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Speaker 1: Anthony dor set De, Montrey Moore and New He scrugs.

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Speaker 3: He got three former NFL players in the house.

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Speaker 4: Got Anthony dor Set here, Dematre Moore here, Barry Church here,

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Speaker 4: I'm new, He scrugs. And gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. The Cowboys

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Speaker 4: get ready to take on the Minnesota Vikings. NBC Sunday

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Speaker 4: Night Football. Jerry World, Trayvon Digg. Yesterday we talked about

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Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, so we heard from bryanh Off,

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Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator, Matt e Flus mentioned that Trayvon Dicks

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Speaker 4: did a nice job, but he needs to be more consistent.

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Speaker 3: What's up with all this on this terminology?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 3: Consistent?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Subliminals? Man? Is that saying he up? Or is he down?

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Speaker 3: We're trying to We're trying how do we decode it? Baby?

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Speaker 6: I don't just like This is what I don't understand, Like,

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Speaker 6: who on this defense outside of Quinn Williams has been consistent?

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Speaker 6: Like who who has been like in Kenny Clark, I'll

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Speaker 6: get him. And besides them too, who's been out here?

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Speaker 3: Like you know what?

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Speaker 6: That's that's what we need every every down in and

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Speaker 6: down out. I don't see anybody on this defense outside

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Speaker 6: of those two that has been that consistent. So for me,

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Speaker 6: what's the hold up?

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Speaker 7: You might not see consistency, but you see splashes. You

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Speaker 7: see what they say, don't go waterfall, but at least

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Speaker 7: still drop playing.

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Speaker 3: So look, he's at the at the end of the day, man.

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Speaker 4: Head coaches used the terminology defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere along the way.

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Speaker 4: Is it is that's an issue for show because nobody's saying, man, hey,

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to have him back.

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Speaker 3: We got two good receivers in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: We need one of our better corners in the league,

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Speaker 4: a guy who's been a star wark me. Jerry had

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Speaker 4: no problem talking about, hey, man, I'm paying you all

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Speaker 4: this money.

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Speaker 3: I need to show you a can Now. We're not

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Speaker 3: hearing that, man, We don't hear nothing. You know, we resist.

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Speaker 8: What was the word that We've been talking about this

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Speaker 8: week culture culture change.

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Speaker 5: So is.

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Speaker 3: Digs good for the culture of the team at this point?

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Speaker 3: Or young Tray said foundation? Remember that was his foundation.

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Speaker 7: I told you, I said there's a foundation here. There

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Speaker 7: has not been a culture change, but the things are shifting.

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Speaker 7: We know those where you'd be like, hey, this next

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Speaker 7: year is going to be different, and you're seeing it

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Speaker 7: right now, Like with Shoty coming out here, like he's

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Speaker 7: not bad mouthing his player.

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Speaker 5: That's what a good head coach is supposed to do.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to sit here and say what's going

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Speaker 7: on in the house, but what he is going to

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Speaker 7: say is.

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Speaker 5: Like, hey, do these things.

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Speaker 3: What is the foundation?

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Speaker 7: The foundation is a good head coach that's not taking

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Speaker 7: bs and letting you know that we're not just putting

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Speaker 7: people out here that got the contracts.

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Speaker 3: Not taking be foundation.

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Speaker 7: And mind you, this is a different head coach. This

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Speaker 7: isn't a Mike McCarthy, this isn't a Jason Garrett. This

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Speaker 7: is somebody that actually has enthusiasm and the leader amongst men,

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Speaker 7: which what we said they need. That's the foundation. As

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Speaker 7: far as you having the head coach Jason Garrett, No,

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Speaker 7: no disrespect he had. He had enthusiasmic no disrespect to Jay,

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Speaker 7: I respect T shirts man.

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Speaker 5: I was just about to say.

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Speaker 8: Anyways, so y'all said, here is sisty behind the scenes.

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Speaker 6: You still behind ye yet I was just.

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Speaker 5: While he messing around, I still got my yet cup.

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Speaker 7: That was a great Yett cup. Everything goes for different struggs,

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Speaker 7: different folks. But anyway back to it, you got your

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Speaker 7: great head coach, you got Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: As what else is the founding? I need the foundational

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Speaker 7: Of the foundation exactly, QB. Dak Prescott Foundation. Three three

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Speaker 7: headed horsemen over there, Kenny Williams, I mean Quentin Williams,

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Speaker 7: a good foundational piece right there. And bringing those guys in,

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Speaker 7: you already know who your defensive coordinator is. These coaches,

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Speaker 7: Jerry has already said it's going to be back here.

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Speaker 7: We know what Jerry is in the owner. Those are

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Speaker 7: foundational pieces moving forward. Can you build off of that?

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Speaker 7: Like there's been sparks and flashes that got you saying

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Speaker 7: do you not. So that's why I'm saying the foundation

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Speaker 7: is there and there. Jerry even said it before he

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Speaker 7: even got the players that he traded, like and this

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Speaker 7: is where we don't give Jerry Jones enough kudos. We

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Speaker 7: make jokes and say, hey, you find out on Tuesday,

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Speaker 7: but he told you we're not one player away, like

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Speaker 7: this isn't gonna happen. But there's some stuff that's happening,

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Speaker 7: and it has been happening. He's getting the foundation there

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Speaker 7: and he's given the Carpenter his tools.

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Speaker 6: Are you confident enough to say that Diggs is not

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Speaker 6: one of the top three corners on this.

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Speaker 5: Team right now?

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Speaker 7: No healthy, Yes, But if he's says he's not back up,

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Speaker 7: because guess what, he's still on ir He hasn't been

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Speaker 7: back since he showed up when he came in here. Yes,

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Speaker 7: he was backing off the pup list. But that wasn't

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Speaker 7: the same Trayvon Diggs that you've seen in years prior.

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Speaker 3: So the Digs now it is not the top three

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Speaker 5: Team healthy yes, not healthy No.

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Speaker 3: Based off of what we saw in the beginning of

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no difference in Diggs played than anybody else

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Speaker 8: that we've seen play this year at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 8: They've all given up big plays, They've all had some

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Speaker 8: type of communication errors. And for him to be that

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Speaker 8: like you would think that.

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Speaker 3: His his his I guess you could.

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Speaker 8: Say window of making mistakes and that being part of

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Speaker 8: what the culture shift should.

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Speaker 3: Be should be.

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Speaker 8: I guess you could say a little bit less than

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Speaker 8: what we're seeing with these young guys. Okay, he wasn't

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Speaker 8: playing like period, Like regardless if he was not one

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Speaker 8: hundred percent healthy or whatever it was, his play was

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Speaker 8: not that much better than anybody else's played that we've

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Speaker 6: But I will say this, those guys that we're talking about,

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Speaker 6: the young guys that have gone in while Diggs has

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Speaker 6: been out, had the fortune of playing behind a much

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Speaker 6: better defensive line than what Diggs has seen the first

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Speaker 6: we both know we played in the secondary that that's

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Speaker 6: that's huge when you got up good pass rush and

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Speaker 6: somebody that can get the quarterback off the spot. Now,

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Speaker 6: these young guys they're playing well like they you know,

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Speaker 6: they're they're coming along, but in my opinion, their play

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Speaker 8: Can't prevent the techniques, it was Digg's technique up the park.

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Speaker 5: Technique.

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Speaker 7: But what are the coaches always say when your talent level,

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Speaker 7: you're gonna take a little bit more of this when

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Speaker 7: the other stuff starts to outweigh this and that, Like,

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Speaker 7: what are we gonna do.

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Speaker 5: We're not gonna put you out there.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not necessarily saying headaches on and off the field,

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Speaker 7: is as far as him, what everybody knows he said

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Speaker 7: out there in the media, like saying, hey, maybe we

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Speaker 7: need to switch it up from the car the.

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Speaker 5: Calls being so long to being short and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: You have a young dog that is just as comparable,

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Speaker 7: if not play better. Because some of those guys have

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Speaker 7: TfL who nobody has caught a pick?

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Speaker 3: Who like corner wise, who's caught a pick?

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Speaker 7: We are our safety that I make a mistake on that?

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Speaker 7: Did I make a mistake on that?

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about second beliefs?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So but still they may play, So I have

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm trying to get, Like, what are

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Speaker 3: these plays like? That's what I'm like. These guys are

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Speaker 3: haven't seen they doing these things? But what that's what

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Speaker 7: They've been doing they're younger, the mouth doesn't come with it,

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Speaker 7: and you're cheaper, so why not play him early?

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Speaker 3: But he's talking about the proof.

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Speaker 5: That's what is the proof? That essence to all this?

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Speaker 5: What is the essences.

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Speaker 7: That, Hey, when we did have you in there, when

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Speaker 7: get out there, what do we all say, don't get

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Speaker 7: out there and put yourself in the bad light. The

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Speaker 7: terms you've been out there, it's been bombs over bag.

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Speaker 3: That everybody in that secondary.

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Speaker 6: It's not everybody in that secondary has been bombs over

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Speaker 7: But we've also seen that secondary be good and only

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Speaker 7: one piece really changed on that you got rid of

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Speaker 5: He's not out there no more. The is aren't out there.

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Speaker 7: But then hey, we have seen that other rotation and

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Speaker 7: foundation they look good.

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Speaker 3: Bridges and bland, those are your interceptors. And so what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying is when the.

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Speaker 4: Kiggs had an interception, but it got called back on

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Speaker 4: a defensive play. But Bland's got to pick and Bridges

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Speaker 4: got one. And so those are your those are your corners.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about.

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Speaker 8: We're talking about something that we all know is not

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Speaker 8: what the situation is here. If it was just based

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Speaker 8: off of skill and talent, he would be out there. Okay,

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Speaker 8: So like we could stop probaving that argument, period.

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Speaker 6: But we mean, but unless we know for certain what

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Speaker 6: it is, how can we bring that to the table.

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Speaker 5: I'm not bringing I'm not bringing that to the table.

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Speaker 5: I'm bringing it.

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Speaker 7: What I'm bringing is when you come to the players

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Speaker 7: long this is how we have our talks in the

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Speaker 7: locker room. And it's like we didn't bring it to

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Speaker 7: the table the coaches.

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Speaker 4: But he's asking, oh, yeah, no, show me this proof

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Speaker 4: that you're talking about.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, as a player, I don't what you coming

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Speaker 7: back off injury, and I don't know that you're completely

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Speaker 7: healthy just strictly on the field wise, Hey, we got

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Speaker 7: some moments right now, do not shift this culture.

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Speaker 4: And so once again he's asking you for the proof

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Speaker 4: that these other players are better. I'll give you an

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Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Yeah, some of your stuff I don't like.

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Speaker 4: Get it consistent and cleaned up. But they gonna need

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Speaker 3: They can say, hey, bro, they won three games without him.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, And don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: That's three and then the fourth game came and they

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Speaker 3: How many games does he played in? He ain't played

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, right now, at this point

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Speaker 8: If I thing what Revel was this, He hasn't played

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Speaker 3: Now true, who church you one hundred percent correct?

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Speaker 8: The boyd improved that he's probably the best corner of

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Speaker 3: Okay, but this is a what have you done for

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Speaker 8: This is true, all right, And from what he's been

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Speaker 8: Then when he did get on the field, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then.

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Speaker 8: Obviously whatever he's done or whatever they've seen.

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Speaker 4: No, they've clearly got some type of they feel some

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the Vikings are coming to town here. The

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Speaker 4: to have to pay up for dinner. Bett's that's two

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Speaker 3: Turnover margin.

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Speaker 12: The Cowboys are twenty ninth yep, Vikings up there. The

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Speaker 12: up there, brother, what's their record?

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Speaker 3: Telling me their record again? That's cool.

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Speaker 5: I'm not cheering for them.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying I just I'm encouraged by my dinner.

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Speaker 7: My little brother, Isaiah Rodgers played for the Vikings. He

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Speaker 7: six on this year. What you're talking about?

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Speaker 3: You said they up there.

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Speaker 5: All I know is what my little brother.

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Speaker 7: I bet you, Hey, I bet you Isaiah Rogers COMMARTI

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Speaker 5: You want to look up the numbers?

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Speaker 3: You go ahead.

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Speaker 7: What first player in NFL history to have a pick six,

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Speaker 7: a kickoff return and the fumble recovery in one game?

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Speaker 5: Okay, busy this year? That happened this year.

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Speaker 3: How many weeks has been playing?

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Speaker 5: It don't matter.

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Speaker 7: It don't matter how many years of the NFL been

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Speaker 5: No, because he's been doing this multiple games. But I apologize.

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Speaker 3: God, and then you go. But he's still been doing it,

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Speaker 5: Got his numbers. I said he did. I didn't say

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Speaker 7: I said I thought that getting busy, And I said, hey,

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Speaker 7: Now just because you come back now, you're just trying

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Speaker 3: Because I would to know what you balled up with?

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Speaker 5: After that, I said, he got busy? So what you said?

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Speaker 5: I thought? I thought the vicers.

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Speaker 3: Got you got busy one week?

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Speaker 2: Second?

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Speaker 5: Now he you know, Isaiah got busy multiple weeks.

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Speaker 3: What what what other weeks?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 7: What can we talk about the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Are we talking about the Cowboys again? Yeah? This is

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Speaker 7: Turnover margin? Turnover margin twenty nine to thirty one.

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Speaker 5: So it's closer. Okay, Now what.

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Speaker 8: A lot of teams that have his have historically done

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Speaker 6: This is Tree, So what's the true Russell? Russell turned

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So when it comes to the offense here, they're they're

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Speaker 3: One point five a game. It's been hurt this year thirtieth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, giveaways, nobody turns the ball over more than the

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Speaker 5: Take advantage of it. They got to.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to sacks, they're giving up the third

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Speaker 4: The Vikings are fourteenth to fifty nine percent offensively.

447
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Speaker 6: But they got the skill then't want to not because

448
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 6: they got the skill positions.

449
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: The receivers, the tight ends, the backs.

450
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 6: Offensive line is god awful, but skill position wise, they can.

451
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 3: Play with anybody.

452
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 13: Quarterback player, quarterback Yeah, Sam Darnold last year to JJ

453
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 13: McCarthy this year is just you know, their quarterback play

454
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 13: has hurt them and we can see that Justin Jefferson

455
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 13: has been limited by the quarterback.

456
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Speaker 6: Wow, he has because he's obviously one of the best

457
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 6: receivers in the National Football League.

458
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Speaker 4: No offense, tray, but your guy he's had he's had

459
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 4: two good games. But he's had a lot rougher games

460
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: than he's had a good game. And he's still a

461
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: young player. This is true, still a young player.

462
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: You could still be correct about JJ McCarthy.

463
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 5: Maybe, but right now for this yeah, for the season, Yeah,

464
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 5: he didn't do that. He had injuries and whatever.

465
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 7: Like you said, he has a god awful offensive line,

466
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 7: so who knows what he had to do.

467
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Speaker 5: But I'll tell.

468
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: You, George Pickens before he got here.

469
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Speaker 7: Ain't gonna let this get derailed because I heard that

470
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 7: little jab that you just did. Because I'm gonna point

471
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 7: out this fact. Caleb Williams had a trash offensive line,

472
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 7: but guess what it look what he's doing this year.

473
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 7: Sudden he's reinventing itself. So there is still time for

474
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 7: JJ to do that. With you said, but it's not

475
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 7: going to do that, right, get it?

476
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Speaker 3: Compare him to the first pick in the draft.

477
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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to compare a first rounder to another

478
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 5: first rounder. Yes, I'm going to.

479
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 7: Compare another guy that had high ceilings and did trash

480
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 7: because his offensive line, and now that he has a

481
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 7: defensive line he's doing better. I'm going to compare that

482
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 7: same guy to another first round pick that is trash

483
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 7: right now because he has a trash offensive line and

484
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 7: he has the potential to grow.

485
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: So yes, oh JJ, but he could, he could, but this.

486
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 5: Year he ain't doing it.

487
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 7: But like like Ad said earlier, people have their best

488
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 7: game against the Cowboys, and with the weapons that they

489
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 7: have in the star power, don't let it be a

490
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 7: game where JJ McCarthy gets streaky and all of a

491
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 7: sudden it might be another Donut out there and him

492
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 7: putting up numbers with J because justin Jefferson, all you

493
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 7: got to do is get the ball in his hands

494
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 7: and it's gonna it's gonna be magic soul, we'll see.

495
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 5: That's what makes it dangerous.

496
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: Quick shift. It is the only way to judge this

497
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: season of success. If they m I.

498
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Speaker 5: Go first, I can get it. I will say no, because.

499
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Speaker 7: When you lost Micaeh, everybody said that it wasn't going

500
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 7: to be there with the success that they have had

501
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 7: laid into the season, and we all know, yes, you're

502
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 7: at a certain point, you're playing for Cancun, but you're

503
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 7: playing for next year, coming in there having that confidence saying, man,

504
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 7: we were only this play away. Now that we got

505
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 7: these guys that we added on defense. I know we're

506
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 7: going to get better this offseason. So I don't think

507
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 7: this is the season to define its success off playoffs.

508
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 5: No, you can't say that.

509
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

510
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 6: I don't think just going to the playoffs makes this

511
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Speaker 6: a successful season.

512
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: Now.

513
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 6: You know, Greg got some some things going on the side,

514
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 6: like come on wins. But I do believe that this

515
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 6: team has the right building blocks going forward to where

516
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 6: they can have some success in the future. You've got foundation,

517
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 6: like my boy Trey said, the foundation I think.

518
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 3: Is there going forward.

519
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 6: You've got you know, deep pieces on that defense, especially

520
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 6: the interior defensive line that you can build around. You know,

521
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 6: if as long as over shown Sales stays healthy, I

522
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 6: believe he's gonna keep progressing as a player. On the

523
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 6: second level, you know, the secondary, you're gonna have to

524
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 6: find some pieces, whether it's in the safeties or the corners,

525
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to find some more pieces out there,

526
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 6: because as we've seen this year, secondary just hasn't been

527
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 6: as consistent as what you know we've seen in past years.

528
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 6: So then you're gonna have to find some pieces over there.

529
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 6: But offensively, when you look at it, you got all

530
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 6: the stable pieces. I mean, I believe you're gonna you know,

531
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Speaker 6: get healthier on the offensive line. You got some great

532
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 6: pieces there, and if they're able to keep George, I mean,

533
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 6: you got a dynamic duo that's that could take over

534
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 6: the league for the next you know, foreseeable future. So

535
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 6: I do believe you have the building blocks going forward.

536
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: It would love to get to the wins and make

537
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 6: the playoffs, but I don't think that's necessary to say,

538
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 6: you know what, we got what we need going especially

539
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: with the coach as well.

540
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's starting to build that whole culture here.

541
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 8: You know, I don't want to agree, but I am

542
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 8: definitely going to agree, all right, because, like one of

543
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 8: the things about it, anytime you have a shift and coaches,

544
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 8: you know, and I think that with this team, it

545
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 8: is still kind of a young team with some of

546
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 8: the players that are on there, it's hard to really say,

547
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 8: you know, like first year in here, you're supposed to

548
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 8: do this, like there's gonna be some transition period, play calling,

549
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 8: new terminology, just getting used to a new head coach,

550
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 8: his energy and everything else like that. Now, would it

551
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 8: have been an awesome situation if it could have happened. Yeah,

552
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 8: but I think that being the first year coach and

553
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 8: everything that happened, he definitely has a great period of

554
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 8: at least a year to try to get there, you

555
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 8: know what I mean. So but just like both of

556
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 8: you said, moving forward, offensively, I mean they got some

557
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 8: They got one of the best offenses in the league,

558
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 8: you know, so structurally when you look at it, being

559
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 8: the way the defense has played, and they had a

560
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 8: few good games here recently, but outside of that, it

561
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 8: hasn't been ready. So we know that it doesn't matter

562
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 8: if you get into the playoffs without a defense, it ain't.

563
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: Gonna benefit you at all. You just got there, all right.

564
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 8: If you want to get there, you want to get

565
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 8: there and you want to go through there, and without

566
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 8: a defense, it wasn't gonna help them. So they got

567
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 8: some grace time this year. And like you guys said, no,

568
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 8: it's not all bad because we've actually seen some positive

569
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Speaker 8: need What.

570
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Speaker 7: You think.

571
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Speaker 6: I was going to ask a d because you've been

572
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Speaker 6: to the to the pinnacle, You've been this two super bowls, right,

573
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 6: So like what when you guys were, you know, going

574
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: through your season or whatever the case may be.

575
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Speaker 3: You know what kind of galvanized y'all to go on

576
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: that run. Okay. So this is something that I like,

577
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought it up. Okay.

578
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 8: So when you look at the structure of the offense,

579
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 8: like the offense is clicking, right.

580
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: So one of the things and in each Team.

581
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 8: East defense that I was a part of, we we

582
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 8: took accountability amongst ourselves.

583
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

584
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 8: So we already know like habits, good habits create good tendencies. Okay,

585
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 8: So once you leave the building, you don't know what

586
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 8: anybody is doing once they get out this building. Okay,

587
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 8: you don't know if they're watching their video. Actually, you

588
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 8: don't know if they're taking care of the body anything.

589
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 8: So what we did amongst ourselves on both of these

590
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 8: defenses that I went to the Soup Bowl with, we

591
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 8: stayed in the building longer than anybody did.

592
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: Okay.

593
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 8: So when practice was over, we got together as a

594
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 8: defensive unit and watched a game together almost every day,

595
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 8: all right, just the defensive snaps, and put ourselves on

596
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 8: every play into the defenses that we ran. So as

597
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 8: we're watching this video, guys could talk we chopping it up.

598
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: You seeing where you fit on film and everything else.

599
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 8: Already, So there has to be some level of accountability there.

600
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 8: And like I'm telling you, like the first okay, Steve

601
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 8: McNair and Eddie George, Okay, that was that was part

602
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 8: of that. We was a wildcard team. You know, here's

603
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 8: a city miracle. Okay, all right, So like you already

604
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 8: know what that was like. But here with rich Gannon

605
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 8: rich is out there, MVP of the league. He's he's balling.

606
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 8: That offense was clicking on all cylinders, you know what

607
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 8: I mean. And we didn't have a lot of big

608
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 8: name people on defense. Shite, we had as whistling, but

609
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 8: you didn't you didn't see like a bunch of all

610
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 8: pros at every position.

611
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: It was just like man manning up man manning up here.

612
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 8: And so, like I said, like the the the situation

613
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 8: that we did, we made sure that hey, you gonna

614
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 8: know everything, and we're gonna make sure you know it, okay,

615
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 8: And it's not about you figuring it out outside the building.

616
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 8: We're gonna make sure that we're in here together, we're communicating,

617
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 8: we're understanding this.

618
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's what's going on with them.

619
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Speaker 8: If like after the after the practice is over, I

620
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 8: don't know if they're going in there as a defensive unit,

621
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, with the middle linebacker calling

622
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 8: the place, and were walking through the going through everything,

623
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And so I think that

624
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 8: if that was the case, we would have seen less

625
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 8: communication problems, we would have seen better fits, okay, And

626
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 8: we were seeing all these different things coming into fruition.

627
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 8: So that in itself, and then not to mention, like

628
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 8: I played with some dogs. I played with some dogs,

629
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 8: all right, No, no, And so like I told you

630
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 8: that here with Callahan, we actually had to have that

631
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 8: team meeting with no coaches involved, Okay, And a lot

632
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 8: of times when that happened, you.

633
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: See Miami happen. Miami did it.

634
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 8: It ain't do nothing for him, you know, we had

635
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 8: And it's about having the right vets in the right

636
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 8: leadership in the room too as well.

637
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: And for as much as we see these players here, the.

638
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 8: Leadership seemed like it came a little bit later. You

639
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 8: got Kenny Clark a little bit later. Who's quinn came

640
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 8: in here on the defense leading a little bit later.

641
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: I just think that like.

642
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 8: There was no true identity on this defense, and so

643
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 8: as it as the season goes on.

644
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: It's coming together.

645
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 7: Now.

646
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: So you had the Cowboys winning ten games? Did you

647
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: had the Cowboys win how many this year?

648
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: I said, I believe? I said, was it seven? It's

649
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 5: seven and the possible? It was something that impossible.

650
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: I was seven and the possible undertan I remember that.

651
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: Okay, So they're pretty much trending outside of you church trending. Yeah,

652
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: but we thought they're trending that way, trending that way.

653
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: So they've got six wins. Now you win three or four,

654
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: that's nine. You're miss the playoffs four or four.

655
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: You know, miss the playoffs.

656
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 6: That's a good point you brought up with the having

657
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 6: the right voice in the right leadership in position.

658
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's huge, man. And you're not gonna make

659
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

660
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 14: Now.

661
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: The one thing that will most likely happen, you'll finish

662
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: better in the division that you thought because pretty much

663
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: you thought it was gonna be Philadelphia Washington two teams

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Speaker 4: and played the NFC Championship game, and you'll you'll be

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Speaker 3: Daniels has still got problems.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna play this week, so you'll probably so

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Speaker 4: that the metric is going to be pretty interesting to

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Speaker 4: see where it is. Uh, And then we made these

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Speaker 4: predictions before they ran. So some some of this stuff,

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Speaker 4: how do you measure it? Because there's ways where you

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Speaker 4: can definitely look and say management up top did not

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Speaker 4: exactly help out the coaching staff and and so so

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Speaker 4: there's it's a lot, then it's a lot there how

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Speaker 8: You know what's wild about that too, though, is because

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Speaker 8: they were, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: But that's the stock market.

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Speaker 4: It's like the stock market based it on last year's

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Speaker 3: Who had Carolina playing as well?

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Speaker 4: Who had Chicago with a new head coach coming out here,

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Speaker 4: you know, balling like that Mike Rabel. I thought Mike

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Speaker 8: My point being this though, like so if we would

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Speaker 8: have had the forethought to see that ahead of time,

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Speaker 8: would you.

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Speaker 3: Just still no?

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Speaker 4: Because the defense was still bad? Okay when they started

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Speaker 4: out here? What level, the defense gave you any security.

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Speaker 4: We looked at all three levels and then it was

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Speaker 3: So uh, it's a problem.

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Speaker 4: two games is a lot. And then then their NFC

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to think that that was the best mob movie.

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Speaker 10: Good.

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Speaker 5: They have some good ones.

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Speaker 5: Good was good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good move, good movie.

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Speaker 4: But but see, even if you're thinking of those movies,

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Speaker 3: And then of course the acting, Look look at the actor.

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Speaker 3: Look who they had in there too. That was a

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Speaker 4: He's about Robert Duvall, one of the great character actors

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Speaker 3: Robert Duvall is a fantastic actor. Hey, then Duval played

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Speaker 3: that's Paul Newman. Oh yeah, Colors. Colors was Devall and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So in case you didn't know who, you know, I

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Speaker 3: people seeing Colors appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Robert Deval, Yes, yeah, he played the cock there. Robert

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Speaker 8: Rocky and she was you know your boyd and did

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Speaker 8: the independent film too. I got one under my belt,

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Speaker 7: Low budget and to be worthy. Yeah, but yeah, better

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Speaker 3: I got It's called Losing Faith. Y'all look for it

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Speaker 5: Everybody want to get shout out man of many talents. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Smooth, can we go that? It's a funny movie to y'all?

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Speaker 5: He acts, He related to everybody like I just want

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Speaker 5: to be like him.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: My dad told me, what what what streaming?

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Speaker 5: Check it out? Is that one of them?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's streaming, it's no.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere, did you check out the Stuart Scott thirty thirty

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Speaker 5: I did?

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Speaker 6: I did not, and I didn't realize it was I

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Speaker 6: ESPN two and kind of Stuart Scott was like kind

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Speaker 6: Keith Ober Yeah. Yeah, and then he ended up going

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Speaker 3: But I had no idea. Man, he was man, a

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Speaker 15: Man.

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Speaker 8: a regular I.

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Speaker 5: See what you tried to throw that. I had him

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Speaker 3: Stuart Scott like, yeah, no, like he is that guy.

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Speaker 5: He he is and was so so exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It was.

886
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 7: It was.

887
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: It was really fun for me to watch because Stewart

888
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 4: started in play. I My first job was in Florence,

889
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: Marto B South Carolina. He worked at fifteen at South Cames.

890
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: I worked out thirteen. But Stu's older than me by

891
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: about four or five years, and so I would go

892
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: these places that Stuart already went, and so South Carolina,

893
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: oh yeah, boom. Then he was in wr L t

894
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: V up and Raleigh and he was Carolina guy too,

895
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: So you know, so you see these places where Stut

896
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: had been. And I remember when he started ESPN two,

897
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: I was working in Austin, like, oh man, look at that.

898
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: So there were very few black people at the time.

899
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: Eric Clemens people forget about Eric Clems, but Eric Clemens

900
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: Darksian brother was an ESPN for a while. And then

901
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: you had Mike Cherico and you had John Saunders and

902
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 4: Stu came in there with with with a different way.

903
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: And to watch Stu do it and when they talk

904
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: of that documentary about what he went through when you

905
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 4: do it your way, I know, the phone calls when

906
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: he said, oh yeah, I got that phone call, hurt that,

907
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: you know it, and so stude for Stu to go

908
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 4: through it and what he did was just really awesome

909
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 4: that he laid it for other people because other people

910
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: would lady for him. And then that response, you know,

911
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: he had Stu felt the responsibility and he would help

912
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: other people and that was a good thing about him.

913
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: Which was also upsetting yesterday was I watch Charone Moore

914
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: set his career on fire. Up all the people who

915
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: you were letting down, people who laid foundations to allow

916
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: you to get this type of job job, and.

917
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: That you do something that's just so so selfish. Michigan

918
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: had coached right and well in football.

919
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: In football, you know you you had to want Howard

920
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: there before in basketball, but just when when God, just

921
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: so people understand when you're a coach of a program,

922
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: when you go everybody else go to So one of

923
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: my boys, Van Malone, was the assistant Van assistant head

924
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: coach at Kansas State. He was there with Chris Climbing.

925
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: Chris Climbing retires. They not have a job anymore because

926
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Colin Klein has coming.

927
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: Here own people.

928
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: Despite coaching with Colin Klein. He coached and coached together

929
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: the Case State before he went down to a and

930
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: m that job. And so all these people who Sharon

931
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: Wore was working with and Ford, they're out of jobs

932
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: and there ain't no job to get right now, people.

933
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 7: About to start getting hired. People already didn't got hired, people.

934
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: Have gotten higher.

935
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: So there may be one thing here, one thing there,

936
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 4: or maybe an NFL cycle. Maybe maybe somebody gets plucked

937
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: from college to get pro job. But that's the kind

938
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: of stuff where Mel Tucker's mel Tucker too when he was,

939
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: my gosh, what we doing?

940
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: But but the same do that whole thing.

941
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: Man.

942
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: You've got these people, man, that you were responsible for,

943
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: and so now what do they go? Their kids are

944
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: now wondering. You know, that's what we're gonna do. They

945
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: got moretgage, they got in the gas. These guys who

946
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 4: are needing these jobs and count I mean, I'm gonna

947
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: go get school in next sem.

948
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: It's awful. So so so their contracts are handled just

949
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: like he is. This is done well.

950
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: Depending on how your contract is set up. Yeah, maybe

951
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 4: you get to go home and not get paid, but

952
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, got no job. It's it's a very interesting thing.

953
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: But most of all, your life, the life you thought

954
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 4: you had at this point in time, as a coach,

955
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 4: you're believing and you're you're recruit.

956
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: You guys know, because you were all recruited.

957
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: You're right here, recruit you're thinking about twenty six and

958
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: they've got a poll game against Texas. Oh, by the way,

959
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: you got the portal, boy though, so you're already here. Indeed, man,

960
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: you and deep in the coaching thing. Last thing you're

961
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 4: thinking about is do I need to move?

962
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: Do I need to go?

963
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: Because I when you get to a place like Michigan,

964
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: you feel like you've made it as a coach assistant

965
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: gay man. With Michigan, they're getting good money. You're at

966
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: a good place. He still had a conch, he was

967
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: still under contract and now it's all gone.

968
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: And then he did it did.

969
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 7: And when you think about that, and it's like, we're

970
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 7: not gonna be the dead horse. You already know what's there,

971
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 7: but like take it the stuff further, like not just

972
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 7: the coaches and stuff like that. You got to think

973
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 7: about the assistance, like the recruiting coordinator if it's a female,

974
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 7: Like all those people on staff are going out there,

975
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 7: and like I didn't reach out to people to where

976
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 7: it's like they're nervous because not only with everything that's

977
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 7: going on right there, they just announced this morning that

978
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 7: they're bringing in outside private investigators they already investigated this

979
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 7: situation during the summer that's been reported about, so people thought,

980
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 7: you know, they were, they were in the clear. So

981
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 7: now that you have a private investigator coming, like he said,

982
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 7: typically with coaches changes, everything changes.

983
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 5: You might keep one person on staff, but with stuff

984
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: like this, everybody must go wow.

985
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: So it may filter to the A D or anybody

986
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: else too as well.

987
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: Huh, they got to hire a new coach, do you

988
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 7: want the same A D to hire to put that

989
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 7: put that guy in the in the place.

990
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 5: And like you said, it's all about your brand, right.

991
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 8: And then you say they had already was that you

992
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 8: or was that one of y'all said they had already

993
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 8: knew about it like a while ago, and they you

994
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 8: know they were.

995
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: There were accusations so late.

996
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 4: The latest reporting from a guy I trust who who's

997
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: written several books, I think was John Bacon, but he'd

998
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: said it was out there. They investigated both parties. The

999
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: coach and the staffer said nothing happen. But then the

1000
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: staffer went up to Michigan and said, here are the text,

1001
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: here's the proof. And then that's when they had what

1002
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 4: they needed to go ahead and fire.

1003
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: When you say Stafford. Are you talking the young lady?

1004
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, but the guy that he's talking about, he

1005
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 7: said that this morning actually literally driving in when we

1006
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 7: came in.

1007
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: He was on the radio.

1008
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 7: He's a long time reporter, just did a book and

1009
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 7: stuff like that, and so he's very connected to Yeah. Yeah,

1010
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 7: I've have had John on several shows in medical so

1011
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: he knows. But yes, and and but once again, all

1012
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 7: those people are in trouble. One of my one of

1013
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 7: my buddies, Willie Pile, former former corner here for the Cowboys,

1014
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 7: his son is going and signed with Michigan.

1015
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: Is he still signing with him or did he already sign?

1016
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 5: Because National Signing Day just as.

1017
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: He supposed to be going to ann Arbury a couple

1018
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: of weeks, he's he's he's going up in the first

1019
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: in January. He's going that's what he's supposed to do.

1020
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: So now they're in limbo. So my conversation to his mom,

1021
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: I was like, so you know, what were your other choices?

1022
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 4: They said, now with Oklahoma, and then it was Penn

1023
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: State with Franklin. But Franklin's now Virginia Tech. Really played

1024
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: at Virginia Tech, so they have to sit up here

1025
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: and look at their options because look at you don't

1026
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: know who's coming in. And that's why I say the

1027
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: part for me that's so upset I think about with

1028
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: Sharon Moore didn't so selfish is look what you now

1029
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: affecting people's lives.

1030
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 5: Man.

1031
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: These jobs are so coveted.

1032
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: Man, there's so rare opportunities, especially for black men, and

1033
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: for you to go out here and mess this thing up.

1034
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: And now we just look at see two brothers up

1035
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: here in Michigan State, that Michigan, and he's like, what

1036
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: have you done?

1037
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Stupid stuff?

1038
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: I hate to see.

1039
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm not I ain't trying to sit up here and

1040
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: say I no perfect man, because I ain't have my

1041
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: own issues and problems.

1042
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: But damn bruh, you worked your whole life for this

1043
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: and you set it on fire.

1044
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1045
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 8: He just made Harball and that because Harball basically spoon

1046
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 8: fed him.

1047
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 7: That.

1048
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, look at you started to look

1049
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 4: at all them dudes harballed and brought in there. Somebody

1050
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: be looking at him like they don't need to bring

1051
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: nobody else for history. That fruit ain't good, that fruit,

1052
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 4: that fruit be going spoiled on you. You had the

1053
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: Connor Stallion's dude cheating. They mentioned one guy with him

1054
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: out there. That guy got a show calls, so hey,

1055
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: we can bring him back to the court. No, I

1056
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: ain't about bringing him back. No, bro, you need to

1057
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: move on for them to. Hey, thank you appreciate the champions.

1058
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1059
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: I don't know how much investigating they really want to know?

1060
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: Keep finding out more, man, this thing is dirty. I

1061
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 4: heard John Gruden wanted to get back into John Groove

1062
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 4: do anything right. He's want to be on TV, wants

1063
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: to talking.

1064
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: You Grooden hater.

1065
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: Me and Keyshan had many conversations the show, right, you know,

1066
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: said got Trey Moore, that's very church. I'm new distress.

1067
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 4: This has been the players Loud.

1068
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: There we go stick.

1069
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: Around for the medium, ash lead on.

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