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Speaker 1: to Tom in New Jersey. This is our first full

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Speaker 1: Good sir? What's going on? I think? But what I

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Speaker 1: gonna be like you just walked into a shop, you know,

426
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Speaker 1: around the corner from you that has eight bays in it.

427
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, obviously there's a benefit, right

428
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Attendees are gonna go in, they're gonna learn about these

429
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: new products and stuff. When when the industry is sitting

430
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: home Thanksgiving alright, three weeks after this, and they're sitting

431
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: around the table thinking about November and and so forth,

432
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: what do you think they're gonna say, Hey, I learned

433
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: this at APEX. What are they gonna walk away from

434
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: this show remembering, you know, we've got so many So

435
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: we really dedicated a huge chunk of our show now

436
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: to making sure that the repair shops and and everybody

437
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: who works in a repair shop. We've got sessions now

438
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: for service advisors, for the front counterfolks, We've got sessions

439
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: for the technicians. We've got sessions for the shop owners.

440
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 1: The idea is that when you go home to three

441
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: weeks later, you come back to your shop, you sit

442
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: down at Thanksgiving table, and they say, what did you

443
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: learn in Vegas? I learned how my business can run

444
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: more efficiently. I learned how to be a better salesperson.

445
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: I learned how to you know, work more efficiently if

446
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: it's a technician, or I learned how to do this

447
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: new job that I didn't know how to do. And

448
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I got to see all of these new products that

449
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: are gonna be hitting my shop. And hitting the industry

450
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: in the next year, so that when it comes down

451
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: and it hits me, it's not brand new. I've seen

452
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: it already. I know who to talk to if I

453
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: have questions about it, I know how to operate it.

454
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: I got to learn from the best people already. That's

455
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: really what we're looking for is to make sure that

456
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: the people who are using every one of these products

457
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, gets educated on how

458
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: to do it and can be better at doing it

459
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: to keep their customers happy as we move forward. And

460
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: if you're just tuning in, you're listening to Mark mark Danski.

461
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: He's the vice president of Events for the Autocare Association.

462
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: He's here with us today talking about apex Um Mark

463
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: some of the featured companies and products. You know, what's

464
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: going to happen at this show. You know, who are

465
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: some of the big names that are going to be

466
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: there and some of the little names too. What can

467
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: the attendees look forward to, you know, actually seeing specific

468
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: product and brand sure, you know, we've got a ton

469
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: of AIDS companies now. You know attell is actually gonna

470
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: be in Joe's garage showing some ads technology, bolt on technology,

471
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: is coming in and doing a lot of stuff with

472
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: their UH lubricants and fluids. We've got coats, the tire

473
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: company showing all the new things. NAPPA Autocare Center for

474
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: the first time is going to have a huge NAPA

475
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: Autocare experience right on the show floor where people can

476
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: come in and learn about what it would be like

477
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: to be working with the NAPA Autocare Center um. And

478
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: then you know, all of the major companies that people

479
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: have gotten used to seeing over the years, Drive and

480
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: Denzo and Scheffler, Mala, all of those companies are going

481
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: to be there showcasing. You know, this is the first

482
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: time in two years that these companies are going to

483
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: be getting together with their buyers, the first time that

484
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: these companies are gonna be able to actually talk to

485
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: the end users in two years. They are so excited

486
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: about the opportunity to see and talk to these people

487
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: again and figure out what that next step is and

488
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: what they have to do next. You know, ZF has

489
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of new products coming out this year that

490
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: we haven't seen before. They we're really excited about. So

491
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on, And you know,

492
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: when you think about the fact that we have. You know,

493
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: we're all gotten used to living at home for eighteen months,

494
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: and even though our industry has been essential and has

495
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: been working the whole time, we haven't gotten a chance

496
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: to really meet as an industry and network as an industry.

497
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna be a huge part of

498
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: what goes on in a couple of weeks. Yeah, that's

499
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: and you know what that's it's the community that I

500
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: think we all miss, and it's you know, we've all

501
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: been so cooped up for so long, and it's a problem.

502
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, it sounds really good. You know,

503
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: I got this problem. I'd be there, but as I

504
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: said to you before, my daughter is getting married, I

505
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: should probably be at the wedding. Uh. Yeah, you know

506
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: there there are times when you have a good excuse

507
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: not to comrade. They would miss me. Uh, they probably

508
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: noticed I wasn't there. So hey, Mark, where can the

509
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: listeners go get more information before I let you go?

510
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, for for this and maybe a little bit

511
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: about the Autocare Association. If anybody's interested uma enlighten us

512
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: for the show, you go to apex show dot com.

513
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: It's a a p e X show dot com again.

514
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: The show is November two to the fourth. And the

515
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: auto care industry, you know, Auto Care Association. We handle

516
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: everything for this industry from the manufacturers down to the mechanics,

517
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: soup to nuts. Autocare dot org there's a great resources

518
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: there for you to learn more about what you can

519
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: do to get involved, and how we're helping the entire

520
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: industry and and everything quite honestly that we've done in

521
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: the last eighteen months during the pandemic to make sure

522
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: that this industry could keep moving forward while everybody else

523
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: was kind of hold up in their house for a while.

524
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: So autocare dot org is a huge good deal. Hey, Mark,

525
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. I appreciate you taking the time today

526
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: and you have a great show. You have a great

527
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: time out there in Apex. All right, sir, thanks and

528
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: we look forward to you coming out next year. Okay,

529
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: you got a deal. I'll talk to you soon. Mark,

530
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: take good care. I'm ronan Ady and the Car Doctor.

531
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: We are back right after this. Don't go away. UM,

532
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: welcome back. Name of the car Doctor. Let's u. Let's

533
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: let's clear up a few things real quick, Tom before

534
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: we grab the phone. UM coming up. This was it

535
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: two weeks. UM number twelve through the fourteenth of Virginia

536
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Beach Convention Center of the Coastal Virginia Auto Show is

537
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and we're sorry we're not gonna be there

538
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: this year. I've got a wedding to go to, as

539
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, Tom, and I figured that's probably more important.

540
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I walked my daughter down the aisle, So we're gonna

541
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: look forward to that. Um uh. And then we also

542
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: want to say thank you to Mark mug Danski for

543
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: coming out and talking to us about APEX. If you

544
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: are going to APEX, UM, I understand one of the

545
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: must see exhibits this year is in the Autel booth.

546
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Autel is gonna be there and they're gonna be talking

547
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: about their new aid DOS equipment. Again they've done some

548
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: upgrades and changes to it, so we're gonna be doing that.

549
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna be putting on a big major presentation out

550
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: of a PEX this year, So I understand that's a

551
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: must see. That's a happening. So um. You know, just

552
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: just things to point out. There's a lot. There's a

553
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: lot going on um in this industry, as there always is.

554
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Let's get over to that is that Johan, Am I

555
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: saying that right in Binghamton, New York, fifteen Dodge caravan, Yes, sir,

556
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: thank you, good, sure sir? How can I help? All right?

557
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: So it has about a hundred and thirty eight thousand

558
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: miles on it. I've owned it since I had about

559
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: thirty thousand. At fifty thousand the oil excuse me, the

560
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: pump went in the transmission. It was covered under warranty.

561
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: They rebuilt it at the dealership at a hundred one

562
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: thousand miles. The exact same thing happened again, and this

563
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: time it wasn't under warranty. Um, of course I'm approaching

564
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, one thirty eight. Now is that a problem

565
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that I am going to continually have to be anticipating fixing?

566
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Or is this these one offs or two offs or walk? Uh?

567
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Tell me the mileage again, the mile edge when it

568
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: first occurred just over okay, Um, and this is this

569
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: is a fifteen. That fifteen Chrysler trans isn't the greatest,

570
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: But then again, Chrysler hasn't had a great transmission in

571
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: a long time. Um. Yeah, you know it's and there's

572
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: not much you're going to do about it. Of the

573
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: normal service and repair. The sad part is when they

574
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: rebuilt the transit one oh one, what did they do?

575
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: Did they rebuild the existing or did they replace it

576
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: with a re manufactured factory unit? Do you know they

577
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: rebuilt it? Okay? You know. One of the things I

578
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: don't like about rebuilding automatic trans is is I question

579
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: whether or not in the field they can properly be

580
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: redone for longevity unless they're really taking the time and

581
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: the care to do so. Was that the dealer doing

582
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: this or was it a private independent shop the dealer? Okay?

583
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: And what kind of warranty did they give you? The

584
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: second time he worked with me on price because I said,

585
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: this is the second time this has happened. It was

586
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: out of warranty. So he really did his best and

587
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: applied a lot of discounts and stuff, and he said,

588
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: I had a three year unlimited mileage of warranty from

589
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: that repair. Only time is going to tell, you know,

590
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: to have the repetitive failure like that again. Um, you know,

591
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: does lightning strike twice as lightning strike three times? There's

592
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's the bottom line. There's not much you

593
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: can do to prevent it short of replacing the vehicle,

594
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: right if it happens a third time, what I would

595
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: probably consider doing is asking for if you're going to

596
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: fix it, asking for a factory reman trans this way,

597
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: this way, we'll we'll swap the whole unit out and

598
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: start over that way. So US two. I have been

599
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: told by my mechanic, who is very proficient and well

600
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: respected in the area, as well as the local Toyota

601
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: dealership that I'm not to replace or service the transmission.

602
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: Why they said that, that's it's designed not to have

603
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: to be done, and the dealership is shooting me away

604
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: from doing it. I'm tend to believe him, but I

605
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: just don't understand how that could possibly be, you know,

606
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: two or three saying which I even planning on keeping

607
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: the car for a long time because it's bulletproof. Otherwise,

608
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: how many miles were on this show on uh, right

609
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: around the same one. Okay, you got you got time

610
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: to you got time to stick around till after the

611
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: break I do. Okay, stay put, We're gonna answer it

612
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: for you right away. Don't don't don't go away. Stay

613
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: right there. I'm running any of the car Doctor, We'll

614
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back. Run any of the car Doctor. Johan,

615
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: you're still there being him to New York. Am, thank you?

616
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: So which trans you're welcome? Which trans is a CVT

617
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: or automatic? Uh, it's an automatics. You know you can

618
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: shift it manually or I can just put it in

619
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: D and this should be WS fluid. Is that what

620
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: they're telling you? Is that what you referenced. I didn't

621
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: even get that fire, but everyone in my area tells

622
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: me that you don't do it. Okay, So if this

623
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: isn't automatic, not a CVT, and this, if it's an automatical,

624
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: will be WS fluid. I disagree with them. I've got

625
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: multiple cases. I'll tell you a real world experience. Toyota

626
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: says the fluid should only be changed on an as

627
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: needed basis. All right, I've got multiple cases of WUS

628
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: fluid equipped Toyota transmissions where anywhere from as low as

629
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: seventy thousand miles up to a hundred and fifty thousand

630
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: miles the trans will develop a shutter on takeoff, a

631
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: sloppy up shift, and just have general overall poor shifting characteristics.

632
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with the trans other than the

633
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: fluid itself has worn out the operating characteristics of the

634
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: fluid has reached its limit. Its additive package is just

635
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: warrant period. I experienced it on my daughter. But if

636
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: it does that, now the idea is do you want

637
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: to wait for it to have the problem or do

638
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Speaker 1: you want to wait and service it on a regular basis. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk, and where do I go? You know,

640
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: there's got to be somebody out there willing to do it.

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Speaker 1: My suspicion is maybe this isn't an automatic. Maybe this

642
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: is a CVT which isn't automatic. But it's not. That's

643
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: and that's and that's a different conversation. But you know,

644
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Speaker 1: in in this corner of New Jersey, I can tell

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Speaker 1: you from my perspective because I always try to give

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Speaker 1: you guys something specific like this what I've seen real

647
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Speaker 1: world in the shop. I have fixed more than a

648
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: few Toyotas with shutter problems. Servicing the trans is on

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00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: worn out fluid. That being said, we operate on the

650
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: principle we do WUS fluid every six sevent and we'll

651
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: change it again at the buck twenty mark. And if

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Speaker 1: the person goes beyond that, they they if they have

653
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: the problem, we say, well, here was the issue you know.

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Speaker 1: Part of what we have to learn to address is

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Speaker 1: we spend an awful lot of time and money worrying

656
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: should we or shouldn't we? For what could be a

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: two service on a in this case, a fifteen year

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00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: old vehicle with a hundred thousand plus miles, We spend

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00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: more than that on Starbucks coffee every week at eight

660
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Speaker 1: bucks a cup. Um, it would make sense to take

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: care of the car so we can take care of us.

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00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Look and see what's transis is, Johan, And if it is,

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00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: if it is a an automatic, I'd consider changing it.

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00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: And um, if not, then let me know what you

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Speaker 1: end up doing. I'm curious. I'm running any of the car,

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Speaker 1: Doctor reminding until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see it, she s