1 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack Jam. 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: I'mkaannie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: today is the preseason is quickly wrapping up as we 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: get ready for the final preseason game of the year 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: on Friday against the Atlanta Falcons. So this week a 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: little bit like a game week as far as practice goes. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: We'll start off with big thing Number one, which is 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: dynamic defense. Darnell Savage, who's been playing with a red 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: jersey on all of training camp, finally got that off 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: so was able to fully practice this week, and he 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: took talk to the media earlier this week a little 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: bit about what he sees from the defense. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: And I feel like it's rare that you have a 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: defense that's dynamic because normally you think of offenses a 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: dynamic But I feel like the defense dynamic unless the 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: player maker gonna make plays. So I think it's perfect 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: fit for me. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: John, We've talked a bunch about how the players have 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: been taken to Ryan Nielsen's defense. They a lot of 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: them feel like they can play like themselves, go out 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: and make plays. Is that something we'll hopefully see in the. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: Preseason game this week. 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a little bit. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have the starters play in probably 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 5: for three series, so I expect to see it a 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 5: little bit. I don't put too much stock in what 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 5: we see in preseason after the starters go out in 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 5: terms of what we'll see from the Ryan Nielsen defense. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: But I think so far, if you're doing a report 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 5: card in the defense, you're seeing him play faster, You're 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: seeing him play more aggressive. 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: It feels like they get it. 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: Brian, those are sort of the boxes you wanted to 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: check her in preseason until the regular season started. 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 6: John, I'm trying to think of a time where the 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 6: Jaguars have added a coordinator on either side of the 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 6: ball where there has been great anticipation of what would happen, 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 6: and it would happen so quickly. I mean, it's almost 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 6: as if the minute he showed up here everything changed. 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 6: So it's interesting to watch everybody on this defense figure 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 6: out their role, whether it's Chad Muma, who's had a 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 6: really good preseason stepping into that strong side. We'll get 43 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 6: a chance to look at Darnelle Savage for the first time, 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 6: and the word on him is he is made to 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 6: play nickel in this defense because he's a guy who 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 6: can play man in the middle or he can play 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 6: in his zone package. He is a very versatile interior 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 6: defensive back who we haven't seen except in a very limited. 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: Fashion so far. Our second big thing today is going 50 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: to be moving up. 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot too about some of the second 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: year players Parker Washington, Tank Figsty, but we've seen some 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: of the rookies really showing out, and one of them 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: in particular, Mason Smith, that second round pick, and he 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: talked a little bit about what he's been. 56 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: Learning and training him. 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 7: Consistency, you know, coming into. 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: The next level. 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 7: You know, that's something that I really wanted to focus on, 60 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 7: you know, just not being up and down and you know, 61 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 7: not having a great game and then coming back in 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 7: and having a great game. So it's just, you know, 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 7: more about being more consistent. And I think that still 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 7: applies to this day, like you know, just being able 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 7: to stay at a high playing at a high level 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 7: each and every game, each and ever practice. You know, 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 7: you got to bring it every day in the league. 68 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 7: Who is being able to do that and continue to 69 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 7: grow in that espit. 70 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: Brian, He's working on that consistency. If we get to 71 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: see the high end of Mason Smith every day. That 72 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: pick's going to be. 73 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: A home run. 74 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 6: You know, I've said it before, but when they drafted 75 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 6: him in the second round, it reminded me instantly of 76 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 6: Chris Jones, who slid into the second round back in 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, of Jeffrey Simmons, who slid a few years 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 6: ago down into the bottom of the first round, both 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 6: of whom had the same pedigree, both of whom had 80 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 6: the same size, speed, both of whom were disruptive playmakers 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 6: in college. It's high praise and it's not yet earned. 82 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 6: But when you start to see how big he is, 83 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 6: how long he is, how impressive he is in terms 84 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 6: of his work ethic, and the fact that at times 85 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 6: he's been unblockable on the practice field out there, you 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: could see where this could be the lightning and a 87 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: bottle home run kind of draft pick. But the Jaguars 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 6: have long looked for in the middle of their defensive line. 89 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: John Yeah, I think fans still wonder about Mason Smith 90 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: because the sample size in preseason games has been limited, 91 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: so it can be tough for a defensive interior guy 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 5: to make that huge impact play when there's a small 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: number of plays, But as Brian said, there have been 94 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 5: times during practice where he's starting to come on. He's 95 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: starting to do things that make you think, Okay. Over 96 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: the course of a season, we're gonna see that as 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 5: he gets more comfortable, as he as he starts to 98 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 5: learn his surroundings, as he learns about matchups. Really, the 99 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 5: two top two draft picks sort of have followed the 100 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: same line during training camp practices, Brian Thomas Junior and 101 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: Mason Smith. 102 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Feels like they're starting to get it again. 103 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: I I usually expect little from rookies. I think these 104 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: guys are gonna contribute. 105 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: Our final big thing today is gonna be open spots. 106 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: So we know that T. D. 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Bethard left preseason game number two with a goin injury. 108 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: He's been ruled out for this week. Reports are that 109 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: e J. Perry, who's been a backup in the system, 110 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: will be back in the building as well. Now, John, 111 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: does that automatically open up a roster spot there if 112 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: they were to carry three quarterbacks? What do we kind 113 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: of looking at that long term with the quarterbacks A. 114 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: Tu Well, it feels and it is your speculation. 115 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: E J. 116 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Perry did sign it? 117 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 5: This guy to email on my trusty iPhone, it feels 118 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: Brian like it may be CJ. Bether to either go 119 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: into injured reserve to start the season, because you can 120 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: get two guys through that this year, you don't have 121 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: to end their season by putting them on IR. Four 122 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: to fifty three comes out, So maybe Trevor Lawrence mac 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: Jones backup, put CJ on injured reserve if you want 124 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 5: to take that route with EJ. Perry as your practice 125 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: squad short term emergency, that's one scenario. I don't know 126 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: if that's the path they're going to take. 127 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 6: Well, obviously it depends on how things shake out on 128 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 6: Friday night, if there are any other injuries to players 129 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 6: that you really need to get through as opposed to 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: a guy like CJ that you're thinking is your practice 131 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 6: squad third quarterback. Maybe that isn't available to them, but 132 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: I get what you're saying. You need to have a 133 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: guy who can operate the practice squad, the scout team, 134 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 6: and that looks like it could be EJ. Perry because 135 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: for an older guy like c J. Bethard, groin can 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 6: be something that takes a little while to get through it. 137 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 6: This could force the Jaguars hands at the quarterback position. 138 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: Stay with us here on JAGSAM. 139 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we're gonna hear from Defectsive 140 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: coordinator Ryan Nielsen and what he had to say about 141 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: what he's seen from his players during training camp. 142 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: Sea Fields First. 143 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: Jackson Neale's premier luxury auto group go to Fieldsauto dot com. 144 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back into jag ZM. 145 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: We heard from the kinds of coordinator Ryan Neilson yesterday 146 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: and he has a. 147 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Lot to say. 148 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: He's definitely a quotable guy when talking about trying to 149 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: whittle down this roster and what he's looking for and 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: implementing this new scheme. 151 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: He talked about how the players are taking to. 152 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 8: It, the knowledge of the scheme, feel like they're they're 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 8: doing a great job. The players, uh are coaching staff. 154 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 8: You know that that combination of those guys were working 155 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 8: in the meetings, things like that, picking things up walk 156 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 8: through was awesome. Today. You know, those guys are on 157 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 8: top of it, really locked in, fired up about the 158 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 8: direction that it's gone in terms of the whole combination 159 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 8: of everything. But yeah, we're gonna keep pushing every day, keep. 160 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: Pushing them every day. But they have to make those 161 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: roster decisions soon. 162 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. 163 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 6: I kind of mentioned it in the first block with John. 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 6: I'm struggling to remember a defensive coordinator or a coordinator 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: on either side of the ball that's come in with 166 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 6: high expectations that has delivered such immediate results their training 167 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 6: camp preseason. So we got to get to the regular 168 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: season to see it. But I talked to Corey Robbinson 169 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 6: yesterday who coaches the cornerbacks, and Chad Mumo yesterday and 170 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 6: the way that they communicated what this defense is, how 171 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: they're working through it with Ryan Nielson, their enthusiasm for 172 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 6: what's possible. John, I don't think it's ever happened here 173 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: in Jacksonville that the expectation has been this high and 174 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 6: the delivery has been so quick. 175 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I'm not going to sit 176 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: on a show and say it's delivered. When they have 177 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: Miami sitting there week one, then we'll see if it's delivered. 178 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: But everything you're talking about is real, the communication, how 179 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: it feels, how these players feel confident in what they're doing. 180 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: That's the first step. I think they have the right 181 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: personnel in place. I think they know the defense. I 182 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: think it fits I guess we'll seeing them up. 183 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Shell talked a bunch of men about Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson. 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: We've seen flashes from now that he's healthy and. 185 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Back out there. 186 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: Nielson also talked about that interior defensive line in the 187 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: depth that they have. 188 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 8: Guys have done a really good job, Jeremy Garrett. He's 189 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 8: done an excellent job with those guys fundamentals, technique wise, 190 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 8: getting them to play really hard, you know. So, Yeah, 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 8: it's gonna be a tough, tough decision. Excited about all 192 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 8: the guys at that position, really, and we've rolled three 193 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 8: four guys with the noose and tackle position in all 194 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 8: these games, so it's been it's been pretty good. So 195 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 8: we'll see. We'll see what it when it comes down 196 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 8: to the that time and have really right now having 197 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 8: no idea. 198 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,119 Speaker 2: I mean, that might be some of the more difficult 199 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: roster decisions. 200 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: John. 201 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: We saw a heavy rotation there, but even you know, 202 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: players that we've seen a lot of, Roy Robertson Harris 203 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: was playing deep into Yeah, that first game played a 204 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: good chunk of the second game as well. So people 205 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: aren't secure at a spot necessarily. 206 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 5: No, I don't think there's secure and there's been a 207 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: lot made of the Roy situation. It it it feels 208 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: like what they're saying is right, meaning uh, Roy didn't 209 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: play much to a no tas if at all with 210 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: an injury, so they're trying to get him reps, trying 211 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 5: to get him up to speed. I there's always talk 212 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 5: among fans about what they don't do in the offseason. 213 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Well, they didn't add enough here or there to do what 214 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: they did do. 215 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: They went hard at making this a stouter defensive front. 216 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 5: Jordan Jefferson, Mason Smith, Eric Armstead, uh adding to what 217 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 5: was already Devon Hamilton, Josh Heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker. 218 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 5: Uh Brian I just listed off seven or eight guys 219 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 5: who you feel like you don't have to get. 220 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Exotic to stop the run around here. 221 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 5: That's important because if you can stop the run just 222 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 5: doing your basic things, freeze everything up. 223 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: I know that's what they wanted to do. It sure 224 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: feels like they're stouter than they were in the last 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: six games last year. 226 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 6: You know, I don't see Roy Robertson Harrison not being 227 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 6: here right. I think he is here, and I think 228 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 6: if you start thinking about roster spots that might cost 229 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 6: a sixth linebacker, or a fourth running back or a 230 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 6: fifth safety, you know, someone else somewhere else that the 231 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: coaching staff wanted to carry. But they were so what's 232 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: the right word, ineffective? Poor, bad against the run at 233 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 6: the end of the year last year, in that game 234 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 6: that could have decided the playoffs. I don't think you 235 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 6: can let a big guy like ro Robertson Harris get 236 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 6: away from you. No, Mason Smith is going to be 237 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: really good, and Jordan Jefferson shows signs of being a 238 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 6: really good young football player as well. You want them 239 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: on your roster, you want them contributing, but you also 240 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 6: need Roy roberts and Harris. 241 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, they're not there quite yet. Some of 242 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: those young guys. 243 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: Also, Nielsen talked a little bit about We talked this 244 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: week was more like a practice week as you would 245 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: see in the regular season, as they work on game 246 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: planning specifically for the Falcons, but also maintaining their identity. 247 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 8: You don't want to lose the focus that it's about us, 248 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 8: it's about Jacksonville. 249 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: You know. 250 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 8: What you do want to focus on is kind of 251 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 8: what it looks like. This is what a reach block 252 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 8: looks like. This is what you know, a fade route 253 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 8: looks like, or a particular route of particular run play 254 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 8: with you know, but when you look at the league, 255 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 8: it's it's a lot of the offenses are very similar rights, 256 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 8: and so what we want to do is we want 257 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 8: to show them, show our players, you know, here's here's 258 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 8: what you're going to what it's going to look like. 259 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 8: But hey, let's really focus on our alignments, our assignments, 260 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 8: and our fundamentals and how we have success versus these plays. 261 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 8: So yeah, so we're game planning a little bit in 262 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 8: terms of, you know, kind of who they are, what 263 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 8: they do, but we always and this will go through 264 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 8: then it's always a focus on us and what we do, 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 8: how we think, how we. 266 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 6: Act, how we play. 267 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: I always want to play the best style for yourself, 268 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: but it is important to game plan for your opponent. 269 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: Nielsen talking a little bit there, Brian, what do you 270 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: learn from your team when you finally start game planning 271 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: and going over these schemes, It gets a little more 272 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: complicated than just going out there and doing what you 273 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: know playing football. 274 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to see them carry it over right 275 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: from the meeting room to the practice field to the 276 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 6: game field to execute the specific assignments that they're given. 277 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: The hard part about this week, guys that we know 278 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 6: that the Falcons are not going to play many of 279 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 6: their frontline guys, and so some of the game planning 280 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 6: elements that they work on on the field aren't going 281 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: to be quite as impactful as if you're trying to 282 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 6: stop Jon Robinson right, or Kyle Pitts or Drake London, 283 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 6: you know, those great players. However, it does give you 284 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: an opportunity to be able to take the young players 285 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 6: through the process of what a game plan week looks like, 286 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 6: what a normal regular season week of preparation looks like, 287 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 6: and then execute on Friday night no matter who you're planning. 288 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: Again, yeah, it's become interesting during preseason since they went 289 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: to three. There used to be sort of a best 290 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: practices in the NFL that nobody would. 291 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: Play anybody week one, et cetera. 292 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: You get to week three, you'd play starters through a 293 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: half in game plan, and now everybody's sort of approaching 294 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 5: it differently. So I think what Ryan Nielsen talked about 295 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 5: is what you have to do week three. These days, 296 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 5: you want a game plan, you want to do your routine. 297 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 5: They call it a dress rehearsal. Make this week for 298 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: players as much like a game week as possible, so 299 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 5: that the rookies know where the bathrooms are, you know. 300 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: And so once you establish that, then I think these days, 301 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: whereas maybe four or five years ago you would game 302 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: plan a little hard for this, I think now you 303 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: game plan because you want the rookies and young players 304 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 5: to know what it's like to game plan to go 305 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: through that routine. I don't think you were as worried 306 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: about like how it looks on Friday, because I don't 307 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: think you say I know who you're playing anymore. So 308 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 5: it's very important for the rehearsal and the routine, but 309 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: they still want to work on themselves because there's still 310 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: little practice time. 311 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: He says, listen, and I get that. I would wonder though, 312 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 6: if it doesn't change Doug Peterson's approach to some of 313 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: his starters to be in there playing against guys who 314 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 6: are likely going to be looking for, you know, practice 315 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 6: squad spot somewhere else or a job right because they're 316 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 6: at the bottom end of the roster and they're going 317 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 6: to be out of football. 318 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Hotly finding a job. It'll be at Macism wherever it is. 319 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: You get my point? 320 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 6: Do I really want my frontline guys out there playing 321 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: against guys who are desperate to make a play so 322 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 6: they might hang on there? If I'm Doug Peterson, I'm like, yeah, 323 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 6: let's get a series or two. And I think Doug 324 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: did kind of allude to this on Monday when he 325 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: said we'll see how it goes. Right. At some point 326 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 6: you're like, yeah, let's not risk that. So you almost 327 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 6: want to get the coaches together and go, hey, look 328 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: in that third preseason game, right, can we agree we're 329 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: going to play some guys right? Or when don't play anybody? 330 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: Which sounds like collusion, but the reality of it is 331 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 6: is that you would like to not risk starting football 332 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 6: players against guys who are going to make desperation moves. 333 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that after the 334 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: break coming up. We're going to do with this or 335 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: that as we look ahead to the final preseason game. 336 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: For eleven years, Dringfinders Homes has been proud to call 337 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit 338 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: dremfinders homes dot com for all the available inventory and 339 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: go Jags. 340 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 9: Third and final preseason game, we usually let the starters 341 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 9: play a little bit more, you know, And again it 342 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 9: depends on the circumstance and the way the game goes, 343 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 9: but you'd love to get maybe two quarters, you know, 344 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 9: out of them, you know. But we do take a 345 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 9: look at Atlanta a little bit and we simulate a 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 9: game week schedule wise, now that camp has broken, and 347 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 9: that's probably the only reason, you know, these weeks are 348 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 9: are important to get the guys, you know, no longer 349 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 9: in the hotel, they're living at home, transportation here, all 350 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 9: that kind of stuff. It just it simulates and sort 351 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 9: of feels like a game week. 352 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: This. 353 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 5: Oh, that's this or. 354 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: That's two very different philosophies. Let me do a little 355 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: this or that. Doug Peterson very much in the camp 356 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: of play your starters during the preseason. As we mentioned, 357 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: the Falcons are not going to be doing that whatsoever 358 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: in this game. I think the Bears have also come 359 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: out said they're not going to do it. Sean McVay 360 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Verry notoriously doesn't like to do it with his players. 361 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Where do you guys. 362 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: Land on this? 363 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: I think it depends a little bit about what kind 364 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: kind of team that you have. But are you rest 365 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: everybody so that don't get hurt, or you play them 366 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: because that's their jobs they should play. 367 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 6: I'm playing guys, and I'm trying to put them in 368 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 6: situations where they can get accustomed to the speed of 369 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: the game because you don't practice full speed like you 370 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: play and the physical side of it. I mean Aspaselli. 371 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 6: The next time you see him, he'll tell you. All 372 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: these guys will tell you that you have to get 373 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: ready for the physical side of the game. They don't 374 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 6: want you to kill them and make them play two 375 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 6: quarters of all three games, but they do need some 376 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 6: time on the field to get ready for the regular 377 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 6: season so that that caliber of play doesn't look like 378 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: preseason ball. 379 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I think it's a little case by case. 380 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: Generally, with most teams, I would probably play them the 381 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: way Doug does, meaning I like how he does. Whenever 382 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 5: you're not doing a duel, go ahead and play him 383 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: for a couple of series the weeks to do a duel. 384 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: Really use that work. That makes sense in terms of 385 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 5: getting the right number of snaps. If I was a 386 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: coach and had a super high functioning side of the ball, 387 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: I probably would air on the way that the Chiefs 388 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 5: seem to be doing it, which is to not play 389 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: their guys all that much during the preseason. Beyond that, 390 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 5: I think the benefits of being ready, of having those. 391 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: Juices, all that stuff. 392 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 5: I think usually I would play guys about the way 393 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 5: Doug does it, because it's football. 394 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: You gotta be ready for it. 395 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: John, do you feel like because of the way they 396 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: practice now, with less pad of practice, that these games 397 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: become more important? 398 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: No, I mean. 399 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna sit here and say preseason games are important. 400 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: I think they're uber important for evaluation. I think in 401 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: terms of prepping for the regular season. Realistically, we're in 402 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: a phase right now where you're always gonna see the 403 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: first three weeks of the regular season be some almost 404 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: shaking off the rust, cause it's just never gonna be 405 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: again where you feel like you can take six games 406 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 5: and hit and be ready. 407 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: I just never think we're going back to that. 408 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: So I always think tackling early in the season and 409 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 5: some functionality. I always think there's gonna be a little 410 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: bit of rust to knock off first two weeks. 411 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 6: I do think that the way that they practice has 412 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 6: a negative impact on the game in terms of the 413 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 6: physical side of it. They can't tackle no, right, I 414 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: mean you see that, see that. But so I do 415 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 6: think that that's why you've got to have these preseason 416 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 6: games and get time because otherwise the first month of 417 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 6: the season looks like the preseason, then the networks aren't 418 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 6: paying for the fans aren't paying for that. You have 419 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: a duty to get teams ready so that the regular 420 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 6: season looks like regular season football and not preseason. Hey, look, 421 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 6: this is a it's a tough, physical game. Guys get hurt. 422 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 6: You can't change that, right, I mean, look at how 423 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 6: safe they've made the helmet in the head, how they've 424 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: taken out of the game, and you still have guys 425 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 6: getting concussions. Anton Harrison suffered wanting practice out here. It 426 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: speaks to the nature of the game, which is as 427 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 6: hard as you work to be safe and secure in it, 428 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 6: it is not a safe and secure game. So I'm 429 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 6: going to air on the side be cautious with guys, right, 430 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 6: I'm going to know Christian Kirk has a calf. I'm 431 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 6: not gonna play them right, but I'm gonna get my 432 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 6: guys in there and get time from them because I 433 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: need them to be ready to go on Opening Day. 434 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 6: And I want my guys to be better than the 435 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: guys across from them on opening day. So I don't 436 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 6: care what the Rams do, I don't care what the 437 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 6: new age coach does. I'm going to take the old 438 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 6: school approach and I'm going to play some guys in August. 439 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: Brian's harden nose coach, Well, I just. 440 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: You know, I mean, listen, you can't get away from 441 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 6: the fact that football is a fit is a gladiator game. 442 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 6: You can't make it basketball on grass, and I think 443 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 6: we're kind of getting to that in August. 444 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: Let's move things along. 445 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about the offensive line 446 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: because co Football Focused with their rankings coming out says 447 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: one of the Jaguars is the best offensive lineman so 448 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: far in the preseason Offensive Player of the Week even 449 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: cole Van Landon, would. 450 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: You have guessed if I gave you five guesses who 451 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: was going to be? 452 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: No, probably not, and it look I'm sure cold played fine. 453 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: I don't know enough aspens the line played and know 454 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: whether you did or not. 455 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: Sometimes I don't know exactly how PFF grades on that front, 456 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: but the credit to them, Listen, they. 457 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 6: Have so many grades and I don't understand I get 458 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 6: it that there are people who played high end fantasy 459 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 6: football and probably some gambling, you know, methodology, and they're somewhere, 460 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 6: But they have so many grades and none. 461 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 4: Of them are relative to me. 462 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 6: I just I don't know what the grade needs. 463 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: Well, let's say Cole had a great game. I'm sure 464 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: you've played well. 465 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna use that kind of move into our other 466 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: this or that, which is there's a couple examples, specifically 467 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: on the offensive and defensive line, where there's a veteran 468 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: that's been here and knows your system very well, but 469 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: there's also maybe a first second year player that has 470 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: a high ceiling but maybe hasn't gotten there just yet. 471 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: When you are where you are with the Jaguars, which 472 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: is when now, according to Shad Khan, do you err 473 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: on the side of, Hey, this person already knows their system, 474 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: but maybe they're not gonna get much better than they 475 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: already are. Or do you with a proven vet, or 476 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: do you kind of take that younger guy and hope 477 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: they come along this year or next year and get 478 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: you there. 479 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 6: I didn't catch the snarow off the top. Is the 480 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: guy that I'm thinking about moving on from a starter 481 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: or is he a backup? 482 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Is he Orlando led Better right? 483 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: Or is he Roy Robertson Harris he is? 484 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: It could be either. It could be Jeremia led Better, 485 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: could be Roy Robertson Harris. I'm talking maybe a yeah, yeah, 486 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: maybe at cole Van Lannon. Who is you're looking at 487 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: maybe or behind Walker little like right there, filling in 488 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: if someone's hurt again, or are you working more with 489 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 2: Javon Foster hoping he gets there? 490 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: So I'm going more with Javon Foster, trying to develop him. 491 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: I'm going more with Jordan Jefferson and Mason Smith over 492 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 6: Jeremiah Ledbetter. Nothing against led Better. He's thirty one years old, right, 493 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 6: Van Land has been around here for a couple of years. 494 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 6: And I mean maybe the PFF grade says he's a star. 495 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 6: I haven't seen it, right, He's not in danger of 496 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 6: cracking my starting lineup. To me, he's a cusp guy. 497 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Right, I'm moving on. 498 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 6: I'm going with youth because it's a young man's game. 499 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 5: I think what you do here is you get you 500 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: essentially usually carry about eight or nine offensive line. Say 501 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 5: you carry nine, you know you're starting five. You have 502 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: two developmental guys in Javon Foster and in Cooper Hodges, 503 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: they were young guys. 504 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: And then you want to make sure you have two swing. 505 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: Guys in Walker Little and maybe Shatland I'm not hopefully 506 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: from In some cases your young developmental guy can be 507 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 5: your swing guy as well. And then what you want 508 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: is maybe where Cole fits Cole, Van Lanen, Tyler, Shatley, 509 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 5: Williams Derrel. Well, you know you want four or five 510 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: guys who you can move to the practice squad. Feel 511 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: good about the totality of that. If you lose one, okay, 512 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 5: well good luck to you. But so that you have 513 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: some guys you can rotate in that are sort of interchangeable. 514 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: So I think that's what you try to do. I 515 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: try to avoid the question, but I think that's the 516 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: approach you try to take in this day and age, 517 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: where you can. 518 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Act like the practice squad is a little more part 519 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: of your roster. 520 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: Shotley's a culture guy. I'm keeping Shotley because he is well. 521 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 6: First of all, he's one of the quarterbacks guys, right, 522 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 6: and it always helps to have them. Plus it's just 523 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 6: a great guy to have in the locker room. But 524 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 6: I need young and promising as opposed to, Hey, maybe 525 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 6: this guy can play if we need him. 526 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Where all the puzzle pieces come together, as the roster 527 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: comes together. We'll talk a little bit more about it 528 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: tomorrow as we get closer to that deadline. But a 529 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: lot of different things in play, for sure, say with 530 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: us here on Jagzam. 531 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: We'll be right back preview the. 532 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 6: Rest of the week. 533 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: Jags fans, if you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, 534 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: check out zipchare dot com to browse all the customizable options. 535 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: Zipchair is furniture for fans. Welcome back to jag Zam. 536 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: We're wrapping things up as we get ready for preseason. 537 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Game number three will be in Atlanta on Friday. 538 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: I have all access tonight, that is back. 539 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: We'll be at String Sports Brewery tonight, right down the 540 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: street from John. 541 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: Maybe he'll wander down if I can them into it. 542 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: No, maybe we'll see are you buying day? 543 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: Maybe Longman, Well, he's a very generous guy. 544 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: What are you guys looking forward to? Obviously we'll see 545 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: the starters a little bit. I'm just hoping maybe the 546 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: offense gets you know, a good solid scoring driver two 547 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: and then get them out of there. 548 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: What are you guys hoping to see? 549 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: I want to see the defense continue to elevate, right, 550 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: to continue to play fast and make plays. I mean, 551 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 6: last week we saw all the twos and threes and 552 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 6: they looked good. They looked fluid in a defense that's 553 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 6: new to them. I'd like to see some of the 554 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 6: starters again get out of the game healthy, but for 555 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 6: the time that they're in there, continue to keep the 556 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 6: level of it up. 557 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: And maybe watch those top three rookies Thomas Jerry and 558 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: Jones and Mason Smith to see if now they were 559 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks away for the regular season, Falcons 560 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: aren't playing any starters, look for them to look like 561 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 5: they belong. 562 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: How many roster spots do you think? 563 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: I know we'll get into this a little bit next 564 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: week too, but how many are up? Anybody gonna win 565 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: themselves a roster spot on Friday. 566 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: Night only if they're in a neck and neck battle, right, 567 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: I mean, what do you figure there are four or 568 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: five spots that are legitimately open at this point, not 569 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: counting the practice squad, which we've said, right with sixteen players, 570 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, if you go I go back 571 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 6: to Stacey Mack in two thousand, he made an incredible 572 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 6: play in the preseason finale in Dallas and had like 573 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 6: a seventy nine yard reverse touchdown run. They ended up 574 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 6: keeping him that year and they needed him and he 575 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: played pretty well, so he wasn't gonna make the roster originally, 576 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 6: but that play was the difference. But he was right there, 577 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 6: neck and neck with a couple of other guys. 578 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, last running back, last wide receiver, defensive line. Sure, 579 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 5: there are roster spots up for grabs, I would say, 580 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: I think anybody who loses a last second battle, it 581 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 5: is probably on the practice squad. So it's a little 582 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: disingangous they're not gonna be here. That's will be part 583 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 5: of it. But making those decisions in the fifty three 584 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 5: you can make them tougher. 585 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll be back with you here on 586 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: JAGXAM tomorrow as we look ahead to that final roster 587 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: cut and the final preseason game of the year.