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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Grid Episode three point fifty two.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Driving the Grid is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Boose Mobile A ton to do today. It

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Speaker 1: is officially, at least for my purposes, football season, there

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Speaker 1: is no real NBA news. This is the one kind

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Speaker 1: of quiet time of the NBA calendar, which you know

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Speaker 1: is here because people are like, yeah, we want to

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Speaker 1: throw out there the Lebron James Hgh stuff and just

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Speaker 1: see if we get some level of engagement reaction Like

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Speaker 1: that means there's no real NBA news. The only NBA

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Speaker 1: news is supposedly Luca's Slovenian coach said Luca's signing an

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Speaker 1: extension with the Lakers and had the contract details on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I can trust that translation with

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Speaker 1: its football season from here, if July and July means

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Speaker 1: it's vacation and football season, those are the two seasons

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Speaker 1: it is. And it's also one hundred best podcasts of

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Speaker 1: all time season. More on that in a moment, but

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Speaker 1: my takeaway was Deman' say you need to do more.

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Speaker 1: One speaking of that, straight to voicemail, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by our friends at Boost Mobile Time releases one hundred

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Speaker 1: best Podcasts of all Time. More on that. In a second,

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs sat down a little baby rescue puppy and

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Speaker 1: then almost couldn't catch the puppy. I was worried, Stephan

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Speaker 1: And the Browns unveiled a new helmet. We're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a video for our YouTube audience. One of the videographers

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Speaker 1: falls off the little boat where they're unveiling it. I

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Speaker 1: think it is fifty to fifty whether he actually fell

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Speaker 2: Look for it.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I also think it's possible. They're like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: here's what we need to do today. We need to

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Speaker 1: make sure this goes viral. You need to fall in

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Speaker 1: the water. All right, let's get in to the top

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Speaker 1: one hundred podcasts quickly. Because I'm I'm joking about us

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Speaker 1: being snubbed. I am not joking about two kind of

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Speaker 1: indefensible snubs. And now, obviously there has been reporting and

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Speaker 1: it's been announced that Fox Sports, my primary employer, is

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Speaker 1: partnering with Barstool Sports. I haven't really commented much on that.

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Speaker 1: It's not really my business and It's also I think

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Speaker 1: whenever there's new shows, it means, you know, shows that

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Speaker 1: and so it's a you know, it's always a weird spot.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're excited for what something can be that

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Speaker 1: all of that. I am only even acknowledging it now

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Speaker 1: because I think people might be like, oh, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Fox says the old barstool and

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Speaker 1: Nick is gonna talk up pardon my take. That's not

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Speaker 1: what's happening here. I'm just going to be totally fair, honest,

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Speaker 1: and I think accurate here. Doing the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: podcasts of all time, having sports podcasts on there and

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Speaker 1: not having pardon my take on there means invalidates the list.

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Speaker 1: You want to do the ten best podcasts of all time,

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Speaker 1: then give it to Bill Simmons and then keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: So be it. You're gonna have one hundred podcasts on

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Speaker 1: It means your list is not to be taken seriously

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Speaker 1: and then and again because I must just be fair

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Speaker 1: these episodes, I am you know, you get me in

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Speaker 1: positive or negative on the Republic as a whole, this

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Speaker 1: podcast existing, what do you think? I'd probably have some

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Speaker 1: spicy takes With all that said, Joe Rogan's podcast not

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Speaker 1: making the top hundred podcasts ever when it's maybe the

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Speaker 1: people think your list is just And it's Time Magazine.

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Speaker 1: I know Time Magazine isn't what it once was, but

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Speaker 1: the brand is still strong. It's still Time Magazine and not.

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Speaker 1: It would be as if you did the top hundred

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Speaker 1: And by the way, credit to him because it is

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Speaker 1: What do I call Pablo rival? My sworn rival. No,

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Speaker 1: of the NFLPA and it feels like his his podcast

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Speaker 1: got in right under the wire. Good for them, seriously,

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's sincerely. And if you want to

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of glad it's those two shows I'm

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Speaker 1: I've been on multiple times. I like both those guys

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Speaker 1: But my opinion, I still if I were to list

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Speaker 1: sports example of this? I said Wilt before. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: All right, we have semi breaking news that is actually

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Speaker 2: Day, So as we know camp's been going on for

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Speaker 1: I am saying this. NFL beat writers, we need precise language.

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Speaker 1: We need to delineate between being carted off and writing

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Speaker 1: Twenty he cut his hair, but also twenty eighteen, lost

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Speaker 1: will be dialed I think the Chiefs getting Josh Simmons

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Speaker 1: of felt weird to be like, let's change it up significantly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean, you know, I to be clear,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so yeah, I agree, and so they

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Speaker 1: Nobody thinks when you say carted off, Nobody thinks you

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Speaker 1: All right, demanse, Let's go to the team that beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the Super Bowl the Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Eagles here, guys, So Sirianni does not want to think

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Speaker 2: of this year as going for a repeat. Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: is also focus on the present. He won't even wear

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Speaker 2: his Super Bowl ring. He's saying that moment is behind us.

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Speaker 1: On real quick, before we get to the other thing.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on Jalen Hurts? Not him refusing to

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Speaker 1: put on the Super Bowl r He.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Dan O's or something in that in that quote.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but yeah, I mean he's put it on,

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Speaker 2: he's warned.

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Speaker 1: He says he hasn't.

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Speaker 2: He's he's warned. I mean, that's definitely he's put the

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Speaker 2: ring off.

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Speaker 1: He's saying he hasn't.

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Speaker 2: Why not it's not I don't know, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 2: not wear it out, but like I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course, but like put it on once,

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Speaker 1: press a little, but until the stupid wings come out,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, like whatever, all right, keep going.

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Speaker 2: So he is now in a one sided debate with

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton. What's what's your take on this whole?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when I say one sided, I mean he

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Speaker 1: hasn't chimed in, but Cam Cam has. So this is

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Speaker 1: kind of the back and forth of it and full

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Speaker 1: disco again. I really like Cam. Cam was one of

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Speaker 1: my me Betting on Cam was pre What's Right Show

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Speaker 1: betting on the Jags, where I just couldn't Every week

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what line I like, I

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Speaker 1: think the Panthers are underrated or undervalue. I also think

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Speaker 1: Cam had the single greatest college season of all time,

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Speaker 1: and I think that fifteen and one year in the

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Speaker 1: Pros was one of the greatest individual accomplishments any players

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Speaker 1: ever had given his supporting cast. So Cam didn't have

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Speaker 1: Jalen In's top ten quarterbacks and then people got mad

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Speaker 1: at them and Cam, you know, it's it's the old

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Speaker 1: It's another version of the Charles Barkley or a bus

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Speaker 1: driver or bus rider discussion is what we're having here.

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Speaker 1: And I do these two players, Cam Newton versus Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts debate fascinating just because it really reveals a lot

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Speaker 1: about what you value, because I don't think there is

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Speaker 1: definitively Demond's a wrong answer, right. But and what I

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Speaker 1: think is interesting is I am certain to my core

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Speaker 1: that Jalen Hurts could not have gotten that Panther's team

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Speaker 1: to fifteen wins in the Super Bowl. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's unfair. I don't think that is me taking a shot.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's ten quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks in NFL

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Speaker 1: history that necessarily could have gotten that Panthers team to

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Speaker 1: have that season. With that said, I also am not

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Speaker 1: sure that Cam could have had this sustained success that

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Speaker 1: Jalen has had with the Eagles. And so obviously these

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Speaker 1: are all hypotheticals.

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Speaker 2: Similar players like. I mean, I feel like Cam Newton

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Speaker 2: is a little bit more of a of an athletic

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Speaker 2: freak than Yes, then Jalen hurts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's just so huge and he was

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Speaker 1: faster now Jalen has. Cam didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: years of high level passing numbers, but neither does Jalen. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting. I also think I mean, again, the

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Speaker 1: year they went fifteen and one, his receivers were Ted

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Speaker 1: Gin Jericho Contrary, Devin Funtius and Corey Brown. Any won

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Speaker 1: league MVP, and obviously Greg Olsen was an awesome tight end,

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Speaker 1: but that you know, his receiving corps. I I think

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Speaker 1: Cam looks at it as man put me on that

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Speaker 1: type of team and we're the greatest team ever. And

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Speaker 1: I understand that line of thinking. Again, Jalen's not commenting

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Speaker 1: on this, but if I were Jalen, I would be like, well,

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Speaker 1: I was on that team, and we were pretty good.

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Speaker 1: We won the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 1: like one hundred to forty. We we won thirteen games

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Speaker 1: in a row to finish the year, if you exclude

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Speaker 1: the game that I got hurt, Like, what what more

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Speaker 1: do you did you want from us? From a team perspective?

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Speaker 1: And so I understand now I do do I think

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Speaker 1: that there has been a weird media I don't know

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Speaker 1: if over correction is the right word there. There has

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Speaker 1: been to me a there's been some patronizing, almost as

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Speaker 1: the word I would use in the discussion of Jalen.

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Speaker 1: So like I saw Orlovsky's video about Jalen Hurts. Now

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Speaker 1: Orlovsky's video, he is not calling Jalen Hurts the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in football, to be clear, but his caption of it,

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Speaker 1: and this isn't like a newspaper where you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't write your own headlines. His' let me see if

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Speaker 1: I can find this ad on the and and I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to find sorry, I just clicked on it, And

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Speaker 1: do you guys still have my audio? Am I still

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Speaker 1: good that I just clicked on something? Okay? Good? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Let me find the exact caption, because it was he

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Speaker 1: wasn't calling him the best quarterback in football, and but

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Speaker 1: the caption was really, don't care where you rank Hurts.

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Speaker 1: He sits at one. So if somebody was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: are you saying he's the best quarterback in football? Like that? Again,

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Speaker 1: if you watch the video, he's not saying that. But

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Speaker 1: there is to me a there has been an interesting, uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the right word, an interesting shift in how we

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Speaker 1: have talked about quarterbacks the last decade or so when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Jalen specifically, which is usually if people

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Speaker 1: think quarterbacks good, the team is amazing, then we lead

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Speaker 1: with the team as the driving force. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I think Cam is getting at. I think with Jalen there,

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Speaker 1: and I think understandably it's because some of his best

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Speaker 1: games ever have been these monster Super Bowl performances. There

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Speaker 1: has been a reclassification of well, maybe Jalen is way

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Speaker 1: better than his numbers suggest, and he simply is kind

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Speaker 1: of suppressing his own individual Accola aids four team success,

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Speaker 1: which I understand that line of thinking, but it does

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Speaker 1: kind of contradict his own teammate from the end of

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Speaker 1: last year. It's like, hey, we gotta get better in

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Speaker 1: the passing game, and it kind of goes against what

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Speaker 1: we saw when the Eagles were unbelievable in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: the one dip twenty twenty three was a year that

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Speaker 1: they really tried to open up the passing game more.

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Speaker 1: And so it is this is one of the fun

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Speaker 1: things to me about kind of sports debate, is this

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Speaker 1: isn't really defied, like it's not provable, at least in

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Speaker 1: the short term. And here and now, we don't know

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Speaker 1: what Jalen would look like if he played for the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Panthers, and we don't know what Cam would

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Speaker 1: look like if he had played for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four Eagles. I do think that there is an element

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Speaker 1: of even for a lot of Jalen's biggest supporters. If

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Speaker 1: you were just asking, be like, hey, who's the better quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton or Jalen Hurts, I think most people are like, well,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton and if the question is why or what's

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Speaker 1: your evidence? I honestly think the answer is he's just better.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes, like I know, that can feel like a

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Speaker 1: cop out, but it does feel real here and where

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Speaker 1: I will, and I know it might sound like I

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Speaker 1: don't know I should. I don't usually go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to the pods, but I might go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to this segment because there's a possibility I'm not

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Speaker 1: making a lot of sense, but I am. I uh,

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Speaker 1: I find this Tommish fascinating because it is to me

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Speaker 1: layered and nuanced, because, like I said, if you asked

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Speaker 1: me who was better Cam or Jalen, my snap answer

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Speaker 1: is like, obviously it's Cam. But with that said, if

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Speaker 1: you asked me, am I certain that Cam would be

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Speaker 1: better for this Eagles team, I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: would say yes. I think when you have a team

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Speaker 1: as stacked as the current Eagles, having a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem that focused on his individual accolades or success

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Speaker 1: could really play in your favor. And I think Jalen

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Speaker 1: deserves it's a huge credit.

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Speaker 2: For that push man. I don't sorry, well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably a bad example because

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Speaker 1: Cam Cam was arguably the greatest short yardage player in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. Now what they wouldn't do a toush push.

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Speaker 1: They just did regular jump jump over the line or

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Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, you know what I mean. So it was

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Speaker 1: it was different. But I I am really interested because

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Speaker 1: one day in Jalen's career, he's not going you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have Saquon Ajdavante. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: have this amazing supporting cast. And there will be a

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Speaker 1: time where the Eagles are in a position where it's like, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: our defense isn't you know what we had hoped. We

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Speaker 1: don't have this great running game. If we're gonna win,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to do it, you know, the

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Speaker 1: old school quarterback style, drop back thirty sometimes and throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. I think there's real question, like there is

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Speaker 1: a real question over whether or not he can do that,

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Speaker 1: and so we This is my ultimate endpoint on this,

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Speaker 1: and I am definitely at times guilty of this, which

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Speaker 1: is why probably I'm a little circular in my reasoning here.

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Speaker 1: We give guys a ton of credit for doing more

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Speaker 1: with less. The lebron dragging the seven Calves to the finals,

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Speaker 1: you know that type of thing like, look at you,

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Speaker 1: you had so little help, look at what you did.

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Speaker 1: We don't always do a good enough job of recognizing

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Speaker 1: just because you can do more with less doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you can do the most with a ton. And Jalen

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Speaker 1: has proven he can do the most with this great situation,

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Speaker 1: and not everybody can do that, And so, and this

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Speaker 1: is something I'd be interested at some point in talking

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Speaker 1: to Cam about. I also really screwed up because Cam,

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Speaker 1: I hope he wouldn't get mad at me saying this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would. Cam reached out to me

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Speaker 1: a couple months ago about him and I doing something together.

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Speaker 1: Did I tell you this? Demanse is a very funny story.

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Speaker 1: So Cam and I briefly linked at the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: just like walking past each other. I walked over and

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Speaker 1: introduced myself. He knew me, and then said something incredibly

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Speaker 1: kind to me, like oka like shockingly kind about kind

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Speaker 1: of the way I broadcast and formulate arguments and about

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Speaker 1: his broadcasting. I don't want to share of that, but

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Speaker 1: it was. It was disarmingly kind, right. And then a

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Speaker 1: few months later he reached out to me. And what

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Speaker 1: I will say is Cam texts in that same Fontee

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Speaker 1: instagrams that like wing things weird font, Like if you

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Speaker 1: ever see the Cam instagram, it's like all the letters

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Speaker 1: are weird. He texts in that font, which can be

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Speaker 1: like I didn't have his number, but I saw the

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Speaker 1: text and I was like, this has to be Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: Then I confirmed it was Cam Newton, that he wanted

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Speaker 1: he and I to do something together, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: one hundred would love to. Like he's in Atlanta hard,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard for me to get down to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: but I thought I might be down Atlanta for Baseball

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Speaker 1: All Star. It's like absolutely. So there's two funny elements

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Speaker 1: of this story. First one is he's like, all right, great,

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Speaker 1: who does your scheduling? I'll have my person reach out

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Speaker 1: and we can set something up. I was like, Cam,

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Speaker 1: you're talking to the person who does my scheduling. I

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Speaker 1: am not quite as fancy as you, buddy, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have a scheduler one day

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Speaker 1: maybe but the person but uh but yeah, demons, look

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Speaker 1: in the doc real quick and look at Cam's Instagram

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Speaker 1: caption with Kevin Hart. See the wow. Yeah, so so

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00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: he so this is really and so this is embarrassing.

643
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, let's I was like,

644
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: let's just talk. Uh. I don't know. I think I

645
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: said Saturday afternoon or whatever it was. It's like, all right, cool.

646
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: And about twenty minutes before we were supposed to talk

647
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: is when I got that car wreck and I text

648
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: him and I was like, hey, man, I just wrecked

649
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: my car. I sakers in the car, my dog's in

650
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: the car. That I was like, I can't. I was like,

651
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: let me, you know, let's let me hit you back.

652
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, no problem. And I have.

653
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean, but I will still.

654
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I will if anybody, if anybody, if anybody's watching this, uh,

655
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: send this to camp, tell him I apologize. It's a

656
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: bad job by me. All right, let's go. Uh, let's

657
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: go to the Dolphins for a minute.

658
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Tua isn't exactly welcoming Tyreek back with open arms. After

659
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Tyreek did that little thing at the end of twenty

660
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty four, Terreek took some accountability and saying I need

661
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: to be better as a leader. I feel like he

662
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: probably should have said as a star player. But with

663
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: things already off to a bad start. How do you

664
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: see miamis season going.

665
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I want to believe in Miami a little bit. I

666
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: think that they are. You know, I like the team

667
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: that used to be overvalued that now I think people

668
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: have gone too far in the other direction on I

669
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: tend to like those teams and Miami. I really like

670
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: the Jalen Ramsey, Minka Fitzpatrick trade. I think they got

671
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: better there, Tyreek, I think will be better this year.

672
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: So there, and I think that that last playoff spot

673
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: in the AFC should be pretty open. So there are

674
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: some reasons that I kind of was leaning. You know,

675
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'll believe in the Dolphins as a playoff

676
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: team this year, especially because speaking of the hot seats,

677
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Mike McDaniel, the GM, I think

678
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: they know we got to start putting some pelts on

679
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: the wall, you know what I mean. We got to

680
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: get back on the right track. This is where you

681
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: might think I'm being unfair. So Toua's comments yesterday were basically, yeah,

682
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: they speaking for me and for the team. He wasn't

683
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: speaking for himself. He's like, you know, Tyreek, what Tyrek

684
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: did is not something that you just say my bad

685
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: about and you know we're all good like you gotta

686
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, work on yourself. You gotta earn back. Trust

687
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but he said all this publicly to the media.

688
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: So here's where I mean the exact quote is, when

689
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: you say something like that, you don't just come back

690
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: with my bad. You gotta work that relationship up. He's

691
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: working on himself. I didn't love that being a public

692
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: comment from Tua. So here's what I'll say, and demon's

693
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: that you can tell me no, That's why I thought

694
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: you were gonna say I'm being unfair, So just hear

695
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: me out on this. Okay. What Tyreek did was way

696
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: out of line. There is no excusing it. He was

697
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: a bad teammate, he was immature, it was you know,

698
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: it was bad. He's also Tyreek Hill. He's he's cut,

699
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's a receiver. He's a kind of

700
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: known at times knucklehead. He he has he he you know,

701
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: just this week, he was like, you know, I talked

702
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: with my dad, and you know, I thought it was

703
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: really important that this offseason I just do football and

704
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: family stuff. Meanwhile, you know, I'm pretty sure he's in

705
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: a legitimate beef with I show speed and like about

706
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: the racing and like, so Tyreek is just a superstar,

707
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: which dude, Yeah, like a bit of a dufis, a

708
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: bit of a dufis and got a lot of stuff. Okay,

709
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: it does not excuse what he said, but we're also

710
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you're not getting in the Tyreek Kill

711
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: business for maturity, professionalism, and leadership. You're getting in the

712
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill business because he's freaking awesome. Right, Tua is

713
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: your quarterback, and Tua and Tyreek have to work for

714
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: the team to work. So I wouldn't care at all

715
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: if at the first day of training camp, Tua got

716
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: up in front of the team and was like, Tyreek,

717
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: you betrayed all of us. You have a lot of

718
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, making up to do. That was you know,

719
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: red him the Riot act privately, but publicly, I think

720
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: the answer has to be either, uh yeah, listen, I

721
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: think Tyreek's addressed that any feelings I have on that

722
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep between me and Tyreek and me and

723
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the team. But you know, we know that he and

724
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I got to get back to what we were two

725
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: years ago for this team to have a chance. And

726
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: I believe we're gonna do that. You either do that

727
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: or and to it might not be comfortable with this

728
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: because I know he's like a deeply religious guy. You

729
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: just flat lie. Oh no, Tyreek, Tyreek, We're all good.

730
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: We knew it was emotional right after the season. Nobody cared.

731
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: I think those are your two best options rather than

732
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: telling the media. No. Everyone was really bothered by that,

733
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: and actually it we're still working on it because then

734
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: it continues like I'm gonna need an update on that,

735
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so again, Tyreek to

736
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: in a terrible position.

737
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: And throughout that like it seemed like he he seemed

738
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: pretty nervous, I don't want to say nervous, but constantly

739
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: walking back stuff and like thinking super hard about the stuff.

740
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: He was saying, Oh, you're talking about Tyreek at the

741
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: interview year.

742
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about two in the in the pressor.

743
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean I felt like he was sweaty.

744
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, I mean he was Miami right off

745
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: practice field. But yes, I agree, I agree with you

746
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: on that regard. But I also thought Tyreek when he

747
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: gave this initial thing right after the playoffass didn't exactly

748
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: know what he was trying to say, and then was like, ah,

749
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm out. I just think that there is sometimes when

750
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: you are the face of an organization and you get

751
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: put in bad spots by people and publicly, you got

752
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: to just present a united front. That's the you know,

753
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: That's all that I'm or you can go Peyton Manning

754
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: about was it Mike vander jack the kicker? So this

755
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: you'll love this demonse because you have no recollection of

756
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: this whatsoever. Mike Vanderjat, who's a pretty good kicker for

757
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Aughts, went on some radio show

758
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: after another Colts playoff loss and took shots at Peyton

759
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: the kicker, and then yeah, the kicker. And then Peyton

760
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: was asked about it at the Pro Bowl, like during

761
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: a sideline interview, and Peyton's like, yeah, I mean, I

762
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: really didn't expect that I was gonna get asked about

763
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: our idiot kicker getting all liquored up and popping off

764
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: at the mouth on the radio. I'll deal with that

765
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: if he's still a teammate in the future, Like this

766
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: guy's gone, this guy's gone, I'm not dealing with him.

767
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: I have no interest in him. And so that that's

768
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: the other that's the other option. The other option is

769
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: if Tua would have been like, yeah, I don't think

770
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem because I don't think Tyryk's

771
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team. Like that's the nuclear option.

772
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: But so but if he's going to be on the team,

773
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: then you gotta you gotta sometimes clean up somebody else's mess.

774
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: That's the only even if it's not fair that.

775
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: Titled with the first topic, it sounds like the Chiefs

776
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill kind of miss each other.

777
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, I told you I I told you guys a

778
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: year ago that I'm very excited for Tyreek Hill wearing

779
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: a Chiefs uniform in twenty twenty six because that's I

780
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: think going to happen. It's not gonna happen this year,

781
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: but that I think is going to happen. So you're

782
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: pretty likely maybe that's enough to get Kelsey to come

783
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: back for one more year. A little final tie Rea

784
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: bring band right often the sunset together. Yeah, I think

785
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,480
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Speaker 1: let's jump to the Cowboys and Micah. Actually, no, we're

803
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Speaker 1: gonna do the Von Miller Jayden Daniels thing. Let's do

804
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: that here, the thing we were supposed to do here.

805
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: We're just gonna have to go fast through these because

806
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: I actually have a meeting with our Blue Duck boss,

807
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: Gabe good One. He's in New York City. Oh yes, sir,

808
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: see I'm seeing Gabe for the first time in a while,

809
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,640
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810
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So Commander's new edition. Von Miller was singing some

811
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: high praises to his new quarterback, Jade and Daniels. We're

812
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: gonna get out of the Coote war here, he said, you

813
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: can't leave Josh Allen to just go anywhere. Josh Allen

814
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: was MVP of the league last year. I feel like

815
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels has MVP potential as well. My question to

816
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: you is what's more likely for Jaden a sophomore slump

817
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: or an MVP caliber season.

818
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is unfair my my strut.

819
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: The more likely is a bit of a sophomore slump.

820
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm I mean that more likely is similar to what

821
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: CJ went through last year, where you have this unbelievable

822
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: rookie year. Some people are like, You're gonna go win

823
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: league MVP and instead you kind of taper or maybe

824
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: slightly regressed, but people still feel great about you. That's

825
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: more likely now. Listen, Mahomes won MVP a second year

826
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: as a starter. Lamar one MVP his second years. No,

827
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes won MVP his first year as a starter second

828
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: year in the league. Lamar won MVP his first year,

829
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: starting all you know, the full season. Burrow went to

830
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a second year as a starter. Russell

831
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Wilson won the Super Bowl second year as a starter,

832
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: you know. So it certainly can be done. But I

833
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: think Washington Washington had too many unbelievable wins last year

834
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: for me to think they're gonna be quite as good

835
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: this year. There were too many. A part of what

836
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: made Jaden great last year was how how amazing he

837
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: was in the clutch and how great they were in

838
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: those close games, you know, not just the Hail Mary,

839
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: other stuff, and usually that corrects a bit. I also

840
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: worry about their defensive fair amount, and the McLaurin hold

841
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: out for the time being is concerning. So it wouldn't be.

842
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: It's not like it's off the board that Jaden wins

843
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: League MVP, but I would I wouldn't have him. I

844
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: think it's more likely that he's slightly worse than he

845
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: was last year than it is that he's better.

846
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: I mean, because he's better super Bowl, well.

847
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: The team is super Bowl, but better for you know,

848
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: MVP can just be if they win twelve games and

849
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: you know he puts up these crazy numbers. Yeah, the

850
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: I obviously, I think Mahomes this is a great bet

851
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: for MVP. I I don't know. I mean, Mahomes at

852
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: seven to one feels like you should just bet that

853
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: every year. I mean, that's what cousin Sal talks about,

854
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: and he's right, like, if you just bet Mahomes when

855
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: he at seven to one every year, he's gonna win

856
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: more than one and seven. I wonder is there like

857
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: a dark horse MVP that I think is realistic. Baker's

858
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: not a bad one. Baker twenty five to one, Thanks

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: for our friends at DraftKings. Baker. When I think the

860
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: Bucks could be good, Baker at twenty five to one

861
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: is not a bad one. I don't think Herbert's gonna

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00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: have the numbers, uh. I don't think the Bengals are

863
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna be good enough. Josh and Lamar obvious, I don't

864
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: think the Bears are gonn be You really got to

865
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: win like twelve games. I don't know that. I I'd

866
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: love to pick Caleb, but I think that's probably a

867
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: bridge too far. Kah, Josh and Lamar are good bets

868
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: every year. Where's my sa?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little crazy. They did just say Stafford,

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: I think he's like twenty five to one or something

871
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: like that.

872
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: Thirty five to one, thirtyty five to one. That I

873
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: like that one. What's crazy?

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00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: Well, you were like Caleb Williams first year in the NFL.

875
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: You're like, he's going to go to the super Bowl

876
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: his second year. MVP is a bridge too far?

877
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: I think, Well, first of all, it's two different things,

878
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, individual success, and then is it one of

879
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: them harder? Well, yes, and no. Here's the thing I my.

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, I had a lot of misses related to

881
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: the Bears last year, but the one that didn't get

882
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: any attention was I drastically overrated their defense and they

883
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: didn't spend resources getting the defense better this year. And

884
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: so because of that, I just think it's gonna be

885
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: hard for them to have, you know, a gaudy record

886
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: this year, even if Caleb is excellent. I so, I

887
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: do think Caleb will one day win a league MVP.

888
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, he wouldn't be my bet

889
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: this year. Stafford at thirty five to one is a

890
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: fun one. I think that's pretty fair value. All right,

891
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: let's go to Micah and the Cowboys.

892
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: So Micah showed up to camp without a new deal,

893
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: but he's still practicing. What a solid guy man. But

894
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: Tray Hendrickson is in Florida while he waits to get

895
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: his deal finalized or an extension. So last year we

896
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: saw Brad and Ayuk hold in and we saw that win.

897
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: What do you think the best way to go about

898
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: this these types of situations is.

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00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: I think hold In is probably the smartest. And I

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01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know that Micah is doing that because Mike is practicing,

901
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: but he had back back tightness, you know. I think

902
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: he's kind of taking it day by day. The new

903
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 1: CBA rules with the fifty thousand dollars a day fine

904
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: is just brutal. I think personally, I think Micah is

905
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: handling this really really well. Yeah, I think Jerry is

906
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: handling it, I think poorly. I think Micah had whoever's

907
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: giving Micah advice on the messaging and how he's doing this,

908
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: and like, I'm here for my teammates, I want to

909
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Speaker 1: be a leader. All this stuff. I think it's really smart,

910
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: and I think some of the way the Cowboys you know,

911
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: have done this is just so silly. They're obviously like

912
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: we all know TJ. Watt just got one hundred and

913
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Speaker 1: eight million guaranteed forty one million a year. So Micah

914
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: is going to get one hundred and ten million garant

915
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: and forty two million a year. We all know it.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that there have been more than a

917
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: dozen guys from Micah's draft class to get contract extensions

918
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Speaker 1: and he's not one of them is just mortifying. Here's

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: the other thing for the Cowboys that I just think

920
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: is indicative. And I tried to explain this on TV yesterday,

921
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: but I did a kind of ham fisted job about it.

922
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Speaker 1: And it's the way the hold on your mom just

923
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 1: walked in here, what's up? Ed Okay, well, okay, I'll

924
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: see it. I love you baby. The he let Deanna

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01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: come in one time to say goodbye to camp, but

926
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: now your mom is just like just peering in. Um

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: but uh um. So I tried to explain this on

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday and I didn't do a very good

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Speaker 1: job of it. So Trayvon Diggs, the Cowboys just clawed

930
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: back half a million dollars from him for not working

931
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: out with the team enough in the offseason, and he's

932
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: upset about it and It's truly just a matter of perspective.

933
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: So the way most contracts work demanse. Let's just say

934
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: you make you know ANFL player, you make ten million

935
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: dollars a year they might put in, and you get

936
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Speaker 1: an extra five hundred thousand dollars if you complete the

937
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: full off season workout program, like Lamar has given up

938
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Speaker 1: nearly a million dollars in workout bonuses because he's not

939
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: doing like the full off season over the last few

940
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: years with Baltimore. So that's so most teams pay you

941
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: a ten million, give you an extra five hundred thousand

942
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: for working out. The Cowboys structure these as we're paying

943
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: you ten point five million, but if you don't work out,

944
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: we're taking the five hundred thousand back. Those are effectively

945
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: demands identical results. I work out all off season with you,

946
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: I get ten and a half million. I don't work

947
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: out all off season with you, I get ten million.

948
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: But they psychologically feel differently. Do you understand what I

949
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: mean as opposed to I am opting against earning this

950
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: bonus rather than your taking from me. And so Trayvon's

951
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: pissed and this is like an all This isn't just

952
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: conjecture that psychologically it lands differently. It's proven like there's

953
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the This is one of the things

954
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: I think I screwed up on the TV show yesterday.

955
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: But this is a real proven study, which is if

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: you walk up to someone on the street, demonse, and

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: you hand them fifty dollars and then and say that's yours,

958
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: and then say but if you want you hand it

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: to them they put in their pocket. Would you like

960
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: to flip a coin for fifty dollars meaning you get

961
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: it right now, you get one hundred, you get it wrong,

962
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: you gotta give me that back. The vast majority of

963
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: people say no, no, no, no, I'll take the fifthy

964
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: you just gave me. But if you walk up to

965
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: people on the street and say, hey, what would you

966
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: rather do right now? Flip a coin and if you win,

967
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: I give you one hundred bucks or I'll just give

968
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: you fifty dollars, the vast majority of people will flip

969
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: the coin. Even though those are identical things. Yeah, because

970
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: a weird thing happens once it's in your pocket, you

971
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: know what I So, even though those are the exact

972
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: same offer, just the sequence of when you get the

973
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: money changes how you view it and the Cowboys that's,

974
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, what they screwed up with Trayvon. All right,

975
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other stuff that we go ahead.

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01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, no, go ahead. It was a small D two.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say. There's a lot of other stuff

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01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: we were going to get to today, including whether or

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: not cam Ward is the least talked about number one

980
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: overall pick ever. And my answer that question is yes,

981
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: because we're actually going to skip that topic as well.

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Speaker 1: Cole Swider. So this is is this in part because

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Speaker 1: he's spent a year at Syracuse, sure, but it's also

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: a very interesting story. He's undrafted in twenty twenty two,

994
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: and here's what he's done. Played for the Lakers, then

995
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,360
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Speaker 1: Those are their G League teams. Then played for the

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Speaker 1: South Bay Lakers again, then played for the Raptors. This

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Speaker 1: summer was on the Lakers Summer League team. And what

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01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,480
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1002
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: four threes, two threes, two threes for a total of

1003
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: eighteen threes this year at Summer League. He's the all

1004
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: time Summer League leader in three pointers. And I just

1005
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: wonder if there might be a bad team somewhere that's like,

1006
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: you know what, let's give this twenty six year old

1007
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: six foot eight inch three point shooter or a try

1008
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: and see if he can turn into something. Uh. He

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: obviously has gotten a bunch of tries, as evidence by

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01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: the fact that he was undrafted four years ago and

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01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: is still bouncing around. He has played a grand total

1012
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Speaker 1: in his career of thirty five NBA games across three years.

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Speaker 1: But I.

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Speaker 2: It's dedication.

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: It's dedication. He just wants, you know, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to go to Europe, Like a lot of those

1017
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Speaker 1: guys would just be like, all right, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: be playing Europe. He wants to make the NBA. I

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Speaker 1: thought he handled himself well in Summer League, and size

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Speaker 1: and shooting are at such a premium. Maybe he gets

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: a shot somewhere. I don't think it'll be with the Lakers,

1022
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,000
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Speaker 1: you do that. Couple quick NBA or questions from the

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Speaker 1: audience to a before we move.

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Speaker 2: On, Edwards says, simple thought, if the Eagles could win

1028
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: by throwing the ball, they will win by throwing the ball.

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't Here's the thing. I understand that argument, but

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: they it's not like they struggled last year winning so

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: I would agree with you if they were. You know,

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: they had one of the greatest running seasons in the

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: history of the league last year. So it's just kind

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: of an unfair in my opinion, way to look at it.

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I I my gut says

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: they are limited throwing the ball, but it's just not

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: fair to kill him for it because they won the

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl doing and it's not like they won the

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirteen to ten. They were the offense was

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: absolutely annihilating people. All right.

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Speaker 2: Next, just Man's ass. Do you think he'll could get

1043
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 2: traded at the deadline of Miami is bad? He's excited

1044
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: about it too.

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely but possible. Cap wise, they could

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Speaker 1: trade him and it doesn't kill him. So I think

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: it is unlikely, but it is possible. Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the other two ones quickly.

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: U Scott says what rookie quarterback is the best this season?

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Speaker 2: And does JJ count?

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: I would count JJ because he missed the entirety of

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Speaker 1: last year, and JJ would be my pick, Like you

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I would think JJ will have

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: the best rookie season of it. But I didn't love

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01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: this rookie quarterback class. But I think JJ will have

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: the best year, all right.

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Speaker 2: Last Cameron asked Nick, if Gino Smith is as good

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Speaker 2: as you think he is, then why did Seattle get

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 2: rid of him? Is John Schneider just a moron?

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Speaker 1: I don't think John Schneider is a moron, but I

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: think Seattle got worse at quarterback. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: Samnold's better than Geno Smith. I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: big mistake. They made this offseason flat like all right,

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Speaker 1: Volume to Blue Duck, to everyone involved. I will see

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Speaker 1: you guys on Tuesday. What's right?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: See you guys. Bye,