1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, Time, time, luck, and load Change 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: of Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: I return to this chamber tonight to report that America's 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: momentum is back, our spirit is back, our pride is back, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: our confidence is back, and the American Dream is surging 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: bigger and better than ever before. This will be our 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: greatest era. With God's help, over the next four years, 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: we are going to lead this nation even higher, and 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: we are going to forge the freest, most advanced, most dynamic, 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: and most dominant civilization ever to exist on the face 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: of this earth. We are going to create the highest 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: quality of life, build the safest and wealthiest and healthiest 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: and most vital communities anywhere in the world. We are 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: going to conquer the vast frontiers of science, and we 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: are going to lead humanity into space and plant the 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: American flag on the planet Mars. 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: And even far beyond. 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: Through it all, we are going to rediscover the unstoppable 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: power of the American Spirit, and we are going to 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: renew unlimited promise of the American Dream. Every single day, 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: we will stand up and we will fight, fight, fight 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: for the country our citizens believe in, and for the 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: country our people deserve. My fellow Americans, get ready for 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: an incredible future because. 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: The Golden Age of. 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: America has only just begun. 27 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: It will be like nothing. 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: That has ever been seen before. Thank you, God bless you, 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: and God bless I'm often asked, because we do a 30 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: three hour morning show and this the evening show, do 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: we talk about the same things. 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: On occasion, the subjects will be the same, the themes 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: of President Trump or what's going on in DC. But 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 3: largely the morning show I talk more Houston and Houston 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: region and Texas politics, and on this evening show more 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: issues of national concern because we have listeners from Oregon 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: to New York, LA to Miami, and we don't want 38 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: to alienate folks with a local Houston show that wouldn't 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: be of interest. But occasionally Texas is at the forefront 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: of a national issue and we have a unique perspective 41 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: and we're going to share that. Today is one of 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: those days. The House of Representatives is very narrowly held 43 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: by Republicans at present. I know you know this, but 44 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: I want to make sure we're all up to. 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: The same speed. Up to speed. 46 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: The Senate is barely narrowly held by the Republicans, and 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: you've got Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski willing to vote 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: for the Democrats more often than not. So that is 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: why JD. Vance has had to come in and break 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: ties when it's fifty to fifty. The vice president serves 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: as the presiding officer, the tie breaking officer, and. 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: So that's what you do. And by the way, there's 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris wrote more Senate ties than any vice president 55 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: in American history by far. So it's well established. President, 56 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: it is constitutional, it is as it should be. But 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: we turned to the House. 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Now. 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: While the Senate is responsible for ratifying treaties, we don't 60 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: really do treaties anymore. Presidents just do what they want 61 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: to do when it comes to foreign policy. That's true 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: of every president. But what you do have is judicial 63 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: nomination nominations. And even though Republicans have the majority, what 64 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: they're doing right now is not going into recess. It 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: is typically the case at this point in the year 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: that the Senate majority leader would resess the Senate. Go home, campaign, 67 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: you got some of you got primaries coming up in 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: the spring. Remember they have six year terms. Go home, 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: go shake hands, go on vacation, take some time off, 70 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: all right, That's what would typically be done at this point. 71 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: That is not what's being done at this point. The 72 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: Senate Majority leader, just as Mitch McConnell did, is keeping 73 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: the Senate in session, at least on paper. What this 74 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: means a pro form a session of this type. What 75 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: this means is that the president cannot get his what 76 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: are known as recess appointments through the Senate. 77 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: Very frustrating. 78 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: That is an indulgence, a privilege typically offered to a 79 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: president that this Republican Majority leader is denying Donald Trump. 80 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: It's been done by every president since the beginning of time, 81 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: and this president is being denied that privilege. Those are 82 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: important positions. Murkowski and Collins two supposed Republicans who don't 83 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: really vote with us. We're smirking, as Thune continued de 84 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: session the other day, and that has set off a 85 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: great deal of anger among the base because we know 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: that those two are really Democrats, and more importantly, they 87 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: hate Trump. Murkowski can't even win a Republican primary in 88 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: the state of Alaska. She has to win with Democrat votes. 89 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: Very frustrating. She's not here to help Donald Trump and frankly, 90 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: neither is Susan Collins so thun because there was a 91 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: congressional trip, a boondoggle the following day, and it's a 92 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: long and sordid history, a story as to why he 93 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: did what he did. But Fune is on the hot 94 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: seat now because of what he's doing to Trump. But 95 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: that's the Senate, that's where we are. Let's move to 96 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: the House. There is a very narrow majority in the House. 97 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: And as you know, out of four hundred and thirty five, Congressman, 98 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: if you get to two hundred and eighteen, you've got 99 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: half plus one. 100 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: You get to elect the Speaker of the House. 101 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: The House is not an equal populist, democratized body. It 102 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: is dominated by the speaker, from Sam Rayburn to Nancy 103 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: Pelosi and now Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson does not wield 104 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: the power of the speaker the way the most powerful 105 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: speaker in American history, Nancy Pelosi did, But he does 106 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: still convene the body. He still does convene the committee chairmanships. 107 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: He makes the committee chairmanships well. Texas is at the 108 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: forefront of whether or not there will be a House majority. 109 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: If there's not a House majority, the stakes are high. 110 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: They will impeach Trump again. They will investigate Trump, they 111 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: will harass Trump. They will spend his last two years 112 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: from January of twenty seven through the end of the 113 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: twenty eighth term harassing him. And Texas is an opportunity 114 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: to flip five seats. This is monumental. And I'll tell 115 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: you what's going on. The nation's battle is being pitched 116 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: in Texas right now, and we'll tell you about it 117 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: coming up. 118 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: And what I see all over the place is people 119 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: who care about looking good while doing evil. The Michael 120 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Very Hugh. So, what's happened. 121 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: Is in many states, the jerrymandering. 122 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Based on race. 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: Has created situations where Republicans may make up forty percent 124 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: of a state and they end up with ten percent 125 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: of the congressional districts. The jerrymandering that has occurred in 126 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: New York, California, and Illinois alone is grotesque. It is 127 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: we go back to the taxation without representation. 128 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: It is election fraud, and it is the. 129 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: Sorts of things that leave people feeling disenfranchised, that leave 130 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: people feeling that evil is afoot in our country and 131 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: that things are wrong. It's the same mindset dare I 132 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 3: say it of Saddam Hussein ruling with an iron fist 133 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: over the people of Iraq when he and his both 134 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: party were out of step with the people of the country, 135 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: but they controlled the means of brutality and authoritarianism. So 136 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: there was always simmering beneath the surface, an anger, a 137 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: brooding anger against Saddam, and that's what eventually turned on him. 138 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: That's what eventually cost him and sent him into running 139 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: into hiding. And by the way, that also happened with 140 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Momar Kadaffi in Libya, where you have a small tribe, 141 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: a small group, a small sect, a small inner. It 142 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: happened to Asad in Syria. And you see these folks 143 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 3: that when the outside protection of the superpowers is withdrawn, 144 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: they end up fomenting these rebellions. And in fact, we've 145 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: seen this across the Middle East where the Muslim Brotherhood 146 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: or Isis or al Qaeda or one of these groups 147 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: hesbella is able to recruit because the party in power 148 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: governs with such an iron hand and suppresses descent. Well, 149 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: all you do is send that descent underground. You make 150 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: it more angry, and frankly, that's what led to the 151 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: Trump presidency the first time in twenty sixteen, people didn't 152 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: want more Clinton's. We had Hillary as an option, We'd 153 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: already had eight years of Bill Barack was supporting. 154 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: We didn't want more of that. 155 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: But frankly, we also didn't want more of the controlled 156 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: opposition Jeb Bush representing the Bush family, we didn't want 157 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: more of the same. So Trump represented, as much as anything, 158 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: a candidate who was going to burn the place down, 159 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: and that's what it needed. That's what it needed. Then 160 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: you have the twenty twenty snap back, where the institutions 161 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: of power decided, we're not allowing any more of this. 162 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: We're going to set them up on January sixth, we're 163 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: going to impeach Trump twice. We're going to investigate him 164 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: with Robert Mueller. We're going to hound him out of office. 165 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: And once they drove him out of office, what did 166 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: they do? They hounded him. They raided his wife's panty drawers, 167 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: probably looking for the documents that he's now exposing. He 168 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: had the good sense not to secret them at his home. 169 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: They did all sorts of things. They dragged him to court, 170 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: the E. J. Carroll case, the Stormy Daniel's case, Jack 171 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: Smith harassing him. 172 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: Fat Fanny, the. 173 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Mistress of Nathan Wade in Atlanta, Big Tish in New York. 174 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: They dragged this man through the mud. Nobody would have 175 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: been able to withstand what they did. 176 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: So here we are. 177 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: Trump says, I'm not going to sit idly by while 178 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: the Democrats take back the House of Representatives. We've got 179 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: jerrymandering that is wrong in Texas. We need to fit it. 180 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: So a new map is created that more fairly and 181 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: justly represents the population of the state of Texas and 182 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: the congressional districts. And it is expected to have the 183 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: effect that five seats will flip from Democrat to Republican. 184 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: One of them, and isn't this glorious is the seat 185 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: currently held by Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett is the ghetto 186 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: girl who runs around screeching and hollering and saying stupid things, 187 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: because that's how you get quoted. The dumber the things 188 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: you say, the more people quote them, even if just 189 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: to laugh at you. She is now the face and 190 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: the voice of the Democrat Party, and that's how we 191 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: want to keep it. But she would be outside the 192 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: district that she currently represents to the extent that she 193 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: represents the district. Now it should be noted, and I 194 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: want to say this a few times, that just because 195 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: she no longer lives in the district that she currently represents, 196 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: once that district is redistricted, even though she doesn't live there, 197 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: she doesn't have to move into that district because you 198 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: are not required to live inside the district that you represent. 199 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: That's a little quirk that a lot of people don't know. 200 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: In fact, you had this fellow as Off in Georgia, 201 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: and you'll remember he won an election for an unexpired term. 202 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: I don't remember why the term. I don't remember why 203 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: the seat even popped up. 204 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it was, uh oh, who was it? 205 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: Somebody had run for an office and had to vacate 206 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: their seat, and he ran for it and didn't live 207 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: in the district where he was, but it didn't matter. 208 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: He still got elected. 209 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: So now President Trump is very invested in the state 210 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: of Texas redistricting plan. So the Democrats, who make up 211 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: less than half of the one hundred and fifty state reps, 212 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: they have sixty some odd seats. I think it's sixty two, 213 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: but we have to have a two thirds majority. So 214 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: one hundred out of one hundred and fifty of the 215 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: state reps be present in order to pass a bill. Well, 216 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: we have a number of bills pending during a special 217 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: session right now. That's a session that was held after 218 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: the general legislative session. And one of the things that 219 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: is an important bill is a flooding bill. We had 220 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: these horrible floods, as you know, we lost these little 221 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: girls that can't miss it. It's just heavy on the 222 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: mind of a lot of Texans. So the Democrats have 223 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: fled the state because they're not going to sit idly 224 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 3: by and show up in the chambers with a minority 225 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: of voters and accept the will of the majority Republicans. 226 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. 227 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: They're going to shut down the government, meaning the government 228 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: cannot operate. The House cannot operate without a quorum without 229 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: two thirds of the members, a provision long standing in 230 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: Anglo American governance. It basically says three members of a 231 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: body can't run off and say we pass sis bill 232 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: and bring it back all the elected all the elected 233 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: officials need to have the opportunity to represent their district. Well, Democrats, 234 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: knowing they can't win, have fled the state. To frustrate 235 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: the state legislature and prevent it from being able to 236 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: operate as it's supposed to. So now you've got the 237 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: governor who's gone to the Supreme Court to have the 238 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: leader of the Democrats removed from the House altogether from 239 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: his position. You've got the Attorney General and the Speaker 240 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: of the House who've brought cases, who brought action. 241 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: All of this is scheduled to hit by Friday. 242 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: And now President Trump is being asked if the FBI 243 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: should come in and arrest these folks, which I would 244 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: love to see, but I don't expect it. 245 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: And again Trump has impressed me before. Michael conjunction. Junction, 246 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: how's that function? 247 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: Erot Gloomball used to glowingly, lovingly refer to Mark Levin 248 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: as the great One. You probably know the story, but 249 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: Martin Levin used to brief Rush Limbaugh on legal matters 250 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: he served in the Mees administration. 251 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: You've seen him on Fox News. You've certainly heard. 252 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Him on the radio, where he has one of the 253 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: largest audiences in all of talk radio history. You may 254 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: have seen him speak in person. He's very effective. But 255 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: he first came to my attention with a book called 256 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: men in robes how the Supreme Court was destroying America, 257 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: and it was a book against judicial activism, something we 258 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: haven't talked about in far too long and far often enough. 259 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what he's best at, television, speaking radio, 260 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: but I know he is an incredibly, incredibly accomplished author, 261 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: and I think part of the beauty there is you 262 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: have time with your thoughts, and he has big ones 263 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: to reduce those thoughts, to edit, to review, to share, 264 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: to present, and then it lasts forever when everything else 265 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: seems to vaporize that we do. He's written another book. 266 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: He's written on liberty, tyranny, Marxism. In fact, maybe the 267 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: best selling book ever by Mark Levin was about a dog, 268 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: a rescue dog. I think it showed a human, tender 269 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: side of him that we all wanted to see. It 270 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: was fantastic. But today he joins us to talk about 271 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: another subject that is at the core of politics, culture, relationships, 272 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: and most everything else, and that is power. The book 273 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: is Mark R. Levin on Power. Welcome Mark. 274 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: You know, Michael, I could sit here and listen to 275 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: you all day. 276 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, we air at the same time, so we 277 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: don't get to listen to each other. I would be 278 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: remiss if I didn't say. My first opportunity to speak 279 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: to a national audience was when Mark Levin honored me 280 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 3: by anointing me to be one of his guest's hosts. 281 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: Oh fifteen years or so, maybe almost twenty years ago. 282 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: It was and still is a great honor that I 283 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: consider a feather in my caps are. 284 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Well. 285 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: You know, Michael, you are a great a great broadcaster, 286 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: but people need to know you're a great lawyer. And 287 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: in fact, the first time we met, I'm trying to remember, 288 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 4: you invited me. 289 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Was it Houston, Yep? 290 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: And we went to Capital Grill. We went to Capitol Grill. 291 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 4: Weren't you a judge down there or something. I'm trying 292 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: to remember. 293 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: I was the mayor pro tem of the city at 294 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, you got a hell of a memory. 295 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: Brother, the mayor pro tem and quite a gentleman. You're 296 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: terristic man. I appreciate you. 297 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: I think the last time I saw you, we were 298 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: in Aspen, Colorado. You were speaking at an event. It 299 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: was a real, real high dollar fundraiser for Republican candidates. 300 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 3: It was at the home of will Van Lowe up 301 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: on top of a hill, overlooking the how you gave 302 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: a rousing speech, a call to activism. And I would 303 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: have loved to have been the preacher at the church 304 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: where the hat was being passed and you. 305 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Had delivered the altar call. 306 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: Because there were some checks written that day, my friend, 307 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: some checks written that day. Mark R. Levint on power. 308 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: First of all, why this subject? 309 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: What was this? Or Mark Levin on drugs, you know, 310 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: or Mark Olivant and his daily Big Mac. 311 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: That's right, I'll tell you why. Because I had this 312 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: injury and I was in bed for about two and 313 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: a half. 314 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: Months, which I hated. 315 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: And so I'm staring at the ceiling and the nerd 316 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: side of me comes out, and I start to think 317 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: about these things, and. 318 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, maybe I'm wrong about some of this. 319 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: Of course, we fight a argue about liberty and analienable 320 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: rights and these sorts of things, but it's really about power. 321 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: As I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about it, and I'm 322 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: thinking that revolutionary rules over power, representative government, what kind 323 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: of government? Who would represent whom? And then I get 324 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: to thinking about the Declaration of Independence? What's that all about? 325 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: And then I'm thinking about modern day with a hard 326 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: left the Marxists and the radical Islamists are constantly trying 327 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: to seize power, and they're trying to constantly try to 328 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 4: jump the barriers in our constitution. And I said, you know, 329 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 4: maybe I need to readjust this a little bit. So 330 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: I put pen to paper and I started thinking about it, 331 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: and I came up with this book on power, and 332 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: I decided power is the central issue, because liberty without 333 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: rights is nothing, and rights without power is. 334 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: Not or nothing, And so how or is the central issue. 335 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: And then when you think about the founding, the reason 336 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: this country's great is because it's based on Judeo Christian values. 337 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: Now that doesn't mean everyone has to be Jewish or 338 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: Christian or believe in it, but that's how the country 339 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: was founded. And the belief is, of course that God 340 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: is sovereign and that on earth his children are sovereign 341 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: when it comes to government and so many other things. 342 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: So each of us are sovereign. And in the civil society, 343 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: in the community, we are the sovereign, not the government, 344 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: not a handful of people running the government. And then 345 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 4: what else or what else is the enlightenment? And so 346 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 4: they fuse this thinking of the Judeo Christian value system 347 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: with the Enlightenment. And one of the key things that 348 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: came out of the Enlightenment that Montesquie wrote about, and 349 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: of course all the way up to SCALEA people have 350 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: argued for, is this power checking power in order to 351 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: protect the individual and our sovereignty. This is the only 352 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: nation ever that mankind is constructed with this fusion of 353 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: this Judeo Christian belief system with the Enlightenment. And as 354 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: I explained in the book, the other side, I say, 355 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: this is positive power, and I explained it at some length, 356 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: and negative power. The other side doesn't believe any of this. 357 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 4: That's why they never talked about God. They never when 358 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: they read the declaration, they cut out the four times 359 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: that God has mentioned. 360 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: They don't reverence that. 361 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: And again, you don't even have to believe in God 362 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: to understand that you benefit from this, no matter who 363 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: you are, or where you're from, or what your background is. 364 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: That's why I say tolerant. 365 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: Beautiful, magnificent type society as opposed to these centralized police states, 366 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: these coercive, miserable countries in which they reject this. So 367 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: the American Marxists and these radical Islamis who poured into 368 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: our country. Their belief system is utterly incongruent with the 369 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 4: American funding and the American experiments, utterly utterly incongruent because 370 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: they come at this from a completely different mindset. 371 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: Does that Does that help? Yeah, I've raised more questions. 372 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: It's it's you've got me thinking. 373 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Does that I got about thirty seconds in this segment. 374 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: Do you does that mean that these individuals at a 375 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: certain level need to be restricted for intrigue because, as 376 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: you've said, and I think most people believe, there are 377 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: certain people from certain cultures who will never share the 378 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: American values that are central to our proper operation of 379 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: our democratic republic. 380 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: Well, to go back to the original meaning of immigration, 381 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: immigration was intended to help the citizens who are here now. 382 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: People come to. 383 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: This country to benefit our country in the existing citizenry, 384 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: not to replace them. So people have to come to 385 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: the country we're willing to assimilate, have allegiance to this country. 386 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: This used to be the test. It's absolutely not the 387 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: test in law. 388 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: It's a very good point. We're talking to the great one, 389 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: Mark Levin. The book is on power, and we'll continue 390 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: our concerts coming over the. 391 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: Words of George and Art Shore and the words that 392 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: were taken by Robert F. 393 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: P These children speak Chinese and banner. Michael Mark Levin 394 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: Bob is my friend. 395 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 3: He is a speaker, a writer, a radio host, a 396 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: television broadcaster, and a great American patriot. It's our honor 397 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: to have him on the show. His latest book is 398 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: called On Power. I'm not intending to stump you, Mark, 399 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm wondering. 400 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: If if you've given this thought, give it a child. 401 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah. 402 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: So potters Throward, of course couldn't define pornographies. And I 403 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: know it when I see it. When you talk about 404 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: on power, you use this word. What does power mean 405 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: to you? Is it control? 406 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: It depends. Positive power is intended to nurture this individual, sovereignty, 407 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: to nurture the individual and the civil society. Look forget 408 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: about government for a second. Let's say civil society's Locke 409 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: talked about it. You still need some level of power 410 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: ordered liberty to protect people's persons, to protect their property, 411 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: to have some means of coordinating the society and so forth. 412 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: So that's power, that's very positive power. But negative power 413 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: is about coercion and force, and it's certainly not about 414 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: consensual government or representative government or anything of the kind. 415 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: So I spend a lot of time on chapter two 416 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 4: explaining what the powers, chapter three explaining what positive power is. Now, 417 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what's interesting as I keep, you know, 418 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: thinking these things through over and over again and researching 419 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: and thinking the chapter on liberty. Do you know nobody 420 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 4: really can define liberty. I mean, they give it a shot, 421 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: and the closest to me is actually Jefferson. But that 422 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: set it's mostly defined by what it's not, it's mostly 423 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: defined by what the problem is. I went back and 424 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: I read On Liberty by John Stewart Mill and it's 425 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: great book, and you get all the way to the 426 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: end and there's and there's a paragraph and that that 427 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: kind of does everything that he said. And you know, 428 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: the libertarians love that book. I don't blame them. So 429 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: I get into that. I go back to Aristotle, who 430 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: talks about liberty but doesn't really define. They go back 431 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: to Cicero, who talks about liberty but really doesn't define. 432 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: I go on Adams, Sam Adams, and I'm looking and 433 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm looking, and I'm looking, and it's one of those 434 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: words that is mostly defined by what it's not sure, 435 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 4: And I thought that was very interesting. But the reason 436 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: that's in there is because words like liberty and rights 437 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: and little deed democracy are used by the negative power crowd, 438 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: the fascist Islamists, the Marxists and so forth. 439 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: They use those words to do. 440 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: To confound. That's why it's the People's Republic of China. 441 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: No it's not, but. 442 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: That's what they call it. Or the Democratic Party, No 443 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: it's not. There's nothing democratic about that party. And they 444 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: do this all the time. They talk about equality. You know, 445 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: equality without liberty is North Korea. You still need liberty. 446 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't just have equality, whatever that means. 447 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 4: And so I get into this in the book. I 448 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: have a chapter on language and fuck control. This whole 449 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: wocism is about controlling the way people think, creating obedience. 450 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: The Scarlett lettery goes on people who don't comply and conform, 451 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 4: whereas the positive power side is we don't want that. 452 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: We're not looking for obedience or that sort of thing. 453 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: We're looking for knowledgeable debates, real discussions on policies and 454 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: issues like we do on radio and so forth, so 455 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: we can come up with the best ideas and so with. 456 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: And so we've used speech as a way of communicating. 457 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: They view speech as a way of controlling and reinforcing, 458 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: and so I get into that end of the book 459 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: as well. 460 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: Mark Levin is our guest. The book is on Power. 461 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: He's fantastic writer. If you've I can't imagine, But if 462 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: you haven't read, what he's written before is an entire 463 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: body of work. 464 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: The latest is on Power. 465 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm curious, as a form of as a medium, how 466 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: you approach writing versus you know, you're a guy that 467 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: has hours with millions every day night. You also do 468 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: a television program, you are widely heard. How do you 469 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: approach writing differently? 470 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: You know, writing allows my brain to go where it 471 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: can't otherwise go. I know that sounds weird, but it's 472 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: a very sort of solemn task. And what's very interesting 473 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: is if I were to ask anybody in the audience, 474 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 4: do you remember what I said on the radio five 475 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: tuesdays ago? 476 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Of course they don't remember. I don't remember. 477 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: But if you want to talk about the written word, 478 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: the written word, people remember, or they remember at least 479 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: some of it, or they can pull it off the 480 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: shelf and take another look at it, or listen to 481 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: the audio version of it. So to me, the written 482 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: word outlasts the spoken word, even though the spoken word 483 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 4: is crucial. 484 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: In the moment. So when I write, I'm very careful 485 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: about what I write. 486 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: I really do put my brain to work to try 487 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: and figure out of things that I'm saying are rational 488 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: and logical. And these books have a purpose. They're like 489 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: puzzle pieces. So each book really follows the next book 490 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: in its own way. 491 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: This book I wrote differently. 492 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: This book I wrote and what I think is a 493 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: very complicated issue in a very understandable, I hope, and 494 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: way that people can grasp it very quickly. 495 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: I can find my mother in law. It was ninety 496 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: six years old. 497 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: She was sitting at and reading it from beginning to end, 498 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: and I said to her, and Sylvilly said, I love 499 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: this book. And she just reads it from beginning to end. 500 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: Some of the other books, you know, people might read 501 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: a few chapters and they'll put it down and so forth. 502 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: But I find people are going right through this thing. 503 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: And that's what I wanted to write, and I wanted 504 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: to write it in a way that has an impact, 505 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: because I do think this is where we are are, 506 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: despite the Trump presidency, and I'm a huge fan of 507 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: what he's been doing. The fact is elections have cycles. 508 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: We don't know what's going to happen in the next election. 509 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: And the fact is when the Democrats win, they try 510 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 4: to make permanent changes, permanent to the system. They're not 511 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: interested in just you know, having powerful four years. They're 512 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: interested in having power period. As I explained in the book. 513 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: In fact, that's all they're about. And if we don't 514 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: understand that, that's what they're about. They're not about the 515 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 4: food stamp program or this program or that program. They 516 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: are about seizing control over you and over the society. 517 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: They are authoritarian democrats. That's what I call them in 518 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: the book, authoritarian democrats. We go through the voting system, 519 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 4: we have these three branches of government, we have a constitution. 520 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: But they don't believe in any of it. In the end. 521 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: That's why they threaten them, want to pack the Supreme Court. 522 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: That's why they brought in, you know, millions of people 523 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: to replace the citizenry. That's why they trash the constitution 524 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: and who wrote the constitution while they wave it around 525 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: and pretend, depending on the event, whether they support it, 526 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: and I can go on and on and on. These 527 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: are not people who support the American experiment that professors don't, 528 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: the politicians don't, and so it is very important to 529 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: understand what we're up against here. 530 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: This is a battle over power. I hope folks will 531 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: read it. 532 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: I hope it has what I suspect is the intended consequence, 533 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: which is to understand how people acquire and wield the power. 534 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: When I can guarantee you you are going to learn 535 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: a lot, because Mark Levin is, more than anything else, 536 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: a teacher just as Rush was, and a great teacher 537 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: he is. I'm proud to call him my friend. The 538 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: book is on Power by Mark Arlevin. Mark, as always, 539 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: I've learned a lot and I've enjoyed our time together. 540 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, my friend. Move to brother. 541 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: I love you. You'd take carriers