wins championships. It might be one play, it could
Speaker 1: be one half, it could be one quarter. Well, the
Speaker 1: reason why the Rams won was defense. The reason why
Speaker 1: the Bengals didn't win was defense, right, because you had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to stop Cooper Cup Matthew Stafford in the
Speaker 1: Rams and even though you played really well when you
Speaker 1: needed to, you couldn't. When the Rams had to, they did.
Speaker 1: Nathan in La Hey, Nate, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Good morning? Then, good to talk to you again. Yes,
Speaker 1: so my best of the weekend is wide receivers wide
Speaker 1: receiver for the Rams, Ben Jes Jefferson who became a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion and a dad on the same night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard about that. That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: And my worst is the OBJ injury. And following up
Speaker 1: on that, there were several players, prominent players on Twitter
Speaker 1: voicing displeasure or concern about the playing surface, which now
Speaker 1: pretty much dominates the league. Um, do you think it's
Speaker 1: a it's they're fighting a losing battle, or do you
Speaker 1: think this could grow legs toward grass? Oh? No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening. Thank you, Nathan. I mean,
Speaker 1: did anybody else get hurt in the game with their knees?
Speaker 1: It's an awkward It was an awkward moment for Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: But I don't, I don't know if this is a trend.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're football fields. Like the vet in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: They never should allow that to be a playing surface.
Speaker 1: If you were ever on ast turf and you were
Speaker 1: there for a game in the winter, like, it would
Speaker 1: be like falling on concrete. It really was carpet on concrete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't The Arizona Cardinals stadium though, have that like crazy
Speaker 1: retractable grass thing where they have like Bermuda grass or
Speaker 1: something and it rolls outside the stadium so it could
Speaker 1: get the proper sunlight and then it's brought back in.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty elaborate when they could have just
Speaker 1: thrown down turf. Well, you know, you just can't get
Speaker 1: that much for five billion dollars anymore, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean that stadium has everything. I mean, thank either're getting
Speaker 1: subsidies and some tax write offs for it. Matt in Virginia, Hi,
Speaker 1: Matt Hey, Dan best and worst of the weekend. Best
Speaker 1: would be Matt Stafford winning Super Bowl. Worst would be
Speaker 1: Cincinnati losing engine near the end. I was going to
Speaker 1: agree with you on bonb Miller or not von Miller,
Speaker 1: but Aaron Donald deserving more considerations with the Super Bowling MVP.
Speaker 1: And do you think that Cooper Cup winning was more
Speaker 1: of a makeup for in not giving more consisperation the
Speaker 1: regular season. MC no. I mean he did get an
Speaker 1: MVP vote. It was Brady and Aaron Rodgers and I
Speaker 1: think the only other player was Cooper Cup. But you
Speaker 1: know you've got to have the votes tabulated before the
Speaker 1: two minute warning. And now Cooper Cup did have the touchdown.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald changed the game. Yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say single handedly, but it was pretty close. He changed
Speaker 1: the game. Coming up, Tony BISSELLI now a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: He will join us. Ryan Clark from the Mothership will
Speaker 1: stop by as well. Carson Palmer will join us as well.
Speaker 1: More phone calls as we always do, and we'll give
Speaker 1: you our best and worst of the weekend. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the commercials, we'll talk about the halftime show, everything
Speaker 1: else in between. Eight seven seven three D P Show
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