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Speaker 2: It is Thursday October twenty eighth, or it's Wednesday, October

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Speaker 2: twenty seventh. You know, it's a little it's a little

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Speaker 2: when you get this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Big episode.

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Speaker 2: We've got Shay Serano on, uh, you know, obviously one

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Speaker 2: of our favorite people out there, so definitely you want

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Speaker 2: to stick around check that out. As always, Jenkinson Jones

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Speaker 2: is hosted by my good buddies Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody off a gun.

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Speaker 3: Jenkins.

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Speaker 2: John was that Bubba's GUARDI b a k A Mike

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Speaker 2: And uh, first of all, just right up top, we

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Speaker 2: are bringing back Booker boy of the week and he

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Speaker 2: is going to mister white collar on the Twitter who

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Speaker 2: was like talking about Tyler's trajectory chefter.

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Speaker 1: Twitter space Jones prajectory of Dragonfly Space Jones. Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: that guy.

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Speaker 5: I will telling y'all, I've never looked at a mouth

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Speaker 5: and hated a mouth like I hate every little piece

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Speaker 5: of that motherfucking dog.

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Speaker 1: The fucking Linclin.

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Speaker 5: Fucking picture he has for fucking Twitter, the trajectory of Dragonfly.

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Speaker 5: First name, Jones, last name, Fuck that nigga.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some biggest NBA surprises before we

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Speaker 2: hop on with Shay. What what's jumped out to you

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Speaker 2: guys so far this season? You know, over the first

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Speaker 2: first week of the NBA season.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Bulls four. Oh, I think that's a big shock.

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Speaker 1: I think we all saw the Bulls. Yeah, I think,

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Speaker 1: well you got it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Michael Jordan was playing for the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think we all saw that the

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Speaker 1: Bulls were gonna.

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Speaker 5: Ben But you know, you go, you go, I hear.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the first time, the first time it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a fact. It's a fact, it's a fact. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we all saw that the Bulls. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be coming this season. But I mean

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Speaker 1: they've been ridiculously good so far, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: which kind of gives me hesitancy because I feel like

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Speaker 1: when you think a team is going to be a

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, the fucking averages are going to average

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Speaker 1: out sooner or later here, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what this season has the stores for Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I don't I mean, what.

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Speaker 1: What they've been doing. I mean, Lonzo looked great. He

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Speaker 1: looked great last year. You know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I don't see why it wouldn't

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Speaker 5: have been what it is now based on the teams

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Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be fun. We knew that

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Speaker 1: it's just better before we thought it was better.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it's any different than what we

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Speaker 5: thought it could be right now, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I just I think Zach is so much better.

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Speaker 2: The gamble of bringing some pieces, the gamble of bringing

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Speaker 2: in some pieces was that Zach would be able to

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Speaker 2: take a leap without everything being on his shoulders. And

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Speaker 2: I think that has absolutely they've been proven right on

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Speaker 2: that gamble already, which is good news.

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Speaker 1: Levine had to focus on.

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Speaker 5: All this focus on is getting buckets, nothing else, Lavigne,

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Speaker 5: just getting buckets. Is we know that's gonna be good,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, we know it's gonna better

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Speaker 3: So, John, what's your What's what's your biggest surprise so

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Speaker 3: far this season?

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Speaker 5: I got a couple of them, guys, Okay, I got

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Speaker 5: a couple of surprises.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 5: We knew John was gonna like take a step after

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Speaker 5: the fucking playoffs, you know what I mean. We knew

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Speaker 5: for this year. But like, holy fucking shit, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. We're talking about like there's conversations of

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Speaker 5: job or Zion.

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Speaker 1: If we had to pick today who were taken.

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Speaker 5: I know, Tyler, you said you're going with the dude

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Speaker 5: that you know, going, you know, shoot a six percent

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know what I mean. He's just

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Speaker 5: I don't know if him being healthy is gonna change

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Speaker 5: as he ages, you know what I mean, Maybe he'll

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Speaker 5: I don't know. That doesn't quite make sense. But Joah

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Speaker 5: I mean, we just had a conversation the Top one

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Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five years from now, and we were

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Speaker 5: talking about John Moran, not Zion, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: I think that's crazy so and I think, like the

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Speaker 5: Hounds aren't just fun anymore.

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Speaker 1: They're good, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like and LaMelo is that wasn't like hey were just

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Speaker 5: having fun my first, you know, I think Lamello like he's.

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Speaker 1: A fucking hooper.

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Speaker 5: He says this is his six year being pro basically

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Speaker 5: or some shit like that, like at least his fourth

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Speaker 5: year being pro being honest, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: He was overseas, but I mean that shocked the ship

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Speaker 5: out of me. And I think, like Jayleen Brown, bro,

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Speaker 5: like I was surprised he got to the step he

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Speaker 5: made last year, you know what I mean, Like I know,

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Speaker 5: everybody was talking about he's going to be this and

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Speaker 5: I was like, I we'll see the year before that

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Speaker 5: was he was good. Last year, he was an All star,

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Speaker 5: you know, this year is like.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what the you know what?

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Speaker 5: And he's and he's exciting to watch, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like a fishing as fuck.

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Speaker 1: That shocked the ship out of me so far. You know.

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Speaker 5: So those are my three things that shocked me at

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 2: You're such a fucking asshole. You're You're such a fucking dickhead.

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Speaker 2: I have to come up with segments, John, No.

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Speaker 1: I'm making fun of me.

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Speaker 4: Three things.

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Speaker 5: I have three things, guys, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That motherfucking Jayleen dunk on Bridges. Oh my god, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. What I loved about that was the was

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Speaker 1: the ship talking that Jaylen did after that, because he's

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Speaker 1: such a measured, calculating, you know, smart guy. And it's

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Speaker 1: like he said, you know, he tells us the whole

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Speaker 1: you know, his his hypothesizing, and then he detoes the

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Speaker 1: ship talking over in right, he goes, you know, I

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Speaker 1: knew that if I if I went up with a layup,

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Speaker 1: you know, my bridge is gonna send my shit back

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Speaker 1: to Boston. So I went up with the worst intentions, right,

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Speaker 1: Like he tells us, you know, the fucking risk reward

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Speaker 1: aspect of this equation, and then he talks his ship

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Speaker 1: at the end. And I love that, man, but I

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Speaker 1: mean that's a fact though.

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Speaker 5: You go to shot blocker. You gotta go at the

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Speaker 5: ass right at him. You try to avoid him, he

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Speaker 5: would have pushed that shit, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: And in fact, he dunked on Miles Bridges that it's

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Speaker 5: usually the other way.

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Speaker 1: Miles is the one embarrassing niggas, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And I respect the fuck out of Miles for jumper

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Speaker 5: right there. You had to jump, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I mean his head almost fucking hit the rim when

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Speaker 5: he tried to block that shit. But you gotta talk

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Speaker 5: a little shit as you dunk on Miles Bridges, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. Come on now, best rapper in

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Speaker 5: NBA history, not the best rap song, best rapper, she

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Speaker 3: So, Shaye, how are you doing.

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Speaker 6: I'm feeling all right. I'm feeling okay right now, feeling

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 6: Like it's I'm certainly busier than I am normally most days.

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Speaker 6: And I asked Bun about it, like, do you remember

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Speaker 1: Leave it to Bunbe to teach lessons while rapping about murder.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Guy finger licking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the best, the best verse in Southern rap history.

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Speaker 1: I think it's for sure the best bump Be verse.

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Speaker 6: For sure, it's the best overall. It's best verse in

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Speaker 1: He was just very, very problematic if you listen to

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Speaker 6: He was, but he wasn't doing what Bunby is. Fucking

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Speaker 1: You we're talking about a god? Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Say, I want to ask you about a book release

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Speaker 2: you've written, you know obviously written a lot online.

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Speaker 3: I know you started out writing for you know, a newspaper.

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Speaker 2: Books are fucking weird because, like you said, you worked

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Speaker 3: No, Hey, I love this or this was really funny?

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Speaker 2: I mean I I personally have found that about writing,

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Speaker 2: It's like you're in your office working, You're working by

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Speaker 3: Is that difficult for you?

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Speaker 2: And does that make this week sort of, you know,

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Speaker 6: It was definitely more difficult the first time that I

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Speaker 6: I write like eighteen chapters before I turn them into them,

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So the only person who really got

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Speaker 6: He was a fact checker and the researcher for the book.

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Speaker 6: He's a fucking rap historian genius. He was the only

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Speaker 4: I was just like, here's the whole fucking book.

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Speaker 6: By it or don't but it's it's it's fun now

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Speaker 6: because there are just so few other avenues where you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, So you know the format of your Whole

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Speaker 1: of your books, which I love. They always come from

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Speaker 1: Like one chapter is, what did the chickens have to

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Speaker 1: And you know when when does Young Jeezy the most

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Speaker 1: motivating on Doug Motivation one on one? And you know

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite ninja rap moment? And I'm just curious

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Speaker 4: Well, usually they're reverse engineered.

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Speaker 6: So I have a thing that I know I want

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Speaker 4: We're all gonna write it. We're all gonna write about.

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Speaker 6: Tupac and Biggie, We're all gonna write about Illmatic, We're

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Speaker 4: And sometimes it's like pretty easy.

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Speaker 6: With the Thug Motivation one on one, the album is

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Speaker 4: He's being motivational.

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Speaker 6: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's an easy one to fill and that one took

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Speaker 6: But the Chickens one that you mentioned, what did the

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Speaker 4: When you read the chapter, it's not.

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Speaker 6: Really about the chickens, and it's not really about Project

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Speaker 6: really what it's about is like what's the single most

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Speaker 1: For sure, and the and the bass drop on back

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Speaker 1: that ass up gets my vote for that, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: There's a chapter that debates like the best album of

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Speaker 5: like I think twenty nineteen, Yeah, like Good Kid, Mass

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Speaker 5: City or like my beautiful twisted dark Fantasy. I want

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Speaker 5: to know what if, like aliens came to this planet

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Speaker 5: last three decades. I don't give a fuck about eighties rap.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, it's like the nineties.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people feel like that.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's George Mike and Rap to John the Pivots,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I dribbling left to be I think

440
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 6: that's a mistake, but I understand.

441
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: I respect I respect it.

442
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 5: If you had to present a rap album to the aliens,

443
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 5: since I, you know, prove our worth from the last

444
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 5: three decades, which albums.

445
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: Would you choose?

446
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 4: I just get I get one album like.

447
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 1: He decade because I'm mean saying thirty decades.

448
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 4: Oh okay, years, Yeah, I got you. Okay.

449
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 6: So then if if we're doing well, if we're let's

450
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 6: include the eighties because it's gonna take five seconds. If

451
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 6: we go from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty nine, give

452
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 6: me Eric being Rockham paid in for Yeah.

453
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 7: I tried to get John on that, and that's the one.

454
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 7: I was like, Bro, if you don't like eighties rap,

455
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 7: you like He's like, nah, I still don't, bro, because

456
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 7: that was bro. I just I don't know if I

457
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 7: listened to it, I might not listen to it, bro,

458
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 7: but I just I'll try it. I guess that one's good.

459
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, even if you don't like eighties rap,

460
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: you'll like rock him because he's so fucking futuristic. Bro.

461
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

462
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 6: He was the first guy who who like understood he

463
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 6: was rapping in a in a recording booth. And not

464
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 6: on stage. He wasn't doing what everybody else was doing.

465
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 6: He was sucking right right.

466
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: He changed everything, He changed every single thing.

467
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: Jumped his jump shot. You're saying he was jumping Joe,

468
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: That's what you're telling me.

469
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 4: He brought the ball up to the top of his

470
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 4: head and.

471
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: Ship do that. But that's exactly the point. Like all

472
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: the rappers before Rock Him, they were rapping for the party,

473
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: Rock Kim was rapping for your headphones. You know what

474
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, like I always say, you know, Rock Kim,

475
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: he was the media that killed the dinosaurs, you know

476
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, even if you don't like eighties

477
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: wrapped Rock Him is the definitive marker on where you

478
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: know he the fucking game shifted next, But I'll tap

479
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: in next time it rains, I'll tap in. I'm a

480
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: hold one of my favorites.

481
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 4: It's also a really good album.

482
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 6: If you have kids and you like still want to

483
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 6: listen to rap, you could put that one on your Yeah,

484
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 6: that's a good.

485
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good. That's a great recommendation. Actually,

486
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. That's good.

487
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: I just sort of gave it up with my son

488
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: who's in third grade. Now, we're just like, you know what.

489
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: It is?

490
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: What it is.

491
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: A big moochie gray being played in my car. She goes,

492
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm to get used to it.

493
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 6: Okay, album, So from nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty nine,

494
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 6: we're going Eric B and Rockham paid in full. Ninety

495
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 6: to ninety nine is the most difficult decision to make there,

496
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 6: because that's the that's when rap exploded, That's when everybody

497
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 6: did all of the new shit.

498
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: Every year there was.

499
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Speaker 6: You had a tribe called Quest in ninety one, you

500
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 6: had Doctor Dre. In ninety two, you had Snoop and

501
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 6: Wu Tang. In ninety three, you had Nas in ninety four, Tupac,

502
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 6: Biggie jay Z, Little Kim, Missy Elliott, DMX like motherfucker,

503
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 6: you can pick it.

504
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: You can pick any one of those.

505
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 6: But I think if it's aliens we're talking about, you

506
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 6: needed to sound a certain what you needed to sound welcoming.

507
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 6: You needed to sound like excess both to alien ears.

508
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 6: I think it has I think I think it has

509
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 6: to be. You can't play DMX. If you play DMX,

510
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 6: they're fucking shooting bombed ass immediately. So it's either it's

511
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: one of two things. It's one of two things, the

512
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 6: same reason you can't play Wu Tang. If you play

513
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 6: Wu Tang, if they hear fucking protect your neck, your

514
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 6: fucking just slit your throat immediately. So it's either nineteen

515
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 6: ninety seven Super Dupi Fly Missy Elliott because I'm almost

516
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 6: certain aliens have heard that, or or doggy style Snoop

517
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety three.

518
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three.

519
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 6: The g funk is maybe my favorite subgenre of rap.

520
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 6: They took all of the like harsh, sharp edge heaviness

521
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 6: of gangster rap from the eighties and they just turned

522
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 6: it into fun. It went from crack to weed and

523
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 6: it was like, let's put this on. They would like,

524
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 6: I feel like they would like Nate Dogg. A whole

525
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 6: bunch who doesn't fucking love Nate Dogg. So there you go,

526
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 6: there's your pick.

527
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: There. My genis is fucking floating right now.

528
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: Ten sizes the longat shout outs from Shay. Absolutely.

529
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: G funk is like absolutely a genre of music where

530
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: you're like, if the aliens are a micro bacterial virus,

531
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: or if they are like bigger than the sun, no

532
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: living thing would not like G funk.

533
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: Anything that would love g funk. I'm with you all that.

534
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: You might say Outcast too, I thought you might have.

535
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 6: If we have to pick one single song, only one song, ever,

536
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 6: then it's Outcast. It's Elevators by Outcast, That's what it is.

537
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 6: But a whole album, a whole if you get that

538
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 6: much real estate. I think Missy's super Duper Flyers a

539
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 6: safe bet there because it just it's twenty four years

540
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 6: old and we still haven't gotten to it yet, you

541
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Yeah, nope, just we're so far behind. Okay,

542
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 6: So there's nineteen and ninety nine, two thousand to two

543
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 6: thousand and nine. You got a couple of good ones

544
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 6: in there. The first one that comes to mind is

545
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 6: is is Lord Willing by Clips? I think that's in then.

546
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 6: I think that's a contender. Now tatloke up in the morning.

547
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: For sensual rap recommendations with it man, Yeah, I think

548
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: I think.

549
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: So that's that's one of the options. I would love

550
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: for them to hear.

551
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 6: Push a t in Malice you probably would consider get

552
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 6: Rich or Die trying a pivotal moment of one of

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 6: the I think still that came out in two thousand

554
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 6: and two, two thousand and three. Still no rap album

555
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 6: has ever sold more copies than that one since that

556
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 6: one came out.

557
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: Like that's the top right there.

558
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a crazy, crazy rap stat The Outcast, get Outcasts?

559
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: What was it when they did the double album?

560
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 6: When you sell, when you sell that, when you get

561
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 6: double credit, so like they technically they had more sold,

562
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 6: but really they didn't.

563
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: So you so so those are the I don't.

564
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know if I've ever seen a rapper

565
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: have a higher peak than No, No, you did it,

566
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: you did it.

567
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 5: I mean doing the same thing he beats with another

568
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 5: rapper about, which is like singing on fucking songs.

569
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.

570
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 6: It was the perfect rapper at the perfect moment because

571
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: the gangster rap had been dead since Tupac and Biggie

572
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 6: past and since they were murdered. Everybody was like, well,

573
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 6: I don't know if we feel like that anymore. And

574
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 6: then Puff shows up and they're like, yeah, this is

575
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 6: this is more fun. Let's do that, and then Eminem

576
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 6: and you know, DMX was probably like the beginning of

577
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 6: it again, but fifty cent was like, here's how you

578
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 6: make it fun right anyway? Lord will and get Richard,

579
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 6: I tryan. We talked about Doug Motivation one on one.

580
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 6: I think that I think that might be my pick.

581
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 6: I think Doug Motivation one on one. I like the South.

582
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: I'm a I'm a Southern guy. I'm a Texas boy. Yeah,

583
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 6: I think feel good about that.

584
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: That that that's summer five. When seeing one on one drive,

585
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I'll forget about it for about all the space it took,

586
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: all the lanes, you know what I mean. That incredible dog,

587
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, no room for nothing else.

588
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 6: It was yeah, shock and me And then I guess

589
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 6: twenty ten to two thousand and nineteen, I would I

590
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 6: would probably go I would probably go, good Kid, Mad City.

591
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 6: I think it's just it's just beautiful. It's a beautiful album.

592
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 6: It has so many parts and pieces to it. It

593
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 6: does all of this stuff you need an album to do.

594
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 6: You have number one, the starring the starring role in it,

595
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: And I think this is why you picked this over

596
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 6: My Beautiful Fantasy. Because Kanye was late in his career,

597
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 6: he was doing his Like Redemption Tour for the Taylor

598
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: Swift debacle. He was like the master of the symphony.

599
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: He had a thousand pieces in there, and he's showing

600
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 6: you he can control all of them all at once. Meanwhile,

601
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 6: good kid mess It is the opposite. It's just one

602
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 6: kid at the beginning of his career and he's at

603
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 6: the center of everything, and you've just got a few

604
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: people orbiting around him. You got the Jay Rock verse

605
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: that's on there. Come on, get the fuck out of here.

606
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: You got.

607
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: It's like one long story that's told from the middle

608
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: back to the end, and then the beginning in the

609
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 6: middle again. It all fucking ties together. I think there

610
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 6: you go. There's there's the four albums to play for

611
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 6: the Aliens. Thanks for listening.

612
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: Aliens.

613
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: It's such a It's such a funny question, John, because

614
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, that's like a question we ask is

615
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: like what movie would you show the aliens?

616
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: Like what TV show?

617
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: But we never think about like if we find life

618
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: on Mars, the first thing we're doing is like, what's

619
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: your best album?

620
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: Like we only think about it when people coming here

621
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: and the Aliens are like, it's a new world.

622
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 2: They have these things called trees, and the first thing

623
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: are is like, you got any good TV shows? Yeah?

624
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's just how dumb humans are.

625
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: They show up with lasers and proton blasters, and we're like, hey,

626
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 6: you want to listen to you want to listen to nas,

627
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 6: you want to heart.

628
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: Check this out? So stupid we are.

629
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: I think aliens would actually appreciate music, because I do

630
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: like this, because if you're in a if you're advanced

631
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: enough to fucking master interstellar travel, right, math is the

632
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: core of your whole ship. You know what I'm saying,

633
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Like you, you are a species that is devoted to

634
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: math and music at its core is a fucking algorithm.

635
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a it's a fucking pattern.

636
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: It's this, it's repetitive, it's an algorithm. And I think

637
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: that if you appreciate math, even if you've never even

638
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: heard music before, you're like, holy shit, what is this?

639
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: This is?

640
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: This is sounding the same on the same cycle. You know,

641
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I hear the fucking the formula and this. I think

642
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: that and would appreciate music. I really you're alien, bro.

643
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: I think you're alien for saying that because I think

644
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: alien music would sound like bleep blore.

645
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: But I think that's what I was thinking to you

646
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it would.

647
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: Sound like when you signed on a computer like fucking

648
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: in the nineties and ship you know what I.

649
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 6: Mean, Yeah, it would be that one. It would be

650
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 6: that one sound. Did y'all ever see War of the

651
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 6: World with Tom Cruise, Yes, and there's like a there's

652
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 6: that giant it just goes w That was probably them

653
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 6: playing their best song. They're like, hey, check this out.

654
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: This music to me. That's maybe music to me, you

655
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

656
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 6: That might be that might be a better that might

657
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Speaker 6: be a better play. We're thinking about it from humans,

658
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Speaker 6: we should maybe think about it from like alien we

659
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Speaker 6: shoul probably playing Tech nine and they're they're fucking probably

660
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Speaker 6: love Tech nine.

661
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Speaker 4: Jesus would be.

662
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Speaker 2: So in.

663
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Speaker 1: Kansas City's Finest.

664
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Speaker 3: Shay.

665
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Speaker 2: So you know we mentioned obviously a big week is

666
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, you're pushing the book definitely. Everyone make sure

667
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: you go get hip hop and other things. We're trying

668
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: to close out the trilogy with another New York Times

669
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Speaker 2: best selling uh Lie Tyler's showing the book off. I'm

670
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: gonna go get it on Friday. We're under the deadline

671
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: for the best seller on Friday. Right Saturday is the

672
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Speaker 2: last day. That's how it works.

673
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Speaker 4: Books come out to buy the book. Till Saturday.

674
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Speaker 3: You have to Saturday. Yes, I was just gonna say so.

675
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: But the other big news is we mentioned up top,

676
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: is you know you have a show in development, which

677
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: is you were just talking about the book being the

678
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: one person focused on it for eighteen months. I know,

679
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: TV is the exact opposite. There's seventy people focused.

680
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: On it for however long. What's that experience been like

681
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Speaker 3: for you.

682
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: Is that kind of the direction you're looking to push

683
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: from now on or are you still just kind of trying,

684
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, everything that comes to you that you can

685
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: get your your hands into.

686
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just trying to do as much shit as

687
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 6: I can. You just you don't know if you like

688
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 6: a thing. You don't like a thing until you try

689
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: to do the thing. And so with the TV show stuff,

690
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 6: we actually pitched that show in twenty and seventeen for

691
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: the first time, me and this guy named Mike Sure.

692
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 6: Mike is like a TV mastermind. The Good Place, The Office,

693
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 6: Parks and rec Brooklyn nine nine, every good TV show

694
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 6: you can think of the last ten years. He like

695
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 6: he was in it, he was a part of it,

696
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 6: he created it or whatever. So Mike and I we

697
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: went and pitched this show in twenty and seventeen. We

698
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 6: pitched it to the four major networks, ABCNBCCBS, and Fox,

699
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 6: and then luckily we got offers from all four of them,

700
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Speaker 6: so we started developing it then for ABC. And you

701
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 6: go through like a process where you write a script,

702
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 6: they give you some notes, you touch it up, you

703
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 6: turn it in, and then you cross your fingers and

704
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 6: hope TV stations like once a year they will just

705
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 6: buy up like fifty scripts and then they pick up

706
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Speaker 6: those fifty like three or for to make a pilot of,

707
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 6: and then of those three or four they pick like

708
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Speaker 6: one to turn into like a full on TV show.

709
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 6: I think that's how it works. This is my first

710
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 6: time through all of this. I could have just made

711
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 6: all of that shit up. But so we worked on

712
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: it for ABC. We got to the pilot part and

713
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 6: then that was the end of it and they were like,

714
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: you know, great tribe, thanks a lot, see you later.

715
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: And then that was the end, and I was like,

716
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: all right, cool. And then during the pandemic, I got

717
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 6: a fucking email from this guy named David, who is

718
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 6: like one of those guys who moves in the shadows

719
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: and you find out like, this is the guy who

720
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 6: does everything.

721
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: He's one of the tvampires.

722
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, David is like a genius. Everybody loves and respects David.

723
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 6: And he just showed up in my inbox and he's like, hey,

724
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 6: do you still want to do that show that we

725
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 6: were working on? And I said, well, if you and

726
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 6: Mike are involved, like, yeah, I definitely want to do it.

727
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 6: Because everybody kept telling me like how horrible Hollywood was,

728
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 6: and then I got to work with those two guys

729
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: and they're like the nicest, most sincere, most like collaborative people.

730
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 6: So I said, yeah, if y'all want to do it,

731
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: I want to do it. And he said, okay, cool,

732
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to try to work on it.

733
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 6: And then shortly thereafter they're like, all right, we're gonna

734
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: do a mini room ten weeks. We're gonna work on it.

735
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Speaker 6: We're gonna hire nine writers, we're gonna write four scripts

736
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Speaker 6: in a show bible, and we're going to turn it

737
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: in to this place called IMDbTV, which is Amazon Like

738
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 6: if you go on Amazon Prime, that's where it is. Yeah,

739
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 6: it's just Amazon Prime, but it has commercials in it

740
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 6: or something. And I was like, yeah, that sounds great.

741
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Speaker 3: So we did that.

742
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: We worked on it for the ten weeks.

743
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: We hired our nine writers, and then we turned in

744
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Speaker 6: those four scripts to the to the bosses, and then

745
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Speaker 6: we waited, and then you know, we waited like a

746
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: month or so, and then finally I.

747
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: Got a phone. I got an email.

748
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 6: My sons and I were at this anime tokyo shop

749
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: in San Antonio because they're super in anime. So we're

750
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 6: down there, We're we're looking at fucking naw Ruto and

751
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 6: Hunter Hunter and whatever, all of the ship One Man,

752
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 6: Dragon ball Z. Were just like shopping and I get

753
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 6: an email and it says, hey, can you be on

754
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 6: the phone in like twenty minutes because the network wants

755
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 6: to talk. And this was at seven forty five at night,

756
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: and I was like, well, there's no way this is

757
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 6: good news, because they're just like this is what you

758
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: said a meeting early on in the day, in the

759
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: in the week for like good news, and then late

760
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: in the weekend, late in the day for bad news.

761
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, cool, and I like

762
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: got all prepared to be devastated, and then I got

763
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 6: on the phone and they were like, hey, great news.

764
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 6: We're gonna make this show, and I fucking lost my mind.

765
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: I could.

766
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 6: I was like going crazy. They're like, we're actually gonna

767
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 6: like make it, like we're gonna shoot it. We're gonna hi,

768
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 6: We're going to cast actors and make the thing. And

769
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: they were like yes, ro I said, let's fucking go.

770
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Speaker 3: This is.

771
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 4: And all that's what we're doing.

772
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: What's what's the premise if you don't mind sharing or

773
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: if you keep you shit under wraps like at that too, but.

774
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 6: No, the so the premise is the show is called

775
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 6: Primo and it's about a high school junior. He's the

776
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: first one in his family who has like the chance

777
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: to graduate high school. Like that's the That's how the

778
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: pilot starts with him just finding this news out, Hey

779
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: you got a chance here.

780
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: He lives with his mom. His dad is out of

781
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 4: the picture.

782
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 6: He lives his mom. She didn't she didn't graduate. His

783
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 6: dad didn't graduate. But the mom has five brothers, these

784
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: five uncles who have been like surrogate father figures to

785
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: this kid since he was born, and each one of

786
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 6: them has a different kind of personality and so they

787
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 6: all like have ideas about what his life should look

788
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 6: like as he grows into adulthood, and so now he's

789
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 6: trying to figure out how to like what do I

790
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 6: do about college?

791
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: What do I do about this girl that I like?

792
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: Well?

793
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: And all of the uncles are like all giving him

794
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 6: advice from these different It's like if you were driving

795
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 6: and five other guys are like trying to grab the

796
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 6: steering wheel and get you.

797
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And that's the and that's

798
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: that's the show. There you go.

799
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: I can't fucking wait to watch that ship.

800
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be so it's

801
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: going to be really really good. Listen.

802
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 6: So what I did this is like my strategy anytime

803
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 6: I work on a thing, I'm like, well, let me

804
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 6: just let me get some people who are smarter and

805
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: more talented than I am, and then just get the

806
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 6: fuck out of the way. So we when we were

807
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 6: hiring the writers, I was just looking for people who

808
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 6: were smarter and funnier than me. And then we got

809
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 6: in the room and you're all just pitching jokes and

810
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 6: ideas and writing scripts, and I was like, let me

811
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: just stand in the back and like not mess this up.

812
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, let me, let me, let me,

813
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 6: let me be, Let me be James Jones on the

814
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: Miami Heat. Let me like, They'll go do all the

815
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 6: work and then I'll come in and hit like two

816
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 6: shots and I get a championship. Or Yeah, I'm a

817
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 6: glue guy. But this has been my my like ethos

818
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: for my entire life. I never wanted to ever be

819
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 6: like the star of the team. I just wanted to

820
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 6: be on the back of the bus after the game,

821
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 6: on the way back home, like making jokes with everybody.

822
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: That's that's my role. That's my role on the team.

823
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: You have designs your life, you know what I mean.

824
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what that's that's my that's where I'm aiming

825
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 6: always for sure.

826
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: So you know, a big part of Your and Other

827
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: Things trilogy, of course, it's the illustration. You know, our

828
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Cheral Torres is fucking amazing. You know, I love his art.

829
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: So how did that that that partnership come about? You know,

830
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: that's the that's the pips to your bunbee, you know,

831
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: the temple into your message.

832
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, in this trilogy, that's my guy.

833
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: So so how did that partnership friendship come about?

834
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 6: So the very first book that I did the wrap

835
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 6: your book when I pitched it. Originally, this was in

836
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 6: two thousand and I pitched in twenty thirteen. I think

837
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: I told them, hey, I'm going to write everything, and

838
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 6: I'm going to draw everything because I like to draw,

839
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 6: and I had just done the coloring book, like I know,

840
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 6: I know how to do the thing. And they said, okay, cool,

841
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 6: We're going to give you a year to write the book.

842
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 6: And I said, all right, that works for me. But

843
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: when you pitch a book, like you have to already

844
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 6: write like two chapters, like sample chapters. And when I

845
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: did those, those took me two days to do because

846
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 6: I had already I just about songs that I knew,

847
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 6: songs I had already researched and written about previously. So

848
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 6: it took me two days to write those chapters. And

849
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 6: they're like, all right, well we need you know, we're

850
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 6: going to give you a year. I was like, I

851
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: don't know fucking need a year. I need like three weeks.

852
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 6: So I didn't do any work at all for like

853
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 6: eight months, nine months, ten months, I didn't even start it.

854
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 6: And then the you know, nine months come around and

855
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 6: I sit down to write the DMX chapter and then

856
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 6: It ended up taking me like a week because I

857
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 6: had to read his biography, his autobiography, I had to

858
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 6: watch all the documentaries. Suddenly I was like in book

859
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 6: research mode. I'd never done it before, and I'm like, well, fuck,

860
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 6: there's no way that I can write this and illustrate it.

861
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 6: So I had to find an illustrator. I was looking

862
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 6: everywhere I could on the internet, and I just so

863
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 6: happened to come across a flyer that this group out

864
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 6: of Dallas called the Outfit, Texas very great rap group.

865
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: They had put a flyer out for a show and

866
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 6: it had some art on there. And when I saw

867
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 6: the art, I was like, oh, yeah, this is exactly

868
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: like what I'm looking for. Or who is this person?

869
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: There's no name on the flyer, So I hit up them.

870
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: I asked them, Hey, who did this? They said, oh,

871
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 6: you don't know. Ask the manager. I hit up the manager.

872
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 6: I said, hey, who did this? She was like, oh,

873
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 6: it's this guy named Artudo Torres in Dallas, Texas. And

874
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 6: I was like when I heard the name, I was like,

875
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 6: that's a fucking Mexican. Asked name right there, that's a Mexican.

876
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: I know it, I know it.

877
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 6: I know it seventeen ar tudo torres is and so

878
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 6: I got she connected me to him. I got him

879
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 6: on the phone. I said, hey, this is what I

880
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 6: want to do. I think you should draw these pictures

881
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 6: for me. I'm to give you a little bit of

882
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 6: money and then we're going to go make a book.

883
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: And it took me a while to talk him into it,

884
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: but after a bit he was like, all right, cool,

885
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 6: let's give it a shot. Because he was at the

886
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 6: very very start of his career too. He was like

887
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 6: still working at urban outfitters. He was doing flyers on

888
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 6: the side, just for a little bit of extra money.

889
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 6: He was not like an official artist. This was the

890
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: first big thing he did. It was the first big

891
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 6: thing I did. But that's how it started. And then

892
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: you know, when it was time to do another book,

893
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 6: he was the first call I make, and he just

894
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 6: kept getting better and better and better. If you look

895
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: at the art and the wrap your book, he'll be

896
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: the first one to tell you it's fucking terrible. I

897
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: feel the same way about the writing. If you read it,

898
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 6: it's fucking awful. This is what we were growing together,

899
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: and now he's one of the best artists in the country.

900
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 6: He's doing like gigantic basketball court sized murals for Nike.

901
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 6: He's like all over the world. He's drawn for Google,

902
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 6: like every big place you could think of. He's fucking

903
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: running shit now. It's been great to watch. I can't

904
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 6: wait to have the conversation where I can't afford him anymore,

905
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 6: because it's coming. It's gonna be. It's gonna get there eventually.

906
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 6: We're not there yet, but we'll get there.

907
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: I just I love the fire story.

908
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: It's like a band in the nineties looking for a

909
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: drummer or something, you know what I mean. Like that

910
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: might be the last business connection made be a physical

911
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: paper in the history of the country.

912
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: Like that might.

913
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 4: It's great. He has a copy of it too, somewhere still.

914
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: He saved it. It's awesome when you look at it.

915
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have our tural piece. That's a piece

916
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: right there. That's our troll piece, you know what I mean.

917
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, very talented.

918
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: You posted a picture of like.

919
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: Him and Buster like Buster rhymes pushing Michael Myers, and

920
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, this makes no sense, but of course it

921
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 5: makes sense with them too, you know, y'all do such

922
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: a such a fire ass collaboration.

923
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

924
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I really like about about him.

925
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 6: He's such a like a movie nerd, a comic book

926
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 6: nerd that he just is always trying to do some

927
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 6: weird ship and it fits with the stuff that I'm writing, right,

928
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 6: you know, we'll do this.

929
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that. I got a question about the Spurs,

930
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: all right.

931
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Great last night last night, I want to.

932
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 5: Say this man, bron So Pop is basically running the

933
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: Spurs organization, you know what I mean?

934
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

935
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: And you guys, Steak, is it finally time? Is it

936
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: finally time?

937
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: Like?

938
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Well, Pop, so you know, give up the rains a

939
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: little bit. What we're thinking as.

940
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: I think the guy who won you five championships, you

941
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 6: trust him until he says I don't want to be

942
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: trusted anymore.

943
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: That's all that. It is the roster that we have now.

944
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 6: This is not a roster that you put together to

945
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 6: go make it to the second or third round of

946
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 6: the playoffs. This is a roster you put together so

947
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 6: that in three years you're contending again for seven years straight. Like,

948
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 6: that's what's happening. That's what's happening right now. He's I

949
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: feel like, do I watch Succession?

950
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tapped in this week.

951
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 6: Actually, Okay, So always in the beginning of the season,

952
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 6: they spend like the first two or three episodes setting

953
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 6: up all of the pieces, and then they pay it

954
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: all off that like the last few it's like a

955
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 6: fucking sprint. It's incredible. That's how the first season worked,

956
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 6: the second season work. That's how this one is working too.

957
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 6: I think the same thing is happening here with the Spurs.

958
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: Papa is setting everything up so that when he's like,

959
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 6: all right, I'm done, here comes whoever he brings in

960
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 6: to be the new head coach.

961
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: We're set up.

962
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 6: We're set up, hopefully, Becky, we're set up for the

963
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 6: next ten years or whatever.

964
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: It's going to be great. You'll see, You'll.

965
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: See very positive. I love it, man, I love it.

966
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: I love it too.

967
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: It's well, that's a that's another question you had, was it,

968
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: Shae serround on night? What did you do with the Spurs?

969
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: I know, I just went to a game, man, I

970
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: just went to a game.

971
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: I just went to a game and took a picture.

972
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: They gave out, Well, didn't they have you filmed something too?

973
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they asked me to do the like beginning

974
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: of the season, sort of hype up video that they

975
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: play to start everything off and then it's on it's

976
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 6: like a commercial in the city or whatever for a while.

977
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 6: So I got to be the voiceover for that, which

978
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: was really neat, and so that's what that's what it was.

979
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 6: They did that for the first game of the season.

980
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 6: They played that at the start, and then I went

981
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 6: to the second game when they played the Bucks, or

982
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: maybe it was a third game. I don't quite remember,

983
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 6: but I wanted to go see Yannis and I was like, hey,

984
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: let's you know, I want to take the It's just

985
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: fun to go with your family to the basketball game.

986
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 6: My kids are super into basketball right now as well,

987
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 6: which is great. My sister's kids, the nieces, one of

988
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 6: them plays basketball as well. She was really into it.

989
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: We fucking met Arci Beauford. Here's how much of a

990
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 6: basketball nerd she already is. She's only like eleven, ten

991
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 6: or eleven, No, she's ten. She knew who Arci Buford

992
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 6: was when he came in. Laramie didn't. Laramie didn't know,

993
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 6: My sister didn't know. I knew, my dad knew, and

994
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 6: my fucking niece, my niece, Jada.

995
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I cannot pick that dude out about. He's a guy

996
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: who I know who he is by his name, but

997
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea what.

998
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: He looks like.

999
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I know what it looks like.

1000
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 6: And he walked in and I was like, holy fucking shit,

1001
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 6: what up, Arci Buford, This is trading.

1002
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: I just have to imagine though, that for for a

1003
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: dude like you, who's like a.

1004
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Regular person in a good way, that like the Spurs

1005
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: asking you to do a voiceover has to be cooler for.

1006
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: You than the New York Times bestseller list, right, it's.

1007
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 4: Like one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

1008
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 6: Well, I would have traded all I trade it all

1009
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 6: in just to be up on the jumbo tron one time.

1010
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 6: The Spurs do the San Antonio is a very Latino

1011
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 6: town and so, like you know, you'd go to different arenas.

1012
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 6: They have different like they have the Kiss Cam. They

1013
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 6: have the Lion King baby cam, which is one of

1014
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 6: my favorite ones where you hold the baby up while

1015
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 6: they play the theme song from The Lion King. But

1016
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 6: the Spurs have Kumbia camp. Kumbia is like a dance

1017
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 6: that you do, like this Mexican dance is fucking great.

1018
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 6: And that's when I got to be up on the

1019
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 6: jumbo Tron and it was the best thing that ever

1020
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: happened in my life, Like the number one thing.

1021
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I think that's the time we've got Shaye.

1022
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hopping on, man, we really

1023
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Everyone go get hip hop and other things

1024
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: you have until Saturday or Jenkins and Jones is coming

1025
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: to your house to fight you. Uh, we're sending the

1026
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: AOT trilogy off with another New York Times bestseller, so

1027
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: go get it now, Shaby hopping on all right? Our

1028
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: thanks to Shae for hopping on with us. Always great

1029
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: when when he stops by and uh, what how crazy

1030
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: to drop a book in a fucking TV development you

1031
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: know TV green Light deal on back to back days.

1032
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: That's the fucking biggest testicle drop.

1033
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: I can imagine what a week good to see good

1034
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: things happening to good people. Man, Yes, for sure.

1035
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: S you remember that fucking name of that kid waking

1036
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: up looking surprise and they're like, all your surprise, you're Beyonce.

1037
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Shot is Beyonce? Shout?

1038
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 5: I think like this is him, that's him when he

1039
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: wakes up like, oh shit, I'm Shay. Every morning like

1040
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: shock my own ship that you know, I'm the nigga.

1041
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: They talking about you feel me and good for him?

1042
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I love that nigga.

1043
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. Okay, So definitely go get Shay's book.

1044
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: One last plug for that and we will see you

1045
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: on Monday or Sunday night, depending on how.

1046
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: It all goes.

1047
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: Bye bye, post buy. I love this. Someone tweeted at

1048
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: us that they say bye with us and then they

1049
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: go right back to working. It's like.

1050
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: The best people that fuck with us. G. They're funniest

1051
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: fun you know what I mean, the coolest hell.

1052
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: All right, so what this is your second bite to

1053
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: brighten your work day up? Bye bye