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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We are in the middle of a serious discussion about

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Speaker 2: Havana syndrome, the same directed energy attacks first reported at

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Speaker 2: the US embassy in Cuba, now being linked to civilian

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Speaker 2: experiences in the United States. Doctor John Hall and targeted

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Speaker 2: individual Ben Conine are with us, So let's continue.

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Speaker 3: Ben.

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Speaker 2: How how do you function? I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much you're able to divulge in terms of work

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Speaker 2: and so forth. Are you able to work? And how

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Speaker 2: is it that you are surviving this?

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Speaker 4: It's tough. I mean the V two K has has stopped,

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Speaker 4: you know, don't I don't hear any.

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Speaker 1: More of that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm now they're hitting me with kind

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Speaker 4: of physiological effects. I wake up in the morning with

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Speaker 4: like heart palpitations, extreme dizziness, like just feeling completely out

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Speaker 4: of it, you know, shaking uh. And you know I

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Speaker 4: went in I had an MRI done recently, which was

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Speaker 4: you know, I was looking forward to getting an MRI

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Speaker 4: done to you know, try to get some type of diagnosis.

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Speaker 4: But when I went in there to the ant I

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Speaker 4: described the tonight iss and like the because I get

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Speaker 4: extreme tonitis as well in my left ear especially, And

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Speaker 4: when he wrote down for the test, he said, you know,

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Speaker 4: left ear needs to be checked out. But then when

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Speaker 4: I got the MRI results, it was the MRI result

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Speaker 4: what he asked for had changed and it said, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, pain behind left eye instead of pain and

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Speaker 4: left ear when the NT was specifically worried that I

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Speaker 4: had a growth in my left ear. So you know,

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Speaker 4: those results aren't really accurate. But yeah, I'm suffering like

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Speaker 4: a lot of physiological problems now and uh and yeah,

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Speaker 4: just uh I feel I feel like horrific all the time.

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Speaker 4: I get hit with like extreme nausea dizzyness. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 4: about two weeks ago, out of nowhere, it was like

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Speaker 4: the entire world just started spinning out of nowhere and

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Speaker 4: I started throwing up uncontrollably.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: So I've been dealing with like a lot of that recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it's it's been extremely stressful, obviously.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Hall. Doctor Hall.

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Speaker 2: Ben was discussing or describing earlier about how he was

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they call it. In the US

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Speaker 2: and Canada they call it form They form wonned him

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Speaker 2: a form one and he was basically involuntarily committed to

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Speaker 2: a mental institution. How is it who's ever behind this?

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Speaker 2: And we'll get into that a little bit later, But

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Speaker 2: how is it that they are recruiting healthcare professionals police?

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Speaker 2: How is this being done?

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Speaker 5: You know, we live in a society where we've kind

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Speaker 5: of been spoon fed that if you're hearing voices or

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Speaker 5: anything like that, that you're automatically crazy, even though there's

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Speaker 5: several technologies that can put voices in your in your

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Speaker 5: head now now, sometimes in some small towns or some

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Speaker 5: areas there there are there is a private investigative group,

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Speaker 5: you know, that's usually an offshoot of FBI, Like the

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Speaker 5: group that I wrote about here is a former FBI

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Speaker 5: guy and his son who was a lieutenant colonel and

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Speaker 5: the d o D that ran a private investigative group

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Speaker 5: that specialized in this kind of harassment. And that is

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Speaker 5: kind of how it's mostly done. It's typically not a

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Speaker 5: government agency directly harassing you. It's a it's a PI

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Speaker 5: group that's owned by people that still have clearances to

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Speaker 5: access the technology and the technology. Believe it or not,

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Speaker 5: this is actually not government owned technology. It's private company

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Speaker 5: technology that's leased out to the government agencies. So that

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Speaker 5: being said, you know, those companies do have our pis,

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Speaker 5: do have people on the ground that they can kind

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Speaker 5: of end up trying to direct you to so they

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Speaker 5: get the diagnosis that they're hoping to get. And then

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Speaker 5: this is all in all, it's a continuation of MK

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Speaker 5: Ultra and early on all of these projects were were

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Speaker 5: directed by psychiatrists, so it's no surprise that it was

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Speaker 5: developed very intently to look like schizophrenia. But since schizophrenia

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Speaker 5: typically hits people at an early age, and most of

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Speaker 5: these victims, you know, kind of notice it or it

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Speaker 5: starts in their thirties or forties, so what they're getting

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Speaker 5: now is diagnosis is psychosis because it doesn't really you know,

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Speaker 5: fit the DSM criteria for schizophrenics. But but there's no.

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Speaker 2: What did we lose, doctor Hall? It is kind of fading.

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Speaker 2: You're kind of fading in and out. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if somebody's playing tricks on us, but you're kind of

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Speaker 3: Doctor Hall.

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Speaker 2: A little better now, Yeah, let me let me just

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Speaker 2: quickly ask Ben, you're you're not, as far as I know,

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Speaker 2: you're not former military, You're not you don't you know

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Speaker 2: he didn't work for a defense contractor like Raytheon or

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Speaker 2: someplace like that. Why do you suspect they're targeting you?

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Speaker 4: I think I think they're targeting my entire family. My

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Speaker 4: brother is a director at Raytheon And.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh okay, that was a wild stab in the

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Speaker 2: dark I took there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, and and yeah, like when I look

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Speaker 4: back now, I see lots of weird, weird stuff that happened.

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Speaker 4: I think I was kind of lined up for this.

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Speaker 4: And like doctor John Hall said, they seem to let

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Speaker 4: people know or you know, kind of start the overt

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Speaker 4: targeting when people are in their thirties and forties. But

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Speaker 4: I think that they they pick out people when they're

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Speaker 4: set things up and kind of control their family before

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Speaker 4: they start to actually do the overt targeting. Because one,

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Speaker 4: I hadn't talked to my family in a long time,

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Speaker 4: and when they started happening, I freaked out and went

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Speaker 4: back to them, and they all acted like robots and

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Speaker 4: wouldn't even though they trusted me and knew I was smart,

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't believe it work. I said when I was

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Speaker 4: talking about any of this in a really weird way.

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Speaker 4: So I think they line it up so that they

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Speaker 4: control people around you, you know, to keep you from

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Speaker 4: having any you know, credible backup you know when you

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Speaker 4: when you run into this type of targeting.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to presume that whoever they are behind your

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Speaker 2: particular targeting are fully aware that you're on coast to

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Speaker 2: coast tonight. I mean, do you feel as if they

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Speaker 2: are ramping up whatever effects tonight while you're on the

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Speaker 2: air with me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my arms came like my

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Speaker 4: shoulders they are killing me right now. And and yeah

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Speaker 4: I'm getting like shortness of breath and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do that.

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Speaker 2: Have a lot Doctor Hall, we used to talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, microwave weapons and so forth. You could basically,

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Speaker 2: you know, take the door off a microwave and hold

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Speaker 3: What is the technology involved?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Is this all being done by satellites?

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Speaker 5: And you can you do it with some handheld devices

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Speaker 5: as well, and you know, just so the listeners realize,

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Speaker 5: you know, with kind of my history of this, when

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Speaker 5: I was pretty much hailed as the pied piper of

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Speaker 5: much that, and then actually had a psychiatric disorder named

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Speaker 5: after me called the Hall effect or the haunted person syndrome,

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Speaker 5: that that these people weren't being experimented on, that they

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Speaker 5: that it was a form of psychosis. Will come full circle.

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Speaker 5: And now after Havana syndrome broke, then they kind of

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Speaker 5: to say that it was prometer and and it was

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Speaker 5: crickets and it was competing surveillance technology in the you know,

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Speaker 5: and admitted that they have high energy lasers and microwave

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Speaker 5: weapons now that are scalable, which means that you know,

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Speaker 5: can be used on a crowd of people or are

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Speaker 5: used on an individual. And you just saw them used

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Speaker 2: Yes, for they can be used for crowd control. What

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Speaker 2: do they call that active denial? This is non lethal

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Speaker 2: non lethal weapons.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were invented as non lethal. Now you know,

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Speaker 5: with the people that have been experimented on with them

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Speaker 5: for years at a time, they can be lethal because

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Speaker 5: all of these weapons are designed to disrupt the wave

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Speaker 5: The human body is essentially a bioelectric entity, and the

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Speaker 5: conduction through ion channels, and the microwave energy disrupts those channels.

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Speaker 3: Ben are you able to get any relief?

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Speaker 2: And if so, what do you do to sort of

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Speaker 4: I mean, everything that I've kind of tested out doesn't

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Speaker 4: really work. The only thing I've found that actually helps

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Speaker 4: this guy called onion Head Andrew. He suggested making an

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Speaker 4: EMP device out of a taser, and those are illegal

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Speaker 4: of an electric fly swatter, and that actually helps. If

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Speaker 4: I run the e MP device around my head and body,

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Speaker 4: I actually feel better, like immediately, And yeah, it definitely

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Speaker 4: literally like went and like tried to go like underground

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Speaker 4: swimming in the ocean stuff like that. But the EMP

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Speaker 4: for a short period of time and then you have

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Speaker 2: When we were doing the TV pilots Doctor Hall on

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Speaker 2: targeted individuals, I seem to recall someone talking about using

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Speaker 2: oscillating fans, having two oscillating fans running around were powered

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Speaker 2: on near your bed when you're asleep. That is that

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Speaker 2: still a possible remedy or is that sort of just

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Speaker 5: Kind of old technology, And that the thinking behind that

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Speaker 5: was that when you hear the term voice to skull

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Speaker 5: it to your brain. And that vibration can be a fan,

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Speaker 5: can be a vent fan, and an aquarium pump. I

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Speaker 5: mean anything that slightly moves air or cause a vibration

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Speaker 5: in your environment, you can well if you can disturb that,

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Speaker 5: you know, you can at least block what you're hearing

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Speaker 5: as far as the people talking to you. Now, the

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Speaker 5: other way we found to do that was through bone

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Speaker 5: conduction headphones and using binoial beats to try to successfully

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Speaker 5: you break you away from the actual targeting which causes

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Speaker 5: the voice to skull. And if you can break the targeting,

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Speaker 5: what we found is that the rest of the weapons

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Speaker 5: that are on the platform, the director energy weapons aren't

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Speaker 5: as easily used on you because you're not as easily

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Speaker 3: You try these binoral beats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I tried the binaural beats. I did not really

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Speaker 4: get any help from them, and and I really, uh,

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Speaker 4: in my research, I found that you know, you really

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Speaker 4: shouldn't use bluetooth because bluetooth opens up the blood brain

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Speaker 4: barrier and like, let's in like you know more.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I I'm I'm of.

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Speaker 4: nanotechnology involved, like graphenoxide nanostructures or or something similar to

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Speaker 4: that that that kind of like builds up in your

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Speaker 4: central nervous system and your bloodstream and and like amplifies

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Speaker 4: this signal. And you know that makes the most sense

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Speaker 4: to me. And when I tried the binaural beats, I

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Speaker 4: didn't feel any any different at all. I tried it

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