1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: From the Rams Studio, connected by AT and T. Welcome 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. This is the official podcast of 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the Rams dot Com. I am Miles Simmons. Today. I 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: am here with Defar Defen always with me, always today, 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: You're always with me. Usually I am with you. But yes, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: and the Rams are now four and five. Yea, they 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: are coming off a nine to six victory over the Jets. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk plenty about that. But of course, I 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: think we've got to start with the big news this week, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: and that is Jared Goff will be behind center for 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: the La Rams when they take on the Miami Dolphins 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: this week at the Coliseum. Your reaction de far, You know, 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: no shock. Um. Look, the ultimatum or the gauntlet was 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: dropped on the offense the week before when you lost 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: to Carolina. Um, if the offense goes stagnant again, you 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: you heard the crowd. You saw the crowd, they voice 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: their displeasure, and Jeff Fisher had to do something um 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: to spark as football team, Sparka's offense. So when you 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: go to New York and you won a nine to 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: sixth ball game and you don't score, it was inevitable. 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: The writing was on the wall. So yeah, no shock, 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: It's more curiosity. I can't wait to see what Jared 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: Goff does with a full week of practice, what he 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: does as the starter, when the game plan is tailored 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: around his skill set, and what the offense looks like 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: with him in it. So more of excitement, but no 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: shock at all. Yeah, no shock to me either. I mean, 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: and I think this is something that was just coming right. 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we've always heard since the beginning of this 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: season that Jared Goff is going to play when he's ready, 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: and you know, we've talked about on this podcast and 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: in other places what constitutes readiness, And so I don't 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: necessarily know that it's Jared Goff or I should put 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: it like this, I don't necessarily know that it is 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: case Keenum not doing enough, or if it is just 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff progressing to the point where they feel comfortable 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: that he can go in there, he can execute the 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: offense at a high enough level so that they can 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: be successful. It's probably a combination of the two, because 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: you don't get to where the rams are and they're 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: scoring only fifteen point four points per game. That's really, really, 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: really not good, and you're four and five. Yes, yeah, 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: so you're fortunate to be four and five because you're 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: two and one in games where you have not scored 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown, which is amazing, That is very amazing. I 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: mean not only games where we haven't scored a touchdown, 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: it's games where you have scored under ten points. In 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: today's NFL. That's really ridiculous and kind of unheard of. 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: If I were Greg Williams, I'd write that, put that 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: in a note, and slide it under Jeff Fisher's door 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: every day, just to remind you where you are an 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: important nam. No, but seriously, um no. I look, quarterbacks 53 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: get you know, all the credit and all the blame. 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: You know when things go right, when things go bad. 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna change tailbacks. You're not gonna change 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: left tackles. You're not going to change centers or receivers. 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna change the quarterback to spark your offense. And 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff was the first pick in the draft, so 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: it was inevitable that the thing I was waiting on 60 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: when I knew the when I would know the move 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: was going to happen. I was waiting to hear what 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Jared Goff had to say about his readiness because Jeff 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Fisher out in front saying he's not ready. The media 64 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: is out behind him saying, well, why isn't he ready, 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: and there's no answers to that. Well, at some point 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: the player is going to have to answer. So when 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I started to hear that, Jared Goff says he's ready 68 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and he's waiting, chomping at the bit to play. Well, 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: as a coach, that's what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: for a guy that I have to hold back, sure, 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: a guy that's dying to get on the field, a 72 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: guy that looks like Farrell Cooper. You can tell this 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: kid wants to play right now. Yes, he wants to 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: contribute right now. So when you see that out of 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback, in some respect, you can't be as over 76 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: the top as a skill position as a receiver. But 77 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: when you start to push back against the narrative that 78 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: you're not ready, that's when I know you're getting closed. 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: So we started to hear more from Jared Goff. He 80 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: started to look more comfortable in his uniform as the backup. 81 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: So it was inevitable and I think this is a 82 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: good week when you do it at home. Now, it 83 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: sounds funny when you've got Sue and Cameron Wait coming 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: at you, But you're at home, You're coming off a victory, 85 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: your team of skuy High, and you've got a great 86 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: defense and great special teams. So I would bet what 87 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: you saw out of the Jets with pet at quarterbacks, 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: the ball coming out, quick screens and draws, you're going 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: to see a similar game plan out of the Rams. 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: They're not going to let him hold it, yeah, exactly, 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that they 92 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: are going to want to do, not just in this game, 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: but going forward. I mean, we talked about how this 94 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: offense was supposed to be set up basically from jump 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of this year. Right. You know, you have Todd Gurley, 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be your feature back. You're gonna run 97 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the ball really well, You're gonna play good defense. That's 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the Jeff Fisher philosophy. One O one, right, And I 99 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: think when you have a young quarterback, because you have 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: a guy like Todd Gurley, you can try to protect 101 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: him a little bit more by the running game. And 102 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: that's obviously what they're going to try to do. And 103 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I think you make a really good point of how 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: that's how the Jets have tried to attack it with 105 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Petty. But I think the difference has to be 106 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: when you're in situations like a third and seven or 107 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: a third and eight, or heaven forbid, third and ten 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: or longer, you gotta let Jared Goff try to get 109 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: those first downs in terms of having routes that are 110 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: going past the sticks, right, because I think last this 111 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: week we saw Bryce Petty and we have to give 112 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the Rams defense credit for this as well. They took 113 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: some things away down the field obviously, but they made 114 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Petty in the captain checkdown, and I think that's 115 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: exactly the opposite of you want of what you would 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: want with a Jared Goff, who's somebody who has the 117 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: arm strength to get the ball down the field. Oh yeah, 118 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they're gonna do what they can to 119 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: help him, to protect him, so to speak. But at 120 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: some point, I mean, this is the pros, you're gonna 121 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: have to drop back there and let one go. And 122 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: case Keenum had chances to push the ball down the 123 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: field and he was successful in some and they just 124 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: couldn't connect to others. But when you get in those 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: third mediums, third and long when you're trying to throw 126 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: across the field. Where it was an adventure with a 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Case Keener because of his height, right, this is going 128 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: to be different with a taller quarterback. Maybe you can 129 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: find a Tavon Austin, Maybe you can hook up with 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: a Brian Quick going down the field. Now, the problem 131 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: is going to be there's going to be a lack 132 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: of mobility that the Case started to show in New York. 133 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: But like I said, this is going to be a 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: quick release game plan. But expect Jared Goff at some 135 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: point to let that cannon go. And he's got a rifle. 136 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: He can get it down the field. Yeah, he does. 137 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that will help him 138 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: in the respect of him throwing the ball down the 139 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: field is his pocket presence. And I mean we kind 140 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: of saw some things with Case Keenom where maybe he's 141 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: getting a little bit skittish in the pocket, maybe he 142 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: about to run himself into a couple of sacks. And 143 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: that's a criticism that Keenom even levied against himself. And 144 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: so one of the things that I noticed way back, 145 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, in the draft process, was that in college 146 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff seemed to have a really good sense of 147 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: being able to stand in the pocket, let the traffic 148 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: go past him, let his tackles work guys up the 149 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: field and away from him, and then he can still 150 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: throw a good accurate ball finding the passing lane in 151 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: the pocket and then just sitting there and working downfield. 152 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: That's something that he's really going to have to do 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh, yeah, you saw the blitzes. They 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: were dialed up against case Keenum. Well, that's not going 155 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: to stop. It may increase. It's only going to increase. 156 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: There is nothing more or enticing then the two words 157 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback put together, especially when you're a hot defense 158 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: right now, so you can use that aggression against them, 159 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, screens and drays going to be huge 160 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to back them off. And then at some point he 161 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: may just put it in your face and throw it 162 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: down the field, you know, during the blitz, in the 163 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: middle of the blitz, and beat you that way. So 164 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: we don't know what he's got. Um, I'm interested. I 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: can't wait to see the real game begins after he 166 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: gets cracked a few times, and you know it's gonna happen. 167 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: No quarterback outside of Brady can walk through a game 168 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: and not get hit. Have you seen Brady's like postgame 169 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: press conference? Oh, he always looks completely left freaking Jim like, 170 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: did you get hit at all? Now? The ball came out. 171 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: But when you do get trapped, and this is something 172 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: that you know, Jared Goff kind of struggled with in preseason. 173 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: When you do get trapped and this is a professional defense, 174 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: a very good one, and you don't know where to 175 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: go with the football. Can you find a dead spot? 176 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Can you find a place too dead the football and 177 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: not take the shot? Or are you going to try 178 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: to release it too early and throw the pick or 179 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: what have you. So these are all the things we 180 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: don't know about rookie quarterbacks. So here's one thing I 181 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: want to ask to what do you think that a player, 182 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: specifically a quarterback can learn just by sitting and watching 183 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: as long as Jared Goff has I mean, we're nine 184 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: games into the season now, you know it's fun. I 185 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: can relate it to me as a backup when I 186 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: was coming up. The one thing that you have to 187 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: do when you're playing is you have to watch the 188 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: guys that you're playing against. You have to watch the offense. 189 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Well when you're not, when you're on the bench, you 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: can watch everything else. You can watch how the safeties rotate, 191 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: you can watch with the linebackers set up. You can 192 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: watch how the d line kind of looks different when 193 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna stunt. It's just a lot of things you 194 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: can't really watch when you're playing the game. But when 195 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: you're a backup, you get to see the entire field. 196 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: So I bet it's helped, man. I mean it does 197 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: help your confidence when you're out there and you go, yeah, 198 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I can make that throw. Well, he's not that fast, 199 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: that's not that scary, or would have stepped here, I 200 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: would have done this. It does help your confidence when 201 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: you're sitting and waiting and then at some point you're 202 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna say I need to be out there, and then 203 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: you get out there and play. So I think hurdle 204 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: one has been cleared. Hurdle two is you're getting your 205 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: first start. Let's see how you do. Yeah, so hurdle 206 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: one being what hurt. Hurdle one is being the backup 207 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: and being a one play away from going into the 208 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: football game and not showing the rest of the crowd 209 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and the team that this makes you nervous. Actually, when 210 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: you start to start to get that little feeling of 211 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: I want to be in there and I think I 212 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: can help you guys. I mean it's they start to 213 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: bring that confidence behind you and it makes you a 214 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: better player. That's interesting. I mean it's just something that 215 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily think about. You know how the rest 216 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,239 Speaker 1: of everybody else wouldn't necessarily feel about the new quarterback 217 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: coming in in terms of that confidence. Right, you say 218 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: that and people think about, oh, well, you know, how 219 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: are they going to adjust, how are they going to 220 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: do X, y Z. But if you think about it 221 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: in terms of, hey, we see what you're doing on 222 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the practice field, and now that's why we have the 223 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: confidence in you to then go in, I think that's 224 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: a really different way of thinking about it. That's all confidence. 225 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: It's it's look, I'm going to protect you. I'm gonna 226 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: do this to help you. And on defense, we got 227 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: you right, you know, if it's not there punt, it's fine, 228 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: sure yea, as we can hold them, we'll get you 229 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the ball back. Just don't make the mistake. It's all confident. 230 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: So I think this was handled in the appropriate way, 231 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: and I think this is the best time to start them. 232 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: So let's hope you get the result that you're looking for. 233 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: This Sunday, you brought up the defense, you know, and 234 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: how you say I got you? Like how when a 235 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: quarterback change happens and you guys went through this in 236 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: ninety nine with Warner obviously, Yeah, is that a kind 237 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: of way that maybe the pressure gets ratchet up or 238 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: maybe you put a little bit pressure on yourselves and say, hey, 239 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: we know that we have to step our own game 240 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: up just so that we can be sure to protect 241 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: the offense as much as we possibly can. Well, yeah, 242 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean that that whole dick for meal. We're gonna 243 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: rally around Kurt Warner, play good football, yeah, and run 244 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: the I mean, that's that's real. I mean, that's how 245 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: the ball coaches think when they're you know, transitioning from 246 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: a starter to a backup. So look, if if you're 247 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: William Hayes, if you're you know, and Aaron Donald, if 248 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: you're alec Ogletree and you know you have a rookie 249 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: going in at quarterback, well you've faced young guys and 250 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: you know what they're going through. You know what you 251 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: can do to them. So Hey, look, just play within yourself, 252 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, don't try to do too much. We got you, 253 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: we'll protect you. Well, we'll make sure it's it's either 254 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: you know nothing nothing or three nothing. We're gonna keep 255 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: the score low for you. So until you figure this 256 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: thing out. So it's a team effort. It's not all 257 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goffing. It's the Miami Dolphins gains everybody out there. 258 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: So I think you know what time it is. As 259 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: an old line, as a d line, as running backs 260 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: and receivers, you can't make mistakes. You have to help 261 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: this kid out because, like you said, he's taking his 262 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: first snaps as a pro. Yeah, and you know you 263 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: brought up how well the I mean the defense, you know, 264 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: keeping it zero zero three zero. Well, if you want 265 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: a good time to have a defense that's playing like this, 266 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: it would be right now, you know, with the way 267 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: that the Rams are playing. Let's get back into the game. 268 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: The nine to six victory over the Jets. I mean 269 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: this is the third straight week now that the Rams 270 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: have allowed only one touchdown on defense. That's really a 271 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: significant acomplishment, at least from to me in to day's NFL. Yeah, 272 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: it makes you really realize what this team could be 273 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: if you had, if you had the offense clicking at 274 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: least just a little bit more than what they're giving you, 275 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: If they could score like twenty points a game, where 276 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: would you be? Where would your record be? There? So 277 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: you can't let down. The pressure was always going to 278 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: be there. With Quinn healthy and Aaron Donald one of 279 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: the best ever. The coverage I think has been a 280 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: little bit better than we thought. Yeah, I would agree 281 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: with it. It's been a little bit better than we thought, 282 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: especially when Tremaine Johnson went out for a while. Now 283 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: that he's back, so I think there's been some surprises 284 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: there and some things that we expected. On this defense, 285 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: the one thing that they have to do better and 286 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: I like it that Jeff Fisher challenged his team after 287 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: the loss to Carolina. Hey, look, you got to help 288 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: us out on defense. I know you guys are playing 289 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: lights out, You're doing great against the run, You're doing X, 290 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Y and Z. But le' let's see if you can 291 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: take the ball away. Let's see if you can set 292 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: the offense up and scoring territory. So there's always more 293 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: you can do, right, because it's it's all about the 294 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: rams and not just about different units in the Rams. 295 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: It's all about one group trying to win. So if 296 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: the defense was failing, then you would turn to the 297 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: offense and say, hey, we need more out of you. 298 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Or if the special teams, if Johnny Hacker wasn't Johnny Hecker, 299 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: then everyone's going to have to pick it up. So look, 300 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: there's always more you can do. So it was good 301 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: to get the turnover to end the game, but you're 302 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: going to need more, especially this week. Well yeah, I 303 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: mean we can talk about this that the fact that 304 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: they've still only had two takeaways now in the last 305 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I think four or five games. Right this is after 306 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: they got that big five takeaway game against the Arizona Cardinals. 307 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: And you know, we can say whatever we want about 308 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. They're going through their own things. But 309 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, this is a defense and when 310 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Greg Williams has had his best defensive units, they have 311 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: been ones that take the ball away. You think about 312 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: that defense that they had New Orleans in two thousand 313 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and nine. That was a defense that took the ball 314 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: away consistently and helped their offense that way. And the 315 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Rams have got to be able to get back to 316 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: that a little bit more. And it's it's sort of 317 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: hard for me, you know, as an observer to be 318 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: critical of a team that you know has allowed i think, 319 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: ten points on defense, right, and against New York, and 320 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: then thirteen points against Carolina and now it's down to six. 321 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: But again, you have to be able to continue to 322 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: motivate yourself to do a little bit more because you're 323 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: either getting better you're getting worse, right, and this is 324 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: the way that they really can't get better. So you're 325 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: getting worse. Then, what so you're getting worse? Am I? Yeah, 326 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: you're getting worse. I'm just saying if you're not getting better, 327 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: you're not getting So you're saying I'm saying the same. 328 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: It's throwing it out there. No, no, But I thought 329 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher made a great point, and it's it's it's 330 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a football game, and it's you need a dance 331 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: partner if you're going to help with takeaways and turnovers, 332 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: and if you can get into a situation in a 333 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter to where they have to throw to get 334 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: back in the game, turnovers will start to come. Oh yeah, 335 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: either strip sacks or picks. But when you're in a 336 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: situation in a fourth quarter where an offense can be balanced, 337 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: where they can protect the football and be conservative a 338 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: little bit harder to get the ball out. So Ogletree 339 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: going in and ripping it out was amazing, Yeah, tremendous. 340 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: But at some point, if you score twenty one points 341 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty eight points in a game and you're up by 342 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: two scores, they're gonna have to put it in the air, 343 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: which puts them in harm's way from a pass rush 344 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: or an interception standpoint. Yeah, and I think that's one 345 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: of the things that we have not necessarily seen that 346 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: is probably affecting the rams sack numbers. I mean, the 347 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Rams only have sixteen sacks right now. They're in sort 348 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: of the bottom echelon of teams with sacks. There are 349 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of teams with sixteen sacks, and right now 350 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: they ranked twenty fifth, right, So this is probably part 351 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: of the issue, is that the Rams have not been 352 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: in a lot of pass rushing situations where they're up 353 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: by a couple of scores. You know that guys have 354 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: got to throw the ball, and that's why the sacks 355 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: haven't necessarily been there. I mean, you've also had injuries, right, 356 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean Robert Quinn has missed some time, and then 357 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: guys like Well Hayes, Eugene Simms, Brockers, all those guys 358 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: have kind of missed a little bit of time in there. 359 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: And so we only have Aaron Donald, who is your 360 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: most dominant pass rusher on the interior. They can give 361 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: him a little bit more attention, and not just with 362 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: double teams but also triple teams. So I think that's 363 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: part of it. But if if you know, we go 364 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: back to the golf quarterback change, if that gets you 365 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: more points, then and the Rams defense continues to play 366 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: as well as they've been playing well, the sacks are 367 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: going to start coming because you have more points on 368 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: the board in general. Oh no doubt. You're not getting 369 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: the sacks in record numbers, right. I mean, you're right 370 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: at the top of the board as far as sacks. 371 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: But when you look at tape, you don't see a 372 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: lot of vertical routes either. No, you don't. Yet the 373 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: ball is coming out and it's going lateral. Oh yeah, 374 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: because they're trying to get the ball out because the 375 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Rams are getting there. Aaron Donald is getting to you, 376 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is going to get to you. William Hayes 377 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: is going to get to you at some point and 378 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: you can't slide the line because of that interior pass 379 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: for us presidence of Aaron Donald. That's why, that's what 380 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: makes this defense so special. So quarterbacks are getting hit, 381 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: they are getting hit. So as as an offensive coordinator, 382 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: you've got a choice. If you've got a big vertical game. 383 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Think Arizona, we got a big vertical game. Well, you 384 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: it may cost you a quarterback to get the ball 385 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: down the field. You make complete some but that quarterbacks 386 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna be picking himself up more often than not. Well 387 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: that was the approach that Carolina took to Arizona and 388 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: why they had eight sacks in that game. I mean 389 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: that it's just the way things sort of work with 390 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Arizona and Arizona's offensive design. You have a choice. You 391 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: have a choice to make. And even if you call 392 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: it that, that quarterback knows what's happening. I mean he 393 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: can look down there and know, well, I got a 394 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: mismatch here. Yeah, I can't slide there. I got a 395 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: problem here. And the route says nine nine nine, Well 396 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it down to get this ball out 397 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: because I'm getting smashed here, So look, it all goes 398 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: hand in hand. So I would say if you had 399 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: a little more offensive punch, you'd see more sacks. I 400 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean that's 401 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: why they call it the ultimate team game, right, because 402 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: there are things that on offense that you can do 403 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: to help affect the defense. But you know, you brought 404 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: up just how the Rams pass rush was getting there 405 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: even though they weren't getting there. You know, when Bryce Petty, 406 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: you look at his numbers and they were what they were, 407 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: but he was getting pressured and the coverage was good. 408 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: So that's what kind of turned him into captain checkdown. Right. 409 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: There were I think multiple instances where you could see 410 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: like guys really tugging on the jerseys of a Robert Quinn, 411 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: of an Aaron Donald, and I'm sitting in the press 412 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: box thinking, really like, these guys cannot get a holding 413 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: call at all. That kind of baffled me. But they 414 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: because they were getting the pressure on Bryce Petty even 415 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: if they weren't bringing him down, they were causing arrant 416 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: throws and that is something that is very important as 417 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: a group up front. Oh yeah, I mean, it's it's 418 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: a no read offense. For a quarterback, it's a predetermined snap. 419 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm going here with the ball, I'm gonna throw it here, 420 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and something's, 421 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, based on if you're a good offensive coordinator, 422 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you can game plan the Rams. You can 423 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: study film and you pretty much know where they're gonna 424 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: call on first and second and third down. I mean, 425 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: that's just film study. So when the Rams are giving 426 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: you a ten yard out at versus on this down 427 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: and distance, we'll just drop back and throw it. Yeah, 428 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, we'll give you that down the field. Eventually 429 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: you're going to run out a room and that's not 430 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: going to be there, and you're gonna have to actually 431 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: decide where to go with the football, and that's where 432 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: you put yourself in harm's way and you get popped. 433 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: So he look like we said, you know what the 434 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: situation is this week, and it's not all about Jared Goff. 435 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: Miami can run the ball, yes, yeah, I was that. 436 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: Miami can pound the football and keep your offense on 437 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: the sideline for an extended period of time. So it's 438 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: not always worrying about what Goff's gonna do. To Miami's defense. 439 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: What's Miami's offense gonna do to this defense? Because if 440 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm Tannehill, if I'm Tannehill, I know how my bread 441 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be buttered. It's not dropping back to seven, 442 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: reading the field and throwing it down. It's turning it 443 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: off to this running back and letting him do the 444 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: dirty work. It's gonna be punishing this weekend. Well, here's 445 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: the thing about the Rams defense right now. The run 446 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: them against the run has probably not been where they 447 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: want to be. And I think we saw last week 448 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Matt Forte ripped off a couple of really long runs 449 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: that got them in position to put points on the work. 450 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: One did obviously, the other one didn't. So what are 451 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: some of the things that you think the Rams have 452 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: to do better in terms of stopping this is funny. 453 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Look if the Rams defense in the front seven, when 454 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: they make their minds up to stop the run, you've 455 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: seen it. It's zero, it's it's it's minus one. It's 456 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss. Whenever I see guys like Matt 457 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: Forte or anybody have success against the Rams run of 458 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: the football, it's usually somebody upfront freelanced. It's usually somebody 459 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: upfront violated the the the integrity of the defense, trying 460 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: to do too much, and now you're missing a gap 461 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: and then you see Matt Forte run through a gaping 462 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: wide hole. Well that's not because they were blocked, it's 463 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: because somebody ran themselves out of a hole. And then 464 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: two plays later it's all sewed up. Yeah exactly. Yeah, 465 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: it's just every now and then you get guys that 466 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: want to do too much, make the big play, and 467 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: then this is the pros. They'll hit you for it, 468 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: but then they sell yourself up. So m yeah, I 469 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: think the run defense is just fine. Um. I think 470 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the the eagerness to make the play, to be the guy, 471 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: it's something that every defense deals with, is something that 472 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: holds the RAMS back in certain situations. That's interesting, like 473 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: what other situations do you think you've seen it? Um? Well, 474 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: they production equal tolerance. Yeah you ever heard of that before, 475 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: which means if you're a productive player, you get away 476 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: with a lot. Oh okay, yeah, so sometimes somebody in 477 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: the middle might try to do something that shouldn't and 478 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: then yeah, you get hit, but then he makes it 479 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: up for it and like the next play, Yeah, it's 480 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: somebody with two nines in his number. Could yeah maybe yeah, yeah, 481 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes no. Sometimes when you have you know, your your 482 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: rotational guys in and it's it's more even upfront. They're 483 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: all line versus your rotational defensive lineman. Um. Sometimes guys 484 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: do get blocked or can't get off blocks and they'll 485 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: hit you there. But when it's frontline versus front line 486 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: and they're all dialed in, I don't think you can 487 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: move the ball. I don't think you really can't either. 488 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I did I 489 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: noticed on film. It's just when you have Will Hayes, 490 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's, Aaron Donald, and Robert quinnin all at the 491 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: same time, it is just really really hard for offensive 492 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: lines to do much of anything because they can all 493 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: get after you, yeah, at the same time. Well, and 494 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to do too much blitzing. Well, they're 495 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: all good, they're all talented, they're very smart, and they're 496 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: world coach and they've been in the same scheme for 497 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: this is their fifth year and they were and they've 498 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: been working together for three right, So when the call 499 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: comes off the bench, it's not trying to figure out 500 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do or how it's oh, 501 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: I know what I have to do, and then they 502 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: apply it to what they see in front of them, 503 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: and then they make plays. I think very yeah. I 504 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: think that's just the benefit of chemistry and timing and 505 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, familiarity and all these things. It's it's really 506 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: kind of a unique situation. You don't have that too 507 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: much in the NFL. Well I'll give you for instance. 508 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: And this is not to pick on a guy. It's 509 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: the coach that was here before, Jeff Fisher, and he's 510 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be a defensive guru. There's just so much 511 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: going on in that defense to where you have paralysis 512 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: by analysis. I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed 513 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: to do in this scheme that I don't move. I 514 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: just don't move up front, and the offense is a 515 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: beat ahead and it looks like they're blocking me. I 516 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: just didn't move. You know. It's really funny like that. 517 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: That's how I played defense when I was in high school. 518 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: You just stood there. I just I just never knew 519 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: what I was doing, Like I always understood things from 520 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: an offensive. You know, this is on I don't the 521 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: mic is on that. Fine, Am I a player. Now, 522 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: well player as a player, Come on, you are okay. 523 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: You played in the league. I I a lot about you. 524 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: You didn't move. It's not that I didn't move. I 525 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: was just I always felt like I was wrong. I 526 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I was scared. It was just one of 527 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: those things where if I look at the offense from 528 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: a defensive perspective, I don't know what they're going to 529 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: run or pass like, and it just always blew my mine. 530 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea, I'll help you. It's always a 531 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: pass unless they run it. Oh wow, there you go. 532 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: That sounds like fifty percent of the time plays or 533 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: linebacker play, it's always a pass unless they run it. Yeah. 534 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: But then if you it just it blew my mind. 535 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: And for me, offense was always I'm dictating, so I 536 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing and I know what is ppposed 537 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: to be done on each play, Like if it's twenty 538 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: six power, I'm pulling over to the right and I 539 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: gotta go get the lineback. You did a playbook in crayon, 540 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. And I can't think. You 541 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: can't think and react. You need you need to be 542 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: told what to do at every at every moment. I 543 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: need to be told. It's just it was so much 544 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: easier for me to feel like I was dictating than reacting. 545 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: And I think I, at least when I was growing up, 546 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I felt always felt like I understood defense better because 547 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: I could say, Okay, well, if you're in cover three, 548 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: you know you have hooked to curl, you know you've 549 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: got the deep middle third, you'd do whatever. And then 550 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: when I was out there, I was just like, Nan, 551 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: this is there's male female offense defense. I know what 552 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: side of the fence you're on. See, I know offense. 553 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: All the athletes are on one side of the ball. 554 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: You figure it out. Well, yeah, because you have to 555 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: be able to go there and react, and you think 556 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: it's easily what's tougher receiver or corner corner knowing where 557 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: you're going or not knowing where this guy's not saying Basically, 558 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: if you I mean like all all the things that 559 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: I was just saying, basically, be a safety or a quarterback? Uh, 560 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: because remember defense can't punt no um safety your quarterback. Yeah, 561 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: I would probably rather be the quarterback. Yeah, how to 562 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: protect yourself? At quarter you can protect yourself, but you 563 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: have a lot of responsibility it's probably really hard. That's 564 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: why I like doing the show with you. It's fun 565 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: because you would, of course rather be the safety of course, yeah, 566 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: because you can. I'm on the right side of the ball. Yeah, 567 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: good side of the ball. Yeah. Speaking of that that, 568 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, what's amazing is the Rams and their defense 569 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: and how they're constructed. You know, basically you have three 570 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: strong safeties. Yes, and you can and you haven't been 571 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: beat over the top barely a barely at all. Yeah, amazing, right, 572 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean that that's that tells you how good that 573 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: pass rush is. Yeah, because usually when you when any 574 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league sees two guys that basically should 575 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: be strong safeties, the first thing he's going to do 576 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: is check vertical to see if you can run right. Well, 577 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: you don't have the time to do that. No, that's 578 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: that's how good this defense that's in. That brings me 579 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: back to something you said, I mean a few weeks ago, 580 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: where it was you were like, I always assumed that 581 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: people couldn't cover, you know, and it's I don't think 582 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: that's let me be clear, I don't think it's necessarily 583 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: what the Rams are doing, because they have shown that 584 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: they can cover right. But when you have a pass 585 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: rush like the Rams have, it puts you in better 586 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: position to make guys make quicker decisions. Yes, exactly what 587 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: you're saying. It makes defense easier. We can when you 588 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback, when you can get instant pressure. 589 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, don't don't rely on the life preserver 590 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: or make sure you can swim. Yeah, you know, I mean, 591 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: don't rely on coverage. Make sure you can get to 592 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So that's that's how I would construct my defense. Yeah, 593 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: and I think we saw sort of one of the 594 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: things that I don't know. The only long pass that 595 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: they had was that fifty two yarder that um exactly 596 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: A was barely caught. B. They went right back and 597 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: they threw that actually very very quickly, because the first 598 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: thing I thought about when I saw that play was, oh, well, 599 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: the pass rush didn't get there, right, And if you 600 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: look at it, I mean he was already in shotgun aarrison. 601 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: It's just fast guy, so he basically just you know, 602 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: had the nine routes just go and then E J. Gaines. 603 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean that's a play that he almost always makes, 604 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: and it was just one of those instances where he didn't, 605 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: and I think Fisher said later, either on Monday or Sunday, said, 606 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: in retrospect, we probably should have been in a different coverage, right, 607 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: That probably would have helped it out. That's funny that 608 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: you guessed right on that play. Yeah, because if the 609 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Rams were in a different coverage, it's picked. Yeah. Yeah, 610 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: if there's a safety rolled over the top that's coming over, 611 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: he takes that thing and takes it to the house. 612 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: So you got lucky. I mean, the Rams did it 613 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: with case Keenum a lot. They anticipate a certain coverage 614 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: and they quick snap and throw the ball out and 615 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: they've had success with it. A lot of teams will 616 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: try to do that, especially against teams that can knock 617 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: the head off your quarterbacks. So getting the ball out 618 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: fast is important. It is, yes, and I again, I 619 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: think we're going to probably see more of that as 620 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: the ramstick on the Dolphins this week. It just needs 621 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: to be their offensive philosophy. You know, the one guy 622 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: that we haven't talked about I think is the most 623 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: important person is Tim Barnes, your center. Because of how 624 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: much pressure Miami can put on your quarterback, you need 625 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a smart center to help out your quarterback. Because remember, 626 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: this is going to be a young guy in there 627 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: taking his first snaps in the regular season. So I 628 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to know everything, and they're gonna 629 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: throw some wrinkles at him that maybe he wouldn't know. 630 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: So it would help to have a veteran guy at 631 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: center absolutely helping him out. Hey, look, I want to 632 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: slide protection this way. No, No, let's slide it this way. 633 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Just to make sure are just little things, little little 634 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: meetings you can have on the sideline about things that 635 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: are happening. I just I hope Tim Barnes is healthy 636 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, let's let's talk about a little bit 637 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: of injuries. Um, you know the Tim Barnes Obviously he 638 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: left the game after it was a third down. I 639 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: think it was right before that majestic punt that Johnny 640 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Hecker had. Did you say majestic? I did say majestic. Ahead, 641 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: you clearly did not read what I really on offense, Okay, 642 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, you didn't read what I wrote. Did do 643 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: defensive players? Don't use majestic. We'll go we'll go back 644 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: to this after we're doing with this injury update. Um, 645 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: but Tim Barnes, he did not practice on Tuesday. We 646 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: are right now it is twelve forty nine Pacific and 647 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and the ramps have not practiced on Wednesday, 648 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: So obviously you know, follow us on Twitter and do 649 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: all that and look at the website and you will 650 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: see the injury update there. But another important one. Robert Quinn. 651 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: He was hospitalized with an illness. This is non football inness, Yeah, 652 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: very scary. He was back at practice on Tuesday, back 653 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: at the facility. He did not practice per se, but 654 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: he was on the sideline in street clothes. It was 655 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: good to see him. All the tests have checked out 656 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: pretty well. Fisher said. He's day to day, so he 657 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: has not necessarily been ruled out for Sunday, but we 658 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: don't know yet if he's going to play. But yes, overall, 659 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: really really good news is all things considering, you know, 660 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: talking to guys like Michael Brocker is in the locker room, 661 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: he said, it was really just very good to see 662 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: him be healthy and be chipper and upbeat after everything 663 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: that went on on Monday. I love Robert Quinn and 664 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: his family too. Yeah, I really respect the man. But 665 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: we need ninety four on the field this week. You 666 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: need ninety four on the field. For the rest of 667 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, it just helps out everybody on defense 668 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: to have him. But the when you first heard it, 669 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: it's scared. It when you heard the news that he's okay, 670 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: big sigh of relief. Yes, but not sure what the 671 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: heck it was question mark because you go back to, 672 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, when he was being drafted by the Rams 673 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: and you heard about the brain tumor and whatnot and 674 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. You're like, ah, God, I 675 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: hope it's not related to that. So just having him 676 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: out there is very important. But um, he is a 677 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: defensive end. Yeah, and just a defensive end only because 678 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: he can't catch. He can't catch. I don't care if 679 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: it was three yards away and that thing came out 680 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: at one hundred and ten miles an hour. It hits 681 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: you right in the hand. Catch the ball, I don't care. 682 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Catch the ball, catch the ball and run. Yes, come on, 683 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: come on man, this is no See. Here's my thing 684 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: about this too. Like if you like when um Fisher 685 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: talked about alec Ogletry not making the interception earlier, Yes, 686 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: that's that's that's extra catch the ball. His job is 687 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: to not get that. That is not a pass breakup. 688 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: That is a missed opportunity. I know, it's what that's 689 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: exactly what, missed opportunity, missed opportunity for a big play 690 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: because if he catches it, he's probably off and running 691 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: and maybe you score. On defense. Absolutely, it's a takeaway attempt. Yeah, yeah, 692 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: you have to come down with attempt. You have to 693 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: come down with those Yes, well, that's that's that's as 694 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: big as a drop. On the other side, I agree, 695 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's as big as a drop. 696 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: On it is as big as a drop because he's 697 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: not getting paid to catch the Okay, let's say Kenny 698 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: Brett or Brian Quick or Tavon Austin on third down 699 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: drops one that would have been a first down. Yeah, okay, 700 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: that's that's your jobs that catch the football. That's huge. 701 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: It is huge dropping a pick. Dropping an interception is 702 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. On the other side, it just wasn't 703 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: thrown to you. That's all. You get your hand shuts, 704 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: what's it thrown? You get your hands. No, you weren't 705 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: the intended target, but you got your hands on it. 706 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: I expect you to catch it, and I think that's 707 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: a it's a sort of fair expectation. But again, at 708 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they're not they're not paid 709 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: to catch the ball. Yes, the horror look alec Oldletree 710 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: was a he's a blown up safety playing metal backer. Yeah, 711 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: they didn't put him in there first thump ability almost 712 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: four strong safeties on your day, Thank you, Fuy. They they 713 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: they put him in there because he can hit. They 714 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: put him in there because he's an athlete. Oh, I 715 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: put him in there because he can hit two. But 716 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: they put him in there because he's a playmaker. Yes, 717 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: part of being a playmaker is to catch the ball, 718 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: all right, fine or scoop it. You know who else 719 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: is a playmaker? Ethan Westbrooks. Yes, thank you, that's not 720 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: who I was score anybody else done one this year? 721 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. We gotta talk about this punt though, Wow, 722 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever seen anything like that. I've 723 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: never seen anything. It's never happened to me. I've never 724 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: had a pun or do that. No, that was amazing. 725 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's just the simple fact like that ball 726 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: went almost ninety yards in the air with no wind. Yeah, yeah, 727 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: that's all Hecker power. Like he kicked that at the 728 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: seven and the guy fielded it at the five. I 729 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: was standing by like white right where the returner was, 730 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: and when it left his foot, this guy went like 731 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: he was a baseball player in center field. He just 732 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: goes sprinting backwards. I mean then I like, I caught 733 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: the flight to the football. I'm like, oh my god, 734 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: look at this thing. Yeah, it was amazing, amazing shot. 735 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: What a great weapon to have. Yeah, if you're the Rams, 736 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: That's what I said with Jared Goff this week. If 737 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: it's not there, you don't have to force it. You 738 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: can flip field in a heartbeat. With this guy. It's 739 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: a game. It was a game changing playoff. I mean, 740 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: there's really no other way to describe it. Because they 741 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: got all the way back net sixty eight yards and 742 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: then your defense does this job. They go three and 743 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: out and then you get a thirty five yard punt. 744 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: Ferrol Cooper Fair catches it on forty eight. That's how 745 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: you go down and you kick your field goal. It 746 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: just that, to me, was the It's weird to say it, 747 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: but that punt was the play of the game. It was. 748 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: It absolutely was. Took all the air out of the stadium. Yeah, 749 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: it really did, and it pinned them. It backed them up. 750 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean that could have been a I mean, look 751 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: what happened when they punted. Yeah, a couple of short 752 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: points and boom, boom boom. I mean, look, that changed 753 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: the game for me. And it's been a week week, weekend, 754 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: week out occurrence for Johnny Hecker. I mean he's he's 755 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: either been letter perfect without touchbacks or nailing you outside 756 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: the numbers. If you do have a return, it's in 757 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: a position where the punt team has a chance to 758 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: actually bring you down with more than one guy. So 759 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: he has been absolutely lights out for this team. I 760 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: hope that continues. You have to hope it, Yain and 761 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: it'll shout out to Greg's rline. Oh yeah, for sure. 762 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Your only points in the game came off his foot. 763 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: So I look a great day for the special teams. 764 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely no. So I don't want to talk about though. 765 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: So this what I said, you didn't read what I wrote. 766 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: It's because in the in the recap, when you're saying 767 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: I can't read, no, I said you didn't. Are you 768 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: saying I don't read? I'm saying you don't read my writing. Okay, 769 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not insane anyway assaulting you. I read everything 770 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: you write. You didn't I didn't read this one though. Yeah, 771 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: because when I because when I said majestic, that was 772 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: the word I used to I did. I saidjestic. It 773 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: was a majestic punt. It cut through the air, I said. 774 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I said, it cut through New News Jersey air, like 775 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: a plane landing at Newark Professional football. Man, you know, 776 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: I it's too flowery. I was on the I know 777 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: it was really flower It's exactly how I described it 778 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: to somebody, mickey splane. I don't know who Mickey's No 779 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: one knows who Mickey's plan is ahead. Okay, God good, 780 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: then I don't care anyway, all right, Yeah, so let's uh, 781 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: let's sort of turn the page a little bit and 782 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: talk about the offense. We did see Todd Gurley get 783 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: going a little bit, and you know it's kind of like, okay, well, 784 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: how relevant is what we saw? I saw Benny get 785 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: going first. Yes, yes, but Benny should have scored. Benny. 786 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Come on, man, you gotta put that in. Finish off yeah, 787 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: especially when you have a struggling offense. Finish that thing. Oh, 788 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: finish that yeah. Yeah. But I do like it when 789 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: there's competition, especially running back. Do you think it's really 790 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: competition though, is I mean like I mean, is we 791 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: see Benny in Todd in the locker room all the time, 792 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's not like I feel like if there's a 793 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: competition there, it's like a friendly competition. Yeah, friends, and 794 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: they do they interact competitions, fine rivalries when you have problems. 795 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that's when the backup or the other guy 796 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: is not rooting for the guy that's out there. Yeah, 797 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: this is a competition. Well, this is what you did, 798 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: so let me try to do better than that. Absolutely, 799 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: And what happens when that happens, Well, the team gets better. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 800 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: I like it when Benny rips off long runs because 801 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: that means you're to see the best Todd you're going 802 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: to see. And I like it when Todd rips off 803 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: yeah long runs, because when Benny comes in, the same 804 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: thing is going to happen. So I like competition, especially 805 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: at tailback. One of the things I did notice about 806 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: this game watching it on film is that they started 807 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: doing the thing where you know, you hand off the top, 808 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: but you have Tavon coming around on the end a 809 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: round fake again. And we saw that a whole bunch 810 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, that's the biggest first run that 811 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Todd had at Arizona, that fifty two yard or that's 812 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: exactly what they did, and so I think it was 813 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: good to see them kind of get back to that, 814 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe go a little bit further back into your roots 815 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: and just so that I don't know, I don't know 816 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: if it's the fake that is maybe throwing defenses off 817 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, and or if it was just on 818 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: those plays where all right, the offensive line, all the 819 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: blockers finally get their blocks, they hold their blocks, and 820 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: the running back is properly going through the right hole 821 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: or what it was. But it was good to see 822 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: some success happen on those plays. It's obvious that Rob 823 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: boris the RAMS OC is a student of the game 824 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: and loves it because everybody's playbook is open to him, 825 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: meaning in college too, because of what you have in 826 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin and you're running back. So yeah, it's a 827 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: combination of three things. First, the play action. The Rams 828 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: love to throw off play actions, so you have to 829 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: honor that as a defense, which is going to keep 830 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: your safeties and corners off you because you have to 831 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: worry about these tight ends and receivers getting down the field. 832 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: Because they will hit you down the field. You have 833 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: to worry about Tavon Austin speed around the edge, So 834 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: that's going to freeze every edge rusher or your containment 835 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: element you're outside back or defensive end. That's going to 836 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: freeze them for a beat to make sure this guy 837 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: doesn't get outside, because if he does, he could go yes. 838 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: And then in a traditional sense, you have to worry 839 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: about a big running back like Todd Gurley running the 840 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: ball between the tackles. So there's three things going on 841 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: when you have that sort of play. If you execute it, 842 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: if your old line can pick up their blocks, there's 843 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: going to be a crease somewhere. It just depends on 844 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: where you get the ball off. Too. You can't defend everything. 845 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: You just can't as a defense. So at some point, 846 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: either Todd by virtue of carrying the football between the 847 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: tackles or on the edge faster than your end could 848 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: recognize it, it's going to work. And if it's all 849 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: a playfake and you're watching all this stuff, well he 850 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 1: can pull it out and throw it too, So it's 851 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: it's all beneficial. And not every team can do it 852 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: because not every team has those same sort of weapon. Yeah, 853 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the things we might 854 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: even start to see too with Pharaoh Cooper as well. 855 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean that both of those guys are kind of 856 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: those running around the edge threats and bite, both those guys, 857 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean Cooper and Taman And if you can have 858 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: that kind of speed, hey, maybe you do a double 859 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: fake and then like fake it to Gurley and then 860 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe Kenny Brits all the way down the field. 861 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: And you don't necessarily want to base the offense on 862 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: deception because you still have to have your bread and butter. 863 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: I think you have inside zone. Really throw on the wall. 864 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: I think you have to base it on this well. 865 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean with case Keenum, I think you have to 866 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of base it. Okay, maybe Jared Goff it'll be 867 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Like if you're in New England, 868 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: You're not going to have this much traffic in front 869 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: of Brady because you don't need it. Right, You're not 870 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna have this much traffic in front of Ben Roethlisberger 871 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: because you don't need it. He can stand back there 872 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: and find the open guy or throw that guy open. 873 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: So I think maybe depending on how Jared Goff is 874 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: you might see a little bit of a change there, 875 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: but if not, you'll see the same sort of thing 876 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: to slip somebody open down the field and then take 877 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: the show, right, And I think, well, if you're you 878 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: have to base the offense around the run game first, right, 879 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: And so if the run game is effective, and you know, 880 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: after Todd Grilly gets fifty four yards on eleven carries 881 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: against the Jets in the second half, you hope that 882 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: you can carry that over and that's obviously very very 883 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: much gonna help Jared Um. If if the run game 884 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: is that effective, you then think, okay, you can take 885 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: the play action shots down the field with your Kinny 886 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: brit with your Brian Quick, maybe even with your tight 887 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: ends like Tyler Higbee and Lance Kendricks. And I think 888 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee might get the increase in targets. You know. 889 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: Then well favorite, I know. And so it's crunch time. 890 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: It seemed like didn't seem like case always look for 891 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: Tavon in crunch time, good or bad. If it's a 892 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: big play get made, he's going for that guy or Kenny. 893 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: I think he looked toward Kenny a little bit. I 894 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: think when it's called go to Kenny. Okay, when you 895 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: need to move the chains or when it comes off 896 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: the sideline, it's going to Kenny. But when case got 897 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: into trouble or it's a big situation, Tayvonan was his guy. 898 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: So I wonder who's going to be Goffs guy. It 899 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: could be higg it could be Higbee. I mean, these 900 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: two guys who were roommates in training camp. You know, 901 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: they went over a lot of things together. I think 902 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason games and in a lot of training 903 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: camp practices, we saw Goff look to eighty nine a 904 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: whole bunch. So yeah, this is maybe this is a 905 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: game where we'll see I can't believe if I'm going 906 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: to say this, you might want to pick up Tyler 907 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: Higbee in fantasy. Did you just say that out loud? Wow? 908 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: I know you just ruined it anyway, I know, and 909 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: I hate I hate myself. That's a fantasy is a 910 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: real deal. We have to all deal with it. But 911 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: I just can't believe you said it. I know, after 912 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: almost getting in a fight because of somebody's fight. If 913 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: I stop, you would have punched that game would have 914 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: him right now. I would not That's what you told me. 915 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: They whispered in my Nobody would believe that you were 916 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: going to stop on his neck. I have a question 917 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: for you. Do you think you can play Farrell Cooper 918 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin at the same time. I think if 919 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't, then why did you draft him. You have 920 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: to be able to write because they're almost a similar 921 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: skill set. They are, and they both function better out 922 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: of the slot they do, So how do you play 923 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: him at the same time? You go for a wide 924 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: receiver sets? Is that what it is? I don't know, 925 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: or you have twins on one side and then you 926 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: line up a guy or on the other and letting 927 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: closer to the formula I have no, I don't know. 928 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: They're both part returners, they are both partner How do 929 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: you play him at the same time? I mean that 930 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: you can't play two part returners at the same time. 931 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: Obviously I wouldn't, But that's the that's the question. But 932 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: at some point I would bet maybe this week Farrell 933 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: Cooper is going to have a lot to say about 934 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: a victory or about the offense scoring points. Yeah. I mean, 935 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: you you can see this kid's talent, you can you 936 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: can see and he's confident. I mean, supremely confident. At 937 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: some point he's going to make a short gain into 938 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: a long one. He's going to do it himself. Well, 939 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: I thought his catch that he made on the sideline, 940 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh it was only a six yard catch, but it 941 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: put them in way better position for that eventual field 942 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: goal that they got him that was in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 943 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: those are the kinds of players you want to see 944 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: a little bit more out of Faroll Cooper. And who 945 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: knows if Tamon Austin because he also got banged up 946 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: in that game against New York. Well, if Tamon Austin 947 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: maybe can't go or they have to reduce his snap 948 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: count a little bit, maybe you do see more of 949 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper and he makes that impact. I told you 950 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: I like competition. Yeah, I love competition. It only makes 951 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: it makes people better. Yeah, so let's let's just see 952 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: who's the best at it. So it all benefits a 953 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, So it does. Yeah, we'll see what happens. 954 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: We will. Um, So let's talk a little bit more 955 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: about Miami before we bring things to a close. Um, 956 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that scare you? Running 957 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: the ball? They're gonna run the look they're gonna run 958 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: the ball in a variety of ways, and they're they're 959 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: pretty good at it. It's not really good at it. 960 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: It's not luck this. Yeah, this kid getting out and 961 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to say his name, Jagie, thank you, 962 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: because I'm afraid to say it, Gie, thank you. This 963 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: kid can run. I mean he is really really physical. 964 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: He doesn't go down in first contact a lot. He 965 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: knows how to deal with that free hitter. And when 966 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: he gets out into the open field, I mean it 967 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: could be majestic. I mean he really turns those shoulders 968 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: up and can go so and they're really good upfront 969 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: at blocking. When you keep the Rams in a box 970 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: in a phone booth, then you start to see that 971 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: they're undersized at linebacker. When you think of Mark Barron 972 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: and now Alec Okletree, they're not guys that thump and 973 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: come off blocks. They fly to the football. So but 974 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: when you can constrict the field and make them fight 975 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: in a phone booth, it gets a little bit tougher. 976 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: Now they have a good The Rams have a good 977 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: answer for that. They know how to combat that. But yeah, 978 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: every now and then you'll see guys get rolled out 979 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: of there. So that does scare me this week with Miami, 980 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: if they can control the clock, control the game and 981 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of play Fisher ball against against Jeff Fisher, that 982 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: does kind of scare me. Yeah. Well, I think one 983 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: of these things about a Jie is just the fact 984 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: that he has been huge part of the Dolphins. Now 985 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: they've got four game winning streak, right, So they started 986 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: the season one and five. Now excuse me, one and four, 987 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: they've ripped off four wins in a row. They are 988 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: now five and four. And you know when you've got 989 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: a guy who gets two hundred and four yards against Pittsburgh, 990 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen against Buffalo, then one hundred and 991 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: eleven against the Jets, like they are really running the balls. 992 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: Those are all very good defensive fronts. Yeah, so this 993 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: is this them running the football like this. This is 994 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: no joke. It's definitely going to be a point of 995 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: emphasis for the Rams this week stopping the run. Yeah. 996 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: And Tannehill can move yeah, yeah, he can move from 997 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: a receiver. He can run. So there's a lot of problems. Um, 998 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: go back to Week one. I know we don't like 999 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: to talk about it against San Francisco, but remember what 1000 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert did to the Rams when you make mistakes 1001 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: up front, well, this is a guy that can really 1002 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: make you pay for the same mistakes, and they can 1003 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: run the ball behind it. So this is not going 1004 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: to be easy. No, not at all. And I think 1005 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: one of the things that I got to see how 1006 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: to Ryan Tannehill last week when they're playing the San 1007 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: Diego Chargers is just he really stays in the pocket. 1008 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: Well or we'll just withstand a hit and he'll throw 1009 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: deliver a deep, accurate ball. He did it on touchdown 1010 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: I think Kenny Stills and then he also had one 1011 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: where he was rolling out and then delivered a really, 1012 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: really nice pass. So even if the Rams can get 1013 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: after him, and they're gonna use a short, quick passing 1014 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: game because that's Adam Gates. That's exactly what he does. 1015 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 1: And that's some of the concepts that the Rams were 1016 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to import with wide receivers coach and then passing 1017 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: game coordinator micro So that's what they're going to try 1018 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: to do. And if you remember that Chicago game last 1019 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: year where they just used a whole bunch of screenplays, right, 1020 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: and they were using the tight end screen like Zach 1021 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: Miller had like an eighty yard reception. Reminded me of 1022 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: a nightmare. Yeah, it was like he was eighty two 1023 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: yards decay. It was on a little screen, so I 1024 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: just look the thing. I mean, we got it. It 1025 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: was longest slowest touchdown run I've ever seen. It was. Yeah. 1026 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: It was not good. Yes, and that I mean that 1027 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: six fleetwood on the freeway. Yeah, parts falling off the thing. 1028 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: But that's the thing I'm talking about. You know, when 1029 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: they can run the ball so well, yeah, they're going 1030 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: to be able to use that short, quick game. That's 1031 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: that's a concern for the Rams defense at some point. Right, 1032 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: it's human nature. When you can pound the ball, if 1033 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: you're having success, somebody in that front seven is gonna 1034 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: get caught looking, yeah, and then they'll slip a guy behind. 1035 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: But hopefully your front seven, especially your front four, no 1036 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: matter what, combination, is doing their job disrupting blocks and 1037 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: making it easier for the guys behind to you know, 1038 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: differentiate between run and pass. Yeah, because when they get 1039 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 1: caught up and somebody gets behind them, it's it's Katie 1040 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: barred the door. Yeah, it's impossible to stop. Yeah, hide 1041 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: it a little. The balls up the middle. Yeah, cat 1042 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: jumped over the Yes majestically, there's that word again between 1043 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: between the horns word the day is majestic. Majestic. You 1044 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: brought up earlier Battle of the tackles, though, this is 1045 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: this is gonna be something that's kind of probably pretty 1046 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: be cool now you know. I am keeked for this one. Yeah. 1047 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: I would pay money. I would buy a ticket to 1048 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: see Aaron Donald play. Yeah. I would also buy a 1049 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: ticket to see and Dominican Sue play. Yeah. And I 1050 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: take everything that comes with it. Stomping on guys, choking people. 1051 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't care. I love watching this guy. I do. 1052 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: I love watching this guy play. And I hope that 1053 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: Roger and Cody Wickman and Jamon Brown if he's ready, 1054 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: I hope you're ready for it. And Tim Barnes, Yeah, 1055 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: if you're available, I hope you're ready for this. Because 1056 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: this is one strong SOB in the middle, and he's 1057 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: very very good and smart. He's about as smart as 1058 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is, diagnosing blocks and knowing where to go. 1059 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see these two on a bench 1060 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: press contest. I don't know who I would take, but 1061 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: I mean they're both similar. So this is gonna be fun. Yeah, 1062 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, Sue has got more of the 1063 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of size that you probably would expect from a 1064 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And you know, obviously we talk about Aaron 1065 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: Donald at length and how he uses his leverage and 1066 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: his strength, and he just I don't know, he's built 1067 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: like a house and we all know that he is 1068 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: such really really strong capabilities. But one of the factors 1069 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: that may affect things on the offensive line for Miami 1070 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: is that their left tackle, Alpert is actually going to 1071 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: be out. He suffered a dislocated wrist against San Diego. 1072 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: So if Robert Quinn is healthy, man, you don't And 1073 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: whether they moved Tounsel over there, whether they have somebody 1074 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: else over there, we don't know necessarily know yet. Oh 1075 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: that guy, Yeah, okay, that guy he's been playing, he's listening. Yeah, 1076 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he is really interesting, Hi Laramy Um. 1077 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, they are probably gonna have somebody who has 1078 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: not been playing left tackle playing left tackle. And whether 1079 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: that's Robert Quinn, whether that's Eugene Sims heck, even if 1080 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: it's Matt Longacre, right, that's maybe a fun thing. Again, 1081 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: a choice, that's the threat of Robert Quinn, Because if 1082 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: you do have a backup, do you let your backup 1083 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: go one on one with Quinn or do you change 1084 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: your offense and give that guy help and then do 1085 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: you leave the other person alone with Aaron Dogs. That's 1086 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: why I was glad that I heard, first of all, 1087 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: from a family perspective that Quinn was okay, yes, but 1088 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: from a football perspective, he has a chance to go 1089 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday because he's a game plan changer. Yeah, especially 1090 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: if you're if you're short on the old line and 1091 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: one of your best guys is out because even if 1092 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: Albert is out there, that's going to be a full 1093 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: day for him. Quinn now with a backup where you're 1094 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to assign some help, yeah, which is going 1095 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: to change their offense absolutely. I mean we saw that 1096 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago with the Carolina Yeah. Yeah, they've 1097 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: got my grummers in there. It's not necessarily a fun time. 1098 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: And as soon as they didn't, he was right on 1099 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: top of him neet. Yeah, so I think the same 1100 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: thing happens. Yeah, so we will see. Um So, I 1101 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: think that's all we've got for today here on between 1102 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: the Horns. Majestic Spell it m a j e stic majestic. Wow. 1103 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: I know I'm not a good speller. I was really 1104 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: nervous for that. Actually, oh well you're an autocrat guy, 1105 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: Oho for sure. How can you write without you know, 1106 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: the little red lines anymore? I got you. Let's get 1107 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: the five hundred. Yeah, let's definitely do that, all right, 1108 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: so defar. Thank you Corey and Glenn here and here 1109 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: producing the show today. Thank you guys very much. Majestic absolutely, 1110 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: both of you just so perfect. Thanks for listening to 1111 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: Between the Horns. Wherever you may be in football, we 1112 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: will see you next week.