WEBVTT - Episode 2: No Silver Linings

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<v Speaker 1>This is an I Heart original, so picture this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>early January, it's cold and wet. You're cold and wet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in London, close to the Thames, where the narrow

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<v Speaker 1>streets are filthy and prone to flooding. You decide to

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<v Speaker 1>head to a coffee house for a nice, warm dish

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee. Yes it is a dish. You approach the

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<v Speaker 1>bar and the woman behind it. A dish of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>goes for about a penny, but pennies really, all silver

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<v Speaker 1>coins are in short supply these days, so what are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to pay with? You plunge your freezing fingers

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<v Speaker 1>into your pocket. If you're a woman, this pocket is

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<v Speaker 1>a little pouch tied to your waist. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a man and your fashion forward, it's sewn into your clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be honest, you're definitely a man if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to a coffeehouse, because most ladies weren't permitted. You

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<v Speaker 1>pull out a silver penny, an old, busted, handhammered silver

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<v Speaker 1>penny made before the restoration of the monarchy, some thirty

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<v Speaker 1>odd years prior. You place your penny on the counter nervously.

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<v Speaker 1>The coffee house made eyes it suspiciously. She picks it up,

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<v Speaker 1>testing the weight in her hand. It's a little bit thin,

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<v Speaker 1>the edges look worn. From what she can tell, the

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<v Speaker 1>king on it has been dead for more than half

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<v Speaker 1>a century. Is she going to accept it? Given where

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<v Speaker 1>we are in time, there's a very good chance that

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<v Speaker 1>she won't. So why would the coffeehouse maid reject your

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<v Speaker 1>busted penny money's money? Right? Well, yes and no, because

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<v Speaker 1>right about now, that's a bigger question than you might think,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one that will dictate not only the career

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<v Speaker 1>of Isaac Newton, but also William Challoner. For I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Linda Rodriguez mcrabie and this is Newton's Law and

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Original podcast. You are making episode two, No

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Linings, Act one. For what it's worth, the coffee

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<v Speaker 1>house made might not take your coin because it's so degraded.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact was, in early most of the coins

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<v Speaker 1>being traded throughout the country were degraded. England's currency is

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<v Speaker 1>in crisis. You know that if you spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time in coffee houses, because these are places where

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<v Speaker 1>people talk, and one of the things people were definitely

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<v Speaker 1>talking about was the ongoing problems with the coinage, because

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<v Speaker 1>the terrible thing when a man cannot poaches a dish

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee for want of coin, I blame the mint.

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<v Speaker 1>Barely the thin worn coins. Shopkeepers refuse them, and one

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<v Speaker 1>can barely discern between counterfeits, and they've justly made. There

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<v Speaker 1>are rumors that Parlament men and the Treasury and the

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<v Speaker 1>men are all planning to do something about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>as yet they haven't. So while everyone holds their breath

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<v Speaker 1>and waits for whatever the government decides, the status of

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<v Speaker 1>your particular coin hangs in the balance. The coffee housemaid

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<v Speaker 1>can decide that your coin is simply too busted and

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<v Speaker 1>turn you down, but then that means she's missing out

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<v Speaker 1>on a sale, or she can accept a coin that

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<v Speaker 1>is possibly worthless, or at least worth less. So say

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<v Speaker 1>she does accept your battered coin, maybe against her better instincts,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get your dish of coffee. You settle down

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<v Speaker 1>at a table. There are a couple of newspapers and

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<v Speaker 1>gazettes and pamphlets around, and you listen to the chatter

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard. The doctor is Newton is to be

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<v Speaker 1>the warden of the mint. Indeed, I do hope you

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<v Speaker 1>should have more to do with the affairs of the

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<v Speaker 1>mint than the last warden. Okay, what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the coinage? Well, we are going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that big time because it's the reason for this whole shebang,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to first put that question on hold.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to start with another question. What actually is

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<v Speaker 1>a coin? At its most basic coin is money a

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<v Speaker 1>representative way to store value. We can exchange that value

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<v Speaker 1>for other things, goods and services. So money is a

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<v Speaker 1>medium of exchange, a way to facilitate trade or purchasing.

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<v Speaker 1>And from way back in the day, metal was ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for this representative exchange function because it was something that

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<v Speaker 1>most people agreed had inherent value, It was easily transferable,

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<v Speaker 1>it was durable, and it was easily divisible on like

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<v Speaker 1>say a cow. Metal coins date back to around six

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<v Speaker 1>b C with the Lydians people and what's now to Turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Minting started in Britain in the second century b C

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<v Speaker 1>with the various Celtic tribes, and then in a more

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<v Speaker 1>regular way with the Romans. There was a mint in

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<v Speaker 1>London dating from the third century, but then the Romans

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<v Speaker 1>left and London went through a kind of wild adolescence.

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<v Speaker 1>But By the time about For the Great, the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>century Anglo Saxon ruler who really laid the groundwork for

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<v Speaker 1>the unification of England's various sovereign states, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>working mint in the city turning out the kingdom's coins.

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<v Speaker 1>By the seventeenth century, England's monetary system was based on

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<v Speaker 1>a bi metallic standard, high denomination gold coins and lower

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<v Speaker 1>denomination silver coins, and the coins derived their value from

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<v Speaker 1>the actual weight of the gold or silver they contained.

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<v Speaker 1>A penny, for example, was worth a penny because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the value of the twenty four grains of silver

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<v Speaker 1>it contained. Because unlike today where we have coins and

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<v Speaker 1>we we just hand them over, the kinage in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties six nineties relies on its weight in silver to

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<v Speaker 1>give it its value. That's Chris Parker, historian at the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Mint. As in the same royal mint that Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>the Great started back in the ninth century and the

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<v Speaker 1>one that Newton becomes warden of in the seventeenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>and that still makes our coins now in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>first century. Anyway, value based on weight seems very logical.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem. By the sixteen nineties, many many

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<v Speaker 1>of the coins in circulation, like You're busted penny did

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<v Speaker 1>not contain the amount of silver their face value promised

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<v Speaker 1>they did. So if you had a coin that was

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<v Speaker 1>reduced in weight because it had silver removed from it,

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<v Speaker 1>it had lost some of its value, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>go to a shop and try and buy a shillings

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<v Speaker 1>worth of goods with a worn, battered, degraded shilling, the

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<v Speaker 1>shopkeeper isn't going to take that shillings value because he

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<v Speaker 1>can see it's lost weight. So as a huge problem

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<v Speaker 1>from an economic perspective that you're affecting trade. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're lucky got that coffee, But why wouldn't your penny

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<v Speaker 1>contain those twenty four grains of silver? After all? Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it the job of the Royal mint to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that it did well? Yes, but in the six nineties

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<v Speaker 1>several long simmering problems had just come to the boil.

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<v Speaker 1>First start, many of the coins were so degraded because

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of those coins were hand hammered. Hand

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<v Speaker 1>Hammering was how coins had been made for pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>as long as there had been coins. This was an

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<v Speaker 1>imprecise process. Coins were never each quite the same. The

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<v Speaker 1>engravings were often off center. The edges weren't milled, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the finish or the grooves that you

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<v Speaker 1>see on modern coins. This irregularity meant that they degraded

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<v Speaker 1>or looked degraded more easily, and some people, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people took advantage of this. The easiest and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>most damaging way people messed with the coinage was clipping.

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<v Speaker 1>People would him off a tiny amount of metal around

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the coin, then hammer the coin thinner

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<v Speaker 1>to make up the size, and then they'd gather up

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<v Speaker 1>all those tiny silver shavings, combine them and melt them

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<v Speaker 1>down into bars or ingots and sell those off. This

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<v Speaker 1>was free money, and it was easy to get away

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<v Speaker 1>with because it was difficult to tell a coin that

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<v Speaker 1>was intentionally clipped from one that was just old. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was degrading the coinage because it was in such a

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<v Speaker 1>poor state anyway, and so once you get a majority

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<v Speaker 1>of people doing it, it's it sort of takes away

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<v Speaker 1>the stigma of doing something illegal, particularly when it's being

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<v Speaker 1>done by respected banker's shopkeepers. People were just doing it

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. It sounds almost trivial, what's a

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<v Speaker 1>little off the edges, But This was a tremendous problem

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<v Speaker 1>because again it degraded the actual value of the coin

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<v Speaker 1>in your hand. Philosopher John Locke wrote, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>see how in a little while we shall have any

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<v Speaker 1>money or goods at all in England if clipping be

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<v Speaker 1>not immediately stopped. Clipping is a great leak, which for

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<v Speaker 1>some time past has contributed more to sink us than

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<v Speaker 1>all the forces of our enemies could do. Some Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and Newton included even suspected that foreign powers were trimming

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<v Speaker 1>English money just to synchronation that much faster. The terrible

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<v Speaker 1>state of the hand hammered coins also meant that they

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<v Speaker 1>were easier to counterfeit using less valuable materials. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to do a very good job. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine what you're trying to counterfeit is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>except a very very badly worn blank disc with some

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<v Speaker 1>vague images on it that's over a century old. Incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>easy because you don't have to be a very good artist,

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be a very good engraver. You

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<v Speaker 1>can knock up some incredibly substandard eyes and you can

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<v Speaker 1>put something out there that very easily resembles a batted,

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<v Speaker 1>worn shilling sixpence or half crown that was over a

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<v Speaker 1>century old. It wasn't that difficult. Counterfeiting and clipping often

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<v Speaker 1>went together. Sometimes clippers would melt down all those little

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<v Speaker 1>slivers of silver to use in counterfeiting new coins. Clipping

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<v Speaker 1>was so widespread that counterfeiters often clipped their own fakes

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<v Speaker 1>to make them seem more authentic and counterfeiting well. Counterfeiting

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<v Speaker 1>was so rampant that some estimates claimed that one out

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<v Speaker 1>of every ten coins in circulation was fake. That was

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<v Speaker 1>super bad for people at all levels of English society,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the butcher, baker

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<v Speaker 1>and candlestick makers. Not to mention the seventeenth century baristas.

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<v Speaker 1>Silver was the lifeblood of the economy. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would have used to pay for daily expenses. If

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't enough of it to go around, or if

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<v Speaker 1>what there was was debased and distrusted costs rows astronomically,

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<v Speaker 1>economic life ground to a halt. The thing was, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to be this way. The Mint had a

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<v Speaker 1>solution right there in its workshop. Act two. Msieur Blondeaux

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<v Speaker 1>and his marvelous machines. Peter blonde was an engineer at

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris Mint when he was noticed by England's Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>in sixte How and why he was noticed I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. The important part is that the Treasury Committee

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<v Speaker 1>believed that Blondo had worked on improving the French coin,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically with using these new machines to mill, press and

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<v Speaker 1>edge coins, and that he could be persuaded to come

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<v Speaker 1>to England. This was a year of massive political upheaval.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles the First was beheaded by the Parliamentarians, ending the monarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Cromwell appeared in general ame Lord Protector of the

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<v Speaker 1>newly made Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Wales, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also canceled Christmas. The change in regime necessitated a change

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<v Speaker 1>in coins, after all. In addition to being a medium

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<v Speaker 1>of exchange, coins are also an easily disseminated reminder of

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<v Speaker 1>who's in charge. Blundo was invited by Parliament's Mint Committee

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<v Speaker 1>to demonstrate his milling and edging technique in sixteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>That year, after showing his very fine pieces to the committee,

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<v Speaker 1>Blundo published a pamphlet a bit of propaganda, describing the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits of his machinery. A humble representation of Peter Blundo,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by another a most humble memorandum from Peter Blunde.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoiler alert, these were not humble. Blondo started by pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out everything that was wrong with hand hammered coins. The

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<v Speaker 1>money coined with emma can not to be made exactly long,

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<v Speaker 1>nor equal in weight and bigness, and is often ghostly

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<v Speaker 1>marked and have many odds of folds, which gives a

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<v Speaker 1>great facility to the false coiners to counterfeit it also

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<v Speaker 1>to the clippers to clip it, it being very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to discern between eclipped piece in one note clipped. Blondo,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Treasury knew, had a better way. Milt coinage

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<v Speaker 1>was a German invention dating as far back as fifty

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of hammering an image into a blank coin, Milt

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<v Speaker 1>coining used a screw press to sink the engraving deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the metal. The innovation was brought to France, where

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanism was improved and adopted by the engineers at

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris meant the machines produced regularly sized and weighted

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<v Speaker 1>coins with precise images, which made them more difficult to counterfeit.

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<v Speaker 1>But Blondo's edging technique was the real start, allowing him

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<v Speaker 1>to put a grooved finish or even a phrase on

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<v Speaker 1>the edges. This would make a coin nearly impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>clip without detection. Blundo wasn't the first to introduce these

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<v Speaker 1>machines to the Royal Mint, however, previous attempts had largely failed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can chalk that up to a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost of setting up and running the new machines

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<v Speaker 1>was considerable, and they were rumored to break down easily.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also the English distrust of anything foreign, especially French.

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps more significantly, there was the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Company of money Ears, more or less hereditary Union Slash Guild,

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<v Speaker 1>had had the exclusive contract with the Mint to produce

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<v Speaker 1>the coins for centuries, but in sixteen fifty the New

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth needed new coins, and the Treasury was willing to

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<v Speaker 1>give Blundo a chance. The money Ears for obvious reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not It didn't help that Blundo not only wanted

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<v Speaker 1>their job and claimed they were rubbish at it, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also accused the money Ears of corruption. In his pamphlets.

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<v Speaker 1>He alleged that the hammered coin fresh from the Mint

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<v Speaker 1>was of disparate weights, and that this was intentional and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the poor he said, who suffered for it,

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<v Speaker 1>which turns to the great ruin and destruction of commerce

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<v Speaker 1>and undoing those poor people who spend their money little

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<v Speaker 1>by little. Blondo was essentially accusing the money Ears of

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<v Speaker 1>serious corruption, of fraud. This really piste them off, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and they came back with a pamphlet of their own,

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<v Speaker 1>a most humble remonstrance for Peter blonde Also not humble.

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<v Speaker 1>The moneyers responded that Blondo couldn't do anything that they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't already do, branded him a liar, and slammed him

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<v Speaker 1>for daring to claim that the money they made was

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<v Speaker 1>ill favoredly coined. Blondo, they said, not only maligned the

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<v Speaker 1>good name of the company of money Ears, but also

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<v Speaker 1>most falsely to imprint in the hearts and minds of

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<v Speaker 1>all people in Christendom, and more especially the good people

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<v Speaker 1>under the obedience of the Parliament of England, that the

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<v Speaker 1>monies of this Commonwealth are not justly made. Blondeau was

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<v Speaker 1>undermining not only English confidence in the currency, but global

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in it as well with his force and scandalous libels.

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<v Speaker 1>In sixteen fifty one, the Treasury decided to settle the

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<v Speaker 1>matter with a competition a money off. Treasury officials said, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>each of you design and make a half crown, a

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<v Speaker 1>shilling and sixpence coin, and we'll see which ones are better.

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<v Speaker 1>David Rammage, the provost of the moneyers, was their champion.

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<v Speaker 1>Provost was an elected position, meaning that Rammage was a

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<v Speaker 1>man of some reputation and power. And now in the

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<v Speaker 1>Great money Off of sixty one, this reputation and the

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<v Speaker 1>reputation of the company and its contract with the Mint

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<v Speaker 1>was on the line. I mustn't file damn that frenchman's

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<v Speaker 1>block ready set money make Brammage made the coins in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they always had, Using a hammer in

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<v Speaker 1>his own hands, he placed the plan, set the blank

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<v Speaker 1>coin on the anvil die to get the alignment perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Holding the top die in place, he swung the hammer,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it down on the die and stamping the image

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<v Speaker 1>into the metal. One done, h two oh three. Blundo

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<v Speaker 1>and his team meanwhile got his machines rolling one two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>ten seconds remaining. I. By the end of the allotted time,

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<v Speaker 1>Rammont had made twelve coins, twelve coins that were a

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<v Speaker 1>bit wonky, that didn't quite look all the same, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>coins that looked like most of the money passed throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the Kingdom, which is to say not great. Blondo meanwhile

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<v Speaker 1>made three hundred coins, three hundred perfectly weighted, regularly sized

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<v Speaker 1>coins of impeccable quality and design, complete with a lettered

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<v Speaker 1>edge that no clipper could clip. On the half crown piece,

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<v Speaker 1>it read truth in Peace Ste Peter Blonde's inventor facet

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<v Speaker 1>That's Latin for he made congratulations to Mont Senior Blondo

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<v Speaker 1>and his marvelous machines. Ram failed Blundo one. But despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Blondo's machines were clearly superior, the treasury

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<v Speaker 1>passed on them. They just couldn't afford it. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes money to make money. But then a stroke

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<v Speaker 1>of luck, the English fleet captured a load of Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>treasure at the Battle of Cadiz in sixteen fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly the Commonwealth was able to pay for Blondo

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<v Speaker 1>and his machines. But then Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell's death

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen fifty eight more or less ended the protector

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<v Speaker 1>at experiment, and it left Blundo without well a protector.

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<v Speaker 1>He shipped his machinery off to Edinburgh and himself back

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<v Speaker 1>to France, and he would have stayed there too, had

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<v Speaker 1>it not been for the terrible quality of the coins

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<v Speaker 1>minted for the restoration. King Charles the second Blundo was

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<v Speaker 1>invited back in sixteen sixty two, and this time given

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty one year contract. The money ears might even

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten to keep their jobs too, because these machines

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<v Speaker 1>still needed skilled men to run them. So the monarchy's

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<v Speaker 1>back blunders back and Christmass back to Huzza. Things should

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<v Speaker 1>have been good, right whoa not so much? Act three

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<v Speaker 1>Fighting the Silver Bullet. In sixteen sixty three, Samuel Peeps,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous diary writer, a guy who was everywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeenth century, toured the mince facilities. This was just

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<v Speaker 1>after Blundo set up shop. Some of the machines were

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be secret, but Peeps was a man who

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<v Speaker 1>knows some people. He later becomes one of Newton's closest friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We were sharing this method of making new money from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning to the end, which is so pretty. They

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<v Speaker 1>say that this way is more charged to the king

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<v Speaker 1>in the old way, but it is meter freeer from

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<v Speaker 1>clipping or counterfeiting. The putting of the words upon the

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<v Speaker 1>edge is not to be done without an engine of

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<v Speaker 1>the charge, and noise that no counterfeit will venture upon,

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<v Speaker 1>and it employs as many men as the old and

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<v Speaker 1>speedy for the next thirty years. The Mint used these

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<v Speaker 1>machines to make the coins when they made the coins,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't an all the time kind of thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want a sense of what made Peep so giddy,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Chris Barker describe how they worked. The Mint

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<v Speaker 1>will get the raw bullion coming in and then they

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<v Speaker 1>will melt down the gold and silver and they will

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<v Speaker 1>cast them out into thin strips to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>the correct thickness for coining. The next part of the

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<v Speaker 1>processes you put them through a machinery which actually blanks them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're getting the blank discs out of that strip

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<v Speaker 1>of metal, and they'll be weighed to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the correct weight, and then you've got a sufficient blank

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<v Speaker 1>and ready for processing. You will end up striking the

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<v Speaker 1>coin using something called screw press, a ginormous t shape.

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<v Speaker 1>The blank was sandwiched between the dyes which carried the images.

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<v Speaker 1>One was on the end of the tea and one

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<v Speaker 1>was on the anvil. Two strong men would turn the

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<v Speaker 1>screw press, wishing the blank in between the person you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna reserve your sympathy for as a gentleman who's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the putting the blanks on and flicking the finished coin

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<v Speaker 1>all or off, because they've had their fingers crushed repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>by having several tons descend on them as they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put blanks and flicked finished coins off. Finally you

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<v Speaker 1>get a finished coin after that striking process. The smaller

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<v Speaker 1>coins had a milled grooved edge, and the larger coins

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<v Speaker 1>had a phrase decks at tutaman, which was Latin for

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<v Speaker 1>a decoration and a safeguard. Fun fact, this phrase was

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<v Speaker 1>on the coins until two thousand seventeen when the new

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<v Speaker 1>pound coin was introduced and the machines did do what

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<v Speaker 1>Blondo promised they would. It was harder to clip a

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<v Speaker 1>machine mild coin, and it was harder to counterfeit them,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet clipping and counterfeiting persisted. In fact, they got worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because the Treasury never recalled the old hand hammered coins. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it is exactly like the scene in foulter Geist when

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<v Speaker 1>Craig T. Nelson is all, you moved the cemetery, but

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<v Speaker 1>you left the bodies, didn't you. And just like in

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<v Speaker 1>foulter geist. The old coins caused all kinds of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>This basically left two sets of coinage in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the good new machine mild coins and the bad old

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<v Speaker 1>hand hammered coins, and both were legal tender. Silver was

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<v Speaker 1>still being clipped off the old coins and much the

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<v Speaker 1>time leaving the country to be sold elsewhere. Counter Fit

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<v Speaker 1>coins flourished because your basic coiners could still do a

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<v Speaker 1>brisk business knocking out messy hand hammered coins. Meanwhile, some

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<v Speaker 1>clever if you like William Chaloner had figured out how

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<v Speaker 1>to fake these supposedly unfakeable coins. Compounding the problem. People merchants,

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<v Speaker 1>especially tended to hoard the good coins. Chris Barker, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got these brand new, lovely regular coins. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. If you're a normal individual who sees

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<v Speaker 1>these coming into coming into them through the banks and

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<v Speaker 1>through their change. You're not going to use and spend

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<v Speaker 1>those brand new coins. You're going to hold them because

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<v Speaker 1>you know they have a good value. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>slightly and scrupulous, what you'll do is you melt down

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<v Speaker 1>the good coins because you know exactly the way, you

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly the fineness. You can create bullion, which you

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<v Speaker 1>can then sell onto the continent as a profit. The

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<v Speaker 1>price of silver had recently gone up in some markets,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that silver was worth more as buoy on the

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<v Speaker 1>raw metal basically in continental Europe than it was as

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<v Speaker 1>face value coins in England. This is what's called arbitrage,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically exploiting the difference in price commodities fetch

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<v Speaker 1>in different markets for a profit. So English silver is

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<v Speaker 1>being sold for continental gold, leaving only the bad, old,

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<v Speaker 1>degraded coins in the hands of the people, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteen nineties it was estimated that only one out

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<v Speaker 1>of every two hundred coins was a machine milled coin.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest were old and busted and below weight or

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up fake. What all of this added up

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<v Speaker 1>to the clipping the counterfeiting the arbitrage markets was that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a serious shortage of silver, and the longer

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<v Speaker 1>the old coins stayed in circulation, the longer clippers and

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<v Speaker 1>coiners stayed in operation, and the supply of silver coins

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<v Speaker 1>perpetually shrank. By now, the stock of real silver coins

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<v Speaker 1>from the pennies to the crowns had dwindled almost to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of extinct. That might explain why the coffee

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<v Speaker 1>has made took your penny. She didn't know when she'd

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<v Speaker 1>see another. The situation became more problematic after the so

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<v Speaker 1>called Glorious Revolution of which removed the Catholic King James

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<v Speaker 1>the Second from the throne and put his Protestant daughter

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and her husband, the Dutch Prince William of Orange

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<v Speaker 1>on it. The new regime needed new coins. These are

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<v Speaker 1>a representation of royal authority and royal power even back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Still for a lot of people in rural area, is

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<v Speaker 1>the only sort of representation that they would have of

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy. You want to have this image of authority

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<v Speaker 1>coming across by your coinage, not you don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be represented at home and abroad by a

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<v Speaker 1>coinage that is it's such poor condition that you can

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<v Speaker 1>barely stand musta. But it wasn't just about how things

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<v Speaker 1>looked again, the coin is the representation of the monarch.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's busted, folks might start one, or if the

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>monarchy is busted too. If you go boil it back

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<v Speaker 1>down to the basics, think about what a coin is

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<v Speaker 1>and why we actually have any designs on a coin

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<v Speaker 1>at all. The design is on there to show that

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of metal, this this piece of silver is

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<v Speaker 1>of a given value, in a given weight, and as

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<v Speaker 1>royal approval. You know it's got the seal of Royalty

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Therefore you know you can trust it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can accept it. And this gets us

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart of what a currency really is. Trust.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an agreement at this moment in history, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>agreement that this shilling weighs this amount of silver because

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<v Speaker 1>the king or queen really Parliament says it does. The

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<v Speaker 1>marks on the coins were a shorthand for the value

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<v Speaker 1>they represented, but also represented the authority that guaranteed that value.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the people don't trust the currency, if the

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<v Speaker 1>people can't agree that this penny is worth a dish

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee, then the people have a problem and the

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<v Speaker 1>government has an even bigger problem. This is also why

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<v Speaker 1>the punishment for counterfeiting or clipping was so severe, public

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<v Speaker 1>disemboweling and head on a spike severe. These were socially

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<v Speaker 1>and economically destabilizing crimes that hacked at the authority of

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<v Speaker 1>the government. In William Lowndes, the Secretary of the Treasury,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to the country's brightest thinkers to ask them what

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<v Speaker 1>to do, including Isaac Newton, who was still lecturing to

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<v Speaker 1>the walls up in Cambridge. Economics as a discipline hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>really been invented yet, so Lowndes was casting his net

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wide for solutions. Newton, like pretty much everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>had the same answer. Recall all the old bad coins,

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<v Speaker 1>make them no longer legal tender, and remnt them duh.

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<v Speaker 1>Newton also suggested that the Treasury make the intrinsic and

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<v Speaker 1>extrinsic values of the money the same. The intrinsic value

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<v Speaker 1>of the coin was its value on the market. The

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<v Speaker 1>extrinsic was the face you. By making those the same

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<v Speaker 1>and reducing the silver content and devaluing the currency in

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<v Speaker 1>the short term, it would keep people from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to make money off melting it down and selling it

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<v Speaker 1>in another market. The Parliament didn't agree to that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of currency manipulation, although they probably should have. You go

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<v Speaker 1>too far, Newton too far? Anyway, it shouldn't have taken Newton, philosopher,

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>John Locke, architects or Christopher Wren, East India Company governor,

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Sir Josiah Child, and a bunch of other prominent people

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<v Speaker 1>to convince Parliament, but it sort of did. In late

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament finally agreed. So gone are all these medieval thin pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've instead of replaced with you know, shiny, new thick,

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<v Speaker 1>machine struck coins that look magnificent. That's that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go for with the great recoinage of It

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be expensive, very expensive, because of how

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<v Speaker 1>degraded the coinage was. It would take three old coins

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<v Speaker 1>to make two new coins. The treasury would need to

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<v Speaker 1>make up that lost silver from somewhere, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like England had a ton of silver mines kicking around.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention, England was also broke, like invent the

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<v Speaker 1>national debt broke, but more on that later. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to fighting an expensive war with France, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>knock on effects of the silver shortage was that people

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<v Speaker 1>tended to pay their taxes in bad coin. This meant

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<v Speaker 1>that the treasury was being shorted, taking in coin that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't weigh as much as its face value said it did,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore wasn't worth as much. But the recoinage was

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to stop the loss of silver from

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Confound the coiners and clippers, William Shalloner among them,

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<v Speaker 1>and shore up the country's fledgling financial institutions. Parliament passed

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<v Speaker 1>the Recoinage Act on January and the melting commenced the

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<v Speaker 1>very next day. But if anyone thought that this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was going to be easy, and based on the

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<v Speaker 1>way Newton was offered the Warden Gig, at least some

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<v Speaker 1>people did well. Nothing considerable coined of the new and

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<v Speaker 1>now only current stamp. Of course, such a scarcity that

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<v Speaker 1>tumults are everyday feared. Join me next time on Newton's

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<v Speaker 1>Law to find out exactly how Isaac Newton, that prickly

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<v Speaker 1>genius saved England. Basically. Newton's Law is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio. It's written and hosted by Me Linda

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez mccrobie. Our senior producer is Ryan Murdoch. Our producer

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Emily. Bye.