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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. The first wave

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Speaker 1: of roster cots happened, and we gave you our reaction

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Speaker 1: to that. Now it's the second wave. Paddle, you're paddling.

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Speaker 1: You're paddling the waves coming. You're catching that second wave, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you our take on all those moves,

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Speaker 1: which we knew that some of these were coming obviously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So just to recap, three players went on IR. That's

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Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell, Malie Ham and Pepe Williams. The Ravens brought

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Speaker 1: back three players, three veterans that they had released. That's

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Speaker 1: quarterback Kevon Seymour, quarterback Josh Johnson, and defensive end Brent Urban. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they also formed the practice squad. Yeah, okay, so there's

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Speaker 1: sixteen people on the Ravens practice squad. Sixteen players on

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Speaker 1: the Ravens practice squad are defensive tackle Bravian Roy, who

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Speaker 1: the Ravens picked up kind of late in the process.

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Speaker 1: He was the last addition. Then there's quarterback Anthony Brown,

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Speaker 1: guard Tykeing DAWs, running back Melvin Gordon, cornerback Jeremy Lucian,

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Speaker 1: guard Tayshawn Manning, fullback slash that end, Ben Mason, outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Moon, center, Sam Mustafer my guy defensive tackle, Rayshot Nichols,

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, Josh Ross, wide receiver, Sean Ryan wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Hilaquon Treadwell, tight end, Travis Vokeleck cornerback slash safety really

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Speaker 1: Darryl Worley and running back Owen Wright.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Then the other news Tyas Spouser state on NFI as

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Speaker 1: we knew if that wasn't that happened with the fifty

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Speaker 1: three but just well.

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Speaker 3: Then the other piece too is the Ravens did release

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Speaker 3: Kyu Kelly and he got claimed by Seattle, So the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are hopeful that he would be able to make

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Speaker 3: it through waivers and end up back on the practice squad,

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Speaker 3: but he ended up getting claimed, which you knew was

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Speaker 3: a risk fifth ront pick. He ends up going back

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Speaker 3: to the West Coast, played college ball out at Stanford,

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Speaker 3: and now he gets to go and play for Seattle.

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Speaker 3: So disappointing to lose him, but he gets the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to be on a fifty three.

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Speaker 2: So you know, bessel Duck to Kyu, Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: Soh yeah, I think I mean the moves that we

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Speaker 3: really kind of expected at least two of these. I

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Speaker 3: would say we expected came on Seymour and Brent Urban

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Speaker 3: back on the fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Yep, no surprise there.

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Speaker 1: Pepe to IR, and we.

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Speaker 3: Expect expected Pepe to R with Malie Cam and Keith

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Speaker 3: Mitchell didn't necessarily know, you know, they were missing some

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Speaker 3: practice time. Keith Mitchell got banged up in the second

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Speaker 3: last preseason game, had that big run against the Commanders,

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Speaker 3: and you know that was a shoulder injury. So him

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Speaker 3: and Millie Cam go up on IR. Doesn't That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that they're you know, done for the season. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can come back off I R. So we'll see

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Speaker 3: what h how long they're on IR.

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Speaker 1: Also, I would expect that once they're healthy, if the

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Speaker 1: Ravens were to have an injury, let's say, you know

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Speaker 1: not you got the wooden football.

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Speaker 2: Given always always thank you.

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Speaker 1: Uh, if they you know Justice, if anybody, if Justice Hill,

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Speaker 1: anybody at running back were to go down, I would

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Speaker 1: expect that Keith Mitchell would would help, assuming once he

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Speaker 1: gets healthy come off of IR.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also, like them at Land minimum required stay right

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Speaker 3: them landing on IR. I think it's worth noting here

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Speaker 3: like it does not diminish them making the fifty three

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Speaker 3: like that that accomplishment is still very significant. Like the

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Speaker 3: Ravens did not want to lose those guys. They maintained

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Speaker 3: a roster spot for them, and then they went on

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Speaker 3: IR and then the Ravens brought back these vested veterans.

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Speaker 3: So like credit to Malik and to Keaton from making

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Speaker 3: the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a bummer. I mean we talked. You know,

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Speaker 1: you celebrate it and then you're like, oh man, they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they still stories right, they still could

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Speaker 3: come back and help the team this year. For sure,

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Speaker 3: that potential exists. And uh, they deserve credit for making

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Speaker 3: fifty three. I mean Brent Urban. Start with him, like

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Speaker 3: I expect him to like he's going to play a

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Speaker 1: Well, they only have four defensive linemen, that's the now

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Speaker 3: It depends where you. Honestly, Clowney has been working with

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Speaker 3: the defensive lineman and practice and like do they use

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna use him as both, but he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's mostly gonna be an edge guy though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that possibility exists.

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Speaker 1: I mean people kind of overlooked me, and he had a

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Speaker 1: pretty solid preseason too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on he was on the bubble for me,

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Speaker 3: and so to get him back on the practice squad,

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Speaker 3: I think that's nice. Yeah, but Brent Irban's gonna like

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Speaker 3: I think Brent Urban like, I would expect him to

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Speaker 1: One, and well he and I mean Keevon Seymour same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's back on the fifty three. That guy

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Speaker 1: I think I think he will play defensive snaps for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens week one against Texans. As we've said, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to say he was gonna start opposite Rocky scene.

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Speaker 1: I think that Brandon Stephens is probably my leader in

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Speaker 1: the clubhouse. Ronald Darby could certainly be, but he's obviously newer.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's still kind of picking everything up. He said,

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Speaker 1: he told us this week that he feels like he's

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Speaker 1: picking up really fast and whatnot. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: will have had what three weeks a month almost, yeah, to.

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Speaker 2: Get to get up to speed physically and mentally.

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Speaker 1: Right, and so that's probably enough time, you know, And

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Speaker 1: and he looks fine coming back from the knee injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I think he's certainly in contention. But Kevon Seymour

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Speaker 1: I think that he will play some snaps.

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Speaker 2: I think he will play some snaps.

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Speaker 3: I think that the starter I would agree, like, I

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Speaker 3: think Brandon Stephens is probably the guy, and then Ronald

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Speaker 3: that you know that probably that that could be Arthur Mullett.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of Arthur Malllette, Art Aris Washington,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably a good way of looking

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Speaker 2: at it. Mullett. You know, the Ravens kept him on

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Speaker 1: Drop the Hammer on you this week. That was really

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Speaker 1: the highlight of the week. Oh, how does it feel

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Speaker 1: to play a cornerback? He's like, I'm not a cornerback, Garrett,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's an inside guy clearly. But I think

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Speaker 3: I think rot that hammer. I think I think that

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Speaker 3: if they go three wide, my guess would be it's

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Speaker 3: Mullette and Brandon Stevens, but it.

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Speaker 2: Could be Darby two and then yeah, I think Brent

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Speaker 2: Urban's gonna get snaps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like so Josh Johnson is the one guy that

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Speaker 1: you said we didn't necessarily know, you know, I thought

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Speaker 1: there's a decent chance he could land on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's a signal that he's back on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three that you know Snoop's been out for

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Speaker 1: a little while. Like, is snoops hamstring going to be

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Speaker 1: okay for Week one?

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Speaker 1: I think the expectation is yes, But he's now missed

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of time, you know, multiple weeks with

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Speaker 1: the hamstring, I don't know that you can confidently say

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Speaker 1: that Snoop is the number two behind Lamar. If Lamar

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Speaker 1: were to miss time, if he were to leave, you

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Speaker 1: got the football, give me, give it another we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Lamar. I actually I have to knock.

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Speaker 2: The football when we're talking about Lama.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Gosh, just hear me, all right, wooden football

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Speaker 3: back at you. Yeah, toss it over here, stone hands

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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 1: If Lamar were to go down, like, I'm not positive

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Speaker 1: that it would be Snoop stepping in. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's a chance. And now, because of the new rules.

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Speaker 2: Explain that the third quarterback rule.

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Speaker 1: So the third quarterback rule is on game days, you

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Speaker 1: don't have all fifty three guys aren't active, right, you

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Speaker 1: have your game day inactives, which so you go to

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Speaker 1: but which which still stands. But you have this extra

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Speaker 1: of emergent, in case of a health situation, your first

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Speaker 1: third player could come into the game, right, right, So

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Speaker 1: the first is that like some wide receiver ends up

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Speaker 2: This is the NFC Championship rule.

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Speaker 3: This is basically the last year the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers, Brock Party gets hurt, and then Josh Johnson

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Speaker 3: you then you had basically Christian McCaffrey and Kyle Usse

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Speaker 1: And so Josh Johnson could be the beneficiary of the

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson rule.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually a very interesting way of looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so he might be in that third quarterback spot.

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Speaker 1: But could Snoop be in that third Yeah? I think

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Speaker 3: It would not shock me going into Week one, as

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Speaker 3: Snoop has dealt with this hamstring injury, if they were

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Speaker 3: He's played these preseason games. He's you know, he's not

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Speaker 3: been dealing with an injury. We're going to make Josh

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Speaker 2: He's an opener.

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Speaker 1: Here's my my question. Even once both are fully healthy

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Speaker 1: the Ravens field, both are healthy, here's the number two

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Speaker 1: two quarter I think.

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Speaker 3: I I had Snoop on the team as a number

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Speaker 3: two quarterback, and that's where I would lean.

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Speaker 2: I think that that.

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Speaker 1: But that's vested veteran all that stuff. If they had

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Speaker 1: waves Snoop, Snoop doesn't have four years, no no but

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Speaker 1: so he could have been picked up by put all

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Speaker 1: that aside. I'm just saying that's ross. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that have Snoop being on the fit. What I am

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Speaker 1: saying is having Snoop on the original fifty three and

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Speaker 1: not Josh. I don't think is a clear cut statement

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Speaker 1: of who your number two quarterback is. You're asking me

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Speaker 1: just a way to keep both guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my list is that I would have.

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Speaker 3: Snoop as the number two quarterback. Okay, that like that's

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Speaker 3: my thought. I think that Snoop won that job. Josh

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Speaker 3: But he could have let he could have said, you

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Speaker 1: All right, any practice squad takeaways for you? No? I

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Speaker 1: There we go. If Linderbaum were to go down the game,

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Speaker 3: Melvin Gordon, you know, I think is injury insurance at

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Speaker 3: It's four games. So if you go on i R,

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Speaker 1: Right, But I think so, same as Tyas Spouser.

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Speaker 2: You can do that twice.

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Speaker 3: So it would not surprise me at all if Daryl

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Speaker 1: The Ravens still have five first round ride receivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that the Ravens brought back Josh Ross.

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Speaker 2: He want the twenty twenty four roster right now, let's

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