1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals and your one stop shop for 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: optimizing all your office technology. Visit Pacific Office dot Com. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Problem solved. J J. Watt in the backfield J J. Watt, 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Baby putter till the ten, till the five and end 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: of the ends up for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: presented by that Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot Com. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Problem solved, buck Don Tyler Murray. That defender is in 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who cover the teams. 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Break it on. Slammed the ground by foota baker like 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and nobody here's Paul CALVICI. Well, it was either bring 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: your dog to workday or it was well what did 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: it sound like again, Darren? Before we get into the particulars, 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: why would you do this? Swoosh? What was that sound 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: that you heard? You had the front row seat, hence 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: you were among those closest seat. The dog had the 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: front row seat. We were we were actually in the 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: row behind him. Did you not hear the panting that so, Danny, 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: the dog had a row all to itself. Where were 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: you seated right behind the dog next to Darren? There 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: you go, I was I was a crossed the right 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: behind the dog, sitting next to the dog. I only 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: saw it on social media. So was the dog well behaved? 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: I just saw a still show, yes, pose very well, 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and the pictures after the press conference, and it's a 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: big dog. Wait a minute, the dog was in the 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: pictures after the press conference. Of course, why else would 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: you bring the dog? Did they have the dog holding 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: up at jersey or a helmet? I mean, what really? Okay, 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: this is Kyler's dog or mom and Dad's dog. Kylo 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: was Okay, that's good, all right, it all ties in. 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: I get it now, all right. Here we go on 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground Special Contract Edition. Paul KELVC, Darren Erman, Danny 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Serek and then Danny add the one on one after 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: the press conference for the press conference. Before the press conference. Okay, man, 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: he's the first one to talk to him. Okay, so 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: now we're now we're getting all the particulars now we're rolling. 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: So what did we learn from the Danny Serek one 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: on one sit down exclusive interview? Danny Do tell, Well, 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: first of all, I got to promote it. If you 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: want to go see the whole interview and you want 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: to see the video of Kyler smiling his great suit, 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: go check out our YouTube channel. It's on our website. 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: He's a Cardinals dot com. Kyler I thought was really 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: great and I thought he was insightful. I asked him, 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, right off the top, he was so tight 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: lipped about this whole process and the few sound bites 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: we heard from him, he was crystal clear on wanting 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: to be an Arizona Cardinal, and so I asked him 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: why he never wavered from wanting to be a part 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: of this team, this organization, and he just said, you know, 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: not many teams would want to take a chance on 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a five ten quarterback, and this is the organization that 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: took a chance on him from the beginning and has 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: done what they need to do to put him in 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: a place to be successful, and he's grateful for that. 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: He credited the relationships he has with Cliff Kingsbury and 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: his teammates and how they've grown so much over the 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: last three years, and that's the expectation is to continue 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: to grow. I also asked him, you know, we seem 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: to have here from everyone in the media locally and nationally, 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: what kind of leader Kyler Murray is this offseason, but 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: we haven't heard from Kyler himself. So I asked him, 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: how would you like people to know the type of 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: leader you are? And he'd said that he describes himself 69 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: as the kind of person who, when he's in a 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: new situation, likes to observe and prove through his actions 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to just walking into room and telling other 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: grown men what to do. He wants to lead by example, 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: and he wants to earn their respect and earn their trust. 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: And so that's what he's been doing as he's been 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: maturing the last three years, so that he's been vocal 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's just maybe a different kind 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: of leader than we're used to seeing through other quarterbacks 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: throughout the league who are so vocal and so active 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: on social media and things of that nature. But I 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: thought he had a lot of really interesting things to say. 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: We talked about the excitement of having his college teammate 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: and his very good friend Hollywood Brown now on this roster. 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: And he also talked about the type of legacy that 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: he wants to start setting for himself as the second 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the league. Now, yeah, I like 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: that question about leadership. You're right, everyone's had an opinion 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: on leadership and some free advice along the way, Right, 88 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: But what does Kyler truly define as leadership? Because it 89 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: is as individual as a quarterback. Kurt Warner was totally 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: different from Carson Palmer versus other great quarterbacks that we've 91 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: seen along the way. And it was striking to Danny 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: to your first comment about Kyler Murray that he did 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: indeed say how gratefully was and honored that the Cardinals 94 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: would have selected him number one overall? Is that five 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: ten quarterback that in high school he wasn't even sure 96 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: he was a D one quarterback just because of his size. 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: And then if you remember January of twenty nineteen, before 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: the draft, there were plenty of draft experts who had 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: him a long way from going even in the first round, 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: much less first overall. I personally forgot about about all that, 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: but obviously it still resonates with him because it is 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: part of his legacy, no doubt. I remember talking to 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: him for a sit down interview we did after his 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: rookie season, and I remember him talking about that, and 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things that really 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: surprised me at the time because he hadn't brought it 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: up before, and I just took him as somebody who, 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody was thinking he wasn't going to 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: be there, that he would just kind of be like, 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. But there was 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: a part of him I look, don't get it twisted. 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray is always very much leaving himself. 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray always thought he should be a 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: first round pick. I think he has enough self awareness 115 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: though that he wasn't sure if it was other people 116 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: were going to think that. And you know, I when 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: I look at this contract, you know, he said something 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: right after he was done talking to Danny and we 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: were kind of waiting. We're still forty five minutes out 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: from the press conference, and you know, a couple of 121 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: us were congratulating him because it's the first time we've 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: seen him since all this happened, and He basically said, 123 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: I think, Danny, you're the one who brought up like 124 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: how you're feeling or whatever. And he's like, I'm really 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: being serious when I say nothing's really changed, And I 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: believe that with him. Let's face it, Kyler Murray's didn't 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: grow up dirt poor. This is more money than he's 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: ever had or his family's had, there's no question. But 129 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: it's not like they They're a middle class family, so 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: it's not like this money is going to drastically do 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: something like it might for some players. So for me, 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I do believe when he says not a lot has changed. 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I do believe this has to do with appreciation that 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals appreciate him. I believe it's we always joke 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: in sports about guys saying it's not about the money, 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: it's about the respect, And for the longest time, I 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: really struggle with that. But I do think there is 138 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: an element to the players where the money gets to 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: be the point where it's you don't even feel it 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: because it's so big, and it is about the respect. 141 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I do believe he sees this just as much about 142 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: the dollars in his bank account as much as it 143 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: is the team saying, yes, we think you're one of 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the best in the league, and this is how we 145 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: prove it. And this was his expectation. Yes, So it's 146 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily like he's a player who has been on 147 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the fringe and has been going from team to team 148 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and has been an underdog having to improve himself. Has 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: he how to prove himself? Of course he has earned this. 150 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to take that away from him. I 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: also think as we talk about, you know, people saying 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: what kind of Leady is, because I think they know 153 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: him and his personality traits. This was his expectation. And 154 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: you're right, Darren, I did. I asked Kyler, I said, 155 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: what did you do to celebrate? And he was like nothing, really, 156 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I flew out here for this, and you know, 157 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: you know that's kind of it. Like and I said, 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: are you are you doing at least a nice dinner 159 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: or something. He was like, yeah, we'll probably do like 160 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: a nice dinner, but like nothing to celebrate, no big purchase, 161 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: like just another day. He said to me. He's like, 162 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm just ready to get on the field. Well, let's 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: face it, it's not like he wasn't already a multimillionaires. Right, 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, like I'm agreeing with you. 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I know you are. I'm guessing the old line. We'll 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: get the most out of the first old line dinner 167 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: with the quarterback though. The Christmas gifts. Yeah, Oh, make 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: the most out of that, There's no doubt about that. Yeah, 169 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: you might get some special for Ronnie Hudson too. Yes. 170 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Indeed there were players in the back of the room 171 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: who were in attendance, right, Not just Colt McCoy who 172 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: stood up and asked a question where there other players? 173 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: All the quarterbacks were there and Cam Turner the quarterbacks 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: called coaches, your coaching staff. It was. It was pretty 175 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: filled in the back. Trey McBride was in there too, 176 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: Trey mcbrine, Okay, there you go. And then of course 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: she was on stage with a GM Steve Khin and 178 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: would that being the case? I thought to myself, you 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: know what, this is much less of a risk now 180 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: than it was in twenty nineteen. Drafting Kyler Murray at 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: five ten with one college season under his belt, albeit 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: a spectacular Heisman winning season, was a much greater risk 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: I think then going in two hundred million plus into 184 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray with three seasons under his belt and two 185 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. Agree or disagree? Spoken like somebody who's not 186 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: paying the two hundred something. Sure, I mean that's just default, 187 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: that's understood. I know what you're saying, But I don't 188 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: know that's a that's a lot of money. Even if 189 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: you think he's your guy, that's still a lot of money. 190 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Whereas opposed to you draft a guy, I mean, you 191 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: did it with Josh Rosen. You draft a guy, doesn't 192 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: work out, you move on and yeah. So but look, 193 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I agree in terms of the risk part of it. 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: I think the fact that they have the proof on 195 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: the field already, Yes, I believe that it was a 196 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: bigger risk in twenty nineteen. I would agree with you, Paulin. 197 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: And if you tell anybody that I'm gonna deny it, 198 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: you've got to imagine Steve Kim is very relieved or 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: proud of the fact of drafting Kyler Murray. First overall, 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: because this is the first quarterback the Cardinals have drafted 201 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: that they have given a contract extension too. Since I 202 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: don't mean to aid you Jake Plummer in which year 203 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: December of ninety eight. So the fact that it's paid off. 204 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: The great news the Cardinals. Let's let's make this very 205 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: clear too. The Cardinals spent exactly two draft picks higher 206 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: than the fourth round on quarterbacks between Jake Plummer and 207 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. One was Josh Rosen, so we know where 208 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: happened there, and Matt Leiner. So it's not like they 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: were getting a whole bunch of high draft picks that 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: were washing out. But and I sent Dan Danny. Danny 211 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: saw that fact and she's like, is this true? And 212 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, And then I gave her the list 213 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks they drafted between Jake Plumber and 214 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and it's I love me some Ryan Linley. 215 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Ryan's a great guy. John Skelton's a great guy. Chris Gryson, Well, 216 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Logan Thomas. I'm sure at some point in Jake Plumber's 217 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: press conference, and I'm trying to remember, back didn't you 218 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: get a fifteen million dollar bonus? That was the big takeaway? Right? 219 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: That was big money back then. There's no doubt fifteen 220 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: million dollar bonus. And I'm sure at some point Jake said, well, 221 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this is just the start, which is 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: exactly what Kyler Murray said, quote, I feel like this 223 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: is just the start. But agree or disagree, you believe 224 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: that I do, don't you fully at me? Is the 225 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: room for improvement, absolutely, and I was very much encouraged 226 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: to hear him say that he's watched the playoff loss 227 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: multiple times. He's trying to learn from that. And he's 228 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: far from the only quarterback to flop in their playoff debut, 229 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Most recently, you came back the next year 230 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: and won an MVP paid manning back and the day 231 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: had a horrendous playoff debut. But I like the fact 232 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: that you know what, Okay, he recognizes that a lot 233 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: of guys it was so bad, might just dismiss it 234 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: one of those I'm throwing the game film and the 235 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: trash can. No, he went back and tried to learn 236 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: from it. And so when he said is I feel 237 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: like this is just a start. He's yet to put 238 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: together a complete season. Obviously, you know the rookie season, Okay, 239 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: had the ups and downs throughout, But the end of 240 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: the last two seasons, obviously we're underwhelming. So at some point, Danny, 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: what's your confidence level that what he did over the 242 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: first half of last season when he was a legitimate 243 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: MVP candidate, he can sustain over the entirety of seventeen games. 244 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a question physically. I think we 245 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: know that the answer was something mentally going on with 246 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the collapse of this team last season. And I thought 247 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: it was interesting in this press conference that Kyler said 248 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: it was as his first playoff experience and as the 249 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: team right like with this coaching staff, it might be 250 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: beneficial for them that that was their playoff experience because 251 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: now they know the pain, and now they know what 252 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: it takes. And so the fact that he is clearly 253 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: looking back at that and seeing what can they learn 254 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: from it? But it doesn't necessarily seem like it's festering 255 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and it's on their mind in the sense that it's 256 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: they're still dwelling on it. Now it's turned, you know, 257 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: it's turned in their mind up. Okay, how can we 258 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: use this and learn from it and use it as 259 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: a motivation so that next time we're in that situation 260 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: it's a different outcome. And I also think too was interesting. 261 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you just before you get going, well, 262 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I really liked when I was 263 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: talking to Kyler, him saying that it wouldn't be a failure, 264 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: but his job would not be complete if he does 265 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: not bring at least one super Bowl to this organization. 266 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I've had a lot of 267 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: personal accolades and records broken already in the NFL, which 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: is true. And he said, that's great, but that's not 269 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: what I care about, you know, Like for me, if 270 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to break a record, I want to be 271 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the first to bring that Lombardi Trophy here. It reminds 272 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: me this national radio interview I did the other day 273 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: in the host goes he upfronts me up, I don't know, 274 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: always tough guy on the air, Paul Kelvy. See what's 275 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: your confidence level? Kyler Murray will deliver a super Bowl 276 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: to Arizona? WHOA Okay, all right, back off better, you know, 277 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: But no, I mean it's not solely on the quarterback. Obviously, 278 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been omni Pro Bowls or Super Bowls. 279 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry one hasn't he been to one? He's won 280 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: one super Bowl, So I mean you can be, you know, 281 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer for twenty years. And 282 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: that's San Marino far from guaranteed, absolutely, but at this 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: point and the trajectory, you know, again getting back to 284 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: that playoff loss, you're not going to be able to 285 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: correct any problem unless you identify the problem. And he 286 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: mentioned attention to detail. So just add that to the 287 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: growing list of different players. Whether it's Buddha we got comfortable, 288 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: whether it's aj Green and there was a lack of 289 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: overall team leadership, you know, whether guys got a little complacent. 290 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: So okay, that makes me feel a lot better about 291 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: this season that they recognized what went wrong the end 292 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: of last season, because I think to some degree, you know, 293 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: they weren't exactly sure what happened in two twenty to 294 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: end that year when they lost five of the last seven. 295 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: They thought maybe it was leadership, maybe toughness. Right, that's 296 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: what two all seasons ago was all about. Let's try 297 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: and bolster those two categories. Well, guess what I mean. 298 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: It worked to a certain degree. You got off to 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a ten and two start, okay, but then something plagued 300 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: this team down the stretch. Now, I firmly believe that 301 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: hard knocks, for example, is one small item is a 302 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: football decision. I think that's part of trying to add 303 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: an extra layer of accountability. But at least now everyone's 304 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: on high alert come December. That that's the true challenge 305 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, I don't I don't disagree with 306 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: any of those things. And you know, look, so much 307 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: of this stuff is it's going to be about Kyler, 308 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be about Kyler. You know. 309 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: One of the fascinating parts to me about seeing a 310 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: couple of the reports on how the contract is laid 311 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: out his salary cap number. I was a little surprised. 312 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: I thought it might go down a little bit. It 313 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: went up a little bit, not by much. It was 314 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: like eleven and a half and now it's like twelve 315 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: and a half for this year, so it very doesn't 316 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: really impact anything. And then next year it's only sixteen million, 317 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: which is a very low number for a starting quarterback. 318 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Of course, in three years it jumps to fifty plus 319 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: wow on the salary cap. But the salary cap is 320 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: supposed to jump tremendously in twenty twenty four, So yeah, 321 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: that sinks up. With a new media money that's going 322 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: to rock at the cap, right, I mean when you 323 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: look at that, then it's about okay, who can we 324 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: get in here on the roster to help him, because 325 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much he's getting paid. If he 326 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: doesn't everybody to the throw too or protect him, it's 327 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: not really going to make a difference. What about the 328 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: guaranteed money that initially was ported at one hundred and 329 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: sixty million guarantee, which is his guarantee for injury for injury, 330 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: so which all that means is if he has a 331 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: catastrophic injury in his career and he can't play football 332 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: anymore legit, then he gets he would get all that money. 333 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: But that doesn't that's not if you toy a ligament 334 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: or I mean again it's good then you don't believe 335 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: in Jinxes Darren. But the full guarantee what they term 336 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: and define as the full guarantee is reportedly one oh five. Yes, 337 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: then that's about what it is, be honest with you. Then, 338 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean considering to show on Watson and what the 339 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Browns did to blow up the salary structure and how 340 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that first NFL Owners meeting thirty one other 341 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: owners looked at Jimmy Aslum and said, what are you doing? Okay, 342 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: So honestly, that combined with a fact in two years 343 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: and the new media money and the way they structured 344 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: it within the cap I think everyone's going to look 345 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: around and say, you know what, that was pretty well 346 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: bought by the Arizona Cardinal, especially with Lamar Jackson coming, 347 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow coming, and Justin Herbert coming well. And the 348 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: reality of the Browns thing is it was a different thing. 349 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: That was a you had multiple teams trying to get 350 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns don't get Deshaun Watson unless they 351 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: give him that it was more of an open market 352 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: bidding process, and it was an open market bidding process 353 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: that the Browns felt. They panicked and that's what they 354 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: did because they weren't going to get him. He was 355 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: going to go to Atlanta and Baker Mayfield was scorched 356 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: dirt at that exactly whereas Kyler Murray, Look, he got 357 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: a lot of what he wanted. But this was a 358 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: fair deal in a lot of ways because the Cardinals 359 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: did have a lot of leverage. Kyler Murray was under 360 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: contract for two more years and then you could franchise 361 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: him for two more I mean, he wouldn't have been happy, 362 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: and he might have tried to uh, he might have 363 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: tried to hold out here and there, but the bottom 364 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: line was he wasn't in a position where he could 365 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: just sit out and it was going to really work 366 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: for either one. So I think it makes sense to, 367 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, compromise there the Hollywood Brown. What do you 368 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: say about Hollywood Brown? By the way, did he you 369 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: asked him about that? Danny, And I mean, I'll be 370 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: honest with you. The more I think about it, and 371 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: the more we witnessed in the offseason, the more we 372 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: heard from GM Steve Kime a little bit on the 373 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: radio side after the press conference, that is truly going 374 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: to be plug and play. I expect immediate returns that 375 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: In that pairing, Kyler is clearly very excited. He was 376 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: he kind of joking like some people might think, you know, 377 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: you have too many weapons to pass the ball around, 378 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: but he's not concerned about that problem. He it wasn't 379 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: even just Hollywood. He went into all of his offensive weapons, 380 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Tray McBride, Rondale Moore, aj Green, all all 381 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: of these receivers. Deandrew Hopkins obviously when he comes back 382 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: from his suspension and just saying that he feels like 383 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: this offense is different than last year, and even if 384 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: that's not personal, he feels like it's different. It feels 385 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: like they're going to take that jump this year. He 386 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: was very, very excited and had a big smile though 387 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: when talking about his college teammate and his very good friend, 388 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Marky's Hollywood Brown. I still think, and I don't know, you, guys, 389 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: I'm not sure this is necessary, but I think it 390 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: helps that his best friend is now on the team 391 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: or one of his best friends as a bridge to 392 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the locker room. I really do. I 393 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: really think that that'll help bolster and grow relationships and 394 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: leadership within that locker room, because if Kyler is a 395 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: little bit different and at times has been termed an introvert, 396 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: and so I think it just it can't hurt. I 397 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: guess it might lead to him really fulfilling that role 398 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: that Patrick Peterson put on him in the middle of 399 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: his rookie year, right when he called him a CEO. 400 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: Wasn't that the old thing, right? But how do you 401 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: do that as a rookie when you're sharing a locker 402 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: room with Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson, and Chandler Jones. It 403 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: did strike me that when somebody asked him about the 404 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: pressure he Kyler at his press conference, Kyler kind of 405 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: started talking about, okay, you know, when you're a quarterback, 406 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, and then he noted two things about being quarterback, 407 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: the leadership part and then taking pressure part. Those are 408 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: the first two things he thinks about. It's not whether 409 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to throw for three hundred yards. 410 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: It's not the contract. It's it's being able to be 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the leader. And then you know, dealing with the pressure 412 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: that comes with being a quarterback. And so the leadership stuff, 413 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still going to be out there. And 414 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: I hope you're right, and I hope the Hollywood Brown 415 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: thing helps, but I think Hollywood Brown is going to 416 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: help more because he's a good player and you got 417 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: your other top wide receiver is going to be suspended. 418 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, his answer was, it's the pressure 419 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: I've always wanted, which I thought was a good answer, right, 420 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: which I don't. I completely think that's genuine. I think 421 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: it is. I think he does embrace that. And Danny, 422 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, coming from Dallas, that the pressure of being 423 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old quarterback and leading a team to 424 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: a big school state title in the Cowboys home stadium. 425 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone's equipped for it, it's Kyler Murray. Absolutely. 426 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: He has the pedigree of winning. It's in his blood, 427 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: going back to high school, to college to winning the Heisman. 428 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is this is his expectation. And that's why 429 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I've I've said all offseason that if there's anybody who's 430 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: going to take that last performance of last season, the 431 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: playoff game against the Rams, and use it as a motivation, 432 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray. I don't know if there's anyone more 433 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: competitive than him in that locker room and it come 434 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: off arguably the worst game of his career, somebody who 435 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: lives and breathes this game and wants to win more 436 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: than anything. I think that's only going to benefit him 437 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: and benefit this team this year. Well, maybe the hardest 438 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: sitting question came at the very end when Colt McCoy 439 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: asked a view was going to be at the quarterback 440 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: meeting the next day, So, which reminds me walkthrough? He 441 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: did say, well, all the walkthrough, okay, which he paused. 442 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: He said yes, but he pau there was a long 443 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: pause there. Well, maybe he was wondering if it was 444 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: mandating his contract because reports and sources out there say 445 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: that over nine million dollars is tied to his workout bonuses. Yes, workout, 446 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: offseason workout. It's nine point three million according to Pro 447 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Football Talk, which I think is very very interesting for 448 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: a team that would like to have him around for 449 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: the chemistry as they build in the off season. Yeah, 450 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: and I think there's it's twofold one. Yes, you're the 451 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: quarterback and it's Kyle Van Embosch has set former cardinal look. 452 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: That's part of your job description now, especially more than 453 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: ever you're paid like a leader. But number two, you've 454 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: pointed this out, Darren. We've seen this trend ever since COVID. 455 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: More players are staying away in the off season. And 456 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: it's one thing if a linebacker isn't there for all 457 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: your OTAs, But it's entirely a different thing when your 458 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback isn't there and you can't build on that 459 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: chemistry and some of the other things. So I get it, 460 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: all right, anything else we missed, Danny, I wasn't an 461 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: attendance or in the room, and mom and dad were beaming. 462 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: I take it they were smiling the whole time. I 463 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: bet yes they were. Of course, a question about ball 464 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: was asked because it was going around that it's Kyler 465 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Murray's you know, average annual pay is more than the 466 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the athletics total payroll. So somebody, you know, kind of 467 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it was really joking, but asked, you know, 468 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: so the contract mean, there's there's no baseball, and Steve 469 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: Kim and Kyler Murray are both kind of silent, and 470 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Steve Kine made that joke of you saw how much 471 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: like we paid him, you saw how much Oakland could 472 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: have paid him, and Kyler said, I am right where 473 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I want to be. Well, Kyler didn't say I'm not 474 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: going to play baseball. You didn't say that. And so 475 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: it's about forty six million a year in this extension 476 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: and the a's entire payroll is just over forty eighty years. 477 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: So if you're wondering about the numbers, yeah, And speaking 478 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: of Steve Kime, we had him on the radio side 479 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: afterwards real quick. I asked him any kid time signs 480 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: or you know, in the near future, and he said 481 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: there might be a couple sometime soon. So he did 482 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: say that, and then what else I threw down a 483 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: couple other notes if you're wondering. Steve kim I said, 484 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: all right, what key questions would you like answered either 485 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: by the end into camp. Sometime in camp he said, well, 486 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I am curious about depth at cornerback and then our 487 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: young players on defense and I said position battle right guard. 488 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: I said, will Hernandez justin Murray and he threw in 489 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Josh Jones. He said, that's a three headed battle. That's 490 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: according to Steve Kime Soon And my final thought is, 491 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't you know Kyler I presume doesn't even need 492 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: the contract because if he's part of Phase Clan, Phase 493 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: Clan had their IPO, their stock offering earlier this week. Oh, 494 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just beer money. This is beer 495 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: money at this point for Kyler and his new two 496 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty point five million dollars deal. If he's 497 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: in on the stock options with Phase Clan. I just 498 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: want to know how much swoshes were. So life is good. Yeah, 499 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: everybody should be the dog for Kyler Murray and the 500 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: Kyler household. That'll do it for this edition, Special contract Edition, 501 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: Franchise record edition of Cardinals Underground brought to you by 502 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation