1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: we've been trying to get to for almost thirty years. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Kami part broke the all time single game assist record. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: and the community we create. In each episode, we'll sit 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: down with athletes, political analysts, and culture critics because at 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the core of it all, how we see one issue 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: shines the light on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Carrie Champion. Hey, family, thank you so 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: much for tuning in to Naked Sports. I want to 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: get a little housekeeping out of the way. You all 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: know that we were nominated for an NAACP Award. Let 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: me get that out, an n DOUBACP Award for Best Podcast, Sports, 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Arts and Entertainment. That's a big category as opposed to 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: just best Sports Podcast. But we did not win. Oh 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: it's so disappointed, but I was really, really, and I 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: mean this from the bottom of my heart, truly honored 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: to be nominated and thought of. And on top of that, 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: I had a beautiful weekend, Awards weekend with the NAACP family. 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: There were so many different beautiful events and it just 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: felt good to be around the culture and honoring the culture. 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Everybody was moisturized, the melanin was popping. It was a very, 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: very beautiful week. We then did the Essence Awards. No, 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: well that's not true. We went to the Essence Black 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Women in Hollywood Brunch. I call it awards because you know, 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the sisters showing up. It wasn't a war though. We 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: were honoring luminaries within the culture and it was just 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: a wonderful week. And then as we wrap up the 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: week of awards and special dresses and gowns, there was 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: this crazy news that came across for everyone. I know 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you may have heard, and if you haven't, I'm here 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: to tell you about Angie Stone. She was killed in 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: a wreck. Apparently she was returning from a performance and 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: she was heading to Atlanta, that's home for her, and 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: the sprinter that she was in flipped over and was 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: hit by a big rig. I don't know the particulars. 42 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: It was just a few statements being released. Not much 43 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: information was available, and you can't trust everything you read 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: on the web, and so I really truly was shocked 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: to hear it. I woke up and I thought, Wow, 46 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: just another reminder of how precious life is. But it 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: also made me think about the last time we were 48 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: in conversation with Angie right here on this podcast, and 49 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: for me, this is a way to honor her memory 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: and really truly appreciate what she gave us in the culture. 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Some great music, some great stories, some good love songs, 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, some good love songs. And I wanted to 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: say thank you, Angie. I know I am sending nothing 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: but love and healing to your family, and may you 55 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: please rest in peace. Naked family join me and honoring 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: her memory by listening to this edition of Naked Sports. 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much, Andie, so thank you so 58 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: much for joining Naked I really appreciate this. It is 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: a podcast where I get to interview people that I admire, 60 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I enjoy, that are doing amazing things. And it just 61 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: so happens that you have most recently released I believe 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: it's your tenth solo album. I'm making sure it's the tenth. 63 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm wanting it great. Tell us about your latest project, 64 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and more importantly, congratulations. 65 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you first of all guys for having 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: this project is one that I really was not anticipating. However, 67 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: we did it, turned it around in a two week span, 68 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: worked very hard, very quick, very hard, and really you 69 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: know when we were. When I work under that kind 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 4: of pressure, that's kind of when the best stuff comes 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: out because you have no time to screw it up. 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: You got to get it right or you know. So, 73 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: I'll say, along with Candice Bathe, more Teak Underdo, Walter 74 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: Reel Sap, and quite a few other producers, we turned 75 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: out some really dope songs that make for a very 76 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: consistent album. So I'm in a good place with this project. 77 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh good for you, But I want to make sure 78 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: I heard you correctly. You turned it around in two weeks. 79 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: How does that happen? 80 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 5: Turn it? 81 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: And I could imagine you have a bevy of songs, 82 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: or you've written so much. I know that it might 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: just come now. 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 5: The sound that you hear is what we worked on. 85 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: Maybe two didn't make the project because we just ran 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: out of time and couldn't finish something. But we had 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: exactly two weeks my manager Fleu in town. We were 88 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: in the studio for upteen hours during one two songs 89 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: a night sometimes just to finish the album two weeks, 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: so it was a flat two weeks. 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: Wow, that's impressive. But you have very much created a 92 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: name for yourself in terms of who you've worked with 93 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: in this industry. You've written, you've you've been an actor, 94 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: You've had your solo projects that you were a part of. 95 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: From my understanding, the very first hip hop R and 96 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: B group in Sequence signed to sugar Hill. Tell me, 97 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, just go back to the genesis 98 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: of it all. Tell me about Sequence and how that 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: all came about. 100 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 4: My Sequence is myself, my partner, Blondie, and Charlott cearl 101 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: who were all high school friends in neighborhood, sisters that 102 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: hung out together, ended up going the club's part cheerleaders 103 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: did a lot of things together and as a result 104 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: of hanging out with you besties on a regular basis, 105 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: we started to create this stuff because as cheerleaders, we 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: were constantly writing rhymes and you know what was effectually 107 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: known as cheers back then turned into rap music. I 108 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: guess New York called it rap. We call it cheers 109 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: and competition. We won quite a few contests in South Carolina. 110 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: For having the best hiers. Our cheers were rhyme and 111 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: madic pretty much. 112 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: Yo was a song that we created that had a hook, 113 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: which was a melodic of chorus, and we add individual 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: raps to it, which coined the phrase. You know, y'all 115 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: could say R and B hip hop or how you 116 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: want to call it, but we added singing to hip 117 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: hop and as a result, it changed the narrative overall. 118 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: So as a result, I. 119 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: Believe that hip hop grew wings and I went to 120 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: the next generation as something that was getting stronger, growing bigger, 121 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: and spreading broader, and as a result, you know, it's 122 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: what you have today. So it's all often a lot 123 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: of controversy on who was the first to do what, 124 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: but I think that everybody had a first moment in 125 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: their life and their career. We just happened to be 126 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: the only felale hip hop that had an original rap 127 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: record at the time that came out and set the 128 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: tolls of the R and B ladies that followed. 129 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: You said, It was a cheer, and any black girl 130 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: knows like you've been like when you cheer. I never 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: ever thought, because I was a cheerleader, especially for Pop Warner, 132 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I would have never considered a rap. But that's exactly 133 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: what it was. It was right cheer. 134 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: Punk you up was a cheer that we're gonna blow 135 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: you right on out. We're gonna blow you right on up. 136 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: Get up, get up, get up, get up back now. 137 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: It was a cheer. And then we said funk you 138 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 5: right on Upunk. 139 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: That channeled to a song calling a delic what's happened 140 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: to be the hottest group in time? And the word 141 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: falk was wiggie and phone those were the words back. 142 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: In the day. So we used to follock you up. 143 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: I love it, I love it all. And then outside 144 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: of that, that's establishing yourself in a world where you 145 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: are a pioneer. People are respecting your voice, your sound. 146 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: I I'd like to know more about the writing of it, 147 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: because I've read in my research that you felt like 148 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: writing and acting in poetry was your first love and 149 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: singing was. 150 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was coming that well. You know, as an 151 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: English major, I loved the English anciently write pins and rhymes. 152 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: I think we all did part of what we became 153 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: as hip hop that you had to be able to 154 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: write your rhymes and all of that. That was something 155 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: that we did at sugar Hill Records. We as a 156 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: group where we went there, we started to form songs 157 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: for the sugar Hill Gang, for the sequence for the 158 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: West Street Mob. 159 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: A lot of what you hear from that early days. 160 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: Of hip hop, a lot of it was written by 161 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: the sequence Apache Eighth Wonder and West East Mob Less Stands. 162 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: All those songs were coined by Blondie shrilling myself. 163 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, that's powerful. And you say it so matter 164 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: of factly, like you like, yeah, just tomorrow, But that 165 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: is powerful. If you look at the industry today, do 166 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: you see your influence still? 167 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: Well, I want to look at the NGSC definitely see 168 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: our influence. When Lauren Hill came about, that was the 169 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: greatest compliment that we could have got it because she 170 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: took roberta flax sol Is, she fused it with hip hop, 171 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: and she took the actual body of hip hop and 172 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: singing and married them together to make one of the 173 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: greatest rat records. 174 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 5: Ever made about female ever. And that was following the 175 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 5: trend that we had already said now. 176 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: And shout out to Lauryn Hill, who performed most recently 177 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: at the Roots Picnic. It was a beautiful reunion. I'm 178 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: one of the legends of our time in a voice 179 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: that narrates many of our lifestyles. You yeah, like, let 180 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: me tell you about Brown Sugar. 181 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: I want to know. 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: I want to know all that you wrote with DiAngelo, 183 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: because Brown Sugar I remember it changing by game, you 184 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like for everybody, I was like, well, 185 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: what is this we're listening to? I remember a bunch 186 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: of me and my friends jumped into a car and 187 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: tried to go down to the local radio station just 188 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to meet DiAngelo because this music was so soulful. It 189 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: spoke to our spirit and I'm like, oh, my girl 190 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: wrote as if we're best friends songs here. 191 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: It's folk funder because d' angelo, uh, just just a 192 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: credit to himself, his brother Luther Archer, and the Angelo 193 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: was primarily responsible for writing a lot of Brown Sugar. 194 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, when I met D'Angelo, I 195 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: was infused with that whole vibe because we were excited 196 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: to work with each other. I ended up writing Jones 197 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: and my bones on that first out, So you know, 198 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: every Day was a song that I wrote. Die was 199 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: a song that I wrote with him. More accordingly, I 200 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: got to work very closely with him in the studio 201 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: when he was cruising. When we get by song that 202 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: would embody a presence, energy, a vibe. We went on 203 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: to do the next hour and I did a Spanish joint. 204 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 4: I did a Great Day in the Morning. I did Africa, 205 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: I did send it on. You know, these are the 206 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: songs that I were writing with him when he started 207 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: to evolve and people started to look for what was next. 208 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: We grew up Great Day in the Morning. Like I said, 209 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: We went on to do play for the cartoon soundtrack 210 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: with Michael Jordan, with Bugs, Buddy and all of them. 211 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 4: It was just a plethora of opportunities to do stuff, 212 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: and it was hard to do Vertical Hole, which was 213 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: my D'Angelo and and whatever else they had for me 214 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: slate to do. 215 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: I was spreading myself for then. 216 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: I had worked on Canther, I had worked with Usher 217 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: and Monica on this reading it out of me the soundtrack, 218 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: so I was kind of being pulled to and fro 219 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: at a time when you know, music was evolving in 220 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: a whole nother way, and we're just grateful that I 221 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: was factored into that whole neo soul by But I 222 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: have to give credit where credit and do Luther Archer 223 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 4: and D'Angelo, who are brothers. They did the soundtrack of 224 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: Jason's lyric. You will know we came right behind that 225 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: and did a Freedom for the Joy with girls all 226 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 4: the women, So you know I was part that whole movement. 227 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: And Raphaelsa did you know there was a handful of 228 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: us that kind of played in that playground together. So 229 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: but it's safe to say the Angelo was pretty pretty 230 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: formed and well shaped by the time I met him. 231 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 4: I would only enhance when he was already do. 232 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question when you write, and 233 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: we'll get into obviously your solo career, But when you write, 234 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: what do you Where do you go to write? What 235 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: is the mood? What is the occasion? How do you 236 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: do it? 237 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: When I write, I go to the core of my 238 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: only emotion, because anything that you do is attached to 239 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: an emotion. Be a good, better, Indifferent in emotion, nonetheless, 240 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: is what fuse the fire. If you're angry, you can 241 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: write some for my angry stance because you pull from 242 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: that end. And just like being an active in order 243 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: to get great, you have to cry at will. 244 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: If you can cuiet wills because. 245 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: You're able to internalize pain to the point that you 246 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: can tap in on what it is you're trying to 247 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: get to. It is the same process with the writing, 248 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: and you can tap into what it is you're trying to. 249 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: So wait, So does do they come to you and say, 250 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and I'll use the angel as an example, Hi, I 251 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: need some dope neo soul music and only you can 252 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: do it. Or is it like I need a love 253 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: song to tell the ladies how I feel? Or what? 254 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: What is the directive? I'm curious. 255 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: Okay, there is no real direction on what you need. 256 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: More than likely people think when they hear one hit 257 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: song ninety nine its songs from that same person because 258 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: the one whenever you open and matter be touched in paper, 259 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: it's gonna come out break. That is not the case. Okay, 260 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. But normally when 261 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: they say and I need you to write a song, okay, 262 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: it all depends on who the groundworkers lay. You get 263 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: in a track that it moves me in a certain way. 264 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: I can write something in a certain way. But if 265 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: you if you got one element working and then the 266 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: other element not working, it's gonna be a sale marriage. 267 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 5: If that makes it assist, it has to be a 268 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: work up of marriage. 269 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 4: It's almost virtually impossible to take a good track and 270 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: make it dope. Oh wow, now you got a really 271 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: dope track. It's easy. But if you don't have a 272 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: dope track, you can't make something dood dope. 273 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, I don't think it can't work that 274 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of magic. So then you are a solo artist 275 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: and you have a career and you are your own. 276 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: And I always find it interesting I think of artists 277 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: like even a Missy Elliott for that matter, who was like, 278 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: I never really wanted to be in front of the camera. 279 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: I only wanted to write. And Sylvia Ron said to me, right, 280 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean be in front of the camera. When you 281 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: become an artist and everything is about you, what is different? 282 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: What is different than being the writer when you're performing. 283 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, when you become the artist, you become an anime, 284 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: become a character. You put yourself in a position that okay, 285 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: I'm stepping out of being who I was born to 286 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: be like a regular first. Now I've got to put 287 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: on this persona that I am greater than life. And 288 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: the reason I say that is because you know, when 289 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: you dream of being a superstar, you have an envision 290 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: in your mind that superstar sways her arms out. If 291 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: you're a dancer, you kick your legs out and you 292 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: do that. You know, well, it's all in the interpretation 293 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: of what you feel that a star is. Then there's 294 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: some people you know who is social is like Beyonce. 295 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: When she wants to go there, she has to go 296 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: into this whole you know. Animated characterisic characterization that allows 297 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: you to believe that she's somebody different. So you know, 298 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: for an artist, that's just somebody that is feeling good 299 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: about themselves. 300 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: You lose yourself and your gift. 301 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: And when you do that, you kind of just explode 302 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: because now you're able to act alive, able to act out, 303 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: you're able to personifide this thing it says, this is 304 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: how I want you to sing. If I want to 305 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: be down down ross the balls, I want to give 306 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: you that energy that I am in charge God to 307 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: the yard. So I love it's all a part of 308 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: your persona. I love it you act out the persona 309 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 4: that you are. I love that. 310 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: That is so true for anybody who's performing, whether you're 311 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: a singer or not. Okay, you know what time it is, 312 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: pay bills. That is what we have to do. What 313 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: you can do is fast forward past the commercials because 314 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I know there are plenty hit that that fifteen or 315 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: thirty second forward button and we'll be right back with 316 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Angie Stone. 317 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: Every champion and Kerry champions to be a champion, a champion, 318 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: and carry champion and carry chappy out a champion and 319 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: carry champion and carry champion. 320 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: Greats and entertainment can make it work. 321 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: Kerry Champion and carry champion is to be a champion, 322 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: a champion and carry nigger chion, the carey SHEPPI and 323 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: the kerried. 324 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: She working on. 325 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: Angie Stone's still here with us talking to me about 326 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: the difference. Very few, I think, but the difference between 327 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: being a singer performer and an actress performer. I hope 328 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: you all enjoy. Angie Stone. I read and you can 329 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: tell me if this is true or not. Clive Davis, 330 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: when you guys work together, Clive had what is now 331 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: a hit, a hit record or a hit single, uh, 332 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to put this hit single on one of 333 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: on your album and you didn't like it. What tell 334 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: me how that goes? How do we collaborate and decide? 335 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: All right, fine, all right, Clive, I'm going to listen 336 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: to you, and I don't really like this though, Well 337 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: that's kind of me. 338 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 4: If I don't like it, I'm gonna be painfully honest. 339 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 4: I didn't like the song, one of the songs on 340 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: this album. And you know what's almost like for me 341 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: when I say I don't like something, everybody gassed up 342 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: because when they know it's a hit. I would like 343 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: the song because I was finished my album. This was 344 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: I was getting ready to wrap and mix and master 345 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: the album in five oth and you know I found 346 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: the song that you have to I'm like, I don't 347 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: want to give a more song. 348 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: I done my album. I'm done. 349 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 4: So when he played, I said, I don't even like 350 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: the song. It was a wish I didn't miss you, 351 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: And he was like, and you have to do the song, 352 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: and I just said not, I want to do the song, 353 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: not so much because I didn't like it. 354 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 5: I wasn't that fond of it. 355 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: But I was done with my album, like why are 356 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: you making me go and do another song. I just 357 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: wanted it to be done already. Yeah, say any thing 358 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: with this album. I didn't want to do kiss You, 359 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: kiss You, and they like. I said, my manager, Walter, 360 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: really don't want to do the song, and he said, 361 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: edgic all the reason more. 362 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: Now you gotta do the song. 363 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 4: I said, please, I'm going to tell you. I had 364 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: a long sit down with it Ben and I feeling 365 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: the song. And he said, okay, just Julia favor, just 366 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: finish the song for me. And I'm like, but I don't. 367 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: I really don't like the song. And I mean I 368 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: was dead serious. Uh, and he told me. He says, okay, 369 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 4: I get it. If you don't like it, why it's over. 370 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: I'll take it off a junior paper, go in there 371 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 4: and nil let it record. 372 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: Just do that. And I said, all right. It was 373 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: like pulling teeth. 374 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: I finally got that uh ooh boy it and see 375 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: I was so outdone with that part. 376 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 5: Who way you ooh boy ye? 377 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: And he says, why don't you like? I said, I 378 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: just hate that ooh boy yuh, because that's not what 379 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: I will say. And uh, they laughed at me and 380 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: laughed at me. So when they dropped a single, and 381 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: when I first played Girls in the back of the car, 382 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, ITCHI that's my favorite, that's my favorite. 383 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: And I looked around like you got it. 384 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 5: I was like, you a guy to be kidding. 385 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: So I called up my man and I said this 386 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: and that this, and he just bust out laugh He said, 387 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: you waited to see what happened and. 388 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: Lowering the hold. 389 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: Everybody was going bananas over kiss you, kiss you, kish you? 390 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: What does that say? 391 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: It moves that when I say it's a bad record, 392 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: it just a hit record. 393 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that. 394 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: I have it. 395 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: I can't process that because I would think as an artist, 396 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: you would know what's going to work. 397 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 4: I think I know, but I did. I absolutely love 398 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 4: good Man and I had I was like, okay, y'all 399 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: can pick all of this, but I love and this 400 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: is what I wouldn't do. And they're looking at him like, 401 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: oh hell, now it's proven that. Wait a man, she 402 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: might be right. Okay, wait a minute, what the man 403 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: just went for a million this and that and no other. 404 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, but I know what I'm doing. 405 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes, yes, I probably didn't. I don't like a record 406 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: doesn't mean it's a bad record. 407 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: It just means that you might want to give it 408 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: a second thought because she said she don't like it. 409 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Probably, Oh that is That really is funny. The irony 410 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: of what it's the truth? 411 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 5: And you ask anybody and I can't. They will tell. 412 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: You it's something to being maybe I don't even know 413 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: what it is. I want to say, maybe being a 414 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: little too critical on yourself. I couldn't quite describe it. 415 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: I do. 416 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I am that. 417 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: You're hard on yourself, right. 418 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: I hate it every vocal on this album. 419 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: I knit it was about the cry didn't want to 420 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: put a record out because I thought I sounded like 421 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: crab And I'm like, I'm just not there anymore? 422 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: Why do I? And now I can't. 423 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: I'm laying it over and over because I'm like, you know, 424 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 4: my song was even looking at me crazy and I'm like, 425 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: I can't like this vocal now he said, I know 426 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 4: me too, So they kind of grew on us. 427 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a while, but I will say that 428 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: speaking of your son, he is a rapper and is 429 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: that correct me? If I'm wrong, this is the son 430 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: you have with D'Angelo and he is on the current album. 431 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, he's dope though he got it all stuff 432 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: and he's bananas what okay? 433 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: So how does that work? Does he come in into 434 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: a feature? Is he sitting in studio with you? Or 435 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: he already writes it. 436 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: In the studio? 437 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: See, he was in the studio, took wing over there 438 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: and my manner and Mike can he put a verse 439 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 4: on this for me? And he wrote it and did 440 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: it and wanted to take didn't he ask me? And 441 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: one that made it up for me? He was already 442 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: on it out like okay. 443 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: I love that. Well, congratulations for your artists. That is special. 444 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: That is really special. And it's always nice to see 445 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: that it's in the DNA, right and it finds in 446 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: different ways. That is an accomplished I know you must 447 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: be proud. 448 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: Are you? 449 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: Can I talk to you about acting because you spend 450 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: some time on Broadway, which I feel is and I 451 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: go back and forth between New York and LA and 452 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: every time I go to Broadway or I watch a play, 453 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is so difficult. I could not imagine. 454 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: Is there anything difference between acting and singing? For you? 455 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Which one is more difficult. 456 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 5: Well, it all depends on the script. The role. 457 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: Singing is obviously easier because I've had a whole lot 458 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: more experience with that, and each time where you add 459 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: a melody to a lyric, the memory is lot and loaded. Acting, 460 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: on the other hand, is all memory. You have got 461 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: to really put your mind to work. I did uh 462 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 4: the uh what's the play women of Color? 463 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 464 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: God, I can't think of the Oprah Winfrey colored wind Color. Yeah, 465 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: I did that now, it was Missus Purple. And it 466 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: was written so difficult. I honestly didn't think. 467 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 5: I could pull it off. 468 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 4: And when I pulled that off, I knew I was 469 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: ready for the same. It was so intricate and difficult. 470 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: It was almost like something I never seen, like Shakespeare, 471 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 4: and I had to actually memorize like these all these lines. 472 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: I just finished a series called Whole Things H T 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: A U X that's on True TV. That's actually good. 474 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: And of course you've seen me on in the cut. 475 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: Of Girl Friends. I've done quite a few movies. 476 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: So it's kind of fun when you have to create 477 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: a new character that is not you. Most of the 478 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 4: characters lady, if people want me to add my sense 479 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 4: of humor. 480 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 5: To it, which is easy. 481 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: But you know, uh, try getting a character that does 482 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: not embody your sense of humor and you've got to 483 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 4: really create a role for this person. 484 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: It's difficult, Yeah. 485 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 5: But it's because if you can master that that. 486 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: Every champion and Kerry champions to be a champion, a 487 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: champion and Kerry Champion and carry chat be out a 488 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: champion and carry Champion and carry. 489 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: Champion entertainment and naked weirder. 490 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: Kerry Champion and carry champions to be a champion, a 491 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: champion and carry champion Champion and carry Champion and carry Champion. 492 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: Entertainment, get naked word. 493 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever done a project you talk about Shakespeare? 494 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I listen in college, I too was an English major, 495 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: and they used to try to make us recite Shakespeare. 496 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have it. I didn't do 497 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: well in that class barely c C class linus whatever 498 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: it was I had. But have you ever done something 499 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: in terms of your acting career and said this is 500 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: this is excellent because it's hard for people who are 501 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: very creative and very talented and ambitious to step outside 502 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: of what they did and said that I did that. 503 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Is there a project that you worked on and was like, 504 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: I did that. 505 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I thought I did. 506 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: When I did Show Girlfriends, I was I played a 507 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: character called Dalla Mason. I think that I nailed it 508 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: right on the edge. I thought it was brilliant. I 509 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: think the one that I did for Color Girls Is 510 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: was phenomenal. 511 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 512 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: It was just. 513 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: And a very art see piece of work that you know, 514 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: everybody had to be on the point. I worked with 515 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: Robin Gibbons, and you know it was just an intense 516 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: script and you really had to be focused to pull 517 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: it off. And I studied real hard and maybe it 518 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: happen so good for you? I mean first person though, 519 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: if I feel like a script demanding thing that unable 520 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: to give out, yeah, yeah, like I'm anna say I 521 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: don't like something I really want to do, but like 522 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: a blue dropped the ball, I want audition for it. 523 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Good for you? 524 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: Now, what Tavia Spencer used to read for when I 525 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: lived in California, She and I used to be neck 526 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: and neck at all of our auditions. It was myself, 527 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: Olivia and it was someone else's. So the minute I 528 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: left California uh and moved back South O, Niviya got 529 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: the best role of her life, and that was the 530 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: one she played with. She had the pie uh huh, 531 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 4: and she had arrived her her or break came and 532 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: I'm like. 533 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: That point role, you know. 534 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: But I mean it was good to see her get 535 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: there because every time I went to audition, I was like, 536 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: oh wow, I gotta go up against Octavia Spencer. Oh 537 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: god again again again. It was that kind of thing, 538 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: you know. So it was one of those tactics where 539 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: I was in great company and I used to get 540 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: called to read for stuff like that. 541 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: How amazing is that? And by the way, that is true, 542 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: they bring the same person out. You're like, now you again? 543 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: Do I have to keep seeing you everywhere? 544 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? Was it like that? Well, I I'm sorry. 545 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: No, I was gonna say, was it like that when 546 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: you ran into her an audition room? 547 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 548 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: Because I knew anything that she was anytime she was there, 549 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: we were both reading for. 550 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 5: The same part. 551 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: I hate Hollywood, so I'd be. 552 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: Like, but it makes me that if I staying, I 553 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: probably would have wound up with her luck. I probably 554 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: eventually got a role that she no longer had an 555 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: audition for that they would have needed a new face 556 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: for and they were to see it. Let's try Andy 557 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: Ston that far. I was actually supposed to get a. 558 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: Role that. 559 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: Played a woman from Ghana that Iris Elba was in. 560 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: Jill Scott ended up getting the role, and I remember 561 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: it was coming to me and saying, you need to 562 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: check your team because Anthony, the guy that ended up 563 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: passing away the producer, uh, he let me know that 564 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: the role was yours. He had told him he really 565 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: wanted me to have the role. And Jill ended up 566 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: getting it because her team was just a little bit 567 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 4: more aggressive than mine and they fought. Whereas I had 568 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: very limited team players, she had a bunch of people 569 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 4: that were red in her corner. Shout out in Jill Scott. Yeah, yeah, 570 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: a lot of people that were in her corner and 571 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: they just charity that great is it? 572 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 5: So as a result, she ended up getting that role. 573 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: Do you think that. 574 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what else there is in terms of 575 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: for you to do, But when you get to a 576 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: point of your career where you've had success and you 577 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: maintain and you have established yourself, what would it be 578 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: a next I'd like to try that? Or what would 579 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: be the next get that you want? Would you want 580 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: to come back to La and really go hard at acting. 581 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Is there something that's out there in the ether that 582 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: you're waiting to grab? 583 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: Well, my next is you know, if I had my way, 584 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: I would want to be like Harol Burnett because I 585 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 4: think that fascinating. She's probably one of the most creative 586 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: women in the game. I love the fact that she 587 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: ran her own ship, she had her own show, she 588 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: trusted her own jokes, and I just feel like I'm 589 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: a leader like that. I want to be in a 590 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: position where I can drive the car. I think being 591 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: a visionary is key. Of course, I would love to 592 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: come back to LA, but I would love to push 593 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 4: my own show, and I'd like to see other people 594 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: when I don't necessarily have to be in it for 595 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: a part of it, but I really would like to see, 596 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 4: you know, other people come up because I know it's 597 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: a lot of child with people just don't sure. 598 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: They don't get the break. 599 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: It's a tough it's a tough game. It's a tough 600 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: game out here in LA. It's a tough game. Okay. 601 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: So for everyone who wants to go out and support 602 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: your latest project, how do they find it? You can 603 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: get it on Apple. 604 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: One, Yeah, all platform b and the right one is 605 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: me with the black hat, you know. And then I 606 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 4: got one with my hands like this on my face. 607 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 4: That is the Instagram poster. That is the real angistone. 608 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 4: All the old ones connected to old labels of people 609 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 4: that won't give up the hamph so they're confusing the issue. 610 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 5: But the latest ones up one. 611 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, with your hand. 612 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 5: B A N G, I E. 613 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: S C O and the the Angie stone all platforsts 614 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: hands are your face let me know, okay, got it? 615 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: I want to make sure because my producer, Jacqueses will 616 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: make sure that we put all that out there. Is 617 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: there anything else we should be promoting. I want to 618 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: thank you for your time. I know you have had 619 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 4: a day, so I wanted to. 620 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: Get you in Ho's okay, I got I got a 621 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 5: few more to go. 622 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: But all I just want to make sure that everybody 623 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: knows is that I'm working on my foundation which is 624 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: called Angel Stripes. 625 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: And what I do is I. 626 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 4: Help cultiveately people, infants, homeless families and infants. I make 627 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 4: a gift care packages. Our team of people be going 628 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: around to the senior citizens, volunteering our time, making sure 629 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: that they're okay. Entertaining them and just loving on them. 630 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: I also have a hot sauce that's coming out for 631 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 4: brother Man Tacos that I'm doing with young man by 632 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 4: the name of Randy. 633 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 5: I'm excited about it. The hot sauce. 634 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 4: It's called four hundred degrees and that's how four hundred 635 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 4: years we've been over Africa. So the hot sauce is 636 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 4: a blekay. And now the last thing that I'm working 637 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: on is a television show or a streaming network called 638 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 4: House of Flay that I'm co hosting with a music 639 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 4: soul Child, where we gicking young and upcoming artists the 640 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 4: opportunity to get out there and be seen and uh, 641 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 4: you know, hopefully get their gifts acknowledge by the world 642 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: and correct me. 643 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong. Give music so Chi'll work on this latest. 644 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 5: Album with you. Music so Child worked on the single 645 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 5: The Gem with me. 646 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I love him. I saw him performed in my 647 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: friend's wedding. 648 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 5: All incredible, incredible, incredible. 649 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: I love this Andree Stone, You're a legend. You are 650 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: a trailblazer and you are soul so I appreciate you. 651 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and you look amazing, don't you 652 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: ever forget that either. 653 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: Oh wow, thank you so much. 654 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thank you. 655 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys so much. You're welcome, so pretty. 656 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. 657 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Naked Sports written and executive produced by me Carrie Champion, 658 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: produced by Jock Pece Thomas, sound designed and mastered by 659 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: Dwayne Crawford. Naked Sports is a part of the Black 660 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Effect podcast network in iHeartMedia