Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie Jr.
Speaker 1: And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness
Speaker 1: on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and um,
Speaker 1: they believe this might be in retaliation to our testimony.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. My name
Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso from Street Gangs dot Com. I also
Speaker 1: got a very popular platform called street TV where interview
Speaker 1: current previous former gang members. And I'm here with Reggie
Speaker 1: Right and James McDonald and this is episode number twelve.
Speaker 1: And if you're new to the podcast, we would appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys going back to start with episode number one
Speaker 1: and get caught up because a lot of our episodes
Speaker 1: are inter related. You won't hear me until episode three.
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Speaker 1: quick before we get into the main topic of our episode,
Speaker 1: a little fact checking from last week. We talked about
Speaker 1: bartender O. G. Parrou. His full name is Lyle Joseph Thomas,
Speaker 1: born in February and was killed December four, James. And
Speaker 1: this is kind of like right around the time you
Speaker 1: started hitting the streets, right although although you, um, he
Speaker 1: had already passed. I mean his name was ringing bells
Speaker 1: and bells like like it was the thing to do.
Speaker 1: He was, he was right there with China Dog. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of those guys. Then we were
Speaker 1: younger hearing about um, you know, out there doing anything
Speaker 1: hanging and you know, at the park and yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty pretty much. And I'm sure you heard about bartender Reggie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we heard a bartender growing up. You know.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I walked the streets Circumfltence as well
Speaker 1: in that area and he was a street legend growing up. Well,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to acknowledge him present his full name. Uh.
Speaker 1: He paid the ultimate price. And you know, I always
Speaker 1: like to remember all our rest in pieces, uh, regardless
Speaker 1: of their life choices that they made in the past.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to Mr Thomas. Lyle Joseph Thomas. Since
Speaker 1: you shouting now people that are rest in peace? What's
Speaker 1: the early county sheriff deputy name that uh that died
Speaker 1: this week? The Latino guy? His name is good question,
Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll tell you his name in the
Speaker 1: second because I'll just read an article. In fact, I
Speaker 1: had posted about it, but I posted about it when
Speaker 1: he was just shocked. I didn't even know when he died.
Speaker 1: And in fact, you know when I heard he was
Speaker 1: walking out here, were walking in the bathroom last week
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. You can hear the radio, But go ahead,
Speaker 1: tell us his name. I don't know, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I can tell you I did. I did a list
Speaker 1: of every officer that was killed by a gang member
Speaker 1: in l A County, and it's not as many as
Speaker 1: people would think it's by gang members. Yeah, over there,
Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about Regis. Is his
Speaker 1: name from body? Re just Thomas. He actually killed two
Speaker 1: What are those two officers name? Let's shout them out.
Speaker 1: Those are your colleagues, former colleagues. Yes, all right? In
Speaker 1: another second fact check you brought up last week, Reggie,
Speaker 1: that one of those governors commuted a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: dudes on death row. And that was Governor George Ryan,
Speaker 1: who was also sentenced to He was sent to six
Speaker 1: and a half years after he finished his governorship in
Speaker 1: the state of Illinois, he commuted a hundred sixties hundred
Speaker 1: sixty seven people. Yeah, they're still in prison, but they're
Speaker 1: no longer on death row. And yay. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big fan of death row. What about you, Reggie. I
Speaker 1: support the death penalty. Uh. The name of the deputy
Speaker 1: was deputy Uh. I believe it was Deputy Gilbert Silano.
Speaker 1: That's it. But I'm a I'm a I'm an advocate
Speaker 1: of for the death penalty. Um, you know, as long
Speaker 1: as everybody go through the due process that's needed. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we've we're for sure that this person is the
Speaker 1: one that committed the crime. But that's the problem. You
Speaker 1: never for sure that that person is the one that
Speaker 1: committed to crime. Have you? Do you believe that somebody
Speaker 1: was killed on death uh that got the death penalty,
Speaker 1: was innocent and was still executed. I'm sure that has happened.
Speaker 1: I can't say what's wrong in life without parole? Same
Speaker 1: thing Bible says I for an I right, Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's God saying that's what he will do. But it
Speaker 1: also says that I shall not killed. Why why do
Speaker 1: we let the state have the authority to legally kill people?
Speaker 1: Thou shalt not kill. They're killing people because it's and
Speaker 1: plus that eye for an eye from the Old Testament,
Speaker 1: it's not a New Testament. Philosophy and idea and a
Speaker 1: lot of things changed. You don't give a tem per
Speaker 1: cent if you go to church. You don't believe that
Speaker 1: you should. I believe you give what you can, you give,
Speaker 1: you get five and if you can't afford, you give nothing.
Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, you have some people that deserve
Speaker 1: to die, like Richard and Merrit's for example. I think
Speaker 1: I think that penalty should be reserved for the most
Speaker 1: heinous offenses. You know, killing two cops, no heinous, No,
Speaker 1: they're human beings, killed two human beings. Well, and I
Speaker 1: jumped in like we just Thomas, And I know that's
Speaker 1: when you say that, man, you've got so many cops
Speaker 1: and this is a different story. You got so many
Speaker 1: cops that killed so many people, and it's justified if
Speaker 1: they do it. But if I kill a cop the
Speaker 1: same way he killed me, I and say I felt threatened.
Speaker 1: That's why I shot this officer. I can't say that.
Speaker 1: It don't work for me, but it works for them.
Speaker 1: Some states have automatic death penalty if you kill a cop,
Speaker 1: Well they should if you're convicted. Why why should cops
Speaker 1: be given Why should a defendant be given a more
Speaker 1: severe punishment for killing the cops. It's called a deterrent.
Speaker 1: It deters people from from killing. But I think you
Speaker 1: should get you invade from the police and riding down
Speaker 1: the street and run. It should be something like ten
Speaker 1: years automatic because because you you endangering other people lives.
Speaker 1: Some some cases were not like that. Um, some cases,
Speaker 1: the little boy that got killed in the backyard, Uh,
Speaker 1: put your hands up, stop resisting, Stop resisting. If you
Speaker 1: listen to the police, that's the first thing they say,
Speaker 1: how can I resist? And you land on my fucking neck?
Speaker 1: And then and then in the same joke, and they
Speaker 1: be in your ass. Well, if you believe in the
Speaker 1: deterrence theory, Texas should have the least amount of murders
Speaker 1: because they got the most amount of executions. And the
Speaker 1: last time I checked, Houston has just as turned up
Speaker 1: as any other city in America. Dallas fort Worth. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of us older. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think the death penalty is good because a lot of people.
Speaker 1: People haven't right to their opinion, my opinion. I didn't
Speaker 1: express my opinion, and man ain't nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, damn, if it's a police officer, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna kire. I don't just agree with I don't
Speaker 1: just agree with police officers. The ability should work, right.
Speaker 1: I believe we have a big case going on right now,
Speaker 1: and the one the guy in Chino that the new
Speaker 1: governor just uh did an overturn or um. He started
Speaker 1: investigation for the people the guy that escaped from the
Speaker 1: jail and Chino heels and got out there and kill
Speaker 1: those people in their house and home and all of
Speaker 1: that needs started up a new investigation for that, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, as long as we do I do process.
Speaker 1: You know, we sit in the pen aitention and we
Speaker 1: we we talk about white people and we say these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's ain't none of them no good. But the majority
Speaker 1: of these guys just getting out of jail getting sentences overturned.
Speaker 1: It's with the white people. The white people. You got
Speaker 1: some honest motherfucker's out there that that actually help you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I know it's an old movie,
Speaker 1: but I watched The Hurricane and and Them People, a
Speaker 1: Hurricane Carter movie, and that movie was so like wow
Speaker 1: to me because if it wasn't for them and that
Speaker 1: little boy, he's still being in a prison right now
Speaker 1: in today. And that's crazy. They don't want to hear it,
Speaker 1: whether they know you're guilty or not. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: see anything wrong with life without parole for the most
Speaker 1: you know, heinous killers. Plus the death penalty is very
Speaker 1: costly for the state of California because we have this
Speaker 1: long appeals process and it goes through all these different
Speaker 1: courts ends up costing far more money than it is
Speaker 1: just forever one big as prison underground and all those
Speaker 1: that's that's on depth on depth, that's on death row.
Speaker 1: Put them all in that prison, gim general prop and
Speaker 1: let them kill each other. Well that's just for that
Speaker 1: already like that, So now y'all ye for uh yeah,
Speaker 1: for punishment, Yeah, it's all about punishment. It's not punishment.
Speaker 1: It might sound crazy. What I'm saying is and you know,
Speaker 1: you know one of them one of the hot talk
Speaker 1: on the subject that he wanted to talk about. Which
Speaker 1: one because he brought it up the subject where he
Speaker 1: said this let him go in and fight. You know.
Speaker 1: One of our homies that we grew up with. Both
Speaker 1: ain't say I was a Robertson that they used was
Speaker 1: the one that uh where they used to put him
Speaker 1: in the hole and let him fight. Uh. The big one,
Speaker 1: the one that took the one that took the the
Speaker 1: case was his brother that we all really know that
Speaker 1: uh killed the boy and he wasn't did the time
Speaker 1: for it, took the cakes for anyway. He was the
Speaker 1: one that was in the newspapers back in the early
Speaker 1: two thousand. That was Smiley that was beating up everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he was killing everybody. When they came came the
Speaker 1: jail and they had him, the officers used to bet
Speaker 1: on him fighting, then put him in in a like
Speaker 1: a little seal with him and then bet on him.
Speaker 1: That was one of the guys in. But he was
Speaker 1: a muster. He was a monster. He was a muster.
Speaker 1: You got a man in shake. I'm never going to
Speaker 1: see the streets and money nothing again. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: never get no pussy, no nothing. So what do you knew?
Speaker 1: He made his situation great for him. Motherfucker's coming there.
Speaker 1: He was raping the home. But then the flip side.
Speaker 1: Today Cash will come home and still act like their gamesters.
Speaker 1: Yeah you've just been raped. What years was this going on?
Speaker 1: It was a big old right up in the papers.
Speaker 1: Was that Corkora what one of those open right? No
Speaker 1: Smiley was doing he was. It was a big write
Speaker 1: up about it, opening eighty seven and he was. The
Speaker 1: guards was fighting. I mean they were betting on him.
Speaker 1: They will just put him in there within five guards
Speaker 1: but charged from Cork. There were five cards that got
Speaker 1: charged on the case. Yeah, but I think they all
Speaker 1: got found not guilty. I didn't follow it that far.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Smiley, but Smiley was from the mob.
Speaker 1: He grew about four or five houses away from James. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he shot up. He shot Sleepy because Sleepy came in
Speaker 1: the house and said his brother, his own brother. You
Speaker 1: know what you keep saying that just because his brother
Speaker 1: from com out Sleepy o g. Yeah, he kind of
Speaker 1: got on that ship and he was working with him,
Speaker 1: you know. Rest in peace to Kenny and the robbers.
Speaker 1: They were crazy. That was a crazy family. I think
Speaker 1: Dalen and Walt and Sleepy is the last one. It's
Speaker 1: Kenny's Kenny that Kenny Kenny just got killed like five
Speaker 1: months ago. You're sitting in a chair button on the
Speaker 1: side of the supermarket. All right, Well before we start
Speaker 1: our first topic, Um, you got shirts coming out soon, right,
Speaker 1: and this is the shirt that we talked about, I
Speaker 1: believe on like episode seven seven all right, with the
Speaker 1: photos in the back, And I guess, how how can
Speaker 1: people find out where they can get these shirts from
Speaker 1: when you eventually get them printed? Where? Actually I was
Speaker 1: going to start doing that after I came back from
Speaker 1: my estragon and what I was gonna do is trying
Speaker 1: to hook up with Yarl and put our hands together,
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's not just me. And I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with my sister and I told her that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to sell the shirts, but she she
Speaker 1: told me why not? And uh, I should do that,
Speaker 1: Just do right with with with what you get off
Speaker 1: of it. So I want to sell the shots, but
Speaker 1: I also want parts of that to go to outson's grandkids.
Speaker 1: His granddaughter just graduated. We just sent her Uh, a
Speaker 1: hundred bucks apiece, all of us, all of his seven
Speaker 1: outs and sibilers. We all son a hunting bucks to
Speaker 1: her for her graduation graduation. She lived in Washington and
Speaker 1: uh I couldn't make it because it her graduation was
Speaker 1: on this day and I had to be here, uh
Speaker 1: other obligations and and she was happy. But Alton also
Speaker 1: has three sons that could could use the money. Our
Speaker 1: scary is artistic and his mama need help, you know,
Speaker 1: so I think, So this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna help. This is what we need to do.
Speaker 1: We gotta patreon as attached against the chronicles, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna also attach it to bomb first. And this is
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We got a whole bunch of pictures,
Speaker 1: unseen pictures and footage, and we're gonna even post. I
Speaker 1: know somebod y'all makes think it's bad taste, but the
Speaker 1: family approved it, and so this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're going to post the funeral services of Bounties. We
Speaker 1: had to the the Uh what my sister that I
Speaker 1: do mean to cut you off, but let me explain it. Uh,
Speaker 1: my sister thought it would be best for the people
Speaker 1: that was not there and that don't understand and didn't
Speaker 1: she and wanted to be if they could have been
Speaker 1: there twenty years ago. They got they got a chance
Speaker 1: to see how big and how many people loved out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and um, we got some unheard songs that were two versions.
Speaker 1: We got a song with with Ray Jason on the
Speaker 1: hook and that was a tribute song that was done
Speaker 1: by us. I think it was Crooked Eye and Eats
Speaker 1: Wood and some other people. Um, and then we got
Speaker 1: it with Danny Boyle on hook. We're gonna release stuff
Speaker 1: all of that by July fift on Bomb First Patriarch
Speaker 1: and Against the Chronicles Patriarch Patreon counts. So we need
Speaker 1: all of you all to sign up on the Patreon
Speaker 1: counts so y'all can get all of this un underseen
Speaker 1: stuff about bountry. And we're gonna let that run for
Speaker 1: about a month or two and we're gonna ask new pictures,
Speaker 1: unseen photos. We're gonna have some commentaries from James brothers,
Speaker 1: well not his brother, hopefully his brother will be involved,
Speaker 1: but if not, at least his sisters where we're gonna
Speaker 1: have them just um reminiscence on things about bountry and
Speaker 1: we're gonna put all of this on the patriars for
Speaker 1: for people to uh to view and so y'all can
Speaker 1: help and um, we can donate the funds generated from
Speaker 1: that to the to the families and to you know,
Speaker 1: even to the siblings and to to his kids. So
Speaker 1: that's what we want to do for the next couple
Speaker 1: of months. So uh, let's do that, y'all. Let's get
Speaker 1: together as a group, and we're gonna do that for
Speaker 1: a bunch of family and then you know, after that
Speaker 1: goes and we get that pretty successful, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: that with a bunch of We're gonna do that with
Speaker 1: good permission from uh errand's Palmer's heron family and do
Speaker 1: it for him. And then you know, we'll take a
Speaker 1: vote and see who's the next person y'all want to
Speaker 1: do it for. And we're gonna do that to help
Speaker 1: people out, you know. So there's no sense for us
Speaker 1: to be here and doing things. And a lot of
Speaker 1: y'all know want to help help people out, and so
Speaker 1: let's let's be here for a reason. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we're doing this podcast a and we were not generating
Speaker 1: any funds we're just doing it to get information out
Speaker 1: and so we're gonna do something to hopefully benefit James
Speaker 1: and his family, and you know, eventually we'll do some
Speaker 1: stuff with UH that's close to Alonso, to Alex and
Speaker 1: Heart and we'll go from there. Okay, So we posted
Speaker 1: the pictures of that shirt on the Instagram which is
Speaker 1: at Gangster Chronicles, and we talked in depth about that shirt.
Speaker 1: It was actually episode five, which was entitled what More
Speaker 1: Can You Take? So if you guys out there listening,
Speaker 1: go back to episode five if you want to hear
Speaker 1: in depth stories about the shirt that James has and
Speaker 1: the people on the back of that shirt, because I
Speaker 1: thought it was an amazing shirt. The shirt was so
Speaker 1: dope that I wanted it to be a topic on
Speaker 1: that episode. And this is what I want to do
Speaker 1: as as my contribute for a little bit of money
Speaker 1: that comes in that I generate for the first fifteen
Speaker 1: people that signed up on the Patreon first fifteen people,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna started from the day. I know, we
Speaker 1: already got two people that signed up on it by
Speaker 1: boy b Dash and I don't know who the other
Speaker 1: person is, Brandon. We're gonna donate I'm going to pay
Speaker 1: for the first fifteen shirts and we're gonna get those away, uh,
Speaker 1: for the first fifteen fifteen people that signed up on
Speaker 1: the Patreon and so let's get it go on, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, our first topic, I wanted to revisit
Speaker 1: a topic that we had already spoke about. We actually
Speaker 1: talked about the big Cast situation with him taking over
Speaker 1: the two pac masters. For those who are new to
Speaker 1: the podcast, we talked about big Casts in episode eight
Speaker 1: entitled The g Code. That was a two part episode,
Speaker 1: So go back and listen to The g Code episode
Speaker 1: number eight. We talked in depth about Big Cast, and
Speaker 1: you can also go to bomb First and view it there.
Speaker 1: You go to boom First because Bomb First just put
Speaker 1: out the police report, the l A p D Police report,
Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to revisit this because this
Speaker 1: is the first time I'm seeing this police report about
Speaker 1: the incident that Big Cast. I didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it. I'm trying not to
Speaker 1: be a police officer that y'all call, but y'all keep
Speaker 1: making the police the police years retired in nine, Okay,
Speaker 1: So so this was an incident that actually happened. UM's
Speaker 1: two thousand one, is that right, November six two one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that big cast keeps on talking about in all
Speaker 1: these interviews where he went up to death Row with
Speaker 1: him and two other people and put hands on you.
Speaker 1: I guess he said he put hands on sugar and
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day left there with masters.
Speaker 1: And then he said that there was apparently a shooting
Speaker 1: where the police came or there was some holes in
Speaker 1: the glass, and one of the interviews he said he
Speaker 1: said there wasn't really a shooting. Someone through some stuff
Speaker 1: at the glass and not for those of the others
Speaker 1: subscribed to first y'all and heard me tell the story
Speaker 1: a million million times. There was a time when me Buntry,
Speaker 1: Bob mob Gotti and all. Then we went to Damon
Speaker 1: Thomas House and uh, one of I think it was
Speaker 1: Limp and Buntry or now Avuntry was with me, but
Speaker 1: somebody else jumped in the back seat in the backyard
Speaker 1: and they knocked on the back window of U of
Speaker 1: Damon Thomas House and scared the ship out of them
Speaker 1: in there and Big Poppy and all of them, and
Speaker 1: then they was and then we went through the front
Speaker 1: and we just took over the house. That's the time
Speaker 1: he's talking about that. I tell you, he keeps claiming
Speaker 1: stuff and talking about stuff. Daddy hearing about that. He
Speaker 1: don't want to have any involvement with it. I've seen
Speaker 1: you showed this bomb first, and if people see this
Speaker 1: right here, you have to stop talking. So got to
Speaker 1: stop speaking on this. This is crazy. Okay, Well, let
Speaker 1: me just briefly go over this. The police report does
Speaker 1: not have Caz's name in it at all as one
Speaker 1: of the guys that came. And that was my only point.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to disrespect Popsy or or well
Speaker 1: this is already it's already online. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: disrespect them by putting it out. But I just had
Speaker 1: to show that he wasn't one of the ones that
Speaker 1: that was there on the incident that he keeps speaking on. Well,
Speaker 1: it says here the victim and the witness our bodyguards
Speaker 1: for witness to which is Damon Thomas, who was the
Speaker 1: record producer that was married to Kim Kardashia. The victim
Speaker 1: and the witness one escored witness to to a meeting
Speaker 1: located at the recording studio that was really canawn. He
Speaker 1: called the death row, but it was because he got
Speaker 1: The victim and the witness one are denied access to
Speaker 1: the studio by the location security officer Suspect TO, which
Speaker 1: would be who read right, and an altercation issues and
Speaker 1: the victim is physically held down on the ground by
Speaker 1: Suspect TO and numerous recording studio employees. Suspect one approaches
Speaker 1: and states to the victim, you want to come to
Speaker 1: my studio and be uncooperative. The victim continues to be
Speaker 1: held down, and Suspect one proceeds to punch the victim
Speaker 1: about the face and body. Suspect one then retrieves a
Speaker 1: handgun for form. It says form, but it's just say
Speaker 1: from one of his bodyguards, and proceeds to pistol whip
Speaker 1: the victim twice in the face, causing him to lose consciousness.
Speaker 1: Now this is now apparently the who big hats are
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, what this is is after he got arrested,
Speaker 1: you got the victims report, you got body body. After
Speaker 1: he got out of jail, winn and filed the police
Speaker 1: report against Sugar myself, naming us as suspects to try
Speaker 1: to get us arrested. Is what you're reading from. Now,
Speaker 1: that's the report where he claimed to be a victim.
Speaker 1: This would be Dwayne Boudy b A U. D Y. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they from from from Sex and his name is his
Speaker 1: name is here as victim, well the victim and in
Speaker 1: parentheses because he went and filed the police report after
Speaker 1: he got out. And look, well I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1: What what did Boudy and the other witness he came
Speaker 1: with a guy named Springer? What did they want? They
Speaker 1: were just coming with with Damon and they were trying
Speaker 1: to push their way and I told him to sit down.
Speaker 1: Only Damon can go on the back, and he was
Speaker 1: trying to you know, he thought it was just me,
Speaker 1: and so he was un forced his way, and you know,
Speaker 1: I thought I had to show him who I was.
Speaker 1: And then by that time people heard the commotion and
Speaker 1: some of the other homies came from the back. And Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a question because there's one date on here
Speaker 1: of November six, two tho one. I'm trying to explain
Speaker 1: to you that he filed a police port after he
Speaker 1: got out of jail. But but then it says there's
Speaker 1: this date of June third, two thousand two. Now, which
Speaker 1: was Sugar still in prison in two thousand. June third
Speaker 1: incident is the one where he's talking about where, uh
Speaker 1: when we went to the house. That's what he said.
Speaker 1: When they they were he said we didn't let him
Speaker 1: in because he was mad because of the incident that
Speaker 1: happened at Damon Thomas house in June third. Sugar was
Speaker 1: already out by two thousand one. Shouldn't then get out
Speaker 1: intil August the third, two thousand one? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: November six, was actually here that day? Well, I forget
Speaker 1: what I said in the police reports. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say. I'm pretty sure wasn't there here. Can't you
Speaker 1: say he knocked you and Sugar was not because that
Speaker 1: nigga wasn't there. He just making up ship. He didn't
Speaker 1: heard street legend ship. But if y'all read the rest report,
Speaker 1: go to the next report. Yes, since here that witness
Speaker 1: one stated that both suspects had arrived at the location
Speaker 1: with a record producer, which is Damon for an appointment
Speaker 1: he had with Sugar Knight. Yeah that's me. Now, that's
Speaker 1: that's the rest report, And somehow Big Cast has inserted
Speaker 1: himself into this. That's the whole point of all of us. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a question, why would do come and try
Speaker 1: to have you and Sugar arrested if she wasn't there?
Speaker 1: Why would he implicate Sugar and this ship? Well, ship,
Speaker 1: ship was probably there. How ship goddamn y'all, some incriminating
Speaker 1: motherfucker's were trying to do. I mean, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Chilled was on parole two months out,
Speaker 1: So people say, well, Reggy, why would you put him
Speaker 1: in jail? You well, number one, that was my job.
Speaker 1: But number two, shild was two months out, but gain
Speaker 1: nothing happened to shoot. Now after this ship, this ship,
Speaker 1: I don't worried about me. I don't got sued. I
Speaker 1: don't want the court and testified any Yeah, they sued
Speaker 1: me for that. That boy half his body's claiming his
Speaker 1: paralyzed so he get paid which guy which didn't get paid,
Speaker 1: but he got a judgment for a hundred sixty which
Speaker 1: is which is the guy that's claiming he got it
Speaker 1: severely injured body body? Okay, Well this incident was November six,
Speaker 1: two thousand one. For all of those who want to
Speaker 1: know what big Cats is talking about. But apparently Big
Speaker 1: Cats wasn't there at at least according to this police
Speaker 1: report exactly. Um, this has nothing to do with Big Cats.
Speaker 1: Was there any discussion that this day about masters and
Speaker 1: we want music? Were they trying to bully themselves into
Speaker 1: the to the they were? They were trying to do
Speaker 1: their job be with there there they were trying to
Speaker 1: show their boy Damon Towns that they bought about it.
Speaker 1: We're big, big bad security guards were going with you. Damon,
Speaker 1: you ain't going back there by yourself. Damon, they get
Speaker 1: they get bullied on by them. We were you. We
Speaker 1: getting paid to protect you. And you know that was
Speaker 1: one of the coldest things when I heard it. Death
Speaker 1: Row wasn't regular people working there. That's what I try
Speaker 1: to tell people what I'm saying, And I'm trying to
Speaker 1: explain that you you ain't going up against fifteen cats.
Speaker 1: When I heard it, I was like, hell, no, all
Speaker 1: of these guys I know personally, So you ain't went
Speaker 1: up against no fifth team motherfucker's to beat them and
Speaker 1: and then came back and then basket. But now that
Speaker 1: we got a date James November six two one where
Speaker 1: you were around at that time of the six his
Speaker 1: brother was there though. Yeah, so by that, by by
Speaker 1: November two thousand one, you wasn't messing. I was still
Speaker 1: working with him, But wouldn't working with him like that?
Speaker 1: I was, I was around, But I know for a
Speaker 1: fact you ain't walking up in there and beat up
Speaker 1: the whole goddamn studio and then woke up. Wouldn't just
Speaker 1: take some masters, that is impossible, But not carding a
Speaker 1: big can well, well, anybody that's in the studio, damn
Speaker 1: well that ain't that ain'tven just happened. And that's the
Speaker 1: only reason for exposing this guy. Come on, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the only reason this because this brother kept talk He's
Speaker 1: been talking about it for a year. I've been ignoring it,
Speaker 1: and he talked about it this one too any time
Speaker 1: for not a I said that wasn't true? Is him
Speaker 1: knocking out Reggie? And should I know? Reggie got his
Speaker 1: weapon on him, So you ain't been hit me and
Speaker 1: I don't shoot you. Well, according to this police report,
Speaker 1: the guys that Damon Thomas brought up there end up
Speaker 1: getting beat up. They became vic report, they became victims.
Speaker 1: And for anyone that's interested in this report, they can
Speaker 1: go to bomb first and you can get a direct
Speaker 1: download to it. Can't do it from your phone, but
Speaker 1: you can do it from your computer. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do it from a laptop or a desktop
Speaker 1: for all you ancient folks out there. And you can
Speaker 1: also get a copy of his bank rust support, which
Speaker 1: that's not a big thing. The only reason the bank
Speaker 1: rust support is is an issue because I know people
Speaker 1: got loopholes and reasons for filing bankruptcy and so I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to shoot on nobody finances is because he
Speaker 1: always claiming that he owns all the different people masters,
Speaker 1: and and we know if you own all these people masters,
Speaker 1: you have to declare either the income from the masters
Speaker 1: are declared the asset of something that you supposedly all
Speaker 1: some just exposing the brother as they lie. Let me
Speaker 1: just read this last part. It says here witness one
Speaker 1: retired Compton p D stated that he had used force
Speaker 1: um two suspects trying to force their way inside towards
Speaker 1: the rear of the business. About about it, hunt, Reggie,
Speaker 1: you put it out there, that's verybody to check out.
Speaker 1: To look at fat fifty three year old Reggie not
Speaker 1: slee year old and on a previous episode, apparently you
Speaker 1: told the story of holding your own with neckbone, which
Speaker 1: ain't no joke, right. I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: brag on that. But you had a partner though, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to fight Reggie. He's trying to get away.
Speaker 1: It's a big difference from a brother that's fighting you,
Speaker 1: squaring up against you, versus just trying to get away.
Speaker 1: That's a big difference. That's all. That's all neck Bone
Speaker 1: was doing. I was just trying to tell you how
Speaker 1: strong the brother was and how very you your stories
Speaker 1: about how hardy swings, Yeah, when he fight, how hard
Speaker 1: he swings. Neckbro was could have been all pro and football, Yeah, athlete.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at this body. You can
Speaker 1: tell the way you shape that. If you go go
Speaker 1: through his ship and look at him, a lot of
Speaker 1: people would would say, I'm not finished with him. Fight.
Speaker 1: But you've got a lot of guys out there and
Speaker 1: it's like that, you know, a million of Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, I mean, just don't every
Speaker 1: hood got a Mike Tyson, every hood got a debo.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go, um, We're done with the bad
Speaker 1: big cast situation. I don't know if we're gonna ever
Speaker 1: revisit that, but I think we're much done on it.
Speaker 1: I think we need I'm sure he's going to eventually
Speaker 1: surface his head up and I want to talk. But
Speaker 1: when he does, we'll deal with it then. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna never say never. Yeah, unless he said something
Speaker 1: and we knew about it. But for everyone who wants to,
Speaker 1: I have no disrespect. I have none but respect for
Speaker 1: the sixty cripts, whover crypts, anybody crypts. I don't disrespect anybody.
Speaker 1: Understand this at six It was just something that some
Speaker 1: people will take it that one ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with gangs, crip, blood piru. It was just he
Speaker 1: came up there, or he claimed he came up there,
Speaker 1: and it turned out these other two dudes were involved
Speaker 1: in it. But sure it wasn't him exactly. Is this
Speaker 1: show that he's a liar and if he want to
Speaker 1: be one of them? Okay, maybe you know it was
Speaker 1: lying to us, but that person was six ninety pounds
Speaker 1: and I don't think casts a six one. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: according to his police report, you do not want to
Speaker 1: be one of these two guys, because you got pistol
Speaker 1: with you might have lost some tea. Alright. The next
Speaker 1: topic I want to talk about is my main man,
Speaker 1: O J. Simpsons, fellow trojan. He went to usc UM,
Speaker 1: but he's on social media now and he's doing not
Speaker 1: just like posts, he's doing videos. What is this purpose? Well,
Speaker 1: he did say he had some get back to do.
Speaker 1: I gotta get back at some people, very vague and
Speaker 1: and and on one of them. Ron Goldman has been
Speaker 1: taking shots at him though it don't matter. And if
Speaker 1: and if he's innocent, If he's innocent as he portrayed,
Speaker 1: you get tired of getting shots taken at you. Absolutely
Speaker 1: he's in this and he got found not guilty on that,
Speaker 1: then he got the right to respond. Then if you
Speaker 1: believe that responding, you haven't been through too much. You
Speaker 1: didn't just got out of jail in Las Vegas, which
Speaker 1: they only liked your ass up because you be Yeah
Speaker 1: they job. Yeah, he went to jailing Nevada for killing
Speaker 1: Nicole And yeah, that's what that was about. All that
Speaker 1: was so you get out of jail after nine? Are
Speaker 1: you doing nine? Nine? Yeah? When he was saying to
Speaker 1: nine he did, he just sencety but but they what
Speaker 1: you called him was different than are a little different.
Speaker 1: So you get out of jail, O j after you
Speaker 1: just did this time, don't you? Don't you think these
Speaker 1: white people had enough of you. You should be tired,
Speaker 1: you should be somewhere sick. They're gonna put a case
Speaker 1: on him, on this guy black man, and relax made
Speaker 1: it out of there live. I understand, because i'd have
Speaker 1: been falsely a killed in his seventies. Though, sit down,
Speaker 1: your fight is over. You just gave him motherfucker's seven years. Well,
Speaker 1: technically his fights never over because he's still he lost
Speaker 1: a civil suit for thirty million dollars thirty three million dollars,
Speaker 1: so he's got to keep on navigating his finances in
Speaker 1: a way. He can't live a month and all you
Speaker 1: want to do is play golf, then something's wrong. But
Speaker 1: even other things. I'm sure he's used to a certain lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Well he shouldn't be. He just got a prison for yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got yeahn get your new news like you've been doing,
Speaker 1: programmed like you've been programming and and and just disappeared
Speaker 1: from these people. I wouldn't even have a phone. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even sit here no, you can't have a picture.
Speaker 1: This is how, this is how. I just want to
Speaker 1: be left alone. I want to spend the rest of
Speaker 1: my days with my han me, my kids, my grandkids,
Speaker 1: and just relax. O. J. Simpson, get you a goddamn
Speaker 1: rocking chair and stop. These white people ain't playing with
Speaker 1: you and you know it, so stop doing all this
Speaker 1: over funny as ship. You're too old to be on
Speaker 1: my Twitter or tweeting and doing whatever. Ship, Yeah, stop
Speaker 1: whatever that. And then he just and he having a
Speaker 1: ball with it. Man, ship back. Don't nobody owe you ship,
Speaker 1: like you said a long time ago, and you don't
Speaker 1: know nobody else. Ship. You too old for this ship.
Speaker 1: You're gonna next name. You know you're gonna be sitting
Speaker 1: over there with Bill Cosby talking about why stop this ship?
Speaker 1: You see, they have to get you. This ship ain't
Speaker 1: never dirty and Nevada because all it was he was
Speaker 1: trying to retreat stuff. But he took a gun or
Speaker 1: when his dudes had a gun and he took the
Speaker 1: wrong motherfucker's that put him in Friston. Yeah, they all
Speaker 1: told on him. And then Nevada has a weird way
Speaker 1: of defining kidnapping. If I don't let you go off
Speaker 1: that Door's California too, I'm kidnapping. You have to move
Speaker 1: the person from room to room. But in Nevada, you
Speaker 1: got to prevent something from moving. Now we just got
Speaker 1: to moving in California, got a movie. In Nevada, I
Speaker 1: gotta prevent you from moving, and that's kidnapping. So that's
Speaker 1: why he got stretched out in Nevada, where they had
Speaker 1: to give him something they would. I think that Jazz
Speaker 1: finally said on TMZ that's why she got hire. I
Speaker 1: think she retired. And I think because you just got
Speaker 1: away with two murders. He just beat two murders. He's
Speaker 1: to luck at his black man on the planet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now if he if he did it, if you didn't
Speaker 1: even beating the case, beat a people. But when you
Speaker 1: leave that food close call, that's the rest of your
Speaker 1: life in the penitentiary. You just didged a hell of
Speaker 1: a bullet. Now, as a black man, go shit down somewhere,
Speaker 1: find a resort, go chill. No, he's springing up in
Speaker 1: Vegas and he walking the holes like he gangster. Now
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay your ass, They're gonna check you now,
Speaker 1: So I whldn't have walking out of that. Well, the
Speaker 1: one good thing from Twitter come out there. I think
Speaker 1: he's finally said cold, he's not his daughter and he
Speaker 1: never had sex with with Chris Jenner. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess so when I mentioned last time when we had
Speaker 1: Spider Locus, to guess that there were three people in
Speaker 1: that courtroom that o J had sexual relations with. But
Speaker 1: he's saying he never mess that's what he said. But
Speaker 1: then I heard the time when he said they did
Speaker 1: it in uh in asana and when um Jacuzzi when
Speaker 1: they got a little drunk. So you know who's really
Speaker 1: mad at o J for being on social media? I
Speaker 1: heard this person speak out a couple of days ago, specifically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like anything what she said because that's what she believed.
Speaker 1: But look, she just started a new podcast. She's in
Speaker 1: the same category as us, and her podcast shot all
Speaker 1: the way up to number two and she only did
Speaker 1: three episodes because the name of it is confronting o J.
Speaker 1: Simpson and everybody. That's the subject everybody want to hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm quite sure what after that though, when you
Speaker 1: try to talking about o J, she can be crying
Speaker 1: about her brother. Well, I mean, he put her ship.
Speaker 1: She was asked, and she was asked the other day,
Speaker 1: would you have o J on your podcast? You know what?
Speaker 1: The answer was, yes, Yeah, she said she wants to
Speaker 1: ask him a bunch of questions because she's about she's
Speaker 1: about money, she's about some other ship. She I mean,
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't do that as he just the agitator,
Speaker 1: Oh Jay trying to fuck her like come here, girl,
Speaker 1: you do kind of flipper. It's real serious to me
Speaker 1: because we lose every day. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We lose every day out here, and for for o
Speaker 1: J to win, it makes everybody look bad that that
Speaker 1: that was cheering for him and was happy that he
Speaker 1: beat this case, for him to get out there, and
Speaker 1: constantly I wonder if we would support him like we
Speaker 1: did then, because you know, you gotta remember why we
Speaker 1: supported him so tough, because o J always considered himself
Speaker 1: like tiger. Yeah. And so the reason we supported him though,
Speaker 1: because it just happened after one the riots, and and yeah,
Speaker 1: was the perfect time. The climate of Los Angeles was
Speaker 1: perfect trial. But I'm looking at you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people will be offended that we're over here laughing,
Speaker 1: you know, because two people were murdered. But like you said,
Speaker 1: we lose people all the time, you know, we we
Speaker 1: we're laughing at the situation. We're laughing at O J.
Speaker 1: N and want to make a light up And thought,
Speaker 1: my interviewer, I really think it is a is A
Speaker 1: is a touching matter and and I mean we can't
Speaker 1: take light of it because of O. J. Simpson. Look
Speaker 1: what he're doing. Come on, man, how many times you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna win? How many times you are you
Speaker 1: winning to lose? Just to fucking play with these people?
Speaker 1: And and and this motherfucker's out there fighting every day
Speaker 1: murder cases, and and and lose this dude one to
Speaker 1: murder cases when he had everybody against him. And then
Speaker 1: you get out here and just run a mark. You
Speaker 1: you you funked up in Vegas. Now you're out of
Speaker 1: here on this on TV. You two motherfucking old making
Speaker 1: a show an example to us. Uh speak on something
Speaker 1: that that happened in there. Let us know some positive ship.
Speaker 1: You ain't giving us that you should not here making
Speaker 1: your ship look stupid. And then the next motherfucker, yeah
Speaker 1: he does look very silly videos, but it's it's some
Speaker 1: hell of entertainment though. I mean, I many subscribers followers.
Speaker 1: That's our problem. We laughing ship that shouldn't be. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't laugh at because it makes all of us look
Speaker 1: fucked up, every black man and every black motherfucker walking
Speaker 1: out there looking at him, and I think it's funny. No,
Speaker 1: it's not funny. It's sad that this dude is out
Speaker 1: of here like that. We don't win every day like
Speaker 1: heat doing it. We can't. O Man. O J is
Speaker 1: always gonna be news regardless. You know, the Trial of
Speaker 1: the Century and he was the center of it. Old news.
Speaker 1: Let us stay old news. It's it's kind of difficult
Speaker 1: when you got Kim Goldman that just came out with
Speaker 1: a brand new podcast called Confronting o J in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Confront you know J. If you don't never
Speaker 1: get o J on their responding and none of this ship.
Speaker 1: What do she have she has? She has a really
Speaker 1: nice title of a podcast. I mean, let's change your
Speaker 1: trust me. They reach out J O J will happen
Speaker 1: crazy as up there now, They're gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: o J to come on there. They probably got to
Speaker 1: pay him like a hundred thousand. Well, let's change your
Speaker 1: name from against chronicles or something. And you think Twitter
Speaker 1: is going to put the blue check next to his
Speaker 1: Twitter handle to show that he's the real o J.
Speaker 1: Because his handle is the real o J thirty two
Speaker 1: and he's got seven hundred and fifty thousand followers in
Speaker 1: what a week. He's about to hit a million in
Speaker 1: a few days, and um, yeah, I wonder if Twitter
Speaker 1: is gonna give him the blue the blue mark that
Speaker 1: says this is the real o J page. And he
Speaker 1: also wanted to address that too. He said, Look, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of fact o J pages on Twitter. That's
Speaker 1: another reason why he said he went on. He's like, look,
Speaker 1: there's people pretending that that they're mad and posting stuff
Speaker 1: out there and that's not me. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: legitimate to say, hey, we'll still you could you could
Speaker 1: make a page and you don't have to do all
Speaker 1: that ship you're doing on that And then have you
Speaker 1: see his picture? This is what we live in. People
Speaker 1: be like, my wife could make me. You're fifty something
Speaker 1: years old, Why are you on YouTube all the time?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? Like this is the age
Speaker 1: week now, so we don't know what what a sixty
Speaker 1: or seventy year old man supposed to be doing that.
Speaker 1: That looks good for his seventies though. Yeah, well j well,
Speaker 1: prison they say, preserve your life. But um uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just like Donald Trump, he's on Twitter. Have we ever
Speaker 1: had a president that tweeked this much? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, we don't know. I don't follow him. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't do that. Dude, you didn't do YouTube?
Speaker 1: Tell you year ago? Now you one of the biggest
Speaker 1: niggers on YouTube. Well he's seventy one years old, and
Speaker 1: I think he looked all right for seventy one. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gon, we're all going age. But I
Speaker 1: just think you need to slow down. And I think
Speaker 1: people that's on his page should should hit him telling
Speaker 1: I don't see this is not you's your biggest or
Speaker 1: best memory of that time when he was on trial?
Speaker 1: Any any stories because this is also the death Row days.
Speaker 1: If it don't fit you much when this trial was
Speaker 1: going on. If it don't fit well, that was which
Speaker 1: his name is, mistake, Um, Christopher Darden. The thing is
Speaker 1: that here's the thing. They say that some of those
Speaker 1: the gloves kind of shrink a little bit. When they've
Speaker 1: been soaking in blood for a while, they don't maintain
Speaker 1: its size. So to have O J try on a
Speaker 1: glove that possibly shrank was a huge mistake. And plus
Speaker 1: I think OJ had to wear a latex glove underneath it,
Speaker 1: so he's got a layer of glove because it's considered evident.
Speaker 1: And heaggerated and he acting. He did a little acting
Speaker 1: in front of the jury, and I think that might
Speaker 1: have turned the trial. Trial was the racist statement that
Speaker 1: people were anti law enforcement, like you said, we just
Speaker 1: had the I as we had just had the Rodney
Speaker 1: King incident, and people just wouldn't We wasn't tolerating um.
Speaker 1: And for those that are too, you don't remember. Mark
Speaker 1: Ferman went on the stand. He was asked, have you
Speaker 1: ever used the word nigger in your career? And he
Speaker 1: said never? And then I think eff Lee Bailey was
Speaker 1: was crossing him and he said are you sure have
Speaker 1: you ever said the word nigger in any context? He
Speaker 1: said never, and then boom, they had all these audio
Speaker 1: taping them saying niggatives, niggadid LPD we they you know.
Speaker 1: Darrel Gates was Darrell Gates tolerated a lot of things
Speaker 1: from the the white officers back in the day. And
Speaker 1: you know, I heard that Wilsher Division, Wilshr Division is
Speaker 1: one of eight Well back then it was eighteen l
Speaker 1: APD divisions. Now it's twenty one. But they used to
Speaker 1: call Wilsher Division the other cops, the white cops called
Speaker 1: Wilsher Division Nigger Division because when you got out of
Speaker 1: the academy as a black cop, you wanted to be
Speaker 1: with other black cops, right, So they would say, Hey,
Speaker 1: assignment to Wilsher because I know some black cops there
Speaker 1: that I could go too. So eventually every black cop
Speaker 1: out of the academy wanted to get assigned to Wilshire Division.
Speaker 1: So all the white cops started calling Wilshire Division Nigga Division. Well,
Speaker 1: they must have a black captain or something over that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just where because I thought they would
Speaker 1: have went southeast seventies seven. And it also comes from
Speaker 1: um from the dude, frank Liga. Frank was one of
Speaker 1: those guys that was calling. From what I understand from
Speaker 1: some of my retired contacts, this is coming from retired
Speaker 1: black l APD officers that I personally know that frank
Speaker 1: Liga was one of those that, Yeah, that's nigga division.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I mean when you have a ten
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve thousand law enforcement officers and majority of
Speaker 1: them are are white, Um, you're gonna have that type
Speaker 1: of thinking, aspecially when they were up and manage. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that type of anything, but you have it
Speaker 1: right here at this radio station that we're sitting there
Speaker 1: now when you have a you know what, a majority
Speaker 1: of white people, and it showed you what what this?
Speaker 1: What this the polling and stuff with Donald Trump? When
Speaker 1: when when when people were older acts you're gonna vote
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump? They said no, no, no, But once
Speaker 1: they got in no boots, Polly both officer that you know,
Speaker 1: that's a good officer that he was job good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just one officer that was good at his job, Mark
Speaker 1: Mark Anderson. Um, just Bobby Now if he was a
Speaker 1: KKK and you knew he was a classman, but you
Speaker 1: know he just worked as good with your him as
Speaker 1: a police officer. If I know that he was fair
Speaker 1: and then beat over with people and with a hiring
Speaker 1: knowing he was a KKK. Remember, you gotta hesitate on
Speaker 1: that one. I mean because we said two things. He
Speaker 1: said that he's doing his job and he's fair doing
Speaker 1: his job. He's a good work acting, but you know
Speaker 1: he's a KATEKK. Would you hire him? But he has
Speaker 1: a good work and he was fair, just because you
Speaker 1: don't know what I believe, what I feel like, I don't,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying about doing your job. If you
Speaker 1: said just saying a person do their job, they fair,
Speaker 1: that's a big, big statement that you're saying that he's
Speaker 1: fair that I worked with and he was and he
Speaker 1: does his job, and but when he goes home he's
Speaker 1: this way. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's just like saying, would you this this guy is good,
Speaker 1: but when he goes home he sleeping with man. I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what he does when he go home.
Speaker 1: You have a sexual preference. Is way different from being
Speaker 1: a part of the clue, klux, Klan or religious. I
Speaker 1: mean some people will say that's their realist. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He said the word fair, and that's what kind of
Speaker 1: through the word because you have to think in your
Speaker 1: subconscious Okay, I know he's a good man, but goddamn,
Speaker 1: he's a KKK that goes against everything. A police officer
Speaker 1: should be he should not have this type of mentality.
Speaker 1: What's can you be fair? And b k K came no, no,
Speaker 1: but treat questions. Okay, alright, no you can't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You got white things. A lot of closet race, racism,
Speaker 1: racist people that we deal with daily, and the police
Speaker 1: department as well. I think everywhere, I think everywhere, I
Speaker 1: think in life, and lap D has a long lineage
Speaker 1: of hiring Southern white racist cops. Well, now they're doing
Speaker 1: their worse. Guess what they hearing? That's racist? The biggest
Speaker 1: ain't more racist. I fear no Mexicans more than white folks.
Speaker 1: That's actually deep. Well, I think the way I think
Speaker 1: the concept, it's because you're in more you're in contact
Speaker 1: with Mexicans. Maybe that's why. But I fear white institutional
Speaker 1: racism more than Mexican racism more than I fear white
Speaker 1: Mexican That's crazy, because they were Uncle Tom will hurt
Speaker 1: you quicker than than anybody. That's true. Yeah, absolutely, look
Speaker 1: at Clarence Thomas. He is dangerous. But um, what are
Speaker 1: some memories from from that that period of the O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson trial that stand out? Because y'all was making hit
Speaker 1: records while O J was fighting for his life. That
Speaker 1: was right before pop came because I think the trial
Speaker 1: he was acquitted in October. Yeah, so he sat and
Speaker 1: he sat in high power for one year from ninety
Speaker 1: four to ninety five, was going through uh snoop, I
Speaker 1: think his case was over. No, No, his case went
Speaker 1: over until six sometime in ninety Okay, sometime in ninety
Speaker 1: six is when you got to quit it. And do
Speaker 1: you remember he was being prosecuted by Bobby Grace, a
Speaker 1: black prosecutor. Yeah, I didn't remember. He's a he's a
Speaker 1: good guy. Bobby Grace is interesting prosecutor. He actually told
Speaker 1: me he is he is against the death penalty as
Speaker 1: a person, but if his boss is tell him you
Speaker 1: got to prosecute it, he's gonna do it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is because I kind of thought that you wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to be a prosecutor. I wouldn't if I'm against that,
Speaker 1: Why would I do it? Just because? And he's been
Speaker 1: public about that. He would publicly say I'm against the
Speaker 1: death penalty, but if i'm I'm gonna do it, which
Speaker 1: is you know, but he's he's actually one of my
Speaker 1: favorite prosecutors. Bobby Grace, he prosecuted because what's the word.
Speaker 1: He's fair. He's very fair, and that's what's that's what
Speaker 1: he don't come in there with all the theatrics. He doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, give you a lot of over the top.
Speaker 1: So I've done a lot of trial watching. I've seen
Speaker 1: him do his job, and I think he's a fair prosecutor.
Speaker 1: Although I did think the case against Snoop was a
Speaker 1: little over the top. I kind of knew that was
Speaker 1: gonna go because the dude, I knew that they were
Speaker 1: going to argue that there was a self defense. You know.
Speaker 1: In fact, Bobby Grace ten years later prosecuted another He
Speaker 1: messed a big time on the trial, Bobby Gray. He
Speaker 1: baked his whole thing into the rebuttal. And what David
Speaker 1: Kinner and then did was they didn't put on any defense.
Speaker 1: They rest the case, no witnesses anything, right right after
Speaker 1: they let the prosecute put on the case and he
Speaker 1: was gonna put most of himself in the rebuttal and
Speaker 1: they rest. So all he did was just cross examined,
Speaker 1: and that was the case. What was interesting, Bobby Grace
Speaker 1: actually prosecuted another case that I watched it was a
Speaker 1: guy that got shot at the Beverly Center and it
Speaker 1: was almost identical to the Snoop Dog case. And I
Speaker 1: was sitting there watching this and I'm like, they're gonna
Speaker 1: come back not guilty. And they came back not guilty
Speaker 1: like that case. Even though it's not his high profile,
Speaker 1: it was a mirror. It was very similar to Snoop DOGG.
Speaker 1: Same prosecutors, same defense. Uh, this guy got shot in
Speaker 1: the Beverley Center and he got shot in the back
Speaker 1: as as the victim and snoopcase was shot in the back.
Speaker 1: This guy was shot in and uh, Philip Walder mar
Speaker 1: and this guy was shot in the back. The guy
Speaker 1: I'm talking about as a rapper named Dollar, Roderick Burton.
Speaker 1: He was an up and coming from Atta, and they
Speaker 1: charged they followed him from Atlanta. That was all. They charged.
Speaker 1: A guy named Aubrey Berry who was also from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They put it like the followed There were so many
Speaker 1: rumors out there, but in the trial they showed that
Speaker 1: actually Aubrey Berry came out here for a meeting because
Speaker 1: he was a club promoter, and Roderick Burton Dollar came
Speaker 1: out here to work on his music and he came
Speaker 1: out here for a birthday just by coincidence. They both
Speaker 1: flew to Los Angeles from from Georgia, and they both
Speaker 1: crossed paths at the same rest of run at the
Speaker 1: same time. It was a bizarre case, but it reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Snoop Doggs case. But he
Speaker 1: was found not guilty. But yeah, what about the whole O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson trial. What do you guys remember from that? From
Speaker 1: that time? I really I'm not guilty. For me, I'm
Speaker 1: not guilty. Man. It was a good thing too, because
Speaker 1: I just knew they was filmed. Man, he just killed
Speaker 1: what two white people? They're not gonna let him off
Speaker 1: this so allegedly, and uh, look how he looked at me,
Speaker 1: So I figured he don't. But when he came back
Speaker 1: not guilty, Johnny Cochrane was my hero. This is one
Speaker 1: cold mom right here. But then, uh, if it don't
Speaker 1: fit you much, to quit was my second Other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, he got lucky. We won't hear from
Speaker 1: him no more. And the slow speed uh chase, That's
Speaker 1: what I remember, the chase and the silicide letter. Also,
Speaker 1: they had a fair judge. Judge lance Itto is considered
Speaker 1: one of the most fair judges in that courthouse. And
Speaker 1: you know he did. But he did his job. When
Speaker 1: the cameras in, you you'd be a little fair too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you have to be. Yeah, And like they
Speaker 1: wanted to let in he had another high profile. He
Speaker 1: kept some of those tapes out that Mark Ferman was
Speaker 1: saying all these things, but he said, I gotta let
Speaker 1: some in. You know, we'll we'll exclude something, but I'll
Speaker 1: let a couple in. But yeah, Lance, Lance Itto is
Speaker 1: a very fair judge and I think that also worked
Speaker 1: to O. J. Simpsons advantage. What stood out to me
Speaker 1: in that trial, you know the supervisor on that uh,
Speaker 1: on the d A that was like Marcia Clark and
Speaker 1: then boss you gotta had the heart attack? Uh what's
Speaker 1: his name? Just he's the one the prosecutor ship after
Speaker 1: that case. Okay, So I just recovered and came back.
Speaker 1: He prosecuted him on the paroviolation. Okay. Yeah, In fact,
Speaker 1: I do remember seeing him in that footage. Yeah. What
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is what stood out to me.
Speaker 1: I remember Efflee Bailey was cross examining someone on the
Speaker 1: stand and he showed that there were two sets of
Speaker 1: footprints in the blood there, and I always found that
Speaker 1: interesting because there's not a lot of talk about it.
Speaker 1: They've all admitted or confirmed that, Yeah, there are two
Speaker 1: sets of footprints. One set is the Brunomalley shoes that
Speaker 1: apparently o J owned, but another set of footprints was
Speaker 1: in there. And Effley barely kept on saying, explained to
Speaker 1: me how these footprints are in there, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: explain it to him. So that just means two people
Speaker 1: were there, you know. And and it doesn't mean o
Speaker 1: J was there, and most people don't know that. It
Speaker 1: was the rumor and is that she owed it some drugs,
Speaker 1: some drug dealers, some money and that's why they did
Speaker 1: their hit on her. Yeah, I mean that was the it.
Speaker 1: I mean he was mad because you know the way
Speaker 1: she dissed him at the at the at the the
Speaker 1: recital and with the family. Okay, so I am taking
Speaker 1: care of his white taking up for this white woman.
Speaker 1: God never, you can't keep beating my ass and I
Speaker 1: was supposed to accept that ship. You're doing me bad
Speaker 1: when my people were asking questions and you constantly hurt
Speaker 1: me in front of my kids. At some point, fuck
Speaker 1: you would woo let me ask you this. It was
Speaker 1: a man his age. I think he was in his
Speaker 1: mid to late forties with lower back problems, capable of
Speaker 1: that type of the next day golf is different from
Speaker 1: I'm about to stab two people to death and one
Speaker 1: might be fighting for his life. Right she was, She's
Speaker 1: probably not an issue. But ron Goldman was a young, fresh,
Speaker 1: strong dude. They said he had a lot of um
Speaker 1: damage to his like, he had defense moves, He had
Speaker 1: a lot of defense wounds. So what I mean he
Speaker 1: was fighting for his life. But if he had that
Speaker 1: much defense wounds, wouldn't that some hope scratch has been
Speaker 1: on o J. A lot of scratches should have been
Speaker 1: on o J. And o j's DNA should have been
Speaker 1: under his finger. Now they have a couple of drops
Speaker 1: of blood well in the sink. Yeah, well I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be shaving myself all the time and be saying blood.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, man, I hope that now the ship.
Speaker 1: Do you agree that there should be o J's DNA
Speaker 1: on Ronald Goldman's body somewhere but that was never found. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we we we recast. I don't
Speaker 1: want to convicted old J. I said, I didn't convict
Speaker 1: him at all. What you're doing and ship your old
Speaker 1: last down. I'll tell you another interesting thing about the trial.
Speaker 1: It was it was aired on Channel five kt L
Speaker 1: A Marta Waller, a b C s even you know.
Speaker 1: But they were doing it live every day every day.
Speaker 1: That's when that Channel five had it from Gavel to
Speaker 1: Gavel yea like no other channels. But they had to
Speaker 1: take commercial break. And I was reading this in a
Speaker 1: book called O. J. Simpsons Sat on Facts and Fictions
Speaker 1: by Darnell Hunt. He examined the trial and how it
Speaker 1: was aired. They would often take their commercial breaks when
Speaker 1: the defense was presenting their case. So if you watch
Speaker 1: this trial on TV, you got a biased look at
Speaker 1: the trial. Even though you think you saw everything in
Speaker 1: the trial, those commercial breaks were when Johnny or fth
Speaker 1: Lee Bailey or the DNA guy Barry Scheck was doing
Speaker 1: their thing. So even if you claim you watched it,
Speaker 1: you didn't really see everything because of the commercial fine
Speaker 1: tic that was sitting behind Johnny all the time, Sean
Speaker 1: what was her name, she's a big time attorney. Now
Speaker 1: it's a little cute thing. Yeah, remember his like little
Speaker 1: assistant junior trial. But she's big now. She she got
Speaker 1: her name was Sean something. I don't I don't remember anyone.
Speaker 1: Her and Carl Carl, Carl Douglas were the little youngster. Douglas,
Speaker 1: that's my main man right there. He's powerful now. He
Speaker 1: took a case. He took a case of a big yo.
Speaker 1: I captured the l A p D shooting and killing
Speaker 1: a guy on Crenshaw and Slosson back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. I captured the whole thing on video. He
Speaker 1: took that case for the family of the victim um
Speaker 1: and it was a huge civil case, fifteen million dollar case,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the few cases that Carl Douglas
Speaker 1: has lost and lost it. It was an amazing kid.
Speaker 1: That actually brought me into the the trial because because
Speaker 1: that's the auten to kick the video and it was
Speaker 1: really crazy. I came in to testify. They had been
Speaker 1: this case has been going through the system for over
Speaker 1: a year, maybe two years, and Carl Douglas got me
Speaker 1: up there, understand, to explain what happened. He's asked me first,
Speaker 1: he's asking my credentials. He actually told me, you're the
Speaker 1: best eyewitness I've ever had. Because I went to school,
Speaker 1: and I got these degrees and I'm working on this
Speaker 1: and I'm doing that. He said, you're the perfect eye
Speaker 1: witness that you wanted for a civil case. I get
Speaker 1: up there and I'm testifying, and he's asking me about
Speaker 1: what did I see? And I said, I saw the
Speaker 1: cops shoot how many times? Like over times? Anti police
Speaker 1: came through to the jury. They I didn't even I
Speaker 1: was only did authenticate the video. But as um as
Speaker 1: he's asking me about what I saw and how many
Speaker 1: bullets were shot and what I know, how I saw
Speaker 1: him on the ground, actually got emotional, understand, completely unexpected.
Speaker 1: I was like, give me a minute, man, because I
Speaker 1: actually witnesses do die. I videotaped his last breath and
Speaker 1: he asked me to relive this. Never got emotional about
Speaker 1: it at all until he's asking me these questions on
Speaker 1: the stand. And I'm going back thinking, does kral Douglas
Speaker 1: know the trigger questions? Because I think he wanted me
Speaker 1: to do that. I think I think he pulled that
Speaker 1: out of me in some kind of clever way that attorneys,
Speaker 1: you know, dig deep into the bag. And the way
Speaker 1: he lost the cases in civil court. You don't need
Speaker 1: unanimous you don't need all twelve jurors to say yes
Speaker 1: or no. You only need a nine nine out of twelve,
Speaker 1: nine out. So what happened? They came back six six.
Speaker 1: They were split. Six said the cops are wrong. Six
Speaker 1: said the cops were right. So the judge told him
Speaker 1: to go back there and continue deliberating. So the six
Speaker 1: that said the cops are right, we're able to get
Speaker 1: three of the other six that said the cops are
Speaker 1: wrong to go on their side. Came back nine three.
Speaker 1: Carl Douglas loses. The city of Los Angeles wins. You've
Speaker 1: been watching this video. Hey, I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: the whole trial. I just came in there, authenticated the
Speaker 1: video and left, so I didn't see all the other witnesses,
Speaker 1: all the evidence. But hey, for six jurors to say
Speaker 1: the cops are wrong, they were kind of feeling Carl Douglas.
Speaker 1: But hey, one of the few cases that he rarely
Speaker 1: loses the case, and he won't take a case unless
Speaker 1: he feels like he's gonna win. He won a big one.
Speaker 1: He won four billion dollar case. Four guess four behind
Speaker 1: some family catching on fire on one of the cars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were Ethiopian or African and the card on fire,
Speaker 1: the card from from the crash four billion dollars. All right,
Speaker 1: let's just cover one more thing before. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they settled for cheaper because I'm sure they appealed.
Speaker 1: All right, last thing, um red. Just as a question
Speaker 1: that comes and I think it's really interesting. What can
Speaker 1: you talk about the day to day operations at death
Speaker 1: Row when you took over, when you became this guess
Speaker 1: after Sugar got violated, and were you involved with signing
Speaker 1: artists and who else ran the label? All right, um,
Speaker 1: there the operations were wake up in the morning, you
Speaker 1: pull up at Samvasanth and Wilsha every day. I mean
Speaker 1: I went there, but I didn't do it in the morning.
Speaker 1: I had Shook happened, just like everybody did. I did
Speaker 1: most of my stuff on the phone. I got to
Speaker 1: the office about three four every day, but you know,
Speaker 1: I was on the phone because she was calling. He
Speaker 1: was calling me like I used to sit on the
Speaker 1: phone with Shook from probably about through nine. But luckily
Speaker 1: it was going to the office. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: crazy back then. From nine to twelve, we're calling everybody,
Speaker 1: many his women. And then from twelve and one he
Speaker 1: went to lunch, so that's when I start getting dressed.
Speaker 1: Then they I think they did a count about two
Speaker 1: or something and and and then um, I think until four.
Speaker 1: So I got on the phone. So between that time,
Speaker 1: I was usually traveling, uh traveling because I live in
Speaker 1: Corona and Riverside, California, and I was driving. Well my
Speaker 1: boy got he was driving me, thank god, you know.
Speaker 1: He was helping me out a lot with that. And
Speaker 1: so Bobby would come and pick me up and drive
Speaker 1: me to work and we will get there about four o'clock.
Speaker 1: And and so that was the day to day operations.
Speaker 1: But Thursday through Sunday I was up at the prison
Speaker 1: with him, dealing with him and um mill Creek and
Speaker 1: uh see him I which was the one who things
Speaker 1: was in baseball for the first couple of years. From
Speaker 1: see m C sm C, I was that somebody big?
Speaker 1: Is that SEMC right now? They called them MC the
Speaker 1: China doll, right, I think it's China doll. Well, it's
Speaker 1: so important for you to see sugar so many times
Speaker 1: and win prison was just talking mainly talking about what's
Speaker 1: going on, how to deal with stuff. Did you have
Speaker 1: a feeling that this label was about to sink it.
Speaker 1: Didn't think that's the That's the thing. During my tenure,
Speaker 1: we sold DA's album, DA's Retaliation Get Back. We had
Speaker 1: two soundtracks, Gang Related and Gridlocked. All of these are
Speaker 1: albums that went platinum. We did until the end of time.
Speaker 1: But those were deals already in the that would already
Speaker 1: made before Sugar went to prison, right because Gang Related. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean deals were made, but they had to be
Speaker 1: completed and the album had to be distributed and worked. Um.
Speaker 1: But in terms of getting new artists, don't get the artists,
Speaker 1: don't get to that. Keeping artists, we uh negotiated the y'all.
Speaker 1: Don't y'all get mad when I say sale. But the
Speaker 1: assignment of Snoop contract to to priority a masterp uh.
Speaker 1: That got us four and a half million dollars and
Speaker 1: the override was instrumental and that um we made an override.
Speaker 1: That's why we call it the last meal, or he
Speaker 1: called it the last minute. Wouldn't have been better to
Speaker 1: keep keep Snoop as one of the marquee artists, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Why not? He didn't want to be there?
Speaker 1: One and number two we made seven percent, seven to
Speaker 1: ten percent off of each album that he did with
Speaker 1: No No Limit got four and a half million dollars.
Speaker 1: Gave him a million dollars of that, and they say
Speaker 1: we owe you any more money and the books are
Speaker 1: clean with you. But you could have made way more
Speaker 1: money if he was happy at Death Row making two, three,
Speaker 1: four more. But but but Snoop didn't have a great run.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a great run. I mean, think about
Speaker 1: the albums that he did after he left us. Uh,
Speaker 1: he didn't start doing real good until Bitch Police would
Speaker 1: exhibit he did. Said like I said, we still had
Speaker 1: an override on him. So you know the Snoop thing,
Speaker 1: um uh. The only albums that did bad under my
Speaker 1: watch or whatever. In my opinion, Mr Lay's album and
Speaker 1: the Lady of Rage album I always wanted to gang related.
Speaker 1: I mean, death Row greatest hits did overtend to twelve
Speaker 1: me and uh album sales, which which wouldn't have happened
Speaker 1: if it wasn't with me because she was pissed that
Speaker 1: I allowed track masters to do that that song, um uh,
Speaker 1: that remix that he did on the album of Changes.
Speaker 1: Are you a better businessman when it came to Death
Speaker 1: Row than Sugar? Business wise? I think so because I
Speaker 1: was easier, easier to deal with and and and um
Speaker 1: it was more precise, but creatively and and and marketing.
Speaker 1: I don't I think she is still one of the
Speaker 1: best of that James, what did you want to ask? Reggie?
Speaker 1: My question is transitioning from the police station the death row.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that ship hard man? I gotta get to this,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this. I got you really had to
Speaker 1: be on your toes. And then on top of that,
Speaker 1: sugar and trusted you with were just big as company
Speaker 1: while he was gone. The good thing I was, but
Speaker 1: I still was able to communicate. It wasn't like he
Speaker 1: was just gone, I know, but I was still able
Speaker 1: to communicate with him, and and that that would be
Speaker 1: my problem, being nervous of feeling Did you ever feel
Speaker 1: like you was gonna you weren't gonna be able to
Speaker 1: do this ship? I think my confidence was there, and
Speaker 1: I had been around him for two years every day
Speaker 1: before he went to jail. You remember from you pretty
Speaker 1: much picked up. I was with that nigger, traveling, going
Speaker 1: to meeting. He used to let us go on meetings
Speaker 1: with him. You know, he didn't keep us outside, He
Speaker 1: didn't bring you in. You know he was, so he
Speaker 1: was in there, said when he was meeting with with
Speaker 1: Ted Fields or Jimmy Ivan or Anchar Broflan or those
Speaker 1: types of people you know, uh uh the guy from
Speaker 1: Time Warner, you know, he would bring you know, Lee
Speaker 1: or Corn and Russell Simon. He would pretty much have
Speaker 1: you in no meetings with him. So when he when
Speaker 1: he went to prison, you was pretty much like the
Speaker 1: again already and didn't have to that part. But mainly
Speaker 1: I still had him to lean on. I still say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. How would you do? You know?
Speaker 1: I mainly would do it on the phone when we're talking.
Speaker 1: How would you deal with this situation? Man? I came
Speaker 1: up with this situation because you know, you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to run a business California, stay low while while you're
Speaker 1: in prison. You're not allowed to run a business. And
Speaker 1: so I would say, well, you know, how would how
Speaker 1: would you have at this situation if he was you know,
Speaker 1: if you had to deal with that. To be honest,
Speaker 1: Ship didn't really care. I'll be caring about because that
Speaker 1: was the problem I had. I was dealing with his
Speaker 1: personal life and his business deal mainly most of the
Speaker 1: problems came was from his women and his and his
Speaker 1: and not his parents, his mama, you know, his mother.
Speaker 1: And they were they were like, well, she'll, I want
Speaker 1: to do this. I want to do that, and then
Speaker 1: I want this, I need this, I need a new car,
Speaker 1: I need this, I need this, or his sisters need
Speaker 1: this or or whatever, and then I will go to ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mims called about this and no answer. Well, she'll, you
Speaker 1: must ain't telling Shi that, uh, I said, and too
Speaker 1: you know you look yeah, And he was mad. He
Speaker 1: was an angry man in prison. She was a hater.
Speaker 1: I mean, our boy did we talk about all day Bountry.
Speaker 1: I can tell you all some stories of the things
Speaker 1: that I then did to say, shed, I need to
Speaker 1: do this, dog, I need that, and then we'll be
Speaker 1: like and they didn't find out I did it, and
Speaker 1: then they'd be like, oh, I'm glad you did it. Rich. Well.
Speaker 1: Another part of this question is asking did you sign
Speaker 1: any new artists? Crooked Eye? Uh, the rillists, Top doll Um, Uh,
Speaker 1: Top doll the Rillists, Crooked Eye, who was all going on?
Speaker 1: And pretty much anybody that was on Chronic two thousand.
Speaker 1: Her cobain Um gave him a lot more responsibility as
Speaker 1: a producer, made Das gave Das more of a role.
Speaker 1: Um as a producer. Did they all come out with albums? Uh?
Speaker 1: After different type of compilations. We had one call um. Well,
Speaker 1: of course all the Tupac stuff, you know, we remade
Speaker 1: and I said they all lost the Laws. Wasn't signed
Speaker 1: to the record company, uh uh, because they were going
Speaker 1: to sign straight to Tupac to to his record label.
Speaker 1: Minus one member well fatal, yeah, yeah, fatal. Uh. He
Speaker 1: got sent home by Pop prior to uh um, you know,
Speaker 1: to to Parc. Dan was after Pop. I said he
Speaker 1: had got something. That's why he wasn't out there. So
Speaker 1: it was the outlaw still trying to do their thing
Speaker 1: with one one less member. Well, they got another one.
Speaker 1: That's when Noble came in. That's when Noble came around.
Speaker 1: So it was four of them. So how did how
Speaker 1: did the company do financially with these new artists that
Speaker 1: you signed? New groups artists we were and that's why
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain. Um, you know the Chronic
Speaker 1: two thousand one. If you go listen to that album,
Speaker 1: that was a good album and they all went platinum.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the numbers the death row was used to.
Speaker 1: But we didn't have the overhead that death row was
Speaker 1: used to as well. You didn't have people living in
Speaker 1: in fifty tho dollars a month condo condos on Worlshire.
Speaker 1: You didn't have people riding around the Rose roy Since
Speaker 1: and five sales and and all of that. You cut
Speaker 1: all that out. All of that was cut out. And
Speaker 1: that's why Reggie was the bad guy because Reggie still
Speaker 1: riding around in a six. Everybody know who told Regie
Speaker 1: you got to keep your card up. I would have
Speaker 1: my own ship. I ain't never had nothing under death row.
Speaker 1: Everything was under Reggie right or or red. Ship that
Speaker 1: other people were in was in Reggie Wright's name. The
Speaker 1: building that was eventually in Reggie Wright's name personally, not
Speaker 1: as a business or entity. And so did you put
Speaker 1: that billboard on the top of the building home? I
Speaker 1: did all that Welcome Home with a big cutout of
Speaker 1: that was from the prison pitcher until that was a
Speaker 1: prison pitcher. That was a prison pitcher. I used to
Speaker 1: drive by that car. You know, he had no idea
Speaker 1: about that. That was just me. We had the billboard
Speaker 1: at the time and clear channel wasn't paying. They end
Speaker 1: up sing I asking and got a five judgment against that.
Speaker 1: You have to do it through them exactly, you just
Speaker 1: put it up yourself. The lease was up, and I
Speaker 1: was trying to negotiate the price with him. And during
Speaker 1: the time of the negotiating the price with him, which
Speaker 1: I eventually I'll started getting ten thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: That's what was able to I was able to live
Speaker 1: off from the time home I left the row and
Speaker 1: tell about two thousand and six. And the last part
Speaker 1: of the question is who else ran the label other
Speaker 1: than you? Well, well, SI was smart and that's the
Speaker 1: good thing. Well, people always say Reggie was still bullshit
Speaker 1: because what happened. I was able to generate checks, but
Speaker 1: the checks were done by ignatures. Are a stamp. His
Speaker 1: daddy was able to find text personally his father with
Speaker 1: his personal signature, which end up playing out because um,
Speaker 1: because the mama was seeing everything and the family was
Speaker 1: you know, he got tired of everybody knowing his business
Speaker 1: and so um that eventually played out. But uh, michele uh.
Speaker 1: She had a rubber stamp and she would stamp it,
Speaker 1: and another female had another stamp and she would stamp
Speaker 1: something to check. So those are the two people that
Speaker 1: he the females that he had trusted that I would
Speaker 1: go to to get check signed, so they couldn't have
Speaker 1: anything generated. I was don't to have anything generated, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't have nothing signed that would get cashed by
Speaker 1: the bank because I would have to go to them.
Speaker 1: So Dads was never a CEO. Come on, now, that's
Speaker 1: a Druggie. I think I've read somewhere. I think he
Speaker 1: said that I had him in charge of the music,
Speaker 1: the production, and you know, as far as into the studio,
Speaker 1: and he was a good producer. He was a hell
Speaker 1: of a producer. Is he still? Do you think he
Speaker 1: still got it in two thousand nineteen producing music? Um?
Speaker 1: When has he done? I'm not sure? I'm just it
Speaker 1: seems like even my point is, what John, what have
Speaker 1: they done? Don Harper? Was this tyrone? What have they done?
Speaker 1: Who's out there making his now other than dre still today?
Speaker 1: J don't even do it. He does it for fun,
Speaker 1: play or whatever. But who who's doing it? Who's doing it? Hey, James,
Speaker 1: do you think Reggie did a good job when he
Speaker 1: took over? I know he wasn't around so much. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was hearing things. Man, don't get me
Speaker 1: like I was mad at Reggie. My goddamn every time
Speaker 1: my assie, which shot that I need to check he
Speaker 1: I don't know where he yet. Well he talked about
Speaker 1: once he got out, when he came out, I was
Speaker 1: still the person you got to get to get the show. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're talking about that, yeah, yeah. And then I
Speaker 1: think that billboard you guys had it called the Row.
Speaker 1: It wasn't death Row anymore. Yeah, that's we changed. That's
Speaker 1: when the Death Row. That's why Murder Ink changed their
Speaker 1: name to the Ink. People were trying to get away
Speaker 1: from that. I actually talked to no one, no legal reasons.
Speaker 1: I talked to you into that because man, we had
Speaker 1: a case with the Broomfields from from sixties where they
Speaker 1: were the ones that bore corrupt over to the label
Speaker 1: when he was young, and when we signed corrupt um,
Speaker 1: the jury came back with a judgment against us for
Speaker 1: over eight or two million dollars and said, you know,
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to make his own to start something else,
Speaker 1: but we want to put this company out of business
Speaker 1: because we don't like that name death Row. That's what
Speaker 1: people saying. We don't like the name death Row, and
Speaker 1: so we want to try to put him out of
Speaker 1: the business. When he come home, get out of jail.
Speaker 1: He's smart enough he can go and create something, to
Speaker 1: start something else new, And so even the judge was like,
Speaker 1: wait man, you know, and she dropped it down to
Speaker 1: like two or three million dollars. And then that's when
Speaker 1: we had to go and work out a deal with
Speaker 1: the Broomfields and eventually ain't down somebody to make that
Speaker 1: case go away. So if the case went away, why
Speaker 1: did you change your name then? Because we don't want
Speaker 1: another incident like that that happened where where, you know,
Speaker 1: we just felt that climate was like deaf murder. We're
Speaker 1: talking now two thousand one, ninety two thousand and I
Speaker 1: think we were people were we were really dying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people were just nicer. It was just they didn't ship.
Speaker 1: You know, we came out with the terrorist thread laws
Speaker 1: and all of that. The things that you used to
Speaker 1: can get away within the nineties you couldn't get away
Speaker 1: with anymore. It was different times. And it's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I kind of changed my platform from
Speaker 1: street GANGSVAT. I just wanted to sanitize the name a
Speaker 1: little bit, bring more people on and not get that negative.
Speaker 1: You know. Look when people ask me, what's your channel,
Speaker 1: call street Gangs? Yeah, you know, so now street TV.
Speaker 1: But let's wrap it up here. I want to thank
Speaker 1: everyone well before we close it off, I want to
Speaker 1: throw off that we got some some guests coming up
Speaker 1: that we need to people to send some some questions
Speaker 1: over to UM in the next couple of weeks. Chico Brown,
Speaker 1: Chico Brown and maybe and then Glad the following week.
Speaker 1: But Chico Brown is a guy most people y'all won't know,
Speaker 1: like who's Chico Brown. But he was one of Freeway Ricks,
Speaker 1: the right hand guy. But now he's trying to do
Speaker 1: positive things in the city of Compton. He has um
Speaker 1: some type of gang um uh, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what to call him. But the people that goes
Speaker 1: around help and trying to clean up the city. And yeah,
Speaker 1: in the city of Compton. He's also like the right
Speaker 1: hand of the lasign to the mayor of Compton, Asia Brown,
Speaker 1: beautiful Asia Brown, and so I think here another dually,
Speaker 1: he has a brother in law. Most people don't know
Speaker 1: that he his brother is married to Asia Brown. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's his brother in law, her brother in
Speaker 1: law and so anyway, so we're gonna have him come
Speaker 1: on and talk about some things going on in the city,
Speaker 1: deal Compton and you know, his thing with Freeway, Rick
Speaker 1: and and whatever. The topic of the weekends. So please
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