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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live in New

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Speaker 1: York City. It's Friday, February fourth. My name is Jane Slater. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm still so much. We've got Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt,

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Speaker 1: and Pro Football Hall of Famer Chris Carter. The breakfast

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Speaker 1: table does look a little different since the last time

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Speaker 1: I was here. Guys, I like it. Yeah. Yes, we're

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Speaker 1: nine days away from the Super Bow the chip. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Time for the lead block block. All right, we are

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Speaker 1: just nine days away from Super Bowl super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: six at SOFI Stadium. These guys are aunt. Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football will be in Los Angeles all next week as

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Speaker 1: we ramp up for this epic showdown between the Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals. Let's hear what Borrow and Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: had to say yesterday as they get ready for Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl week. I've always played well in these kind of moments,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's just because all of these moments

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Speaker 1: like I get better as the year progresses, just because

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Speaker 1: you have more reps, more film under your belt, corrected

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Speaker 1: all the mistakes that you've made throughout the entire year,

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Speaker 1: and I'm good at recalling that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: so when you get to the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: you just have all those reps banked and you just

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Speaker 1: keep getting better and better. You got a job. You

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Speaker 1: got a job to go out there and execute and

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Speaker 1: try and lead your team to help us win. Once

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Speaker 1: Esey used to just eliminate all distractions and go out

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Speaker 1: and play all right. Between the players, the coaches, the cities,

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Speaker 1: the fan bases. There are so many angles to tackle, guys.

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Speaker 1: Before we even get to Sunday. It's so far. But

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Speaker 1: in your eyes, what's the main story a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty six? Peter will start with you, Jane. We've got

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Speaker 1: now seven billion sports podcasts. We all have sports podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and all of our family members all have Patty has

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Speaker 1: a great one, and Patty's got one's fantastic. We also

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Speaker 1: now have wonks and quants and the gambling sites, and

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Speaker 1: they all now jumped into the sports media fray. This year,

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Speaker 1: we've also had fantasy football take on this burgeoning success,

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Speaker 1: where now there are fantasy football experts. There are literally

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Speaker 1: fifty billion people who talk about sports for a living now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know one of them who had the

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Speaker 1: Bengals going to the super Bowl one of them. Let's

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Speaker 1: start off with our fine show. We think we're bold,

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Speaker 1: we think we're daring. Let's see who we took. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: you said the Bills, We're going to go to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. They didn't. Who else is on our show?

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Speaker 1: Kay said? The Browns and the Packers. Packers out in

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Speaker 1: Divisional round, Browns didn't make the playoffs. Mike rob He's

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Speaker 1: got the Chiefs and the Ray Well half right, half right?

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Speaker 1: What I say? Oh? I said? Also Chiefs and Rams

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Speaker 1: half right? No Bengals. Okay, but let's go beyond our show.

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Speaker 1: What about Game Day Morning? The Big Brothers to our show?

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Speaker 1: Who do they have? Week one? Okay? I like it?

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers Chiefs a rematch Rich wrong, Mooch Niners bold. They

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Speaker 1: went from worse to wrong. Buccaneer's Chiefs wrong, Cowboys Come

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Speaker 1: did this? We let them redo it again? Wild card

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Speaker 1: right like right, guys, Oh they did it again? Get

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Speaker 1: that redraft No wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

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Speaker 1: wrong wrong wrong. So I put a tweet out there

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Speaker 1: earlier this week Chris I said, if there is anyone

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Speaker 1: sports media or otherwise who picked the Bengals to make

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Speaker 1: a sports book receipt, that could be a screen grab anything.

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Speaker 1: Tumbleweed can can come and buy my feed's cricket. No

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Speaker 1: one at all had the Bengals in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and in my time doing this, that is the first

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Speaker 1: time I could ever say that they are the biggest

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Speaker 1: long shot I could remember in Super Bowl history, coming

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Speaker 1: from they've had six wins the past two seasons. They

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. There is no greater storyline than a team

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Speaker 1: that says, you know what, screw the past, screw the experts,

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Speaker 1: Ravens and Steelers, and the Browns were a very hot pick.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him go to the Bengals to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: There's the lead singer of Rascal Flats, maybe the guitars guy,

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Speaker 1: Jay DeMarcus, Big active Bengals. He's big and out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Gary Owen, the comedian, big Bengals fan, George Cooney, big

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Speaker 1: love that you brought that up Kyle, because that was

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Speaker 1: a highway, Peter, and I want to ride the Bengals

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Speaker 1: They're absolutely terrible or maybe even worse that like Saturday

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Speaker 1: It's mathematically the biggest turnaround ever in NFL history, the

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different recipes of how you're gonna

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Speaker 1: And to me, when I'm in LA at Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: And Joe Burrows, he's a charm life born and raising.

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Speaker 1: Then the first pick in building something special. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: And I think Joe Burrow, to your point, this guy,

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Speaker 1: him through thick and thin. I can't wait for this one.

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Speaker 1: And to think there was so much knocking of the

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Speaker 1: going to be Doug Peterson, the Super Bowl winning head

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Speaker 1: work with general manager Trent Balkin. We will see if

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking a lot about the Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: saying that the New York Giants meeting with him in

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Speaker 1: So I would have one thing right there, Chris Carterbone,

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Speaker 1: we're going back to Jacksonville. We'll get on the PJ

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Speaker 1: Friday morning and then go back up to Ohio, which

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Speaker 1: we're both from. So for them, I don't think next

431
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Speaker 1: year that we'll be sitting here charting like you beautifully did.

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Speaker 1: This is the road to build in a champion. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there'll be on it. So for me, I

434
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Speaker 1: got huge problems. I left the league twenty years ago.

435
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Speaker 1: There were three black coaches. What happened? Are we going backwards?

436
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Speaker 1: That's just my question to the general public, are we

437
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Speaker 1: going backwards? And I think my response to that is

438
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Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question, right, But I also

439
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: think we can't negate the qualifications of Doug Peterson either

440
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Speaker 1: or the fact that they did their due diligence, the

441
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Speaker 1: fact that they took a month and they didn't how

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Speaker 1: do we know extensive what is Jacksonville downe from a

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Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, hiring standpoint, that we know they did it

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Speaker 1: the right way. Well, I think they clearly failed with

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. So I think that's why there was people

446
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: picking the groceries. I think that that's why there wasn't

447
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: a rush to judgment. But I just also think we

448
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Speaker 1: can't take away from the fact that Doug Peterson had

449
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Speaker 1: a very challenging year. They went to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: lost their starting quarterback in Carson Wentz and literally had

451
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Speaker 1: the Philly Special, and it was it was a huge game,

452
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Speaker 1: and that was competitive. And I think sometimes, and this

453
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Speaker 1: goes for white and black coaches women, sometimes in the league,

454
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Speaker 1: there's a narrative that is created about them on their exit,

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Speaker 1: whether it be from a media organization, whether it be

456
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Speaker 1: from a team, or whether it be from a coaching staff,

457
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Speaker 1: and so, well, you're talking about the narrative of Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 1: To your point, we don't know the whole story about

459
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Speaker 1: how that day bulged with Howe and going down the lines.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying that you don't have a

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Speaker 1: valid point, right, I'm gonna say one more thing and

462
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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna let it go. We got Doug Peterson,

463
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Speaker 1: was a backup quarterback in the NFL, was around a

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Speaker 1: lot of good people, was with Andy Reid. Eric b

465
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Speaker 1: Enemy has been with him too. Look at the numbers

466
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Speaker 1: he's calling the plays there. So before we start trying

467
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Speaker 1: to put our flag on certain chips, these are the

468
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Speaker 1: things that have happened to African American coaches as far.

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Speaker 1: Especially if they get one try, they don't get a

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Speaker 1: second try, a second absolutely a second byte at the album.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at what's going on Joseph as

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Speaker 1: a great argument for that. I mean, we sit here,

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Speaker 1: we sit here today and we got one African American

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Speaker 1: head coach, and I can't do TV right unless I

475
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Speaker 1: speak about that, and that right there. It hurts me

476
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Speaker 1: because I've seen what this league can do for African

477
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Speaker 1: Americans on the field. I brag about it all the time.

478
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Speaker 1: I've never had a real job before in my life.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me I can only be my best

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Speaker 1: on the field if I decided to go to the

481
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Speaker 1: front office, if I decide to gold coach. But if

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Speaker 1: I go to the combine, if I break my net,

483
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Speaker 1: if I work hard, if I lift them wakes, Oh,

484
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Speaker 1: I can do anything on the field. That's my dilemma.

485
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Speaker 1: And that's the way I see it through my lens.

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Speaker 1: Just been watching this for a minute, and it's fair,

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Speaker 1: And I think you want the league to be representative

488
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Speaker 1: of the people that it serves as well, right, And

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Speaker 1: so I want you to know I'm not taking away

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Speaker 1: from your argument. I also say we just we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: take away from either the qualifications of the person who

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Speaker 1: got the job. Either, start your clock. Super Bowl fifty

493
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Speaker 1: six just around the corner, and good Morning Football will

494
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Speaker 1: be out in LA all next week. The Bengals are

495
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Speaker 1: the home team, taking all the rams at their home

496
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Speaker 1: stadium in so far, so, how Cincinnati going to treat

497
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Speaker 1: this like a regular week when it's anything but that's

498
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: our best best bet, you know, is to get everybody

499
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Speaker 1: to focus in on how important winning this game is

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Speaker 1: and avoid the distractions that come with it, because it's

501
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Speaker 1: easy to fall into that trap. But being a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion you carry that for a lifetime. Enjoying the

503
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Speaker 1: super Bowl process is a ten day enjoyment factor, you know,

504
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Speaker 1: and so we want something much longer than that. You know,

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Speaker 1: coming into this week game prep it, you know, it

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Speaker 1: just feels like another week. Obviously it's the super Bowl

507
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to and try to eliminate as

508
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Speaker 1: many distractions as we can. But feels normal. All right.

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Speaker 1: This is a really cool stat Did you know that

510
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Speaker 1: the Bengals have just one player on their entire roster

511
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Speaker 1: who has played in a Super Bowl? The Rams, by comparison,

512
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Speaker 1: ten guys. So there's a bit of a gap to

513
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Speaker 1: deal with here. But will it help Cincinnati? And so

514
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Speaker 1: we wondered could the lack of super Bowl experience actually

515
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Speaker 1: be an advantage in Super Bowl fifty six for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Chris will start with you, let me think about this

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Speaker 1: for it. No, absolutely, Nat. I'll take back to the

518
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Speaker 1: Rams last time they went through the Super Bowl. Now

519
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about someone must have kidnapped and clone Sean McGray.

520
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: Someone had to be calling the play no motion, no

521
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Speaker 1: speed sweeps, not attacking New England the way I thought

522
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Speaker 1: they would, so boring, so overwhelmed. Now I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: the RAMS because afterwards he admitted, you know something I

524
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Speaker 1: would go. I would do it a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: So from one of the brightest coaches that we have

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Speaker 1: in the game, who was in the biggest game a

527
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I remember the sound bites

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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl against New England. It's not gonna matter.

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Speaker 1: Oh experience is overrated. That's like when we talk to players.

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Speaker 1: A player who's really slow, you know what he says, Oh,

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Speaker 1: speeds overrated. You know what a guy who's height challenge

532
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Speaker 1: what he says, Oh, heights overrated. Experience is never overrated.

533
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Speaker 1: Especially when you talk about the Super Bowl. They say

534
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Speaker 1: money doesn't matter, signed rich people. Looks don't matter, signed

535
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Speaker 1: beautiful people. I understand you're subscribing to the theory that

536
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Speaker 1: Sean McVay was actually abducted and clone. Yes, John mcvayh

537
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Speaker 1: coached the Rim. Interesting the experienced thing. Listen, I liked

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Speaker 1: the full screen a lot. Early in the show, we

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Speaker 1: played a clip of Sean McVay saying that how difficult

540
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Speaker 1: it is and kind of joking about it to lose

541
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Speaker 1: all these coaches constantly because I've had so much success.

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Speaker 1: Well during that very boring, very very no show, almost

543
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Speaker 1: offensively Super Bowl, the quarterback coach is now the head

544
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Speaker 1: coach of the Cecnatti Bengals, who had a front row

545
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Speaker 1: seat for what it looks like when your offense shows

546
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Speaker 1: a flat that's Zach Taylor on the Super Bowl. We

547
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: remember it as being tedious, they got nothing going, Jared

548
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: Goff through a bad pick late. They're standing there watching, like, so,

549
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Speaker 1: this is what it looks like. He was also a

550
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Speaker 1: passenger on the whole express and things you talked about earlier, Chris,

551
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Speaker 1: about family and tickets and we want the suite versus

552
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Speaker 1: we want the seats and why where's my hotel? He

553
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Speaker 1: knows that stuff. So I would rather have a head

554
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Speaker 1: coach who has been to one than six players who

555
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Speaker 1: have been to one. I'd like me that that is

556
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Speaker 1: more value pound for pound. There's this narrative that the

557
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Bengals have no idea what they're walking into. I trust

558
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Speaker 1: their head coach. I trust them standing right there next

559
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Speaker 1: to McVeigh on that Super Bowl it ill faded super

560
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Speaker 1: Bowl to know how to get the guys ready, to

561
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: get how to get them practically ready because he's been there,

562
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Speaker 1: and I think there's lessons to be learned. Strikes I know.

563
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Speaker 1: And it's not like these players haven't played in big games.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are college superstars in Jane,

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to hit on that. I would

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Speaker 1: low look at organizationally. Chrissy hit on it yesterday. The Bengals,

567
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: they haven't been here. It's been thirty three years since

568
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: they've been in the Super Bowls with different super Bowl

569
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Speaker 1: then that was in nineteen eighty nine when they played

570
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Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl. It is a real, real learning

571
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: experience as an organization. Yes, to get everybody out to

572
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Speaker 1: the host site, to accommodate the families, to understand that

573
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Speaker 1: on game day they're going to be ridiculous requests made

574
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Speaker 1: that someone whose job should be focused on football is

575
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Speaker 1: dealing with something else because on Super Bowl it wasn't

576
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Speaker 1: accounted for two weeks earlier. I can't even put a

577
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: point on it, but I just know. Let's take McVeigh

578
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Speaker 1: for example, he feels a lot more at ease right now,

579
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Speaker 1: not because of the foot ball. But because I've been there,

580
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: I've done that. Guys in the Rams organization from president

581
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: on down, they have said that there were some things

582
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: in Atlanta we probably would do a little differently if

583
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: we could do it again. Guess what they get to

584
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: do it again. Bengals not known to be one of

585
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: these Super Bowl contenders. They have not done the advanced

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Speaker 1: work of going on an AFC Championship week to go

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Speaker 1: see the site city. There might be a lot at

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Speaker 1: that organization coming at one point players. That's gonna be

589
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: an other things. I just think the whole entire top

590
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: down to experience being there before helps you as opposed

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Speaker 1: to never being there. I had a point of that.

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Speaker 1: I did something yesterday NPR with the Rams and I

593
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: did an interview with one of the Rams was going

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Speaker 1: to the players and we'll run it during a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday. The PR people and everyone facilitating the interview

596
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Speaker 1: kept talking about a few years ago, this, a few

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00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: years ago. This when we did this a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: we get it. And there was also a sense that

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00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals maybe are playing a little catch up this week.

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00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: So that's even a week out, the Rams are already

601
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Speaker 1: looking back to lessons they've learned, and this is just

602
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: getting their guys in chairs for interview. And this might

603
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: not be what any football fan wants to hear about.

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00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: They want to hear about Joe Burrow, and but it

605
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: matters that the Brown family and Duke Tobin and he's

606
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: got haven't sniffed the Super Bowl ever since eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: I think it does play a role, and I think

608
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: it trickles down and it's everything from the fans to everyone.

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Speaker 1: We've never done this before, Rams fans, Rams team, they've

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Speaker 1: done it. I also go back to I actually think

611
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Speaker 1: it will give the Angles an advantage. In other words, emotionally,

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Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys have ever had a hiccup in your careers.

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: For me, it was when I was doing sidelines for ESPN.

615
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I never felt like I was great at it, and

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Speaker 1: we had a consultant come in once. And then when

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Speaker 1: I got a two game package for CBS Sports, I

618
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: let some of that scar tissue affect my performance coming

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Speaker 1: into the next assignment. Okay, And so when I look

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Speaker 1: at this team, there might be those RAMS players that

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Speaker 1: think of the hiccups from the super Bowl, and it sorts,

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Speaker 1: it gets in your mental psyche. But I'm also looking

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Speaker 1: at this team and looking guys like Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Sec football is different. It feels like the

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00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl when you play some of these games, when

626
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Speaker 1: you win a national champ in a ship in college,

627
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Speaker 1: it feels like a super Bowl. And there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: those guys that play in the league. But I feel

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Speaker 1: like these guys, especially against Kansas City Chiefs on the road,

630
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: in that stadium and that atmosphere, coming from behind the

631
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Speaker 1: way that they did, they feel like they deserve the Lombardi.

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Speaker 1: So I don't I don't look at this team as

633
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Speaker 1: being the underdogs that we've talked about this season. They've

634
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Speaker 1: proven time and time again they're the real deal. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like when you haven't been there, you're adrenaline's

636
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Speaker 1: pumping and it's just gravy for you at that point,

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Speaker 1: Whereas some of these guys, the Andrew Whitworse, this might

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Speaker 1: be the last show, the Eric Weddles, this might be

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Speaker 1: the last goes. Sometimes the anxiety of the pressure to perform,

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Speaker 1: you're never going to be here again, that can affect

641
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: you on game day two, jan I bet you were

642
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: great on the sideline. Come one, terrible, guys, stop absolutely terrible.

643
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Now that's Friday, which means we get to welcome my

644
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: good friend Nathaniel, your gene Burt. Listen from the set

645
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: of CBS Morning. What's up, Mattie, what's up, Boddie? What's Upboddy?

646
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Man? I'll see you bit shopping

647
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: at the Baby Gap again. Good to see KB. As always.

648
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: Let's try to keep this on the rails, Nate. The

649
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl coming up, which means we actually have to

650
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: start with the important stuff. During our Whiteboard Wednesday segment

651
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: this week, I told the story of the time I

652
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: met Bo Jackson about twenty years ago, and I was

653
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: so nervous that I walked on like, oh my god,

654
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: this is both hi, I'm Bo, and I introduced myself

655
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: as Bo and never corrected it. It was terrible. Bo

656
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: actually replied on Instagram and said, Kyle, You'll always be

657
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Bo to me. Yes, that really happened. It's a really

658
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: cool thing. Bo's just the best. Bow replied, But Nate,

659
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: take it away from me for a second. You are

660
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: on celebrities all the time. What is the most awkward

661
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: interaction you have ever had with a famous person. All right, first,

662
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: let me let me throw it right back to you

663
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: real quick, because I love you. I remember us. We

664
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: have the same interest, right, we're the same age. But

665
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: I remember us being in la and we're meeting all

666
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: of the guys that I've worked with, and we're all

667
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: big fans of these guys. Come on, you know what

668
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: it is? So we see Dion Sanders. You remember what

669
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: you said to Dion when you first saw man. He said,

670
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: uh so, Prime not what's up? Okay? And I was like, Kyle,

671
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: but listen, I'll take it. I'll take it back to me. Um, Kyle.

672
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I remember being in Miami with my boys. We're hanging out, right,

673
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: We're chilling at this hotel. We're sitting at the bar

674
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: and it's basically the in between space between where you

675
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: walk in the hotel and where you get to the pool.

676
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: So as we're relaxing, just talking about the day, what

677
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: are we gonna do a little later on, you kind

678
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: of smelled the cigar smoke filling up this space. You're like,

679
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: who has the audacity to smoke indoors when you can't

680
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: smoke indoors? And then I turn around and we see

681
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. And at this time, I'm playing in the league.

682
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: So all of my boys, all of my boys, they're

683
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: sitting there like a yo, Nate, Like you've seen Mike before,

684
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: You've been at events with him, You're a professional football player.

685
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Go talk to him. You guys are in the same space.

686
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: You know how it is with friends. I will tell

687
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you my boys, my family. If they see the most

688
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: famous person in the world, they think I know that person,

689
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: or I can walk up to them. So now I

690
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: got to play it off. They're nudging me. I'm like,

691
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: all right, get off of me. I got this. Like

692
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: they're telling me, go say hi to a girl at

693
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: the bar. So I walk over. I'm like, I'm gonna say,

694
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: what's up to Mike. I'm gonna just say, mj your ireness.

695
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna make something up. So I'll

696
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: go over there confidently. Right before I can open my mouth,

697
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I freeze. I'm talking about completely lost my words, didn't

698
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: know what was going on, or rigor mortis. I stiffened up,

699
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: and he just walks by, hits me with the head

700
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: and I fills the air with smoke and then heads

701
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: to the pool. I walked back defeated. My Boy's like,

702
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: what was that man? And I was like, it's Michael Jordan. Okay.

703
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was the one and the only time

704
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: I ever froze when I'm want to go save what's

705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: up to a celebrity? So, Mike, if you're watching, hit

706
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: me up on DM and say that we're friends, like

707
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson and Colbrand boy hawkword one was with Nate Burlson.

708
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: I've got a list of them. But Nate, do you

709
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: remember Super Bowl Minnesota when we ran into Christopher Reid

710
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: and I was trying to get him to do the

711
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: funky Charleston with me. We didn't get it on video,

712
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: and I asked him do it to do it again

713
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: and he said nope, he shut that down. He's like, nah,

714
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: we're good. He checked out. Pay me to do that, okay, Nate.

715
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: I picked Walker Hayes blaring music over the five of

716
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: you guys on Sunday as my Hall of Frame nominee

717
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: this week. I appreciated what Burrow did in McPherson and

718
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, but Walker Hayes absolutely drowning you out was

719
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: my favorite moment of the week. Instead of talking about

720
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: the need to establish the run at halftime show though

721
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I love that you're my guy, and you didn't even

722
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: you just started dancing. You were like, all right, they

723
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: can't hear us. I'm gonna dance. Have you heard from

724
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Walker Hayes? Have you heard from his fans? And are

725
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: you now the biggest star in country music? Since responding

726
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to Walker Hayes and not trying to tell us about

727
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: what the running game needs to establish in the second half. Instead,

728
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: I love me a good old country song, especially when

729
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: with the rhythm that sounds like rap. And yes, I

730
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: have heard from Walker Hayes. He gave me a shout

731
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: out on Twitter and then he also hit me with

732
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: the DMA. He was like, yo, you understood this assignment.

733
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: The speaker's right behind us. We can't fight the fact

734
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: that people can't hear us and we can and hear

735
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: each other. So I was like, you know what, instead

736
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: of me screaming into Boom's ear, I'm going to dance.

737
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: When music is too loud, you can either go complain

738
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: to the DJ, or you can dance like nobody's watching, baby,

739
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I did. A lot of people

740
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: were watching millions. Yeah, two parts here. We talked to

741
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: you on Monday. We know you have a relationship with

742
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Have you talked to him yet? That's the

743
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: first part of it. And nine days to the Super Bowl,

744
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: give me what are the keys to Matthew Stafford leading

745
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: the Rams and Super Bowl fifty six and getting that

746
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy. Bro It was funny. I was supposed to

747
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: sit down with Matthew Stafford and do an interview last night,

748
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: but because of my son's basketball schedule and then also

749
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: him being on the West Coast and practicing, we couldn't

750
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: lock it up. So we're gonna reach out and try

751
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: to link with the fam. My wife knows his wife,

752
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: and of course me and Stafford go way back. I'll

753
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: be in LA next week, so hopefully we can cross

754
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: this pass. And I've been talking to him all year,

755
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: so that's my dog. But it's far as the game,

756
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: you know. I believe that he's gonna have to get

757
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: on the same page with Sean McVeigh even more so

758
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: than he's been this season. And what I mean by

759
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: that is there will be new wrinkles in the Super Bowl.

760
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: It's Sean McVeigh so he's gonna look at the season,

761
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: the defense of the Cincinnati Bengals and try to figure

762
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: out where their weaknesses lie, maybe even remix some plays

763
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: that have worked against them, and then create completely new

764
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: plays from scratch this week. And the reason I say

765
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: get on the same page is because those new plays,

766
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: those new wrinkles, are gonna have to work seamlessly like

767
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: day one install. You know, sometimes you'll see a team

768
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: pull off a trick play and you're like, oh, that

769
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: was a little wonky, seems like they only worked on

770
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: that a few times. But other times you'll see a

771
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: play that they've never run before and you think to yourself,

772
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: that looks like they do it every single week and

773
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: they were just waiting for the right moment. So for me,

774
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be those wrinkles, those

775
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: trick plays that we will see. I'll even say this,

776
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: I believe there's going to be two or three trick

777
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: plays within the first two quarters for the Rams, And

778
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the same thing could go for Zach Taylor because we know,

779
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, their buddies save the tape guys. It'll be

780
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: fun if he's right, all right, There's always a lot

781
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: of excitement about the Pro Bowl Skills showdown, which you

782
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: can catch against? I don't get eight pm. Here on

783
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: NFL Network. We see competitions in everything from precisions, passing

784
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: the dodgeball. But if you could add one one NTE

785
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: that you would dominate in right now, what would it be?

786
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Don't say basketball because I'm coming for I heard you

787
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: talking about me. I heard you talking about me. Yeah,

788
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: I'll called you out, Chris. You're saying you O were

789
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: talking about how you dominating the men's league. I ain't

790
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: worried about them dudes wearing them knee braces and elbow

791
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: passes you be playing against. Come see me, Come see me, Chris.

792
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: But now I'll jokes aside. You know what I feel like.

793
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: I feel like they should add kickball kickball to the

794
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. You remember kickball recess? I mean right there,

795
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: like a series of recess events. You know, ain't baby bounces,

796
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: baby bouncies and they just bounced that ball. Yeah, think

797
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: about kickball. It's a little bit of kickball, a little

798
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: bit of baseball, and you getting dodge ball. If somebody

799
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: is trotting along to first base and they don't have

800
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: this be I am aiming either for their feet to

801
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: knock them down or their head to knock them out.

802
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: I want to see kickball. It's the best, and we

803
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: all want to see Justin Tucker Boutwin into the faculty

804
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: parking lot. Nate, it's incredible. During your story about the

805
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: embarrassing encounter, the second you said you smelled cigar, We're

806
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: all going, oh, it's Michael, It's Schwarzenegger. I don't I

807
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: thought maybe it was Bill Clinton. Hey now, but you're

808
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: the best. Thank you, Nate, and we'll see yeah sometime

809
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: next week. Alright, And with that, Chris, you've had a

810
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: good two weeks here. What was your favorite moment? Chris,

811
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: this is a great show. I like Kyle's energy in

812
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: the different skill set that he brings, like really underrated

813
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: as far as what you know pop culture music and

814
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: your flexibility. And Peter, if you can work with an insight,

815
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have one of these shows without an insider.

816
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about guys who got real content. And

817
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure working with Peter. But the first

818
00:38:52,200 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: it's been great. It's been a great season. District