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Speaker 2: Lib suggested something that I think he thought sounded super great,

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Speaker 1: Is Trump pulling a three D move? And the wits?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, the VMAs, not the WNBA, neither nobody watches either

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about something that I think is really

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Speaker 2: interesting regarding programming ratings and what the left is doubling

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Speaker 2: down on all that more coming up on this episode

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Speaker 2: of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting the

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Speaker 2: Before we get to those stories in our fantastic panel,

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Speaker 2: We've got a fantastic panel lined up today.

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Speaker 1: We've got to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Circular money funding thing going on specifically in California. Now,

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Speaker 2: none of this is new, We've seen this a number

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Speaker 2: of times before. But let me set this up. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you don't know, California's production center, production capital, the

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Speaker 2: Hollywood world is going away. People are able to on

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Speaker 2: a lower budget with newer equipment that is more nimble

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Speaker 2: and able to travel. They're able to go film elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: And considering California is incredibly difficult to work with laws

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Speaker 2: around employees and productions and unions, nobody is filming anything

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Speaker 2: in California. So because of that, Governor Newsom in the

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Speaker 2: Californian said, hey, we need to incentivize people to stay

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Speaker 2: in this state. They start off with a three hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty million dollar tax credit program. That is, it's

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Speaker 2: ballooned up to three quarters of a billion dollars. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: where is that money going. Well, just this year, Governor

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Speaker 2: Newsom gave a seventy million dollar tax credit to Netflix,

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Speaker 2: of all people. Also totally completely unrelated, not at all.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just a total coincidence. Reed Hastings, the CEO,

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Speaker 2: gave three million dollars to Gavin Newsom's defense of his

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Speaker 2: million dollars into the redistricting effort from Gavin Newsom in

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Speaker 2: that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: Again, just total coincidence.

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Speaker 2: There's no correlation at all with the fact that they

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Speaker 2: got seventy million dollars in tax credits. But the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, the one thing remains, why does nobody

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Speaker 2: want to film in the state of California? And two

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Speaker 2: why are they getting all that money? Because I hope

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Speaker 2: I didn't bury the lead here. In twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four, only four percent of all of

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Speaker 2: Netflix productions were filmed primarily in California, which, again, if

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Speaker 2: you're getting seventy million dollars in tax credits, you think

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Speaker 2: that number would be just a little bit higher. Here

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Speaker 2: to comments on that and so much more is Brile

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Speaker 2: and Holly Hand, political commentator and host of The Nightly Scroll.

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Speaker 2: Haley Karen Nita. Guys, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so thanks for having us, Haley.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's lots of different levels of this one.

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Speaker 2: Why does California need to cough up three quarters of

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Speaker 2: a billion dollars to get people to stay and two again.

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Speaker 2: Kind of if it walks like corruption, talks like corruption,

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Speaker 2: feels like a circular money exchange between Gavin and his friends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is exactly what it is. And it does

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Speaker 4: not pay to do business in California.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't pay.

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Speaker 4: You get hit with all of these taxes, even with

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Speaker 4: the tax credits and all the things that Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 4: is trying to do. He's throwing lipstick on a pig

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Speaker 4: to try to make it look better. And something that

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom is trying to do right now, make no mistake,

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Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to brilan.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that Governor Newsom has been

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Speaker 2: this is the disaster we got to fix. This obviously

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Speaker 2: exactly one of those. He says, Well, we've got to

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Speaker 2: of three quarters of a billion dollars in tax incentives.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you made them leave. Do voters in California

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Speaker 1: but also around the country, do you think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: that he does consistently like identifies the problem, says we

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Speaker 3: California voters are waking up and they're fleeing to states

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Speaker 3: like Texas and Florida. When they wake up and smell

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Speaker 3: Paul a few days ago a New York Times study

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Speaker 3: Governor Newsom come out front have a press conference with

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Speaker 3: this same signed, same logo that said fix California. Well, buddy,

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Speaker 3: I mean, only in California could you launder taxpayer money

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Speaker 3: through Netflix faster than you could get a new season

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Speaker 3: of The Stranger Things. I mean, we're looking at this

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I just can't wait

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: I trying to make a joke that I watch, but

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Speaker 2: actually nobody does. You know, things that libs do is

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Speaker 2: The New York Times.

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Speaker 1: Haley, I'm not sure if you.

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Speaker 2: Saw this on Sunday in his podcast, said something that

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Speaker 1: He just stuck a big one, and.

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Speaker 2: In reality I kind of read it at face value

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Speaker 2: he is pushing for at least considering shutting the government down, which,

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Speaker 2: to my sat isn't that what Doge is.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to do. Aren't we like proponents of like yeah,

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Speaker 2: The thing down more and more and more and more.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought up the Doge point, because

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Speaker 4: These are the same people that were demonizing Doze. They

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Speaker 1: I hate the government, brilin in this seriously.

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Speaker 2: When the government quote unquote shuts down, right, all of

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Speaker 2: doesn't that give us an opportunity to go, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: perfect well, that person's not needed, that department is not needed.

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Speaker 1: Oh the hell with this whole department?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 1: There? Is this an upside for us?

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Speaker 3: One thousand percent upside? And it kind of reminds them

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Speaker 3: point was in California and just started unplugging things in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a guy in private industry, with the second

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Speaker 1: That's the way the rest of the world works.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of people who are entirely unemployed, Apparently people are

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Speaker 1: I thought we were done with this.

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Speaker 2: Turns out over the weekend there was thousands of people

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Speaker 1: We don't like save streets in d C Hailey. What's

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Speaker 4: Well, we saw this with the no Kings protests where

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Speaker 4: kind of protesters over the weekend. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think they're getting paid regardless. I think if they

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Speaker 4: It's more of the same. They're not doing anything. Testing

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Speaker 4: is virtue signaling. I'm a First Amendment absolutist. I protect everyone.

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Speaker 4: I support everyone's right to protest, but it is a

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, This is just putting a spotlight on all of

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Speaker 3: just activists and celebrity clothing, like dancing up there on

436
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Speaker 3: the stage trying to get a lot of attention with

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Speaker 3: the least amount of clothing possible. And I'm on a

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Speaker 3: college campus. I mean, I'll tell you, Sabrina Carpenter's target

439
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Speaker 3: audiences college students. The target audience to the VMA production

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Speaker 3: is college students. Not a single person I know watched

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Speaker 3: this last night. I hung out with friends last night.

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Speaker 3: I was a Bible study with friends last night. That

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Speaker 3: group of people wasn't there. I've been on a college

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Speaker 3: campus all day. I've had classes all morning. Not a

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Speaker 3: single person's brought it up in classes. I was an

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Speaker 3: elector hall about three hundred people. Was a single person

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Speaker 3: watching highlights or talking about the VMA's last night, Not

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Speaker 3: at all. They were watching college football highlights. Nobody cares

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Speaker 3: about the VMAs. Somebody cares about Sprina Carpenter in today's America,

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Speaker 3: And I just want to remind you of this. We

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Speaker 3: talk about Hollywood and talk about what it used to

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Speaker 3: be with these type shows. Think of the days not

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Speaker 3: too long ago that we had a conservative president an

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Speaker 3: actor come out of Hollywood. The days of Ronald Reagan

455
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Speaker 3: in this whole era is totally by gone, and he

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Speaker 3: would be unrecognized today in that modern state. This is unfortunate,

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Speaker 3: but again to Haley's point, not shocking at all.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm developing a theory now in real time.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the VMA's also got one of those elusive tax

460
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Speaker 2: credits from the governor of California, and then because of

461
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Speaker 2: that they're pushing the woke nonsense continually, even though it's

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Speaker 2: detrimental to their own influence. I just I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's what's going on there, Hailey Brylan, Guys, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. Have a good week.

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Speaker 7: What should people know about the most popular food scanner apps?

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Speaker 8: Oh that they just.

488
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Speaker 7: Do not trump your brain. They just could never Like.

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Speaker 8: These food scanner apps that people are getting so obsessed

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Speaker 8: with are just not accurate. I mean, at the end

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Speaker 8: of the day, you can only scan what's available to you.

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Speaker 8: And I think people like it because they don't have

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Speaker 8: to think, right and when you just stop thinking. That's

494
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Speaker 8: exactly what they want. You know, they don't want you

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Speaker 8: thinking about any types of options that you're trying. I

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Speaker 8: mean even for me, like if I go into my

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Speaker 8: local Target or Walmart, I can scan all day, but

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Speaker 8: if I don't have good options, I'm gonna feel stressed

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Speaker 8: having to pick something bad because this scanner told me

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Speaker 8: that it's bad. Right, So if I don't really have

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Speaker 8: a lot of decent options there, you know, I'm getting stressed.

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Speaker 8: You know, I could imagine if I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 8: there's no clean shampoo or there's no you know, good

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Speaker 8: snack options here. Everything has canola, everything has sunflower on

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Speaker 8: this app is telling me how bad it is. I'm

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Speaker 8: going to go home stressed and pissed off, you know, like.

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Speaker 7: Help do Some of these food scanner apps allow brands

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Speaker 7: to pay them so that their product will be recommended.

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Speaker 8: I would think so. I mean, I don't know one

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Speaker 8: hundred percent, but there's been a lot of speculation that

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Speaker 8: there are brands paying for better scores.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you this. The Yucca app will tell you

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Speaker 7: beef talo is bad. I think it labels it as

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Speaker 7: a saturated fat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I've done my brain versus the yuck app

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Speaker 8: so many times, and it's kind of mind blowing the

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Speaker 8: things that they allow on that app because they allow

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Speaker 8: brands like cetophil, which has a lot of endocrine disruptors

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Speaker 8: in that and they think it's like a hundred, like

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Speaker 8: it's a great product.

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Speaker 7: I recently did.

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Speaker 8: One where I saw that it will say that essential

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Speaker 8: oils are bad, which essential oils of course, like if

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Speaker 8: you're allergic, it can maybe cause skin irritation, but if

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Speaker 8: you're not allergic, it's really not an issue. But it

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Speaker 8: won't say that fragrance is bad. And fragrance can hide

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Speaker 8: we know like hundreds of different types of parabins and

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Speaker 8: endocrine disruptors and thall. It's that brands don't necessarily have

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Speaker 8: to disclose. So how are you allowing that?

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Speaker 7: Somebody asked me the other day, on a scale of

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Speaker 7: one to ten, how important is it really that I

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Speaker 7: avoid fragrance?

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Speaker 8: For me, it's a ton, I said ten, ten out

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Speaker 8: of ten. That's the one thing I tell people get

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Speaker 8: out of your house. I mean, I work with brands

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Speaker 8: all the time that I'll say that they use you know,

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Speaker 8: natural fragrance, and then they're very open about what is

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Speaker 8: actually in that, and it looks great to me, right,

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Speaker 8: I'm like, wow, this is amazing, and it's a proprietary blend.

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Speaker 8: They don't want somebody, you know, really copying their thing.

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Speaker 8: But we don't have that opportunity when we're at an

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Speaker 8: app and when we're at a store and the app

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Speaker 8: is telling us that it's bad, right, Like, we don't

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Speaker 8: have the opportunity to go and email the brand really

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Speaker 8: quickly let me just see what's in it. So I

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Speaker 8: just say people like tell people just to avoid fragrance.

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Speaker 8: It is the best thing that you're going to do

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Speaker 8: for your hormones, for your thyroid, for your pets, for

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Speaker 8: your kids. They should not be inhaling things that you

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Speaker 8: have no idea how it's you know, being treated really

552
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Speaker 8: because you have no idea what they're putting in there.

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Speaker 7: Do you have as strong a feelings as I do

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Speaker 7: about Trader Joe's that we hate it? Do you hate

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Speaker 7: it because I don't like Trader Jokes. I don't like

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Speaker 7: Trader Joe's either. What's your reasoning? I mean they okay,

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Speaker 7: they have beautiful flowers. Yeah, right, we can all agree.

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Speaker 8: We have some united front that Traders has great flowers,

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Speaker 8: and they also have like good I don't know about

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Speaker 8: your Trader Joe's, but the produce section is like pretty decent,

561
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Speaker 8: but almost everything has inflammatory oils. It's just re branded

562
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Speaker 8: junk food, that's all it is. And it's always old

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Speaker 8: people in there because they like the ready made meals

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Speaker 8: and I understand like the convenience of it, but it's

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Speaker 8: all just rebranded junk and it's filled with so many

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Speaker 8: artificial preservatives and just unnecessary ingredients, Like there's no reason

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Speaker 8: for all of that. I mean, it looks appealing because

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Speaker 8: they have all different types of flavors and combinations, but

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Speaker 8: for me, it's not where I go to shop.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the purpose of Trader Joe's. I don't

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Speaker 7: care what anybody says. You're not only going there for

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Speaker 7: their produce. I think that they offer a good produce selection,

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Speaker 7: and I think it's a lot of times cheaper. But

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Speaker 7: beyond that, you stop blind yourself, stop be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it is the ultra processed food in that store that

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Speaker 7: hooks everybody, and it is good as and it tastes good,

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Speaker 7: but it is filled with crap. And they'll be like, well,

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Speaker 7: they don't have artificial dies.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, they.

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Speaker 7: Don't have our visual dies, but they have five other things. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so that's I'm just like, people are obsessed with this store,

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Speaker 7: and I just think it is so unbelievably overrated and unhealthy. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and they have great customer service, but so to shape

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Speaker 7: flat and that's also just as bad.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean I try to do you know, swap videos

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Speaker 8: and Trader Joe's are things that I would actually buy

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Speaker 8: at Trader Joe's And it's very very very hard. Like

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Speaker 8: I see things all the time and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 8: like this looks so good, but it's just filled with

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Speaker 8: inflammatory oils and just like preservatives, krigein and like things

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Speaker 8: that I just don't want in my food. And people

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Speaker 8: just I think if fifty percent of the store is frozen,

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Speaker 8: like everything's in the frozen food section, it's probably not

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Speaker 8: the best for you.

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Speaker 7: How would you implement all of this health and wellness

597
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Speaker 7: knowledge if you were about to start college and live

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Speaker 7: on campus with a strict budget.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, just minimize, minimize, minimize. I think so

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Speaker 8: many people think that they need so much. I think

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Speaker 8: that's the problem with social like wellness social media is

602
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Speaker 8: we tell everybody that we need everything, you know, we

603
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Speaker 8: need all the supplements and all the things.

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Speaker 7: And I always tell people.

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Speaker 8: That the first thing you need to do is get

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Speaker 8: rid out of a lot of the things that you

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Speaker 8: think that you need. Like there's no reason you need

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Speaker 8: five different cleansers and five different you know, toners and

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Speaker 8: skincare items. Like my skincare routine is probably three things.

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Speaker 8: And I'm like good with that. We don't need all

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Speaker 8: of the things. But I think especially moms who are

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Speaker 8: buying their daughter's things for college, you know, like it

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Speaker 8: doesn't have to be the most expensive stuff. There's amazing

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Speaker 8: you know, teenage friendly skincare brands that aren't you know

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Speaker 8: that you're gonna find at Sephora, and they're you know,

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Speaker 8: filled with the synthetic fragrance and the endocrine disruptors, especially

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Speaker 8: like at that age. And I think especially for people

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Speaker 8: in college, whether you know, girls or boys, to don't

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Speaker 8: get in not to really get into the alcohol hype too,

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Speaker 8: because I think once you start getting to the alcohol

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Speaker 8: hype and going to the frat parties and the sorority

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Speaker 8: houses and you start getting into drinking culture, your health

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Speaker 8: is going to take a turn. I think everybody that

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Speaker 8: I know that was in college. We all had terrible health, Like, yes,

625
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Speaker 8: we ate terribly, but we drank on like Tuesdays and Thursdays,

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Speaker 8: you know, like we were always just part of drinking culture.

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Speaker 8: And you know, we have like an intern now that

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Speaker 8: is just graduated college and she's like, I didn't drink

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Speaker 8: in college.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, is this the new generation? Like the new

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Speaker 7: generation just not drinking anymore, is embracing sobriety more than

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Speaker 7: any other generation, I think, which is great. What I

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Speaker 7: say to college kids is and I know a bunch

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Speaker 7: are about to start school. That's why I want to

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Speaker 7: bring up this conversation because you get asked us sometimes.

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Speaker 7: Is I think one, if you're living on campus in

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Speaker 7: a dorm, sometimes your dorm will have a kitchen, so like,

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Speaker 7: no one uses that yet, but you could. You could

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Speaker 7: ask for a mini you know, pots and pans set

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Speaker 7: and then you could all d Walmart again, doesn't have

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Speaker 7: to be organic if you can't afford it, just getting

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Speaker 7: real food, ingredient food and then cooking meals. One access

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Speaker 7: to the kitchen, use it too. If you are going

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Speaker 7: to be eating on campus at their little restaurants and

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Speaker 7: all that. In the food court. Then it's the real

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Speaker 7: food items. Try not just try to do like you know,

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Speaker 7: protein and vegetables and rice, grape, those types of things.

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Speaker 7: And I would say avoid all the fried stuff for sure.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like I would like to see

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Speaker 8: a little grassroots movement of all these college kids doing

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Speaker 8: potluck style dinners.

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Speaker 7: Well, I also said, I mean this is going to

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Speaker 7: take a special type of kid. Yeah, But also I said,

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Speaker 7: you know, here's the thing. You are paying that school there.

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Speaker 7: You are the paying customer. If all of these kids

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Speaker 7: rise up and say this is bs, we deserve better

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Speaker 7: food options. I am paying to go here, you should

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Speaker 7: give me access to better real organic food. I feel

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Speaker 7: like a lot of schools would start listening if you've

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Speaker 7: got enough kids on campus rising a ruckus about it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I agree, I think more kids that I mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's just so hard, like I'm hoping that the parents

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Speaker 8: that are sending their kids to college will be the

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Speaker 8: encouragers of doing something in that way. For me, it's

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Speaker 8: my heart hurts when I see all these preteen and

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Speaker 8: teenage girls stuffing their baskets at Sephora with just endocrine disruptors,

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Speaker 8: and you're lathering it all over your bodies, in your

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Speaker 8: you know, those are the years where your hormones are

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Speaker 8: really developing. You know, you're getting into the years where

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Speaker 8: you're probably gonna start thinking of kids after college.

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Speaker 7: Right, this is why the Jena drunk elephant obsession at

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Speaker 7: Sephora is so dangerous. Oh, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: Actually, I was going to do a video on drunk

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Speaker 8: Elephant and a lot of these brands at Sephora because

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Speaker 8: Sophora also has a quote unquote clean section, so does Target.

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Speaker 8: A lot of brands are trying to create clean sections

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Speaker 8: and they are just nowhere close to my standard of clean.

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Speaker 8: Like many of them will allow fragrance, which if you

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Speaker 8: aren't willing to disclose what that fragrance is, then it

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Speaker 8: probably shouldn't be in the clean section. And all these

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Speaker 8: girls are thinking like, maybe I'm doing myself some justice

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Speaker 8: by getting something in the quote unquote clean section, and

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Speaker 8: it's still filled with potential endocrindosis.

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Speaker 7: So what actual clean brands are at Sephora.

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Speaker 1: If there are any?

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Speaker 8: Let me think of saus Yeah, makeup wise, kosas Ilia,

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Speaker 8: RMS ARMS is probably my favorite one.

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Speaker 7: Those are like the top three that I origins truly clean,

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Speaker 7: or maybe they do fragrance code.

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Speaker 8: I don't think they are totally is not clean. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that is not a clean brand.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's some things that I don't care about.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some interesting videos today.

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Speaker 2: We've got a little bit of time, so we get

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time to discuss some more nuanced things,

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Speaker 2: some things that might sound great if you're a twenty

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Speaker 2: year old with zero world experience. But I want to

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Speaker 2: play this video from I believe he's an assemblyman at

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Speaker 2: the time. You're going to recognize this guy's face, Mam

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Speaker 2: Danny over there in New York as an assembly member

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Speaker 2: talking about how well, let me rephrase that. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if he's an assembly member when recording this video.

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Speaker 2: This is a video that he put out talking about

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Speaker 2: how he's going to restructure housing, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: how bad these ideas are and why they are such

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Speaker 2: awful ideas after this, watch this, and we'll discuss further

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Speaker 2: toward the Vienna model. We'll have to go beyond the market.

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Speaker 10: We can establish community land trust to gradually buy up

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Speaker 10: housing on the private market and convert it to community ownership.

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Speaker 10: We can give tenants to right a first refusal to

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Speaker 10: buy out their landlords when builds go out for sale.

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Speaker 10: And we can fully commit to a new era of

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Speaker 10: social housing, ending subsidies for luxury housing development, and using

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Speaker 10: our wealth to build beautiful, high quality social housing projects

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Speaker 10: that offer good homes and strong communities to everyone. We

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Speaker 10: won't decommodify housing overnight, but we know what we have

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Speaker 10: to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So he's made three different, in all equally interesting points.

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Speaker 2: The last one was kind of broad. He's like, we can,

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Speaker 2: we can decommodify housing. I mean, I don't need to

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Speaker 2: go into the reasons why that's a bad idea. You

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Speaker 2: have to incentivize people to do good things, or else

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Speaker 2: they won't do the good things.

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Speaker 1: The second point he made was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 2: Tenants get first right of refusal if somebody wants to

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Speaker 2: sell the building. Okay, Well, the potential problems that would

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Speaker 2: come from that is, so if I own a building

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Speaker 2: and I want to sell that building, I have to

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Speaker 2: give my tenant the right to refuse. That's what right

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Speaker 2: of refusal means. Okay, well, what price is the government

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Speaker 2: stepping in and telling me, well, I have to sell

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Speaker 2: it to this tenant at this rate because this is

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Speaker 2: what their rent is. Maybe they're paying super under valued

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Speaker 2: rent and therefore it doesn't equate to what the building

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Speaker 2: is actually worth. There's a lot of problems that go

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Speaker 2: on there, especially if it's mandated that I have to

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Speaker 2: make sure my tenant doesn't want to buy the property first,

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Speaker 2: and if they do, can they tie me up in

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Speaker 2: some sort of legal battle which diminishes the value of

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Speaker 2: the property on the open market. There's lots of problems

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Speaker 2: with that. But I think the one big one that

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Speaker 2: I think was really interesting is talking about forming community trust.

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Speaker 2: I figure out what he calls it, specifically, where they

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Speaker 2: can buy up houses on the private market. This is

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Speaker 2: where I feel like a bunch of twenty year old

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Speaker 2: libs would go, Wow, that's a great idea, and then

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Speaker 2: we can all collectively own it.

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Speaker 1: Here is the massive and glaring problem.

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Speaker 2: And interestingly enough, I know several people that are experiencing

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Speaker 2: this sort of thing right now.

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Speaker 1: When a government enters into the bidding process for houses.

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Speaker 1: One thing that the government can do that the private

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Speaker 1: sector cannot, and this is not a good thing that

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Speaker 1: they can do this is they can issue their own

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Speaker 1: debt in order to outbid the private sector. In other words,

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Speaker 1: if a house or a building, let's just say it's

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Speaker 1: worth a million dollars, okay, and using round numbers here,

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Speaker 1: a private sector owner can come in and say I

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Speaker 1: will give you, you know, eight hundred thousand dollars or

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Speaker 1: a million dollars. They can even go up to one

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Speaker 1: point two million dollars. But at a certain point, the

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Speaker 1: ability to buy that house needs to be rooted in

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Speaker 1: what the building is actually valued at. Then comes in

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Speaker 1: the government and that house, which is worth building is

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Speaker 1: worth a million dollars, you know, might fluctuate a little

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Speaker 1: bit depending on who's bidding and why they're bidding on

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Speaker 1: it for in the private sector. Then the government comes

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Speaker 1: in and says, no, I'm buying it. And I'm buying

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Speaker 1: it for two million dollars. Well, it would be ridiculous

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Speaker 1: of the owner to not sell to the government. The

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Speaker 1: problem is the government doesn't have the money to buy

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Speaker 1: that building. Instead, they've issued debt, and then therefore the

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Speaker 1: people that are being represented by said government now have

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Speaker 1: that debt saddled upon them. So the government now owns

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Speaker 1: the building, bid out or outbid all of the other

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Speaker 1: private sector individuals who wanted to purchase that building. The

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Speaker 1: government then has no incentive to upkeep the building because

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Speaker 1: why would they, and is now saddled with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of debt which nobody wants to pay because while the

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Speaker 1: dilapidated building isn't worth two million dollars, so why are

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Speaker 1: we going to pay this back except the fact that

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Speaker 1: they have to, because there's a fiduciary duty for people

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Speaker 1: to have to pay their debts back. The whole thing

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Speaker 1: to be said is when the government bids on things

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Speaker 1: and can issue debt, unlike people in the private sector,

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Speaker 1: they're going to inflate the value and saddle the voters

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Speaker 1: or the constituents with the debt that they use to

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Speaker 1: irresponsibly buy a thing they couldn't freaking afford. That took

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Speaker 1: up a lot more time than I thought it was

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Speaker 1: going to. I'm passionate about this sort of stuff because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, it is going on in a place

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Speaker 1: that I know and love, and the municipality in question

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Speaker 1: is buying up property with money they don't have issued

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Speaker 1: on debt that's going to be saddled to the to

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Speaker 1: the the individuals in the city, and that is the government.

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Speaker 2: That's why people don't compete with the government. That's why

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Speaker 2: the grocery store owners in Manhattan or in New York

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Speaker 2: as a whole say I will leave. I will not

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Speaker 2: compete with someone that has leverage that I do not

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Speaker 2: have in the free market.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, that took a lot longer than I

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Speaker 2: thought it was going to. I'm not even sure we

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Speaker 2: have time to play clip too. Let's go to clip three,

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Speaker 2: because I think this is much shorter and I think

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Speaker 2: illustrates the point to the.

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Speaker 1: Point where I don't have to ramble on about it afterward.

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Speaker 2: Watch this and we'll briefly discuss before we gotta we

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Speaker 2: gotta sign off.

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Speaker 1: Check this out.

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Speaker 3: I know this is an outdated term, but it's cultural appropriation,

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Speaker 3: not a thing anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're Middle Eastern.

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Speaker 6: You can't wear that scarf like technically mag that he's

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Speaker 6: culture appropriate.

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Speaker 10: That's shame.

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Speaker 9: Shame, shame, shame. You really should be a shame to yourself.

867
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna film it one. Look at that.

868
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: That is a white person. That is a white person. Shame, shame.

869
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 10: It's culture appropriation.

870
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 6: You have a good point, shame, you have a great point.

871
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: I've shaming her because she's white and she's wearing a

872
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 3: Middle EASi head dress.

873
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: It's really not okay.

874
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: I love I love throwing liberal logic right back in

875
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: their face. I also, uh, the narcissism of the young

876
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: lady wearing whatever it is that she's wearing to to

877
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: just stay there and think that I can solve this

878
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: problem and you just walk away with that sort of

879
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 2: things happening.

880
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: So dumb on two fronts.

881
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Uh, that's gonna do it for us here at turning

882
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Points and night, Charlie's gonna take us out. We will

883
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: see the same time, same place tomorrow, God bless America.

884
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 9: And so the Democrats have actually been focused on this.

885
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 9: Then this is what Obama unlocked for them. Obama was

886
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 9: able to get people up out and get get people excited.

887
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 9: This is actually where they're struggling is because they're at

888
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 9: the national level really lacking that that interest. Our side

889
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 9: has to realize that and realize, hey, move moving forward.

890
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 9: You know, after Donald Trump, you're going to have to

891
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 9: make sure that the people love just want to get

892
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 9: up and work for that person who's running.

893
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: So part of what we are building, and more specifically

894
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 5: what you are building that you know we're doing together,

895
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: is trying to build an outside party organizational apparatus that

896
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: is not at odds necessarily with the establishment Republican Party

897
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 5: at all times. We'll pick some fights every so often

898
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: if they go out of control, like Liz Cheney or McConnell.

899
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, destructive, yeah, But instead it is.

900
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 5: An outside organization. Why what can an outside organization do

901
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 5: that the party itself cannot do? Again, I'm not knocking

902
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 5: the RNC. I get along with Chairman Wattley. He's running

903
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 5: for the Senate. We've come a long way since McDaniel, mccromney,

904
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 5: and Tyler deserves credit because he picked the fight first.

905
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 5: We just finished it. And I believe that if she

906
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 5: would remain chairman, Donald Trump would not be president. Today,

907
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I would I could prove that point. I

908
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 5: think if Rona would have stayed and ran the rn C,

909
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: donald Trump would not have won in November. I think

910
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: she would have prevented Donald Trump's victory. Beliether or not,

911
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 5: no question anyway, and that that's not a knock at Trump,

912
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 5: that's just a knock at Runna. But so, but Tyler,

913
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: what can an outside organization do? Why is it different,

914
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 5: how is it funded differently? What are the flexibilities? Why

915
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: does it matter?

916
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 9: So everybody knows there's a number of different things that

917
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 9: the party can't do that outside or nonprofits can do.

918
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 9: And the first and foremost and the first big problem

919
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 9: is just funding limitations. Parties can only accept so much

920
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 9: money in.

921
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 5: Most states nine hundred thousand dollars a year.

922
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, but then it drills down into candidates, so very complicated.

923
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 9: Candidates can only only collect so much per person per

924
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 9: year when you get into the outside. Obviously we know

925
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 9: independent expenditures things like that, but this is the problem

926
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 9: that exists candidate. The candidate cycle in America is essentially

927
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 9: two years, right, So most people don't announce that they're

928
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 9: running more than two years before they're they're actually gonna run.

929
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 9: It's tip less than that. The average is usually less

930
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 9: than a year, believe it or not. And there's no

931
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 9: possible and fundamental way that you can build a campaign

932
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 9: infrastructure that can do all the things that that are

933
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 9: necessary to win if you if the other side is

934
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 9: doing them full time. So the first and foremost is hiring,

935
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 9: you know, door knockers, hiring people that are going to

936
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 9: make building effective relationships for you out out in the field.

937
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 9: The second is legal. There's no way that you're going

938
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 9: to be able to fight a fight with someone in

939
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 9: the in the remaining sixty days of the election if

940
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 9: your opponent's been basically crafting in an entire legal strategy

941
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 9: against you for two to four years. And this is

942
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 9: part of what the law fair things has been done

943
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 9: to Donald Trump that nobody ever talks about is the

944
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 9: outside yeah, and to me, which is you know, we're

945
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 9: winning this thing, but you know you have a real

946
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 9: struggle with that. The third thing, which is most critical

947
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 9: with parties that people never talk about too, is that

948
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 9: most people don't realize those that have been involved who

949
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 9: here has been involved with like.

950
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: Their local Republican party.

951
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 9: Okay, a little more than half the room.

952
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: If you've ever walked in, though, that's more than great.

953
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 9: When you walk in, how has your experience been in

954
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 9: that in that fundamental time.

955
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: The DMV is better.

956
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little cry I'd rather go through.

957
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 9: It's a little gritty. Sometimes you walk in there's like

958
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 9: kind of just fighting happening that's going on.

959
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: You don't really know what's going on.

960
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: And people now they have fax machines everybody.

961
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Some of it's really old.

962
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 9: So when I took over when I was the county

963
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 9: chairman of Americopa County over ten years ago.

964
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 5: Now it's amazing.

965
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: Ten years ago, I was.

966
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 9: In my mid twenties and my average precinct committeeent was

967
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 9: seventy one. So there's sometimes a cultural divide that happens.

968
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 9: But the most critical part is that most of those

969
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 9: jobs for leadership are two years or less, right, So

970
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 9: they're two years. The average state party chair Charlie only

971
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 9: serves for a year. States like Hawaii have gone to

972
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 9: like five or six the last couple of years.

973
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: So you have a.

974
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 9: Real problem when you have the party leadership only being

975
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 9: able to survive for months, and by the time they

976
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 9: get in, they get their feet wet, they're figuring it out.

977
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 9: It's our six months down the road. They're almost checking

978
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 9: out by the time they check in. So there's no

979
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 9: way for the party itself to actually do the job

980
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 9: that everyone claims when they become chair that they're doing. Yes,

981
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 9: And that was the Ruanda problem that you brought up,

982
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 9: the fundamental problem with Rono. She was going across the

983
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 9: entire country telling everyone she was doing all the work

984
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 9: that was necessary to win, and upon further inspection, none

985
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 9: of that was being done.

986
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 5: So then how are we at turning point action going

987
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: up fixing this?

988
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, so the outside model works. We proved that this

989
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 9: last election cycle, the largest swing of any state was Arizona.

990
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 9: And it wasn't by any mistake. It was hard nose

991
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 9: to the grindstone, boots on the ground, as Charlie says,

992
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 9: tennis shoes and clipboard work.

993
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 5: We give it all we have.

994
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 9: That was throwing absolutely everything you.

995
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: Possibly can and we throw everything.

996
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 9: We had everything everything, I mean, we literally just like

997
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 9: unleashed on the state. And the outcome was exactly what

998
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 9: we expected. Was that there we had a body of

999
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 9: about four hundred thousand people who did not vote in

1000
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 9: twenty sixteen or twenty twenty, and Charlie brought up something

1001
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 9: earlier today that was a really funny story. We had

1002
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 9: people that we knocked on their doors. They were the

1003
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 9: biggest Trump fans that you've ever seen in your entire life.

1004
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 9: In fact, there was one story I tell all the time.

1005
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 9: A guy we knocked on his door, he did not

1006
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 9: vote in the last two elections, including twenty twenty. Knock

1007
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 9: on his door and start talking to him. He's like,

1008
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 9: what do you do for work? And our person said, oh,

1009
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 9: I work for turning point.

1010
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: They're like, wait a minute. They closed, slam the.

1011
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 9: Door, run around to their garage, open up their garage,

1012
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 9: open their garage, and it's like, oh, a shrine to Trump.

1013
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 9: Every Trump flag that you can possibly have. And on

1014
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 9: top of that turning point because in twenty twenty and

1015
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 9: twenty twenty two, the Republican Party ran out of yard

1016
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 9: signs for Trump, so we started producing our own. We

1017
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 9: produced tens of thousands of yard signs key target states

1018
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 9: and gave them out. This gentleman had every single turning

1019
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 9: point action yard side for Trump, did not vote in

1020
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 9: that election, did not vote in elections, And Charlie the

1021
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 9: number one thing that we asked people. We assumed that

1022
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 9: when we talk to people, their number one reason for

1023
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 9: not voting was they just didn't care about voting.

1024
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Not true, it's not true.

1025
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 5: It's not right.

1026
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: The number.

1027
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 9: You don't remember what they every thing now, they didn't

1028
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 9: know how, or they thought they already did.

1029
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: Well, that's the other thing, right, They said, like, I

1030
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: voted for Trump in the primary two years ago.

1031
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: Doesn't that count?

1032
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 5: Can't they just like grandfathered.

1033
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 9: In this guy who did not This guy who did

1034
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 9: not vote had voted sporadically in primaries. He had voted

1035
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 9: sporadically in other mid term elections or not less important

1036
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 9: elections like like city council stuff that's off the grid

1037
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 9: and stuff like that.

1038
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: So he was kind of in and out, but missed

1039
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: the presidential the big.

1040
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: One, because he had missed the carry like election

1041
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: And he swore up and down he had voted