WEBVTT - OJ Simpson 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.000 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie Jr. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.479 And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.360 on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and um, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.720 they believe this might be in retaliation to our testimony. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.400 Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. My name 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.160 is Alex Alonso from Street Gangs dot Com. I also 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.000 got a very popular platform called street TV where interview 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.400 current previous former gang members. And I'm here with Reggie 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.040 Right and James McDonald and this is episode number twelve. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.959 And if you're new to the podcast, we would appreciate 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.080 you guys going back to start with episode number one 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.919 and get caught up because a lot of our episodes 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.200 are inter related. You won't hear me until episode three. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.640 And if you're listening to this episode of The Gangster 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.400 Chronicles on iTunes iTunes podcast, please leave us a rating 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.160 and a review so that we can continue bringing you 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.920 this amazing content. You could rate us from one to 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.880 five five stars, meaning you love the show, and you 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.000 can write a review which also includes questions topic ideas 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.640 that we will cover on the next episode. So real 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.920 quick before we get into the main topic of our episode, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.520 a little fact checking from last week. We talked about 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:23.880 bartender O. G. Parrou. His full name is Lyle Joseph Thomas, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:31.280 born in February and was killed December four, James. And 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.720 this is kind of like right around the time you 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.760 started hitting the streets, right although although you, um, he 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.920 had already passed. I mean his name was ringing bells 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.000 and bells like like it was the thing to do. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.400 He was, he was right there with China Dog. Um. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.560 It was a lot of those guys. Then we were 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.400 younger hearing about um, you know, out there doing anything 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.920 hanging and you know, at the park and yeah, that's 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.640 pretty pretty much. And I'm sure you heard about bartender Reggie. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.760 Oh yeah, we heard a bartender growing up. You know. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.639 Like I said, I walked the streets Circumfltence as well 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.120 in that area and he was a street legend growing up. Well, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.680 I just wanted to acknowledge him present his full name. Uh. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.560 He paid the ultimate price. And you know, I always 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:24.120 like to remember all our rest in pieces, uh, regardless 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.919 of their life choices that they made in the past. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:31.160 Rest in peace to Mr Thomas. Lyle Joseph Thomas. Since 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.000 you shouting now people that are rest in peace? What's 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.440 the early county sheriff deputy name that uh that died 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:41.160 this week? The Latino guy? His name is good question, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.639 I'll give you. I'll tell you his name in the 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.400 second because I'll just read an article. In fact, I 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.680 had posted about it, but I posted about it when 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.359 he was just shocked. I didn't even know when he died. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.520 And in fact, you know when I heard he was 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.120 walking out here, were walking in the bathroom last week 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.040 in the bathroom. You can hear the radio, But go ahead, 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.880 tell us his name. I don't know, No, I don't. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.360 I can tell you I did. I did a list 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.280 of every officer that was killed by a gang member 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.440 in l A County, and it's not as many as 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.200 people would think it's by gang members. Yeah, over there, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.920 and we talked a little bit about Regis. Is his 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.359 name from body? Re just Thomas. He actually killed two 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.360 What are those two officers name? Let's shout them out. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:31.519 Those are your colleagues, former colleagues. Yes, all right? In 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.160 another second fact check you brought up last week, Reggie, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.680 that one of those governors commuted a whole bunch of 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.800 dudes on death row. And that was Governor George Ryan, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.160 who was also sentenced to He was sent to six 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.720 and a half years after he finished his governorship in 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.200 the state of Illinois, he commuted a hundred sixties hundred 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.600 sixty seven people. Yeah, they're still in prison, but they're 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.080 no longer on death row. And yay. I'm not a 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:02.080 big fan of death row. What about you, Reggie. I 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.400 support the death penalty. Uh. The name of the deputy 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:10.800 was deputy Uh. I believe it was Deputy Gilbert Silano. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.520 That's it. But I'm a I'm a I'm an advocate 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.800 of for the death penalty. Um, you know, as long 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.080 as everybody go through the due process that's needed. Uh. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.520 And we've we're for sure that this person is the 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.880 one that committed the crime. But that's the problem. You 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.120 never for sure that that person is the one that 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.880 committed to crime. Have you? Do you believe that somebody 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.120 was killed on death uh that got the death penalty, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.960 was innocent and was still executed. I'm sure that has happened. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:49.719 I can't say what's wrong in life without parole? Same 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.640 thing Bible says I for an I right, Well, that's 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.479 that's God saying that's what he will do. But it 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.240 also says that I shall not killed. Why why do 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.119 we let the state have the authority to legally kill people? 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:10.159 Thou shalt not kill. They're killing people because it's and 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.080 plus that eye for an eye from the Old Testament, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.960 it's not a New Testament. Philosophy and idea and a 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.960 lot of things changed. You don't give a tem per 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.200 cent if you go to church. You don't believe that 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.680 you should. I believe you give what you can, you give, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.120 you get five and if you can't afford, you give nothing. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.040 Let's say, you know, you have some people that deserve 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.279 to die, like Richard and Merrit's for example. I think 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.640 I think that penalty should be reserved for the most 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:40.479 heinous offenses. You know, killing two cops, no heinous, No, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.880 they're human beings, killed two human beings. Well, and I 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.520 jumped in like we just Thomas, And I know that's 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.400 when you say that, man, you've got so many cops 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.479 and this is a different story. You got so many 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.719 cops that killed so many people, and it's justified if 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.000 they do it. But if I kill a cop the 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.719 same way he killed me, I and say I felt threatened. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.800 That's why I shot this officer. I can't say that. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.200 It don't work for me, but it works for them. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.760 Some states have automatic death penalty if you kill a cop, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.120 Well they should if you're convicted. Why why should cops 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:18.920 be given Why should a defendant be given a more 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.520 severe punishment for killing the cops. It's called a deterrent. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:27.320 It deters people from from killing. But I think you 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.000 should get you invade from the police and riding down 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.000 the street and run. It should be something like ten 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:39.120 years automatic because because you you endangering other people lives. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.320 Some some cases were not like that. Um, some cases, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.640 the little boy that got killed in the backyard, Uh, 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.400 put your hands up, stop resisting, Stop resisting. If you 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.360 listen to the police, that's the first thing they say, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.880 how can I resist? And you land on my fucking neck? 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.160 And then and then in the same joke, and they 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.240 be in your ass. Well, if you believe in the 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.600 deterrence theory, Texas should have the least amount of murders 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.160 because they got the most amount of executions. And the 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.600 last time I checked, Houston has just as turned up 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:15.480 as any other city in America. Dallas fort Worth. You know, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.200 I got a lot of us older. Yeah, I don't 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.840 think the death penalty is good because a lot of people. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.560 People haven't right to their opinion, my opinion. I didn't 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.720 express my opinion, and man ain't nothing wrong with it. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.760 But I mean, damn, if it's a police officer, they 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.400 ain't gonna kire. I don't just agree with I don't 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.760 just agree with police officers. The ability should work, right. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.160 I believe we have a big case going on right now, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.280 and the one the guy in Chino that the new 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.520 governor just uh did an overturn or um. He started 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.200 investigation for the people the guy that escaped from the 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.960 jail and Chino heels and got out there and kill 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.320 those people in their house and home and all of 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.040 that needs started up a new investigation for that, because, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.480 like I said, as long as we do I do process. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.720 You know, we sit in the pen aitention and we 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.120 we we talk about white people and we say these 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.400 motherfucker's ain't none of them no good. But the majority 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.880 of these guys just getting out of jail getting sentences overturned. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.040 It's with the white people. The white people. You got 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.960 some honest motherfucker's out there that that actually help you. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:31.440 You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.120 And yeah, I mean, I know it's an old movie, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.959 but I watched The Hurricane and and Them People, a 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.520 Hurricane Carter movie, and that movie was so like wow 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.720 to me because if it wasn't for them and that 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.240 little boy, he's still being in a prison right now 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.720 in today. And that's crazy. They don't want to hear it, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.200 whether they know you're guilty or not. Well, I don't 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.040 see anything wrong with life without parole for the most 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.400 you know, heinous killers. Plus the death penalty is very 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.480 costly for the state of California because we have this 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.800 long appeals process and it goes through all these different 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.600 courts ends up costing far more money than it is 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.640 just forever one big as prison underground and all those 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.040 that's that's on depth on depth, that's on death row. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.800 Put them all in that prison, gim general prop and 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:30.200 let them kill each other. Well that's just for that 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.880 already like that, So now y'all ye for uh yeah, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:41.920 for punishment, Yeah, it's all about punishment. It's not punishment. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.640 It might sound crazy. What I'm saying is and you know, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:51.880 you know one of them one of the hot talk 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.640 on the subject that he wanted to talk about. Which 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.120 one because he brought it up the subject where he 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.800 said this let him go in and fight. You know. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.800 One of our homies that we grew up with. Both 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.840 ain't say I was a Robertson that they used was 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.720 the one that uh where they used to put him 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:09.000 in the hole and let him fight. Uh. The big one, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.400 the one that took the one that took the the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.560 case was his brother that we all really know that 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.200 uh killed the boy and he wasn't did the time 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.240 for it, took the cakes for anyway. He was the 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.360 one that was in the newspapers back in the early 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.440 two thousand. That was Smiley that was beating up everybody. Yeah, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.560 when he was killing everybody. When they came came the 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.680 jail and they had him, the officers used to bet 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.040 on him fighting, then put him in in a like 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.439 a little seal with him and then bet on him. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.640 That was one of the guys in. But he was 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.439 a muster. He was a monster. He was a muster. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.000 You got a man in shake. I'm never going to 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.040 see the streets and money nothing again. I ain't gonna 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.560 never get no pussy, no nothing. So what do you knew? 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:59.120 He made his situation great for him. Motherfucker's coming there. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.439 He was raping the home. But then the flip side. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.760 Today Cash will come home and still act like their gamesters. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.920 Yeah you've just been raped. What years was this going on? 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.200 It was a big old right up in the papers. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:21.000 Was that Corkora what one of those open right? No 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.360 Smiley was doing he was. It was a big write 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.760 up about it, opening eighty seven and he was. The 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.720 guards was fighting. I mean they were betting on him. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.000 They will just put him in there within five guards 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.400 but charged from Cork. There were five cards that got 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.000 charged on the case. Yeah, but I think they all 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.600 got found not guilty. I didn't follow it that far. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.760 I don't know. But Smiley, but Smiley was from the mob. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.520 He grew about four or five houses away from James. Yeah, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.640 he shot up. He shot Sleepy because Sleepy came in 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.599 the house and said his brother, his own brother. You 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:59.600 know what you keep saying that just because his brother 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:05.600 from com out Sleepy o g. Yeah, he kind of 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.239 got on that ship and he was working with him, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.199 you know. Rest in peace to Kenny and the robbers. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.520 They were crazy. That was a crazy family. I think 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:21.760 Dalen and Walt and Sleepy is the last one. It's 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.200 Kenny's Kenny that Kenny Kenny just got killed like five 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.760 months ago. You're sitting in a chair button on the 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:35.840 side of the supermarket. All right, Well before we start 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.480 our first topic, Um, you got shirts coming out soon, right, 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.440 and this is the shirt that we talked about, I 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.920 believe on like episode seven seven all right, with the 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.679 photos in the back, And I guess, how how can 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.679 people find out where they can get these shirts from 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.800 when you eventually get them printed? Where? Actually I was 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.079 going to start doing that after I came back from 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.720 my estragon and what I was gonna do is trying 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.640 to hook up with Yarl and put our hands together, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:08.120 because I mean, it's not just me. And I had 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.440 a conversation with my sister and I told her that 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.760 I didn't want to sell the shirts, but she she 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:19.440 told me why not? And uh, I should do that, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.880 Just do right with with with what you get off 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.800 of it. So I want to sell the shots, but 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:33.080 I also want parts of that to go to outson's grandkids. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.800 His granddaughter just graduated. We just sent her Uh, a 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.800 hundred bucks apiece, all of us, all of his seven 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.599 outs and sibilers. We all son a hunting bucks to 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.240 her for her graduation graduation. She lived in Washington and 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.920 uh I couldn't make it because it her graduation was 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.160 on this day and I had to be here, uh 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:01.560 other obligations and and she was happy. But Alton also 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:08.480 has three sons that could could use the money. Our 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:13.360 scary is artistic and his mama need help, you know, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.360 so I think, So this is what we're gonna do. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.120 We're gonna help. This is what we need to do. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.280 We gotta patreon as attached against the chronicles, and we're 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.960 gonna also attach it to bomb first. And this is 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.400 what we're gonna do. We got a whole bunch of pictures, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.040 unseen pictures and footage, and we're gonna even post. I 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.200 know somebod y'all makes think it's bad taste, but the 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.600 family approved it, and so this is what we're gonna do. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.320 We're going to post the funeral services of Bounties. We 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:48.280 had to the the Uh what my sister that I 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.000 do mean to cut you off, but let me explain it. Uh, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.920 my sister thought it would be best for the people 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.240 that was not there and that don't understand and didn't 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.320 she and wanted to be if they could have been 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.320 there twenty years ago. They got they got a chance 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.880 to see how big and how many people loved out. Yeah, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.960 and um, we got some unheard songs that were two versions. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.360 We got a song with with Ray Jason on the 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.320 hook and that was a tribute song that was done 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.080 by us. I think it was Crooked Eye and Eats 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.960 Wood and some other people. Um, and then we got 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.000 it with Danny Boyle on hook. We're gonna release stuff 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:38.240 all of that by July fift on Bomb First Patriarch 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.400 and Against the Chronicles Patriarch Patreon counts. So we need 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:43.840 all of you all to sign up on the Patreon 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.120 counts so y'all can get all of this un underseen 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.960 stuff about bountry. And we're gonna let that run for 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.600 about a month or two and we're gonna ask new pictures, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.680 unseen photos. We're gonna have some commentaries from James brothers, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.680 well not his brother, hopefully his brother will be involved, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.800 but if not, at least his sisters where we're gonna 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.880 have them just um reminiscence on things about bountry and 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.080 we're gonna put all of this on the patriars for 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.240 for people to uh to view and so y'all can 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.760 help and um, we can donate the funds generated from 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.720 that to the to the families and to you know, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.720 even to the siblings and to to his kids. So 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.440 that's what we want to do for the next couple 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.600 of months. So uh, let's do that, y'all. Let's get 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.840 together as a group, and we're gonna do that for 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.000 a bunch of family and then you know, after that 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.880 goes and we get that pretty successful, we're gonna do 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.480 that with a bunch of We're gonna do that with 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:41.800 good permission from uh errand's Palmer's heron family and do 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.480 it for him. And then you know, we'll take a 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.280 vote and see who's the next person y'all want to 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.560 do it for. And we're gonna do that to help 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.080 people out, you know. So there's no sense for us 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.240 to be here and doing things. And a lot of 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.920 y'all know want to help help people out, and so 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.080 let's let's be here for a reason. Um, you know, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.520 we're doing this podcast a and we were not generating 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.960 any funds we're just doing it to get information out 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.320 and so we're gonna do something to hopefully benefit James 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.240 and his family, and you know, eventually we'll do some 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.440 stuff with UH that's close to Alonso, to Alex and 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.919 Heart and we'll go from there. Okay, So we posted 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.639 the pictures of that shirt on the Instagram which is 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.240 at Gangster Chronicles, and we talked in depth about that shirt. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.160 It was actually episode five, which was entitled what More 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.639 Can You Take? So if you guys out there listening, 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.600 go back to episode five if you want to hear 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.080 in depth stories about the shirt that James has and 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.639 the people on the back of that shirt, because I 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.439 thought it was an amazing shirt. The shirt was so 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.439 dope that I wanted it to be a topic on 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.320 that episode. And this is what I want to do 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.720 as as my contribute for a little bit of money 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.360 that comes in that I generate for the first fifteen 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.040 people that signed up on the Patreon first fifteen people, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.879 and we're gonna started from the day. I know, we 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:58.920 already got two people that signed up on it by 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.480 boy b Dash and I don't know who the other 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.360 person is, Brandon. We're gonna donate I'm going to pay 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.359 for the first fifteen shirts and we're gonna get those away, uh, 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.760 for the first fifteen fifteen people that signed up on 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.200 the Patreon and so let's get it go on, y'all. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.280 All right, Well, our first topic, I wanted to revisit 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.919 a topic that we had already spoke about. We actually 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.680 talked about the big Cast situation with him taking over 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.840 the two pac masters. For those who are new to 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.960 the podcast, we talked about big Casts in episode eight 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.040 entitled The g Code. That was a two part episode, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.400 So go back and listen to The g Code episode 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.520 number eight. We talked in depth about Big Cast, and 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.440 you can also go to bomb First and view it there. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.800 You go to boom First because Bomb First just put 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.320 out the police report, the l A p D Police report, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.320 And that's why I wanted to revisit this because this 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.040 is the first time I'm seeing this police report about 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.959 the incident that Big Cast. I didn't want to do it. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.560 I didn't want to do it. I'm trying not to 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.560 be a police officer that y'all call, but y'all keep 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:07.560 making the police the police years retired in nine, Okay, 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.240 So so this was an incident that actually happened. UM's 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.359 two thousand one, is that right, November six two one. Yeah, 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.320 that that big cast keeps on talking about in all 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.600 these interviews where he went up to death Row with 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.960 him and two other people and put hands on you. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.080 I guess he said he put hands on sugar and 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.000 then at the end of the day left there with masters. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.360 And then he said that there was apparently a shooting 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.080 where the police came or there was some holes in 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.960 the glass, and one of the interviews he said he 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.200 said there wasn't really a shooting. Someone through some stuff 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:46.640 at the glass and not for those of the others 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.840 subscribed to first y'all and heard me tell the story 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.800 a million million times. There was a time when me Buntry, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.240 Bob mob Gotti and all. Then we went to Damon 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.960 Thomas House and uh, one of I think it was 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.760 Limp and Buntry or now Avuntry was with me, but 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.760 somebody else jumped in the back seat in the backyard 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.359 and they knocked on the back window of U of 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.160 Damon Thomas House and scared the ship out of them 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.080 in there and Big Poppy and all of them, and 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.879 then they was and then we went through the front 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.160 and we just took over the house. That's the time 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.480 he's talking about that. I tell you, he keeps claiming 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.119 stuff and talking about stuff. Daddy hearing about that. He 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.680 don't want to have any involvement with it. I've seen 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.159 you showed this bomb first, and if people see this 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.159 right here, you have to stop talking. So got to 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.159 stop speaking on this. This is crazy. Okay, Well, let 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.399 me just briefly go over this. The police report does 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.679 not have Caz's name in it at all as one 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.000 of the guys that came. And that was my only point. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.960 And I'm not trying to disrespect Popsy or or well 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.080 this is already it's already online. I'm not trying to 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.639 disrespect them by putting it out. But I just had 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.440 to show that he wasn't one of the ones that 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.760 that was there on the incident that he keeps speaking on. Well, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.640 it says here the victim and the witness our bodyguards 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.800 for witness to which is Damon Thomas, who was the 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.560 record producer that was married to Kim Kardashia. The victim 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.760 and the witness one escored witness to to a meeting 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.560 located at the recording studio that was really canawn. He 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.040 called the death row, but it was because he got 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.639 The victim and the witness one are denied access to 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.640 the studio by the location security officer Suspect TO, which 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:32.159 would be who read right, and an altercation issues and 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.359 the victim is physically held down on the ground by 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:39.840 Suspect TO and numerous recording studio employees. Suspect one approaches 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.000 and states to the victim, you want to come to 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.679 my studio and be uncooperative. The victim continues to be 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.400 held down, and Suspect one proceeds to punch the victim 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.639 about the face and body. Suspect one then retrieves a 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.160 handgun for form. It says form, but it's just say 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.920 from one of his bodyguards, and proceeds to pistol whip 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.080 the victim twice in the face, causing him to lose consciousness. 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.359 Now this is now apparently the who big hats are 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:09.320 talking about. Yeah, what this is is after he got arrested, 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.840 you got the victims report, you got body body. After 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.000 he got out of jail, winn and filed the police 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.760 report against Sugar myself, naming us as suspects to try 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.240 to get us arrested. Is what you're reading from. Now, 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.520 that's the report where he claimed to be a victim. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:29.440 This would be Dwayne Boudy b A U. D Y. Yeah, 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.359 they from from from Sex and his name is his 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:37.399 name is here as victim, well the victim and in 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.800 parentheses because he went and filed the police report after 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:44.680 he got out. And look, well I'm a little confused. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.680