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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and this is the start of hour number two of

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Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt our DFS. Lineup. Well,

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Speaker 1: pretty much, kick Butt.

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Speaker 2: Did pretty well. Eh, we did pretty well.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty two point four eight points last week.

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Speaker 1: Everybody did pretty well except for the Bill's defense.

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Speaker 2: Actually, okay, I remember I texted you early in the

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Speaker 2: Niners game, going McCaffrey doesn't look like himself. That's going

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Speaker 2: to kill us because we put so much invested in him.

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Speaker 1: But like the whole world, eighty seven percent of the

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Speaker 1: contest that we were in had Kris Christian McCaffrey in

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Speaker 1: her lineup.

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Speaker 2: He was the most expensive guy on the whole slate, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm shocked that much of the of the

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Speaker 2: world jumped that far in on him.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight hundred dollars he cost us. He got us

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Speaker 1: thirty one point eight points. Okay too, right, But that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have hurt us one way or the other, because everybody.

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Speaker 2: Has say to just put a line through him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you look at our less Chalky pick.

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Speaker 1: So we had Jared Goff at quarterback and he was

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Speaker 1: only owned in twenty point seven percent of leagues. Now

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Speaker 1: remember there, you know where there were only eight teams

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Speaker 1: to pick from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eight quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Ye right, I think Lamar ended up being pretty chalky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of chocolate

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Speaker 2: some of those positions. Yeah, but we got.

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Speaker 1: We got twenty point eight points out of at a

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Speaker 1: golf at sixty three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: And the top guys were expensive, expensively Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We had Rashad White. This is where we really hit

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Speaker 1: and did well. Rashad White was on the owned in

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Speaker 1: six point one percent. Surprises, it's really low for it,

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Speaker 1: very because there weren't that many starting running backs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's an every down guy that catches a

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Speaker 2: lot of passes.

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Speaker 1: He kept coming in and out of that game like

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Speaker 1: the entire time.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't one hundred percent either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but at sixty five hundred dollars he got us

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Speaker 1: nineteen point one points.

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Speaker 2: He does it every week too. I mean, if they're winning,

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Speaker 2: he's carrying the ball. If he's not, he's catching the ball.

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Speaker 2: And he's always catching the ball.

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Speaker 1: See the first run fantasy pick next year.

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Speaker 2: I'd say he's right around the turn in that neighborhood. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a couple I take, like, would you

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Speaker 2: take him or Gibbs. I think I take Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd take Gibbs. But that's a I think

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Speaker 1: they're I think they're both in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's neighborhood. He's definitely going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McCaffrey. We mentioned Khalil Shakir Oh that was going

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Speaker 1: forty five point two percent ownership. Davis was he was

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Speaker 1: shocky at thirty eight hundred dollars. We get seventeen point

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Speaker 2: We still got a lot for our money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't over the fifty percent threshold, which

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Speaker 1: again when we're in a when you're in a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty league like this, that means, yeah, fifty percent

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Speaker 1: is a big deal because any you know, anybody that's

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Speaker 1: over that probably not going to hurt you that much

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Speaker 1: one way or the other. Anybody that's under that can

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Speaker 1: if they don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but half your competition owns them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh. Aman Ross Saint Brown was pretty chalky. At

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Speaker 1: eighty two hundred bucks, sixty one point seven percent ownership,

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Speaker 1: he got us twenty consistent. Yeah, twenty one points seven

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Speaker 2: We're happy with it. Yeah, I wish maybe owned him,

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Speaker 2: but that's all right. Josh Reynolds, that was a nice call.

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Speaker 2: Fifty eight point nine percent ownership. How about that at

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Speaker 2: thirty seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: Dollars, So both of our low our paydowns at wide

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Speaker 1: receiver were highly owned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like most weeks, if we had to hit on

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Speaker 2: somebody at that price, orld have paid off more. This

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Speaker 2: was as much to pick from.

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Speaker 1: Reynolds got his ten point seven points. He scored a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: He had scored two catches for twenty seven yards. But

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Speaker 1: ten point seven points for a thirty seven hundred dollars player, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll take it. Plus he was chalky, so it doesn't

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Speaker 2: We did more of this last year, but I think

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Speaker 2: there's money to be made in dfs from like those

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Speaker 2: three thousand to four thousand dollars wide outs. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they don't kill you if they don't score, but if

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Speaker 2: they score huge and they usually catch two or three

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Speaker 2: pass Yeah, you know, Kate Aughton, he scored.

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Speaker 1: Joe thirty three point four percent ownership at thirty five

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Speaker 2: I remember regretting because we were I forget the back

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Speaker 2: we were going to take or the flex we were

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Speaker 2: in Auton, and we pulled Likely out for Auton and

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Speaker 2: Likely scored the day before. I'm like, god, that'd have

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Speaker 1: And there have a lot of catches though.

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Speaker 2: A ton No. Yeah, they didn't throw the ball ton either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean Autumn actually ended up being the

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Speaker 1: better start, especially for the price. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: James Cook wasn't great for us, but he did catch

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Speaker 1: four passes. He had he was only ten point eight

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Speaker 2: Okay, not bad, not that it's probably our worst start

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Speaker 1: And then you had the Bill's defense at two got

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Speaker 2: Did any of the defenses do great? Though?

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Speaker 1: Well? Who am I thinking of? Green Bay's defense scored?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was trying to think what kind of

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Speaker 1: He well, you know, they didn't score, but they Houston scored.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, green Bay held San Frando reasonably.

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Speaker 1: Low Mount got some sacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, stuff. I don't think any of the defense

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Speaker 2: is like light him up. Yeah, like Houston score, but

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Speaker 2: then allowed a ton of points in the second half.

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Speaker 1: So we finished with one hundred and fifty two point

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Speaker 1: four eight points. The team that won the contest that

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Speaker 2: Point two sixt different.

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Speaker 1: They had Baker Mayfield at quarterback, six thousand dollars cheap, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight point four to six points. He was thirty

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Speaker 2: McCaffrey makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary thirty four point three percent ownership got him

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Speaker 1: twelve points. Not much different than what either one of

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Speaker 1: a cook cooker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the military score because they didn't run at all.

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Speaker 1: He had he had five catches, uh catch forty eight

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Speaker 1: He had a mon Ross Saint Brown.

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Speaker 2: Pretty similar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they started Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: He had a hard time catching the ball early on,

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Speaker 2: then sort of lightning. He was seventy two hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: So he had the Baker Aughton Evans. Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: Then he had the Josh Reynolds, So I get we

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Speaker 2: They got eight because of the scored. Okay, yeah, was

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Speaker 1: No, not a ton of difference. There's just a couple

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Speaker 1: we did Evans in the lineup, which we talked about about.

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Speaker 2: So he didn't have Saint Brown though.

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Speaker 1: Did not have Saint Brown because he went with Singletary

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Speaker 1: and Baker. Mayfield saved him some money.

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Speaker 2: There too, So Mayfield ended up being a better start

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Speaker 2: than Golf. Yeah for the price, Yeah, which understandable. I

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Speaker 1: I mean they were behind and throwing the entire They

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Speaker 1: couldn't run.

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Speaker 2: The ball at all. No, Detroit's pass defense worries me.

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Speaker 2: The run defense is really good. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 2: either though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so not too far off. The team

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Speaker 1: to finished second had lamar in the line of Lamar

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Speaker 2: He had one hundred yards rush.

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Speaker 1: I think he had thirty nine point oh eight points,

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Speaker 1: but you had to pay seventy nine hundred dollars to

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Speaker 2: See the best quarterback start, I believe, so probably I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Yeah, yeah, the baker wasn't bad to have

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Speaker 1: if if who wasn't. We were questioning if he was

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Speaker 1: We talked about pivoting to Pacheco. We had eighteen point

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Speaker 2: I forget who we thought there was question.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember which one.

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Speaker 2: The three backs we had were Cook.

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Speaker 1: So, uh then McCaffrey, Mike Evans, Josh Reynolds, Jayden Reid.

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Speaker 1: I only got eight point five points. So Kate Ought

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Speaker 1: and Khalils Shakir in the Ravens defense, which had so

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Speaker 1: we hit the right guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody thinks so sneaky. Yeah, No, we didn't do

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Speaker 1: No, I actually also played that lineup in a regular

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Speaker 1: money contest and finished in the money with that with

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Speaker 2: And that's those contests just have a ton of people

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Speaker 2: in him and if you get over X amount of points,

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Speaker 2: you get paid off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I actually ended up finishing in sixteenth place.

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Speaker 1: So I made I think I think it was a

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Speaker 1: two dollars contest and I made.

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Speaker 2: Twelve nice six spender. Yeah, what the heck?

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Speaker 1: The top prize was fifty bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, just fun throwing it out there.

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Speaker 1: Because I thought we had a good lineup' ye. I

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Speaker 1: was right. The lineup that won that one had one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three point twenty six points. They had Baker,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Devin Singletary, Amon Ross, Saint Brown, Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, Kot and Khalilshak and the Bills defense. The

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Speaker 1: only difference, the only different Evans is Mayfield and Evans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that connection.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, it was our lineup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had Golf and they had Saint Brown too, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so who was our receiver?

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Speaker 1: We had Golf and the Josh Reynolds, No, Josh Reynolds,

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Speaker 1: who's our other receiver.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was a flex It was a flex play,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was. We had White, they didn't have White.

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Speaker 2: We'd cook they did have cooked, and GoF and Evans.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wait, You're not that much of a star.

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Speaker 1: And people have said, well, yeah, they need to have

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Speaker 2: Everybody would cheat.

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Speaker 2: Because as soon as that day happens at midnight, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Belichick signed it twelve oh one to the Falcons. Boy,

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Speaker 2: they got that done quick. Yeah, yeah, that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: That's how it would go because I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the best way to do it. I don't know either, but.

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Speaker 2: I hate it's not perfect, you know, I hate that.

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Speaker 1: Part of it. There's also you know, people who are

445
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Speaker 1: saying the Steelers need to hire a young guy. M hm, A,

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Speaker 1: you have the growing pains with the young guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but b if he's good, he's not gonna stick around.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to stick around.

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Speaker 2: See. That's one of the only problems with having a

450
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Speaker 2: defensive coach like Andy Reid's never gonna lose his offensive coordinator, right,

451
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Speaker 2: but Tomlin's your coach. If you fire, if you hire

452
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Speaker 2: a whiz kid, you're not going to keep them long.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The Titans are a great example. He hired Lafleur, who

455
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Speaker 2: then became the head coach in Green Bay. Then he

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Speaker 2: hires Smith, who becomes a head coach in Atlanta. Can

457
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Speaker 2: you hit three in a row? Right? Yeah?

458
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Speaker 1: That makes it tough.

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Speaker 2: That's really hard. Can you hit three in a row

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Speaker 2: as a coach and hiring offenseve coordinators, It's tough. What

461
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Speaker 2: would you think of Arthur Smith here as a coordinator?

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he is.

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Speaker 2: It might be what he is. I don't know him

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. But they ran the crap out of

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 2: Right and he got Tannehill. Yeah you know that are

469
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Speaker 2: I mean? Tannehill was a nobody when he got there.

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Speaker 2: He was a bust from Miami.

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Speaker 1: They got him for fifth They couldn't wait to get

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Speaker 1: rid of.

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Speaker 2: Get him out of here, and he turned into a

474
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Speaker 2: really serviceable player. What my reservation with him? And one

475
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Speaker 2: reason I hate talking about assistant coaches because I don't

476
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Speaker 2: know their personalities. His father founded fed X. Yes, he's

477
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Speaker 2: one of the wealthiest human beings on the planet. He

478
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Speaker 2: didn't grow up biting and scratching as Akron's running back coach.

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Speaker 2: If he didn't want to, or if he did, he

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Speaker 2: still lived in a mansion with a Ferrari. You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. He might be the salt of the earth.

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Speaker 2: He just didn't grow up like everybody else, good or bad.

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Speaker 1: Good or bad. Yeah, I mean, obviously he's put the

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Speaker 1: work in.

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Speaker 2: I mean his dad's logan, Roy. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. Like he he's definitely what to work and

487
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Speaker 2: he seems super smart and he seems good at his job.

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Speaker 2: But he had a different upbringing everybody else. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just need to know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean these are some of the names.

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Speaker 1: They are going to be bandied about, and some like

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Speaker 1: there's there are certain offenses that I would I would

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Speaker 1: look at. I quite frankly, would be interested in Houston's offense.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But that's a young There's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk about him going to be the Tennessee head guy.

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Speaker 2: He didn't show so great though, you know, and same

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Speaker 2: with Quinn going to Seattle. Like these teams get eliminated,

498
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Speaker 2: which inevitably they all do, except for one. Chances are

499
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Speaker 2: your hot coordinator didn't have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's a one day. So Houston is exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 1: name name after name after name after name of guy's

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Speaker 1: because it could be you know, anybody. I think I

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Speaker 1: think Tomlin did give us a blueprint of what he's

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Speaker 1: looking for. Somebody who has called plays before h uh.

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Speaker 1: At the NFL level, that does narrow it down quite

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Speaker 1: a bit.

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Speaker 2: And I mentioned Laflora the Rams, I don't think he

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Speaker 2: ever has.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, right now, some of that you don't know.

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Speaker 1: For example, I know there were times in the past

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Speaker 1: where uh, for example, when when the Steelers had Todd Haley, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Randy Fekner, they would let Fekner call

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Speaker 1: some plays in preseason games.

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Speaker 2: Whole game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you get this is this third preseason game, that's you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Does McVeigh need to call preseason games?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, does shanahan na to whoever his right

521
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Speaker 2: hand man is probably gets that job. McDaniel do it

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Speaker 2: in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Because you never know what's going to happen. What if

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Speaker 1: you know, what if that guy gets sick, what if

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Speaker 1: he's in a car accident.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, COVID COVID years, coaches weren't there for a week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody somebody else better be able to do it

528
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Speaker 1: on your staff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fancy wasn't there for a playoff game because

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Speaker 2: of COVID, right, right.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting. We'll continue to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: But codes goodwill within your staff, absolutely, Yeah, I did

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Speaker 2: it in preseason game the last three years. Okay, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're going to get to another break.

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Speaker 1: And I'm at the Senior Bowl coming up. Yeah next week,

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Speaker 1: next week, you'll be there. I will be uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll be well, I'll be actually be in Mobile at

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Speaker 1: this point next week. And well, the Steelers will have

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Speaker 1: at least one coach on the sidelines for that game.

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Speaker 1: Is assistant offensive line coach Isaac Williams will be coaching

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Speaker 1: the American team offensive line.

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Speaker 2: So real quick, it's now American and National. It's not

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Speaker 2: North South anymore. Yeah, does it matter if you're in

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Speaker 2: the north or South.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it does.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they think they just build teams. Now yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: not that that matters, but boy, I think that's a

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Speaker 2: mass of advantage, maybe more so at that position than

559
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Speaker 2: any Yeah, you really wanted to get in their heads.

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Speaker 2: I think so much of offensive line play is about toughness, smartness,

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Speaker 2: you know, ability to take it from the whiteboard to

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Speaker 2: the field, learn on the fly. And he's going to

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Speaker 2: have his hands on those guys directly, directly, huge advantage.

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Speaker 1: Seeing who can handle what Hey, this guy pick up.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna watch all the one on ones directly. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna set the one on ones up that you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly to see try to play this power nose

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Speaker 2: and then here's a three technique you gotta deal with

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Speaker 2: or super speed edge rusher and the other thing of

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Speaker 2: these Seener Bowl guys, small school kids, it's so poor

571
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Speaker 2: for too. You know that you're gonna get really get

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Speaker 2: your hands on them as opposed them this mashing you know,

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Speaker 2: future non football players.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is the great thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It used to be at the Senior Bowl until last

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Speaker 1: year they would have just one coaching staff from from

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Speaker 1: two teams that were eliminated early.

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Speaker 2: They are bad, bad teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the bad teams, and they got they got

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Speaker 1: the first hand look with their entire staf. Now they've

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Speaker 1: split this up, so they take guys from staffs all

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Speaker 1: over the league, and you give guys, you know, Isaac Williams,

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Speaker 1: an assistant offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Coach, I'd say it's good for the coaches because they

586
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Speaker 2: don't give it to the enemy when he.

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Speaker 1: Was, Yeah, you don't have you don't have eight coordinators

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Speaker 1: out there running around doing this stuff. It's it's guys

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Speaker 1: who are up and coming coaches or younger coaches. Gives

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Speaker 1: them an opportunity to show that they can do the job,

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Speaker 1: and and and and b again, you're giving more teams

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to be in rooms with these guys and

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Speaker 1: and find out more about them.

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Speaker 2: They also give it to the minorities coaches quite a

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Speaker 2: bit too, to kind of help move that along even better,

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Speaker 2: which is a great opportunity there. And it's just more

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Speaker 2: exposure for the coaches, more exposure for the teams that

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Speaker 2: volunteer for them. And it seems like the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: always like, take one of ours, take one of our,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we know Tomlin's always heavily and.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing he won't be the only Steelers assistant coach.

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Speaker 2: They're still work that stuff out. Yeah, it's amazing. We

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Speaker 2: had this conversation off the air. The Senior Bowl might

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Speaker 2: be the most fluid event of the entire Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Like finding out the rosters changes like eight every day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those guys have to be on a plane

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Speaker 2: in like four days or five days and get weighed in,

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Speaker 2: and you know that guys have injuries, they got stuff

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Speaker 2: that's going you know, sometime just declared a little bit

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Speaker 2: ago or Hey, I'm gonna maybe I'm gonna go to

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Speaker 2: the Shrine game. I'm going to go to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I have to wait for an invite or it changes

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Speaker 2: all the time, and then someone gets hurts on Monday

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Speaker 2: or Tuesday and you gotta go find another time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and steal them off the you know.

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Speaker 1: I know Jim Nagy that that runs the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: does a good job that. Like Kevin Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: ten guys on on call here and no even pool guys.

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Speaker 1: He just played in the Shrine Bowl. We know he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring him over.

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Speaker 2: He looks good. Grab him, yeah, grab him, let him

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Speaker 2: come play here too, or boy. It's also useful that

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Speaker 2: Alabama has some close they're close, yeah exactly. That area

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Speaker 2: of the country has got a lot of talent, not

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Speaker 2: like got to get a guy from Maine to come

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Speaker 2: down here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing about it this year, Matt, is

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Speaker 1: that they're actually they call it's called the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: This year, under class underclassmen are going to be allowed

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Speaker 1: to play in the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I think the rule was before this, if you had

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Speaker 2: a degree, you qualify, Yes, well you might still have

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Speaker 2: eligibility or come out as a quote junior.

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Speaker 1: Now, now, if you've if you've applied for it, the

635
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Speaker 1: date or deadline to apply was January fifteenth. If you've

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Speaker 1: applied for the draft, I think there were forty five

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Speaker 1: guys who applied for and received the okay to the

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Speaker 1: end or the draft. Now, if you've been you've been

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Speaker 1: in college for three years, so you're ready. You just

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Speaker 1: finished your red shirt sophomore season or a true junior.

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Speaker 2: Three years from your high school graduation. Yeah, now you're

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Speaker 2: the first one had to fight that. Yeah, yeah, now

643
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Speaker 2: you're you're you're okay. To go play in the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is great, Which is great. It just opens the

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Speaker 2: field up because a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of those guys are that forty five guys that

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Speaker 1: you know declared. A lot of them are first round

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Speaker 1: draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, a lot of the most talented dudes. And

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Speaker 2: things got weird the last couple of years too, because

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Speaker 2: the supersedi.

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Speaker 1: Did you see did you see the guy? The tight

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Speaker 1: end from Miami and I can't think of his name.

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Speaker 2: He's draft eligible this year.

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Speaker 1: He just applied for and got a ninth season of

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Speaker 1: college football.

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Speaker 2: So he must had like two major injuries, a COVID year.

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Speaker 1: A couple of COVID Yeah. Wow, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's been twenty six years old. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean maybe older. I mean graduate high schools, a seventeen

661
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Speaker 2: or eighteen year old and this is season nine. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. I mean, I heard of

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Speaker 2: a seven. I think it was nine years that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's something unusual like that though. Yeah, it

666
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: was the Senior Bowl. Good for Naggy because I.

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Speaker 1: Kind of always thought, yea, it was nine years.

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Speaker 2: That's insane.

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00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: Cam McCormick. Nine years. That's more time in college than

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Speaker 1: you spent.

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Speaker 2: Right, I got a lot more. I could even go

672
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Speaker 2: to master's in nine years. Maybe he could.

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Speaker 1: Be a doctor. He has tenure on campus, not Miami.

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Speaker 1: He spent the entire time at Miami. I believe he

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Speaker 1: has tenure on that camp. Like, they can't fire him.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you call people to go

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Speaker 1: to college for nine years? They had doctors?

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Speaker 2: Did they explain how it happened?

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Speaker 1: It had to be he'd be well, No, he didn't

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00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: spend the entire time at Miami. So he began his

681
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: career at Oregon in twenty sixteen. Twenty sixteen. Wow, Okay

682
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: missed significant parts of four different seasons due to injuries, which,

683
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Speaker 1: along with his red shirt year in the COVID year

684
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, allowed him to petition the NCAA for

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented ninth season of eligibility.

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Speaker 2: I thought that would be impossible. I mean, six used

687
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: to be insane, and it we'll be soon. We'll get

688
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: back to None of these guys have been COVID. That's insane,

689
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: that's bonkers.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Now he is only twenty five, So he must

691
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: have been young when he went to school when he

692
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: was a three star prospect coming out of Bend, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Part of the listen to this, I say, some of

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Speaker 1: those guys in early he was part of the twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen signing class at Oregon which included Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he's now in a second contract.

697
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Speaker 1: The national class that included Nick Bosa, at, Oliver Rashawan,

698
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Speaker 1: Jabershawn Gary, and Jalen Hurts.

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00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: These guys have been legal a long time. Some of

700
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl rings and second contracts and wow, that's insane.

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Speaker 2: The Senior Bowls gonna be awesome, though I can't believe

702
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Speaker 2: it took them this long to open it up.

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Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna about the best draft ros.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna be keeping an eye on a lot

706
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: of different players down there, and uh, they got some

707
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: they get top level guys. But again to your point,

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Speaker 1: like I went through the list today and picked out

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Speaker 1: some guys. I was kind of putting together a notebook

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Speaker 1: that I'm writing for the first day when I when

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Speaker 1: I go down for Steelers dot Com. Here the top guys.

712
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Speaker 1: But you look on different sites and things, and you

713
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: can't find who's going to be there, and the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl knows this.

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Speaker 2: Even on the Senior Bowl site.

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Speaker 1: I think the Senior Bowl site you can't even find

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00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: the rosters yet really.

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Speaker 2: And it changes that much. And it's January twenty second

719
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Speaker 2: and on the twenty ninth they're going to be practicing

720
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: or at least doing weigh in. That's so nuts. So

721
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: there's I should know the name off the top of

722
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: my head though, But the Steelers assistant offensive line coach

723
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: will be coaching the Oklahoma kid. That's yeah, tell you

724
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: he'll have geyon Gen Okay, yeah, I mean, so he's

725
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: supposedly a phenomenal athlete that's a work in progress, needs coach.

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00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: Just keep in mind. Yeah, I mean he might be

727
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: there at twenty and maybe he's the pick or maybe

728
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: he's gone or but he's probably gonna go in the

729
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Speaker 2: first round.

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Speaker 1: Well, they took the one guy they took last year,

731
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Speaker 1: that was it the Senior Bowl was kean U Benton.

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00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: Benton really stood out at those practices down there last

733
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Speaker 1: year going into the going into the that that week,

734
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Speaker 1: he was on teams radar's radar. But he looked at

735
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: it more of a you know, third or fourth round

736
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Speaker 1: draft pick, and some.

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Speaker 2: People don't want nos ish people, right, Yeah.

738
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Speaker 1: But then he went down there and tore it up

739
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Speaker 1: and sort of yah, throwing guys out of the.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a million examples. The one that comes

741
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Speaker 2: to mind was when the Niners were terrible, Mike Singletary

742
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: was their coach and just fell in love with Patrick

743
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Willis and the Niners were the staff for Willis and like,

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Speaker 2: I have to have this, guys, it looks like me

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: You know who should be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Will it should be? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and see why

748
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Speaker 2: Signatary liked them. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, Uh, that's going to do it for the show today.

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Speaker 1: Matt uh So, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

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Speaker 1: Miller here on site keeping us on the air. I'm Dale, Allie.

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