1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in its verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: with you and Senator I think we can just go 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: ahead and start the show with simple we told you 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: so on this show a long time ago, that there 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: was in fact people that were working with the FBI 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: in and around January sixth at the Capitol. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: You know, I got to say, at this point, it 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: is getting striking. Everything that has decried as a conspiracy 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: theory just a few months later is proven right. It 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago where the media and Democrats were 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: screaming if you said the COVID virus escaped from the 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Wuhan lab in China, you were painted as a crazy 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist until it was confirmed very likely to be true. 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago. If you said, as we 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 2: did on this podcast that Joe Biden has deteriorated mentally 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: severely and will not be the Democrat nominee for president 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, that was derided as a crazy conspiracy 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: theory until again it was proven right. And it wasn't 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: that long ago that if you said that the FBI 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: had confidential human sources, had undercover agents at the January 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: sixth riots, participating in those riots, as we did on 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: this podcast that was decried as a crazy conspiracy theory. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: All three of those statements verdict was ahead of the curve. 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: We laid out the facts for them early on, and 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: now all three have been proven accurate. This week, the 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Inspector General of the Department of Justice revealed twenty six 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: FBI informants were present on January sixth, multiple entered the 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: capital and participated in the riots on that day. We're 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: going to break all of that down, and we're going 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: to lay out how this podcast laid out the evidence 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: long before it was now acknowledged publicly. We're also going 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: to talk about how the Biden administration in the final 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: days it reminds me of you remember in the nineteen nineties, 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 2: in the two thousand those films on Cable of Girls 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Gone Wild. Oh yeah, that is the Biden administration. They're 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: drunk and screaming around like crazy and just pushing every 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: crazy left wing theory that they have, and this is 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: something that pisses me off. We're going to talk about 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: the Biden administration is literally trying to auction off portions 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: of the border wall that have not been constructed for 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: as little as five bucks apiece. Why because they desperately 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: don't want Trump to use it, so they're trying to 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: basically rob the American taxpayers to keep an open border 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: as long as possible. All of that is on today's podcast. 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got a lot to cover. 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: It is the holiday season, and this Christmas and Honika season, 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: it is a time of hope and peace for many 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: of us, but for those in Israel facing the ongoing war, 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: it is a time of fear and a lot of uncertainty. 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: The hardships are felt by everyone, with many people struggling 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: to afford food and basicness cities during this holiday season. 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Many living through the war in the Holy Land are 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: grieving the loss of loved ones while also enduring isolation 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: and hunger. 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Or you 63 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: can call and give over the phone eight at eight 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: eight IFCJ or four three two five. So let's just 66 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: go back in time to start with this FBI story center. 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of Americans now that 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: are just livid. I want to go back to what 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: we already knew and the FBI's refusal to answer your 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: question on this exact issue in twenty twenty three told 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: us everything we need to know, which has now basically 72 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: become true. Now set this up for everybody, say, know 73 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: who you're talking to before I hit play. 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm here questioning a senior official from the FBI, 75 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Jill Sanborn, about what happened on January sixth, and I'm 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: trying to get just some basic facts. And for a 77 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: spoiler alert, the FBI, like the Department of Justice both 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, just stonewall. They refuse to answer anything. 79 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: So listen back. This is over a year ago, and 80 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: we're going to find out that everything I was asking 81 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: about then well, it's pretty much proven true today. Give 82 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: a listen. How many FBI agents are confidential in fullm 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: ormans actively participated in the events of January sixth, Sir, 84 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can appreciate that. I can't go into 85 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: the specifics of sources and methods. Did any FBI agents 86 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: or confidential informants actively participate in the events of January sixth? Yes, Orday, Sir, 87 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I can't. 88 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: I can't answer that. 89 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: Did any FBI agents or confidential informants commit crimes of 90 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: violence on January sixth? 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: I can't answer that, sir. 92 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: Did any FBI agents or FBI informants actively encourage and 93 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: insight crimes of violence on January sixth? 94 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: Sor, I can't answer that, Miss Sadburn. 95 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: Who is Rey Epps? I'm aware of the individual, Sir, 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't have the specific background to him. Well, there 97 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are ustandably are stard 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: about mister f On the night of January fifth, twenty 99 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: twenty one, Epps wandered around the crowd that had gathered, 100 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: and there's video out there of him channing tomorrow we 101 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: need to get into the capitol. This was strange behavior, 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: so strange that the crowd began chanting fed fed Fed, 103 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: Fed Fed Fed, Miss Sandburn, was Ray EPPSA fed? Sir? 104 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: I cannot answer that question. 105 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: The next day, on January sixth, mister F's is seen 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: whispering to a person, and five seconds later, five seconds 107 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: after he's whispering to a person, that same person begins 108 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: to forcibly tear down the barricades. Did mister Epps urge 109 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: them to tear down the barricades, Sir? 110 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: Similar to the other answers, I cannot answer that. 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter, the FBI put out a public posts seeking 112 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: information on individuals connected with violent crimes on January sixth. 113 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: Among those individuals in the bottom there is mister Epps. 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: The FBI publicly asked for information identifying offering cash rewards 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: leading to information leading for information leading to the arrest. 116 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: This was posted, and then some time later, magically, mister 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Epps disappeared from the public posting. According to public records, 118 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: mister Epps has not been charged with anything. No one's 119 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: explained why a person videoed urging people to go to 120 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: the capital, A person whose conduct was so suspect the 121 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: crowd believed he was a FED would magically disappear from 122 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: the list of people the FBI was looking at. Miss Sandburn. 123 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: A lot of Americans are concerned that the federal government 124 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: deliberately encouraged illegal and violent conduct on January sixth. My 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: question to you, and this is not an ordinary law 126 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: enforcement question, this is a question of a public accountability. 127 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: Did federal agents or those in service of federal agent 128 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: actively encourage violent and criminal conduct on January sixth? 129 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge, sir, So let me just ask 130 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: the obvious question center, what was the basis and how 131 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: did the FBI, back when you were asking these questions 132 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, get away with not answering one 133 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: of your questions. 134 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, particularly under Joe Biden, both the FBI and 135 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: the DOJ behave as if they are utterly unaccountable to 136 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Congress and to the American people. So every time I 137 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: asked the Department of Justice or I asked the FBI 138 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: about anything about their abuse of power, about their politicized 139 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: enforcement of justice, about their weaponization, they stonewall. Often they 140 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: will say I don't know, I don't know, I don't 141 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: know that. That has happened many times when you ask 142 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: about them or they refuse to answer reasonable questions, or 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: they do is they just as they do just there 144 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: they say, they just stonewall. 145 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you, is that because that you don't 146 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: have to worry about like any. 147 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: Consequences. 148 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean they go into the meeting clearly saying, if 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: there's a question you don't want I answer, just don't 150 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: answer it. 151 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 2: So, yes, there are several reasons. Number one, under the Democrats. 152 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: And remember the Democrats have the majority in the Senate 153 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 2: right now. So no Democrat cares about the answer to 154 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: this question. No Democrat asks these questions. No Democrat will 155 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: enforce a subpoena, no Democrat will vote for a subpoena, 156 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: No Democrat will do anything do in post consequences. But 157 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: not only that, Merrick Garland and the entire Department of 158 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: Justice and the FBI, I think they have an arrogance 159 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: that they believe they don't answer to anyone. And I'll 160 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: tell you this is a problem that is extended. It's 161 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: been a bipartisan problem. It's been a problem at DOJ 162 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: and the FBI through Republican and Democrat administrations. I can 163 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: tell you I spent over an hour today meeting with 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Cash Patel, who's President Trump's nominee to run the FBI. 165 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: I met previously with Pam Bondi, who's President Trump's nominee 166 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: to be the Department of Justice. I am hopeful that 167 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: both of them. I think both will be confirmed, and 168 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that both of them will bring much much 169 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: greater transparency to the Department of Justice and the FBI 170 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: than we have seen under Joe Biden. That they will 171 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: answer these questions, and based on the conversations I've had 172 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: with them, I have real reason to be helpful because 173 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: they're telling me that they intend to substantially increase the transparency. 174 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: I think that's an obligation. I can tell you I 175 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: have had this conversation directly with Chris Ray repeatedly, and 176 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: he views his job as I've got to protect the FBI, 177 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: and so when his people's stonewall, he's just going to 178 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: circle the wagons around them and try to try to 179 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: protect their stonewalling. And I think there's an obligation, particularly 180 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: on something such as the riots on January sixth, where 181 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: there is intense public concern, what was the involvement of 182 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: the federal government of the FBI, and listen, we now know, 183 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: not through any transparency from the FBI, but instead the 184 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: Inspector General of the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz, put 185 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: out a report, and the report concluded just this week 186 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: that twenty six FBI informants were present on January sixth 187 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: in the crowd outside the Capitol, only three were assigned 188 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 2: by the FBI to be present for the event. And 189 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: now the Inspector General report stresses that none of the 190 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: sources were authorized or directed by the bureau to quote 191 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: break the law or quote encourage others to commit illegal acts. 192 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: Now that's they weren't authorized and to do so. But 193 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: what it doesn't say conclusively is they didn't do so. 194 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: The report says, quote. Today's report also details our findings 195 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: regarding FBI confidential human sources who were in Washington, d C. 196 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: On January sixth. Our review determined that none of these 197 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: FBI confidential human sources was authorized by the FBI to 198 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: enter the capital or restricted area or to otherwise break 199 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: the law on January sixth, nor was any confidential human 200 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: source directed by the FBI to encourage others to commit 201 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: illegal acts on January sixth. 202 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: However, that sounds like some lawyer terms I know you're 203 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: reading this, and I want to read. So it is 204 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: it's written by weren't encouraged to break the law, like 205 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: that's that's some that is written by a lawyer. 206 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you're actually you missed one of 207 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: the verbs. I'm ready directed by the FBI to encourage 208 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: others to committee the illegal acts. So there's a double that. 209 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: There's a double set of verbs. It's saying the FBI 210 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: did not order them to encourage others to commit illegal acts. 211 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't say they didn't encourage others, They didn't incite 212 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: others to committee legal acts. It just says they weren't 213 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: ordered by the FBI to do so. And it also 214 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: says they weren't authorized to enter the capital or the 215 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: restricted area. But interestingly enough, it concludes, however, that they 216 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: went far beyond their authorization. So three confidential human sources, 217 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: according to this report, were tasked by the FBI to 218 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: attend the rally, and one of the three tasked by 219 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: the FBI to attend the rally entered the Capitol building, which, 220 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: minds you, the Biden Department of Justice contends is illegal 221 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: and they're prosecuting people for it. The other two entered 222 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: the restricted area around the Capitol, which I believe they 223 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: are also prosecuting people for doing. And one thing to 224 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: understand that if a confidential human source is directed to 225 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: be at an event by the FBI, they're being paid 226 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: by the FBI for their time. Here's what the report says. Quote. 227 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: One FBI field office tasked a confidential human source to 228 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: travel to DC to report on the activities of a 229 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: predicted domestic terrorism subject who was separately planning to travel 230 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: to d C for the January sixth electoral certification. A 231 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: second FBI field office t a confidential human source to 232 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: travel to DC to potentially report on two domestic terrorism 233 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: subjects from another FBI field office who were planning to 234 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: travel to DC for the events of January sixth. And 235 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: a third confidential human source who had informed their handling 236 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: agent that they intended to travel to d C on 237 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: their own initiative for the events of January sixth, was 238 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: similarly tasked by their field office to potentially report on 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: two domestic terrorism subjects from other FBI field offices who 240 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: were planning to travel to DC for the events of 241 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: January sixth. Twenty three of the confidential human sources present 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: on January sixth came to the Capitol on their own. 243 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: So of the twenty sixth that we were. 244 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: Sorry, this is where my BS monitor goes off center. 245 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: You're telling me that on January sixth, I'm supposed to 246 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: believe that over twenty FBI informants just on their own accord, 247 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: not being paid, not being directed by anyone in our government, 248 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: just said no, let's go to January sixth and just 249 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: see what happens. 250 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's what the report says. And it says of 251 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: those twenty three, three entered the Capitol during the riot, 252 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: and an additional eleven sources entered the restricted area around 253 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: the capitol. 254 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: So if eleven are restricted areas and three are inside, 255 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: then my next question is how many of them have 256 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: been charged with crimes? 257 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, the report doesn't answer that. And mind you, look, 258 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: these are questions. These are all the questions that I 259 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: was asking the FBI years ago, and that they were 260 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: refusing to answer, and and and their view, there's an arrogance. 261 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: They don't think the they owe the American people an answer, 262 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: and and and and mind you, this FBI has has 263 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: a bad pattern. If you look at the they brought 264 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: a domestic terrorism case in Michigan. If you if you 265 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: recall with the individuals that that were charged with attempting 266 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: to kidnap and murder the governor Michigan, and and they 267 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: prosecuted them, and they ended up having the case thrown 268 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: out because because they concluded the FBI agents and trapped 269 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: these guys that it was basically uh confidential human sources 270 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: in the FBI that were saying, hey, don't you think 271 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: this is a good idea. Let's let's let's go kidnap 272 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: and murder the governor. And and the basic rule of 273 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: criminal law is the federal government can't go entice you 274 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: to commit a crime, all right. 275 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: So so so then let's go back to January sixth 276 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: that day and the questions that you were asking if 277 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: if any of these FBI informants who are there on 278 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: their own accord, is they want us to believe? Over 279 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: twenty are there. 280 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, three were directed by the FBI 281 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: to be. 282 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: There, right, So if if the three that are being 283 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: directed or directing people to commit crimes, let's start with 284 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: those three then and then we'll move on to the 285 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: other twenty. 286 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: What does the law say about that? And the caple. 287 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: So nothing in the report says whether these twenty six 288 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: directed anyone to commit crimes. 289 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: Correct. 290 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: What the report says is the FBI didn't instruct them 291 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: to encourage others to commit crimes. If you're whether they write. 292 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: It or not, right, If you're a whay you're writing that, 293 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: why are you writing it that way? 294 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Explain that? What is the strategy here? Is that? 295 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Because you and I know what the answer probably is, 296 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: so therefore they're writing it that way. 297 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: You know, Look, I don't know, and I will say 298 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: I believe we will know much much more about this, 299 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: uh in the next couple of months, once we have 300 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: Pambondi and cash Ptel confirmed. I think they will release 301 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: significantly more information to the public. I think they both 302 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: understand the public has a right to know what was 303 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: the FBI, what was the FBI's level of involvement, what 304 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: was the culpability. I think there is significant public interest 305 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: in the answers to that, and I think the Biden 306 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: Department of Justice desperately wants to avoid anyone from knowing that. 307 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: But you know what, that's the Democrats lost the election, 308 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: and elections have consequences. 309 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the lie aspect of this real 310 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: quick and what this means. Will there be accountability for 311 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the administration? Will there be accountability for the FBI if 312 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: more of this comes out? Because revealing that twenty six 313 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: FBI informants were presented, President, I should say on January 314 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: the sixth, that is going against what we've been told 315 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: since January the sixth. 316 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, it's not clear to me that 317 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: the FBI lied about this. We started this podcast playing 318 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: my cross examination of a senior FBI official, and she 319 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: just refused to answer me. She didn't lie, she didn't 320 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: say no, they weren't there. She just said, I can't 321 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: tell you that. I can't tell you that. I can't 322 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: tell you that. So that's not a lie. That's not 323 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: something that could be prosecuted for lying under oath Congress, 324 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: because she just refused. That was stonewalling, that was a 325 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: view I owe no responsibility to Congress. And understand listen 326 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: at a hearing when members of Congress are questioning the administration. 327 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: We're not doing so for our own edification. We're not 328 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: doing so just because we think it'd be fun. We're 329 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: doing so because we're trying to fulfill our responsibility to 330 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: our constituents, in my case, to the thirty million Texans 331 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: whom I represent, and ask questions on behalf of those 332 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: Texans that I think they have a right to know 333 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: and they have an interest in knowing. And so when 334 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: the FBI and the Department of Justice arrogantly say I 335 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: won't answer that, they're telling the American people you have 336 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: no right to know what's going on. And I got 337 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: to say, there is a reason. I don't think there 338 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: is a single institution of government whose credibility and respect 339 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 2: has been diminished more in the last four years than 340 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: the FBI. And listen, that's tragic, I'm to tell you. 341 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the American people right now, it's it's 342 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: like fifty over fifty one percent, if I remember correctly 343 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: in the poet saw just the other day, say they 344 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: do not have faith in the FBI. 345 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: That is a travesty. 346 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, And as I said, I spent over an 347 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: hour talking with Cash Hotel today in my office, and 348 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: one of the things I told him is I said, 349 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: regularly in Texas when I'm back home, people will ask me, 350 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't we abolish the FBI, And I tell them, no, Look, 351 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: the FBI does hugely important things. They stop terrorists are 352 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: trying to murder Americans, they stop serial killers, they stop 353 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: ch child predators and kidnappers. All of that. There is 354 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: a massively important law enforcement and national security mission for 355 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: the FBI. And one of the massive negative consequences of 356 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden the Democrats weaponizing the FBI and DJ is 357 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: far too many of their officials are spending time going 358 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: after and trying to persecute the enemies of the White 359 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: House rather than going after actual terrorists who want to 360 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: murder Americans. And it is it I think, and I 361 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: told Cashptell this today. I think he has He and 362 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: Pam Bondy may have the two most difficult jobs in 363 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: the entire administration because they have been nominated to restore 364 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: integrity to two institutions that are tremendously important to the 365 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: rule of law and keeping Americans safe. 366 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: All Right, final question on this, because I want to 367 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: move on to some of the other stuff. But I 368 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: do think this is a very important question. If you 369 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: are someone who has been convicted of all the crimes 370 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: that they threw at you, you took a plea deal 371 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: because you were so afraid of what the government was 372 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: going to do to you because you were in and 373 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: or around January sixth. 374 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 3: Let's say you're an individual that was. 375 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Not violent, for example, and was not attacking the capital 376 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: on that day, but you were there and they came 377 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: after you. How could this affect your case now? Knowing 378 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: and what does this mean for your status if you're 379 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: in jail right now, knowing that this report reveals twenty 380 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: six FPI formants were president on January sixth. With the 381 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: questions now that we're talking about could that change your case? 382 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: Well, it depends, could it? 383 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: Sure? 384 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: And listen, I have long said there's a fundamental distinction 385 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: between those who commit crimes of violence and those who 386 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: do not. If you commit a crime of violence, if 387 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: you violently assault a police officer, I believe you should 388 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: be prosecutor. I think you should go to jail. I 389 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: don't think anybody has a right to assault a police officer. 390 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: And that is true whether I happen to agree with 391 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: your politics or disagree with your politics, nobody has a 392 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: right to commit violence. Nobody has a right to violently 393 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: attack a police officer. The flip side of that, everybody 394 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: has a right to engage in peaceful protest and peaceful speech. 395 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: And by the way, that's true whether I agree with 396 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: you or disagree with you, I may love what you're saying, 397 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: or I may hate what you're saying. You might be 398 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: a complete idiot knucklehead. You might be a klansman or 399 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: a Nazi or whatever. And I despise klansmen and Nazis. 400 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: But you know what, they have a right to speak 401 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: under the First Amendment. They don't have a right to 402 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: commit acts of violence, but they do have a right 403 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: to speak. Everyone has a right to speak. And what 404 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: the Biden Justice Department has done is it is used 405 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: a limited number of acts of violence as an excuse 406 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: I believe to target and persecute a large number of 407 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: people who are engaged in peaceful speech and protest. Now, 408 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: I have, over and over and over again asked the 409 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: Biden Department of Justice simple questions. How many people have 410 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: been prosecuted for crimes of violence on January six? How 411 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: many people have been prosecuted for nonviolent offenses on January six? 412 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: How many people are in solitary confinement. They refuse to 413 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: answer every question I've asked them in writing. They won't 414 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: answer in writing. I've asked them in hearings. They won't 415 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: answer in hearings. They stonewall, and they stonewall and they stonewall. 416 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: It's infuriating. And you know, when I go home to Texas, 417 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: people ask me those questions and I tell them frustratingly, 418 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer. Because the Department of Justice 419 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: has the answer, they will not tell us. Well, here's 420 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: the good news. I think they're getting ready to tell us. 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: And I think they're getting ready to tell us because 422 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: when Donald Trump becomes the president puts new leadership there. 423 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I think they understand that they're accountable to the American 424 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: people in a way that the arrogance of this current 425 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: administration believes they have zero accountability. 426 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the question that many are asking is was this entrapment? 427 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: And more importantly, why did it take us four years 428 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: to learn about this? 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I don't know how you 477 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: want to categorize this one, but when I saw this report, 478 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: it actually made me angry. And that is that the 479 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: Biden administration is saying, Hey, we don't respect the voters, 480 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: We do not respect that the American people decided we 481 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: want security at our southern border, and what are they 482 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: doing to stick it to you? They're saying, all right, 483 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: watch this, We're going to sell pieces of the border 484 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: wall that have not been erected yet, just to say 485 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: screw you to the American people. 486 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: You know, I wish what you were saying was hyperbole. 487 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: I wish it was an exaggeration, but it's not. The 488 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: Daily Wire broke this story, and it's an exclusive story 489 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 2: that is just it's stunning, it's infuriating. Here's the headline, exclusive, 490 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: Biden races to sell off border wall parts before Trump 491 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: takes office. The goal is to move all of it, 492 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: all of it off the border before Christmas, an Arizona 493 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: Border Patrol agent tells the Daily Wire. Let me read 494 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: from this story. The Biden administration is using its final 495 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: weeks to haul a massive amount of border wall materials 496 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: away from the southern border to be sold off in 497 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: a government auction on apparent effort to hinder President elect 498 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Trump's efforts to secure the border. The Daily Wire has learned. 499 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: Videos obtained exclusively by The Daily Wire from a US 500 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: Customs and Border Patrol agent show unused sections of the 501 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: wall being hauled away on the back of flatbed trucks 502 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: from a section of the border just south of Tucson, 503 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 2: a hotspot for illegal crossings during the Biden administration. The 504 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: agent estimates that up to a half mile per day 505 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: of unused border wall is being moved. This is not 506 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: a small amount, this is a massive amount. Continuing the 507 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: quote quote, they are taking it from three stations, Nogalis, Tucson, 508 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: and three points. The Border patrol agent, who was granted 509 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: anonymity to speak freely, told the Daily Wire the goal 510 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: is to move it all off the border before Christmas. 511 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: And here's something If that doesn't make you furious, listen, listen, 512 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: listen to this. The auction website shows that sales occurred 513 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: as recently as December fourth, for precisely the types of 514 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: materials being pulled off the border. Gov Planet has online 515 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: auction set for December eleventh and December eighteenth for more 516 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: border wall material, which is listed on the company's website 517 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: as quote thirty two point nine to one feet by 518 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: seven point nine to one feet steel ballered wall sections 519 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: with grout. The bidding for each section of wall panels 520 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: is set to begin at five dollars according to the website, 521 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: and this article has multiple screenshots showing showing these being 522 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: sold for five bucks apiece. I got to say, we 523 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: talked in the first segment about the arrogance and unaccountability 524 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: of the Biden Justice Department, of the Biden FBI. This is, 525 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that identical arrogance, and 526 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: it's an arrogance of Joe Biden, of Kamala Harris, of 527 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Alejandro Majorcis, of Merrick Garland. And let's be clear of 528 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats and Congressional Democrats. Every 529 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: person in America knows that the voters of America voted 530 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: to secure the border. They want that to happen. And 531 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: you know what the Democrats are saying on the way out, 532 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: screw you. We don't care. We don't care about the voters. 533 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: And what we're going to do. If Trump's going to 534 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: build the border wall, We're going to make it that 535 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: much more expensive because we are so bitterly ideological that 536 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: we will openly defy the will of the voters. 537 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: And let's just be honest about the logic. 538 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: If you're just talking about that, the logical math that 539 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: you do here, there's no doubt that the Biden administration 540 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: knows that this wall will be used, and if they 541 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: do sell it all off before Chris at five dollars 542 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: a panel, that this is going to have to be 543 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: repurchased at a much higher price because they just sold 544 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: what we had purchased before that has not been used 545 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: and it will be used and it will be done. 546 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: So this is just trying to make the American taxpayer 547 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: suffer a little bit and to say we can't stand 548 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: you and what you guys just voted for. This is 549 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: a retribution for you voting them out of office and 550 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: their way of sticking it to the American voter and taxpayer. 551 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's right now. I will say there's an aspect 552 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: of this story that broke tonight. You and I are 553 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: recording this very late at night. It's twelve fifty seven 554 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: in the morning, Thursday night, and just this evening, the 555 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, a good friend of mine, 556 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: went on Laura Ingram Show, and he said the state 557 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: of Texas is preparing to buy up the border wall 558 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: segments from the Biden administration that they're selling for five 559 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: bucks apiece and then donate them back to the Trump administration, 560 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: and Dan Patrick says he has up to a billion 561 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: dollars of state funds to work with. I want you 562 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: to listen to Dan Patrick this evening on Laura Ingram 563 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: laying this out. 564 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: We mean business in Texas, and Tom Holmans means business 565 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: and President Trump means business. And I don't know if 566 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: you heard the latest today, Laura, but Joe Biden is 567 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: now hauling off the border wall that's been lying down 568 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: for years, and he wants to auction it off, starting 569 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: at five dollars a piece. Message to your White House 570 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: right now. I will bid on all of that wall, 571 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: and we will buy it in Texas and we will 572 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: give it to Donald Trump. So I'm going to find 573 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: out first thing in the morning. Where are we going 574 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: to take the bid. I've got a billion dollars in 575 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: my pocket to do it. I write the budget with 576 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: Senator Joan Hoffman. 577 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: We have the money. 578 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: We're going to have about. 579 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: Six billion in our budget for bordershipper. 580 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 3: Down Joe by the costs, don't drive up the costs. 581 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: It's only five bucks of five bucks, I noticed to 582 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: the wall, and I will go in and buy it all. 583 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: Ye I'm tell you, yeah. Well, what does this tell 584 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: you about the Biden people? 585 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: Tells you they're essentially green lights. 586 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: There a lot more people coming in. 587 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're despicable what they're doing to the American people, 588 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 4: and the American people obviously aren't tolerated. That's why they 589 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: were thrown out. But the idea, We've been trying to 590 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: buy this wall form from them for four years and 591 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: they wouldn't sell it to us. 592 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm going to. 593 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: Check in with our Department of Public Safety. Maybe we 594 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: need to start pulling over these trucks to be sure 595 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: they don't have too much weight on those trucks. Maybe 596 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: these trucks need to be slowed down. We need to 597 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: do everything we can in Texas to stop them. The 598 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: taxpayers paid for this, and they want to stop President 599 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: Trump in thirty eight or thirty nine days from rebuilding 600 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: the wall. I want to This is the legacy of 601 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: Joe Biden. He lets off his son, he's letting off 602 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: all these criminals. He's doing everything he can with these 603 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: blue state governors and mayors to destroy this country. They 604 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: are traders to this country, leaving terrorists, leaving murders, leaving 605 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: rapist in this country, and now he wants to sabotage 606 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: this president before he takes off. It is disgraceful and 607 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: discussing he will go down as the worst, most despicable 608 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 4: president in the history of this country because no one 609 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 4: has done more to damage this country and hurt American citizens. 610 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: I would agree with you on that. 611 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: I think the point he's making here is absolutely right. 612 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: But even if it's five hours, you're double paying for 613 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: something that we've already paid for, and it's just solely 614 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: out of spite. 615 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: Well, and let me say number one, thank god for Texas. 616 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: Thank god for Texas stepping in into that leading Dan, 617 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing that, but I've got to say also, listen, 618 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to call on the incoming administration to investigate 619 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: whoever made the decision to do this. And let me 620 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: be clear. Let's say you're a government official, Ben and 621 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: you're pissed off at the people who are coming in 622 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: after you. They're mad at You're mad at the voters 623 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: because they elected someone different. And let's say, for example, 624 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: that you're running you're running a police department. Your dad's 625 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: a cop, You're running a police department, and you've got 626 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: a bunch of police cars that let's say we're forty 627 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: grand apiece, and you're mad because there's a new sheriff 628 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: that's been elected, and so you decide to take the 629 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars police cars. Let's say you got ten 630 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: of them, and you go out and say, I'm going 631 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: to auction the forty thousand dollars police cars off for 632 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: five bucks apiece because you want your successor not to 633 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: have any police cars. And so you sell forty thousand 634 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: dollars police cars for five bucks apiece. I'm going to 635 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: tell you right now that is theft from the taxpayers. 636 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 2: The idea, I guarantee you those segments of the wall. 637 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: They don't cost five dollars, they don't cost fifty dollars, 638 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: they don't cost five hundred dollars, they don't cost five 639 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And I got to say it is grotesque, 640 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: and I am calling right now for the incoming administration 641 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: to investigate every person that made the decision to steal 642 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: from the American taxpayers because they are such bitter partisans 643 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: that they want to deprive the federal government of assets 644 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: that the taxpayers paid for. You don't have the right 645 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 2: to do that it doesn't matter. Nobody has the right 646 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: to steal from the federal government. If you're selling segments 647 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: of this wall for five bucks apiece, that, in my view, 648 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: is absolute theft. 649 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. 650 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: Don't forget to share this podcast wherever you are on 651 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: social media so people can hear what we're exposing on 652 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the show. 653 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: Every day. 654 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: Hit that subscribe or follow or auto download button. Make 655 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: sure you listen to this Monday, Wednesday, Friday my show. 656 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: I'll keep you up to date on what's happening on 657 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: those in between days. 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