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Speaker 1: on the podcast now we're going to talk with Alex Stone.

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Speaker 1: This is making headlines all over the world after it

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Speaker 1: became clear that Nathan Hockman doesn't have a whole a

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Speaker 1: what Alex Stone from ABC News is going to talk

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Speaker 1: about here. Hey there, John, Yeah, today the door may

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Speaker 1: But he's asking the California Parole Board to do a

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Speaker 2: He explained what he's doing. You put it like this.

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Speaker 3: The question for the board is a rather simple one.

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Speaker 1: So this comes to the brothers. They're going to go

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Speaker 1: They're resentencing hearing that was delayed from December to January.

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Speaker 1: Newsom could make the decision, or nobody might lead them out.

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Speaker 2: They murdered their parents, shotgun them to death.

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Speaker 1: That that sexual assault is not a defense for a

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Speaker 1: you can only submit five photos for MANGIONI to look at.

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Speaker 2: And I'm did you see the photo?

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Speaker 1: Well, did you see the group of women who were

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Speaker 1: You could see why they'd be so lonely that they're

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that ladies and gentlemen, Okay, don't be

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand, like the psychological type. Here, you

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't understand that. I don't understand that either.

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Speaker 1: Squeaky Frome. I just remember seeing her photo.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know, all.

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Speaker 1: Do you know there is an assembly man out of

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So that means that somebody breaks into your house

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: This was his bill, yes, and now he's trying to

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start running. He's got to delete this bill.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk this over right, and if I use force

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's all.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's another thing I would bring up.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how do these why do these people

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Speaker 4: that this bill is okay?

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Speaker 1: After we kicked out Gascon, we passed Prop thirty six,

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Speaker 1: and now this guy wants to take away our right

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Speaker 1: to kill an intruder.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's see what would happen if an intruder comes

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Speaker 4: to his house. Is he gonna go and sit and

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Speaker 4: let's have some coffee and let's talk about this point.

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Speaker 4: The gun away from my face.

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Speaker 1: Please, that's right, sit down, Let's have some tea. I

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Speaker 1: don't really like that gun under my jaw there.

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Speaker 2: Would you?

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, uh shemblyman Tom Lackey from Palmdale.

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Speaker 1: You see, you have normal people in Palmdale and they

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Speaker 1: own guns. They know how to deal with bad guys.

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Speaker 1: Because you have the government putting a multiple rapist in

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Whatever happened to the Pillowcase rapist? Was he

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Speaker 1: put into the house in Juniper Hills. Yet some manly

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Speaker 1: in time Lackie said, this bill is a complete assault

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Speaker 1: on self defense. Imagine this, a violent criminal breaks into

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Speaker 1: your home and you have to second guess whether defending

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Speaker 1: your family is justifiable. This misguided energy behind the proposal

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Speaker 1: is beyond comprehension. Now he's saying the bill wasn't intended

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Speaker 1: to limit self defense.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes it was. Are you insane? It says in

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Speaker 2: the bill.

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Speaker 1: When you're outside of your residence and you knew that

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Speaker 1: using force would likely cause death a great bodily injury

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Speaker 1: if it could have been avoided with complete safety by retreating,

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Speaker 1: that is an impossible concept to accurately analyze. In the

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Speaker 1: moment you cannot determine whether you are retreating fast enough,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna end up in complete safety, especially if

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Speaker 1: the guy keeps chasing you.

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Speaker 2: Why do you.

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Speaker 1: Give Why do they give rights to people who want

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Speaker 1: to kill you and who want to rob you, who

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Speaker 1: are psychotic, who've been dumped out of prison by idiot

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Speaker 1: politicians like Rick Zebber?

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Speaker 2: What the f? I mean? What is this? You can't

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Speaker 2: defend yourself.

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Speaker 4: Because you don't know if the bad person is really

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Speaker 4: gonna hurt you, is really gonna hurt your family. I mean,

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Speaker 4: maybe they'll shoot you in the leg, but you'll survive.

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Speaker 4: So it's not fair if you shoot the guy in

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Speaker 4: the heart and he dies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be penalized because you're a good shot.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy and the person used more forced than

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Speaker 1: was reasonably necessary to defend against the danger. How could

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Speaker 1: you possibly calculate that by time there is a trial,

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Speaker 1: it could be a year later and you and the

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Speaker 1: bad guy in the dark, and you're gonna have people

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Speaker 1: who weren't there try to tell you that they've assessed

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Speaker 1: that well, that was unreasonable force, unnecessary defense. You could

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Speaker 1: have retreated. I he's dangerous. This this I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's voting for this, Beverly Hills, Westwood, Santa Monica, Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: wilk Land.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're my people. I live with these people.

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Speaker 1: All these people have spent thousands of dollars on private

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Speaker 1: security patrols, private security guards. A lot of them have

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Speaker 1: guns now, and they elect the guy who say, hey,

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Speaker 1: guy comes down to your property. You know you're taking

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Speaker 1: a chance. If you should at him, we might put

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Speaker 1: you in prison. You were going to go to prison.

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Speaker 1: We will follow up on this.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 1: We are in a state where we have idiot politicians

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Speaker 1: who allow criminals to run free and break into our

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Speaker 1: homes and kill us. And now we have this Rick

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Speaker 1: Zibber from Los Angeles, from Santa Monica, Beverly Hills and

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Speaker 1: Hollywood and Westwood. That's who he represents, rich people, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know the rich people have stocked up on

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Speaker 1: weapons because they haven't enforced any laws for years here

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Speaker 1: in La County and in La City, and so he

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Speaker 1: wants to get rid of the concept of justifile homicide.

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Speaker 1: There's such a disconnect between what's going on and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country in here. I ran across a

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Speaker 1: pulled today from Harvard Harris. That's a polling company, and

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Speaker 1: they ask questions to find out how much support there

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Speaker 1: is for a lot of Trump and Elon Musk policies.

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Speaker 1: And so this is what it's like in the real world.

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Speaker 1: Do you support or oppose deporting immigrants who are here

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Speaker 1: illegally and have committed crimes? Eighty one percent support deportation

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Speaker 1: eighty one percent, including ninety two percent of Republicans, eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of Independents, and seventy percent of Democrats. They want

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens deported. Karen Baths want gives them sanctuary, so

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Speaker 1: does Gavin Newsom. Do you support or oppose undertaking a

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Speaker 1: full scale effort to find and eliminate fraud and waste

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Speaker 1: in government in government spending? Look at that seventy six

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Speaker 1: percent support a full scale effort to find and eliminate

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Speaker 1: fraud and waste, ninety percent of Republicans, seventy four percent

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Speaker 1: of independence and sixty two percent of Democrats, overwhelming majorities

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Speaker 1: for deporting illegal aliens and finding all the.

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Speaker 2: Waste in fraud.

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Speaker 1: Do you support or oppose closing the border with added

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Speaker 1: security and discouraging illegal crossing. Seventy six percent support banning

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Speaker 1: men who've undergone operations and hormones to become women, banning

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Speaker 1: them from girls' sports. Sixty nine percent support banning them.

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Speaker 1: Declaring that there are only two genders, male and female,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight percent support. I could go on, which you

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Speaker 1: get the idea? That's the other forty United States, and

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Speaker 1: we have Rick Zeburr running around trying to make self

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Speaker 1: defense against a burglar illegal. You can't defend yourself against

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Speaker 1: a guy on your property trying to harm you, steal

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Speaker 1: your stuff, all right, conways here, so sixty eight percent

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Speaker 1: say there's only men and women yale and female?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 6: What was the other thirty two percent saying I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I like to they think they are extra categories. Oh

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Speaker 6: I see, okay, all right, alternate categories.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: Life was a leisure when I was growing up. Now,

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Speaker 6: you wouldn't even talk about it. Never you mentioned how

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Speaker 6: many sex is that?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 6: It was a golden age, yeah, just no one even

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Speaker 6: talked about it, no ever, all right, but you questioned it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, Maybe we should have Maybe we should

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Speaker 6: have all been happier, you know, John Decker's coming out

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Speaker 6: with his White House correspondent for iHeart Media. That guy's great,

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Speaker 6: he's in the White House. We'll get the Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: had his very first cabinet meeting with all his cabinet members.

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Speaker 6: Find out how that went. And then we have the

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Speaker 6: owner of Boney Island. It's a tree house that the

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Speaker 6: city is wanting to take down in Sherman Oaks. It's

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Speaker 6: a really cool hang. We'll talk to Rick, the guy

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Speaker 6: who owns it. And then we have the uh oh,

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Speaker 6: the founder and the and the owner of Pacific Sport Fishing.

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Speaker 6: We've got a big sport fishing. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: into sport fishing you are, but I love it. And

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Speaker 6: then doctor Rakah Sherry at six o'clock and we are loaded.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about measles and the flu. He's a world

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Speaker 6: class pomonologist. John I've heard. Yeah, take dog with that doctor.

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Speaker 6: He's great. He's great.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, coming up, Yeah, that'll be in moments

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Speaker 1: from now. When you say you're loaded, does that ye

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Speaker 1: have a lot on the show, it means I've had

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Speaker 1: I've had a long lune.

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Speaker 2: You're really loaded.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Coroz's got the news live in the KFI twenty

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Speaker 1: four Hour News. Hey, you've been listening to the John

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Speaker 1: Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live

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Speaker 1: on KFI Am six forty from one to four pm

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Speaker 1: every Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand

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