1
00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode thirty seven of The

2
00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory podcast. I am your host, Brad Roland, coming

3
00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400
Speaker 1: to you on the evening of June thirtieth. It is

4
00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,800
Speaker 1: basically July, and I'm joined on today's podcast as I

5
00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,360
Speaker 1: always am, by Scott Coleman. Scott, we're halfway home at

6
00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,920
Speaker 1: this point in time. There's been a lot of baseball,

7
00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,120
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more baseball to come.

8
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,240
Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, that is right. We are at the midway point,

9
00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know it's been It has been a

10
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,519
Speaker 2: conflicting first half. It is probably how I would if

11
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,519
Speaker 2: somebody were to say, what do you think of the

12
00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,159
Speaker 2: season so far?

13
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 1: Scott? It's conflicting. Overall.

14
00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,160
Speaker 2: They're playing pretty well. We have some numbers here, we're

15
00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,360
Speaker 2: gonna break down where they've been this year compared to

16
00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,600
Speaker 2: prior years, but have also been just so many crushing

17
00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,200
Speaker 2: injuries and the frustrations with the offense. But at the

18
00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,399
Speaker 2: end of the day, they're still winning more games than

19
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,920
Speaker 2: not and they're comfortably in the playoffs. So I guess

20
00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,000
Speaker 2: it's too hard to be too upset right now.

21
00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to agree with that framing. You know,

22
00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,520
Speaker 1: they're on pace for fewer wins than they usually are

23
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,440
Speaker 1: at this point in time, and we'll get into more

24
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,640
Speaker 1: of what that is and sort of the big picture,

25
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,520
Speaker 1: but I think that's that's right. They're obviously projected comfortably

26
00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,400
Speaker 1: as a playoff team right now, which is not where

27
00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,080
Speaker 1: anybody wanted to be necessarily. I think the division being

28
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,720
Speaker 1: where it is has colored some other perceptions and all

29
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that pretty long swoon they had to

30
00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,119
Speaker 1: not give everybody the greatest vibes in the world. But still,

31
00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,600
Speaker 1: big picture, it's been a pretty solid enough opening to

32
00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,120
Speaker 1: the year. We should say at the top of the podcast,

33
00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,560
Speaker 1: I know we have some new listeners. I'm sure we

34
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480
Speaker 1: always do. We are, of course at the end of

35
00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,680
Speaker 1: June and heading into ju Live, but this is our

36
00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,000
Speaker 1: first season as part of the foul Territory network of podcasts,

37
00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,400
Speaker 1: and we hope that you will stick around and check

38
00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 1: it out the entire podcast network at foul Territory, including

39
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480
Speaker 1: the flagship show at Faila Territory and in addition to

40
00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Daughter's Territory, Nor Side Territory, etc. Please subscribe to this

41
00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,919
Speaker 1: podcast anywhere you find podcasts, especially places like Apple and Spotify, overcast,

42
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 1: et cetera. Please leave five star ratings and reviews and

43
00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,040
Speaker 1: crucially tell your friends about the pod. Also an organic

44
00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,959
Speaker 1: plug here for my guy, Scott Colan, my co host

45
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,040
Speaker 1: on this podcast. You Did, You Did? Honestly was a

46
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,840
Speaker 1: great interview. I told you that offline so I could

47
00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,360
Speaker 1: say it online as well. A great interview on Friday

48
00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,919
Speaker 1: with Brandon Gordon, the television voice of the Braves. Lots

49
00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,480
Speaker 1: of interesting stuff on that. I definitely recommend people listening

50
00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,440
Speaker 1: to that because while it's a couple of days old now,

51
00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 1: I know he called the game this morning, yes, this

52
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320
Speaker 1: morning on Roku, but Brandon was awesome in that interview.

53
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,320
Speaker 1: He did a great job as well.

54
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. And you know, I'll say this,

55
00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,840
Speaker 2: Brandon is as genuine as he comes off on television.

56
00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,959
Speaker 2: Really a good guy. I had never talked to him

57
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,200
Speaker 2: other than a couple of messages on Twitter, but just

58
00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,360
Speaker 2: a really good dude.

59
00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,880
Speaker 1: The Braves.

60
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,200
Speaker 2: You're in great hands with him in the booth and

61
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,200
Speaker 2: really a fun interview. He's just natural. Obviously he talks

62
00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,720
Speaker 2: for a living, but some of the stories he has

63
00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,080
Speaker 2: and his deep connections to the Braves, he is very

64
00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,680
Speaker 2: much a Braves fan first and foremost, and when he

65
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,280
Speaker 2: says he is living the dream getting to call the

66
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,519
Speaker 2: Braves every single night, he means it. I think he's

67
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,040
Speaker 2: one of the best in the game and really would

68
00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,960
Speaker 2: encourage folks. If you missed it on it was kind

69
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,240
Speaker 2: of an uncommon time slot on Friday.

70
00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:25,640
Speaker 1: We did it.

71
00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,640
Speaker 2: It was like a mid Friday drop in kind of

72
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,720
Speaker 2: a surprise fashion. So if he did miss it, be

73
00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,680
Speaker 2: sure to check that out. Brandon had a lot of

74
00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 2: good insight as well into the team.

75
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 1: Listen, when you can get Brent and God on the show,

76
00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,840
Speaker 1: you do it. Whenever he asked to whatever you possibly can,

77
00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280
Speaker 1: we do it. If it had been midnight on Saturday,

78
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 1: we would have done it. And I do appreciate you

79
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240
Speaker 1: doing that, Scott and folks, doule listen to that for sure.

80
00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,120
Speaker 1: With that out of the way, also, we did our

81
00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320
Speaker 1: normal shows last week, great stuff from Steven and Sean,

82
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. We won't cover a ton of

83
00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600
Speaker 1: early in the week performance with the Braves on this podcast.

84
00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 1: They did win the weekend series against the Pirates. We'll

85
00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,680
Speaker 1: talk about that more in a second. We started talked

86
00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,400
Speaker 1: around it already, but the Braves are not played eighty

87
00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 1: two games exactly, which is one more than half of

88
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,320
Speaker 1: the schedule. I know there's always the thing I make

89
00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,320
Speaker 1: fun of each and every year about the first half

90
00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,400
Speaker 1: second half, splits about the All Star break, whereas the

91
00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,360
Speaker 1: first half is actually now which basicallycludes another week and

92
00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,799
Speaker 1: a half or so it's the All Star break. But alas,

93
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,040
Speaker 1: here we are a good time to kind of talk

94
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,400
Speaker 1: about where they are. And you actually saw something on

95
00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,039
Speaker 1: Twitter that I want you to lead off with here

96
00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680
Speaker 1: because it was very instructive about kind of the recent

97
00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,360
Speaker 1: history during this Braves divisional title run and it's still

98
00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 1: ongoing until it's broken, about how they perform in the

99
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,839
Speaker 1: first eighty one games the last few years.

100
00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought a little perspective going back to twenty

101
00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,680
Speaker 2: eighteen would be beneficial, and our good pal Braves America

102
00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,400
Speaker 2: on Twitter, who his first name is Dayton, a great follow,

103
00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,919
Speaker 2: had some really good numbers. So these are the number

104
00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,320
Speaker 2: of wins the Braves have had at the halfway point

105
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,839
Speaker 2: dating back to twenty eighteen in the start of the

106
00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,680
Speaker 2: division run. This year forty six wins, last year fifty four,

107
00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,040
Speaker 2: which spoiler is significantly higher than all the rest. So again,

108
00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,240
Speaker 2: forty six wins this year, fifty four last, but then

109
00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 2: forty seven in twenty twenty two, only forty in twenty

110
00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200
Speaker 2: twenty one, and spoiler alert, Brad they went on to

111
00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,000
Speaker 2: win the World Series that year, did they? I remember it?

112
00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,320
Speaker 1: Well?

113
00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,200
Speaker 2: We did a lot of podcasts. You might have remembered

114
00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,960
Speaker 2: doing like forty podcasts in a month.

115
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,919
Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy.

116
00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,080
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty. Of course, the shortened season, they had eighteen

117
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,640
Speaker 2: wins at the midway point, which equates out to about

118
00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 2: forty eight over the course if they were playing the

119
00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,560
Speaker 2: full season, forty eight wins again in twenty nineteen and

120
00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,640
Speaker 2: forty seven in twenty eighteen. That is, of course, a

121
00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,799
Speaker 2: lot of numbers. The easy math is over the last

122
00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,599
Speaker 2: seven years, the Braves have averaged forty seven point one

123
00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,600
Speaker 2: wins come midway point, and they're at forty six this season.

124
00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,599
Speaker 2: They're pretty close to what they've been averaging. Of course,

125
00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,920
Speaker 2: the very obvious difference this year is that the Phillies

126
00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,719
Speaker 2: are really good, and for the first time in a while,

127
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,080
Speaker 2: the Braves are significantly back as we hit the midway

128
00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,840
Speaker 2: point right, and that.

129
00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,159
Speaker 1: Is part of this. Of course, Folks will remember that

130
00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,080
Speaker 1: the Braves did chase the Mets down not too long

131
00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,880
Speaker 1: ago in a divisional race that was memorable, and they

132
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,440
Speaker 1: had even a bigger deficit than this in that race,

133
00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,080
Speaker 1: which you can't always just big on that happening. I'll say,

134
00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's obviously the division is far from over.

135
00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920
Speaker 1: The Brads could get really hot, the Phillies could cool off.

136
00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,200
Speaker 1: But I think it is fair say, as we've said

137
00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,240
Speaker 1: before on this podcast, that the Phillies are the clear

138
00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,599
Speaker 1: favorite to win the National League East and break the

139
00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,719
Speaker 1: Braves run consecutive titles in the division. Again, favorite, not

140
00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,159
Speaker 1: lock by any means, but the Braves are still in

141
00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,599
Speaker 1: a good spot for the division. As we're talking right now.

142
00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200
Speaker 1: At the end of Sunday's slate, the Braves are eight

143
00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,640
Speaker 1: back of the Phillies. I'll pill battle there, but there

144
00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,960
Speaker 1: are also three games ahead of the entire wild card

145
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,000
Speaker 1: field right now, and another couple more games beyond that

146
00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,400
Speaker 1: from missing the playoffs. So if the Braves just do

147
00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,400
Speaker 1: what they did in the first half, as as let's

148
00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960
Speaker 1: just say, mind numbing or maddening, whatever word you want

149
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,520
Speaker 1: to use, as this first half has been in some respects,

150
00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,280
Speaker 1: if the Braves simply replicate the first half they will

151
00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,520
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. I feel absolutely one hundred percent

152
00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,320
Speaker 1: confident about that.

153
00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760
Speaker 2: Well, and it helps that the rest of the National

154
00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,240
Speaker 2: League is very pedestrian. Outside of the top four, I

155
00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,000
Speaker 2: think there's a clear top four, and then both Saint

156
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Louis and San Diego have turned it on in recent weeks,

157
00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440
Speaker 2: and there's a little bit of a gap forming in

158
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880
Speaker 2: the wildcard race with those three clubs. But at the

159
00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,160
Speaker 2: end of the day, man, it's if the Phillies weren't

160
00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,080
Speaker 2: doing great, I think we'd be in a much better

161
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,080
Speaker 2: mindset and headspace. But the Phillies are a really good team,

162
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,920
Speaker 2: and eight games back with eighty games to go not impossible.

163
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,320
Speaker 2: The Braves still have nine or ten games head to

164
00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,080
Speaker 2: head against Philadelphia, including this upcoming weekend at Truest, which

165
00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,080
Speaker 2: is going to be a very important series for the

166
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,440
Speaker 2: Braves as we near the All Star break. But I

167
00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,119
Speaker 2: think it is becoming more and more apparent every single

168
00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,680
Speaker 2: year with the expands playoffs, it really does not matter

169
00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,760
Speaker 2: what your seed is, what your home field is, how

170
00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720
Speaker 2: you're playing going into the playoffs. It is so random.

171
00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960
Speaker 2: Get into the dance and try to get hot for

172
00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,640
Speaker 2: a month and at the end of the day. I mean,

173
00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000
Speaker 2: there's no greater example than the Diamondbacks and the Rangers

174
00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 2: getting in Last year. The Diamondbacks had a negative run

175
00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 2: differential and played horribly in September, they sneak in, they

176
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,920
Speaker 2: get to the World Series, and the Rangers were really

177
00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,960
Speaker 2: good early, then were awful for about two months, figured

178
00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,840
Speaker 2: some things out in September, and then went on to

179
00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,840
Speaker 2: win it all. Of course, those teams are a combined

180
00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,640
Speaker 2: nine games below five hundred this season. If you need

181
00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,200
Speaker 2: any more evidence, that is truly. I know people don't

182
00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,040
Speaker 2: love it, but if you need any more evidence, I

183
00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,240
Speaker 2: don't love it. Yeah, yeah, it is, for better or worse.

184
00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,880
Speaker 2: The playoffs are very much a crapshoot. That is baseball

185
00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,000
Speaker 2: kind of is what it is. And Shore I would

186
00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,920
Speaker 2: love for the Braves to be the one seed and

187
00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,320
Speaker 2: win the East for what eighth year in a row,

188
00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,120
Speaker 2: seventh year in a row, But we will see what

189
00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,080
Speaker 2: the next few months hold.

190
00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna try my best. I'm trying to sort

191
00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,439
Speaker 1: of censor right now about my rants about the expanded playoffs. Scott,

192
00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,239
Speaker 1: I know you feel it coming through the screen. I'm

193
00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,040
Speaker 1: feeling it, but I'm not going to do it right now.

194
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,680
Speaker 1: I was just say, if you're a new listener, I

195
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,520
Speaker 1: don't like the expanded playoffs, but alas, your point is

196
00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920
Speaker 1: a great one there. And if you want an example

197
00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,560
Speaker 1: close to home, We've said this many times, but there

198
00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,040
Speaker 1: was no metric you could use to say that the

199
00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 1: Braves in twenty twenty one was their best team of

200
00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,839
Speaker 1: this run. In fact, it was probably one of their

201
00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,679
Speaker 1: worst teams of this run, and that's the one that

202
00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,280
Speaker 1: won the World Series. So there's a nice little internal

203
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,440
Speaker 1: example of how this is supposed to work as well

204
00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,600
Speaker 1: at this point in time. So we'll leave it there.

205
00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,760
Speaker 1: That's sort of a good check in at the almost

206
00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,560
Speaker 1: exact midway point. I guess we could have done a

207
00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,680
Speaker 1: show late last night. We decided not to do that.

208
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,840
Speaker 1: But here we are on Sunday evening, a two games in,

209
00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,439
Speaker 1: and that's why the Braves are after the first half,

210
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,079
Speaker 1: the actual first half of the season. All Right, we'll

211
00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,560
Speaker 1: have some talk about this weekend's performances from the Braves Friday,

212
00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,560
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. But first of working more partners on

213
00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,520
Speaker 1: today's podcast, Okay, Scott, let us dive into the weekend.

214
00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,240
Speaker 1: A couple of wins on Friday and Saturday much more

215
00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,160
Speaker 1: upbeat than the loss on a Sunday Friday's game. You

216
00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,880
Speaker 1: know where I'm going first, but we can hold off,

217
00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,960
Speaker 1: feel like if you want to. It was a six

218
00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,800
Speaker 1: to one victory for the Braves to start things off

219
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,440
Speaker 1: in at positive fashings. I guess the team, of course,

220
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,480
Speaker 1: that they are pretty solidly better than in Pittsburgh.

221
00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 2: I was going to say, Brad, you usually steer the

222
00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,319
Speaker 2: boat on these, but I think come on Friday, let

223
00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,719
Speaker 2: me ask you who pitched on Friday night?

224
00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 1: A couple a couple of old guys, especially one particular

225
00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,199
Speaker 1: old guy who started the game. His name is Charlie Morton.

226
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,959
Speaker 2: Do you like Charlie Morton?

227
00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: I am known to have some level of affection for

228
00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,960
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton, at least more than the average consumer at

229
00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,600
Speaker 1: Braves Baseball.

230
00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you tell everyone how Charlie pitched on Friday?

231
00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,800
Speaker 1: What a hosting job by Scott colmb right there. Uh, No,

232
00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560
Speaker 1: Chuck was awesome on Friday, you know, great on a

233
00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960
Speaker 1: curve on some level facing the Pirates. I'll grant you that.

234
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,760
Speaker 1: But six and a third innings, three hits, no runs,

235
00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,320
Speaker 1: one walks to strikeouts. It was the good Charlie. I

236
00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,280
Speaker 1: don't believe that he paid off your usual game on

237
00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,839
Speaker 1: Friday night, Scott, that that did not happen.

238
00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760
Speaker 2: I believe that it was a lot of controversy, actually,

239
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,120
Speaker 2: Brad go ahead, A lot of controversy a first inning

240
00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,200
Speaker 2: hit by pitch from Charlie. But it was a fastball and.

241
00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,040
Speaker 1: Curveball, folks, that's part of the game.

242
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,480
Speaker 2: It was extensive.

243
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,840
Speaker 1: I had a lot of folks.

244
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,560
Speaker 2: Reach out to me, thank you, shout out to you all.

245
00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,000
Speaker 2: You are the real ones. After official review, it had

246
00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,120
Speaker 2: to be a curveball based on the letter of the law.

247
00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,920
Speaker 2: So we did not have a winner on Friday night.

248
00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,360
Speaker 2: No backfoot curves for Charlie. But no, I mean, in

249
00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,880
Speaker 2: all seriousness, we're joking around. Charlie was very good on

250
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,120
Speaker 2: Friday night. He had his command back, which is something

251
00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,840
Speaker 2: that had escaped him in recent starts. Only one walk,

252
00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,600
Speaker 2: no runs, seven strikeouts. It was probably the best Charlie

253
00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,600
Speaker 2: has looked in some time and really encouraging for him.

254
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,400
Speaker 2: Let's hope this kind of gets him on the right path.

255
00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,880
Speaker 2: He talked at length with Ken Rosenthal last weekend about

256
00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,439
Speaker 2: how frustrated he was and he just hadn't been able

257
00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280
Speaker 2: to find any kind of consistency on the mound. Let's

258
00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,400
Speaker 2: hope this is just kind of a not a wake

259
00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,040
Speaker 2: up call, but just a big step in the right

260
00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 2: direction for Charlie.

261
00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you plugged that, and I was really

262
00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,959
Speaker 1: good insight from Charlie through the lens of our I

263
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,480
Speaker 1: guess our teammate Ken Rosen fall over at foul Territory.

264
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely been jekyling hide. Even as the

265
00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,280
Speaker 1: Charlie advocate, I would admit that it's not always been

266
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty this year. But I will say he's a fifteen

267
00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,560
Speaker 1: starts this year. He has allowed two runs or fewer

268
00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,280
Speaker 1: in nine of those fifteen starts. Pretty good. I gotta

269
00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920
Speaker 1: say that's kind of what you would ask for from

270
00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,520
Speaker 1: Charlie through the first half of a season. As we've

271
00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,160
Speaker 1: already lad out earlier, he's on pace for about one

272
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,040
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy innings with an era that begins with

273
00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 1: a three. And if that's all you knew, Scott, you

274
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,600
Speaker 1: would be pretty excited about that. I know we always

275
00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,040
Speaker 1: try to talk about what Charlie is, but an era

276
00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,880
Speaker 1: is not everything. I will'll be the first to say that,

277
00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,280
Speaker 1: but his peripherals look fine too, Like he's just pitching

278
00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880
Speaker 1: like a very solid mid rotation guy. Not the guy

279
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,800
Speaker 1: he was three years ago, but certainly someone that has

280
00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,640
Speaker 1: been pitching pretty well he has.

281
00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,520
Speaker 2: And another cool nugget from Friday Night. So Charlie goes

282
00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,560
Speaker 2: six and a third leaves in the seventh inning for

283
00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,679
Speaker 2: Jesse Chavez. And first of all, Jesse Chavez has a

284
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,040
Speaker 2: one point three to two era, which I mean defies

285
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,800
Speaker 2: every bit of logic. It is unbelievable watching him do

286
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,120
Speaker 2: what he does. And secondly, I can only imagine in

287
00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,800
Speaker 2: the history of baseball how many times a forty year

288
00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,280
Speaker 2: old starting pitcher has given way to a forty year

289
00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,840
Speaker 2: old reliever. Really cool to see those guys both doing

290
00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,600
Speaker 2: it at a high level and just a testament to

291
00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,880
Speaker 2: their work ethic and just honestly their bodies holding up

292
00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,360
Speaker 2: into their forties is just something so few players have

293
00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,040
Speaker 2: a chance to do.

294
00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160
Speaker 1: That's right, I have a quiz for you while we're here.

295
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,120
Speaker 1: It's not fair to you whatsoever, but you do have

296
00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,920
Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance of getting it right. Do you

297
00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,760
Speaker 1: know who's older between Charlie and Jesse. I believe Jesse

298
00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,560
Speaker 1: is that is correct about three months. They are the

299
00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,880
Speaker 1: same numerical age, but Jess was born in August, Charlie November.

300
00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a pretty crazy z back to back there.

301
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure you've been privy to this, Scott,

302
00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,480
Speaker 1: as someone who does not live in the city of Atlanta.

303
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,440
Speaker 1: There is a movement of sorts to get Jesse elected

304
00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,679
Speaker 1: to the All Star Game. And by elected, I mean

305
00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,080
Speaker 1: as a pitcher you don't get you don't get to vote.

306
00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,679
Speaker 1: If there was fan voting, I think you actually you

307
00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,360
Speaker 1: actually might get in.

308
00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, oh you know, the Braves fans would stuff

309
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 2: the ballots for Jesse.

310
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,680
Speaker 1: They would.

311
00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,720
Speaker 2: It would be very very cool for him to go.

312
00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,760
Speaker 2: He is kind of the complete opposite of who generally

313
00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,120
Speaker 2: gets into the All Star Game. Not a closer, obviously

314
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,560
Speaker 2: not a starter, but I think Jesse's story is so

315
00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,400
Speaker 2: known at this point, maybe Major League Baseball get him

316
00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 2: in there. There are always a couple of pitchers who

317
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,120
Speaker 2: pull out because of injury or because they pitched the

318
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,920
Speaker 2: day before won't have a chance to appear, so it

319
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,720
Speaker 2: is not impossible, and I would hope that the Braves

320
00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,560
Speaker 2: are campaigning with the League to get Jesse there, because

321
00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,080
Speaker 2: that would just be such a cool story.

322
00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,960
Speaker 1: And we've all talked about at nauseum. But while we're here,

323
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Chavez has a career era of about four point two,

324
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,520
Speaker 1: which is not used to really fine. His career era

325
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,480
Speaker 1: with the Braves is two point seven to seven, and

326
00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,800
Speaker 1: it's actually in the in the ones the last two

327
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,880
Speaker 1: years combined. I think if you go to the last

328
00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,200
Speaker 1: three years combined in Atlanta, it still might be in

329
00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,080
Speaker 1: the ones. It's certainly not not far above too. So

330
00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,760
Speaker 1: he has been ludicrously good. And yeah, there's probably a

331
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,480
Speaker 1: little bit of luck involved, but hey, it's whatever's working

332
00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,920
Speaker 1: for Jesse to keep it wrolling. Please.

333
00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and the beauty is Jesse Chavez is not

334
00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,440
Speaker 2: having to throw super high leverage innings for this bullpen.

335
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,760
Speaker 2: He is probably option number seven in the group right now,

336
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,880
Speaker 2: and that's where Jesse Chavez should be. He's just such

337
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,160
Speaker 2: a likable guy. I know he is beloved by his

338
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 2: teammates and in the clubhouse really cool. And one last

339
00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,920
Speaker 2: note on Charlie Morton here before we talk about the

340
00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,040
Speaker 2: offense a little bit. Charlie Morton beat the Pirates on

341
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,280
Speaker 2: Friday Night, which means he has now wins over all

342
00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,360
Speaker 2: thirty Major League teams. Pittsburgh, who he was with for years.

343
00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,240
Speaker 2: Of course, actually after the Braves trade, Charlie had never

344
00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,640
Speaker 2: beaten Pittsburgh, but he beat them on front, which means

345
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,800
Speaker 2: he is one of four active pitchers in baseball I have,

346
00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120
Speaker 2: one is Justin Burlander, one is Max Scherzer, and of

347
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,760
Speaker 2: course I am going to forget the fourth. But nonetheless,

348
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 2: a very very cool club for Charlie to join.

349
00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,040
Speaker 1: Is it Kershaw or something? I don't know, I'm just doing.

350
00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably Kershaw has happy idea, if that's right.

351
00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm totally guessing about like legendary pitchers. That was not

352
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 2: a sourced guess by me, but yeah, Kershaw is a

353
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,000
Speaker 2: good guess. I'm sure there's someone obvious we're forgetting, but regardless,

354
00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean Max Suers or Justin Berlander. You talk about

355
00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,440
Speaker 2: guys bound for Cooperstown one day. Yeah, really, really a

356
00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,960
Speaker 2: tip of the captain, Charlie and a nice performance on Friday,

357
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840
Speaker 2: because it was not only a good pitching performance but

358
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,200
Speaker 2: really the only game in the series where the bats

359
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:42,680
Speaker 2: were alive.

360
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, good way to point to that at this point.

361
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Roley homers in the second ending. There

362
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,280
Speaker 1: was a big third ending as well. That was kind

363
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,920
Speaker 1: of the biggest inning of the weekend by a wide margin,

364
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600
Speaker 1: I think, with five runs in the third. They had

365
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,440
Speaker 1: fourteen hits in the game on the way to six runs.

366
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,560
Speaker 1: Adam Duval showed some life. As we'll get into a

367
00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,800
Speaker 1: second again with Saturday, everyone in the lineup other than

368
00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,280
Speaker 1: Narcia had a hit in the game and they got

369
00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,920
Speaker 1: shot out on Thursday. If you wanted to be a

370
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,320
Speaker 1: little bit grim, as we might do later on in

371
00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,040
Speaker 1: the show, you could look the last four games talk

372
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,320
Speaker 1: about how bad the oufits has been. But Friday was

373
00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,200
Speaker 1: the exception of the rule. There on a comfortable win,

374
00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,080
Speaker 1: and you can't have clever win without good pitching, and

375
00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,480
Speaker 1: that's the headliner. But the offense did more than enough

376
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,320
Speaker 1: to make it more comfortable in that game. Yeah.

377
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,879
Speaker 2: Really, throughout the whole game, the Braves did a good

378
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,960
Speaker 2: job of getting on base fourteen hits and walks combined

379
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 2: as a team, a big basis clearing double from Marcelo Zuna,

380
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,600
Speaker 2: who has kind of quietly gone into a little bit

381
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,240
Speaker 2: of a slump for the first time all season. Yeah,

382
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,560
Speaker 2: and I mean that is not a shot at Marcel,

383
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,080
Speaker 2: to be clear, and this guy has been unbelievable all

384
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,640
Speaker 2: year long, and inevitably he was going to cool down

385
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. I noticed that Pittsburgh in particular, just

386
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,320
Speaker 2: peppered him with sliders and a lot of sliders off

387
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 2: the plate, So inevitably Marcel was going to cool down

388
00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,520
Speaker 2: a bit. His numbers on the season are still fantastic,

389
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 2: but you know, Friday night was a fun one. We

390
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 2: knew there was going to be an excellent pitching matchup

391
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and then we knew the podcast curse was

392
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,640
Speaker 2: probably going to be alive and well on Sunday. But

393
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 2: a nice, a nice win on Friday, to be sure,

394
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,800
Speaker 2: especially after a pretty disheartening and I mean, let's just

395
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,199
Speaker 2: call it what it is, an awful loss to the

396
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 2: White Sox on Thursday.

397
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was covered in grave detail by Steven and

398
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 1: Sewn on the podcast. If you missed that, one wants

399
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080
Speaker 1: to relive it, going to listen to that podcast. But

400
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 1: Azi bridged a Saturday you mentioned a Zuna who has

401
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 1: been struggling recently, and he's earned one. It's fine. He's

402
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,320
Speaker 1: been awesome this year. He had two absolute rockets on Saturday.

403
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,199
Speaker 1: They were both double plays. I think over like one

404
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 1: hundred and five miles an hour on both of them,

405
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,120
Speaker 1: and they were It's hard to have two double plays

406
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,119
Speaker 1: hit hit that hard on the same game. So it's like,

407
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,680
Speaker 1: it's not like he's had his night in the ball hard,

408
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 1: just that he had a little bit of bad luck

409
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 1: over the weekend. But the headliner, certainly on Saturday was

410
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,680
Speaker 1: the Freed versus Skemes matchup. It definitely was really good.

411
00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that either of them were there absolutely

412
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,199
Speaker 1: in the game, which might sound crazy when it was

413
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, it was one to one or one nothing

414
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 1: for a long time in the game. But what did

415
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: you make of that? And you know, we're not a

416
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 1: pirate's podcast, but Skeens is pretty ridiculous.

417
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there wasn't a bat where he threw

418
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 2: a ninety eight fastball on the outer corner and then

419
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 2: a ninety two splitter on the outer corner, and it's

420
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 2: just like, what are you supposed to do when you're

421
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 2: down O two? I mean, I forget who was in

422
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: the box, but you could have told the hitter what

423
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 2: was coming and he would have had no chance. He's

424
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: just he lived up to the billing. And you know,

425
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 2: I thought Brandon Goddon on the interview had a lot

426
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 2: of really great things to say about Max Freed and

427
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 2: a chance for him to pitch on a national stage,

428
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 2: and he was equally as good. Maybe as you said,

429
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 2: maybe not his a oneself that both the Pirates and

430
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 2: the Braves had quite a few base runners, they just

431
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: didn't do a whole lot with them. But you know,

432
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: Max did his job, only one run over six innings,

433
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 2: handed it over the bullpen, and thankfully the Braves were

434
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 2: able to come across in the tenth and win a

435
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 2: man football game.

436
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't love those, but a last that happened,

437
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, Max is really solid. I think we might

438
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: have thought that it was going to be kind of

439
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 1: easier when Jared Kellnick homer to lead off the game

440
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: and that was the only run against Skens Kelnic because

441
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: I think people probably know by now has been really

442
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: really good for a while now. I pulled this number,

443
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 1: I think today in the last calendar month, basically the

444
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: month of June, I think he has an ops in

445
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: like eight ninety nine, so nine hundred or so, and

446
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: it's been even better than that since the mid month

447
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: injuries and all that stuff, the loss of Harris. I

448
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: think he's even had like a thousand ops in the

449
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. The breakout is here. You don't

450
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: want to over state it, I'll say with Kelnick and

451
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: like assuming this is going to be this forever, but

452
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: the talent has always been there, and we talked about

453
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: him a lot recently, but it's worth noting again home

454
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: run on Saturday. If just the numbers have been fantastic

455
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: for a while now.

456
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 2: And just the way that Kelnick has stepped up since

457
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 2: not only Ronald went down, but since Michael Harris went

458
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 2: down as well. You need players to step up up

459
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: when your superstars go down. And obviously they're going to

460
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: get Michael Harris back at some point, but man, they

461
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: really needed one of the outfielders to start hitting without

462
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: those two, those two stars in center field and right field,

463
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: Kelnick's been great. I love him in the leadoff spot.

464
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: Even when Michael Harris comes back in a couple of weeks,

465
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 2: I think Kelnick is going to stay in that leadoff spot.

466
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of folks ask questions about it.

467
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: If he's doing this, then, if he's doing this, he's

468
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: not leaving the spot like say that right, Yeah. Yeah,

469
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: And even though he's fast, Michael Harris is not your

470
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: prototypical leadoff hitter. Be on base is not great. He

471
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 2: doesn't walk a lot. He's not a high on base

472
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: percentage guy. So yeah, I mean, I think Kelnick is

473
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: until something changes dramatically, and it may never change. To

474
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: be honest, I think Kelnick is pretty locked into that

475
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 2: top spot in the lineup.

476
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Unless he cools off violently, he'll

477
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: be sticking around there for quite some time. I thought

478
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: it was actually a couple of interesting defensive or run

479
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: prevention plays that we should note. There was a real

480
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: nice catch by to the ball at the wall in

481
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: the sixth That was a nice moment, of course, before

482
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: his walk off hit, which is probably the headliner for

483
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: Adam's night on Saturday. But the play that Darneault and

484
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: Hernandez made in the tenth I'll let you describe it

485
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: because I think you wrote down the description and our podcast.

486
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: That was a big one, considering that there's no margin

487
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: for air in extra innings.

488
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a heads up play if folks missed the

489
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: game on Saturday. A wild pitch from day's Bell, Hernandez

490
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: got over the head of Travis Darnault, but thankfully the

491
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: ball bounced right back to Travis. He made a really

492
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: nice quick flip Today's Bell, who very instinctively made it

493
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 2: directly to the plate. I mean, there was no delay

494
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: from that wild pitch being thrown to him breaking towards

495
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: the plate, catches it tags the runner on the helmet,

496
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: and it was a big break for the Braves because

497
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: the slide from whoever was running for Pittsburgh was just

498
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: kind of an awkward one yep is the back of

499
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: his cleat hit the ground first and caused his foot

500
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: to bounce up. That's something that actually happened to a

501
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: Braves runner a few years ago. I don't remember why

502
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: I were bridge so well. It was just kind of

503
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: bad luck and something that happens in the heat of

504
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: the moment. But replay review got it right, which was encouraging.

505
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a long replay either, Brad. It was

506
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: like one of those twenty five second nope overturned. So

507
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: really a nice execution there from Dave's Bell, who has

508
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: been really good in the bullpen. We're going to talk

509
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: about a couple of injury updates, and Dave's bell was

510
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: actually optioned to Gwinnett on Sunday afternoon to make way

511
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: for Ajaminter But you know, he's been really good. And

512
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: for the Braves to get out of the tenth with

513
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: no run scored and then give Adam Duvall a chance

514
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: to have a nice moment the way he has been

515
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: struggling lately, it was really a nice way to win

516
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: on Saturday afternoon.

517
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: Strongly agree. We will leave it there for now. We'll

518
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: talk about Sunday, which is again a little bit less

519
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: exciting for the Braves in a second of First War

520
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: more partners on the podcast. Okay, Scott, let's knock out

521
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Sunday's game, which was a four to two loss, not

522
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: the worst loss I've ever seen, to be optimistic, it

523
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: wasn't as bad as Thursday, for example. But let's talk

524
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: about Schwallenbach for a second, because I think he's kind

525
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: of made a believer out of some of us, including me,

526
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: I think, including you on some level. He was pretty

527
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: on good for a while on Sunday afternoon, I should

528
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: say Sunday morning, I guess, especially for you out on

529
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: the West coast. But it got away from him a

530
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: little bit, maybe a lot of bit in the fifth inning.

531
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: So what do you make of the entire experience there?

532
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: Obviously the numbers don't look fantastic overall, but it really

533
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: is a closer look is like he's he's pretty good

534
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: the first time through, second time through is okay, and

535
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: then after that it's kind of ugly.

536
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I am on an island here. I don't think

537
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: I am, but maybe I'm on an island. But I

538
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: am very bullish on Spencer Swallenbach, And I mean, the

539
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: stuff is really good up until the fifth inning unraveled.

540
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: He was looking at four and two thirds innings, only

541
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: three hits, one walk, and seven strikeouts. I mean, it

542
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: looked like he was on the verge of his best

543
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: start today and then a span of eight pitches the

544
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: game just kind of tumbled on it. Yeah, and that

545
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: is a theme for Spencer. He's been really good the

546
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: first time through, he's been pretty good the second time

547
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: through the order, but the third time has been very

548
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: much an issue. His era was over twelve and that

549
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: was before today, so it's probably twenty.

550
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Small sample size, But of course it is very intuitive

551
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: for people that don't know this just to say it

552
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: out loud, it's the general consensus is that it's harder

553
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: to pitch third time through the order because teams have

554
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: seen you twice, especially if you're a young guy who's

555
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: not done this a lot. And the numbers are Look,

556
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: you can't expect it to be this extreme, but they are.

557
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: They're making him pay when he stays in the game.

558
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: And I really think with Schwellenbach it is just a

559
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: matter of him learning how to pitch at this high level.

560
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: And just for a reminder, he only made two starts

561
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: above high a ball before being called up. Two brad

562
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: he threw thirteen innings with Mississippi before the Braves called

563
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: him up to the major leagues and zero and with

564
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: just as a reminder, zero whate yes. And he was

565
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: another guy who, in I believe twenty twenty one, he

566
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: was the second round pick of the Braves and he

567
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: had Tommy John very early, so he didn't make his

568
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: professional debut until twenty twenty three. So you're talking about

569
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: a player who has such little experience pitching professionally. The

570
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: stuff is really impressive. Every time Schwellenbach has gone out there,

571
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: I say to myself, Okay, this kid has the stuff

572
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: to be an effective big league starter. He's still just

573
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: learning how to attack and what to do when you

574
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: get ahead O two and how to nibble on the

575
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: corners without getting beat, and how to throw effective waist

576
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: pitches and everything you have to do to be a

577
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: pitcher at the very highest level. I really am encouraged.

578
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: And it's just a bummer that seemingly in every start

579
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: he has had one inning that has kind of skewed

580
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: everything else, because I mean he was shoving the first

581
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: three or four innings today and he just made a

582
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: couple of mistakes to really two of the good hitters

583
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh's lineup, and before you knew it, a one

584
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: nothing lead was a four to one defis it?

585
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I am with you on that. I think ISAA podcast.

586
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: We're a little bit higher on sill and block then most,

587
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: and he's not perfect at this point, but there's a

588
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of polished there that I'm intrigued by, and I

589
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: kind of believe in him. I think the Braves kind

590
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: of do too, based on what they've said and it's

591
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: sort of their actions in recent days. The offense was

592
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: not very good again, which is probably more important in

593
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: that particular loss than Schwann Black was our guy. Steven

594
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: had this stat basically. Of course, they scored five runs

595
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: in the third inning on Fridays we talked about a

596
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: second ago. The rest of the last four games they

597
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: scored five runs total. So ten runs in four games

598
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: is not good anyway, but it's especially bad when five

599
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: of those runs are winning of those four games. So

600
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: it's not like the dark times. You're back from where

601
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: it was like a six week power outage, but hopefully

602
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be the case before. But these four

603
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: games were kind of reminiscent of that of that stretch.

604
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: You know, It's just it is tough for the Braves

605
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: to score consistently when the bottom half of the lineup

606
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: is effectively a zero.

607
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, especially because you know you mentioned it earlier,

608
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: we should just say this too. In addition to a

609
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: Zuna being cooled off, Matt Olsen's slop right now too.

610
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I think kind of people were too late to realize

611
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: that Olsen had broken out of his early season slump.

612
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: It is actually pretty good for a long while. I

613
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: think right now it's a kind of quiet how bad

614
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: he's been for a few weeks or a couple of

615
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: weeks at least. So you know, if you just say

616
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Ozuna and Olsen are both struggling at the same time,

617
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and then you get to what you just said with

618
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: the bottom of the order, you know, name your three guys,

619
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: but most of the time it is Arcia and two

620
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: other guys who are not impressive, whether it's Wall or

621
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: whether it's Williams do balls and struggling like that, three

622
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: out of the out of those four or five guys

623
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: is a pretty dismal at the botto of the York.

624
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's brutal, Brad. These at bats are

625
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: tough to watch. I mean, Orlando Arcia had a chance

626
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: on Sunday to come through runners on the corners with

627
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: only one out and struck out on the ball. No,

628
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: we're even close to the plate, and it was like,

629
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, how much longer? Adam Duval a great

630
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: human being by everyone's account, but he has been so

631
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: so bad this year, especially against right handed pitching. No

632
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: hate to Forest Wall, but he's a twenty eight year

633
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: old minor league journeyman. Yeah, that is who he is,

634
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: and he is not known for his bat even when

635
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: he's like he actually has some major leage skills, but

636
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: his bat's not supposed to be one of them. Yes,

637
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: he is a specialty pinch runner and late inning defensive replacement,

638
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: but he has never really hit at any point in

639
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: the minors. He is up out of sheer necessity right

640
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: now because of the Braves' injury situation. Hopefully Ramon Loriano

641
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: is back early this week. He has missed the last

642
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: three or four games with some lower back issues, so

643
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: let's hope he's back. I've been encouraged by Loreano, but again, Brad,

644
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you just see that Arcia Duval wall grouping

645
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the order and it's like, oh

646
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: my gosh, these are bats are not major league quality.

647
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Duvall had a couple of miles this weekend that

648
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: were relatively encourage and I hold out hope there. I

649
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: know there are some of us that were sharing some

650
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: Adam Duval stats over the weekend, and his expected stats

651
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: are way better than his actual stats this year, which

652
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I know that some there's a portion of artists that

653
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: will definitely roll their eyes, and I totally get that.

654
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: I think the underlying stuff is a little bit better

655
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: than the actual numbers, but still it's been rough, and

656
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time you and I literally

657
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: a week ago on the show on the Sunday Show

658
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: about RCA, So we won't do the entire thing again,

659
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: but I pulled this stat. It actually does not even

660
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: include today's game where he had a rough one again,

661
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: but in the previous sixty two games, so it's about

662
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: ten weeks or so worth of data. He has been

663
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: the worst qualified position player in all of Baju League

664
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: baseball by Fangrafts for the worst and that includes defense. Yikes,

665
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about that. So

666
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: that's not and look it's not a huge ample size.

667
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: That's almost a half a season. That's like ward percent

668
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: of a season, thirty five percent of season. Like if

669
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: it's not like it's a week that's ten weeks now.

670
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: We talked about Orlando in the shortstop position for what

671
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes last weekend. It was a lengthy conversation

672
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: and if folks miss that, our general takeaway is that

673
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: while Orlando plays a really solid defense, the bad is bad,

674
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: and the Braves might just prefer to take the zero

675
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: offensively and instead have his defense up the middle man

676
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: bra every time I watch, I think maybe they just

677
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: throw Nacho Alvarez out there and see what he can

678
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: do because it has been so bad. You just outlined

679
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: a negative probably a negative point eight war over sixty

680
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: two games. I mean that that is unplayable, and as

681
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: you noted, that that includes his defense. So there's only

682
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: so much you can withstand from a player before you

683
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: have to make a change of some kind. You know,

684
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: we also talked about Nacho and some of the limitations

685
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: or hesitations that folks who are smarter than we are

686
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: with the minor league system have shared. But man, I mean,

687
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: we might get to a breaking point where it's like,

688
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell, it can't be any worse.

689
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Let's make a change for three weeks and see what happens.

690
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, I would be thrilled and extremely curious

691
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: to know what goes on behind closed doors in the clubhouse.

692
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I still don't love that option, but if they

693
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: did it, I wouldn't throw a fit. Does that make sense?

694
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Is that a reasonable framing? Like I don't love it,

695
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: but I have a hard time criticizing it because of

696
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: just how bad URC has been it It gives us

697
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: no pleasure it's just that he's not hitting at all.

698
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: By the way, over that sample size it's a twenty

699
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: nine WRC plus league average is one hundred. So not

700
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: what you want anyway.

701
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: You know, we are, I mean to cutch off Brad.

702
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: We are a month exactly from the trade deadline. So

703
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: maybe some of the appeal of calling up Nacho Alvarez

704
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: is you would get a couple of weeks to see

705
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: what you maybe have with him before the trade deadline,

706
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: to decide what you're going to do with the position.

707
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what the Braves do, regardless of

708
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: what they decide to ultimately do with shortstop. You know,

709
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: I want Nacho to continue playing every single day, whether

710
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: it's in Gwinnett or it's in Atlanta. I don't want

711
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: to bring him up for a platoon or some kind

712
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: of weird situation where they aren't playing him at shortstop.

713
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: I know a few folks that mentioned maybe he could

714
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: play the outfield for a little while. I don't want

715
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: to do that. I would be firmly against it, actually,

716
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: But I think every single day, I think it becomes

717
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: louder and louder that even if Orlando is really steady

718
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: up the middle defensively, it might be time to make

719
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: a change.

720
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. And I know one thing about Snit

721
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: in particular, it's not his choice because he's not the

722
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: general manager. But Snid is very patient with guys that

723
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: he likes, and that includes Orlando. So we'll see how

724
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: at that packers in it at all. But we are

725
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: on the same page. It's been brutal for a while

726
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: and it's not changing at least it has it yet

727
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: quickly before we preview the up coming week and get

728
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: out of here. You teased it earlier, but Ajam Mentor

729
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: seems to be coming back on Tuesday. By all accounts,

730
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: the Braids are off on Monday. He pitched today in

731
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Guinette through an ending seem to be just fine, and

732
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: the Braves tip their hand a little bit, it seems,

733
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: by optioning Hernandez. Just to say this out loud, Hernandez

734
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: has been really good. He has literally a zero ERA

735
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: this year. But it's the cursive options, Scott. I know

736
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: we talked about us a lot in previous years, but

737
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: when only one or two guys have options in your bullpen,

738
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: they are the guys that inevitably gets set down.

739
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bummer for days Bell, whose performance is

740
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: no way indicative of him going back to the minors.

741
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like it was between Day's Bell

742
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: or Grant Holmes, who has been equally as good in

743
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: that role. And I think one thing that might give

744
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: Grant Holmes a little bit of an edge is that

745
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: he's able to cover multiple innings, which is something that

746
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Day's Bell probably can't do. But at the end of

747
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: the day, it's great to have aj back. It's great

748
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: to have Day's Bell waiting in Gwinette because at some

749
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: point the braves are going to call upon him again.

750
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: And I mean, you have to feel pretty good as

751
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: we hit the midway point with where the bullpen is.

752
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: Assuming everybody can stay healthy.

753
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Mitcher's obviously someone you can't just hold off.

754
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: If he's ready to go, He's ready to go, so

755
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: that's that's a plus. When he comes back in Rigima,

756
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: that will be on Tuesday. Nothing official we should note,

757
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: but that's the assumption of I think everyone I'll talk

758
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: to in the last few hours. Harris is getting closer.

759
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: He's been hitting, he's been throwing, he's up and running.

760
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Yet though he's been out for sixteen days at this

761
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: moment in time, obviously the Braves are instead of eyes

762
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: take their time there. I know it might see it

763
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: might not seem like it because they're in kind of

764
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: dire need of Michael Harris on the field. But Alex

765
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: has kind of alluded to this, like they know what

766
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: they have as a team and they're not going to

767
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: push guys, especially guys who are young and signed forever

768
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: like Michael Harris. They will be sure he's ready to

769
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: go when he comes back. But obviously it'll be nice

770
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: to have him back.

771
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: It will be great to have him back, especially defensively

772
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: in center field. You know, Kelnick has been fine. I mean, honestly,

773
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: he is. I think Kelnick has exceeded my expectations. I

774
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: know the first time he was in center field, I

775
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: was like, oh, man, that that's asking a lot for

776
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: a player who has basically never played it other than

777
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: occasionally in Seattle. But Klink's been fine out there defensively.

778
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: But you get Michael Harris back in maybe a few weeks.

779
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he's probably gonna come back just after the

780
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: All Star break. If I had to guess, I don't

781
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: have any sourcing on that, but just the timeline would

782
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: make sense. And then once you get Michael back in center,

783
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: you can shift Kelnick to left. Then you're really only

784
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: looking for one outfielder, and I think right now we

785
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: are really feeling to crunch, basically needing two outfielders every

786
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: single night. So it'll give Alex some time to evaluate,

787
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: and let's hope that they add an impact outfielder of

788
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: some kind. It may not be a superstar, but somebody

789
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: who does move the needle a little bit. Bonus points

790
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: if it would be someone who gets on base.

791
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: At a higher clip.

792
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: I think the Braves have plenty of slug or at

793
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: least they do, and the ball isn't dying at the

794
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: warning track every night, but some on base would be

795
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: terrific to add to this lineup because there's just not

796
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: a ton of that. There's not a ton of walks

797
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: happening right now. Yes, it would be nice to find

798
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: that player, and who knows if that player is even

799
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: going to exist, try deadline time. But nonetheless, it will

800
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: be great to have Michael Harris back in a couple

801
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: of weeks. He was encouraging to hear that he's been

802
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: hitting and throwing and I would imagine maybe within the

803
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: next week or so he'll start doing some light jogging

804
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: and running in the outfield.

805
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point about walks, just while we're here,

806
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: ou look at up while you were talking. This year

807
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: the Braves coming into today were twenty second in the

808
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: league in walk great last year, but last year they

809
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: were like only the middle of the pack. But and

810
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that's probably just not having Ronnie, who

811
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: walks a lot, but still like not been a lot

812
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: of patients at the play and look, Ozzie never walks,

813
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: Harris never walks, So like they have some guys that

814
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: just don't take walks. But still you want to be

815
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more patient than they've been so far

816
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: this year. Last injury thing, Ian Anderson made a rehab

817
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: start on Sunday in AUGUSTA looked fine. By all accounts,

818
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: He's getting closer. I don't know how close. People always

819
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: ask us. I don't know the answer there, nor do

820
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I know what they would do with Anderson when he

821
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: is ready. Like, okay, Scott, let's just say this hypothetical,

822
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: no prep from us. If Ian was ready to go

823
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: in five days, would you rather have him pitch or Swallenbach.

824
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Schwallenbach me too. Now, obviously that's a little bit of

825
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: maybe recentcy bias, and we like Swalla Bak too. But

826
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't think Ian's gonna be given a given a

827
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: rotation spot just because he's ready to pitch. I don't think.

828
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you will, maybe maybe we'll be wrong about this,

829
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: but I think it might take a little bit of

830
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: a falter. Maybe they go to sixth Pan rotition again.

831
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: That also just happened very recently, so that might happen again.

832
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: But Ian obviously is a big name, but I think

833
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: he's not quite the like, oh man, we're just kind

834
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: of the days down till he's ready to go. I'm

835
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure it's that.

836
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think looking at a timeline for Ian, you know,

837
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: today was his first real affiliate start. I know we

838
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: pitched down in the FCL a couple of days ago,

839
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: but a rehab start today with Augusta, which is a ball,

840
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: I would assume it's at least another month of rehab

841
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: for Ian Anderson before we even have a consideration for

842
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: a rotation spot. Of course, you're just hoping that his

843
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: health cooperates. The elbow doesn't start marketting sore. No setbacks otherwise,

844
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: but it is going to be interesting to see what

845
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: the Braves do this summer. You potentially could get Anderson back,

846
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: A J.

847
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Smith.

848
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: Shaver should be coming back at some point from the

849
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: oblique injury. Schwellenbach has been good. Bryce Elder has been fine.

850
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean he was not the reason the Braves lost

851
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago in Saint Louis. It's because

852
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: the offense can't score. And then of course if there's

853
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: a trade deadline acquisition, then you're adding yet another arm

854
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: to the rotation on top of your big four. So

855
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: there's some depth here. I'm always knocking on wood anytime

856
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: you talk about pitching depth, because you blink and it

857
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: goes goodbye very quickly. But as we get into early July,

858
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: it is something I would imagine the front office is

859
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: starting to think about a little bit for sure.

860
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: And that's one of the pillars of our podcast dating

861
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: back years, like we're you never want to just look

862
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: at the top five. It has your six, seven, eight, nine,

863
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: ten guys matter in over the course of a long season,

864
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: and you know, fillm all in there and eventually you're

865
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: gonna need all of them, and this year the Braves

866
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: fop it out very early with the Stritter injury. But

867
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: cycling through guys will be happening all the way through,

868
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: all the way through the season, I would imagine, and

869
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: that includes right now. Okay, before you get out here, Scott,

870
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: let's preview a little bit of the week ahead. We'll

871
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: save more of our deep dive Phillies preview. But the

872
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Phillies come to town Friday, Saturday, Sunday in a big

873
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: time showdown before the break, and everyone's focused on that,

874
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: and as they should. Before that, though, they have an

875
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: off day on Monday, and as you as you you

876
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: count it up, it is their final day off until

877
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: the All Star Break, so it's gonna be a lot

878
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: of baseball. Not that it wasn't a lot of baseball

879
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: this this week because there was that flurry of three

880
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: games in like twenty seven hours or something like that.

881
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: But they get a day off on Monday, and then

882
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: it's full steam ahead of the break.

883
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of baseball ahead.

884
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: You know.

885
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: It's it's a nine game, ten day home stand and

886
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: the Brave through two and one so far. I know

887
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: everybody wanted to win on Sunday and get the sweep.

888
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: But you'll take this Hereies win. You know, the Giants

889
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: are okay. They're actually beat the Dodgers this weekend in

890
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: a series. They're sub five hundred, they have a negative

891
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: run differential. Offensively, the Giants are pretty good. Actually, I

892
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: believe they're top twelve in WRC plus. But the pitching

893
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: has been pretty bad. You know, they went out and

894
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: signed Blake Snell very late and he has been a disaster.

895
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Now he's hurt in the rotation.

896
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: They only have really one good starter, whose Logan Webb,

897
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: Who's going to pitch one of the games. But they're

898
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: not a bad team. You know, if you told me

899
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: in two months that the Giants were going to be

900
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: very much in the hunt for a wildcard spot, it

901
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a surprise. They're pretty close right now. But

902
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: they are also not a great team, and frankly a

903
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: team that the Braves should win two out of three

904
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: against at home.

905
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that's the general projection I would

906
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: give a form a series, especially because the Braves have

907
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: scheduled right now anyway, as of Sunday, it's Lopez on Tuesday,

908
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: Sale on Wednesday, and more. Than on Thursday, Hapens. The

909
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: Braves had the pitching advantage in two of the three games.

910
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: The third one is Morton, who's just who's obviously pretty solid,

911
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: but that's against Webs, so that's their best pitcher. But

912
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: still that's a pretty good lineup for the Braves if

913
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: you look ahead. If that is the case, that means

914
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see swollenwalk against the Phillies. Don't well

915
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: that necessarily, but even if we like him, that might

916
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a challenge. But alas that's

917
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: a decent spot this week, and of course the day

918
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: off on Monday to kind of reset things after kind

919
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: of a frustrating last you know, three or four days.

920
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Even though they went too and two in the last

921
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: four days, it felt worse than that. I don't know

922
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: about you, kind of felt worse because the offense was

923
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: not it was not not much more, not much fun

924
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: to watch.

925
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: No, for a team that is ten games above five hundred,

926
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: it does not feel that way, like you know, I

927
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: know we talked about the midway point earlier in the pod.

928
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: If you would have asked me just blindly, if I

929
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: had no idea what the Braves record was, but I

930
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 2: could watch the games and and just not have any

931
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: recollection of wins and losses. I would have told you

932
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: they're closer to five hundred, just with some of the

933
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: offensive frustrations.

934
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: Maybe that it's just.

935
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: Me, but you know, here we are, Brad, right, We're

936
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: at the midway point, ten games above five hundred, eight

937
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: back of the division. You have a winnable series against

938
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: the Giants and then a very important three games at

939
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 2: home against the Phillies. The Phillies are without both Bryce

940
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: Harper and Kyle Schwarber, both of them are on the

941
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: injured list. It feels like about as important of a

942
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: series as you can play in early July. Not that

943
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 2: we are going to make any grand conclusions from three

944
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: games at this point in the year, but if the

945
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: Braves are going to make up ground in the East,

946
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: they have a really good opportunity ahead of them next weekend.

947
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all fair. I think that we did our

948
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: job on this podcast and being true to our brand

949
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: about trying to just say, look, the Brisban pretty good

950
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: this year, even if it doesn't feel like it. But

951
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you're right that it doesn't feel like it, and I

952
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: know what the reaction will be and you and I

953
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: are going to always for playing to talk later on

954
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: this week before the Philly series. I know what the

955
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: reaction will be if they don't win at least two

956
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: of those three games, and we'll see you know what

957
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like just because look, that's not unreasonable because

958
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: of the deficit they have right now. Like if they

959
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: were tied or the races were down by two games,

960
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: you and I would say in one hundred percent mean

961
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: that nothing, nothing, it wouldn't matter. But like no result

962
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: would like change the perception of the race. If you

963
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: go into the weekend down by eight and you lose

964
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: the series at home to the Phillies, it's gonna not

965
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: feel great. Yeah.

966
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Then then you're trying to make up a nine

967
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: or ten game deficit over three months effectively, and it's

968
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: not impossible. We saw the Braves do it two years

969
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: ago against the Mets. But I also think this Phillies

970
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: team is better than that Mets team. It's more sustainable,

971
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: they have a crazy run differential, and they've also Philadelphia

972
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: has also had some injuries and they just keep on

973
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 2: banging that drum. So I agree with everything you said.

974
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: It is, of course not It's not like they have

975
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: three must win games next weekend or anything like that,

976
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: but three important games and hopefully without Philadelphia being at

977
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, the Braves can win two of those

978
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: and just kind of keep chipping away at the division deficit.

979
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: That's the plan, or was the hope if you are

980
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: someone who supports the Atlanta Braves. But uh yeah, that's

981
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: it for us on today's podcast, I think, Scott, and

982
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: that's it for the month of June on this podcast.

983
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everybody, but definitely appreciate it, Scott. Anything

984
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: to plug as we head into the second half of

985
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: a season and also a new month of July.

986
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: Nothing to plug. Always nice to get one of these

987
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: in with you.

988
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Brad.

989
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: I hope everybody out there is doing well. A happy

990
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: early fourth of July, be nice holiday week. And uh yeah,

991
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: let's hope the Braves. I know they had a frustrating

992
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: game on Sunday, but let's hope they keep it rolling,

993
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: keep winning series, and man, if they can just score

994
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: some damn runs, Brad, I think it would do everybody

995
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: a world of good, everybody's mental health a world of

996
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: good if the Braves can score some runs and be

997
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: a little more consistent on offense. We'll be sure to

998
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: be back here soon on the show. Please, if you

999
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: don't already, please subscribe, download, tell a friend, and we'll

1000
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: do one of these again soon.

1001
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: Scott did my job for me until you subscribe to

1002
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: the podcast. One more plug for the Brandon Goden interview.

1003
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: Listen to that if you already missed, that would definitely

1004
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: encourage you. Catch up on that one, and we'll have

1005
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: much more coming up this week from myself, from Scott,

1006
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: from Stephen, from Sean. Stay tuned and we'll see you

1007
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: all next time.