Speaker 1: R and B money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: Thanks, take out the child. We are the authority on.
Speaker 3: R and D.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank and this tell
Speaker 1: him what it is. Ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, hold on, yeah, motherfuckers, Oh, motherfucking yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do long intro. Do you know why? Why?
Speaker 1: Because the people have been asking, not asking for two interview,
Speaker 1: demanding interviews, two interviews. One was Jesus and the other
Speaker 1: one christ Yeah. Yeah, yeah, ship ship, I'm gonna round
Speaker 1: right now, y'all can't funk with us? Go ahead. I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember I remember walking into the studio on your
Speaker 1: second album and you're saying, big brot, I want you
Speaker 1: to get on. I'm like, okay, cool, you know, come
Speaker 1: up there. You know, probably gonna help you, right, help you,
Speaker 1: help you really put the ship together. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that's what I do, help you put
Speaker 1: your ship together. You know what I'm saying. I'm on
Speaker 1: a high level. You know, I'm a high level producer,
Speaker 1: writing and singer. You know you probably need me. I'm
Speaker 1: on the way and I get in there and you
Speaker 1: play this song called take My Time, and you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: big brother, got I got I kind of modeled it
Speaker 1: off after Sexual Pain and it's already good. You just
Speaker 1: you just sing your verse, right, this is your verse.
Speaker 1: And I was like, so he doesn't need it, and bro,
Speaker 1: it was like the craziest I'd never seen a learning
Speaker 1: curve that small to where first album it was like
Speaker 1: people were giving you things, yeah, to learn that was
Speaker 1: like school. And by your second album you had already
Speaker 1: figured it out and it was scary to see. I
Speaker 1: was like, where's he gonna be on his third album?
Speaker 1: Where's he gonna be? And now too many years later,
Speaker 1: now it's just records being broken. Now you're just breaking
Speaker 1: your own records, trying to set againness world records and
Speaker 1: it's not even it's not even close, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We like to start to begin. I just
Speaker 1: had to start there because I just I just when
Speaker 1: I felt like I wasn't needed anymore musically, I just
Speaker 1: kind of myself.
Speaker 5: But I called him I was like being broken on
Speaker 5: the record. So it was like I didn't feel the
Speaker 5: record at that time. It would be like me stealing
Speaker 5: a record from you. Like what I'm saying that I
Speaker 5: didn't involve you in the record because I'm like I
Speaker 5: was inspired by your song to do the song. So
Speaker 5: I was like, let me now get on the record
Speaker 5: with me, bro Like, and I can talk. I can
Speaker 5: talk a little bit more adult now on the song
Speaker 5: because I'm older, you know.
Speaker 6: Before I had to learn and be like, oh, I
Speaker 6: can't say that, I can't say this.
Speaker 5: And then by the time, like even working with you
Speaker 5: from Kerry Hillson A Donnis, you know, like working with
Speaker 5: all these different writers, Dre and Medal all them, like
Speaker 5: back in the day, I was fifteen fourteen doing that
Speaker 5: album for my first album.
Speaker 1: Man, that's that was like learning.
Speaker 5: So like I said, I was in school, like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is how you do it. This is how you
Speaker 5: make a song. There's a verse a pre course and
Speaker 5: I didn't know none of that.
Speaker 1: So you learned that over a summer, bro. Man, that's
Speaker 1: what it felt like. That's what it felt like. I
Speaker 1: felt like that, and it took me to the place
Speaker 1: of being where I was the teacher. It took me
Speaker 1: to a place of being reverting back to a student. Damn.
Speaker 1: Like watching him work like that, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: he different. No, we literally and I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if we've ever told you this, but We've
Speaker 2: literally worked with you, got in a car and then
Speaker 2: implement it some of the ship you do.
Speaker 1: Bro, You may look at us like the big brother.
Speaker 2: No, Nigga, we've literally worked with you and been like, nigga,
Speaker 2: did you watch out?
Speaker 1: He and then he did his vocal this way. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like no, we're paying attention.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's sporadic. How how we record? Like I learned
Speaker 5: remember how everybody used to have to record like we
Speaker 5: have to punch.
Speaker 1: No, it was really no punching.
Speaker 5: You had to sing that whole work, right, So once
Speaker 5: technology got faster, I was like, we can still do
Speaker 5: the same amount of effort as far as you remember.
Speaker 5: How how how do my stack? So how's it's it's
Speaker 5: faster to me because it's like in section and I
Speaker 5: can just put them all together and then it looks
Speaker 5: like a painting.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was kind of learning.
Speaker 5: So if y'all, if y'all implemented certain ship, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: y'all was looking at what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I'm stealing. I used to word, it's a great word.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Thank you stealing. I'm at
Speaker 1: the house like Jesus Christ. How we get that. How
Speaker 1: do we get that? I ain't gonna do the dance
Speaker 1: move to go over and slow it down a little bit.
Speaker 1: I ain't make it do that.
Speaker 2: He's here now, Chris is here, So Chris Brown, that's
Speaker 2: Nigga Brown. Just so you know, that's Nigga Brown over there.
Speaker 2: And he always mentions you when he mentions his dance
Speaker 2: move for some.
Speaker 1: Odd reason, because you have to understand, I'm the older
Speaker 1: version of Chris Brown. Since this genuine won't do the dances.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I tell the nigga. The
Speaker 1: nigga first of all, come on, do to the fucking
Speaker 1: pony dance. He won't do the fucking pony dance. So
Speaker 1: it ubsess me. So now I got to pick up
Speaker 1: the mantle. I gotta go back to my freaky days.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Video I'm doing summersaults. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm blowing up fucking buildings. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I got to go back
Speaker 1: to those days just to show people I'm really that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what are you telling you is he was yusie
Speaker 1: for you? No, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is don't don't think I ain't got feet. Y'all got
Speaker 1: I got feet. They don't all work the same. No, Brown,
Speaker 1: the two left feet, it's the left them. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to the beginning then of when when did somebody identify
Speaker 1: that you had something special?
Speaker 5: Or when did you I mean, as you know, like
Speaker 5: I think I was like probably about nine when I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, I actually can sing. I was in
Speaker 5: the choir and I was like oo, they gave me
Speaker 5: the leads and I was like, I'm seeing people like
Speaker 5: yeah baby when I sing church Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, oh,
Speaker 5: I really sound good to these people because you know,
Speaker 5: your family members always hate man, shut up, you don't
Speaker 5: sound like So I really took a series like nine
Speaker 5: to ten, and then my mom was we were in
Speaker 5: Tapper handing, and I was like, look I met these people.
Speaker 5: We just got to drive like an hour and a
Speaker 5: half away, Like you met the people, Yeah, I met him.
Speaker 5: I met the people through through through like one guy.
Speaker 5: I met him through like three different people. So I
Speaker 5: maintained a close relationship with a guy that was around
Speaker 5: my age and we and we always did music, but
Speaker 5: he would he would always dance, so he'll take me
Speaker 5: to like the radio shows, like, look, let's go up
Speaker 5: to the radio station while they doing like they knew
Speaker 5: artist stuff. Let's let's see if we can slide in
Speaker 5: there and we just play our stuff and we just dance.
Speaker 1: So I hung with him, and then he got.
Speaker 5: Noticed by like Troy Taylor's people and a group of
Speaker 5: different different uh like guys that they knew around the
Speaker 5: Virginia area. So from there we started working and then
Speaker 5: I met the people I met in New York and
Speaker 5: so now that was like all in like a three
Speaker 5: to four year process. But it was like as soon
Speaker 5: as I said, Mom, want to do this, it was
Speaker 5: like basketball practice. Okay, drive, I don't know what You're
Speaker 5: in the studio till six in the morning, Drive back nine.
Speaker 1: To eight and what age? And shit ten eleven? Oh man, yeah,
Speaker 1: ten yeah, Mama. Mama.
Speaker 5: Mama was son the vision and she and she made
Speaker 5: sure I still went took my ass to school. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, she was like, all right, if
Speaker 5: you want to do this, you're gonna have to have
Speaker 5: the same discipline and you can't be slacking off on
Speaker 5: certain shit.
Speaker 1: So I got too.
Speaker 5: Much energy as it is, so I was like shit,
Speaker 5: I'm not feeling I'm finna do this.
Speaker 1: Sorry. People writing songs for y'all, like producing songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a group, like what's going on? Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, I was never I was never in a group.
Speaker 5: The only group I was in was with my boy TJ.
Speaker 5: Shout out to TJ.
Speaker 6: Free him.
Speaker 5: Uh but for him, yeah, yeah, yeah he yeah, he'd
Speaker 5: be out in the buy the some time. But back
Speaker 5: in the day, he was the rapper, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I would get on the songs with
Speaker 5: him and just be on the courses like you know,
Speaker 5: do hooks and stuff, and we would write little stuff
Speaker 5: and it really won't like good at the time when
Speaker 5: we was young, but it was for our age.
Speaker 6: It was like exceptional, Like okay.
Speaker 1: Y'all got your potention. Remember he was man my fans,
Speaker 1: my my rap name.
Speaker 5: So he was TJ nice and see sizzle, so you
Speaker 5: was you was a sizzle man. It was I was
Speaker 5: playing basketball, so sizzle was a word you can say.
Speaker 1: Back then, I wouldn't be Hurricane and these.
Speaker 5: He niggas would have never made it the hell out.
Speaker 5: We wouldn't have made it get him out of here.
Speaker 2: I would have been the punk ass executive, y'all come
Speaker 2: sing like, man, if you don't get sizzled and hurricane.
Speaker 1: The funk out of here. Man again, bro, look at
Speaker 1: R and B. Look what R and B is down
Speaker 1: for y'all too? Man, what was the next level up?
Speaker 1: When it was like when was it like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: ship is getting serious or we found a record or
Speaker 1: we found a moment where so when I started, pros
Speaker 1: are starting now.
Speaker 5: So I had my first I think it got serious
Speaker 5: to me when I booked my and this had nothing
Speaker 5: to do with music at the time, but because we
Speaker 5: showcased our musical talent, we booked the job. It was
Speaker 5: for a g unit campaign, right, and so like I
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, fifty.
Speaker 1: C Hes gonna be able to see this. He gonna
Speaker 1: be at the folk at the shoot.
Speaker 5: We can give my demo, we can sing, you know,
Speaker 5: the typical like y'all want to get signs ship. So
Speaker 5: we actually did that audition. They was like, man, you
Speaker 5: kids are phenomenal, and they booked us. Boom, we got there.
Speaker 5: We were backstage with all of them, like, but I
Speaker 5: never really hung with Fifty at that time. He just
Speaker 5: was always respectful, like what's up y'all boom. But we
Speaker 5: was around Lloyd Banks a couple of different guys. But
Speaker 5: we were bad little kids, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We already had weed and ship like, so we was
Speaker 5: like we're trying to smoke our weed on the side.
Speaker 6: They're like, man, what y'all doing? And so like nah,
Speaker 6: we wrapped and we see.
Speaker 5: So we started performing with them and then they was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, man, y'all niggas is dope.
Speaker 6: And then I remember.
Speaker 5: One niggas like man, but we don't know how to
Speaker 5: fuck markt No, damn kids, we some gangsters. So I
Speaker 5: was like, so I was like, damn, Like I understood it.
Speaker 5: But it was just like, Okay, this ship is about
Speaker 5: to be real for us because other artists actually looking
Speaker 5: and that not saying the typical art that's cool, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like real real artists and people.
Speaker 6: Was looking up.
Speaker 1: There was the hottest group at the time, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So like for us, that was like seeing seeing gods,
Speaker 5: like okay, cool, we get to see all our all
Speaker 5: our idols in one and they like our stuff. And
Speaker 5: then from there our demo tapes started going out like
Speaker 5: we had a but I was only how I I
Speaker 5: discovered I had a solo song that I did.
Speaker 6: It's called Who's Girl Is that? You can go look
Speaker 6: at her YouTube.
Speaker 5: I was like, I think I was twelve or thirteen
Speaker 5: when I shot it, So this was yeah, so so,
Speaker 5: but it was like back then, you know, that was that.
Speaker 5: It was like the bootleg videos, you know how man,
Speaker 5: it's got to be two thousand and what three two?
Speaker 1: Might it might have been on DVD? I thought I
Speaker 1: thought it might have been on VHS.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, we had we had it on the debut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: If it was VHS, I would be like, oh you
Speaker 6: heard that the popping up for.
Speaker 1: The video stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But when we did we did the video like it
Speaker 5: wasn't It wasn't really expensive, but you know, because it
Speaker 5: was independent, we was like, okay, cool, we're gonna we're
Speaker 5: gonna shoot it like this and the demo tape. Actually
Speaker 5: the video didn't even go out because we didn't have
Speaker 5: no platform to put it on.
Speaker 6: We would just ship ship it or shop it with
Speaker 6: our demos.
Speaker 5: So the demo I was number seven out of a
Speaker 5: song of maybe like twenty eight, but with seven different
Speaker 5: or seven or eight different artists.
Speaker 6: It was like a damn mixtape mixed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So but basically they were shopping it out to other
Speaker 5: labels to see and I remember Tina Davis to this
Speaker 5: day shout out to Teena Davis. She she listened to
Speaker 5: the songs like who's this kid? And then I want
Speaker 5: to meet this kid? And that's when I went to
Speaker 5: death Jam and she had to meeting with us, and
Speaker 5: then from there they wanted to sign us, and then
Speaker 5: you know, a merger happened. She left and I was like,
Speaker 5: hold on, but Tina, you listened to me first, so
Speaker 5: could you you want to manage me? I don't got
Speaker 5: no manage You're like, She's like cool, but you want
Speaker 5: to stay here?
Speaker 1: Or I can get you some other deals? I said you,
Speaker 1: So does the company get the deal and you're part
Speaker 1: of that deal.
Speaker 5: So what it was was the company did a deal
Speaker 5: with me when I ended up signing with with job
Speaker 5: at the time, the company, we we just paid them
Speaker 5: out for the work that they already did, and then
Speaker 5: we gave them points on the album and they would away. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so they always get credited, so that that that classic album.
Speaker 5: They're always going to eat from it, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So the way I looked at it was
Speaker 5: it was cool because they didn't hold me into a nah,
Speaker 5: you gotta.
Speaker 6: Be like this, we get we taking your publishing, they
Speaker 6: need all this.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't strong arm at all because and
Speaker 1: they believed in the dream. You get what I'm saying
Speaker 1: to this day.
Speaker 5: TJ's father was the guy who who really put it together.
Speaker 5: So me and TJ are brothers, even with his kids
Speaker 5: with everything. So it's like, how how I looked at
Speaker 5: it was like.
Speaker 6: Damn, they gave me a shot and they let me.
Speaker 6: They let me do what I needed to do.
Speaker 2: Because there have been labels that have held artists and
Speaker 2: you never get a chance to see if an artist
Speaker 2: is going to become a star because they're just trying
Speaker 2: to do what they consider to be business instead of
Speaker 2: actually caring about the artists.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then Mark Pitts how they did it with us.
Speaker 5: With Mark Pitts, uh, the actual production company I was
Speaker 5: working with. They they brought me right to Mark Pits
Speaker 5: with Tina. So when we went to a job, they
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, we don't want to let
Speaker 5: y'all leave the building, like and I built a bigger
Speaker 5: rapport with Mark out of any other A and R
Speaker 5: that I would meet, Like, you know, Kevin Lowles was
Speaker 5: cool as hell, but like Mark Pitts was like more young.
Speaker 5: He was energetic, like he was like, hey man, let's
Speaker 5: and you know job had everybody too. They had Britney Spears,
Speaker 5: Aaron Carter at the time, recipes, uh r, Kelly, they
Speaker 5: had everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I'm looking like who who's going to be the
Speaker 5: best for the genre that I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be the best R and B genre?
Speaker 1: You're already thinking about that fourteen?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I needed.
Speaker 1: I needed.
Speaker 5: I always always wanted to execute a plan and know
Speaker 5: that it comes with a lot of shit, Like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like I'm not okay, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna just do this right now to get some girls
Speaker 5: and then go back home. Anything I could do to
Speaker 5: not go back home, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: to elevate my life, I think I planned. I'm very imaginative,
Speaker 5: so my.
Speaker 1: My, what is it called?
Speaker 6: My manifestations were already like years in advance.
Speaker 1: Like I want to do this, so you know, so
Speaker 1: you said, Tina Davis shout out to Tena Davis shout
Speaker 1: out to the area. Yeah, yeah, what's your when you
Speaker 1: get with Tina Davis? What is what is? First of all,
Speaker 1: you spoke on it just like a little bit in
Speaker 1: terms of you saying like something was something about her
Speaker 1: made sense for you, in terms of saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to roll with you. Yeah, what was that
Speaker 1: thing that you just connected with that just made you
Speaker 1: like because that's a different type of because you already
Speaker 1: in a building. Yeah, I feel like, well she did.
Speaker 5: She really kind of like showed me the first the
Speaker 5: first ten minutes of me being in the office because
Speaker 5: we came in there, Me and TJ came in there
Speaker 5: red rags on beads like.
Speaker 1: I had to get it.
Speaker 5: We came we came on some gangs, trying to look tough.
Speaker 5: She's like, take that ship off, take all that off.
Speaker 6: Boom boom.
Speaker 5: And when we when I started performing, she would be like,
Speaker 5: stop do this when you perform, act like that.
Speaker 6: This person the only person.
Speaker 5: So she gave me direction that i've that I've never experienced,
Speaker 5: and I was like, this is the sharpening that I
Speaker 5: need in order.
Speaker 1: To be big. You gee what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So once once she did that, I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: she believed in me and gave me a chance with
Speaker 5: somebody could have they could have just let me go
Speaker 5: out how I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: And then it was like, we don't want this.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We don't want this kid.
Speaker 6: She shaped it.
Speaker 5: So I was like, you know what, I don't want
Speaker 5: to I don't want to traverse through this whole kind
Speaker 5: of thing and not know where the fuck.
Speaker 6: I'm going that right there.
Speaker 5: I want to see if she wants to manage me
Speaker 5: or be a part of it, because she she kind
Speaker 5: of like open the spark up in my in my
Speaker 5: creative brain or seeing what I really needed to be.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm the reason I was asking you
Speaker 1: that is because as as like just as new artists emerged,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we see we see new artists
Speaker 1: with this we definitely a great level of confidence. But
Speaker 1: I want artists to make sure they' putting themselves in
Speaker 1: a position with people that challenge them. Yeah, challenge them
Speaker 1: to be better.
Speaker 5: What is it called what we conditioning? Not conditioning like
Speaker 5: when we were younger, you have to go through artists,
Speaker 5: developments development.
Speaker 1: That's what it was.
Speaker 5: So so as far as what we have to do
Speaker 5: is like you got to go through media training.
Speaker 6: You gotta go.
Speaker 5: You got to know how to answer a question, like
Speaker 5: you got to know how to think about lost art.
Speaker 1: You got to lead the interview. Yeah, like there they
Speaker 1: have a goal. But I have a fucking call, right, fact,
Speaker 1: I got ship that I'm selling. Yeah exactly, Okay, what
Speaker 1: question you asked me? We don't get back to this
Speaker 1: fucking I promise you. That takes preparation, though. That takes preparation.
Speaker 1: And I remember my first time meeting you in New York.
Speaker 2: I think he was like fourteen, maybe about to be fifteen,
Speaker 2: at Ethiopia's office when she was in publishing at the
Speaker 2: time at the Universal Music Publishing Company. And I was
Speaker 2: there on the writing trip and I never forget he
Speaker 2: walked in there. She said, it's a kid you got
Speaker 2: to meet. She's like, you have to meet him. She's like,
Speaker 2: he only in here for minute, but you got to
Speaker 2: meet him. And she brought you to that room, and
Speaker 2: I literally, like you said, within five ten minutes, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he about to be the biggest on
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 1: He was in the writing room. I was in the
Speaker 1: little writing room. I was in the little writing room.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, whoever the fuck that is that nigga?
Speaker 1: Everybody in trouble. She's like, you know how that is
Speaker 1: because she was signing you from a publishing seat.
Speaker 2: She was working with you on that, so you know,
Speaker 2: of course it's it's kind of one of those and
Speaker 2: you know the stage where everybody everywhere you're going before
Speaker 2: you crack off, your auditioning everywhere pretty much just in
Speaker 2: your personality whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So when I tell her, she's like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you start. I'm like, yo, he got it.
Speaker 2: It's like he has it, And I hadn't seen anything
Speaker 2: like that because to me, you were already even at
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen, in my opinion, you were already in the
Speaker 2: space of, oh, he's going to be able to transition
Speaker 2: into an adult artist too, even though you hadn't put
Speaker 2: out none of your kid record. I saw it with
Speaker 2: you and just from your personality back, you know, but
Speaker 2: what they used to call call it managed nigga, he
Speaker 2: was managed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was looking at everything.
Speaker 1: With a skirt.
Speaker 7: Who that what's the name? I'm like, that's the country.
Speaker 7: It starts early in the country. Yeah, you grow fast
Speaker 7: and fastest, so.
Speaker 1: You're making when you get with you now you start
Speaker 1: making rounds. Yeah right, because you you made you made
Speaker 1: heavy rounds very early that most most new artists don't
Speaker 1: get to make. You know what I'm saying. And you
Speaker 1: made a stop at the underdogs. Oh yeah, facts, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this little nigga, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 5: I was nervous to though, I ain't a lot going
Speaker 5: in there with y'all because you gotta think I'm still
Speaker 5: learning singing, like it's still I had a natural talent,
Speaker 5: but like to be in there and and here y'all
Speaker 5: running scales all that.
Speaker 6: I'm in there sweating.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to let you. You were scared
Speaker 1: you was going back with us though, he was like
Speaker 1: devil at him. I'm like, can you dance? He said, yeah, nigga.
Speaker 1: I was like you then. I think it was a
Speaker 1: DVD or tape of something, and I said.
Speaker 5: That showed you the whole I say, that's when we
Speaker 5: did the little school runs and I was showing you
Speaker 5: like the performance, said, oh you you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just I'm just trying to find a win.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you hoop niggas? Yeah, niggas, I can hoop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's And it was like at every turn it was
Speaker 1: like this nigga is different. This nigga do everything we sing,
Speaker 1: he danced, he hoop, he managed. I love this nigga
Speaker 1: and not to speed forward. But there was a point
Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, first you get a here record,
Speaker 1: let's start there. Out the gate, out the gate. There
Speaker 1: was no sputter for you at all. I was. I
Speaker 1: was just surprised though I was.
Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't even realize how big the
Speaker 5: record was gonna be, Like not to kill it now.
Speaker 5: But I hated the record because I was doing R
Speaker 5: and B R and B songs, so like Scott Stories,
Speaker 5: I was like, man, I don't know what a hit is,
Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna tell him that this is.
Speaker 1: Not a hit, right, And he got a gang of hits. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I sat in there like, man, I don't really
Speaker 1: like this song me in Miami.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to tell teen and all them, like, I
Speaker 5: don't think this is fun me this song ain't. We
Speaker 5: got so many other songs like the your song.
Speaker 1: The your song. I'm like, so.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking all of that type because I wanted to
Speaker 5: be more, more vulnerable or not, but I also wanted
Speaker 5: to kick ass on the dance and I wanted to
Speaker 5: show off that. So they was like, nah, trust me,
Speaker 5: this is it put it out and I didn't. When
Speaker 5: it blew up, I said, what the It's like, I'm
Speaker 5: still in like, what is it called imposter syndrome?
Speaker 1: To this day, I.
Speaker 5: Still know the feeling of how I felt when that
Speaker 5: shit went crazy.
Speaker 2: So when you do your difference, we went by that
Speaker 2: because I always asked this question, and at this point
Speaker 2: you're like fourteen fifty fifteen, when first you get to
Speaker 2: do did they let you touch the money?
Speaker 5: So how I did it? See a lot of people
Speaker 5: don't know. I didn't get signed for like you know
Speaker 5: how people get signed for. Oh I got signed for
Speaker 5: me and eight men.
Speaker 6: Back then it.
Speaker 5: Won't So I got signed for like one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty kay, right and so and then from there, because
Speaker 5: I was under age, my mom was in control of it.
Speaker 1: But most of it would be like in.
Speaker 5: A trust yeah yeah, the Coogan account, yeah, cooglandcount so
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to touch it. So obviously we could
Speaker 5: she could go and withdraw stuff if I wanted to
Speaker 5: make purchases or I wanted to do stuff. But nah,
Speaker 5: I still was every bit of a teenager that they
Speaker 5: made me.
Speaker 1: So as a teenager's the what's the first thing you buy?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you escalate? Bro? Off? The deal that what you got?
Speaker 6: No, you know what it was?
Speaker 5: Was it an escalator? And it was like an, I
Speaker 5: don't know if it's not. It might have been escalator
Speaker 5: or for Ford something. I remember it's a big truck.
Speaker 1: It's been a while.
Speaker 5: I had the Lamborghina doors on it, and like I
Speaker 5: put the doors that come up, like your first car,
Speaker 5: your first car.
Speaker 1: Had Lamborghina doors. This is getting I was about to get.
Speaker 6: I swear I was about to get a Honda Civic.
Speaker 1: Bro, I was about to get a Putt that was
Speaker 1: gonna be my first car.
Speaker 2: But it was like it's definitely your uncle God, you
Speaker 2: definitely gotta be real related.
Speaker 1: So sure, because I was gonna do with the suicide
Speaker 1: man the butterfly doors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, Like I'm from I'm from partial South, like
Speaker 5: Virginia is the South.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, So you don't just
Speaker 1: listen to what DC Maryland, Like what d C and Maryland?
Speaker 1: They mirror the South, Yeah, period, like we mirror everything South,
Speaker 1: like we went through East Coast phase with Big Ee,
Speaker 1: but we mirror the fast money.
Speaker 6: Was it Tappahannock?
Speaker 1: Definitely just cash money? Was you you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Everybody?
Speaker 2: You know, your purchase is the best one that we've had.
Speaker 2: What nigga, that's sixteen you bought?
Speaker 5: But I had the amps in the back too. I
Speaker 5: had like I ain't gonna lie. I took out the
Speaker 5: whole back seat. It's like it was like six six sixteen.
Speaker 2: And knocking locking, He's full nigga.
Speaker 5: I was in Virginia thinking, I was, you know, you.
Speaker 1: Pull up on that skating ring with that Oh god,
Speaker 1: it it's lik first hit record. What changes for you
Speaker 1: in your mind? Now? I mean now it's not now.
Speaker 1: Now it's not guesswork. Now things are like this is
Speaker 1: what I do. Now, things are automatic. Now, things are
Speaker 1: like it's more so what I need I can get.
Speaker 5: It kind of was like you know, when the kid,
Speaker 5: when I could just go to the movies with my
Speaker 5: homeboys walking.
Speaker 6: Because I did everything as a as a regular kid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Even being in Harlem, to be in Virginia like I did,
Speaker 5: like regular shit, So I was used to being around
Speaker 5: people and being in an environment. As soon as that
Speaker 5: song went crazy, I couldn't go nowhere. I couldn't go
Speaker 5: to the mall. Like if I walked outside of the
Speaker 5: neighborhood that I was in, it would be people running
Speaker 5: down the street like, so I.
Speaker 1: Was still in Virginia. No.
Speaker 5: Well, and but Jay took me out of Virginia as
Speaker 5: soon as as soon as I shot the deal, like
Speaker 5: I think my record came on. I was in tenth
Speaker 5: grade when my song came out when I got my
Speaker 5: record deal, so and I didn't leave school until after
Speaker 5: my song had already hit the radio. So they's like,
Speaker 5: we got to pull them, we gotta, we gotta get
Speaker 5: them out of there. So then from there, I went
Speaker 5: from Virginia to Jersey, so so I could be closer
Speaker 5: to uh, New York. But I couldn't even walk down
Speaker 5: the street there like I was. We would literally have
Speaker 5: to drive in the garage every time we come home
Speaker 5: and shut the door. So nobody knows what's.
Speaker 1: The what's the mindset of that for you?
Speaker 2: As this sixteen year old fifteen sixteen year old kid, like,
Speaker 2: how does it? Because that's the one thing it's bro,
Speaker 2: And I know, I know he can attest to this
Speaker 2: because we are all so close and we've all known
Speaker 2: each other for so long.
Speaker 1: We have so many conversations that come to.
Speaker 2: Us about you, right, and my things always been. I
Speaker 2: can't tell him. I can only tell him so much
Speaker 2: because I haven't had that experience. And that's a very
Speaker 2: real thing that I think people have never truly taken
Speaker 2: into account that, Bro, this has been your life since
Speaker 2: fifteen years old, Like, just tell me if you can
Speaker 2: remember that as being like a fifteen year old, Like, yo,
Speaker 2: they're pulling me out of school. I can't go outside,
Speaker 2: I can't go to the movies.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of kid no more because of
Speaker 1: my challenging spirit. I like challenges.
Speaker 6: It was amazing thing because could I be real?
Speaker 5: Because guess what if? Well, now I'm gonna look at
Speaker 5: the bright side. I ain't got to be in school.
Speaker 5: I ain't got to be I could do my I
Speaker 5: got a two do.
Speaker 1: I don't got to be there. I could do.
Speaker 6: I can go out.
Speaker 1: Did you finish? I'm going yeah I did, if you did.
Speaker 6: But I ain't gonna lie. I took the first two
Speaker 6: years off.
Speaker 1: Of high school though college.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was originally supposed to be the seven.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of yeah, so.
Speaker 1: So technically your two years younger to Yeah, I'll take
Speaker 1: it ship.
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, it was so for you you adjusted
Speaker 5: to it. Yeah, it wasn't and it would be fun.
Speaker 5: I would still do regular ship. I would just make
Speaker 5: sure I have my niggas around, like my homeboys, some
Speaker 5: of them be in school.
Speaker 6: I'd go to their school.
Speaker 5: So my cousin just on a Friday, Hey, y'all.
Speaker 6: Come outside, the girls out saw the window screaming.
Speaker 5: Then after that they come back to school on Monday.
Speaker 1: They the man in school, you know.
Speaker 5: So I used to go to the mall ship bow
Speaker 5: Bo did this ship too, like shout out to bow
Speaker 5: But we used to go to the mall, and I
Speaker 5: did it by myself, just to see what it was.
Speaker 5: I used to go to the mall and just go
Speaker 5: to one store it's popping in Virginia and like, hey
Speaker 5: that's and then take off running and wait.
Speaker 1: You would run before it even gets started take off.
Speaker 1: We did this all the time, man, and it worked.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about they would chase you was running out
Speaker 1: of Men's Land. I was run out. I was at
Speaker 1: I think Virginia Center. Comments. That's what it was we.
Speaker 5: Used to go to. And then I used to be
Speaker 5: at I used to go with what it was it
Speaker 5: up against the wall. It was another dt L A detailer. Yeah, said,
Speaker 5: I'll be right there. They had to ship there, man,
Speaker 5: what all the girls being there? So and then I
Speaker 5: go in there and start with my homeboys to come
Speaker 5: with me, and then I sing just so they notice
Speaker 5: who I am, like just on some young ship. Then
Speaker 5: they'll be like, hold on that, there's some R and
Speaker 5: V ship, R n V ship.
Speaker 1: Nigga can't just bust out rapping. Yeah, you look around
Speaker 1: and facts it worked, absolutely worked. Okay here here, here's
Speaker 1: what I want from you. Right when did you meet him?
Speaker 1: When it was the Scream tour that first album, that
Speaker 1: first album, right, I think it was. It had to be.
Speaker 1: It had to be like first album and the first
Speaker 1: album fatigues, yes, first album, yep. Okay, So so I'm
Speaker 1: watching I used to watch you in the Marion Battle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I used to I used to watch oh get you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would you would be like fuck, you would be angry.
Speaker 1: Nigga was nigga all right, and I'll be back.
Speaker 5: But I always say this to his day at that time,
Speaker 5: his discipline and what he learned and how he gets
Speaker 5: that niggas was.
Speaker 1: Not fucking with that boy. He's a monster.
Speaker 5: I don't know about now because I get off now,
Speaker 5: but at that time, that boy was a monster.
Speaker 1: He was a monster. But I want to go to
Speaker 1: the Scream tour. I was using that to set up
Speaker 1: set up the Scream tour, and my cousin, my cousin
Speaker 1: and my people wanted to go to the tour, so
Speaker 1: we can't. We came to see you, and we came
Speaker 1: backstage and everything, and I'm watching you on stage and
Speaker 1: I had I hadn't seen you perform since the album
Speaker 1: was out, since everything was going crazy, I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: you perform yet, and you know, all had the records
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, of course he was headlined.
Speaker 1: But I watched you come out in those black fatigues
Speaker 1: and I watched I can't do the move. I watched
Speaker 1: like you was the crumping up and you were like
Speaker 1: paulse you was. Your arms were out this wide you was,
Speaker 1: you was. It was the like the whole fucking stage
Speaker 1: was in between y'all, and I'm looking. I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: getting ready to pass the guy. He's getting ready to
Speaker 1: pass him because I didn't see a kid on stage.
Speaker 1: I saw a grown ass man on stage at the
Speaker 1: screen tour. He's getting ready and I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: little cousin. She's like, oh my god, you all right?
Speaker 1: You know, we go to church on Sunday, you know,
Speaker 1: we have today's fri listen, and we go backstage to
Speaker 1: to take her to meet him and she sees, she
Speaker 1: sees this nigga Chris in the flesh and she goes,
Speaker 1: mm hmm, see you are little? Did you ask that
Speaker 1: you are little? That night I saw you, there was
Speaker 1: for me the beginning of the separation of you going
Speaker 1: to another place because I felt like you were I
Speaker 1: felt like you were angrier, you were more aggressive, and
Speaker 1: you had something in your mind that you were aiming.
Speaker 1: You know what it was?
Speaker 5: Though, even being on that tour, like what I learned,
Speaker 5: and I learned from Bio a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like one of the greatest showmen as
Speaker 1: far as so the lack of discipline that I had.
Speaker 5: I had a great amount of training, meaning like Okay,
Speaker 5: Sam's you know, everybody, they gonna they're gonna get us
Speaker 5: right with the moves, were gonna have fun. And I
Speaker 5: was able to be also creative too. They didn't just
Speaker 5: say we're gonna do this. They let me come up
Speaker 5: with some things. But the thing that I felt that
Speaker 5: I lacked was the experienced one and and just the
Speaker 5: discipline that everybody else had, you know, we it was
Speaker 5: B two K bow uh.
Speaker 1: It was so many other artists all polished here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so when you.
Speaker 5: Would see their shows, you would see the glitz and
Speaker 5: the glamour. Like me, I had a DJ booth, just
Speaker 5: a little DJ booth that I was slide from under
Speaker 5: with the dancers with the little smoke, and then I
Speaker 5: had a graffiti background, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: they maybe maybe gave me like twelve minutes. I probably
Speaker 5: had like not even that, it might have been eight minutes.
Speaker 5: So I had to, you know, figure it out. But
Speaker 5: seeing these other performers, it kind of like grew my
Speaker 5: hunger for what I needed to be doing in order
Speaker 5: to in order to be the person headlining, in order
Speaker 5: to be the person that I think I can be,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So a lot of them,
Speaker 5: a lot of those guys and seeing their performers, seeing
Speaker 5: their their quality and how out long they're dancing and
Speaker 5: then they're just getting off and all the screens like
Speaker 5: it was really the Scream Tour, Like you, it was
Speaker 5: no other There's no other experience that I can tell you.
Speaker 5: At that time, was like forget all the festivals and
Speaker 5: stuff that they.
Speaker 6: Got going on right now.
Speaker 1: Back then your ears were literally you would really go.
Speaker 2: Definitely shout out to Michael Martin. I saw him during
Speaker 2: the Grammy week. I never met him before, and I
Speaker 2: just told him, I'm like, listen, man, what you did
Speaker 2: just what I mean obviously what you've.
Speaker 1: Done in the business, pier, but that Scream Tour, Jesus.
Speaker 2: With giving that type of spotlight to young artists and
Speaker 2: putting him on that type of platform. I don't know
Speaker 2: anyone that's done that.
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't. I don't think it can be
Speaker 5: done right now. It's not like with you, I think
Speaker 5: that's sounds I can't even recreate. Like I was just
Speaker 5: happy to be a part.
Speaker 1: Of it, Like I was like, that's a legendary to
Speaker 1: recreate with these phones. Man, that's the other part. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because because like that stay was like still in
Speaker 1: that moment, it still was a place where you still
Speaker 1: felt like this is the only place I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to see that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm only gonna see this type of shit here.
Speaker 1: It was still that we hadn't gotten to the phone
Speaker 1: yet to where you could get used to seeing that
Speaker 1: type of shit all the time. It just runs all day.
Speaker 1: That's them scream to it. It was really screams, yeah,
Speaker 1: facts like motherfuckers. When you came on stage, it was
Speaker 1: they was glued from from from from top to bottom.
Speaker 5: And I was nervous because that's like, you know, we
Speaker 5: would performed before, Like I've performed at different places I
Speaker 5: had to perform what is it playing in Hollywood?
Speaker 6: Different different places?
Speaker 5: But there's a little venues when you I'm in an
Speaker 5: arena now, and it's even though are going first. The
Speaker 5: parents back then they trying to get their kids into
Speaker 5: the building early. So now if the show starts at
Speaker 5: let's say nine, some people might not leave their house
Speaker 5: to eight thirty, you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 5: back then, everybody's in there, sitting there waiting. So whoever
Speaker 5: the first artist is, they either standing up or booing ship.
Speaker 2: Did you like, speaking of booing, did you ever experience
Speaker 2: a fucked up show early on?
Speaker 1: Like early on?
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm gonna be real, like I've never got
Speaker 5: like a Boo, like a bad boot.
Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx myself, but but I've never
Speaker 1: got like.
Speaker 2: He's not your nigga, but I've never I never got
Speaker 2: Boo on a thousand hit records.
Speaker 1: But you're not getting don't worry about that. I almost
Speaker 1: you said, you almost got Boo. It started off with
Speaker 1: this money. That's my fault.
Speaker 2: His playlist was song wasn't working yeah radio so and
Speaker 2: he still wanted to sing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which we're working. It was was spent seven thousand.
Speaker 1: I started singing the songs little girls in the front
Speaker 1: row looking at her friends.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 7: Oh god, I still got two minutes and it's a tape,
Speaker 7: so that you you just gotta.
Speaker 5: Live that motherfucking out you started. That's when you start
Speaker 5: thinking the most.
Speaker 1: That's when I started sweating. That's when you get caught
Speaker 1: the mouth man.
Speaker 5: Now I sucked up myself on stage, like did the
Speaker 5: back flip slipped? But I play it off or like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Then stepped off the stage
Speaker 5: before and fell in the crowd.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they still feel bad for because you're just
Speaker 2: being great.
Speaker 1: Yeah they still screamed.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, Okay, So off the first off,
Speaker 2: the first album, you start to you start to see
Speaker 2: what this thing is like. You start to see, you know,
Speaker 2: what fame is like, and how how you're gonna adjust.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have like the can I do it again?
Speaker 1: Because you know, people talk about the sophomore sophomore.
Speaker 5: I had that in my in the back of my
Speaker 5: head probably every day, you know what I'm saying. So like,
Speaker 5: for me, it was because the first album was like
Speaker 5: a learning experience.
Speaker 1: I wrote with writers.
Speaker 5: I didn't really write, you know, it was really how
Speaker 5: they kind of shaped what I what my ideas would be.
Speaker 5: The second album was like, okay, cool, well you've been
Speaker 5: You've been right at the song selections. You're picking the choices,
Speaker 5: you know what you're doing. So but I feel like
Speaker 5: it's like the challenge thing again. I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I'm gonna try to prove them wrong.
Speaker 1: You fought for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, I proved myself wrong with the
Speaker 5: with the first album. So it's like now now I'm
Speaker 5: gonna prove them wrong. I could do this ship.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 6: I had that sophomore JINX in the back of my head.
Speaker 1: What's the first first record from the second.
Speaker 5: The second album Damn Let Me You Make Me Go?
Speaker 5: You know, I got a lot of Damn albums, man, I.
Speaker 1: Know. I think that's the album.
Speaker 2: Records from the first from the first album?
Speaker 1: Was it kids, Kiss? Yeah?
Speaker 6: It was was that it had to it had to
Speaker 6: Oh no Wall to Wall?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I think it was Wall. It was
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely Wall then Kiss Kiss. I imagine you're putting
Speaker 1: together your show set.
Speaker 6: You know, look for tour now.
Speaker 1: Bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 5: Because I'm trying to because you know, people are still
Speaker 5: in love with the older songs, so it's.
Speaker 6: Like, I have no problem doing that.
Speaker 5: But the only difference is when people come to my shows,
Speaker 5: I want them to see something like evolution.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They're not seeing the last tour that they saw then
Speaker 5: I seen the one before that. Every tour is completely
Speaker 5: different and it gives them, you know, the same nostalgia.
Speaker 5: But also with this with the new music. So it's
Speaker 5: so hard for us right now. I even I even
Speaker 5: put on my Instagram and Twitter, like, look what songs
Speaker 5: y'all want me to perform? There was like all of
Speaker 5: them bitches. I said, we're gonna be there for three days.
Speaker 1: I'm not got to think you got to think of
Speaker 1: it like this though, right, I always equated back to
Speaker 1: like Frankie Beverly and May. Yeah, Frankie Beverly and the
Speaker 1: same show in arenas for twenty years.
Speaker 2: With all due respect, they don't have a hundred.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, let me get into. What I'm getting
Speaker 1: to is the variations of those songs that make it
Speaker 1: old to you. Don't get don't get old to them.
Speaker 1: Don't get old to them. But at least how you
Speaker 1: how how they will see it? Yeah, they remember that.
Speaker 1: They're telling that friends watch when he do this, he
Speaker 1: do this thing when he sings, Watch when they're you're waiting.
Speaker 5: You got a point too, that's the point. But I
Speaker 5: always want to how I look. I'll be like, you
Speaker 5: know what. I want to always give them more.
Speaker 1: It's not like.
Speaker 5: Because you can see Chris Brown on YouTube, but you
Speaker 5: can go see it and be like all right, and
Speaker 5: then they're like, man, even fell off.
Speaker 6: I never want to hear that ship until I'm ready
Speaker 6: to be like, look.
Speaker 1: I'm tired, I think because new material. I'm not.
Speaker 6: You're not gonna be tired. But that was just hypothetic.
Speaker 1: You have like eight thousand songs and the what's the
Speaker 1: longest show you've done? Ship?
Speaker 5: The last one we just did. We just came from
Speaker 5: towards overseas. You came to it like two hours and
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's just why was it, Nigga, that's let's
Speaker 1: go Let's go there. That's let's go there movie, that's
Speaker 1: let's go overs ship. I was like, babe, we're going
Speaker 1: over seas to Chris Brown. What the fuck are you
Speaker 1: talking about? We're going to Paris. Pack your ship. We're
Speaker 1: going to see Chris Brown. Told you now, so made
Speaker 1: me tell you again.
Speaker 2: Nigga, act like you have enough room in his bag
Speaker 2: to bring me back a hoodie or nothing.
Speaker 1: No, no, Merchy don't like to travel like that? First,
Speaker 1: Why you should can't? Okay, okay, march here now, merchant here,
Speaker 1: march here. We were in Paris and we put up
Speaker 1: to the venue I'm hitting and we're here. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, come to the back. And as we're at
Speaker 1: the venue, it's quiet outside of the venue. So the show.
Speaker 1: The show starts in like maybe like an hour. It's quiet,
Speaker 1: there's no traffic, there's there's there's nothing. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is weird. This is Chris Brown show.
Speaker 5: This is this is supposed to be It's supposed.
Speaker 1: To be off the chain, house side, motherfucker is supposed
Speaker 1: to be bootlegging shit, all of shit. Right, we walk
Speaker 1: into that Building's twenty thousand people already in there, probably
Speaker 1: two hours. They are in their seats like this.
Speaker 8: Ready but everything Risponni's coming out Soon's just stating when
Speaker 8: Crispan It's going to be so good and and you know,
Speaker 8: we're so used to seeing shows, you know, in the
Speaker 8: States and how people react in the States, but I
Speaker 8: wanted to go to Paris because I wanted to see
Speaker 8: people with a different mindset.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see people completely free of what this
Speaker 1: the state stigma is. You gotta be cool when people
Speaker 1: supposed to ask how the dudes, I mean, I fuck
Speaker 1: with the know what I'm saying, I rock with It
Speaker 1: wasn't none of that. I'm watching grown men go ape
Speaker 1: shoes these themselves in the music. When these songs come on,
Speaker 1: I got a videotape of the entire arena jumping up
Speaker 1: and die. I'm like Jesus, Rice and we had talked
Speaker 1: about it before before you got the overseas tour, and
Speaker 1: I said, Bro, I said, look, bro, the world is
Speaker 1: getting ready to open up to you in such a
Speaker 1: way that I don't even think you could you even
Speaker 1: understand it. And you was like, he was like, bro,
Speaker 1: I hear you, but I'm I'm I'm not gonna believe
Speaker 1: it until I see it. Yeah, facts, I remember I
Speaker 1: told you that. Yeah, And we and we were sitting
Speaker 1: in your dress room backstage. I said, do you see this?
Speaker 1: I said it, And I watched you for two nights
Speaker 1: in a row. I don't know how the fuck you
Speaker 1: did it for two and a half hours dance and
Speaker 1: sing NonStop.
Speaker 5: Because I haven't been over there in a minute too,
Speaker 5: so by me having a tour out there, I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: this is I haven't toured over there in twelve years
Speaker 5: in certain places twelve like like London, certain places it
Speaker 5: has been twelve years. So I'm like, damn. So that
Speaker 5: they got a whole chunk of history that they ain't
Speaker 5: even sing. So I'm like, I can't be lazy and
Speaker 5: go on stage and do sixty minutes ninety minutes and
Speaker 5: be like, all right, cool, we just give me out
Speaker 5: of new shit and getting out of the.
Speaker 1: Sixty ninety minutes is the that's the regular show. And
Speaker 1: he's like, I.
Speaker 5: Can't be that because of the chunk of yeah, because beause,
Speaker 5: because think about it, it's it's people that's my age
Speaker 5: bringing their kids to the show, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they're like, now this is the person I like.
Speaker 5: So it's almost like teaching a class again, like okay, cool,
Speaker 5: the kid.
Speaker 6: Might not know this song, but they mama know the
Speaker 6: song and they gonna pray, you know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: But in that in that space, it's like it's like
Speaker 5: a different appreciation. Remember I was like, it's like not
Speaker 5: the discredit, you know, the US, But at the end
Speaker 5: of the day when you go.
Speaker 1: Over there, it's like different.
Speaker 6: You're really appreciated for the music.
Speaker 1: All the time. Either like you said, they miss you,
Speaker 1: they miss you. But R and B is still a thing.
Speaker 1: Listen and I and I gotta say it like we're
Speaker 1: not we're not slighting in the US, but the US
Speaker 1: is spoiled. They see us walking down the street they see.
Speaker 1: It's very to see. It's in Miami moving already, they
Speaker 1: see us and so overseas like even just just even
Speaker 1: outside of the presence, their their thirst and desire for
Speaker 1: real music is just it's just different. It's still old
Speaker 1: school over there. It's it's it's they know the words
Speaker 1: her songs and don't speak English. That's gotta be graazy.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's phenom. I never I could never understand that.
Speaker 5: It still makes me. I think I get more excited
Speaker 5: when I when I when I see that because I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know what, that that type of energy. They don't
Speaker 5: know what the fuck I'm saying, or they might now,
Speaker 5: but it's for them to like something that that bad
Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, that takes dedication.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know the States give me my love too,
Speaker 1: because I can't. I can't lie.
Speaker 6: Fuck the media aspect we talk about, like we talk.
Speaker 5: About when I when I, when we geah them asses
Speaker 5: in them seats, you know what I'm saying, and so
Speaker 5: and they real fans like my fan base. I can say,
Speaker 5: you know, you got Nikki's fan base, Beyonce these fan base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the.
Speaker 5: Fans I feel like everybody there in their family, they
Speaker 5: got they always you know, I always a comment. I'll
Speaker 5: get on somebody, ask if they go crazy in the comments,
Speaker 5: but I always listen and kind of like let them
Speaker 5: dictate certain aspects of Okay, y'all want to hear this.
Speaker 5: Y'all like this, like I like to be engaged with
Speaker 5: them so they so they know that this ain't just
Speaker 5: like oh all right, shut up and listen, and then
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make y'all follow me this way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I feel like as a family and the people that
Speaker 5: support me there, I love this person. You know, it'd
Speaker 5: be people's mama's kids younger, they be like, you know
Speaker 5: where I let that boy like so, and I can
Speaker 5: I can feel that energy. So when I get into
Speaker 5: an arena, you know, the fans is the really one
Speaker 5: to keep me in.
Speaker 1: Bro, you change the meet and greet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got some flat all that too, Like nigga,
Speaker 2: you literally change the.
Speaker 1: Meet and Greek. I'm gonna I want to say this, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, they got on his ass like I'm not
Speaker 1: doing okay, I might have to do something, Yeah you
Speaker 1: got you gotta at least I might have to do something,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the Chris Brown meet
Speaker 1: and Greek, it's out of control. You might need to
Speaker 1: press that.
Speaker 9: Ship fun like I bet it's.
Speaker 5: Because look where else in the time, Like everybody usually
Speaker 5: like you get your pictures back in the day.
Speaker 6: All the artists like, yeah, you like.
Speaker 5: Like and I don't do I'm not doing like one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty people a night, like you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So might be a small intimate group of
Speaker 5: people that actually spent that money that they might not
Speaker 5: even have to come and meet me. So I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna make their moment, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 5: make their moment, just something, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Let me sign this?
Speaker 6: Get the fuck out.
Speaker 5: Like that's weak to me because I feel like these
Speaker 5: are the same people, no matter how big of that
Speaker 5: group or smaller that group, I feel like they're the
Speaker 5: same people. That's a part of the family aspect. So
Speaker 5: so and some of these girls, I mean that's the
Speaker 5: bucket list. Some of them they like, Look, all I
Speaker 5: want to do is just be able to be on him.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 6: As long as you ain't got COVID.
Speaker 1: We're good. I should tell my wife she should loosen
Speaker 1: up and let me. Yeah. Yeah, but you.
Speaker 5: Can't do no motherfucking pictures with your shirt off because
Speaker 5: then you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't gauge the person. You lick your
Speaker 1: stomach and something you're gonna be like hold.
Speaker 10: On you that you get off now, But you do
Speaker 10: got you also, in my opinion, bro, like I've met
Speaker 10: a lot of people, I'm friends with a lot of people.
Speaker 2: We've been in this industry a long time, and I
Speaker 2: really believe that you are the most.
Speaker 1: How can I say you're.
Speaker 2: The your cares bro cook absolutely care, but the most accessible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, superstar I've ever seen literally, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I feel like I feel like Jill probably
Speaker 5: humbled me on that one.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 5: But being able to like go through shit and not
Speaker 5: have to be, you know, walk a thin line because
Speaker 5: a lot of artists have to walk in thin line
Speaker 5: unless you're independent. If you're like the mainstream, you can't
Speaker 5: do this. You can't be associated with somebody, You can't
Speaker 5: do a song because of how it looks. Once that shit,
Speaker 5: like once I was able to still do music and
Speaker 5: they was and I got to be my regular nigga,
Speaker 5: Like I got to be myself. Man, funk all this
Speaker 5: extra shit. I can look if somebody come up to me,
Speaker 5: what's up you like with music?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 6: I appreciate it?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 5: Can I get a picture if I'm in a go
Speaker 5: Sorry not right now, but I appreciate you boom.
Speaker 1: If I'm not, it's miss a million pictures.
Speaker 5: Whether I'm drunk, whatever it is, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 5: picture with somebody like because I've been able, I've been
Speaker 5: humbled through whatever my experiences are. Like, so I done
Speaker 5: went through bullshit. I and went through you know, normal
Speaker 5: nigga shit. So it's like, you know what, let me uh,
Speaker 5: let me not take this ship for granted and be
Speaker 5: appreciative every single second, every single time I get to
Speaker 5: get a chance to like do anything or be around somebody.
Speaker 1: This is a flowers pod, right, and so this is
Speaker 1: for you, your flowers. Take a second to to to
Speaker 1: speak on team Breezy and and staying down with you
Speaker 1: through thick and thin. What is that feeling like to you?
Speaker 5: It's the it's the imposter syndrome again, like you know,
Speaker 5: because it's it's it's unbelievable. Like sometimes I wake up
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn people go by, like whether I'm promoting,
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's some shoes I'm promoting, or
Speaker 5: there's a there's a following of people.
Speaker 1: A big following of people who who support me, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that also makes me, uh like cherish where I'm at,
Speaker 5: bro a team breezy, Like even to have a name
Speaker 5: for people.
Speaker 6: To follow you is kind of crazy, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I'm appreciative, like my fans know
Speaker 5: how much, and I try to let them in on
Speaker 5: stuff I talked to them, like I remember because somebody
Speaker 5: dates for the tours will come.
Speaker 6: I say, look, y'all, get on my damn nerves.
Speaker 5: If y'all ain't got the damn you sit, ain't only
Speaker 5: got this, shut up the puck up and.
Speaker 1: Go to the next city.
Speaker 5: So so so like but but I'm able to I
Speaker 5: wouldn't even be in this chair right now, like but
Speaker 5: y'all my brother, so I probably would be in the chair.
Speaker 5: But any success or anything that that's further that these
Speaker 5: songs that I'm putting out like that, ain't that ain't
Speaker 5: us paying somebody off and trying to like please, like
Speaker 5: you know, what I'm saying, that's that's really the fans,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and they and they kept
Speaker 5: me here twenty almost twenty years now, so it's like
Speaker 5: for me to have that connection with them, it's probably
Speaker 5: the biggest thing ever, you know. So so I'm maybe
Speaker 5: that's why I'm always thirsty and still doing me is
Speaker 5: why he's still doing this? Why it because of y'all?
Speaker 1: Like that's the reason real talk shout out to team Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked the Team Breezy oft. I talked the Team Breezy,
Speaker 1: you know, as as as as as a Team Breezer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever with you shout out
Speaker 1: what's your favorite album?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Out of mind? Damn it's you know what it is?
Speaker 6: Can I have two?
Speaker 1: You can all? I got Eleven of the Motherfuckers?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: My two will be my first one because of the
Speaker 5: experience that what we talked about earlier, like how it
Speaker 5: felt everything was was was amazing. So I think the
Speaker 5: first one and then my fame album. Yeah, I got
Speaker 5: the Grammy Grammy album. And the reason why I say
Speaker 5: that is because of the ship I had to go
Speaker 5: through around that time and still make music and people
Speaker 5: still listening to me despite maybe not for tking with me.
Speaker 1: For real, I'm not.
Speaker 5: Liking New York, you know what I'm saying. The first
Speaker 5: canceled Nigga, So you know, so those two albums kind
Speaker 5: of like were milestones in my career, Like the first
Speaker 5: one has shown me that I'm I'm able to do it,
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 1: That album like, Okay, you can do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can do it again. I'm gonna go. The first album,
Speaker 1: first album as a classic exclusive is special to me.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Chris song? In the goal is what's
Speaker 1: your favorite Chris song? Okay, I know mine off the
Speaker 1: top of my head.
Speaker 2: It changes, he just plays I still got my favorite,
Speaker 2: though you don't have your favorite.
Speaker 1: It changes every time he plays me.
Speaker 2: Something he just to this day, yeah, to this day.
Speaker 2: The Nigga played it for me a record plan, and
Speaker 2: I said, Nigga director tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The record the record that the record that haunts me,
Speaker 1: like a record that when I hear it, it takes
Speaker 1: me to where I was, like, it takes me back
Speaker 1: to Paris and watching on stage. It's indigo. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: something about the feeling, It's something about the conversation. It's
Speaker 1: something about Indigo, Bro, that is so special to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's the melodies, it's
Speaker 1: the trust, the production, it's the words, it's like my life.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's special to me, super special. And Heat.
Speaker 1: And the reason Heat just got so embedded was because
Speaker 1: everybody thinks I'm singing on it. Everybody thinks I'm singing
Speaker 1: on Heat, and I never said I wasn't singing on Heat.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't think he knows
Speaker 1: what songs he's on one of yours, since Chris I
Speaker 1: think I'm singing backgrounds. I was just I was just
Speaker 1: in a sensation on the other day and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, why does he sound like me on
Speaker 1: the end of this song? Why is his ad libs?
Speaker 1: I said, funk, I did the ad libs? Got it?
Speaker 1: Got it? Because Chris will be like, get the boof
Speaker 1: and just sing something this ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah be because I just need his voice and backgrounds
Speaker 5: and he knows where to put the pockets at. So
Speaker 5: I'd be like, it'd been damn it, eight to nine
Speaker 5: songs already.
Speaker 1: He never remembers though, we'd be doing so much of it,
Speaker 1: and for me, it's just like in your space, I
Speaker 1: just try to make myself available for whatever it is
Speaker 1: you need. You know what I'm saying, whether it be
Speaker 1: whether it be musical conversation. Another question I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you is probably a deeper question in and now
Speaker 1: in your stages of being a father. We we have
Speaker 1: so many loves, right, and love changes in terms of
Speaker 1: what it means as we grow. What does love mean
Speaker 1: to you? Now, that's a deep question. What does love
Speaker 1: mean to me? Uh?
Speaker 5: Love is scary to me, but at the same time,
Speaker 5: like it's too I'm full of it, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I'm full of love.
Speaker 1: Like so I feel like.
Speaker 5: My kids kind of like made me appreciate what that
Speaker 5: word mean, what the word meant like to love something
Speaker 5: outside of yourself, outside of anything.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's that's great segue. Are they are? Are
Speaker 1: they making you more free to love, more open to love? Yes?
Speaker 6: And no, they're they're making me more open to loving them.
Speaker 6: Then like I'm just.
Speaker 1: I'm pouring all my love into them, but you're also
Speaker 1: very protective. Yeah, but you yeah, not let more people in.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, But at the same time, like it's making
Speaker 5: me learn patience and making me learn just life skills
Speaker 5: that I that I made. It might have been too
Speaker 5: too antsy for too busy for So I think love
Speaker 5: for me now is like it's expanding. It's like me,
Speaker 5: you saying you have to have a favorite color, right, No,
Speaker 5: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I can actually find beauty in every all of the colors.
Speaker 5: So my, uh, my thought process on love isn't as
Speaker 5: controlled as I thought it should be. It should be
Speaker 5: like this, It should be like no, like love is
Speaker 5: an abundance to me. So I feel like it's like,
Speaker 5: all right, cool, I don't got Yeah I could, I
Speaker 5: could do this.
Speaker 1: Out. Yeah, I can smile a lot more. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Now look look that's that's what you're for, what you've
Speaker 2: been through and what you've accomplished.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should smile more. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You should continue to have a good time because this
Speaker 2: this isn't given to everyone. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's especially your life.
Speaker 1: And what you know.
Speaker 2: And but the thing that would make me angry when
Speaker 2: it came to you was that people didn't realize this
Speaker 2: was your life, you know what I mean. Everybody had
Speaker 2: an opinion or has an opinion of how you should
Speaker 2: live your life. And for me, as your brother, I've
Speaker 2: never had an opinion about how you should live your life.
Speaker 2: And you know we've had many a talk to you
Speaker 2: in many cities and many long nights, and I've never
Speaker 2: said you should do No, you should do what you
Speaker 2: want to do and live how you want to live
Speaker 2: and experience the things you want to because it's what
Speaker 2: makes you who you are.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you've been able to, like you said, average mofucker
Speaker 2: can't go sit down and go and be in a
Speaker 2: whole tank and go to jail.
Speaker 1: That's your experience.
Speaker 2: So whatever that put you there, you were able to
Speaker 2: man up. Except that even though you did lose me
Speaker 2: a championship in the NBA E League, Yeah, because we was.
Speaker 1: Undefeated and then you went you had to do too
Speaker 1: much to see you had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like and then by the time I
Speaker 5: got out, I was not about to play no.
Speaker 1: Basketball and over the.
Speaker 2: Bad see you and you was like, going in two weeks,
Speaker 2: you have to have a froe and the stomach.
Speaker 1: You said, it's gonna be gone. It's gonna be going
Speaker 1: in two weeks. Two weeks, and then two weeks and
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, he's back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, because they call me in them pictures.
Speaker 5: I think we went to like now I went to
Speaker 5: I went to South to France or something.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: They took the pictures and I was just seeing that
Speaker 5: that jelly roll. I said, what hell no, and then
Speaker 5: from there just dancing, dancing, dancing.
Speaker 1: I was even big on when I got out of
Speaker 1: jail for.
Speaker 5: The for the BT Awards, when I had to when
Speaker 5: I when we came, I did loyal and I had to. Uh,
Speaker 5: this was when everybody's wearing for real hats. Yeah, like
Speaker 5: you know, the smoky the beer hat. But I remember
Speaker 5: having this outfit. I had to put the outfit on
Speaker 5: and it was like too small. The pants wouldn't fit.
Speaker 5: Like I was, I'm like a thirty four, thirty six.
Speaker 1: I was like a few thirty thirty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I was like a forty or some
Speaker 5: fordy I'm talking about big boy big. I said, hold on,
Speaker 5: you know what, I can't do this no more.
Speaker 1: But I was. I was.
Speaker 5: I had to go through a lot of boot camp,
Speaker 5: dancing and everything else to get back.
Speaker 1: But Nigga ship back though, yeah, because you was all right.
Speaker 6: It was terrible I'm telling you that's depressing time of
Speaker 6: my life.
Speaker 1: Bro. I Chris Brown, it was a Brown Brown. When
Speaker 1: did you really get into the business, like start owning
Speaker 1: the business of all of that, because that's what people
Speaker 1: really don't know about you. I think.
Speaker 6: I did that first.
Speaker 5: And I would be like I was seventeen when I
Speaker 5: started trying to invest in certain things just because I knew, like,
Speaker 5: you know, unless you torn, unless you like, you don't
Speaker 5: know how how long you're gonna be successful.
Speaker 6: And it's not like every artist can make it look.
Speaker 5: Like they getting money, getting money, getting my If you're
Speaker 5: not a touring act, if you're not doing stuff, you're
Speaker 5: not gonna you need an exit strategy. So I would have, like,
Speaker 5: you know, the business people around me at the time,
Speaker 5: I can't say they were good at the time, but
Speaker 5: you know, my investments were like into burger kings and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, just so I could have a portfolio
Speaker 5: of and you know, constant income.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: So that was my first step. But when I really
Speaker 5: started getting into like the music side, like the executive side,
Speaker 5: it was like I was twenty five, and what happened was, uh,
Speaker 5: Loyal and all these other records had already been been
Speaker 5: blowing up, so and I was out of my almost
Speaker 5: out of my contract, so I was able to negotiate.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, cool, well.
Speaker 5: Now that I have leverage as an actual not an artist,
Speaker 5: I don't want to be an artist.
Speaker 1: I want to be fifty to fifty profits shared with
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 6: I want to have the same deal birdman.
Speaker 5: I got universal, like you know, you know, I asked
Speaker 5: around trying to figure it out so I don't have
Speaker 5: to be getting you know, cents on the.
Speaker 1: Dollar, right, you know, just living off advances. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So from there that was my first step boom, and
Speaker 5: then I think they were like oh and then they
Speaker 5: kind of like, you know what, fuck it, we'll do it.
Speaker 5: I'm like, shit, damn, I'm like the youngest nigga with this,
Speaker 5: with this deal right here. I don't think nobody knows,
Speaker 5: you know. So that was my first step. Then after
Speaker 5: that was me trying to own my masters. So I
Speaker 5: think when I was like twenty seven or twenty eight,
Speaker 5: like by that time, it was a renegotiation time, and
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, cool, I still want this, but
Speaker 5: let me get my masters from here. From from I
Speaker 5: think from my fame albuming up, I said, let me
Speaker 5: get the Masters from there, and then I'm able to
Speaker 5: come back and negotiate, you know, in six years for
Speaker 5: the first album and all of my shit. So being
Speaker 5: able to have that type of structure deal like shout
Speaker 5: out the Mark Pits again, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Peter Edge, everybody that was you know, everybody that really
Speaker 5: kind of like looked and say, you know, we'll give
Speaker 5: them this deal.
Speaker 6: And Barry Rice, Barry Rice.
Speaker 5: Is like he put the shit down, like he really
Speaker 5: he the one that kind of allowed me to be like,
Speaker 5: you know what, here a fucking kid, take it.
Speaker 6: You got it?
Speaker 1: I mean, you had made them so much. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: let's let's also speak on it. Let's not let's not
Speaker 1: just breeze over that the fact that.
Speaker 2: You understood though, I got to prove myself first, because
Speaker 2: now we have these we have these new artists who
Speaker 2: come into the game thinking they can own the Masters,
Speaker 2: Like why would I let you have the Masters or
Speaker 2: why would you deserve your masters? In the beginning, if
Speaker 2: someone is actually making the initial investment and they're not worthing.
Speaker 2: So somebody walking into the door saying why I owe
Speaker 2: my masters. Okay, well what are you going to do
Speaker 2: with it? Do you know how to license it? Is
Speaker 2: there any distribution for it? And is it worth anything
Speaker 2: in the beginning? Right, so you were able to say, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: now I want from fame ongoing, and now I'll put
Speaker 2: myself in a position because I'll continue to be successful
Speaker 2: to come back again, renegotiate and get those initial albums
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: That's just smart business. And I think embedding on yourself.
Speaker 2: But I think people want to skip the steps and say,
Speaker 2: oh well this labeled like listen, labors are going to
Speaker 2: be what they are.
Speaker 1: Labors are going to be in their banks and that's
Speaker 1: what they do.
Speaker 2: But they also have infrastructure to put you in a
Speaker 2: place that's unimaginable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I don't disagree with that at all, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so I think you should be, for lack of
Speaker 2: a better term, a poster boy of like listen, just
Speaker 2: be successful, Just be great, You be great. You get
Speaker 2: everything you're supposed.
Speaker 1: To out of this ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and get the right lawyers. Make sure your lawyers
Speaker 5: is looking over your country. Yeah, and so you got
Speaker 5: to make sure everybody you know, when I was young,
Speaker 5: I was. I was fortunate enough to be saved on
Speaker 5: certain things, but I was my deals weren't always great.
Speaker 5: So once I was able to be able to be
Speaker 5: more independence, like, look, I got a little bit more
Speaker 5: leverage now, and they then, you know, they made all
Speaker 5: this money and all that.
Speaker 1: So I'm more like, you know, I'm.
Speaker 5: Able to now see real money or see something from
Speaker 5: what I've created because I know I created it. So
Speaker 5: now you know I can go and do this. Now
Speaker 5: I can create some more. Wait till you'll see what
Speaker 5: I'm about to create. So now I get to own
Speaker 5: all of that, you know. And and it's like like
Speaker 5: you said, I'm like a testament to that to hey,
Speaker 5: not saying put your head down, just be the best
Speaker 5: you right.
Speaker 1: I feel like the way I go to the gym
Speaker 1: is the way you go to the studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like that's what I said. Your me and
Speaker 2: green you should bench pressed. It's like, is there no
Speaker 2: no way limit though?
Speaker 6: Something?
Speaker 1: Get a good fifty off now.
Speaker 5: But even in my my meet and gree pictures, like
Speaker 5: there's some some joints and like sometimes you know what
Speaker 5: come on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know.
Speaker 6: It's like we can't do.
Speaker 1: Certain things try something else, I ain't get the same back.
Speaker 1: I got the picture.
Speaker 2: Listen already waiting for what these pictures are gonna look like. Man,
Speaker 2: you know shit is gonna be insane.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, here's a last question, bro, How do you
Speaker 1: do like eight thousand songs in one night? Bro? Like you,
Speaker 1: how is that even possible that you I come to
Speaker 1: your house and there are I just left your house
Speaker 1: two days ago and I come back and there are
Speaker 1: twenty new songs. How?
Speaker 5: I just feel like a lot of the times, you know,
Speaker 5: how I used to be in the studio back in
Speaker 5: the day. Even I'm like, yo, come.
Speaker 1: To the studio, Like, I just think you what did
Speaker 1: you call you? Master?
Speaker 5: Something that you spend more than one hundred hours on
Speaker 5: or something? So I think I've just tried to overly, overly,
Speaker 5: overly overly master it. So me being in the studio,
Speaker 5: like I might have an idea in my head, or
Speaker 5: I might just hear some songs like, man, I need
Speaker 5: to get on my game.
Speaker 1: I need to steal.
Speaker 5: It's like shooting jump shots, like you know, you gotta
Speaker 5: make sure if you don't, if you don't shop at
Speaker 5: the tube, it ain't gonna work. So I feel like
Speaker 5: me being in the studio is where I kind of live.
Speaker 5: I got two studios, you see the house. I got
Speaker 5: two studios in the house, so so I can change scene,
Speaker 5: real change, like you know, mental states when I'm in
Speaker 5: different studios.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that you're making the amount of songs
Speaker 1: that the underdogs, all of us in different rooms, used
Speaker 1: to make. It was it was six of us, and
Speaker 1: he's still making more than just wanting. We were making
Speaker 1: money at night.
Speaker 2: We weren't writing twenty songs at night.
Speaker 1: You got it. You gotta how many times you have?
Speaker 1: I said before like fifteen thousands.
Speaker 5: But then but then I think I miscalculated, you know,
Speaker 5: So it's it's a world champlainship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was that was I think I was thinking
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I got this, yeah a lot of
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna be realistic and it's it's in the
Speaker 5: eight thousands to nine thousands, though it's a lot, like like.
Speaker 1: It's finished or just pieces.
Speaker 6: I can say pieces, it won't it won't be.
Speaker 5: It might be first verse, cause you know how I
Speaker 5: used to send demos out to be first verse or
Speaker 5: chorse and then no second verse. So it'll be stuff
Speaker 5: like that, So it's like, yeah, collectively, is that a.
Speaker 1: Lot of that's insane? Bro mm hmmm, what you got
Speaker 1: for him Champion?
Speaker 2: H m hm.
Speaker 1: Come on, comfy Tea, say what you got? You see
Speaker 1: you see his fitty comfy shout out exclusive game. Come on,
Speaker 1: comfy Tea, turn these towels into an outfit. It's the
Speaker 1: Superman music. No, it's not. We don't want to be
Speaker 1: to the remix team Breezy want to know what they
Speaker 1: want to know what we want to know. You've listened
Speaker 1: to a lot of music in your days, young man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of this music you've made your favorite. The world
Speaker 1: wants to know.
Speaker 3: Your top five, your top five, top five.
Speaker 1: Your top five? RB saying what else you already song?
Speaker 1: We allna know you gotta show. I'm dancing to go.
Speaker 1: I'm really want to know your heyes, top.
Speaker 2: You top five?
Speaker 9: Yeah, y'all gonna put me on the spot.
Speaker 6: Yah, it's so damn all to pick five, but look,
Speaker 6: I'll give you now. My ship might change in a
Speaker 6: couple of days. Come on, Top five R and B singers.
Speaker 1: Right right now. Today you're saying today, No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying how you feel today? Your world. So this is
Speaker 1: not biased because my brother in the room. You know,
Speaker 1: I say it all the time.
Speaker 5: Tank Usher, Yes, Brandy Yeah, Tevin Campbell ye, Sam Cook Ship.
Speaker 1: So that's my top five I.
Speaker 6: Can think of right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, alright, Vin was really cold. Listen tomorrow, whatever better?
Speaker 1: Are you better than me? He was? He was killing
Speaker 1: grown men. Prodigy, he's a prodigy, his rangers, he was
Speaker 1: gifted chess boys. Oh my god, nigga, how do you
Speaker 1: still sing that high? I'll get my nerves he'd be
Speaker 1: giving me. So I was like, bro, you can sing
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's just like the adrenaline when you
Speaker 1: get on stage. It's like but talking voices not My
Speaker 1: talking voice is raspy, like I gotta, I gotta. But
Speaker 1: you're clear on records. Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm just always I guess we sing from different parts
Speaker 5: when we When I talk, I don't think I'm talking
Speaker 5: from the same diaphragm is when I'm singing, So I'm
Speaker 5: pushing the air differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I feel like that's why I'm able to still
Speaker 5: sound young and still sound like the old met but
Speaker 5: not the super young me, not the fifteen. But at
Speaker 5: least I said, my voice hasn't like changed dramatics.
Speaker 1: Like Nigga You and Ralph treast Man. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: not sound figured it out now. I listened to the
Speaker 1: Young Thing. I was like this, who is this? Was
Speaker 1: this singing three five song? Crazy? They like sing that
Speaker 1: old song. I will not breezy your top five R
Speaker 1: and B songs.
Speaker 5: Oh, this is gonna be difficult, brother, Break My Hair
Speaker 5: by Mario Ship, Heirl, Lily Girl, Lily, Somebody Sleeping.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the remix them so so differently.
Speaker 5: Okay, Damn Oh, Sex Love and Pain that's you know, yes,
Speaker 5: the beginning, the intro, the intro from Yes that.
Speaker 1: He never does live, He's do it live. You don't
Speaker 1: give don't give him the ship though, Bro.
Speaker 5: I listened to that, but when I was on tour,
Speaker 5: any any tour I was on, I would listen to
Speaker 5: that as my warm up songs.
Speaker 2: But seeing you, I need you right now. I need
Speaker 2: you right now, my brother. I need you on my
Speaker 2: team to tell him to do the damn sound even
Speaker 2: the song. I need him to do the Sex Love
Speaker 2: and Pain album one Night Only.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got at least you gotta give him that
Speaker 5: because that's my favorite album.
Speaker 6: One Night Only, don't be scared.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. Let's do that, one of those, one
Speaker 1: of them type of inn you fact a right, One
Speaker 1: night Only.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think that's three songs. I gotta think
Speaker 5: it two more now, this is all this subject to
Speaker 5: change now, sup?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 6: Superstar US Superstar right?
Speaker 1: And and Candy Rain so.
Speaker 11: For yeah, so yeah, shout out to Soul for real. God,
Speaker 11: you know, I'm like, we need so for real.
Speaker 5: But it's so difficult for me to come up with
Speaker 5: those five songs. And I had like ten other songs.
Speaker 1: Like a combo of so many are like four thousands,
Speaker 1: eight thousands. Yeah, and I didn't want to add my
Speaker 1: songs in it. I wanted to get everybody to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you have a favorite Chris Brown song?
Speaker 6: SHP No, I have errors, I have, I have I
Speaker 6: have times of when I when I like songs.
Speaker 1: Man, this niggas is poor in Champagne.
Speaker 2: You got some Champagne, I told you, yeah, breaking Eras
Speaker 2: niggas breaking his own rest.
Speaker 5: I think Eras is like certain songs that I what
Speaker 5: I was going through at certain times, like damn, like
Speaker 5: like how you like no bullshit.
Speaker 6: For example, that era of no Bullshit and and Deuces
Speaker 6: those songs.
Speaker 5: When we did those songs, that was like when I
Speaker 5: was at my lowest, Like I was like with the
Speaker 5: back back against the wall, like no no support from
Speaker 5: the label, no support from radio.
Speaker 1: They was like, you know what, we ain't fucking with you, mixtape,
Speaker 1: You're canceled.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so these songs are mixtape songs that out ten
Speaker 5: months before we put them on on that album.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So and I'm I'm shot
Speaker 1: the video for like twenty five hundred.
Speaker 6: Each video Deduces video and no bullshit.
Speaker 5: But it was it was like being an independent artist
Speaker 5: and grinding your motherfucker yourself being like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna prove them wrong. So I could say those
Speaker 5: songs would be an error, and then then it could
Speaker 5: be the next songs that I'm doing. So it switches
Speaker 5: all the time. Yeah, you know, I feel like I
Speaker 5: can always go back to different songs and then relive
Speaker 5: those moments in my head and be like damn that happened,
Speaker 5: and also remind myself like damn, I do remember that,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: So it's spilled your voltron you're super R and B artists,
Speaker 1: we want to know who you're going to get the
Speaker 1: vocal from, the performance style, the styling, from the heart
Speaker 1: of the artist, the passion of the artists. And since
Speaker 1: you know, since you're a songwriter, who's gonna write for
Speaker 1: that artist, Let's start with the vocal. Who you're getting
Speaker 1: the vocal from for your super R and B artists?
Speaker 1: The vocal.
Speaker 6: Damn, I'm gonna go with Tavin Campbell.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just put as far as the as far
Speaker 5: as the vocal, yeah, like the range or what you Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going with Tevan.
Speaker 1: Your voice his voice is different. His voice was just cold.
Speaker 1: Wasn't supposed to be like that? No, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go I'm gonna go with the voice wise. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: between him and Mike, because Mike, just pick one or
Speaker 1: you can mix it.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's gonna be like a hybrid. It's gonna be
Speaker 6: Mike and Tevan Jackson.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, performing style on stage Michael Jackson. I could
Speaker 1: have guessed down. Yeah, that was easy. Yeah, Okay, styling,
Speaker 1: who's gonna put this ship?
Speaker 5: Damn Uh, It's gonna be a hybrid, another hybrid. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be like a trifecta hybrid Michael me and and
Speaker 5: usher mm hmm. As far as styling, and I gotta
Speaker 5: say in this in this category because like and through
Speaker 5: his erarors, from the my Ways to the you know,
Speaker 5: everything he'd done has has been visually like stamped in
Speaker 5: your head to where.
Speaker 6: It's picnic iconic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He made niggas wear coofies and ship like you remember,
Speaker 5: So it's like certain things will always be embedded in
Speaker 5: style and fragments to me. So it's like Michael was
Speaker 5: the definition of that, Like he could wear wrestling looking yeah,
Speaker 5: like being his own icon.
Speaker 1: I think when we talk about styling, not even to
Speaker 1: stop you here, but I think you're the first person,
Speaker 1: the first artist that I've ever walked into the room
Speaker 1: to the dressing room and they were like the racks.
Speaker 1: There were racks on racks on racks of clothes and
Speaker 1: you had no idea what you were going to put
Speaker 1: on like that night. You don't you don't have a
Speaker 1: uniform where you're like, Okay, this is the tour fit
Speaker 1: and these are the combinations of the tour fit. That's
Speaker 1: just where this I was like, what are you gonna wear.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, I'm about to look through it
Speaker 1: right now, like he getting dressed in school, like like
Speaker 1: he getting dressed in markets. Let me just grab somebody.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that in my life.
Speaker 6: So what I've done the last couple of tours and
Speaker 6: this tour is gonna be a little different.
Speaker 5: So we have a set to where because I don't
Speaker 5: want to give too much, I want you to come
Speaker 5: and see it, but I'm going to have changes in
Speaker 5: the outfice. But the outfits is going to be more customized,
Speaker 5: like a lot of like designers are making specific stuff
Speaker 5: for me, so it'll be more So it goes along
Speaker 5: with the with the actual show of what I'm trying
Speaker 5: to show, like the Broadway style of what I'm trying
Speaker 5: to show, but before like the last toy you were
Speaker 5: at and.
Speaker 6: The different ones.
Speaker 1: The stage that I built is you can change your
Speaker 1: outfit every night.
Speaker 5: You could be something different because the stage doesn't it
Speaker 5: doesn't have a certain Yeah, it has a freedom about it.
Speaker 5: So we just have a rack of clothes and long
Speaker 5: as long as I can dance in them and it's
Speaker 5: not not too tight or the shirts is like you know,
Speaker 5: I'm putting on something different every night.
Speaker 1: I always think of behind the things. I'll be thinking
Speaker 1: about the nigga that has.
Speaker 2: To put all that out and put off, and he
Speaker 2: be trying to figure out a way to steal some ship.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm ahead that fits. Yeah, always comes back
Speaker 1: with something.
Speaker 6: Because this is not afraid to ask, because look that's you.
Speaker 1: Like, look, little bro, you already want to you can
Speaker 1: take you can take it. I'm like shot a hole
Speaker 1: that jacket. Like ship, the passion of the artist, passionate.
Speaker 5: The artist, prince I would say prince cold passion because
Speaker 5: you can play every instrument right and mean it?
Speaker 1: Man, what mean it? They come, get this hit? Get
Speaker 1: this hit? Who who says that?
Speaker 5: Like I would have been like that, I'm keeping this record.
Speaker 5: You don't want this record? No, he he he he
Speaker 5: s is the ship threasion.
Speaker 1: You start doing that. You got a gang here, regulars
Speaker 1: telling niggas that get this song. Who's gonna write for
Speaker 1: that artist? Damn, there's so many damn good writers.
Speaker 6: Who's gonna write?
Speaker 5: I would I couldn't say Phil Collins because it wouldn't
Speaker 5: be cool because Phil Collins is one of my like,
Speaker 5: he's one of the dope writers out.
Speaker 1: Of all time. Why can't Phield Collins write the records? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Phil could do it, but I would say
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no argument. Yeah, I was just I'm
Speaker 2: gonna thay curveball though. Yeah, who's gonna do the choreography?
Speaker 6: Damn?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, use a stepper, Use a real deal stepper.
Speaker 1: You know what it would have to be. It would
Speaker 1: have to be a collective because in that dancing ships, so.
Speaker 5: Many Come on, come on, so many people who made
Speaker 5: you know, I'm talking about fly fly styles, SAMs, Josh Smith.
Speaker 6: We got Lavel?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Is it label Franklin who he taught me a thriller?
Speaker 5: His name is Lavel, but he takes that. Yeah, world
Speaker 5: music wars when I was young. Sorry I'm forgetting his
Speaker 5: last name. But you got super Damn you got man.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I don't did this on purpose to give me. I'm
Speaker 1: not even trying to get you. This is what our
Speaker 1: podcast is about. Podcast is about Jamaica. I'm thinking to
Speaker 1: him still, It's about celebrating.
Speaker 2: It's about celebrating people that aren't always celebrated publicly.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, who means so much to what we do
Speaker 1: and has have meant so much to what you do
Speaker 1: because they go they shaped and that ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. So I mean there's so many
Speaker 5: different people that that I'm leaving out too. So I
Speaker 5: know they're like, man, he didn't say my name.
Speaker 1: My bad.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: At the same time, it would be with that damn ship.
Speaker 5: It would have to be a collective group. It still
Speaker 5: makes It's a village that make.
Speaker 1: It, you know, take a village to crazy. Yeah. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've come to the point. I ain't saying no names. Hey,
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. Thanks saying no names. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying no niggs. Weird know what you did? Don't
Speaker 1: say she ain't saying no name, no name?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 1: Cool? Hold hold on, I got to listen to like, okay,
Speaker 1: this sounds like I got to say some funny she
Speaker 1: to give you.
Speaker 2: Exactly right now, you are at a very important part
Speaker 2: of the show. Yeah, it's called I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 2: Will you tell us a story funny or funked up?
Speaker 2: Are funny?
Speaker 1: And fuck? The only rule to the game. The rules
Speaker 1: is you can't say no names. All right?
Speaker 6: Cool? Well, I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, come on.
Speaker 5: But yeah, So there was this artist, and this artist
Speaker 5: wanted to go out to the club with us, so,
Speaker 5: you know, huge artists. So I'm like, all right, cool, me,
Speaker 5: me and my crib, We're gonna go to the club.
Speaker 5: It's it's nigga night, it's turn up night. You know
Speaker 5: it's gonna be another artist in their performing. And that
Speaker 5: artist song was the number one song in the country.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about going crazy.
Speaker 6: We get in the club, I make sure we got
Speaker 6: the whole section full of women. So the person in
Speaker 6: there looking around.
Speaker 1: The song.
Speaker 5: Come on, the other artist is on stage, start singing
Speaker 5: a song. The whole building erupts. I'm talking about it, erupts,
Speaker 5: like everybody. Girls in our section, Girl, they going crazy.
Speaker 1: I look over to this person. He ain't feeling it.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about, not a smirk, not a head nod, nothing.
Speaker 5: I turned back to look at the artists. But the
Speaker 5: next time I turned back to look at the person
Speaker 5: in my section, they gone, I don't see him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what that? What is nigga? Went?
Speaker 6: I look up.
Speaker 5: The nigga is on the DJ booth right next to
Speaker 5: the artist that's doing the song, and he just like this.
Speaker 1: The nigga.
Speaker 5: When the song goes off, the nigga takes the mic,
Speaker 5: takes the mic. So I'm thinking this artist is about
Speaker 5: to do some songs. I'm like, okay, he got he
Speaker 5: got the itch like man, you know, you know some
Speaker 5: artists can't take it.
Speaker 6: You know, they self centered though they you know, they
Speaker 6: gotta syndrome. Like I'm not one of those. I know
Speaker 6: how to be like, oh this is lit here, but
Speaker 6: I can read it all over this person's face. Get
Speaker 6: the mic.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he about to do it songs or do something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is crazy about to go crazy here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the nigga goes on a forty five minute rent
Speaker 5: I'm talking about talking. I'm talking about saying all of
Speaker 5: everything that about nothing.
Speaker 6: It's like it's it's so just like disappointing.
Speaker 5: Like when I was in there, I started looking around
Speaker 5: and then from the club being a yeah, everybody turning up,
Speaker 5: maybe hollers some girls, what's up, it went from that
Speaker 5: to looking like the waiting room in Hell.
Speaker 1: That's what I felt like.
Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, like everybody turned into psychopath people.
Speaker 5: And he was not saying you know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: the topic of what his rent was about was was like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck put the music back on? Like that's
Speaker 5: you know, that's how I feel. So in that club,
Speaker 5: there's a there's a secret area that's like a resting area.
Speaker 5: You can go down at the club, so I said,
Speaker 5: I told one of the hummies, I can't. I don't
Speaker 5: want to sit up here and hear this shit all night.
Speaker 5: So I'm going downstairs. I'ma cheer. I'm gonna smoke this
Speaker 5: blunt downstairs. Whatever we doing, boom boom, and by this
Speaker 5: nigga gonna stop talking too later, so you know, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go back up there afterwards. I'm down that motherfucker
Speaker 5: for about twenty to thirty minutes and are you still here?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 5: Right right right right right over the over the this
Speaker 5: last hit, it took over the club. This is how
Speaker 5: it ended for me, anyway. So I get up back
Speaker 5: into the section. Half of the girls is gone, most
Speaker 5: of most of the most of the fine girl.
Speaker 1: They yeah, I'm like, man, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 6: The last thing I hear such and such ain't stick.
Speaker 1: They figure in my booty. I don't even play that.
Speaker 5: Way, I said, Yeah, I'm out this motherfucker. Look and
Speaker 5: I look to our mutual friend that was there, was there.
Speaker 5: I said, you gotta be a nigga and stop letting
Speaker 5: this niggas be like this. Your ays need to be
Speaker 5: able to tell your friends. Stop being a yes man.
Speaker 5: You need to be like, look, nigga, this ain't it.
Speaker 5: You don't say this type of shit. And I left
Speaker 5: the club.
Speaker 6: I ain't even.
Speaker 1: Answer no phone calls. I ain't going home.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna say no names.
Speaker 1: Yeah uk whoever was in that club though they like
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 3: I was there in the come, I was there.
Speaker 1: The finger No no, not each other.
Speaker 2: Love brother, Chris brown Man. When I say we you
Speaker 2: even it's another thank you. I got to give you
Speaker 2: one for always keeping your word. Something you've always done
Speaker 2: from the day I've met you. If you say you're
Speaker 2: gonna do something.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do it. Yeah. You might be late, yeah
Speaker 1: a little late, but you know, oh shit happens.
Speaker 2: But you always do what you say you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: And I want to thank you for. At the time,
Speaker 2: I was managing the artist named Love Rants and there
Speaker 2: was this record that we had and I had this
Speaker 2: crazy idea to turn this rap record into an R
Speaker 2: and B song. You heard it and you was like, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm coming to do it tomorrow. Yeah, and you put
Speaker 2: up in your fast car, you knock the shit out,
Speaker 2: and this record has lived on to this day. I
Speaker 2: cannot go to a club. It's still I'm going to
Speaker 2: hear the R and B version of up to this day.
Speaker 2: Nigga sending me videos from France, sending me video on Japan,
Speaker 2: anywhere in the world, and the fact that you obviously
Speaker 2: you did that for me because we're brothers, but the
Speaker 2: fact that you were able to help me make this
Speaker 2: record that came from the bed area and my young
Speaker 2: boys had had this song and it was blown up
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 1: Helped them take the record worldwide. Yeah, I just want
Speaker 1: to say thank you, No, thank you. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 6: No, I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: See I'm bad with thank you. Like when people think
Speaker 5: me become like bro ship you help me all the
Speaker 5: same in the same token. I look at it like
Speaker 5: like if you would have called and if it was
Speaker 5: a Wax.
Speaker 6: Song, we would be like, let's try a different record.
Speaker 5: But it's like, you know what what a song gonna do,
Speaker 5: And then at the same time, it's even easier when
Speaker 5: it's when it's like family. When you got people that's
Speaker 5: around you that are musically gifted and they do the
Speaker 5: same thing you do. It's not a conversation like nah,
Speaker 5: I can't really do it, or no, I'm here whatever
Speaker 5: you need.
Speaker 1: You know, So I appreciate y'all. Bro. I am upset
Speaker 1: that this song was was on fire, super flames, right,
Speaker 1: and this nigga wouldn't go nowhere.
Speaker 2: And performance, or I was becoming your manager. I don't
Speaker 2: that ship he was. He was he was behind the
Speaker 2: scenes and it was promoters offering him the best.
Speaker 1: We had some other ship we had to do though. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look at us now, Look at us now?
Speaker 1: You got records now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they be lonely? What the fuck is we doing?
Speaker 5: I under saying, y'all know me and this nigga got
Speaker 5: a record again.
Speaker 1: It's all right, it's so way. Let y'all know that
Speaker 1: we got a record. Thank you again. Listen, brother to
Speaker 1: say we love you would be an understatement. You already
Speaker 1: know what that means. My brothers. We don't play no
Speaker 1: games about Breezy. You know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: in real life. That's not that's not music, that's not entertainment.
Speaker 1: That's that's real life, in real life. And so I
Speaker 1: think people have known by you know, all the times
Speaker 1: I've jumped in the in the comments to make sure
Speaker 1: fuck you niggas up you fuck around with the fuck
Speaker 1: around yeah alone. But my congratulations to you man for
Speaker 1: continuing to work hard, bro. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: the separation between you and everybody that you've probably seen
Speaker 1: from the last twenty something years come and go. You
Speaker 1: just won't stop working. And and that is commendable with
Speaker 1: the success that you've had, that you are still aspiring
Speaker 1: and still pushing to do more and to be greater.
Speaker 1: Like if if if I'm telling my son to chase
Speaker 1: anything saying you watch Chris Brown, you watch that journey
Speaker 1: and you watch him work, and that's how you work,
Speaker 1: and that's how you find it. We appreciate you man. Listen, man,
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