1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 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The Cowboys have come out and said 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: what they said publicly at the start a training camp, 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: which Micah didn't like. Micah came out and has to 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: be traded, that he was ready to move on from Dallas, 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: which I'm sure they didn't like, and right now both 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: sides seem to be angry. Now, have all their people 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: put those feelings aside in the past and figured out. 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: A way to work at a deal? Yeah, I don't 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: see that happening here. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: I see these two sides headed towards a divorce in time. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: Well, here we go. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the Dallas kylebooks and danget somehow 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: we always have to. Let's talk about it, all right, 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: all right, So you've got me here to talk about 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I'm gonna star calling them the Dallas chat Boys, 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas chat chatty chatty chatty chatty caddies. All they 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: do is chatty's talk. It's this, it's Micah, it's Jerry Jones, 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: and it's happening during the season, off season, pick a season. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: It's happening. And so here we are again. 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: You got Michael with the podcast, you got Jerry Jones 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: on radio shows and all the places that he loves 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: to just carry on these conversations, including they got the 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: new documentary that's coming out as well. So here's the problem. 41 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: The US chatter is actually costing them everything that actually matters, 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: which you know from being in those locker rooms continuity, uh, 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: team chemistry, you know, having that that bond, that thing 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: where you know what feeling good about moving forward? What 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: do we always hear you guys talk about in locker 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: rooms and clubhouses. We don't want the D word distractions, 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: And yet here we are with the Cowboys and it 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: always seems to be distractions. And it's crazy because it 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: comes from your owner. It's not coming from some annoyed 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: backup quarterback or something you know, or some running back 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: who's disgrunted. It's always coming from from your owner. So 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: let's let's talk a little bit more about it. You 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: got Michael Parsons who started the DeMarcus Lawrence stuff. Remember 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: he was talking about him when DeMarcus Lawrence left. He 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: was talking smack about him. Then DeMarcus Lawrence going back 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: to him, and they are going back and forth. And 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: when you start to do stuff like that, would imagine 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence was a guy in the locker room at 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: least half the guys like and so now when you're 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who left and it starts to 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: make him look at you. Then we got reports that 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: we have reports that some of the guys on the 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys often many of them are looking at Michael like 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: you're always talking as if you're our. 65 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: Leader and you're not. 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh oh, there are reports that that that you're not 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: that leader like that, And then Michaeh, to his own sabotage, 68 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: jumps out and he's talking about men, I want to 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: be a cowboy, don't matter. I don't even care about 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: the money. I just want to get the deal done. 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Your agent don't want to hear that, and especially publicly. 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Tell me this privately and we'll see if we can 73 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: get a deal done. Then you got Jerry Jones. Reports 74 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: are coming out that they had an opportunity they thought 75 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: about resigning Micah two years ago, and he said, nah 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Son and Jerry put an axe on that and said no, 77 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: well then we go out. 78 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: Of course, Jerry Jones. Now he's talking about when Michael 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: get hit by a train. 80 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: First of all, why would you even say that about anybody, 81 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: let alone your best player in the franchise. 82 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: Who has that nothing. 83 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: But I want to be here and be a cowboy. 84 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: So now he can get hit by a train. Look 85 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: at him. Missed six games last year? It was only four, 86 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: So now you're making me look like I missed more 87 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: than I really do. And as Adam Schefter will start. 88 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: So now you start to get this issue where it's 89 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: like a divorce for them. So to me, loose lips 90 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: shit sink ships, and that's what's happening here. Loose lips, 91 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the sinking ships where you got this team, best player, 92 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: argue with the owner, I don't want to be here. Well, 93 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, And to me, it takes away 94 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: from what you're trying to do is get back to 95 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: being twelve and five, uh huh, back to getting in 96 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the postseason and finally actually gets to the NFC Championship game, 97 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: let alone the Super Bowl. And here we are again. 98 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: So now you got your best player. Your defense wasn't 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: great last year, you had a bunch of injuries, including 100 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: in but he was still spectacular, still came up with 101 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: I believe twelve sacks. Yeah, And so to me, this 102 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: is I don't understand why we find ourselves in this 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: position again time and time again. But this is just 104 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys do. And now they're gonna lose the 105 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: best player to obviously be a trade and get a 106 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: bunch of picks, but you just don't know what that's gonna. 107 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: Be and again you lose. 108 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: And if you're Micah, it should be a lesson learned 109 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: that it's okay to lock in and focus on the 110 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: football and your team. It's okay to not always have 111 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to speak. Leadership doesn't mean you have to talk, right, 112 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I agree, But the Cowboys ship has already been sunk 113 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: for a while. 114 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: Right, they don't pay. 115 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: They don't pay the players when they're polls to regularly, 116 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: regularly for and for I mean for their franchise. So 117 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you know the players are getting their 118 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: money eventually. Obviously, Dak did you know they're gonna get 119 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: They gave the receiver Ceed Lamb, so Micah is next. 120 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: But Micah does too much talking, man, and you hit 121 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: it way too much talking. I do not like the 122 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: podcast during the season. And I'm not one of those 123 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: angry veteran players like old school players that played before. 124 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: That's that's gonna talk about them doing this podcast. And 125 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: he shouldn't, and I'm saying he shouldn't for the reason 126 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: of what you just talked about. This team hasn't been good. 127 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: If this team was good, then everything was going well. 128 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Obviously the podcast would be more recepted. Right, It's just 129 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the beast. But when you're 130 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: not playing well and your team isn't playing well and 131 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you're sitting there talking about keys for the week and 132 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: what I need to be looking for from this, like 133 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: you don't give that information up, like these things you 134 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: talk about loose lips in the organization. On my team 135 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: in New York when we had man Jennie, I mean, 136 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: it was so locked down. We didn't give any game 137 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: playing stuff away. We didn't give death charged up like 138 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: we don't because he was coming from that Patriot way 139 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: right exactly, the secrets of the trade you do not 140 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: give out. And so people in these players with these 141 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: podcasts during the season giving out information and bringing on 142 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: guests from different teams, It's like, dude, what are you 143 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: doing different? 144 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: It's insane. 145 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: So and the other part about Micah for me, when 146 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: it comes to getting paid, he's going to get paid. 147 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: He's one of the best at his position. 148 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: But I also think he I also don't think he's 149 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: lived up to where he think he is either in 150 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: this league. And so we talk about the numbers a 151 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: lot of times. His numbers never come up in games 152 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that count, Like I need him to step up in 153 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: games that count to show that he is that guy 154 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: for me personally, right, And so there's so many moving parts. 155 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the Jerry Jones thing, it's just he needs 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: to step away and we all we all know that. 157 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: I think everybody around the organization knows that as well. 158 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: But he's just never going to let it go. So 159 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: you got you kind of have to ride the wave 160 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: and see where it goes. But this Cowboys team, man, 161 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: they're in they're in trouble. It's way too much noise 162 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: coming from a team that's just not good right now. 163 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: And and you just mentioned somebody I look at to 164 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of be the dthesis of what we're saying with 165 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Micah Aaron Donald twofold one spoke to the media save 166 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: what he needed to say, but didn't have to always broadcast, 167 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to tell I'm the biggest, baddest, And then 168 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: what he did was do things when it mattered most 169 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: in the big moment, including Super Bowls. That's what I'm saying. 170 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and the ice this game. I mean, 171 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Michaeh hasn't had that chance, but I mean, but maybe 172 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: if he has that in a big game, they can 173 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: get them to that next exact exactly, you know what 174 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean. And so again I just I just look 175 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: at it with Micah. You're really, really, really good. Yes, 176 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: you don't need to add the other stuff around you. 177 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: You don't need to. You need to be really good. 178 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: And also, leaders I believe are born, did you just 179 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: some people are just natural leaders, natural born leaders. But 180 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I do believe you also don't have to be the 181 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: part of the thing that is ruining the locker room. 182 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: So meaning maybe you're not actually the leader. Just because 183 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: you're our best player, doesn't mean you're the leader hundred percent. 184 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: But also you don't have to be the reason. I 185 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: were always talking about this, going through this, you know, 186 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and splitting up the locker room. And I'm not gonna 187 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: act like I have intail that I know the locker 188 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: room is split, but what I do know is getting 189 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: from the report here. Yeah, and I'll even I'll put 190 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: go ahead because I'm gonna. 191 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: Put a name to it. Go ahead, go ahead. 192 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: No, I was just gonna say that I think when 193 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you said something on this podcast, right like, you said 194 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: it speaking for the team, yes, speak for yourself if 195 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you're doing your podcast, that's I mean, whatever you want 196 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: to do. Do it then, right like they're gonna do it. 197 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Speak on yourself. Don't speak about every situation that's happened 198 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: like you're the voice. You're the voice of the Cowboys, 199 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: because obviously it doesn't seem that he's that guy I 200 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: want to throw a name without talking about So this 201 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: is according to Jane Slater, NFL media reporter Jane Slater, 202 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys internally discuss the idea of trading Michael a couple 203 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: of years ago, and Jerry said, no, that that's what 204 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I meant me clarify that they talked about tradings Michael 205 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and Jerry said no, which 206 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: is crazy because you didn't want to trade him then 207 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: getting you know, peak some peak value. Yeah, but you 208 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: also don't want to sign him now you earlier, Like 209 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: what are we doing, Jerry, make up your mind? And 210 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: also Slater went on to talk about the fact that 211 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Micah's comments on his podcast of rough teammates the wrong way. 212 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: The team didn't always believe in him when he called 213 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: himself the leader of the team, and that one coach 214 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: even said nearly every player was in my office telling 215 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: us we needed to do something about him. So I 216 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: want to put the exact thing on there, and I 217 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: make sure this isn't me just saying stuff. This is 218 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: coming from someone in tune with the Dallas Cowboys and 219 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: their lockers. 220 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: There be sure to catch live editions of The Odd 221 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Couple with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven 222 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 223 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 224 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Bayern. 225 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I 226 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: Want Your Flex. 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You you. 240 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: I believe you brought it up with you from Yeah, 241 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: they've made it known that Daniel Jones is going to 242 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: be their starter. Anthony Richardson will no longer be that 243 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: which this is kind of a almost an annual thing. 244 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: Now he started, he's not, he's in, he's out, and 245 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: so now they have him. He spoke about it. He 246 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: was pretty professional, you know. He said, Look, I've been 247 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: working hard, pretty proud of my progress, you know, but 248 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I gotta respect what 249 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: the organization wants to do me paraphrasing for him. But 250 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: he took it professionally. But this is this is how 251 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: I view this. Carrie the Colts basically went into this 252 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: like that woman that ignored all the red flags and 253 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: looked at a man as a project. She said, I 254 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: can change him, but girl, he's never taken anybody serious. 255 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: Girl. 256 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 4: He's always an issues. Girls, he never has a job. 257 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: And she's just all she sees is his abs and 258 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: his beautiful eyes and she's just like, but I can 259 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: change him, okay, And they're sitting there saying, no, girl, look, 260 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: these are the deficiency. 261 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: He doesn't have this. He doesn't have this, he don't 262 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: have that he won't do that. He won't do that. 263 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: He said, no, I got it. I can change him. 264 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: And that's the Colts. 265 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: They looked at Anthony Richardson, who had only started thirteen games. 266 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: You knew was a project coming in, and they said, 267 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: we can change him, just like a woman jakes on 268 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: the man that she knows is a project. I'm gonna 269 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: dust him up, clean him up, clip his nails, help 270 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: him finish. 271 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: School, and then he'll be right. 272 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: He sound homeless, but sometimes well you know, they say, 273 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: if you if he knows how to be good in 274 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: one particular area, he's got a shot, He's got a shot. 275 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: And that was Anthony Richardson. 276 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: His area was the dynamic in that he could throw 277 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: the ball flick of her wrists ninety yards. He was 278 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: obviously strong as an ox and can run. And they 279 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: took that project on and now they found themselves in 280 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: a position. Last year, you remember him checking out of 281 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: a game. We're like, oh, man, something want in deitary 282 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: as a killess knee ca and he bree, what's going on? 283 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: It's something we don't know. No, I was just tired 284 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,479 Speaker 4: carry rose in your life? Have you heard a quarterback 285 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 4: excuse me? 286 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: You got done in the Nicknab throwing up on the 287 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: field to keep playing in the Super Bowl. Hey Rich said, 288 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: real quick, go in for your boy. So when you 289 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: have somebody who had been unproven even in the NFL, 290 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: if you combine NFL and college starts, you're only at 291 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight. 292 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty eight, twenty eight. 293 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: You got guys like Pennix Junior coming in forty something 294 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: before they even got to the NFL, let alone the 295 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: few he got last year. 296 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: So my final point carry. 297 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: The Colts to me had a chance to be similar 298 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: to what we see and have seen with the Packers. 299 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: Here's what I mean. 300 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: They could have been the AFC version where we go 301 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: from greatness of Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl, We 302 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: went twelve this back when a sixteen games, twelve and four, thirteen, 303 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: three every year, fifteen to two or fifteen to one, whatever. 304 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: Then we go to Andrew Luck. Huh good. 305 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you wanted more left to be desired, obviously, but 306 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: you had a good run with him ntil he retires. 307 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: If you get the right quarterback after that, you could 308 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: have had a thirty forty five year run of great 309 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: quarterback play, right like the Packers going from Brett to 310 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Aaron to now love and they missed that. They took 311 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: on the project, thought they could change him, and now 312 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: here they are going with Daniel Jones, which good for him, right, 313 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, and a good position. They got a good team, 314 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: they got some pieces offensively, and maybe he can make 315 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: get his second start. But to me, I blame the 316 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Colts and that you took your chance on this project 317 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: when you'd already had you already had the proven way 318 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: of doing it was finding that guy. 319 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 320 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: The crazy thing about the combine and actually picking some 321 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: of these players that looked the part. 322 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 4: I've seen it fail quite a bit, right. 323 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: You've had other guys come in and be high draft picks, 324 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: dominating in college and even that like dominating in college 325 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: to play games and look good on look good in 326 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: the training room, look good in the weight room, and 327 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: you think that's the missing piece and you miss out 328 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: and you without because obviously you need to see them 329 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: play against professional level talent to actually even note if 330 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: you got the answer right to the test anyway, right, 331 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: So then you get Anthony Richardson out there. It's a 332 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: big unknown. We don't know what he's gonna do. In 333 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: year one, he comes out and he plays well the 334 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: first four games before he gets hurt. So like again, 335 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: you kind of substantiate those claims of man, he might 336 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: be the guy he gets hurt early. So also at 337 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: that point, now you got to give him more time 338 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: again because it wasn't because he didn't play well, it's 339 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: because he got hurt. 340 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: Right. 341 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: So then you come in year two. Year two, the 342 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: things started to happen creep up. He's doesn't seem like 343 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: he's studying enough, doesn't seem like he's vans on the 344 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: field as far as processing. And then you also get 345 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: to see that moment with him taking himselves out of 346 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: the game. 347 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Right. 348 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Immaturity, Right, that's immaturity because if you knew the ramifications 349 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: of what that entails for you as a player, and 350 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: you've been through the grind, you would never make that 351 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: decision passing out. That's it, right, he would have made 352 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: a better educated decision in that case. So you know, 353 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: you have all these factors coming to playing year too, 354 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: so you know year three was going to be a 355 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: make or break year anyway, and the fact that he's 356 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: not getting the chance to break on the field, in 357 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: my opinion is it's kind of a disservice because if 358 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: you put all that power and investing the guy that 359 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: you think can be the guy, and with what I 360 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: just said, in those first two years, knowing that year 361 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: three could be make a break and not give him 362 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: a chance to see if that works. I don't really 363 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: like that decision at all when it comes. But this 364 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: is where I want to be on your side. 365 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: But I'm not. Yeah, no, yeah, and listen, i ain't 366 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: caping for Daniel Jones. Let me be. 367 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: So, let me be very clear. Let me look, Elijah, 368 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm a look at his camera. Let me be very clear. Okay, 369 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm not caping for your Jones. Put put the camera 370 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: on me. I ain't caping for Daniel Jones. 371 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: This ain't that. But what I'm saying is all right, 372 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: you can't be this, And you say, what is this? 373 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: I'll tell you man, that's blasphemous. You can't. 374 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: You can't have fifteen starts and have failed to complete 375 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: more than fifty percent of your pastes nine times. I 376 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you let me take the help. I 377 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard let me help said this 378 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: thing on what Rob would say, you started fifteen times 379 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL and you failed to reach nine fifty 380 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: percent in nine of those games. Name me their top target. 381 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Could you just off the top of your head. 382 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: I don't care. 383 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: If he was throwing to me and you fifty percent, 384 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: he'd be he'd be under fifty percent, throwing the me 385 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: in you. No, don't disrepect me like I'm talking about 386 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: me too. No, I don't want to be in with 387 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: your No, you need too. I'm telling you gonna beat 388 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: you moment right now. 389 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: You're in it. 390 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: So I got hands, you ain't getting open. I can't 391 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: argue I got hands, but I ain't getting open. I 392 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: will give you that. 393 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: I'm not done. 394 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Since you're trying to be a richest agent over, 395 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: here's right. 396 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: What you got? 397 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: He has failed to pass for more than two hundred 398 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: yards eleven of the fifteen times. 399 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: Again, who's his target? You are about to be my target? 400 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: Who else? What else? What else? He got? What else? 401 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: He has twenty one total touchdowns. This is where I 402 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: have a problem. Okay, if you were telling me he 403 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: had twenty one passing with seventeen turnover all, right, well 404 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, because maybe he has fifteen twenty rushing. You're 405 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: like man at least I'm getting it that way. Twenty 406 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: one total to seventeen turnovers. It's almost one for one ratios. 407 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: And again we know what the record was, not as 408 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: if he was spectacular. And final point, let's just be 409 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: more relevant, I mean more recent. Last year specific completion percentage. 410 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: What do you think it was? Well, you said the 411 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: only but maybe maybe it was one. 412 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: Of those years. 413 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: No, it was no forty seven seven and you over 414 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: here trying to act like man Steph Curry shot that 415 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: from three. His passer rating sixty one point six and 416 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: his touchdown in your interception ratio is eight to twelve. 417 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: That means you more turnovers? Now do Now do Daniel Jones? 418 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: I can't actually no, but I imagine that I have 419 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: those ready. 420 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: Pull it up. 421 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: And that's the point though. Go ahead, let me see. 422 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones, he threw more than fifteen touchdown passes 423 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: and only one of his seasons he had twenty four 424 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie, and he's had his best season came off, 425 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: of course, and that was in twenty twenty two where 426 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: he had thirty two hundred yards. 427 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: Remember they got on hate year. Yep. By the way, 428 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: it's only fifteen touchdown in five interceptions, but at least fifteen. Again, 429 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: I hate this. 430 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: This is when you say who's better nas or jay 431 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: z or Lebron or Jordan. I gotta like bring down 432 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: together like I don't want to. I don't want to 433 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: act like I'm praising Daniel Jones. I'm just saying, you 434 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: can't be that bad a rich annually. You can be 435 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: that bad your first year, year and a half. Oh, 436 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: it's something special. Did you see the way he just 437 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: threw that seventy yard bomb? May see ran over three linebackers. 438 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: Woo ooh, But you can't be that bad routinely where 439 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: we no longer have any even hope. And they talked 440 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: about we even had Ephraim saying there's really no neither 441 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: one of them really differentiating themselves. There was no huge thing. 442 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: But one of the issues they said going into this 443 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: would be also processing. Also who's getting the who's being 444 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: more sharp, who's understanding of what recall our calls? Are 445 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: getting out of the huddle faster? And you know this 446 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: and this goes for you two in any of your jobs. 447 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: I tell this all my young Minte's I tell those 448 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: people are the job you want to have everything in 449 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: your favor when they get a list of applications and 450 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: they got a Flet's say five of them time in the. 451 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: Field, are saying about five years. Okay, same schools, just 452 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 4: about the same type of schools saying okay, okay, want 453 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: the same salary. 454 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: You want to have all boxes checked for sure. And 455 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: if he's competing with Daniel Jones, who I'm sure they 456 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: don't want to just naturally give it to him. Is 457 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, for God's take. It ain't like he's you 458 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: know this, this amazing guy. But what we can't turn 459 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: around and do is if they're questioning the processing, questioning 460 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the playbook, questioning getting this out of the huddle, and 461 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: because that's that one little thing that they can go 462 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: all right, we're all in the hud. 463 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: This is it. We gotta make a decision who we 464 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: going with, Who's QB one? 465 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: And then you go, I'm gonna go with Daniel Jones, 466 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: and your stomach turned because you gotta go with Daniel Jones, 467 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: And to me, that's Anthony Richardson. You want to at 468 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: least you want to make it hard for them to say, 469 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: not me sure showing up doing this processing great on time? Leader, 470 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, understand it percentages of gone up, 471 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: gotten better year after year, or maybe game after game 472 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: or every every four weeks quarterly. But the idea that 473 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: forty seven percent, Come on, man, that's bad. That's bad. 474 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't care who he's throwing to. Seriously, No, I 475 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: know it's it's very bad. Yes, but at he seven 476 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: point seven. It's just he has I get it. He 477 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: has not played a lot of football, though, Kelvin, We've 478 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: seen Daniel Jones play and I know he's not the answer. 479 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then what if we had 480 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: this conversation yesterday right like? 481 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: It's not the same. 482 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, I know it's not the same, But 483 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying we had this conversation just yesterday, right like 484 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: you you're putting in Daniel Jones, a known commodity that 485 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: we know he's gonna play average football. That's Daniel Jones. 486 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: We know that Joe Floko's starting in Cleveland. We know 487 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna play you know, three or four like maybe 488 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: outstanding games, but the rest is going to be, you know, good. 489 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Like we know that you wanted to go with the 490 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: younger guys and give them at least time to figure 491 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: it out, right? Why not do that same thing with 492 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Because I just told you that, A he 493 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: didn't have enough starts in college, so he's still learning 494 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. 495 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 496 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Now he's in the league and he's had fifteen starts, 497 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and it's looking worse, Harry, that's the issue. 498 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: How is it looking. 499 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Worse because you like that? I know, but it don't. 500 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I hear what you know. You're you're speaking facts about it. 501 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: It does look bad, No, it looks bad because but 502 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you is I'm over here. Yes, like 503 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is that guy you are? That's what you're 504 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: doing right now. You're trying to get No. No, I'm 505 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: more mad at Anthony Richardson. Just be a little better, 506 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Just start progressing, Just start making some better throws because 507 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: you're because you're ceiling the pop factor is there? Meaning, dude, 508 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: you threw on the greatest pass I've seen in the 509 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: last ten fifty years. 510 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: That won. 511 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: He threw for like seventy yards with his pinky in 512 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: the air, just in the air, seventy yards boom, touchdown. Right, 513 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: You're fast, you're strong, But it's like, dude, if you're 514 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: and you're not. And also, what is the greatest ability 515 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: availability he's not been available as well. 516 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: You gotta factor that in. So if you're not available, 517 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: I would be fighting for you. 518 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: And it happens in all sports, man bro Good, I 519 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: know he's injured a lot, but when he's here, he's 520 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: throwing for a buck eighty rushing for eighty two touchdowns. 521 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: You know, maybe a turnal. 522 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: But when he's here, at least I'm getting that with 523 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that Porzingis effect. Yes, spoken like a Maverick fan, it's 524 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: the Porzingis effect. 525 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: Right, You're like, I know, ooh, but man, when he's on, 526 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm getting twenty four. 527 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get twelve rebound, block, a few shots, hit 528 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: a big couple of big threes. 529 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it's Anthony Davis. 530 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: When people Anthony Davis is a top five player because 531 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: he plays both sides when he's there and he's locked in. 532 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: But you're like, ah, is he gonna be there, Kyrie, Man, 533 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: that's enough. That's two Mavericks. You just named a three 534 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: for one former two on the team. 535 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: Right now, relaxed, they're gonna be healthy and ready to 536 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: go go back down the rich. So that's my point. 537 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: It's not that I Daniel Jones. 538 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I just think they're looking at it as at least 539 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: we need somebody who's gonna play most of the season. 540 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: And and and then maybe not hurt us forty seven. 541 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Come on, and you try to you try to act 542 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: like that was I mean, you know who were throwing 543 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: to a right? 544 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ahead, Robertson. 545 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 7: You started this conversation by saying, Anthony Richardson, we knew 546 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 7: coming in was raw. 547 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: We we had thirteen starts in Florida. Y uh huh. 548 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 7: Don't you think it's just bad processing? Then by Indianapolis 549 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 7: it'd be like, hey, we know he hasn't played a 550 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 7: lot of football. The only way he's ever gonna get 551 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 7: better is if he plays football. 552 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: And now they've benched him twice. That's what I'm saying. 553 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: Before three years. I'm gonna tell you all this. Y'all 554 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: sound cute. In theory, it sounds cute, and I get it. 555 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: What you guys are under selling, I'll tell you. 556 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: On the other side, Fox Sports Radio has the best 557 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 558 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 559 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Search FSR to listen. Live. 560 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Kerrie Rose is in for Rob Kelvin Washington on The 561 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Trash Talk on Tuesday, and we are joined now by 562 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: James Washington, two times Super Bowl champion, Dallas Cowboy. It's 563 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: also in the America's Team new documentary on Netflix. So 564 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: get his thoughts on that in just a moment, h James, 565 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: what's uping? How you doing? 566 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 8: Oh? Man? You know I'm killing like a villain, man, 567 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 8: just living my best life. 568 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it man. Now and and I'm trying 569 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: to remember we we ran into each other somewhere, uh, 570 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: because you know I do the news out here in 571 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: La Special. 572 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 8: I know you the dude that never called me back? Oh, 573 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 8: big time, big time. 574 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: No James, James call him out, James Mount James, James, 575 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I gotta come see you got the Do you still 576 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: got the restaurant? 577 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 8: I don't do the restaurant no more? Man. I mean 578 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 8: you know, you know Donald Trump and that's all my 579 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 8: business up. Well listen, man, I just do you know 580 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 8: I'm the president of the Rose Bowl Attitude here handles 581 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 8: all the community service that comes out of the Rose Bowl. 582 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: You know what we got to get you on the 583 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: show Man with the Spectrum Man, do you do all 584 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: the great stuff you're doing. Comunity. Let's so let's do 585 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: that all off, I'm gonna get your number again. Off 586 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: from Rob g Here, off off the Michael. We'll make 587 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: that happen for sure. We had a good time chopping 588 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: it up. 589 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: Boys. Let's talk about this. 590 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: You played with the Cowboys, obviously, you know all the 591 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: fanfare that comes with it and everything. What's it like 592 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: playing under Jerry Jones and then obviously being in a 593 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: lum and just being part of that franchise, watching how 594 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: he's conducted himself thirty some years later, where can't get 595 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game? Now, can't sign guys, Now 596 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: I won't sign Michael. 597 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: What do you make of this? Of all that the badness? 598 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 8: And they will say Jerry will be Jerry and if 599 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 8: nothing else, Jerry knows how to it up. 600 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we were right about that. 601 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: But again, if you're a Cowboys fan, you got anythink 602 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: for all the popularity, for all the money the franchise were, 603 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: for all the star players we have, we haven't won 604 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: a title since ninety five. 605 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 8: Do you know what? I think? I'm okay with that though, 606 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 8: because I will say like this, if they win, they 607 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 8: will talk about us, and if they never win again, 608 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 8: they would talk about us. So I think my guys 609 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 8: sit in a great space. I think the thing most 610 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 8: about the Dallas Cowboys and what Jerry thought he could 611 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 8: do that general manages and he hasn't figured it out. 612 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 8: You know, he needs to allow even to do his 613 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 8: thing and bring in people who understand players. You know. 614 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 8: You look at what happened, you know with the Commanders 615 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 8: and how they went in there and turn that thing around. 616 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 8: Is because it's really having relationships with players and separating business, 617 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 8: which he is probably one of the best when it 618 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 8: comes to marketing and getting the job done. I will 619 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 8: never put nobody before him in that aspect. He's taking 620 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 8: the NFL and that franchise to a whole different level. 621 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 8: But when it comes to football, even though he's just 622 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 8: as much as a fan as a general manager, you 623 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 8: can't be a fan as a general manager. 624 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: That James, I love that. 625 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: I love that you still when you talk about the 626 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Cowboy you still say us. 627 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: I hear that, I hear that pride. I hear that 628 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 4: pride when you speak about it. 629 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 8: They just got off the phone with Daran Woodson, the. 630 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Ruods guy, now I want to ask I want to 631 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: ask you about that though you're on that team when 632 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: they came up and started to find their groove again 633 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and win win a couple of championships with that team. 634 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the dynamic of that team 635 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: in that locker room and someone you got any fun 636 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: stories about how you guys were able to turn that 637 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: corner and and and finally find your groove under under 638 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. 639 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 8: I mean, the thing is is that you know, Jimmy 640 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 8: knew what he was putting together. Jimmy had a formula 641 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 8: of characters that everybody had to play their world. Unfortunately, 642 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 8: some people have to be the villain. And I was 643 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 8: one of the village. And you know, my role was 644 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: to be the enforcers, you know, and I was the 645 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 8: bodyguard and I was that guy back in the day 646 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 8: where you know, I set the tone on who I hit, 647 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 8: how I hit, and how I make plays. You know, 648 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: rules were a little different. I couldn't play in this 649 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 8: league today because you know you're going with it right, 650 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 8: so it's like God leave, you know, I can't play 651 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 8: the tech football part. But what I'm where it goes 652 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 8: is that one thing that I love and I still 653 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 8: love to this day. We played for each other. We 654 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 8: did not play for coaches, we did not play for fans. 655 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 8: We held each other accountable, even though you know, we 656 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 8: had some wild times, to good and the bad. We 657 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 8: protected each other and we still do that to this day. 658 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 8: And the fact is is that we knew how to 659 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 8: do it both. We knew how to do it on 660 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 8: the field. We knew how to do it off the field, 661 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 8: you know. And it's not till a lot of the 662 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 8: veterans end up, you know, being cast away, that it 663 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 8: got out of hand. But when But if you look 664 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 8: at the time when we were at our peak, you 665 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 8: could see if we go out, it's not just one 666 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 8: or two dudes. I mean the club. You know, you 667 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 8: got a roster of fifty three and you might have 668 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 8: twenty dudes all together at one time most of the 669 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 8: time because we played for each other, and our friendship 670 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 8: and our bonds has lasted a lifetime. 671 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: I love that, love that for sure. 672 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: James Washington two times Super Bowl CHAMPI with the Dallas Cowboys, 673 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: our guest on the Eye couple, Covid Washington k rose 674 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: in for Rob. 675 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: Did you get Speaking of Rob, did you get robbed 676 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: of the MVP in. 677 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 8: Ninety three, get robbed. I think I think I think 678 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 8: I got robbed, But I still think that it just 679 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 8: should have been a co m VP. That's like before. 680 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 8: I mean, emmittt deserves his piece because it doesn't happen, 681 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 8: because Troy was definitely off his game, you know, after 682 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 8: having that concussion and burdline getting it done and get 683 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 8: us there, you know, and being able to you know, 684 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 8: then Bernie coles Our steps in and handle his business 685 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 8: when we needed him the most to get us there. 686 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 8: And you know, so you got to think about every time, 687 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 8: you know, we a guy went down, a guy stepped up, 688 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 8: and even though at that point in time, in that 689 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 8: particular super Bowl, you know, Troy wasn't Troy James. 690 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm Jame cutting you off right now. I gotta cut 691 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: you off because you're being too modest. Eleven tackles, forced fumble, 692 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: they ended up being a touchdown? 693 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: What more? 694 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 8: I mean, what more do they want from you? And 695 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 8: they want they wanted my first born bro. You remember 696 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 8: how I told you they can't let the villain. Oh yeah, 697 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 8: villain see the MVP of the Super Bowl. Okay, okay, 698 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 8: let's let's go back to you. Let's do this super 699 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 8: Bowl twenty seven. Super Bowl twenty seven, we have nine turnovers. 700 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 8: Ken Norton played out of his mind and they gave 701 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 8: the MVP to an offensive guys. We set a Super 702 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 8: Bowl record that still stand to this day. 703 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: Man, Ken Norton, Ken Norton. 704 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 8: Saying, you see what I'm saying, Ken Norton Jr. You 705 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 8: see what I'm going with it and understanding that. Man, 706 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 8: it's if you're gonna look at the documentary. I'm trying 707 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 8: to figure out that we play defense documentary. 708 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: About They ain't saying nothing about. 709 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 8: It, right I mean, actually it must have been three amigo's. 710 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 8: They played offense defense and then Dion showed up and 711 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 8: had his worst year. 712 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 4: That is funny. 713 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Well, listen, that's why I'm giving you your props right now. 714 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Man eleven tackles crazy interception of forced fumble, fumble recovery 715 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: for touchdown. I mean, my gosh, that's easily a VP 716 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: status right there. We only got a minute or so here. 717 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Aside from the Cowboys, who are you liking right now? 718 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: Who are you saying this team? I like what they're about. 719 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: I like what they're building and maybe going into the season. 720 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: You say, you know, I'm either rooting for them or 721 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: thinking they might be able to get. 722 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 8: You a super I'm always rooting for the cow. 723 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: We know that, we know that that was a Cowboys aside. 724 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 8: Hey hey, I'm one of those delusional fans as well. 725 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 8: But you know who I like though. I like what 726 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 8: they're doing up in Washington. I think the MT you know, 727 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 8: when you look at the NFC, I like what they're building. 728 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 8: I like what they've done in the draft and bringing 729 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 8: players in there that's playing for each other. Philadelphia is 730 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 8: gonna as long as they got the nucleus of what 731 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 8: they're doing, it's gonna be hard for people just to 732 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 8: just beat them up because they when you have an 733 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 8: offensive line and a defensive line that plays good football. Man, 734 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 8: it's difficult in the league. And plus they're playing flag anyway, 735 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 8: so it's just a matter of being able to out 736 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 8: maneuver everybody. 737 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 4: He said they're playing flag, carry they are. It's it's 738 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: a glorify the five version of the flag. Yeah, I'm 739 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: going with it. 740 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: Hey, Rob g we about to get I'm gonna get 741 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: out of the studio to safety is ready to light 742 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: me up? 743 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 4: Right now? Hey, man, James, we appreciate you as always. 744 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, brother, and I'm definitely I 745 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: told Robber, I'm gonna make sure I get your number 746 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: one reach out. 747 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 8: To you, all right. 748 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: I appreciate you all right, James work