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Don't wait, don't hesitate. 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you because you bring up an 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: interesting point. You're a native New Yorker. Affordable housing is 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: something that's very big topic these days, and the rent 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: skyrocketed as skyrocket over the last decade. I think the 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: average manha rent is like close to four thousand dollars 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: right now for one bedroom. 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: It's too much. 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: And a lot of those programs that you described that 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: even that you grew up and have been taken away. 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts on you know, affordability in the 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: city of New York. 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's very hard to find. I mean, 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: in so many ways, we're just being priced out of everywhere. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 4: It's very difficult for anybody to find a quality of life, lifestyle. 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: It's hard I think about, you know, I hear this 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: from so many people, and so many young people just 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: starting their careers and wanting to figure out, like, I 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: love this city. 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: I want to stay in this city, but I. 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Got to live like six hours away to be able 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: to do anything. 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: So it's unfortunate. It's definitely unfortunate. 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: And I feel like this is such a great example 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: of what can come of affordable housing. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: Well that's what I because I think you are actually 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: an advocate almost for it, because you said you it 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: was a building for artists, right. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, really was specifically for artists, and I think my 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: mother explained that also that they had to have thirty 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: percent of people from that particular neighborhood or that currently 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: lived in the neighborhood as well, which is also important 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: because then people come from all over, but those in 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: the neighborhood don't get the same opportunity. So that's something 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: to think of it. We see that in Harlem, we 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: see that in Brooklyn. You know, so much of that 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: that regentrification. 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: So it's important because it's like, let's say, for instance, 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: you were not able to live in that building, right 70 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: and you had to grow up in Connecticut or some 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: other place. Right now, you never might not have become 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: who you became, and now you're actually contributing to the 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: economy of the city now, right, So now it's a 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: full circle moment fact you actually are somebody that had 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: benefited from that affordable housing situation. Because a lot of 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: times people don't have sympathy. They're like, if you can't 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: afford to live here, then don't move here. But it's 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: like if we take away if we take away to artists, 79 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: if we take away the creatives, if we take away 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: people that might not have the finances to pay four 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month, then we actually are hurting the 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: whole ecosystem, right, And I think, like I said, you're 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: actually a perfect example of that because you're a native 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: child who actually not only became extremely successful, but now 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: you have a player on Broadway and now millions of 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: dollars being generated. 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: That's a fact that's such a huge point in being 88 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: able to being able to have that experience, being able 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: to grow up close to different creative cultural places, experiencing 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: different styles of art forms. You know, having that access 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: it does it changes it. It changes your experience, It 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: changes your relationship with it. It changes what you can 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: imagine for yourself as you could dream for yourself. I mean, 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: you know, growing up on tenth Avenue, it was always 95 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: it was so bleak, and it was so drastically different 96 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 4: from just walking out to Avenue is over three avenues 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: over that seventh or eighth which had that those Broadway 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: lights and the life and the you know, And so 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: I think that that's definitely a big thing that I 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: note a lot like the experience, the access, the opportunity 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: came from the access to seeing different possibilities. And so 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, we can't we can't box people 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: out of the learning of the education, the of the access. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: Another thing Hell's Kitchen has done is we created a 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: fellowship program to bring the young people who normally wouldn't 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: be in the space of set design or costume design. 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: And all of these pieces are. 108 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: The director fellow, the choreography fellow from Camille Brown, Michael 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: grif who's one of the best directors you know ever 110 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: in the Broadway space, so people get to learn under 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 4: the greats Chris Diaz, the book writer. 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