WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Direct from Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>The Indiana Pacers get a shot at the in season

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<v Speaker 1>tournament title against Lebron James and the Lakers. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the two teams that made it to the

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<v Speaker 1>IST title game. We're gonna talk about the two teams

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<v Speaker 1>that lost in the semifinals. What is going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the Milwaukee Bucks, and what is going on with Zion

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson and the New Orleans Pelicans. Should the IST champion

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<v Speaker 1>hoist up banner? We get into all of that next

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<v Speaker 1>here on the latest edition of This League Uncut. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to this League Uncut in the world of twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hour NBA News. This's you love, Chris Hans. Let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>time works time, It's so time. This League Uncut is

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<v Speaker 1>underway in on fire. This should be a good one. Hei, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in to the latest edition of This League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a jealousy tinged edition of This League Uncut because

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<v Speaker 1>we are taping this on Friday evening. It's still afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>time in the desert where Chris Haynes is. Yes, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Haynes is at the nd season Tournament. He got to

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<v Speaker 1>see both games Thursday, saw him all over NBA TV.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday he'll be there Saturday when the Pacers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers play for the first Ist crown. I am

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<v Speaker 1>jealous because I am not there. I hate missing out

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<v Speaker 1>on Vegas, but due to a number of reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to bore you with. Despite our best

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to reunite in Vegas, like we did in July

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<v Speaker 1>when we did a live edition of this podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers coach Darvin Ham at a very well known sports

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<v Speaker 1>book on the Strip, we couldn't quite make that happen

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<v Speaker 1>this time. It's my fault. That's my those are that's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be my department. I couldn't get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Haynes is there amid all the glitz and glamour,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just fifteen hundred miles away. No, not fifteen hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a thousand plus miles away and very envious, very envious.

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<v Speaker 2>But so you felt the need style style, You felt

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<v Speaker 2>the need to correct yourself right there. You went from

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred miles away to a thousand As if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>would have called you out on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like to I have to be accurate at

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<v Speaker 1>all times. I mean, it's Dallas to Vegas. Is not

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred miles Dallas to Dallas to Cali or Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>to New York, is you know, in the fifteen hundred ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's more like it's a thousand plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think it would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But striving for accuracy. How is how is the strip

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<v Speaker 1>treating you? Rub it in? Tell me what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>How's it been so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? This is? You said it that the Vegas is

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<v Speaker 2>the desert, and I don't know what desert is. Fifty

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<v Speaker 2>degrees it's cold, stein you know, I've never been to

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas and it's been this cold. This is the first

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been on the strip. I haven't walked. The

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<v Speaker 2>only time I've walked. I've walked a few times back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth to the arena. I'm staying at the Aria

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<v Speaker 2>and the hotel is like a block away. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>a seven minute walk if that. So, I've been doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But stiin this cold man.

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<v Speaker 1>Cold Vegas is wonderful? How could what you like it better?

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<v Speaker 1>When it's one hundred and ten? I mean, what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Throw on a fancy TNT jacket and you're good.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't bring a jacket. I didn't bring. I have

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<v Speaker 2>one sweater. I have a hood hooded sweater, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go with all my outfits, so I can't be

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<v Speaker 2>wearing it all the time. But no, Star, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is the desert, right, So in December,

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<v Speaker 2>I expect it to be seventy five plus give me

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five to eighty eighty five. That sounds about right cold.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, cold Vegas. Like I said, cold Vegas sounds

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling it. And in the arena stein t

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<v Speaker 2>Mobile Arena, it is super cold in that arena, super cold.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they got that ice under there for hockey. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>So god, I hate freezing. I hate freezing. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Vegas. I'm enjoying getting to see my comrades

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<v Speaker 2>out here. Miss you out here. Stein.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, it sounds like a big media contingent is

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I wouldn't say. No, I wouldn't I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't call it big. It's not that, it's not that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that many. You know, I would probably say

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably the same amount of foreign media here than

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<v Speaker 2>American media. I'll say it's probably more forim media than

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<v Speaker 2>American media. There's not there's not a large contingency here, Stean, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad info apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it doesn't from from my eye, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from the naked eye, doesn't look that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, before we get into the Pacers and the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we're going to talk about the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pelicans too, before we get into all that,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me your impressions of being in the building

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Again, we're taping this Friday, almost seven pm

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>It was last night, you know, the Bucks, especially that

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks Pacers game five pm Eastern tip off, two pm

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<v Speaker 1>local tip off. And I can't imagine that a slew

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<v Speaker 1>of Bucks and or Pacers fans made their way from

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<v Speaker 1>the Midwest all the way to Vegas on short notice.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw Damian Lillard said something like neutral was

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<v Speaker 1>a good word because it had a neutral atmosphere in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what was the noise like.

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<v Speaker 2>Noise? The PA announcer was making a lot of noise.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably made the most noise. You know during that

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers Bucks game, there was a lot of seats available.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that you could have grabbed the seat last

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<v Speaker 2>minute and probably had you a really good seat, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of seats available for that two o'clock local time

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<v Speaker 2>start between the Pacers and Bucks. The wasn't really an atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't really a Pacers fan contingent or Bucks fans contingent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously there were some of those fans there,

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<v Speaker 2>but nah, it was pretty Yeah, it was. It was neutral,

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't have much of an atmosphere. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good game, though, so I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it didn't have any real impact on the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, the players are playing art because everybody's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get that money, so you know, the product didn't suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was my concern starting a having a two

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock game start at start on a SAT on a Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my my, my baby, excuse me, stein

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<v Speaker 2>my baby. She is facetiming me right now. Jada cannot

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<v Speaker 2>call you back, baby. Your hair looks nice. I love

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<v Speaker 2>your baby. Hear my daughter's Styn She said, hy Mark

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<v Speaker 2>sty always said bye my bad okay, bye bye baby,

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<v Speaker 2>love you. That's my third youngest daughter right there. She

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<v Speaker 2>is thirteen. She just got a new hair. Deuces. She

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<v Speaker 2>facetimed me right now avid podlistener, Yes, big blistener subscribes

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<v Speaker 2>and everything to this league uncut but no, yes, Stein,

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<v Speaker 2>so she would show me her hair, her new hair, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>But Stein, Yeah, it was like it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really an atmosphere now, the six o'clock game,

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<v Speaker 2>the six thirty game or whatever. It was, Lakers Pelicans,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely Lakers fans all in the building much more. The

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<v Speaker 2>arena was much more packed, much more of an atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>an environment. I would have liked to have seen a

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<v Speaker 2>more competitive game, but yeah, it was night and day

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the atmosphere and the environment from the

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<v Speaker 2>two o'clock game to the six o'clock game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we knew that was gonna happen. Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, well known as a Laker town, so we

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<v Speaker 1>knew there were gonna be no issues in the night game.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, the league, honestly to me, has gotten everything

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<v Speaker 1>it could have hoped for with this championship game matchup

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night because the Pacers and you know, you've had

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<v Speaker 1>to hear these lectures for me about how the league

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to make this. You know, the league has

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<v Speaker 1>used soccer tournaments abroad as the guide for this, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are so few soccer elements to it, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that has bothered me from the start. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the Indiana Pacers have made a classic Soccer Cup run,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what the NBA would have hoped, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're beating Boston in the quarterfinals at home. They're beating

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee in the semifinals in Vegas. If it's a seven

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<v Speaker 1>game series, the Pacers are obviously not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>favored against either one of those teams. And you'd struggle

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine a scenario where the Pacers won a seven

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<v Speaker 1>game series against the Celtics or the Bucks. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be a knockout competition, a cup competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama said, knock you out, and that's what the Pacers

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<v Speaker 1>have done. They're six and oh in these knockout you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they went four and oh in the group. They won

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<v Speaker 1>their two knockout games. They beat two of the Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Conference powers in Milwaukee and Boston. And that is what's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to happen in a cup. Those are the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of magical things where a team gets hot and catches

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<v Speaker 1>fire and goes farther than it normally might have because

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<v Speaker 1>they've only got to win. You know, anybody can beat

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in one game. And then on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of it, it's the Lakers, and of course this is

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA's dream, this is what Adam Silver wanted. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes with the assist of a very disputed ending

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<v Speaker 1>in the quarterfinals against Phoenix, when a call was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>missed and the Lakers got a timeout they shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously the Lakers left no doubt with the way

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<v Speaker 1>they destroyed New Orleans in the Semis, and Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>is on the final stage, and you know, for the

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<v Speaker 1>league office, that is huge beyond words, because again you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Cinderella Pacers on one side, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron to attract the national TV audience and legitimize this

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<v Speaker 1>thing because he clearly wants to win it. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that means something to him. So honestly, to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA couldn't have drawn it up better had they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>Although again, there will be cynics out there who will

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<v Speaker 1>point to the way that Lakers Suns game ended and

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<v Speaker 1>say that, you know, the league, the league did have

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<v Speaker 1>a role here. Although look, I'm I'm by no means

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that there was league intervention. It was a bad call.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't have happened. It was a missed call. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a mistake, but it did help the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers on this path. And again, full credit to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers for taking advantage of that and blowing New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>out in the semis Stein, I'm slow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm slow, and I probably shouldn't be acknowledging this or

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<v Speaker 2>saying this, but I'm gonna say it because this is

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<v Speaker 2>this league uncut Starn, I'm slow. I'm listening to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're saying, this is exactly what the NBA wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what single game elimination knockout scenario. When you

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<v Speaker 2>said that, Stime, I've came to the rezation. I understood now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they played that ll COOJ song. Mama said

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<v Speaker 2>knock you out, the knockout round. That's why I never

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<v Speaker 2>knew exactly why.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you remember my big rant when we got

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<v Speaker 1>the news that the league had convinced LL COOLJ to

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<v Speaker 1>do a freshened up version of Mama said knock you out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was a great idea. But what

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<v Speaker 1>bothered me so much was that was the anthem that

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<v Speaker 1>is the NBA's official anthem for the nd season tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>But because there are sixty group games only seven games

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<v Speaker 1>in this tournament, can you actually get knocked out? That

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<v Speaker 1>was my issue. The song is awesome, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've always you've seen this week when they're when

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<v Speaker 1>they're when when there is a knockout, We've seen great

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen great stuff. You know, the indie crowd was

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<v Speaker 1>great when the Pacers beat the Celtics, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, Pacers Bucks went went all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down to the wire. I mean that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we want. That's that's the the novelty and the newness here,

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<v Speaker 1>because nothing in the NBA is single elimination, nor you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously in the playoffs there shouldn't be single elimination. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being a kid, and you know, in the first

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<v Speaker 1>round of the playoffs, they used to have the mini series,

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<v Speaker 1>which was two out of three, and that was considered

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<v Speaker 1>too short, and then we had three out of five

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round and they even did away with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are some people who do miss

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs when the first round was just best of five.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously now in the playoffs it's best of seven,

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<v Speaker 1>all four rounds. So if the playoffs are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>best of seven, all four rounds, let's make the end

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<v Speaker 1>season toment. Let's have even more single elimination games. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that I'm down for that. I'm not opposed to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just slow. So I had I had to admit

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm slow. It makes sense now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was a bold admission, because yeah, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been I've been harping on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it also just proves that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>you're not reading. You're not reading my substock as close.

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<v Speaker 2>I on the other, hold on, I got a question

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<v Speaker 2>for your style. First of all, I do read. Second

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<v Speaker 2>of all, I got let me ask you this. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you rather I read all your work or would you

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<v Speaker 2>rather I subscribe and pay for a subscription? You pick one?

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<v Speaker 1>Sty Oh, I'd much rather you pay for the subscribe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, all right, because I do pay.

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<v Speaker 1>But difference is Last night, when Chris Haynes posts a

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<v Speaker 1>story for Bleacher Report about some post game tensions in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks locker room, I click on it instantly and

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<v Speaker 1>read every single word of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I do the same as well. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time I do. They're reciprocated.

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<v Speaker 1>Most It's fine. All I want. All I want is

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<v Speaker 1>to sum it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>You got that check out, let's check it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about your Buck story. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make a huge deal of it

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<v Speaker 1>unless you tell me I should. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's worrisome. Now. Look, the Bucks, even after

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<v Speaker 1>losing the Semis to Indiana, they woke up on this

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<v Speaker 1>Friday at fifteen and seven. They've got the second best

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<v Speaker 1>record in the East. They've been, you know, very good

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<v Speaker 1>lately when Dame's been in the lineup. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it'd be overstatement to suggest that there's

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of crisis going on, but there has just

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, Adrian Griffin is basically a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>the way through his first season with the Bucks, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot. I mean, it's been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Stotts leaves the coaching staff before the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>even starts. You reported how various Bucks players went to

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian Griffin lobbied him to reinstate more of last season's

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<v Speaker 1>drop coverage schemes on defense, and the Bucks did that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the game against Boston recently where Jannis did

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<v Speaker 1>not look thrilled about being taken out of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was some back and forth between Giannis and

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<v Speaker 1>the rookie coach. And now this story that you reported

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and I should probably let you expound on

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<v Speaker 1>what you actually reported instead of assuming that everyone read

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<v Speaker 1>it as closely as me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you look at the game, look at how

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<v Speaker 2>it and it was it was a collapse on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive end. You really didn't see any structure, You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see any plays being called, and it definitely were not executed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went, you know, I'm waiting by the Bucks

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<v Speaker 2>locker room and I just I noticed it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's taking a little bit more time than usual to

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<v Speaker 2>get out, and you know, usually when that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, okay, something might be going on. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got word, you know, numerous people. I got word

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<v Speaker 2>that Adrian Griffin went in and you know, he started

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<v Speaker 2>harping on rebounding, on their lack of aggressiveness and losing

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<v Speaker 2>the rebounding battle, and you know, Bobby Portis I heard

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<v Speaker 2>interrupted and was like, nah, we got to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to have more structure on offense. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to have more sets called. You need to called more

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<v Speaker 2>sets to get us, you know, running the right offensive sets.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out there, not not doing anything, We're just going.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's one play that sticks out the

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<v Speaker 2>last two minutes of the game where where Giannis imbounds

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<v Speaker 2>the ball but he inbounds it to he inmbounded it

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<v Speaker 2>to Chris Middleton. Damian Little was coming over to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the ball up, but Chris Milton kept the ball to

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<v Speaker 2>bring up, bring it up the court, and emotion for

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<v Speaker 2>Dame to go opposite. So Dame goes. You could tell

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<v Speaker 2>Dame's a little bit confused. So Dame goes, and then Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>once he passes half court, he starts looking for Dame

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<v Speaker 2>and Bruce Brown is just hovering Damon and Chris throws

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<v Speaker 2>it and Bruce Brown picks it off and Dame stops

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<v Speaker 2>him from scoring. But nobody got back and Buddy Hill

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<v Speaker 2>was able to get the offense rebound and put it

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<v Speaker 2>back in. And so there was a couple of plays

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<v Speaker 2>just down the stretch where there was really no plays called.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just they just going freely. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand not you, Stein, but I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about people have to understand about the Bucks is that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in win now mode. You know, the stakes are high.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, Adrian Griffin is a rookie head coach. Yes

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be it's going to take time. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is the situation, this is it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's pressure, there's a miss pressure. Players feel it. And

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<v Speaker 2>their record is good Stein for fifteen and six you said,

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<v Speaker 2>or fifteen and seven. Really they have a good record,

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<v Speaker 2>but they haven't been winning games by large margins. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these games have gone you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been going down the stretch and they they're closing based

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<v Speaker 2>off of their talent. Dame has heroic plays, or Giannis

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<v Speaker 2>has hero plays or Chris Middleton lately, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>continue to struggle in the first half. They start games

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<v Speaker 2>off slow. They're always like finding their way back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>climbing out of large deficits. Like so they haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>playing good, you know, so that the standings can be misleading.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think what it was, you know, but it

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<v Speaker 2>look and so in my report as well. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bobby Porter's harped on that and then Adrian

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<v Speaker 2>Griffin I was told, was like, you know, I can

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<v Speaker 2>take that criticism. I'll accept it. I'll embrace that. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Griffin has been receptive to listening to his

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<v Speaker 2>players to hear what they have to say, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>changed some things because of it. But Bobby Porters, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to remember, he's one of the leaders of the team,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the vocal leaders of the team. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he he has huge respect in that locker room and

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<v Speaker 2>around the league. So if anybody is going to say something,

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<v Speaker 2>or if anybody sees something, you know, he's well within

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<v Speaker 2>his right to do so. And so you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>only did he Chinese Griff, but he challenge the players

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to execute. So but yeah, uh, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to get too big off of it. I wouldn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't jump over a cliff if I'm a Bucks fan.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think what it points to is

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<v Speaker 2>just the urgency that players feel about having, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get this season right and trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>the most of it even though they're only in December.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's something we're gonna have to keep

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<v Speaker 1>our eye on because it's just again there have been,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there have just been a slew of these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stories, headlines, however you want to term it,

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<v Speaker 1>since mid October, and it's a lot for a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>coach to have to deal with. Again, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Bucks are on that list of teams that

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<v Speaker 1>they are judged by championship or bust if the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>don't win a championship this season. Obviously, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all remember Yannis at the podium last year taking issue

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<v Speaker 1>with that kind of championship or bus talk. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is the reality. That is the way that the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be analyzed by the outside world, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you make a trade for someone as good and

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<v Speaker 1>as accomplished as Dame Lillard. So I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of the early stories of the season

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, how is Adrian Griffin as a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>coach adapting to this high pressure situation because there have

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<v Speaker 1>been last night's story from you was not the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's shift gears now and focus on the absolutely splashiest

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<v Speaker 1>Morning after headlines because Zion Williamson put under the microscope

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<v Speaker 1>like never before after New Orleans got absolutely trounced by

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers in Thursday Night semi final, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this worked out for the Pelicans in precisely completely opposite

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<v Speaker 1>fashion to what they were hoping. Of course, Zion Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>has never played in a playoff game in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't even played in a play in game the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the foremost stage he has ever been

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<v Speaker 1>on since leaving Duke and coming to the NBA. And

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<v Speaker 1>this game was, you know, the Pelicans against the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>the two teams who were at the heart of the

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis trade. And you know, this was probably the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the most the most the game with the

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<v Speaker 1>most stakes between these teams since the Anthony Davis trade.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, New Orleans had so impressively gone to

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<v Speaker 1>Sacramento and won in Sacramento to book their spot among

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<v Speaker 1>the four teams in Vegas. And then Zion Williamson just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely punchless in this game. Lebron James guarded him, sagged

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<v Speaker 1>off him, nothing went right for Zion, and after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>just an absolute torrent of criticism sent Zion's way. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a listen to some of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start with this was Charles Barkley on the

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<v Speaker 1>TNT postgame show talking about Zion and his own career

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<v Speaker 1>and repeating challenges that Barkley has issued to Zion in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. But both both Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neil

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<v Speaker 1>were really critical of Zion. And then we have another

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<v Speaker 1>clip from JJ Reddick right after that. JJ Reddick, of

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<v Speaker 1>course he's an ESPN analyst now, but JJ Reddick played

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<v Speaker 1>with Zion Williamson in New Orleans, so really interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>must listen stuff to me to hear Charles Barkley and

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Reddick analyze Zion Williamson in this manner.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that disturbs me is he's not a young kid.

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<v Speaker 3>When Moses told me I was fat and later I

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<v Speaker 3>was a rookie. He's been in the league long enough.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got two guys a team that a better player

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<v Speaker 3>to him, and they shouldn't be shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 2>He should be.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the number one pick in the draft. He

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<v Speaker 3>should be a better player to. We like ingram Ovis,

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<v Speaker 3>we love CJ. He should be the best player and

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<v Speaker 3>he's not even close number one. He's got to get

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<v Speaker 3>in shape. I've told you, I've been very disappointed he's

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<v Speaker 3>averaging six rebounds a game. He's only had two double

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<v Speaker 3>doubles all season. Man, if my grandmother was alive, she

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<v Speaker 3>used to call me up to every game OU didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get double faker rebound and just kill me. A big

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<v Speaker 3>guy that talented should never get less than ten rebounding.

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<v Speaker 3>He should be averaging eleven twelve rebounds games easily, but

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't run.

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<v Speaker 2>The floor at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I was disappointed, and overall I've been disappointed in Zion

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<v Speaker 4>this season. And look, we can certainly point to counting

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<v Speaker 4>stats and say he's having a fine season, but you

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<v Speaker 4>can be in the building, you can watch on TV,

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<v Speaker 4>you can be court side, and you can see he's

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<v Speaker 4>not in shape. He's still not in shape despite everything

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<v Speaker 4>that he's gone through, despite numerous conversations with legends of

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<v Speaker 4>the game about being in shape, he gets called out

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<v Speaker 4>on national television once or twice a year for this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>this very thing. And earlier this season he had a

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<v Speaker 4>press conference where he was talking about trying to buy

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<v Speaker 4>into what the team wanted. And the reality is Zion

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<v Speaker 4>Williamson has not bought into his own career yet and

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<v Speaker 4>that is disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>So this game that was supposed to be this huge

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for Zion Williamson to really on a significant stage

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<v Speaker 1>show us what he's got, and it just turns out disastrous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do wonder though, if this actually somehow becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing for the Pelicans because the organization's attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>urge Zion Williamson to get in better shape, to take

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<v Speaker 1>better care of his body, to address these things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Barkley has told the story so many times, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's such an important story in NBA history when Charles

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<v Speaker 1>talks about Moses Malone, legendary Moses Malone getting on a

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<v Speaker 1>very young Charles Barkley in Philadelphia and basically telling him

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<v Speaker 1>the way you take care of yourself is unacceptable. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to change to succeed in the NBA. The Pelicans

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<v Speaker 1>as as an organization, they've tried to convey this message

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to Zion Williamson in a variety of different ways over

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the past few seasons. It's never worked. And you know,

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>let's see now, let's see if such widespread, loud public

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>criticism has a different impact on Zion Williamson. Because I

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>have to think from his perspective, it's one thing to

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>hear it from guys like you or me. It's a

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>whole different thing to hear Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill, and

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a former teammate like JJ Reddick speaks so pointedly.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Stein, I was talking to my foot well FaceTime and

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>my youngest daughter, she's years old as we're FaceTime, and

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 2>I had my laptop on and I was listening to

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:13.959
<v Speaker 2>people criticizing Zion Wilson basically saying it has to get

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>in better shape, just all the things that you you

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>know what JJ alluded to, what Charles Barkley, Shack and

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>others have said. Right, So it was like this compilation

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I was I was listening to and my daughter heard it.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 2>And you know, Stein, we live in a different era.

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Things that we were able to say, the terms we

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 2>were able to use, the words we were able to

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>say back then was nothing. But you use those words,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>those same words, those same phrases now and it's something

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>really negative in today's world. So I'm saying this to

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>say this. So she's talking to me, but I'm not

0:28:55.960 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>really knowing. She's picking up on what they're saying about Zion,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and she said, Dad, are they fat? Sham and Zion

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I said, what said? How they gonna tell

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>him he needs to lose weight and get in better shape?

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's happy, you know how he is? Stop. So

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how to start. I didn't know how

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to explain. I didn't know how to explain this because

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I get in trouble. Could. I have a daughter who

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is just turned twenty, and she is like, she'll always

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>correct me on like the proper terms, what you can

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>use and cannot use, like according to this new generation.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And so I told my daughter, my youngest ones, we're

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about Zion. I was like, well, I said, baby, like,

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's just a level of I guess there's

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>a level of fit and being a professional athlete that

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to uphold, especially if you're like a player

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that's the face of a franchise. And she didn't get it.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>She was like, it still doesn't matter. She's like he

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>made it there like that, why is he being fat shame?

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't tell her it wasn't fat shaven. Well,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't say. I couldn't tell her. I just didn't

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>want to go down that role. I didn't want to

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>have an argument because you can't argue with the youngsters nowadays.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>So why did I bring that up? Stein? I just

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>brought it up because you brought up Zion and this.

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>But really stin my personal opinion, my personal critique is

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he has to get better. However way he needs to

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 2>get better, it's up to him. But he has to

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>be able to play thirty five plus minutes and be

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>able to do it consistently and be able to do

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>it and be able to do it and play to

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>his best. And in order to play to your best,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you have to be in good physical shape. Now I

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>will say this, good physical shape as far as your stamina.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he can still have that same physique, Maybe he

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>can still have that same body stature, Maybe he can

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>still be the same way. I don't know most people

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>that most people are saying he needs to lose weight.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go out there and say that. But

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>he needs to be able to play thirty five minutes

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and do it and dominate. And so however way he

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>needs to get to it, that's what needs to happen,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 2>or else there's gonna be more of this and staring

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>with this n season tournament. This gave him a platform,

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>just like it gave the Pacers a platform to see

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>how special this team is. The Pelicans had that same opportunity,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>but it worked in the opposite for them. And you know,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>it can item make you or break you. Right now,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I broke Zion, but he has a chance to pick

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>up the pieces and get it back together. But he's

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 2>going to have to do so because people are paying

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 2>attention now. And that's one thing I like about this

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>this season tournament.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I look, it's not comfortable to talk about, and he is.

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>His potential is so ridiculously high, and that's I think

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>what disappoints people. They want, you know, they they want

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to see him play to his maximum ability or something

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>close to it, because you know, we've seen peek Zion

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>can be a destructive force. But I mean he's not

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>rebounding either, you know, I mean it's he's he they need,

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they just need they need more from him to go somewhere.

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>They've got a lot of interesting, good players on that

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>team and and a lot of good, complimentary players, but

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you need your star twosome to function well.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know, this week, even in even in the quarters,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>when they beat Sacramento, you know, Zion had a very

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>quiet game. So you know, when it's when it's fellow

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>pros and you know, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neil, who have

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>been in that same position as Zion as face of

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the franchise, when they say it, I mean, there's no

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>way people are going to tune it out. It's going

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to be discussed and it's going to be talked about,

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we'll see what kind of response now

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>we get because I'm sure this in season tournament trip

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas was not a memorable and pleasant one for

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Zion and the Pelicans.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and it speaks, it speaks volumes coming from

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Shaq and Chuck because those guys know that they had

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to get in better shape to be able to play

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>their best, and so they're speaking from experience and somebody

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that's probably that's gone through what Zion is going through

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>right now. So I still I like, again, you know,

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Chuck and sometimes Shack, but Chuck a lot of times

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>gets a bad rap for being too hard on players.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I really do think that it's been constructive criticism as

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 2>far you know, they're speaking from a place of experience

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>of going through what Zion is going through now, so

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>hopefully Zion takes he and A and he's able to

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>take his game to the next level. However way he

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>needs to do it.

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>All Right, before we go, let's get into something that

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a topic both you and I have been interested in.

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually saw you on NBA TV today asking DiAngelo

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Russell about this because there is the question, and we

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>don't have clarity yet, what how will the team that

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>wins the nd season tournament celebrate. On one hand, you've

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>got the Pacers. They've won three ABA championships, but they've

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>never won an NBA title. They went to the NBA

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Finals one famously in two thousand. They played the Shaq

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and Kobe Lakers lost that finals in six They you know,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>have won a division here and there. You know, they

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>won the conference in two thousand. Obviously they were Eastern

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Conference champions. If you make the NBA finals, but the

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Pacers don't have a building full of banners. The feeling,

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is that if the Pacers win this thing

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday night, they will hang a banner. And it

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>is it is not definitive. I actually spoke to Rick

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Carlisle today and asked him that very question. And he

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>said that for me to ask him such a thing

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>right before the championship game, he said, Stein, that is

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a karmically flawed question. I'm not going to answer it,

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know, he left me with the strong

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>impression that, yes, if the Pacers can win this thing,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make a big deal about it. Then on

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the flip side, you've got the Lakers. The Lakers do

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>not hang banners when they win conference championships. They do

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>not hang banners when they win the Pacific Division. They

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>only hang banners when they win it all. They've got

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>seventeen titles tied with Boston. And I discovered that we've

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>both reported separately. We didn't realize that we were doing this,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>but I think both you and I have reported that.

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>The official word we're getting is the Lakers have made

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>no determination yet one way or the other what they're

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>going to do. But I think the expectation is that

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>an end season tournament championship is not enough for them,

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>because even Lebron you saw him postgame with your colleague

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Ali LaForce, and Lebron played so great against the Pelicans.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was the best player on the court

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>at almost thirty nine. But he told Ali he's not

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>going to get too out of control happy because it's

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>only December. So that's my long winded way of saying,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you think happens if the Pacers win it

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>all or the Lakers win the.

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Highest Pacers are putting up a banner for sure, you

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>know what I think. This is my feeling, and this

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>is I have no sourcing on it whatsoever. I haven't

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>spoken to anybody on it, aside from getting the message

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 2>from the Lakers that they haven't made a decision. But

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>this is what I think. I think a team like

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the Lakers or Celtics might feel obligated to do so

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>at some point because I think this is going to

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>be something that gets bigger, right, I think this is

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be something that's going to continue and it's

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be a big thing. It has yet to

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>register to me at stein because you know, I'm not

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>into the the soccer culture and I don't understand you know,

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the different cups and tournaments, you know what I mean.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>But if this becomes ingrained, you know, this is this

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>is this tournament is going to speak to the younger

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>generation coming up who are going to come up watching this.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>If this really is, becomes not equal but pretty close

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>behind winning a Larry O'Brian Trophy. I can see the

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Lakers saying, you know what, this is gonna be here

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to stay, even though we don't feel the significance of

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>it now. We might want to throw something up there,

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>or maybe they can wait stein the Lakers. That's what

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I would do. If I'm the Lakers or the Celtics

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and I win the first or the second nd season tournament,

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make a banner, but I'm gonna just hold it,

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>put in the closet, leave it the storage. Let's see

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>how big this thing is. Then about a tenth year.

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>If this thing is huge, go ahead and throw up

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 2>that batterer from eight nine years ago. Ahead, go ahead.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the other camp. Every team should hang a

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>banner for this. And the reason is, you know, the

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>league came up with this. Adam Silver has wanted this

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>for ages for really two main reasons.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Yo.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>There's the business reason, of course, the one that they

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>don't like to admit, but the one we all understand

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that if this thing goes well, and by all accounts,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>people don't grade it as hard as I have, so

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the reviews have been more positive than negative.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>The league would love to sell the inn season tournament

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>as a separate TV package to a media rights partner

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>down the road. That's what it's hoping to do on

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the business side. But on the competitive side, Adam Silver,

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and this is the part he does take from soccer.

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>He's always said, this is a league where there's one

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>winner and twenty nine losers because unless you win the

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Larry O'Brien Trophy, you're a failure. And the thing he

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>did really want to take from soccer is, let's create

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 1>a second trophy opportunity that teams are excited to chase.

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Because there are teams in the league that when they

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>win a division they hang a banner because they're not

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.919
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers and they're not the Celtics and they don't

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>have seventeen championship banners. So to certain franchises, winning the

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>division or winning the conference's that is banner worthy. And

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the you know, basically what I'm really looking forward to

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Saturday before the game, Adam Silver is going to have

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a press conference and I hope someone asked the question.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I hope someone asks, what is the league's stance on banners,

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>And even as I talk, as I say this out

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>loud and start thinking about it, Adam will probably say

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>something along the lines of we don't want to be

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>in position of telling our teams what to do. But

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>my gut instinct is the league office wants to see

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone whoever wins this thing hang a banner and treat

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it like a big deal. Because the league's goal here,

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you can't say they're there yet in

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>year one, but the league's goal here is that this

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>is the second most valuable prize a team can win.

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<v Speaker 1>The league wants this to be bigger than a division

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<v Speaker 1>title or even a conference title. That the league is

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to establish this as the number two prize for

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the NBA. So to me, if the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>won it and didn't hang a banner, that's a slap

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<v Speaker 1>in the face to the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Well remember look what you say, Stan, you said. The

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<v Speaker 2>league is hoping this becomes the second most significant award

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<v Speaker 2>during the regular season, hoping, hoping, hoping. What if it isn't,

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<v Speaker 2>what if it doesn't make it to sustainability, So then

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers are or the Pacers, they're just they're stuck

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<v Speaker 2>with an inn season tournament that doesn't in season tournament

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<v Speaker 2>banner that doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you know what it is. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see it going away now, Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think so either. I don't think so either. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like again, I think I've been as critical of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing as anyone. And and you know, all of my

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of my criticisms are based on group play

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<v Speaker 1>and counting these regular seas and games twice and the

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>fact that the nd season tournament is not separate enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm in the minority. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>has generated many more fans than foes in year one,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that Lebron has taking it so seriously

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<v Speaker 1>in year one has certainly helped it. So I I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just I'm kind of skipping steps here and

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<v Speaker 1>operating under the premise that I think. I think it's here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's here to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe so too. I still will tell the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers make the banner, believe it in storage. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's wait, let's wait to see what.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what's gonna happen. You're right, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you know someone is gonna ask Adam Silver

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably gonna say, we don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>teams what to do. And if the league does not

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<v Speaker 1>compel teams to hang a banner for this, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers won't. Maybe the Lakers will do exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>said and take a wait and see approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, take a wait and see approach. STEI. Before we

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, STEI, have you ever and Producer

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan feel free to chime in. We don't let producer

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Ryan chime in enough. He has a lot to say.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>He's putting out too many fires, airs, gaffs, controversies. The

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>man is busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Star. You know, it's what I experienced yesterday was the

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent to me of experiencing Is it called the solar

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 2>clips Is that what it's called? Where? Where? What the Earth?

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 2>How does what the Earth rotates around the sun? Moon

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>or sun? It blocks out the sun? Yeah, it blocks

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<v Speaker 2>off the Sun and it's like you only see at

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<v Speaker 2>that what time. I've never seen it before, but what

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<v Speaker 2>I experienced last night is the equivalent equivalent of that. So,

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<v Speaker 2>Producer Ryan and STEI, have you ever been in a

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<v Speaker 2>high riser hotel like I am right now? I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a high Riser hotel, are you and you justly hear

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>a loud thump at the window. You hear a loud thump, thump, thump, thump.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Have y'all heard that never?

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm gonna tell you so all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>every time I'm in high Risers, I hear a loud

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<v Speaker 2>thump at the window, bump, thump, like every now and then,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 2>like probably three or four times a day. So y'all

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>need to pay attention. So those thumps are birds hitting

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 2>the glass window because they don't see the glass window.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always, for years, I'm forty two, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>actually seen the bird hit the window. I finally saw

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 2>the bird hit the window and drop all the way

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>down to the road. I saw it finally, after all

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>those thumps I heard all these years, I finally just

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 2>happened to be looking out my window and I seen

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a bird going straight for the glass. It was like

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the glass like ten feet away from mop building. It

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>was just going straight. I'm like, what this bird doing?

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Where's this bird going? It kept going fast, it didn't

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>slow down and boom, and it just slid down the

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>rest of the glass window.

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Onto, and that was your solar eclipse.

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.919
<v Speaker 2>That was my solar I finally saw it after years

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>of hearing that. So y'all never heard a thump when

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you had a high where you had a high rise

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of hotel glass windows, You've never heard those thumps at

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the window?

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I had. I mean I just experienced similar

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>during a stay at JW. Marriott, LA live right across

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<v Speaker 1>the street from yes, the building formerly known as Staple Center.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did not deem it podcast worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't know that. I didn't know that

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that was the story that would that would be good

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>for the pod. And that's because you only heard it.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You didn't see it. You didn't see it.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta see it true too. I did not.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I did not see the bird.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I am looking at this bird and it is speeding

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and not slowing down.

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Could you could you identify what kind of bird it was?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was like a black crow, like sometime

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a black crow. It was a black bird, but it

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was speeding, it was not slowing down. I'm like, doesn't

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 2>this see this building? This glass And I'm like, hold on,

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>is this gonna be swat and just slid all the

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 2>way down.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Who knows, Maybe now we're gonna get some bird watching

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 1>traffic on this pod instead of just NBA listeners.

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're here for everybody. I just know that. I

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>just know there are people out there that hear those thumps.

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>And then there's some people like producer Ryme who didn't

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>actually know what that thump was. That's what the thump was.

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 2>It was birds that they think. They don't they don't

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>see the window. They think it's they think it's a

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 2>clear shot to get wherever they're trying to get until

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>they get where they're at.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Producer Producer Ryan doesn't get to go to any hotels

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because his full time job is keeping this pod glued

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>together and troubleshooting all of our messes. So he yeah,

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>we can't even remember the last time he was in

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a hotel.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he listens to us go splat, That's that's what

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then yeah, all right on that note, that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do it for this edition of This

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<v Speaker 1>League Uncut. The next time we are with you, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Haynes will be back from Vegas with certainly more stories.

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>A notebook full of stories from the NBA, and who

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>knows what else he'll see an experience on the strip.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming. I don't forget about that, but.

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>At least he won't be in Vegas any longer by

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the next time we speak, and so my jealousy factor

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>will have declined significantly. And yes, Tuesday Night Lakers at Dallas,

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris Haynes on the sidelines for TNT, wearing some fresh

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>new gear for sure for the national TV audience, and

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I will be in the building critiquing his every move.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be our first time in the same place since July,

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>almost basically five months since he and I were together.

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So definitely looking forward to that Lakers MAVs game and

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>what sort of mayhem ensues. And we're working on a

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>special guest next week as well. Don't want to jinx it,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think we're gonna have a very high profile

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>NBA newsmaker join us as well. So we got lots

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of good stuff on the way. Please remember, as always

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>rate review, subscribe to this League uncut via Spotify or

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Apple Pods or wherever you get your pods, and Chris

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and I will be back with you again, Harry Larry soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the ist final everyone, and that'll do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>See you next time. This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio

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