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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Regie Jr.

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Speaker 1: And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness

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Speaker 1: on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and um,

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Speaker 1: they believe this might be in retaliation to our testimony.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. My name

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Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso from Street Gangs dot Com. I also

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Speaker 1: got a very popular platform called street TV where interview

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Speaker 1: current previous former gang members. And I'm here with Reggie

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Speaker 1: Right and James McDonald and this is episode number twelve.

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Speaker 1: that we will cover on the next episode. So real

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Speaker 1: quick before we get into the main topic of our episode,

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Speaker 1: a little fact checking from last week. We talked about

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Speaker 1: bartender O. G. Parrou. His full name is Lyle Joseph Thomas,

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Speaker 1: born in February and was killed December four, James. And

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Speaker 1: this is kind of like right around the time you

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Speaker 1: started hitting the streets, right although although you, um, he

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Speaker 1: had already passed. I mean his name was ringing bells

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Speaker 1: and bells like like it was the thing to do.

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Speaker 1: He was, he was right there with China Dog. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of those guys. Then we were

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Speaker 1: younger hearing about um, you know, out there doing anything

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Speaker 1: hanging and you know, at the park and yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty much. And I'm sure you heard about bartender Reggie.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we heard a bartender growing up. You know.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I walked the streets Circumfltence as well

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Speaker 1: in that area and he was a street legend growing up. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to acknowledge him present his full name. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He paid the ultimate price. And you know, I always

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Speaker 1: like to remember all our rest in pieces, uh, regardless

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Speaker 1: of their life choices that they made in the past.

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace to Mr Thomas. Lyle Joseph Thomas. Since

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Speaker 1: you shouting now people that are rest in peace? What's

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Speaker 1: the early county sheriff deputy name that uh that died

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Speaker 1: this week? The Latino guy? His name is good question,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll tell you his name in the

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Speaker 1: second because I'll just read an article. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: had posted about it, but I posted about it when

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Speaker 1: he was just shocked. I didn't even know when he died.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, you know when I heard he was

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Speaker 1: walking out here, were walking in the bathroom last week

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Speaker 1: tell us his name. I don't know, No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about Regis. Is his

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Speaker 1: What are those two officers name? Let's shout them out.

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Speaker 1: Those are your colleagues, former colleagues. Yes, all right? In

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Speaker 1: another second fact check you brought up last week, Reggie,

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Speaker 1: that one of those governors commuted a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: the state of Illinois, he commuted a hundred sixties hundred

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Speaker 1: sixty seven people. Yeah, they're still in prison, but they're

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Speaker 1: that's God saying that's what he will do. But it

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Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, you have some people that deserve

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Speaker 1: they're human beings, killed two human beings. Well, and I

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Speaker 1: when you say that, man, you've got so many cops

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Speaker 1: and this is a different story. You got so many

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Speaker 1: same way he killed me, I and say I felt threatened.

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Speaker 1: That's why I shot this officer. I can't say that.

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Speaker 1: It don't work for me, but it works for them.

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Speaker 1: Some states have automatic death penalty if you kill a cop,

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Speaker 1: Well they should if you're convicted. Why why should cops

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Speaker 1: be given Why should a defendant be given a more

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Speaker 1: severe punishment for killing the cops. It's called a deterrent.

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Speaker 1: It deters people from from killing. But I think you

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Speaker 1: Some some cases were not like that. Um, some cases,

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Speaker 1: And then and then in the same joke, and they

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Speaker 1: deterrence theory, Texas should have the least amount of murders

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Speaker 1: I believe we have a big case going on right now,

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Speaker 1: You know, we sit in the pen aitention and we

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Speaker 1: It's with the white people. The white people. You got

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Speaker 1: some honest motherfucker's out there that that actually help you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I know it's an old movie,

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Speaker 1: Put them all in that prison, gim general prop and

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Speaker 1: already like that, So now y'all ye for uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: He was raping the home. But then the flip side.

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Speaker 1: Today Cash will come home and still act like their gamesters.

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Speaker 1: Smiley was doing he was. It was a big write

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Speaker 1: up about it, opening eighty seven and he was. The

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Speaker 1: nigga wasn't there. He just making up ship. He didn't

429
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: heard street legend ship. But if y'all read the rest report,

430
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: go to the next report. Yes, since here that witness

431
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: one stated that both suspects had arrived at the location

432
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: with a record producer, which is Damon for an appointment

433
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: he had with Sugar Knight. Yeah that's me. Now, that's

434
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: that's the rest report, And somehow Big Cast has inserted

435
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: himself into this. That's the whole point of all of us. Okay,

436
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: I got a question, why would do come and try

437
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: to have you and Sugar arrested if she wasn't there?

438
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: Why would he implicate Sugar and this ship? Well, ship,

439
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: ship was probably there. How ship goddamn y'all, some incriminating

440
00:24:48,480 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: motherfucker's were trying to do. I mean, okay, all right,

441
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Chilled was on parole two months out,

442
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: So people say, well, Reggy, why would you put him

443
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: in jail? You well, number one, that was my job.

444
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: But number two, shild was two months out, but gain

445
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: nothing happened to shoot. Now after this ship, this ship,

446
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: I don't worried about me. I don't got sued. I

447
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: don't want the court and testified any Yeah, they sued

448
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: me for that. That boy half his body's claiming his

449
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: paralyzed so he get paid which guy which didn't get paid,

450
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: but he got a judgment for a hundred sixty which

451
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: is which is the guy that's claiming he got it

452
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: severely injured body body? Okay, Well this incident was November six,

453
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: two thousand one. For all of those who want to

454
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: know what big Cats is talking about. But apparently Big

455
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: Cats wasn't there at at least according to this police

456
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: report exactly. Um, this has nothing to do with Big Cats.

457
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: Was there any discussion that this day about masters and

458
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: we want music? Were they trying to bully themselves into

459
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: the to the they were? They were trying to do

460
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: their job be with there there they were trying to

461
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: show their boy Damon Towns that they bought about it.

462
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: We're big, big bad security guards were going with you. Damon,

463
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: you ain't going back there by yourself. Damon, they get

464
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: they get bullied on by them. We were you. We

465
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: getting paid to protect you. And you know that was

466
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: one of the coldest things when I heard it. Death

467
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Row wasn't regular people working there. That's what I try

468
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: to tell people what I'm saying, And I'm trying to

469
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: explain that you you ain't going up against fifteen cats.

470
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: When I heard it, I was like, hell, no, all

471
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: of these guys I know personally, So you ain't went

472
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: up against no fifth team motherfucker's to beat them and

473
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: and then came back and then basket. But now that

474
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: we got a date James November six two one where

475
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: you were around at that time of the six his

476
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: brother was there though. Yeah, so by that, by by

477
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: November two thousand one, you wasn't messing. I was still

478
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: working with him, But wouldn't working with him like that?

479
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: I was, I was around, But I know for a

480
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: fact you ain't walking up in there and beat up

481
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: the whole goddamn studio and then woke up. Wouldn't just

482
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: take some masters, that is impossible, But not carding a

483
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: big can well, well, anybody that's in the studio, damn

484
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: well that ain't that ain'tven just happened. And that's the

485
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: only reason for exposing this guy. Come on, yeah, that's

486
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the only reason this because this brother kept talk He's

487
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: been talking about it for a year. I've been ignoring it,

488
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: and he talked about it this one too any time

489
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: for not a I said that wasn't true? Is him

490
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: knocking out Reggie? And should I know? Reggie got his

491
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: weapon on him, So you ain't been hit me and

492
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't shoot you. Well, according to this police report,

493
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: the guys that Damon Thomas brought up there end up

494
00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: getting beat up. They became vic report, they became victims.

495
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: And for anyone that's interested in this report, they can

496
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: go to bomb first and you can get a direct

497
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: download to it. Can't do it from your phone, but

498
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: you can do it from your computer. Yeah, you're gonna

499
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: have to do it from a laptop or a desktop

500
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: for all you ancient folks out there. And you can

501
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: also get a copy of his bank rust support, which

502
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that's not a big thing. The only reason the bank

503
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: rust support is is an issue because I know people

504
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: got loopholes and reasons for filing bankruptcy and so I'm

505
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: not trying to shoot on nobody finances is because he

506
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: always claiming that he owns all the different people masters,

507
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: and and we know if you own all these people masters,

508
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: you have to declare either the income from the masters

509
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: are declared the asset of something that you supposedly all

510
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: some just exposing the brother as they lie. Let me

511
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: just read this last part. It says here witness one

512
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: retired Compton p D stated that he had used force

513
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: um two suspects trying to force their way inside towards

514
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: the rear of the business. About about it, hunt, Reggie,

515
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: you put it out there, that's verybody to check out.

516
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: To look at fat fifty three year old Reggie not

517
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: slee year old and on a previous episode, apparently you

518
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: told the story of holding your own with neckbone, which

519
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: ain't no joke, right. I mean, I'm not trying to

520
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: brag on that. But you had a partner though, and

521
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to fight Reggie. He's trying to get away.

522
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: It's a big difference from a brother that's fighting you,

523
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: squaring up against you, versus just trying to get away.

524
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: That's a big difference. That's all. That's all neck Bone

525
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: was doing. I was just trying to tell you how

526
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: strong the brother was and how very you your stories

527
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: about how hardy swings, Yeah, when he fight, how hard

528
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: he swings. Neckbro was could have been all pro and football, Yeah, athlete.

529
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at this body. You can

530
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: tell the way you shape that. If you go go

531
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: through his ship and look at him, a lot of

532
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: people would would say, I'm not finished with him. Fight.

533
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: But you've got a lot of guys out there and

534
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: it's like that, you know, a million of Yeah, you

535
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, I mean, just don't every

536
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: hood got a Mike Tyson, every hood got a debo.

537
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's go, um, We're done with the bad

538
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: big cast situation. I don't know if we're gonna ever

539
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: revisit that, but I think we're much done on it.

540
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: I think we need I'm sure he's going to eventually

541
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: surface his head up and I want to talk. But

542
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: when he does, we'll deal with it then. So I'm

543
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: not gonna never say never. Yeah, unless he said something

544
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: and we knew about it. But for everyone who wants to,

545
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: I have no disrespect. I have none but respect for

546
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: the sixty cripts, whover crypts, anybody crypts. I don't disrespect anybody.

547
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Understand this at six It was just something that some

548
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: people will take it that one ain't got nothing to

549
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: do with gangs, crip, blood piru. It was just he

550
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: came up there, or he claimed he came up there,

551
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and it turned out these other two dudes were involved

552
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: in it. But sure it wasn't him exactly. Is this

553
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: show that he's a liar and if he want to

554
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: be one of them? Okay, maybe you know it was

555
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: lying to us, but that person was six ninety pounds

556
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think casts a six one. Yeah, well,

557
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: according to his police report, you do not want to

558
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: be one of these two guys, because you got pistol

559
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: with you might have lost some tea. Alright. The next

560
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: topic I want to talk about is my main man,

561
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: O J. Simpsons, fellow trojan. He went to usc UM,

562
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: but he's on social media now and he's doing not

563
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: just like posts, he's doing videos. What is this purpose? Well,

564
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: he did say he had some get back to do.

565
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I gotta get back at some people, very vague and

566
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: and and on one of them. Ron Goldman has been

567
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: taking shots at him though it don't matter. And if

568
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: and if he's innocent, If he's innocent as he portrayed,

569
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: you get tired of getting shots taken at you. Absolutely

570
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: he's in this and he got found not guilty on that,

571
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: then he got the right to respond. Then if you

572
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: believe that responding, you haven't been through too much. You

573
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: didn't just got out of jail in Las Vegas, which

574
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: they only liked your ass up because you be Yeah

575
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: they job. Yeah, he went to jailing Nevada for killing

576
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Nicole And yeah, that's what that was about. All that

577
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: was so you get out of jail after nine? Are

578
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: you doing nine? Nine? Yeah? When he was saying to

579
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: nine he did, he just sencety but but they what

580
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: you called him was different than are a little different.

581
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: So you get out of jail, O j after you

582
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: just did this time, don't you? Don't you think these

583
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: white people had enough of you. You should be tired,

584
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: you should be somewhere sick. They're gonna put a case

585
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: on him, on this guy black man, and relax made

586
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: it out of there live. I understand, because i'd have

587
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: been falsely a killed in his seventies. Though, sit down,

588
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: your fight is over. You just gave him motherfucker's seven years. Well,

589
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: technically his fights never over because he's still he lost

590
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a civil suit for thirty million dollars thirty three million dollars,

591
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: so he's got to keep on navigating his finances in

592
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: a way. He can't live a month and all you

593
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: want to do is play golf, then something's wrong. But

594
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: even other things. I'm sure he's used to a certain lifestyle.

595
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Well he shouldn't be. He just got a prison for yeah, yeah,

596
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: you got yeahn get your new news like you've been doing,

597
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: programmed like you've been programming and and and just disappeared

598
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: from these people. I wouldn't even have a phone. I

599
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't even sit here no, you can't have a picture.

600
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: This is how, this is how. I just want to

601
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: be left alone. I want to spend the rest of

602
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: my days with my han me, my kids, my grandkids,

603
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: and just relax. O. J. Simpson, get you a goddamn

604
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: rocking chair and stop. These white people ain't playing with

605
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: you and you know it, so stop doing all this

606
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: over funny as ship. You're too old to be on

607
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: my Twitter or tweeting and doing whatever. Ship, Yeah, stop

608
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: whatever that. And then he just and he having a

609
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: ball with it. Man, ship back. Don't nobody owe you ship,

610
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: like you said a long time ago, and you don't

611
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: know nobody else. Ship. You too old for this ship.

612
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna next name. You know you're gonna be sitting

613
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: over there with Bill Cosby talking about why stop this ship?

614
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: You see, they have to get you. This ship ain't

615
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: never dirty and Nevada because all it was he was

616
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: trying to retreat stuff. But he took a gun or

617
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: when his dudes had a gun and he took the

618
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: wrong motherfucker's that put him in Friston. Yeah, they all

619
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: told on him. And then Nevada has a weird way

620
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: of defining kidnapping. If I don't let you go off

621
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: that Door's California too, I'm kidnapping. You have to move

622
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: the person from room to room. But in Nevada, you

623
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: got to prevent something from moving. Now we just got

624
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: to moving in California, got a movie. In Nevada, I

625
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: gotta prevent you from moving, and that's kidnapping. So that's

626
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: why he got stretched out in Nevada, where they had

627
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: to give him something they would. I think that Jazz

628
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: finally said on TMZ that's why she got hire. I

629
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: think she retired. And I think because you just got

630
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: away with two murders. He just beat two murders. He's

631
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: to luck at his black man on the planet. Yeah,

632
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: now if he if he did it, if you didn't

633
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: even beating the case, beat a people. But when you

634
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: leave that food close call, that's the rest of your

635
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: life in the penitentiary. You just didged a hell of

636
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: a bullet. Now, as a black man, go shit down somewhere,

637
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: find a resort, go chill. No, he's springing up in

638
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Vegas and he walking the holes like he gangster. Now

639
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay your ass, They're gonna check you now,

640
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: So I whldn't have walking out of that. Well, the

641
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: one good thing from Twitter come out there. I think

642
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: he's finally said cold, he's not his daughter and he

643
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: never had sex with with Chris Jenner. Oh yeah, I

644
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: guess so when I mentioned last time when we had

645
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Spider Locus, to guess that there were three people in

646
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: that courtroom that o J had sexual relations with. But

647
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: he's saying he never mess that's what he said. But

648
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: then I heard the time when he said they did

649
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: it in uh in asana and when um Jacuzzi when

650
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: they got a little drunk. So you know who's really

651
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: mad at o J for being on social media? I

652
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: heard this person speak out a couple of days ago, specifically, Yeah,

653
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: she's like anything what she said because that's what she believed.

654
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: But look, she just started a new podcast. She's in

655
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: the same category as us, and her podcast shot all

656
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: the way up to number two and she only did

657
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: three episodes because the name of it is confronting o J.

658
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Simpson and everybody. That's the subject everybody want to hear. Yeah,

659
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: so I'm quite sure what after that though, when you

660
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: try to talking about o J, she can be crying

661
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: about her brother. Well, I mean, he put her ship.

662
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: She was asked, and she was asked the other day,

663
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: would you have o J on your podcast? You know what?

664
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: The answer was, yes, Yeah, she said she wants to

665
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: ask him a bunch of questions because she's about she's

666
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: about money, she's about some other ship. She I mean,

667
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't do that as he just the agitator,

668
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: Oh Jay trying to fuck her like come here, girl,

669
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you do kind of flipper. It's real serious to me

670
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: because we lose every day. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

671
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: We lose every day out here, and for for o

672
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: J to win, it makes everybody look bad that that

673
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: that was cheering for him and was happy that he

674
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: beat this case, for him to get out there, and

675
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: constantly I wonder if we would support him like we

676
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: did then, because you know, you gotta remember why we

677
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: supported him so tough, because o J always considered himself

678
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: like tiger. Yeah. And so the reason we supported him though,

679
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: because it just happened after one the riots, and and yeah,

680
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: was the perfect time. The climate of Los Angeles was

681
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: perfect trial. But I'm looking at you know a lot

682
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: of people will be offended that we're over here laughing,

683
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, because two people were murdered. But like you said,

684
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: we lose people all the time, you know, we we

685
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: we're laughing at the situation. We're laughing at O J.

686
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: N and want to make a light up And thought,

687
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: my interviewer, I really think it is a is A

688
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: is a touching matter and and I mean we can't

689
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: take light of it because of O. J. Simpson. Look

690
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: what he're doing. Come on, man, how many times you

691
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: think you're gonna win? How many times you are you

692
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: winning to lose? Just to fucking play with these people?

693
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: And and and this motherfucker's out there fighting every day

694
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: murder cases, and and and lose this dude one to

695
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: murder cases when he had everybody against him. And then

696
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: you get out here and just run a mark. You

697
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: you you funked up in Vegas. Now you're out of

698
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: here on this on TV. You two motherfucking old making

699
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: a show an example to us. Uh speak on something

700
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: that that happened in there. Let us know some positive ship.

701
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: You ain't giving us that you should not here making

702
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: your ship look stupid. And then the next motherfucker, yeah

703
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: he does look very silly videos, but it's it's some

704
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: hell of entertainment though. I mean, I many subscribers followers.

705
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: That's our problem. We laughing ship that shouldn't be. We

706
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't laugh at because it makes all of us look

707
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: fucked up, every black man and every black motherfucker walking

708
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: out there looking at him, and I think it's funny. No,

709
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: it's not funny. It's sad that this dude is out

710
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: of here like that. We don't win every day like

711
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: heat doing it. We can't. O Man. O J is

712
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: always gonna be news regardless. You know, the Trial of

713
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the Century and he was the center of it. Old news.

714
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Let us stay old news. It's it's kind of difficult

715
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: when you got Kim Goldman that just came out with

716
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: a brand new podcast called Confronting o J in two

717
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Confront you know J. If you don't never

718
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: get o J on their responding and none of this ship.

719
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: What do she have she has? She has a really

720
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: nice title of a podcast. I mean, let's change your

721
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: trust me. They reach out J O J will happen

722
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: crazy as up there now, They're gonna have to pay

723
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: o J to come on there. They probably got to

724
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: pay him like a hundred thousand. Well, let's change your

725
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: name from against chronicles or something. And you think Twitter

726
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: is going to put the blue check next to his

727
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Twitter handle to show that he's the real o J.

728
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: Because his handle is the real o J thirty two

729
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: and he's got seven hundred and fifty thousand followers in

730
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: what a week. He's about to hit a million in

731
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: a few days, and um, yeah, I wonder if Twitter

732
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: is gonna give him the blue the blue mark that

733
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: says this is the real o J page. And he

734
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: also wanted to address that too. He said, Look, there's

735
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fact o J pages on Twitter. That's

736
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: another reason why he said he went on. He's like, look,

737
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: there's people pretending that that they're mad and posting stuff

738
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: out there and that's not me. So that's kind of

739
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: legitimate to say, hey, we'll still you could you could

740
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: make a page and you don't have to do all

741
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: that ship you're doing on that And then have you

742
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: see his picture? This is what we live in. People

743
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: be like, my wife could make me. You're fifty something

744
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: years old, Why are you on YouTube all the time?

745
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? Like this is the age

746
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: week now, so we don't know what what a sixty

747
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: or seventy year old man supposed to be doing that.

748
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: That looks good for his seventies though. Yeah, well j well,

749
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: prison they say, preserve your life. But um uh, you know,

750
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: just like Donald Trump, he's on Twitter. Have we ever

751
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: had a president that tweeked this much? I mean, I'm

752
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: just saying, we don't know. I don't follow him. I

753
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't do that. Dude, you didn't do YouTube?

754
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Tell you year ago? Now you one of the biggest

755
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: niggers on YouTube. Well he's seventy one years old, and

756
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I think he looked all right for seventy one. I mean,

757
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're gon, we're all going age. But I

758
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: just think you need to slow down. And I think

759
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: people that's on his page should should hit him telling

760
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't see this is not you's your biggest or

761
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: best memory of that time when he was on trial?

762
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: Any any stories because this is also the death Row days.

763
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: If it don't fit you much when this trial was

764
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: going on. If it don't fit well, that was which

765
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: his name is, mistake, Um, Christopher Darden. The thing is

766
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: that here's the thing. They say that some of those

767
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: the gloves kind of shrink a little bit. When they've

768
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: been soaking in blood for a while, they don't maintain

769
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: its size. So to have O J try on a

770
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: glove that possibly shrank was a huge mistake. And plus

771
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: I think OJ had to wear a latex glove underneath it,

772
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: so he's got a layer of glove because it's considered evident.

773
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: And heaggerated and he acting. He did a little acting

774
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: in front of the jury, and I think that might

775
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: have turned the trial. Trial was the racist statement that

776
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: people were anti law enforcement, like you said, we just

777
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: had the I as we had just had the Rodney

778
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: King incident, and people just wouldn't We wasn't tolerating um.

779
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: And for those that are too, you don't remember. Mark

780
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Ferman went on the stand. He was asked, have you

781
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: ever used the word nigger in your career? And he

782
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: said never? And then I think eff Lee Bailey was

783
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: was crossing him and he said are you sure have

784
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: you ever said the word nigger in any context? He

785
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: said never, and then boom, they had all these audio

786
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: taping them saying niggatives, niggadid LPD we they you know.

787
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Darrel Gates was Darrell Gates tolerated a lot of things

788
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: from the the white officers back in the day. And

789
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, I heard that Wilsher Division, Wilshr Division is

790
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: one of eight Well back then it was eighteen l

791
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: APD divisions. Now it's twenty one. But they used to

792
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: call Wilsher Division the other cops, the white cops called

793
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: Wilsher Division Nigger Division because when you got out of

794
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the academy as a black cop, you wanted to be

795
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: with other black cops, right, So they would say, Hey,

796
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: assignment to Wilsher because I know some black cops there

797
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: that I could go too. So eventually every black cop

798
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: out of the academy wanted to get assigned to Wilshire Division.

799
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: So all the white cops started calling Wilshire Division Nigga Division. Well,

800
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: they must have a black captain or something over that. Yeah,

801
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just where because I thought they would

802
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: have went southeast seventies seven. And it also comes from

803
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: um from the dude, frank Liga. Frank was one of

804
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: those guys that was calling. From what I understand from

805
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: some of my retired contacts, this is coming from retired

806
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: black l APD officers that I personally know that frank

807
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Liga was one of those that, Yeah, that's nigga division.

808
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I mean when you have a ten

809
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve thousand law enforcement officers and majority of

810
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: them are are white, Um, you're gonna have that type

811
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: of thinking, aspecially when they were up and manage. You

812
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that type of anything, but you have it

813
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: right here at this radio station that we're sitting there

814
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: now when you have a you know what, a majority

815
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: of white people, and it showed you what what this?

816
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: What this the polling and stuff with Donald Trump? When

817
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: when when when people were older acts you're gonna vote

818
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump? They said no, no, no, But once

819
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: they got in no boots, Polly both officer that you know,

820
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: that's a good officer that he was job good. Yeah,

821
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: just one officer that was good at his job, Mark

822
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: Mark Anderson. Um, just Bobby Now if he was a

823
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: KKK and you knew he was a classman, but you

824
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: know he just worked as good with your him as

825
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: a police officer. If I know that he was fair

826
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: and then beat over with people and with a hiring

827
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: knowing he was a KKK. Remember, you gotta hesitate on

828
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: that one. I mean because we said two things. He

829
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: said that he's doing his job and he's fair doing

830
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: his job. He's a good work acting, but you know

831
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: he's a KATEKK. Would you hire him? But he has

832
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: a good work and he was fair, just because you

833
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: don't know what I believe, what I feel like, I don't,

834
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying about doing your job. If you

835
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: said just saying a person do their job, they fair,

836
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: that's a big, big statement that you're saying that he's

837
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: fair that I worked with and he was and he

838
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: does his job, and but when he goes home he's

839
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: this way. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

840
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: That's just like saying, would you this this guy is good,

841
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: but when he goes home he sleeping with man. I

842
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what he does when he go home.

843
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: You have a sexual preference. Is way different from being

844
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: a part of the clue, klux, Klan or religious. I

845
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: mean some people will say that's their realist. I don't know.

846
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: He said the word fair, and that's what kind of

847
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: through the word because you have to think in your

848
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: subconscious Okay, I know he's a good man, but goddamn,

849
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: he's a KKK that goes against everything. A police officer

850
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: should be he should not have this type of mentality.

851
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: What's can you be fair? And b k K came no, no,

852
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: but treat questions. Okay, alright, no you can't. I don't know.

853
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: You got white things. A lot of closet race, racism,

854
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: racist people that we deal with daily, and the police

855
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: department as well. I think everywhere, I think everywhere, I

856
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: think in life, and lap D has a long lineage

857
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: of hiring Southern white racist cops. Well, now they're doing

858
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: their worse. Guess what they hearing? That's racist? The biggest

859
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: ain't more racist. I fear no Mexicans more than white folks.

860
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: That's actually deep. Well, I think the way I think

861
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: the concept, it's because you're in more you're in contact

862
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: with Mexicans. Maybe that's why. But I fear white institutional

863
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: racism more than Mexican racism more than I fear white

864
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: Mexican That's crazy, because they were Uncle Tom will hurt

865
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: you quicker than than anybody. That's true. Yeah, absolutely, look

866
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: at Clarence Thomas. He is dangerous. But um, what are

867
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: some memories from from that that period of the O. J.

868
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Simpson trial that stand out? Because y'all was making hit

869
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: records while O J was fighting for his life. That

870
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: was right before pop came because I think the trial

871
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: he was acquitted in October. Yeah, so he sat and

872
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: he sat in high power for one year from ninety

873
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: four to ninety five, was going through uh snoop, I

874
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: think his case was over. No, No, his case went

875
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: over until six sometime in ninety Okay, sometime in ninety

876
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: six is when you got to quit it. And do

877
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: you remember he was being prosecuted by Bobby Grace, a

878
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: black prosecutor. Yeah, I didn't remember. He's a he's a

879
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: good guy. Bobby Grace is interesting prosecutor. He actually told

880
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: me he is he is against the death penalty as

881
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: a person, but if his boss is tell him you

882
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: got to prosecute it, he's gonna do it. Yeah, it

883
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: is because I kind of thought that you wouldn't want

884
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: to be a prosecutor. I wouldn't if I'm against that,

885
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: Why would I do it? Just because? And he's been

886
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: public about that. He would publicly say I'm against the

887
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: death penalty, but if i'm I'm gonna do it, which

888
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: is you know, but he's he's actually one of my

889
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: favorite prosecutors. Bobby Grace, he prosecuted because what's the word.

890
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: He's fair. He's very fair, and that's what's that's what

891
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: he don't come in there with all the theatrics. He doesn't,

892
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, give you a lot of over the top.

893
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: So I've done a lot of trial watching. I've seen

894
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: him do his job, and I think he's a fair prosecutor.

895
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Although I did think the case against Snoop was a

896
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: little over the top. I kind of knew that was

897
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna go because the dude, I knew that they were

898
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: going to argue that there was a self defense. You know.

899
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: In fact, Bobby Grace ten years later prosecuted another He

900
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: messed a big time on the trial, Bobby Gray. He

901
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: baked his whole thing into the rebuttal. And what David

902
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: Kinner and then did was they didn't put on any defense.

903
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: They rest the case, no witnesses anything, right right after

904
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: they let the prosecute put on the case and he

905
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: was gonna put most of himself in the rebuttal and

906
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: they rest. So all he did was just cross examined,

907
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: and that was the case. What was interesting, Bobby Grace

908
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: actually prosecuted another case that I watched it was a

909
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: guy that got shot at the Beverly Center and it

910
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: was almost identical to the Snoop Dog case. And I

911
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: was sitting there watching this and I'm like, they're gonna

912
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: come back not guilty. And they came back not guilty

913
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: like that case. Even though it's not his high profile,

914
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: it was a mirror. It was very similar to Snoop DOGG.

915
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Same prosecutors, same defense. Uh, this guy got shot in

916
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: the Beverley Center and he got shot in the back

917
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: as as the victim and snoopcase was shot in the back.

918
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: This guy was shot in and uh, Philip Walder mar

919
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: and this guy was shot in the back. The guy

920
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about as a rapper named Dollar, Roderick Burton.

921
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: He was an up and coming from Atta, and they

922
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: charged they followed him from Atlanta. That was all. They charged.

923
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: A guy named Aubrey Berry who was also from Atlanta.

924
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: They put it like the followed There were so many

925
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: rumors out there, but in the trial they showed that

926
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: actually Aubrey Berry came out here for a meeting because

927
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: he was a club promoter, and Roderick Burton Dollar came

928
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: out here to work on his music and he came

929
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: out here for a birthday just by coincidence. They both

930
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: flew to Los Angeles from from Georgia, and they both

931
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: crossed paths at the same rest of run at the

932
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: same time. It was a bizarre case, but it reminds

933
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Snoop Doggs case. But he

934
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: was found not guilty. But yeah, what about the whole O. J.

935
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: Simpson trial. What do you guys remember from that? From

936
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: that time? I really I'm not guilty. For me, I'm

937
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: not guilty. Man. It was a good thing too, because

938
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I just knew they was filmed. Man, he just killed

939
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: what two white people? They're not gonna let him off

940
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: this so allegedly, and uh, look how he looked at me,

941
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: So I figured he don't. But when he came back

942
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: not guilty, Johnny Cochrane was my hero. This is one

943
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: cold mom right here. But then, uh, if it don't

944
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: fit you much, to quit was my second Other than that,

945
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, he got lucky. We won't hear from

946
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: him no more. And the slow speed uh chase, That's

947
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: what I remember, the chase and the silicide letter. Also,

948
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: they had a fair judge. Judge lance Itto is considered

949
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: one of the most fair judges in that courthouse. And

950
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: you know he did. But he did his job. When

951
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: the cameras in, you you'd be a little fair too, Yeah,

952
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean you have to be. Yeah, And like they

953
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: wanted to let in he had another high profile. He

954
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: kept some of those tapes out that Mark Ferman was

955
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: saying all these things, but he said, I gotta let

956
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: some in. You know, we'll we'll exclude something, but I'll

957
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: let a couple in. But yeah, Lance, Lance Itto is

958
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: a very fair judge and I think that also worked

959
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: to O. J. Simpsons advantage. What stood out to me

960
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: in that trial, you know the supervisor on that uh,

961
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: on the d A that was like Marcia Clark and

962
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: then boss you gotta had the heart attack? Uh what's

963
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: his name? Just he's the one the prosecutor ship after

964
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: that case. Okay, So I just recovered and came back.

965
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: He prosecuted him on the paroviolation. Okay. Yeah, In fact,

966
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I do remember seeing him in that footage. Yeah. What

967
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is what stood out to me.

968
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: I remember Efflee Bailey was cross examining someone on the

969
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: stand and he showed that there were two sets of

970
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: footprints in the blood there, and I always found that

971
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: interesting because there's not a lot of talk about it.

972
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: They've all admitted or confirmed that, Yeah, there are two

973
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: sets of footprints. One set is the Brunomalley shoes that

974
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: apparently o J owned, but another set of footprints was

975
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: in there. And Effley barely kept on saying, explained to

976
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: me how these footprints are in there, and they couldn't

977
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: explain it to him. So that just means two people

978
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: were there, you know. And and it doesn't mean o

979
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: J was there, and most people don't know that. It

980
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: was the rumor and is that she owed it some drugs,

981
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: some drug dealers, some money and that's why they did

982
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: their hit on her. Yeah, I mean that was the it.

983
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean he was mad because you know the way

984
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: she dissed him at the at the at the the

985
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: recital and with the family. Okay, so I am taking

986
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: care of his white taking up for this white woman.

987
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: God never, you can't keep beating my ass and I

988
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: was supposed to accept that ship. You're doing me bad

989
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: when my people were asking questions and you constantly hurt

990
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: me in front of my kids. At some point, fuck

991
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: you would woo let me ask you this. It was

992
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: a man his age. I think he was in his

993
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: mid to late forties with lower back problems, capable of

994
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: that type of the next day golf is different from

995
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm about to stab two people to death and one

996
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: might be fighting for his life. Right she was, She's

997
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: probably not an issue. But ron Goldman was a young, fresh,

998
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: strong dude. They said he had a lot of um

999
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: damage to his like, he had defense moves, He had

1000
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of defense wounds. So what I mean he

1001
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: was fighting for his life. But if he had that

1002
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: much defense wounds, wouldn't that some hope scratch has been

1003
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: on o J. A lot of scratches should have been

1004
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: on o J. And o j's DNA should have been

1005
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: under his finger. Now they have a couple of drops

1006
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: of blood well in the sink. Yeah, well I'll be

1007
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: I'll be shaving myself all the time and be saying blood.

1008
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, man, I hope that now the ship.

1009
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Do you agree that there should be o J's DNA

1010
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: on Ronald Goldman's body somewhere but that was never found. Yeah,

1011
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we we we recast. I don't

1012
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: want to convicted old J. I said, I didn't convict

1013
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: him at all. What you're doing and ship your old

1014
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: last down. I'll tell you another interesting thing about the trial.

1015
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: It was it was aired on Channel five kt L

1016
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: A Marta Waller, a b C s even you know.

1017
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: But they were doing it live every day every day.

1018
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: That's when that Channel five had it from Gavel to

1019
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: Gavel yea like no other channels. But they had to

1020
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: take commercial break. And I was reading this in a

1021
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: book called O. J. Simpsons Sat on Facts and Fictions

1022
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: by Darnell Hunt. He examined the trial and how it

1023
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: was aired. They would often take their commercial breaks when

1024
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the defense was presenting their case. So if you watch

1025
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: this trial on TV, you got a biased look at

1026
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: the trial. Even though you think you saw everything in

1027
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: the trial, those commercial breaks were when Johnny or fth

1028
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: Lee Bailey or the DNA guy Barry Scheck was doing

1029
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: their thing. So even if you claim you watched it,

1030
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: you didn't really see everything because of the commercial fine

1031
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: tic that was sitting behind Johnny all the time, Sean

1032
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: what was her name, she's a big time attorney. Now

1033
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: it's a little cute thing. Yeah, remember his like little

1034
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: assistant junior trial. But she's big now. She she got

1035
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: her name was Sean something. I don't I don't remember anyone.

1036
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: Her and Carl Carl, Carl Douglas were the little youngster. Douglas,

1037
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: that's my main man right there. He's powerful now. He

1038
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: took a case. He took a case of a big yo.

1039
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 1: I captured the l A p D shooting and killing

1040
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: a guy on Crenshaw and Slosson back in two thousand

1041
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: and eight. I captured the whole thing on video. He

1042
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: took that case for the family of the victim um

1043
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: and it was a huge civil case, fifteen million dollar case,

1044
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: and it's one of the few cases that Carl Douglas

1045
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: has lost and lost it. It was an amazing kid.

1046
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: That actually brought me into the the trial because because

1047
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: that's the auten to kick the video and it was

1048
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: really crazy. I came in to testify. They had been

1049
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: this case has been going through the system for over

1050
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: a year, maybe two years, and Carl Douglas got me

1051
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: up there, understand, to explain what happened. He's asked me first,

1052
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: he's asking my credentials. He actually told me, you're the

1053
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: best eyewitness I've ever had. Because I went to school,

1054
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: and I got these degrees and I'm working on this

1055
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: and I'm doing that. He said, you're the perfect eye

1056
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: witness that you wanted for a civil case. I get

1057
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: up there and I'm testifying, and he's asking me about

1058
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: what did I see? And I said, I saw the

1059
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: cops shoot how many times? Like over times? Anti police

1060
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: came through to the jury. They I didn't even I

1061
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: was only did authenticate the video. But as um as

1062
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: he's asking me about what I saw and how many

1063
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: bullets were shot and what I know, how I saw

1064
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: him on the ground, actually got emotional, understand, completely unexpected.

1065
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: I was like, give me a minute, man, because I

1066
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: actually witnesses do die. I videotaped his last breath and

1067
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: he asked me to relive this. Never got emotional about

1068
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: it at all until he's asking me these questions on

1069
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: the stand. And I'm going back thinking, does kral Douglas

1070
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: know the trigger questions? Because I think he wanted me

1071
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: to do that. I think I think he pulled that

1072
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: out of me in some kind of clever way that attorneys,

1073
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, dig deep into the bag. And the way

1074
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: he lost the cases in civil court. You don't need

1075
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: unanimous you don't need all twelve jurors to say yes

1076
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: or no. You only need a nine nine out of twelve,

1077
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: nine out. So what happened? They came back six six.

1078
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: They were split. Six said the cops are wrong. Six

1079
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: said the cops were right. So the judge told him

1080
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: to go back there and continue deliberating. So the six

1081
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: that said the cops are right, we're able to get

1082
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: three of the other six that said the cops are

1083
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: wrong to go on their side. Came back nine three.

1084
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: Carl Douglas loses. The city of Los Angeles wins. You've

1085
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: been watching this video. Hey, I didn't get to see

1086
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: the whole trial. I just came in there, authenticated the

1087
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: video and left, so I didn't see all the other witnesses,

1088
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: all the evidence. But hey, for six jurors to say

1089
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: the cops are wrong, they were kind of feeling Carl Douglas.

1090
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: But hey, one of the few cases that he rarely

1091
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: loses the case, and he won't take a case unless

1092
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: he feels like he's gonna win. He won a big one.

1093
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: He won four billion dollar case. Four guess four behind

1094
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: some family catching on fire on one of the cars. Yeah,

1095
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: they were Ethiopian or African and the card on fire,

1096
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: the card from from the crash four billion dollars. All right,

1097
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: let's just cover one more thing before. I don't know,

1098
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure they settled for cheaper because I'm sure they appealed.

1099
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: All right, last thing, um red. Just as a question

1100
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: that comes and I think it's really interesting. What can

1101
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: you talk about the day to day operations at death

1102
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: Row when you took over, when you became this guess

1103
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: after Sugar got violated, and were you involved with signing

1104
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: artists and who else ran the label? All right, um,

1105
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: there the operations were wake up in the morning, you

1106
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: pull up at Samvasanth and Wilsha every day. I mean

1107
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: I went there, but I didn't do it in the morning.

1108
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: I had Shook happened, just like everybody did. I did

1109
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: most of my stuff on the phone. I got to

1110
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: the office about three four every day, but you know,

1111
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: I was on the phone because she was calling. He

1112
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: was calling me like I used to sit on the

1113
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: phone with Shook from probably about through nine. But luckily

1114
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: it was going to the office. But yeah, it was

1115
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: crazy back then. From nine to twelve, we're calling everybody,

1116
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: many his women. And then from twelve and one he

1117
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: went to lunch, so that's when I start getting dressed.

1118
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: Then they I think they did a count about two

1119
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: or something and and and then um, I think until four.

1120
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: So I got on the phone. So between that time,

1121
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: I was usually traveling, uh traveling because I live in

1122
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Corona and Riverside, California, and I was driving. Well my

1123
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: boy got he was driving me, thank god, you know.

1124
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: He was helping me out a lot with that. And

1125
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 1: so Bobby would come and pick me up and drive

1126
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: me to work and we will get there about four o'clock.

1127
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: And and so that was the day to day operations.

1128
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: But Thursday through Sunday I was up at the prison

1129
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: with him, dealing with him and um mill Creek and

1130
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: uh see him I which was the one who things

1131
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: was in baseball for the first couple of years. From

1132
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: see m C sm C, I was that somebody big?

1133
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: Is that SEMC right now? They called them MC the

1134
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: China doll, right, I think it's China doll. Well, it's

1135
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: so important for you to see sugar so many times

1136
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: and win prison was just talking mainly talking about what's

1137
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: going on, how to deal with stuff. Did you have

1138
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: a feeling that this label was about to sink it.

1139
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Didn't think that's the That's the thing. During my tenure,

1140
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: we sold DA's album, DA's Retaliation Get Back. We had

1141
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: two soundtracks, Gang Related and Gridlocked. All of these are

1142
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: albums that went platinum. We did until the end of time.

1143
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: But those were deals already in the that would already

1144
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: made before Sugar went to prison, right because Gang Related. Yeah,

1145
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean deals were made, but they had to be

1146
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: completed and the album had to be distributed and worked. Um.

1147
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of getting new artists, don't get the artists,

1148
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: don't get to that. Keeping artists, we uh negotiated the y'all.

1149
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: Don't y'all get mad when I say sale. But the

1150
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: assignment of Snoop contract to to priority a masterp uh.

1151
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: That got us four and a half million dollars and

1152
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: the override was instrumental and that um we made an override.

1153
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: That's why we call it the last meal, or he

1154
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: called it the last minute. Wouldn't have been better to

1155
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: keep keep Snoop as one of the marquee artists, I

1156
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: don't think so. Why not? He didn't want to be there?

1157
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: One and number two we made seven percent, seven to

1158
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: ten percent off of each album that he did with

1159
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: No No Limit got four and a half million dollars.

1160
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Gave him a million dollars of that, and they say

1161
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: we owe you any more money and the books are

1162
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: clean with you. But you could have made way more

1163
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: money if he was happy at Death Row making two, three,

1164
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: four more. But but but Snoop didn't have a great run.

1165
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: He didn't have a great run. I mean, think about

1166
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: the albums that he did after he left us. Uh,

1167
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: he didn't start doing real good until Bitch Police would

1168
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: exhibit he did. Said like I said, we still had

1169
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: an override on him. So you know the Snoop thing,

1170
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: um uh. The only albums that did bad under my

1171
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: watch or whatever. In my opinion, Mr Lay's album and

1172
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: the Lady of Rage album I always wanted to gang related.

1173
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, death Row greatest hits did overtend to twelve

1174
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: me and uh album sales, which which wouldn't have happened

1175
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: if it wasn't with me because she was pissed that

1176
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: I allowed track masters to do that that song, um uh,

1177
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: that remix that he did on the album of Changes.

1178
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: Are you a better businessman when it came to Death

1179
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Row than Sugar? Business wise? I think so because I

1180
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: was easier, easier to deal with and and and um

1181
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: it was more precise, but creatively and and and marketing.

1182
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't I think she is still one of the

1183
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: best of that James, what did you want to ask? Reggie?

1184
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: My question is transitioning from the police station the death row.

1185
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't that ship hard man? I gotta get to this,

1186
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: I gotta do this. I got you really had to

1187
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: be on your toes. And then on top of that,

1188
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: sugar and trusted you with were just big as company

1189
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: while he was gone. The good thing I was, but

1190
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: I still was able to communicate. It wasn't like he

1191
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: was just gone, I know, but I was still able

1192
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: to communicate with him, and and that that would be

1193
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: my problem, being nervous of feeling Did you ever feel

1194
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: like you was gonna you weren't gonna be able to

1195
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: do this ship? I think my confidence was there, and

1196
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: I had been around him for two years every day

1197
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: before he went to jail. You remember from you pretty

1198
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: much picked up. I was with that nigger, traveling, going

1199
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: to meeting. He used to let us go on meetings

1200
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: with him. You know, he didn't keep us outside, He

1201
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: didn't bring you in. You know he was, so he

1202
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: was in there, said when he was meeting with with

1203
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: Ted Fields or Jimmy Ivan or Anchar Broflan or those

1204
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: types of people you know, uh uh the guy from

1205
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: Time Warner, you know, he would bring you know, Lee

1206
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: or Corn and Russell Simon. He would pretty much have

1207
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: you in no meetings with him. So when he when

1208
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: he went to prison, you was pretty much like the

1209
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: again already and didn't have to that part. But mainly

1210
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: I still had him to lean on. I still say, hey,

1211
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. How would you do? You know?

1212
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: I mainly would do it on the phone when we're talking.

1213
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: How would you deal with this situation? Man? I came

1214
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: up with this situation because you know, you're not allowed

1215
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: to run a business California, stay low while while you're

1216
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: in prison. You're not allowed to run a business. And

1217
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: so I would say, well, you know, how would how

1218
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: would you have at this situation if he was you know,

1219
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: if you had to deal with that. To be honest,

1220
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: Ship didn't really care. I'll be caring about because that

1221
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: was the problem I had. I was dealing with his

1222
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: personal life and his business deal mainly most of the

1223
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: problems came was from his women and his and his

1224
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: and not his parents, his mama, you know, his mother.

1225
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: And they were they were like, well, she'll, I want

1226
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: to do this. I want to do that, and then

1227
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: I want this, I need this, I need a new car,

1228
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: I need this, I need this, or his sisters need

1229
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: this or or whatever, and then I will go to ship. Okay,

1230
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Mims called about this and no answer. Well, she'll, you

1231
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: must ain't telling Shi that, uh, I said, and too

1232
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: you know you look yeah, And he was mad. He

1233
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: was an angry man in prison. She was a hater.

1234
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean, our boy did we talk about all day Bountry.

1235
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: I can tell you all some stories of the things

1236
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: that I then did to say, shed, I need to

1237
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: do this, dog, I need that, and then we'll be

1238
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: like and they didn't find out I did it, and

1239
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: then they'd be like, oh, I'm glad you did it. Rich. Well.

1240
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: Another part of this question is asking did you sign

1241
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: any new artists? Crooked Eye? Uh, the rillists, Top doll Um, Uh,

1242
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: Top doll the Rillists, Crooked Eye, who was all going on?

1243
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: And pretty much anybody that was on Chronic two thousand.

1244
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Her cobain Um gave him a lot more responsibility as

1245
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: a producer, made Das gave Das more of a role.

1246
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: Um as a producer. Did they all come out with albums? Uh?

1247
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: After different type of compilations. We had one call um. Well,

1248
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: of course all the Tupac stuff, you know, we remade

1249
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: and I said they all lost the Laws. Wasn't signed

1250
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: to the record company, uh uh, because they were going

1251
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: to sign straight to Tupac to to his record label.

1252
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: Minus one member well fatal, yeah, yeah, fatal. Uh. He

1253
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: got sent home by Pop prior to uh um, you know,

1254
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: to to Parc. Dan was after Pop. I said he

1255
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: had got something. That's why he wasn't out there. So

1256
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: it was the outlaw still trying to do their thing

1257
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: with one one less member. Well, they got another one.

1258
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: That's when Noble came in. That's when Noble came around.

1259
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: So it was four of them. So how did how

1260
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: did the company do financially with these new artists that

1261
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: you signed? New groups artists we were and that's why

1262
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to explain. Um, you know the Chronic

1263
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: two thousand one. If you go listen to that album,

1264
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: that was a good album and they all went platinum.

1265
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't the numbers the death row was used to.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't have the overhead that death row was

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: used to as well. You didn't have people living in

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Speaker 1: in fifty tho dollars a month condo condos on Worlshire.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have people riding around the Rose roy Since

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: and five sales and and all of that. You cut

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Speaker 1: all that out. All of that was cut out. And

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Speaker 1: that's why Reggie was the bad guy because Reggie still

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: riding around in a six. Everybody know who told Regie

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Speaker 1: you got to keep your card up. I would have

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Speaker 1: my own ship. I ain't never had nothing under death row.

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Speaker 1: Everything was under Reggie right or or red. Ship that

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: other people were in was in Reggie Wright's name. The

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Speaker 1: building that was eventually in Reggie Wright's name personally, not

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Speaker 1: as a business or entity. And so did you put

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Speaker 1: that billboard on the top of the building home? I

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: did all that Welcome Home with a big cutout of

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: that was from the prison pitcher until that was a

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Speaker 1: prison pitcher. That was a prison pitcher. I used to

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01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: drive by that car. You know, he had no idea

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01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: about that. That was just me. We had the billboard

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: at the time and clear channel wasn't paying. They end

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: up sing I asking and got a five judgment against that.

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: You have to do it through them exactly, you just

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: put it up yourself. The lease was up, and I

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: was trying to negotiate the price with him. And during

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: the time of the negotiating the price with him, which

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: I eventually I'll started getting ten thousand dollars a month.

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: That's what was able to I was able to live

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Speaker 1: off from the time home I left the row and

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: tell about two thousand and six. And the last part

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Speaker 1: of the question is who else ran the label other

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Speaker 1: than you? Well, well, SI was smart and that's the

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01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: good thing. Well, people always say Reggie was still bullshit

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: because what happened. I was able to generate checks, but

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: the checks were done by ignatures. Are a stamp. His

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01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: daddy was able to find text personally his father with

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: his personal signature, which end up playing out because um,

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: because the mama was seeing everything and the family was

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, he got tired of everybody knowing his business

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: and so um that eventually played out. But uh, michele uh.

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: She had a rubber stamp and she would stamp it,

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: and another female had another stamp and she would stamp

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: something to check. So those are the two people that

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: he the females that he had trusted that I would

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01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: go to to get check signed, so they couldn't have

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: anything generated. I was don't to have anything generated, but

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't have nothing signed that would get cashed by

1313
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: the bank because I would have to go to them.

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: So Dads was never a CEO. Come on, now, that's

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: a Druggie. I think I've read somewhere. I think he

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: said that I had him in charge of the music,

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: the production, and you know, as far as into the studio,

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01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: and he was a good producer. He was a hell

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: of a producer. Is he still? Do you think he

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: still got it in two thousand nineteen producing music? Um?

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: When has he done? I'm not sure? I'm just it

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: seems like even my point is, what John, what have

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: they done? Don Harper? Was this tyrone? What have they done?

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: Who's out there making his now other than dre still today?

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: J don't even do it. He does it for fun,

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: play or whatever. But who who's doing it? Who's doing it? Hey, James,

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: do you think Reggie did a good job when he

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: took over? I know he wasn't around so much. But

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01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was hearing things. Man, don't get me

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: like I was mad at Reggie. My goddamn every time

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01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: my assie, which shot that I need to check he

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01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where he yet. Well he talked about

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: once he got out, when he came out, I was

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: still the person you got to get to get the show. Okay,

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: So you're talking about that, yeah, yeah. And then I

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Speaker 1: think that billboard you guys had it called the Row.

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01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't death Row anymore. Yeah, that's we changed. That's

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: when the Death Row. That's why Murder Ink changed their

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: name to the Ink. People were trying to get away

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: from that. I actually talked to no one, no legal reasons.

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: I talked to you into that because man, we had

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: a case with the Broomfields from from sixties where they

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: were the ones that bore corrupt over to the label

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: when he was young, and when we signed corrupt um,

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: the jury came back with a judgment against us for

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: over eight or two million dollars and said, you know,

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to make his own to start something else,

1348
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: but we want to put this company out of business

1349
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: because we don't like that name death Row. That's what

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: people saying. We don't like the name death Row, and

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: so we want to try to put him out of

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01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: the business. When he come home, get out of jail.

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01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: He's smart enough he can go and create something, to

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01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: start something else new, And so even the judge was like,

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: wait man, you know, and she dropped it down to

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: like two or three million dollars. And then that's when

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: we had to go and work out a deal with

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: the Broomfields and eventually ain't down somebody to make that

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01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: case go away. So if the case went away, why

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: did you change your name then? Because we don't want

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: another incident like that that happened where where, you know,

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: we just felt that climate was like deaf murder. We're

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: talking now two thousand one, ninety two thousand and I

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: think we were people were we were really dying. Yeah,

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01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: people were just nicer. It was just they didn't ship.

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01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, we came out with the terrorist thread laws

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: and all of that. The things that you used to

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01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: can get away within the nineties you couldn't get away

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: with anymore. It was different times. And it's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I kind of changed my platform from

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Speaker 1: street GANGSVAT. I just wanted to sanitize the name a

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01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 1: little bit, bring more people on and not get that negative.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: You know. Look when people ask me, what's your channel,

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: call street Gangs? Yeah, you know, so now street TV.

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Speaker 1: But let's wrap it up here. I want to thank

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: everyone well before we close it off, I want to

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: throw off that we got some some guests coming up

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: that we need to people to send some some questions

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01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: over to UM in the next couple of weeks. Chico Brown,

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: Chico Brown and maybe and then Glad the following week.

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: But Chico Brown is a guy most people y'all won't know,

1382
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: like who's Chico Brown. But he was one of Freeway Ricks,

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: the right hand guy. But now he's trying to do

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: positive things in the city of Compton. He has um

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: some type of gang um uh, I don't I don't

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: know what to call him. But the people that goes

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: around help and trying to clean up the city. And yeah,

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: in the city of Compton. He's also like the right

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: hand of the lasign to the mayor of Compton, Asia Brown,

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: beautiful Asia Brown, and so I think here another dually,

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01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: he has a brother in law. Most people don't know

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: that he his brother is married to Asia Brown. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: so that's that's his brother in law, her brother in

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: law and so anyway, so we're gonna have him come

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01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: on and talk about some things going on in the city,

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: deal Compton and you know, his thing with Freeway, Rick

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01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: and and whatever. The topic of the weekends. So please

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Speaker 1: go to the if you're listening on iTunes, go to

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: the rate and review, submit your questions and any sort

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: of ideas you have, and thanks for listening to another

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Speaker 1: episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This has been a Digital

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