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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: This is Retfresh Radio. Y'all, I'm your host k C.

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Speaker 2: Smith and you probably noticed, but a cold front rolled

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Speaker 2: through last week.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: A lot of big deer went down and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of positive reports. However, acorns or acorns, depending on

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Speaker 2: where you're at in the country you're starting to fall,

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a positive or negative impact on your hunt.

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Speaker 2: This is Retfresh.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to rutfresh Radio. Everyone, brought to you by first

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Speaker 2: Light Gear. I'm your host k C.

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Speaker 3: Smith.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Jones is in the building, and Mark Kenyon is

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Speaker 2: on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Apparently the Boss is here. We're not sure which one

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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 4: Well, you said the King is in the building. I

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Speaker 4: said that earlier. You said I'm in the building, so

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean a number of whitetail bucks have gone

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Speaker 2: down so far. This yeah, yeah, congrats to all who

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Speaker 2: have participated and said thing. One of these people on

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Speaker 2: the phone right now or on the podcast has shot

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Speaker 2: more whitetail Bucks than the other two. So doing what

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Speaker 2: we do, I think that would like kind of point

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Speaker 2: to Kingship, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 3: How does? How does it work?

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Speaker 5: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Mark way In?

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Speaker 5: So I'm totally lost right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like this is like when you've got a

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Speaker 6: get together with like all your friends, and your friends

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Speaker 6: all have kids, and then if the kids are of

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Speaker 6: a certain age, they can go all play in the

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Speaker 6: other room, and so you most just let the kids

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Speaker 6: play on their own indo of the room, But every

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Speaker 6: once in.

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Speaker 5: A while you realize, like, oh, it's weirdly quiet over there.

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Speaker 5: I need to go and peek my head in that.

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Speaker 5: That's what I've been doing with the with Wired Hunt's

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Speaker 5: Fresh Radio.

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Speaker 6: I let the kids go play in the room for

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Speaker 6: a while, but this because like, I need to get

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Speaker 6: my head back here and see what the heck Tyler

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Speaker 6: and Casey are doing.

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Speaker 5: And now that I've done that, I.

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Speaker 6: Realized that I had ample cause to be concerned.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever picked your head in the door and

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Speaker 2: then realize one of those kids is big and then

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Speaker 2: they like wedge your head in between the door and

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Speaker 2: the doorframe with the door and smash it a few times.

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Speaker 5: That's yet to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just has been in the realm of possibility marks.

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Speaker 5: In the cars.

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Speaker 6: But I think I think what you're trying to say

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Speaker 6: is that Tyler's killed more deer.

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Speaker 5: Than me this year, therefore he should.

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Speaker 7: Be the king of wired hunt.

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Speaker 8: Is that what?

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Speaker 3: I don't think he really won that position. But no,

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Speaker 3: you can maintain it, Mark or like you have it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, lots of good things have been going on. Once

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Speaker 9: But uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been doing some hunting, Hullmark apparently a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I guess that's what these shows are

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Speaker 6: supposed to be about, right sometimes from the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, I've been out seven of the last eight

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Speaker 6: mentoring a couple of new hunters for four of those days.

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Speaker 6: So yes, I've I've had some interesting, some interesting observations.

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Speaker 5: I can share whatever you want me to share.

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Speaker 2: I want to know how your mentor hunters did well.

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Speaker 6: We had a fun hunt. Unfortunately nobody killed a deer.

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Speaker 6: They were trying to kill their first deer with bo

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Speaker 2: Or just like from being in the woods, hopefully lit

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Speaker 6: Both killed the first year with a gun, and then

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Speaker 6: that they've started bowl hunting, but didn't quite come together,

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Speaker 5: Close, as well as close as you can get.

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, and if you're listening and you don't know what

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Speaker 2: that will link to in the show description that kind

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Speaker 5: I think, right, Mark, Yeah, two years.

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Speaker 2: And then now since then that property is being used

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Speaker 2: for a lot of hunts, like what you're referring to.

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Speaker 3: So pretty cool deal.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw in your story that y'all were out

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Speaker 3: Was like, oh, that's cool. I kind of put it together.

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Speaker 6: That transformation that we started back like five years ago,

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Speaker 6: guys that might be useful for the people. You know,

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Speaker 5: What we did see, there's one camera that the NBA

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Speaker 6: A red oak tree and they were deer hammering the

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Speaker 6: And that's something that I've seen on my other spots

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Speaker 5: I said, all right, you know, it's I've got.

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Speaker 6: Plots like a hunt but I'm going to dive into

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Speaker 6: and there's an oak flat in there that historically there's

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Speaker 4: So you've been hunting quite a bit, which I didn't

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Speaker 4: know that you still had that passion as much as

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Speaker 6: Well, a lot of buck activity despite you know, last

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Speaker 5: Back forty hunt.

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Speaker 6: I was just talking about, you know, late late movement

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Speaker 6: With this front that just moved through, you know over

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Speaker 6: In this terrific habitat in the back for it, we'd

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Speaker 6: didn't happen for us. But I don't know to what

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Speaker 6: I said, is like, were they all in the timber

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Speaker 2: Hey yeah, that's cool, and I'm not This is actually

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Speaker 6: To those little small and those those green plots have

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Speaker 5: As well as other things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know said of eight is like a

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Speaker 5: Anything to you know, but that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: See, I'm tired, tell you the truth of the matter.

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Speaker 2: It looked like purple tops and icycle radish or dicon

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it. I think it probably does.

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Speaker 6: But there's you know, like so many things, there's always

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Speaker 6: You know, as soon as I say acorns, they go

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Speaker 6: So you know, that's part of the fun of it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the you mentioned that that bucket showed up with

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Speaker 4: you said cruising. Did you mean like rut cruising or

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Speaker 6: Yes, sorry, not rut cruising. He was just like moving

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Speaker 3: Got you okay, So things can change pretty quickly. Right now.

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Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of guys that are starting to

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Speaker 4: And uh, you mentioned something to me that made me

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Speaker 3: Can you can you speak to that a little bit?

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Speaker 5: I didn't mean. I wasn't planning on publicly shaming you know.

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Speaker 3: I need it. I need it. It's the only way

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Speaker 6: Well, I've been I listened to every week of the

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Speaker 5: I thoroughly enjoy the updates.

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Speaker 6: And a couple of different weeks I heard you talking,

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Speaker 5: And Dick, So you know, is the moon impacting things?

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Speaker 6: confusing diurnal with photo period. Yeah, and and so I

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Speaker 5: So so that's what photo period is, and that's I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say, allegedly at the end of all that alleged.

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Speaker 2: Mark, it's funny, you love you love your constants, and

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Speaker 2: But it is those little weird things like that that

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Speaker 2: because these things are not predictable. Ye, you know, you

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Speaker 5: Yes, that is the truth. Yeah, you had a.

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Speaker 4: Question, They're toole. I was just gonna I was just

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think diurnal period is a thing, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: I think you made that up.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 6: Because diurnal diurnal nocturnal animals or animals that are most

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Speaker 3: Yes, and crepusculary is in the middle. Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Crepuscular would be most active at the edges. So crepuscular

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Speaker 4: So, uh, diurnal. There's a diurnal cycle, yes, yes, do

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Speaker 6: I think it's the fact that like a diurnal cycle

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Speaker 4: Look at you, you're smart. You're a smart guy. I'm

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Speaker 6: Manly, I'm gonna take these acclades and I can get them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I give them to you. Man.

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Speaker 4: We we're glad to have you back on, man, and

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Speaker 4: So we'll try to try to make sure we stay

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, Can I give you a prediction?

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Speaker 3: I would love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say over the next seven days, at

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Speaker 6: We got that first big cold run. I think we

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Speaker 5: So with that being.

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Speaker 6: The case, I'm gonna give you a standard Midwest six

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be decent.

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Speaker 5: And if you're on a deer you certainly have an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Man, y'all are on your way to be in Canada. Man,

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Speaker 4: that's a that's a good prediction for sure. I'd probably

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Speaker 3: To happen, I think, yep. So, but with this cold.

445
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 4: Front, you know, we had a lot of deer die

446
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: across the country and a lot of hunters that were

447
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 4: experiencing really good movement. So we're gonna, we're gonna, you know,

448
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 4: get a few of those guys on the phone right

449
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 4: now and chat with them and see if they have

450
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 4: the same prediction.

451
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: Tyler. Who we got this week, Well, this week.

452
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: We've got several guys from different places in the US.

453
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 4: We've got Aaron war brittin there in Iowa. He's been

454
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 4: doing some hunting with some of his buddies that do

455
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 4: the hunting public stuff. We got Clay Nukelem in Arkansas,

456
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: Arkansas with a W at the end, Dakota Long he's

457
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 4: in Texas. He's a good friend of ours. And another

458
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: good friend of ours Drew Robbins down in Alabama. These

459
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: guys are gonna give us reports that are gonna hopefully

460
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 4: tin anywhere you're at in the US except maybe the northeast.

461
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll hook you up next next week with that one.

462
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 4: Now on the phone, have got Aaron war Britain from

463
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 4: the hunting public, and you've been up in the Midwest

464
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: hunting all over the place Iowa, namely, how's that been

465
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 4: looking lately?

466
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: Man? Real good?

467
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 5: Since this cold front.

468
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 10: We've had a little a little bit different scenario this year,

469
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 10: which is not uncommon. You know, each year is a

470
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 10: little bit different, I feel like, and you always have

471
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 10: got to hunt situations based on whatever conditions you.

472
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: Have in the given moment. But this time.

473
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Speaker 10: Around, we were very very dry going into the season,

474
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 10: so hardly any water. All the intermittent creeks are dry.

475
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 10: The only places that deer could get water because I

476
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 10: mean it's been you know, almost months without any sizeable rain.

477
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 10: It's been pons er or permanent water like creeks or rivers,

478
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 10: but all the intermittent streams are dry. And what we noticed,

479
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 10: I mean, all the vegetation is dry, even there's not

480
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 10: much moisture in it. And at this point in the year,

481
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 10: the crops have dried down. Also, deer are living real,

482
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 10: real close to permanent water. That's been the big key

483
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 10: that we found, you know, even hunting in that real,

484
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 10: real hot weather during the first week of season, it

485
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 10: was like ninety degrees and then it fell off and

486
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 10: you know, dropped to thirty degrees in that recent cold front.

487
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 10: And since that cold front, the buck sign is just

488
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 10: ramped way up, Like there lots of fresh rubs, lots

489
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 10: and lots of fresh scrapes since that cold front came around.

490
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: So we were just driving home from South Dakola this

491
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: past weekend and there's a lot of harvest happened, which

492
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: seems early to me. How has that drought affected the

493
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: crops And do you think they're pulling stuff out earlier

494
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: than normal?

495
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 10: I think they are, but that's probably just based on

496
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 10: the lack of rainfall and the yields this year are

497
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 10: poor in a lot of areas from the drought. But yeah,

498
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 10: we're seeing the same thing. Crops are coming out for

499
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 10: whatever reason. Though we've seen decent acorn crop. You know,

500
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 10: it depends on.

501
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: The area that you're at.

502
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 10: I was at one area the other day and there

503
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 10: was gobs and gobs of white oak and red oak

504
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 10: acorns on the ground and deer were smoking them. And

505
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 10: then I went thirty minutes down the road and there

506
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 10: was very few acorns and you know, a swath of

507
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 10: timber that we worked through, so it's it's hit or miss,

508
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 10: but there's definitely on acorns and that's where we've been

509
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 10: finding lots of bucks sign and lots of first straps

510
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 10: and stuff. Hadn't seen a lot of scraping activity until

511
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 10: this recent front, but been really really ramped up. Had

512
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 10: a nice buck come by working scrapes just two nights ago.

513
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: So would you like, if you're looking into the next week,

514
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: would you suggest checking scrapes out, maybe hanging cameras over them,

515
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 4: or even hunting them on an afternoon that you get off.

516
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 5: Oh for sure.

517
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 10: I love hunting scrapes, especially during bo season, just because

518
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 10: it puts a deer on a spot you can set

519
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 10: up well with the you know, down wind of the scrape.

520
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 10: In a lot of situations, you can wait for the

521
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 10: deer to get there. You can, you know, it gives

522
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 10: you a really good high odds chance at killing a deer.

523
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 10: You can put yourself within twenty yards of them. You

524
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 10: can wait for the deer to get there and start

525
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 10: working the scrapes. You can come to full draw and

526
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 10: then wait for your opportunity. They don't work every time, obviously.

527
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 10: If you're just walking along the edge of a nag

528
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 10: field and you're finding ten to fifteen fresh scrapes there,

529
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 10: that's pretty good ways from any sort of secure bedding area.

530
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 10: I wouldn't fool with those. I'd put cameras over those.

531
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 10: But if you're finding scrapes back in the timber, you know,

532
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 10: on a secluded oak flat or something like that, especially

533
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 10: close to permanent water this year, I would be looking

534
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 10: at that pretty hard here in the next few days.

535
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: If if you see a if you see a storm

536
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: come through and you're in one of those dry areas

537
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: right now, that that the deer using that water heavily,

538
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: does that knock them off those water patterns? You feel like,

539
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: are you more apt to go back to scrapes where

540
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: they might be freshening stuff up or or what do

541
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: you think?

542
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: A jury's still out on that one.

543
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 10: I don't know. I'm kind of waiting for that to

544
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 10: happen and see. Yeah, because like I said at the

545
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 10: at the beginning, every year is a little bit different.

546
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 10: And I think just because it's been so dry for

547
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 10: so long right now, there's very little like succulent greed

548
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 10: and food sources other than natural brows because that stuff,

549
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 10: that stuff's got deep roots and it pulls moisture from from.

550
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: Lower than a lot of you know.

551
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 10: Grasses or even food plot crops. So I don't know,

552
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 10: I mean, everything is just so so dry that we've

553
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 10: noticed that that's where all the deer are concentrated at

554
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 10: is anywhere close to permanent water. And and when we're

555
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 10: close to permanent water, we're finding a lot of scrapes

556
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 10: and rubs because that's where that's obviously where the bucks are.

557
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 10: I mean, we target those areas on a year when

558
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 10: it's not dry, just because big bucks often will put

559
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 10: themselves in a spot real close to permanent water.

560
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: As far as your betting area choice, will go.

561
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 10: But that's especially evident this year when it's really really

562
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 10: dry and they can't because there's there's the moisture content

563
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 10: in the brows that they're eating.

564
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 5: Right now is so low that they've they've.

565
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 10: Got to have some sort of permanent water source close by.

566
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we sat upon the other day that was.

567
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 10: Real close to a parking lot on public land that

568
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 10: gets pounded, and I think Ted saw eight or nine deer.

569
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: Man, that sounds like a good hunt early in the season.

570
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm glad they already on that hard if you

571
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: were looking forward to the next week, I need you,

572
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: if you would, to rank what you expect the buck

573
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: movement to be like on a scale of one to ten.

574
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh, man, I don't know.

575
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 5: Depends on where you're at.

576
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: Well, Southern, I will give me that one. That's what

577
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: I need to know.

578
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 10: Well, it even depends on where you're at in the woods.

579
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 10: You know your situation, how tight are you to the betty?

580
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 10: But I would say overall, it's going to be pretty good.

581
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 10: I would if I had my choice, I'd be hunting

582
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 10: cold fronts in October over any other time.

583
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: M hm.

584
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 10: So I would say seven or eight, especially if we

585
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 10: get a really good front here later part.

586
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 5: Of this week.

587
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: Man, that's a pretty exciting time. Man.

588
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: That's seven or eight in southern I was about as

589
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: good as it gets. So that's a good time to

590
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: get out there. And I'm sure y'all will. Dude, I

591
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: appreciate the report. Thanks, no problem.

592
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: Man.

593
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: On the phone, I have got meeters on Arkansas's native son,

594
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Clay Newcombe.

595
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: How are you today, sir?

596
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Casey, doing just great.

597
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: That's good man. Well, I know you've been doing a

598
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: little light til hunting. In fact, we were talking mid

599
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: hunt this past week. We were both giving each other

600
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 2: some you know, a little bit of encouragement, and I

601
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: wanted to see how that went for you.

602
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: Man. How has the hunting been there in Arkansas?

603
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 8: Man, I have got a fresh load of not great

604
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 8: news from the white tailed nukem world down here.

605
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 7: I have.

606
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 8: I've not had a real great season so far, just man,

607
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 8: hadn't been seeing hadn't been finding much buck sign, hadn't

608
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 8: been getting pictures of any deer, which usually I am

609
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 8: this time of year, getting pictures of deer over feed,

610
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 8: sometimes getting pictures of deer over mock scrapes and different stuff,

611
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 8: and I don't really understand.

612
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 7: It completely, but I have not.

613
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 8: I actually didn't even hunt much this last weekend because

614
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 8: I just was.

615
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 7: A little just kind of waiting.

616
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 8: You know, I've got your spots that I don't want

617
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 8: to bombard too much until I'm pretty confident that there's

618
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 8: a deer there that I want to kill.

619
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 7: I can kill him.

620
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 8: And so I spent this last weekend, which was an

621
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 8: incredible cold front, you know, October's first cold front. I

622
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 8: know a lot of guys here that killed good deer

623
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 8: this weekend, but I was not one of them.

624
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it's it's tough, but you know, I

625
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: understand that the patient game is is good. You and

626
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: I were talking about some bear hunting you've been doing

627
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: up there, and you were targeting acron ridges. Do you

628
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: think that the acorns are having an impact on the

629
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: white tails where you're at as well?

630
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 8: Well, that's that's part of the deal is I've not

631
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 8: really found I've yet to really find big concentrations of acorns,

632
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 8: and usually that's the that's the bear story.

633
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 7: If you can find the acres, you can find the bears.

634
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 8: But I think some of the acorns are holding a

635
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 8: little longer than they usually do. They're not falling. But

636
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 8: also there are just not as many here in the

637
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 8: places where I'm at. I've not found a lot of acres.

638
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: We're kind of seeing the same thing clay down here

639
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: where we're at in East Texas. Now, as far as

640
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: you know, the playing the slow game and being conservative,

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: are you are you waiting on something in particular? Are

642
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: you waiting on just stuff to show up on trail camera?

643
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: Are you work well on conditions or what?

644
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 8: Okay, So the specifics of my situation this year is

645
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 8: I lost a farm that a big farm for me

646
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 8: that I've had access to for twenty years, which has

647
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 8: kind of locally allowed me. I didn't realize how good

648
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 8: I had it until it was gone, and I so

649
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 8: I lost like ninety percent of my hunting ground, and

650
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 8: I'd relied on it so much that I just didn't

651
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 8: have a lot of other stuff up now. I and

652
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 8: also because I had this private I have not invested

653
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 8: a ton in local public land hunting.

654
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 7: Okay, it's complicated.

655
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 8: Story, boys, and so, but the ten percent of the

656
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 8: remaining private permissions that I have are small properties. So

657
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 8: basically I woke up to this year and it's like

658
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 8: I have a couple of very small properties that I'm

659
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 8: hunting that I have had to be conservative, had to

660
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 8: be conservative in because they're so small, if that answers

661
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 8: your question, Tyler. Yeah, so, and there's just not there's

662
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 8: one good deer that I've got on camera in nothing fancy,

663
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 8: I mean like one hundred and twenty five inches a year, probably,

664
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 8: which I would I would hunt him like a Boon

665
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 8: and Crockett and I will, but I have just not

666
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 8: really got him on pattern. I've got him on camera

667
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 8: two or three times, random, no pattern. And it's a

668
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: small property. So it's not like I can go, well,

669
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 8: I know where he's bedding, or I'm going to go

670
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 8: over on this ridge and see if I can find

671
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 8: him over there. It's kind of like he's either on

672
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 8: my place or he's not.

673
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: You know.

674
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 8: Well, And so that's why I found myself being conservative.

675
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 7: But losing the losing the public.

676
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 8: Has pushed me back to kind of my roots of

677
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 8: local hunting, which is I did go on some public land.

678
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 7: It's a long story.

679
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 8: I do hunt public land every year in Arkansas, a

680
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 8: long ways from my house.

681
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, that's all I'll say. I travel and hunt public.

682
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say any public U hunts way away

683
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: from my house too.

684
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: It's the way.

685
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: It's definitely the thing to say, you know nowhere near

686
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: you home.

687
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So exactly looking.

688
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: At the weather, we we you know, the moon's kind

689
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: of going away. It's gonna be kind of low. I

690
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: don't know if you think about that much. But we

691
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: have fairly monotonous weather coming up for like even the

692
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: tea forecast. There's a little bit of a front I

693
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: think this weekend, but it's you know, we're looking at

694
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: a real similar stretch of days through here.

695
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: Well, that being said, and thinking about.

696
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: The acron situation and what you have to hunt, what

697
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: do you think the buck movement's going to be like

698
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: on a scale of one to ten over the next week.

699
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 7: Probably like a five.

700
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't I think that the middle of

701
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 8: October for where I'm at has never been great. It

702
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 8: feels like to me, you know, after about the twentieth

703
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 8: of October.

704
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 7: Anything could happen. I mean, you could.

705
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 8: Have a buck on a dough that is you know,

706
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 8: I mean a dough in heat. It's it seems like

707
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 8: you know that that that and that causes bucks to

708
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 8: be moving around a lot more.

709
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 7: To me, the twentieth of October here.

710
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 8: In northwest Arkansas is time to start getting serious and

711
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 8: to start being less conservative in terms of like, now's

712
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 8: the time to hunt your good stuff the next ten days.

713
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 8: I mean, I'll hunt anytime that I get a chance,

714
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 8: and anything could happen. I was just talking to some

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: guys today that last may not have been last year,

716
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 8: maybe been two years ago, but on October the fourteenth,

717
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 8: they saw a giant buck locked down on a dough.

718
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 8: I mean, like, straight up, she was in heat, he was.

719
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 8: I mean, you'd have thought it was November the fourth

720
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 8: how about that? And that was on October fourteenth.

721
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 7: And I think it feels like in this part of

722
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: the world we're.

723
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 8: Seeing kind of these longer ruts. I don't know if

724
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 8: that's anecdotal and not real, but it feels like anything

725
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 8: could happen a little sooner. But I don't anticipate. If

726
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 8: I was waiting for days to take off, I wouldn't

727
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 8: take off.

728
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 7: Gotchafter the twentieth of October.

729
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: The quality information we need there, Sir Clay Nukem of

730
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Arkansas Buck Truck Fame, where we hunted together down in

731
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: Arkansas and play on the public ground.

732
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: Clay.

733
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate the insights, sir, and uh, I'm sure we'll

734
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: be talking to you soon. Can't wait to see how

735
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: your season unfolds.

736
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 8: Well, I've been enjoying seeing how y'all's has unfolded, and

737
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 8: it's been good.

738
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 7: So good job to y'all.

739
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: On the phone, I got to the Dakota along with

740
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Cotton Creek Outdoors.

741
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: He's been doing some hunting down in Texas. What's up, dude,

742
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: Hey k C.

743
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on.

744
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're welcome. Man.

745
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: You know, actually, from where we sit, you're up in

746
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Texas because you're a little further north than US's not

747
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: a whole lot, but I think that the general public

748
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: doesn't realize how big the country of Texas is a

749
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: monster place. Uh, it's almost like we're neighbors and we're

750
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: three hours apart. So, dude, I was scrolling socially the

751
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: other day and I saw a big giant buck and

752
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: I saw a big old smile from you right behind him.

753
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: The other day. You shoot shot you a big one, dude, Yes, sir.

754
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah he was.

755
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 5: He was a really cool buck.

756
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 11: As my biggest deer to date and it was, uh,

757
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 11: it was pretty I made a batch you out on him,

758
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 11: but hey, that's part of bow hunting sometimes.

759
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: We we we recovered him though.

760
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: That's great, man, I'm glad you got him. So, uh,

761
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: what tactic were you using hunting that deer?

762
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 11: So, uh, you know, we're we're hunting over like gravity

763
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 11: fed protein fears out that way, so it's more of

764
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 11: a feed feeding situation on on our side.

765
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: And then but the deer hadn't been hitting it as much.

766
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 11: Everything's kind of starting to change, as you guys probably

767
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 11: have seen with cameras and that kind of stuff. It's

768
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 11: they're they're going to the woods that I've seen or uh,

769
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 11: they're been hitting locust trees a lot, eating those those beans,

770
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 11: and they've just been inconsistent on fears. Uh, the bachelor

771
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 11: groups are really starting to break up. From what I

772
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 11: can tell, they're not you'll still see bucks together, they're

773
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 11: not really fighting. Some of the young bucks are are

774
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 11: kind of sparring, but it's there. They're really not consistent

775
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 11: on the feed anymore, at least the mature deer aren't.

776
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 7: Yeah.

777
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: So I actually saw a truck and pictured this morning

778
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: of a deer eating a locust bean pod, which is interesting.

779
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: You mentioned that do you guys have live oaks out

780
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: there where you're at.

781
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a few.

782
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: It's there's not a whole bunch, but there is.

783
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: Some, Yes, sir, do they are they dropping? And are

784
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: you seeing any deer hitting them?

785
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

786
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: So the ones we've seen.

787
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 11: Actually, the night I killed my buck, there was some

788
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 11: younger deer that actually went over to uh. I guess

789
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 11: it was a live oak, but it was kind of

790
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 11: a low hanging one, and he stood up on his

791
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 11: back feet and was shaking those limbs and getting that

792
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 11: those acrons to fall the hand.

793
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 5: They're still over there for.

794
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 11: Fifteen or twenty minutes before they ever came over and

795
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 11: to the feeder.

796
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: What are the chances that he's browsing leaves off that

797
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 4: thing too?

798
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's a very good chance of it.

799
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

800
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 11: And at first I thought he was making a scrape,

801
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 11: and I was like, no, he's not making a scrape.

802
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 7: He's shaking that tree and getting acrons off of it.

803
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: Would you say that there are more deer that are

804
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: eating off those acre trees, off those live oaks, or

805
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: or around them, or there's more deer that are coming

806
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: to protein feeders.

807
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 11: So I think it's it's a little mixture of both

808
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 11: because it's a like every third day, those mature deer

809
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 11: will come back to the feeders, but they're they're staying

810
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 11: in the timber.

811
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 10: I mean, they don't have to go anywhere.

812
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. Has the cool front affected the deer movement?

813
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, I've seen a lot more doze on cameras,

814
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 11: and they're really I don't I don't think they're they're

815
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 11: packing up quite yet, but they're they're not as consistent

816
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 11: as they were on their like summer feeding patterns.

817
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 5: That's for sure.

818
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

819
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: So if you were looking forward, you know, the the

820
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: weather for textas at least where we're at, is really

821
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: monotone for like the next ten days. Is that what

822
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: you're kind of seeing as well? Or do y'all have

823
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: some fronts going out there further west?

824
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, we got one front coming in I think like

825
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 11: Friday night is what it's looking like, and then by

826
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 11: Monday it's gonna be kind of back up in the eighties.

827
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 11: So I think it's gonna be maybe a couple.

828
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: Of good days of some some bucks.

829
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 11: Like hitting you know, a food source or there. It's

830
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 11: gonna uh and then I think it's gonna kind of

831
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 11: just mellow out and you're gonna be kind of seeing

832
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 11: the same younger deer for a few days and those

833
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 11: when it warms back up. I feel like those those

834
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 11: big bucks they'll kind of, you know, stay stagnant for

835
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 11: a little bit.

836
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

837
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: So with that loom in, I suppose you got kind

838
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: of like a little bit of a window there looking

839
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: at the next week. If you had to rank what

840
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: you thought buck movement would be like on a scale

841
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: of one to ten, what would you say it is

842
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: for Texas for the next week.

843
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: I would I would give it a seven.

844
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think.

845
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: I think.

846
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 11: I think you're gonna still see some some big some

847
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 11: big bucks moving and a lot of younger bucks moving

848
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 11: for sure.

849
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: How about that, man, that's a good that makes me

850
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: want to go get in the woods right now. This

851
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: is well not right now, but this weekend. You say that,

852
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: that sounds a right all right to me.

853
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I feel like we're.

854
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 11: Going to get you know, in the it's looking in

855
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 11: the upper forties and the in the like Friday night,

856
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 11: I think so, I think that Saturday is really going

857
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 11: to get their the deer on their feet and then

858
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 11: it'll kind of back off, you know as the beginning

859
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 11: of next week starts. But I feel like it's really

860
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 11: really going to give him a good push, I hope.

861
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: Awesome.

862
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: Man, Well, thanks, report really appreciate it and hope you

863
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: have a good rest of the season.

864
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: Dude, you bet I appreciate y'all.

865
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: I got our friend Drew Robbins. He's been hunting in Alabama.

866
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: What's going on, dude.

867
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 9: Man, Not much, brother, just trying to take advantage of

868
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 9: this cold weather.

869
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 5: It's cool weather that just.

870
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 9: Moved in, and so we're excited about that and so

871
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 9: hoping to get out a couple more times in the

872
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 9: next couple of weeks and try to get something else

873
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 9: down on the ground that's cool.

874
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: Man.

875
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: So you know, we are Southern Brethren, and around here

876
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: we call them cool fronts because it ain't really cold yet.

877
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: Do you say that where we're at too, well, we

878
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: we call them cold fronts.

879
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 9: And so, but I mean, you know, y'all, are you

880
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 9: know Texas Brethren over there?

881
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: You know, eighty from ninety to eighty.

882
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: Five is a cool look at it, you know.

883
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: So have you all been out getting after de youer

884
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: pretty good already.

885
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, we've been out and uh it's been keenan

886
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 9: on some uh you know, just just the traditional early

887
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 9: season uh you know, acrons and uh we we had

888
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 9: a really wet summer and so in our neck of

889
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: the woods, it seems like we have a really good,

890
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 9: uh bumper crop of acorns this year. And so that's

891
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 9: what we've been keenan and on. Guys that I know

892
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 9: have been keenan on is is that stuff right there?

893
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: So do you guys have like that kind of traditional

894
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: American white oak or using You've seen a lot of

895
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: different stuff dropping in your area.

896
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 9: Normally it's the white oaks that are that are early season,

897
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 9: and then once you get a little bit later, uh

898
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 9: you know, the red oaks will start dropping. And so

899
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 9: but that's that's were mostly key on is wide oak.

900
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 9: But that's also because we have death majority of the

901
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 9: oaks around here.

902
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: Is that So are they deer using them right now?

903
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

904
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're seeing that?

905
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, So it's it's it's one of those things.

906
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 9: It's a double edged sword in the sense of if

907
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 9: you can find the one that they are about, then man,

908
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 9: you have a really good chance of at least seeing

909
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: there but also harvesting. But also since we had such

910
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 9: a wet summer, like I said, they don't have to

911
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 9: travel very far, and.

912
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 5: So we have We have quite a few of the.

913
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 9: Of the oaks up in our area, and so maybe

914
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 9: in South Alabama and in South Georgia might not be

915
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 9: as much, but we have a lot of oaks up

916
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 9: here and so so they don't have to travel as much,

917
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 9: which makes it a little bit more difficult. But like

918
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 9: I said, if you can find that one and you're

919
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 9: you're in the chips.

920
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: So we were talking to Mark Kenyon earlier and he

921
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 4: said that the acorns are affecting the movement they're seeing

922
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 4: on like food plots and stuff. Have you noticed any

923
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: of that? Are you seeing less moving on food plots?

924
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: So they still hitting the green fields and stuff like that.

925
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're they're hitting the green fields just a

926
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 5: little bit.

927
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 9: I actually set over at Greenfield opening day or opening afternoon,

928
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 9: i should say, and I killed a dough but it's

929
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 9: not near as.

930
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: What it was as compared to last year.

931
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 9: Just for example, I got a couple of cameras on

932
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 9: some food plots that that I lease and have permission on,

933
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 9: and then we were getting slamm last year with with thoughs,

934
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 9: and this year it's not nearly as much.

935
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: And so because they're they're on the milk's hard right now.

936
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: So being down in the southern part of the US,

937
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: you have a later rud I'm assuming, uh, at least

938
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: in party estate. Does that mean that the technical early

939
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: season patterns last longer as well?

940
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 5: Correct?

941
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, we we're seeing down here, and I mean, you know,

942
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 9: the the early season pattern could last into you know, uh,

943
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 9: first of November. But it's also unique here because we

944
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 9: also have rud activity around that time as well.

945
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 11: And so.

946
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 9: But really, once you get that first real good frost

947
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 9: I'm talking about, like real good one, that's kind of

948
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 9: when and at least what I've seen, the early season

949
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 9: patterns really start to dissipate and then they start to

950
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 9: they start to spar a little bit and start to

951
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 9: kind of fill their oat some. And so we had

952
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 9: a nice cool front move in this past weekend and

953
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 9: dropped it down and it was in the low forties.

954
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: But traditionally it'll get back hot again or.

955
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 9: Warmer, and then we'll have another real good one in

956
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 9: the first of November. And if that's when we really

957
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 9: see them start to break up and really start to

958
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 9: spar a little bit and lay down a lot more.

959
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 9: Buck sign is when we get that first good frost.

960
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

961
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: So in the next week, thinking about variables that can

962
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 4: deal with weather or the photo period, or maybe even

963
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: food sources changing or whatever it might be, maybe the moon,

964
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: what do you predict the buck movement to be like

965
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: on a scale of one to ten in the next

966
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: week or.

967
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 9: So, one to ten, I would probably say a five,

968
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 9: just uh yeah, just.

969
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: Middle middle there there the road just coming.

970
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 9: Off a what I would call probably like a seven,

971
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 9: you know, of the past week that it's gonna warm

972
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 9: up some also it's it's it's weird because the reason

973
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 9: they're also not hitting food plots is a lot of

974
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 9: guys don't have food plots down in the ground yet

975
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 9: because we haven't had a whole lot of rain once

976
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 9: the calendar hit September, so we got a ton during

977
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 9: the summer, and then once it hit uh you know,

978
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 9: uh September, which I know for some of the southern

979
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 9: states that's the openers.

980
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: We didn't we didn't get a whole lot of rain

981
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 5: here in Alabama.

982
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: So that's another reason we're not seeing a whole lot

983
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 9: of activity on on Greenfield. So I would say, man,

984
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 9: uh just to average five, you know, just average hunh week, gotcha.

985
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for the report man. I look forward to

986
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: seeing what you put down on the ground this year.

987
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 4: And uh hope we'll be talking to you soon.

988
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: Thanks fellas, say you.

989
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: After listening to these guys, I am pumped to go

990
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: deer hunting.

991
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 10: Man.

992
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: It's here, guys, power, it is dad. Come to your season.

993
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: As we like to say around here. You can get

994
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: out there and chase around with a boat back here

995
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: anywhere in the country now. So it's an exciting time

996
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: to be one hundred's exciting time, a good time to

997
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: be live. There's a great country and Western song by

998
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: Travis Tripp that had a lot to do with that

999
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: at one point in time. It might be what we

1000
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: need to listen to in a way to stand next time.

1001
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 2: If you need to feel inspired and you've done listen

1002
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: to Travis, but you want to maybe watch something, you

1003
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: need to go check out the latest and greatest episode

1004
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: of Buck Truck.

1005
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: It's from Texas, a very own home state.

1006
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: There was a Texas report here and Mark Kenyon, who

1007
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 2: also was in the intro today was on that hunt

1008
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: as well. Mark elects to make a decision on a

1009
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: buck in that video.

1010
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: You need to go watch it and see if it

1011
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: was the right or wrong decision. Let us know what

1012
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: you think on that.

1013
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Also, the last episode of One Week in November should

1014
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: be live on the Meat Eater channel as well, so

1015
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: go check that out if you haven't. And that's what

1016
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: I know, guys. It's rout fresh. It is time to

1017
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: get out and hunt some deer. This has been rut fresh,

1018
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: Keep it fresh.