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Speaker 1: defensive front and it may be causing an issue to

430
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Speaker 1: finding those right combinations. Well, you can have two many

431
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Speaker 1: and not have the right many. You know, you won't

432
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Speaker 1: have the right guys. John, If you have the right guys,

433
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Speaker 1: give me two minute, you know, so we can sip

434
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Speaker 1: through it and get the best four on the field

435
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Speaker 1: at any given time. It's a good problem to have.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to have the best and then

437
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Speaker 1: try to identify who are the four best and get

438
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Speaker 1: those guys on the field. But we're not complaining about

439
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Speaker 1: our depth on the defensive line. You want depth, and

440
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Speaker 1: things happen some of what we're talking about now with

441
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Speaker 1: Star and now sometimes you have to dig into that depth.

442
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Speaker 1: So hopefully it's not a big drop off from your

443
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Speaker 1: ones to your twos. And you know, We're in a

444
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Speaker 1: good spot right now, and hopefully we can maintain that

445
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Speaker 1: for a period of time. This group maybe have position

446
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Speaker 1: less not necessarily. This guy's a d and this guy's

447
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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. We've seen a lot of guys play

448
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Speaker 1: both positions. Does that help, especially maybe in an instance

449
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Speaker 1: like this with a lack of availability on the interior. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. A good question because for

451
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Speaker 1: us to have guys that had a position flexibility, like

452
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Speaker 1: an f al body you saw him in the game

453
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. We played him inside, we played him outside,

454
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Speaker 1: even aj Espanessa, you know, we had him outside rushing

455
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Speaker 1: at times and then one third down we put him inside.

456
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Speaker 1: So when you have guys that give you that type

457
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Speaker 1: of flexibility, you can count a weather to storm a

458
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Speaker 1: little bit better when you have injuries. And fortunately we

459
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Speaker 1: have a few guys that can do that, can kick

460
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Speaker 1: inside and kick outside, and that helps us. But it's

461
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Speaker 1: no every team doesn't have that. We were Fortunately we

462
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Speaker 1: do have a few guys who can do that. What

463
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Speaker 1: have you seen this summer from the Vernon Butler performance. Vernon,

464
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Speaker 1: it's much more intentional about playing hard, practicing hard, taking

465
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Speaker 1: care of his business in the meeting rooms. I walked

466
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Speaker 1: up to him the day and I walked through and

467
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Speaker 1: I just I shook his hand. You know, we always

468
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Speaker 1: talk about even and I walked throughs practicing with good technique,

469
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Speaker 1: gut fundamentals. And there have been times with Vernon, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: we've had to have some conversations on the side here

471
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Speaker 1: and I and today I went up and I just

472
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Speaker 1: high five and I said, you know, without anybody saying

473
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Speaker 1: anything here, you are being a tentative to the details

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Speaker 1: of your position. That's a big deal because all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you earn the trust even more so of

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Speaker 1: your coaches and your teammates. So he's doing a good

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Speaker 1: job of earning the trust of his coaches and teammates

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Speaker 1: by the way he's practicing, and we're looking for big

479
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Speaker 1: things out of him. We need him to play at

480
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Speaker 1: a high level for us this season and to compete

481
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Speaker 1: every single staff because he has a ton of raw talent,

482
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Speaker 1: a ton of it. At you know, we didn't have

483
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Speaker 1: him in the OTAs in the offseason program, but from

484
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Speaker 1: the day he's approach training camp, from day one, he's

485
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Speaker 1: had that kind of a flip as too. I'm gonna

486
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Speaker 1: do it the way the Buffalo Bills want it done.

487
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Speaker 1: And that's been good. Boss. He's had a good training

488
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Speaker 1: camp and he's got to keep him help in, just

489
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Speaker 1: keep him progressing. Thank you. All right. That's Bill's defensive

490
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Speaker 1: coordinator Leslie Fraser addressing the media prior to practice today

491
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Speaker 1: as they move into regular season mode. As they have

492
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Speaker 1: now adopted their regular season schedule as far as practice

493
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Speaker 1: practice during training camp typically going from about ten to

494
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Speaker 1: eleven forty five or noon. Now practices starting around twelve

495
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Speaker 1: to twelve thirty today as a twelve thirty practice, So

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Speaker 1: they'll be out there right now in short order, but

497
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Speaker 1: they will be missing some players Coach Frasier, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: basically confirmed who would not be out there on his

499
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Speaker 1: side of the ball, namely Star Latoula, AJ Klein and

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Speaker 1: Matt Mulano. He did also say that Dane Jackson went

501
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Speaker 1: for an MRI today, so we'll get an update as

502
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Speaker 1: to whether he had that done already and is out

503
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Speaker 1: of practice or if he is missing as well. We

504
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Speaker 1: do know that Stefan Diggs is out there participating in practice,

505
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Speaker 1: so that's the good news. And you know, a good

506
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Speaker 1: question was raised to coach Fraser Steve because you know,

507
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Speaker 1: you have Harrison Phillips down with an injury that's going

508
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Speaker 1: to take some time for him to come back from.

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Speaker 1: Based on what Sean McDermott said, they're already without Treyvon

510
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Speaker 1: Hester reserve defensive tackle, and now with Starr not at

511
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Speaker 1: practice today, they could very well be shorthanded come the

512
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Speaker 1: end of the week when they have to play the

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Speaker 1: Packers in their final preseason game on Saturday. Yeah, that's

514
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Speaker 1: that's when you really do need guys like Boogie Basham

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Speaker 1: who can play both end and defense and fa Obada

516
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Speaker 1: the same thing. Those guys are gonna pull double duty.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of and one of the things that is

518
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Speaker 1: kind of not fair about that is it is it

519
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Speaker 1: hampers their ability to evaluate Basham and Obada at end

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Speaker 1: because now they move inside. Yeah, I mean, okay, plays

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Speaker 1: people played inside last week, so you know you want

522
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Speaker 1: to see him at both places. But it does throw

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Speaker 1: a wrench into things certainly. That means also obviously the

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Speaker 1: star Looto Laes're not going to get any reps at

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Speaker 1: all in the preseason. Our colleague Maddie Glabass coach Frasier

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Speaker 1: what he's looking for from his d going forward, and

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Speaker 1: he said, we need to get some of our vets

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Speaker 1: some time on task so they know where they are

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Speaker 1: leading up to the regular season opener. That would tend

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Speaker 1: to indicate Steve that there is going to be strong

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Speaker 1: consideration to play starters in this final preseason game on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what you get from that comment? I get.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some of that. Yeah, I think there's

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Speaker 1: some guys they want to get and we're not talking

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Speaker 1: about playing a whole half or anything, although maybe some

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Speaker 1: of them will. Who knows. Now they may have to

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Speaker 1: with guys out, but you certainly want to get him

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Speaker 1: some live reps just to say, okay, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: now I remember that you know some of these guys

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Speaker 1: are I mean Star Loto Las played a ton of football. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: so of a lot of these guys, so they you know,

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Speaker 1: it really doesn't take much to get them back into

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Speaker 1: that Okay, now, I remember exactly what it is like,

544
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Speaker 1: and you just kind of get back to that mindset

545
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Speaker 1: and you kind of expect it and you just like

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Speaker 1: what it says, knock the rust off. I just I'm

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Speaker 1: a big proponent of giving guys a chance to play

548
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Speaker 1: it's hard to even as a preseason guy, and I

549
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Speaker 1: was one of them, it's hard to stand over there

550
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Speaker 1: and watch guys play and not be because you don't

551
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Speaker 1: you're not feeling. Players don't feel like they're sitting over

552
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Speaker 1: there staying safe. They feel like they feel like they're

553
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Speaker 1: over there missing out, loafing what missing out? Not helping?

554
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Speaker 1: You want to play? All of them want to play.

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Speaker 1: If you if you got a guy over there standing

556
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines and you're you're for his own good

557
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Speaker 1: whatever for safety, like Josh Allen Devin's saying, you name it,

558
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Speaker 1: whatever player you want to pick, Davious White, they're not

559
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Speaker 1: staying over there of their own free will. If you've

560
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Speaker 1: got a guy that's over there going yeah, you know what,

561
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Speaker 1: I don't really want to play, cut that guy. You

562
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Speaker 1: want guys that want to play. If you're playing for money,

563
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: marbles or chuck. You want guys who want to play

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Speaker 1: all the time. Whenever there's a game, they want in

565
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Speaker 1: and they want to be the center of attention. They

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Speaker 1: want to be that guy. If you got guys that

567
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Speaker 1: are like on the ad or they want to play

568
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, get rid of those guys. You got

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Speaker 1: you gotta have want to have you gotta have guys

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Speaker 1: who want to play. That goes from Josh all the

571
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Speaker 1: way down to know, certainly there's a risk, but the

572
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Speaker 1: players don't think about that. That's that's way off their radar. Man,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get hurt. Shut up, let me play,

574
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Speaker 1: you know, let me win this game. So that's what

575
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Speaker 1: the coaches are up against with the mentality of the players.

576
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Speaker 1: The player Josh Allen sitting there, Devin Singletary's Trey White

577
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Speaker 1: sitting there going yeah, I want to play, And even

578
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Speaker 1: Star Lotule said yeah, I'd like you know, I'm gonna

579
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Speaker 1: play some you know, even in a in a moment

580
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Speaker 1: before they even started playing these things, Star is sitting

581
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Speaker 1: there going here, I'd like to play a little. You know.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to stand over there for three hours and

583
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Speaker 1: watch these guys play. Well, there's a game going on.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. So the coaches have to just just stiff

585
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: arm the players. If they don't want him to play,

586
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: you got to take them out of it and tell

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Speaker 1: them point blank you are not playing. Because until they

588
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: do that, the players are going to be over there

589
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit, trying to get on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did you make of coach Frasier's description of the

591
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Speaker 1: cornerback to competition. He claims it is neck and neck

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Speaker 1: heading into the final preseason game. And I have to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Steve, I didn't even think it

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Speaker 1: was close. I thought I know it was Levi's job

595
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Speaker 1: all the way, because I don't think. I mean, unless

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Speaker 1: Dane in the last week has just lit it up

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Speaker 1: in practice, we haven't really seen him flash in the

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Speaker 1: preseason games. Maybe his coverage is so good that nobody's

599
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Speaker 1: throwing his way, But I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Levi has been the better performer through the course of

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Speaker 1: training camp in the preseason. I didn't. I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have characterized it that close. But I don't have

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Speaker 1: the train die like coach Frasier. Yeah, and I don't,

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Speaker 1: And we don't watch every rep, and I mean, I'll

605
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Speaker 1: be honest, And they watch practice over and over and

606
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: they know exactly what they want him to do. They

607
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Speaker 1: want Dan Jackson to do on this, and they want

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Speaker 1: his feet at a certain place, they want him at

609
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Speaker 1: a certain depth, they want him at a certain angle,

610
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Speaker 1: they want him to read this than that so they

611
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Speaker 1: know all the nuances of what they want him to do,

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Speaker 1: and they've been able to make pretty accurate evaluations of

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Speaker 1: how good he's been. But I'm with you. The thing

614
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Speaker 1: we always talk about with Levi Wall is consistency, and

615
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: he's been dead consistent the entire training from start to finish.

616
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Speaker 1: And it's hard to get a guy like that off

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Speaker 1: the field. So not only does Dan Jackson have to

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Speaker 1: flash in practice and in the games he gets an

619
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Speaker 1: opportunity in preseason, but he's also got to cut out

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Speaker 1: the bottom where he's got to be more consistent than Levi,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he's been that right. He's got

622
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Speaker 1: to cut out the mistakes, cut out the bad plays. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, to say, it's neck and neck. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how similar their games have become, because I've they struck

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Speaker 1: me as a different players. Yeah, so you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Jackson seems to be more instinctive, a little

627
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: more athletic, right, a little more aggressive, and Levi's more

628
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: of the steady eddy, not get you killed, responsible, not

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Speaker 1: gonna have a mental error kind of play. He knocks

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Speaker 1: it and never never spectacular, but never horrific. While you know,

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Speaker 1: Dane's a little bit of that, a little more, a

632
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: little more of that. But he also, you know, has

633
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Speaker 1: a potential to like to be that guy that steps

634
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Speaker 1: out in one hands, a catch down the sideline kind

635
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: of thing. So yeah, and that's what I'm so he's

636
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Speaker 1: evaluation is there. But are they how similar are they

637
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Speaker 1: or is it just a strictly production or is it

638
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: is it is their data or is this just his think?

639
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: Say I like the guy Dane's doing well, but man,

640
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Speaker 1: I don't know, once in a while he goes off

641
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: the air and he's running the wrong coverage something like that,

642
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: or maybe the statement. Sometimes coaches use the media to

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Speaker 1: push an agenda that they might have with a player.

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Speaker 1: For example, maybe he's trying to kick Dane in the

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Speaker 1: pants a little bit to make it more of a competition.

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Speaker 1: So he creates this narrative where Dane believes, oh, here

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Speaker 1: these last two weeks and see if I can do it,

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Speaker 1: And that how he gets better competition out of a

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Speaker 1: player like Dane. Perhaps, I mean, it could be any

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Speaker 1: number of reasons, we don't know. Twitter conversation today deals

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Speaker 1: with the impending roster decisions. Which back of the roster

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Speaker 1: player has made a strong case to make the final

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. This is your chance to give

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Speaker 1: us your favorite horse in the race of long shots.

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Speaker 1: Who has made the best case to make the fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster from the back half of what is

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Speaker 1: a very deep and talented squad. Can let us know

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Speaker 1: at eight five fifty or on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, Steve and I back in a second,

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Speaker 1: stay right there, Welcome back One Bills Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker kicking it here on a Tuesday and asking

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Speaker 1: you which back of the roster player has made a

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Speaker 1: strong case to make the final fifty three man squad

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Speaker 1: eight three fifty eight five fifty two five fifty if

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Speaker 1: you've got a player in mind that you think is

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Speaker 1: deserving of your support, and you can also hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet if you wish. As our

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Speaker 1: MSG viewers got a shot of the Bills out there

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Speaker 1: on the practice field as we speak, back on the

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Speaker 1: practice field after a day off yesterday, you want to

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Speaker 1: ramp it up here on the tweet sheet, Steve, wait

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Speaker 1: me to go first. Yeah, let it rip. Let me

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Speaker 1: just tell everybody. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: One of our regulars, Tiffany Daniels, says, the Swiss army knife.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam has multiple position options to offer the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Having multiple coaches fighting for you can only help his

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Speaker 1: chances of making the roster. Powering the ball past the

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Speaker 1: goal line as a huge asset for him. I liked

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Speaker 1: what they had him doing in the Bears game. Now

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't here yesterday, and I know you

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Speaker 1: and Maddie went over what all the Bears game and stuff.

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Speaker 1: The Bears were non competitive? Yeah, they were. We actually

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Speaker 1: talked about that because they were awful because as good

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Speaker 1: as the Bills performed, and you know, still at all,

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Speaker 1: no matter what the Bears did that you still had

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Speaker 1: to execute. Yeah, but there were multiple examples where I

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Speaker 1: watched the play again and I'm just like, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about what I'm seeing from the Bills here, but man,

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Speaker 1: this is awful from the Bears. How much credit like

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Speaker 1: the Devin Singledary touchdown run that might have been some

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Speaker 1: of the worst tackling I've seen in five years. And

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Speaker 1: as much as I want to give Singletary the credit

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Speaker 1: for a looting defenders man alive. That was bad. Tackling

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Speaker 1: they were bad. They were bad, but during even competitive

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Speaker 1: at points in the game. I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: think about it. But at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: it was so embarrassing for the Bears. I almost think,

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Speaker 1: you know what, are they given Reggie gilliam the tailback

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Speaker 1: spot just as a goof because you know what, let's

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Speaker 1: see what Reggie can do it? No, I think it

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Speaker 1: was it was rooted in the fact that they didn't

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Speaker 1: have enough healthy running backs. No Christian Wade made, no

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Speaker 1: Antonio Williams going into the game. Zach Moss fresh off

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Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. You didn't want to overtax him in

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Speaker 1: his first game action. Devin Singletary is one of your

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Speaker 1: top two backs. You don't want to risk him with injury.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And Taiwan Jones is on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Say what, Reggie Gilliams on this team played tailback, fallback,

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Speaker 1: He's played specially, he's played tight end last year. We

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Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday, Steve. How do you I am

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Speaker 1: of the opinion that he has a good chance to

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Speaker 1: make the roster and the team carries one less tight

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Speaker 1: end as a result, exactly exactly because he can do

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Speaker 1: some of that. He can play, he can play on

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Speaker 1: the wing out of the tight ends block. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I thought Reggie gilliam was a

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Speaker 1: huge plus plus having a two hundred and forty pound

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Speaker 1: guy in the backfield on a goal line situation, both

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Speaker 1: as a full back oar as a ten. They used

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Speaker 1: him that way. I like it. I like they used

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Speaker 1: him a bunch on short yardage during during the Bears game,

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Speaker 1: and he you know, he showed enough in the running game.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a liability. Now certainly he's a two hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty pound lumbering guy. I mean, he's not run

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Speaker 1: away from anybody. He's not you know, it's not both Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But the dude can play and he's it gives you

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Speaker 1: a lot on special teams. So Reggie's a guy. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think he is an absolute Well I say this,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a lock. But I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they might have been doing it because hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: we don't care if he gets hurt because he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be gone in two weeks. I don't think that's the keys,

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Speaker 1: but if you keep him, that means you are probably

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Speaker 1: keeping five backs because you also have Taiwan Jones, who's

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Speaker 1: technically a running back even though he's a core special teamer,

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Speaker 1: and then Moss, Brita and Singletary. So now you're up

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Speaker 1: to five, which is why I was saying on the

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Speaker 1: show yesterday, that means you're probably one fewer tight end

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Speaker 1: that you're keeping three tight right at the most right

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Speaker 1: three plus Gilliam at the most um. So, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you got nine guys between the running backs and tight ends,

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Speaker 1: which is plenty nine guys. Yeah, nine guys at the

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Speaker 1: at the at the tight end running back, probably eight

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Speaker 1: or nine at well, I don't know. That's that might

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Speaker 1: be too many because you got eight or nine at

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Speaker 1: offensive line, that's eighteen or sixteen or eighteen guys. Then

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Speaker 1: you got six or seven six wide receivers anyway, and

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Speaker 1: then you gotta have two or three quarter but two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: That gets you to like twenty six pretty quick. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a hair too many. Yeah, too many. It we

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Speaker 1: were talking about yesterday. There's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: tough decisions. But that's why we have the topic today,

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Speaker 1: which back of the roster player has made a strong

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Speaker 1: case to make the final fifty three man squad. Seth says,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a bit of a stretch just due

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Speaker 1: to the numbers at wide receiver, but Stevenson has made

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Speaker 1: his case. He's looked just as good, if not better

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Speaker 1: than McKenzie on returns, and I think he has more

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Speaker 1: big playability in the passing game also Zimmer, because he's

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Speaker 1: been healthy and Harry just went down. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm ready to go as far as to

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Speaker 1: say McKenzie, he's been better than McKenzie in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can go there. He called

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Speaker 1: one long ball and crunch time against Detroit against third teamers, Okay,

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Speaker 1: nice play, loved it. Instrumental in putting them in position

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Speaker 1: to get the game winning field goal. Don't deny that

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Speaker 1: for a second. And he had a giant play on

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Speaker 1: the punt return where Detroit completely or Detroit Chicago completely

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Speaker 1: outkicked their coverage and gave Stevenson thirty yards to work

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Speaker 1: with after he caught the ball. Yeah, I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to dismiss what Stevenson did at all, And I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to be an apologist for McKenzie, but I think

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Speaker 1: you're selling Kenzie a little bit short. He was the

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Speaker 1: most dynamic player in the passing game on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to overcome everything that McKenzie

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Speaker 1: has proven to this coaching staff over the past couple

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Speaker 1: of years with just one preseason and a couple of

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Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible for

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Speaker 1: Stevenson to do, but you know, and certainly McKenzie didn't

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Speaker 1: help his case when he muffed a punt in this

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Speaker 1: game and lost the ball. But that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot to overcome for a guy

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Speaker 1: like Stevenson. I mean, you got a guy like McKenzie

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Speaker 1: who was the offense in the Week seventeen game last year,

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Speaker 1: and that was something that actually counted, and he came

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Speaker 1: through big in a game that wasn't a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: it was a real game, so against the number one

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Speaker 1: defense in the league at the time. So it's hard

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Speaker 1: to overcome that if you if you put it in

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Speaker 1: that perspective, but if it is up for grabs and

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Speaker 1: if it is a competition, all yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much of that carries over into this training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's a new year and you build your team from

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Speaker 1: the ground up. True, but I think mackenzie has fared

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Speaker 1: very well. And while everybody remembers the seventy nine yard

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Speaker 1: return for a touchdown by Stevenson last week, we should

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Speaker 1: not forget the fact that McKenzie had a twelve, a fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and a thirty six yard punt return in the game

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Speaker 1: against the Bears as well. So I know that maybe

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Speaker 1: doesn't pop as much on tape or while you're watching

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Speaker 1: a game, but it's pretty important. It shows consistency is

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Speaker 1: hard to return. Is there anybody maybe think about this

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Speaker 1: now they released Lance Lenore? Is there anybody on the

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Speaker 1: roster who is less important than keeping a guy like

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Speaker 1: keeping both McKenzie and Stevenson. Well, you have to keep Kumaro,

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Speaker 1: don't you know? If you keep if you keep seven receiver,

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Speaker 1: all yeah, because Kumarro helps you on special teams too,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, that's just it. If he's this is

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Speaker 1: the debate that you have if you haven't if you

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Speaker 1: have two guys that play special teams and one of

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Speaker 1: them is a better fit offensively or less you know,

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Speaker 1: so maybe Kumaro had a great camp and do all that,

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Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, it's like, well, you got

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Speaker 1: Stevenson and he can give us a big play and

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Speaker 1: Kumarro is gonna cover kicks. Kumaro had a touchdown in

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Speaker 1: the game on Saturday too, us like he also flashed three.

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Speaker 1: He had one catch for a touchdown and three incompletions

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Speaker 1: at him. Yeah, um yeah, I mean that's what you're

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Speaker 1: looking at. If you keep six receivers on this roster, Steve,

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Speaker 1: there is not room for both Kumaro and Stevenson in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, right, I agree, I agree. If you keep seven,

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Speaker 1: maybe there is. Maybe there is. Although and we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: forget that Stevenson left this game with a foot injury.

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Speaker 1: Um so we have to see where that goes going forward. Two,

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Speaker 1: what's his availability like this week? You know that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, that it's gonna be interesting. And if so,

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Speaker 1: if you if you keep nine offensive lineman, if he

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Speaker 1: keeps seven wide receivers, I mean we're already sixteen. Now

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Speaker 1: you got nine guys left for quarterbacks running backs. Talking

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Speaker 1: about keeping an extra running back with Gillian, I mean

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Speaker 1: already talking about that what about What about if you

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Speaker 1: got Gilliam and he gives you all of that and

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones gives you nothing except special teams. Maybe Taiwan

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Speaker 1: Jones is the guy that goes possible. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can rule it out. The problem. The thing that

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Speaker 1: Taiwan gives you is speed, and there's two better have

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Speaker 1: two other guys that can play gunner if he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be. You need some speed and you need size.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, some guys give you one and not

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Speaker 1: the other, and some guys give you the opposite. Um,

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Speaker 1: Gillian gives you size, He's not as fast, but Taiwan

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Speaker 1: gives you speed, and Gillian gives you some other stuff.

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Speaker 1: It gives you a position, stuff get. And Taiwan, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's he got on the field a couple of

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Speaker 1: times last year offensively, but just in spot, dude, you're like,

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Speaker 1: not even a handful of snaps. Um, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: what you start doing. You start squeezing that out. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. Think about how well the special

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Speaker 1: teams played against Chicago. I mean they as good as

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Speaker 1: the offense and defense. It was a three phase clinic.

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Speaker 1: It was it was unbelievable. I've never seen all three

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Speaker 1: phases crush a team. Yeah, they had a punt return

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00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, they blocked an extra point. They they

855
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: tackled on kickoff coverage. They tackled him inside the twenty

856
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and every time inside the twenty five.

857
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: The Bears did not have a single yard on kick

858
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: returns until after the third halfway through the third quarter,

859
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: not a single yard on returns. Because of the touchbacks

860
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: and the coverage, they absolutely crushed him. I mean, I

861
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: don't know if you could have seen a more polar

862
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: opposite example of a team that looks ready for the

863
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: regular season and one that does not. So I'm totally

864
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: with you. We have to take a break here, but

865
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Speaker 1: when we come back more on this discussion. As we

866
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: ask you which back of the roster player has made

867
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: a strong case to make the final fifty three man squad.

868
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to stump for your underdog player.

869
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: Do it now eight oh three oh five fifty one

870
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty open line for

871
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you there, or hit us up on the tweet cheats.

872
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Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more here on one Bill's

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Speaker 1: line presented by Collid to help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio

874
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Welcome Back One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve task It

875
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: with you here on a Tuesday, and a special guest

876
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: at Bill's practice today, Steve who one Bruce Smith is

877
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: out there, as you mentioned at the top of the show,

878
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. Do you have a few pointers

879
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: to some of the young bucks out there on the field.

880
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: What do you think is the best thing that Bruce

881
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: can offer? Because I still remember talking to Marcellis Wiley

882
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: as a young player here, you know, back in the day,

883
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: and he would tell me, Hey, Bruce showed me something

884
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: and told me, hey, you just do this. I tried

885
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: to do it and I fell down, So it doesn't

886
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: really apply to me. So with that in mind, how

887
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: how does Bruce help young pass rushers? Knowing there are

888
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: just some things that he did that really nobody else

889
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, that's certainly the mindset he can help

890
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: with and some new but the nuances are there, I

891
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: mean he he yes, I mean I was with him

892
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: yesterday and you know he was talking to guys and

893
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: what he said he thinks that this team's gonna be

894
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: better defensively. They ain't no doubt about it. I mean,

895
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: I I thought of myself before and Bruce agrees, and

896
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: good knock that he agrees with me. He came to

897
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: the same conclusion watching these guys, they're gonna be better

898
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: up front. I think he's an asset, no question about it.

899
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Nobody has ever rushed the passer as well as he

900
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: has for as long as he did. And you know,

901
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: you get two hundred sacks in this league, you learn things,

902
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: and certainly those guys are going to be smart enough

903
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: to listen to him. Look, I the thing, you know,

904
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: it gets me about this. We're watching this on MSG

905
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: and for those of you on radio, you don't know.

906
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: We're watching highlights. Just a film clip of Bruce out

907
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: at practice talking to guys. He looks like like he's

908
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: in a T shirt, a hat on, backwards shorts, and

909
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: he's like walking around like he wants to stay, like like, hey,

910
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: we got work to do, let's go. I That surprises

911
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: me because usually it has been in the past where

912
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: bruces show up. He'll be in slacks and hard shoes

913
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: and he'd be like, you know, listen, I'm trying to

914
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: look the park today, right. He's like he's got something

915
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: he wants to do today, which is kind of cool

916
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: to see. It's it's not I guess what I'm saying

917
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: is this is not a go through the motions thing. Yeah,

918
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: it's not a ceremonial appearance. I mean there's it's nuts

919
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: and bolts appearance. I mean he's like on the floor, right,

920
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: he's on the floor of the factory showing him what's up.

921
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of cool to me. And I know that

922
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: listen us old guys from the nineties teams, sometimes we

923
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: can be a pain, right, I mean we show up,

924
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're just hanging at whatever, and everybody listens

925
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: for whatever, right or wrong. They kind of listen to

926
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: what we say that this is not that. No, and

927
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: it's neat to see Bruce out there and he looks

928
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: like he's stalking something right, Like he's like he's in

929
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: the mall. He know he's exactly where he's going and

930
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: what he's gonna buy. Right, he's like stalking this thing

931
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: down walking out on practice field. That's different. Yeah, that's different.

932
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: So that's kind of cool, very cool. It is cool.

933
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, so he's out there today, no doubt. Giving

934
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: the pointers to Greg Rousseau and Boogie Basham and I

935
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: found that ajp Andes's comments after the game Steve very

936
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: interesting where he outlined some of their film study and

937
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: how it impacted their approach to Saturday's game based on

938
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: what they picked up off the film. He said, whenever

939
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: the Bears tackles got into a fast kickslide, we were

940
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: going to bullrush because knowing when they're in that fast slide,

941
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: it's very hard for them to reset their feet. So

942
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: if you get them while they're in their slide and

943
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: make contact, you're gonna knock him over and push them

944
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: right back to the quarterback. And that is what they

945
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: did time and time again. AJ rolled that guy that

946
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: right tackle up one Oh my god, back and that's

947
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: the one that we're Dalton threw and it blinked off

948
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: the helmet of the right tackle coming in on the

949
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: other side and it went straight up in there. I

950
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: thought it was for sure it was going to be intercepted.

951
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: It stayed in the air seemingly forever and it had

952
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: just dropped in complete on the ground, but Ajpanessa came

953
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: in gave the jab step on the jab move to

954
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: the shoulder of the right tackle, and he was on

955
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he was on roller skates and

956
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: were there were a number of whacking There were a

957
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: number of offensive linemen on roller skates for the Bears

958
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: last week. It was a really nice rush. They saw

959
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: them in their kick slides and he hit and they bullrushed. Yeah,

960
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: he hit Dalton in the back and rolled him up good.

961
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I said this on the show yesterday, Steve. I thought

962
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson made the roster in Saturday's game. Yeah, he

963
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: played well, he really did. I mean in two games,

964
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson now has one and a half sacks, three

965
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: quarterback hits, a tackle for loss, and a pass break.

966
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because he doesn't get a play

967
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: much and he don't see he doesn't really even flash.

968
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: In the regular season, he played so much special teams

969
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: and he's further down the rotation. He'll get some snaps,

970
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you get from what I observed, you

971
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: get some guys that play like thirty to forty percent

972
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: of the snaps. Then you get guys that played twenty

973
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: five to thirty percent of the snaps, and then the

974
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, and then some that play twenty you know

975
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, They just kind of rotate through and bam,

976
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Johnson's down the guys that played like fifteen or twenty

977
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and he just plays one out

978
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: of every five pass rushing attempts or whatever, just a

979
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: lower level when he gets in the press. He did

980
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: it as a rookie too. He is better then all

981
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: the guys that are struggling to make other teams that

982
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the Bills are playing in the preseason. He always has been.

983
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: When he gets in the preseason game, in the second

984
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: half of these games, he dominates as a pass rushing

985
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: so he doesn't go against starters, but whoever's in there

986
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: in front of him, he's better than them. And it

987
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: shows up every year. It has showed up every year

988
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: of his career. He did it as a rookie and

989
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: he's done it ever since. So that kind of keeps

990
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: him that level of play. Hey, if you're talking about

991
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or somebody, that's great because he's given

992
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: you a world class special teams play and he's better

993
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: than just a guy at his regular position of defensive end.

994
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: So man, how do you cut that? You can't cut that? Yeah,

995
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, he looks that good in the preseason against

996
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: these other teams where these other guys are trying to

997
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: make it. He dominates and I and like I said,

998
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: starters are not it counts. Yeah, we were talking, Manny

999
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: and I were talking about it on the show yesterday.

1000
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a way you can keep six ends

1001
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: if you go a little lighter at linebacker and for me,

1002
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Bam Johnson's your sixth end and he's on the roster. Yeah,

1003
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: and then you go what you go ten up front? Yeah. Yeah,

1004
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: there's a way to get there. Yeah. Yeah, I think

1005
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: on the defense side of the ball, you always talk

1006
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: about keeping your best fifty three. You know, he's the

1007
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: only way around. The only other way around that is

1008
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: moving somebody off the roster by trade. If you want

1009
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: to do that, I get it, because the Bills play

1010
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: only two linebackers. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a way

1011
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: around it. There's a workaround where you can keep six ends.

1012
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: As crazy as that may sound, I agree. We have

1013
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: to take a break here when we come back more

1014
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: roster discussion. As we are asking you which back of

1015
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: the roster player has made a strong case to make

1016
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: the final fifty three man roster. Give us your underdog

1017
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: favorite on the tweet sheet or on the phones eight

1018
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty Steve Tasker Chris Brown back

1019
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: for our number two here in a second on one

1020
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1021
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has spent all over the field.

1022
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

1023
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

1024
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: in the stratosphere of normalcy. Here we are our number

1025
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: two on a Tuesday. Look at those foot fires from

1026
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: stuff Von Diggs. Our MSG viewers are watching him work

1027
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: the ladder drill as he is back in practice. You

1028
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: got some fancy feat Steve. I've seen your work that

1029
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: ladder or I can't even climb the ladder at my house,

1030
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: the top shelf of the pantry. Interesting about you know,

1031
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: seeing Diggs out there because he's you know, the knee,

1032
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: and he was in you know, you always think and

1033
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: I got us rightfully. So I mean, if we're in

1034
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: the preseason, we're in the bubble wrap mode. So I

1035
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: figure they're gonna wait till Diggs is a one thousand

1036
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: percent healthy before he's allowed anywhere near his helmet. So

1037
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: now having him back out there foot fire and kind

1038
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: of spells good things right going forward that it's not

1039
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: going to be a lingual. I would say, yes, right,

1040
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of I mean, come on, right, So, you know,

1041
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: good to see him out there and getting work in.

1042
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: Some interesting news out of New England coach Belichick. As

1043
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: we know, and as we covered on the show yesterday,

1044
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is in a five day re entry COVID

1045
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: protocol all after missing a day of testing, and yeah,

1046
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: because it was through some miscommunication, he tested somewhere and

1047
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to do that that day at that facility.

1048
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: He was supposed to test somewhere else, and so it

1049
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: was considered a misday of testing. And so now he

1050
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: has to go through a five day re entry period,

1051
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: which indicates that he is unvaccinated. And so Belichick was

1052
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: asked today with Cam Newton out, is this a big

1053
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: opportunity for mac Jones. Belichick's answer, it is, yes. I

1054
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: was talking to Maddie about it yesterday. Steve. Can you

1055
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: imagine Cam Newton losing what is arguably and in my opinion,

1056
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: probably his last best opportunity to start in this league

1057
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: because he has to do a five day re entry

1058
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: under the COVID protocols based on a miscommunication as to

1059
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: where to get tested. It wouldn't be because of that. Wow,

1060
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna help him. He's gonna he's gonna miss okay,

1061
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: joint practices. Here's what I think. Mac Jones is a

1062
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: better fit for what the Patriots want to do offensively

1063
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: than Cam Newton is. Cam Newton brings something. I think

1064
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: what happens And here's my call on New England, I

1065
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm a million miles away. I'm a whatever.

1066
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of a mic. The Patriots play Miami

1067
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: week one, the Jets week two. You want to talk

1068
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: about a soft start, You can't get any softer than that. Yeah,

1069
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: your two division opponents who are strugging, both one with

1070
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and the other with a second year quarterback.

1071
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Nobody has any faith in Yeah, that's if you're gonna Mac.

1072
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: I take Mac Jones over both those jokers right now.

1073
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm Zach Wilson. Maybe Zach Wilson gonna be, But

1074
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's on the worst team. The Jets, hep don't

1075
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: have a roster like the Patriots do, and the Jets

1076
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: got decimated by injuries in Green Bay with their joint

1077
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: practices last week. So so you take the Patriots schedule Dolphins, Jets.

1078
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: Then it gets tough they go Saints Buccaneers. But you've

1079
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: got two weeks under your belt with a rookie quarterback

1080
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: and then he's you know, he's kind of feeling it

1081
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: and you can kind of get it a feel for

1082
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: what you can do and what you can't do against

1083
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: some real opponents. Then you get then okay, Plus Cam

1084
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Newton has got a package of plays every game, short yardage,

1085
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: goal line, all of that stuff. You put Cam Newton

1086
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: in there and he runs short yardage goal line for

1087
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and you hit the season. Yeah. I think

1088
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the best way to do it. Yeah.

1089
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean they're talking about how this is a tight

1090
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: race right now, but how much can you trust what

1091
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: you're seeing in preseason? A lot of these defense his

1092
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: playing soft underneath coverage, you know, a lot of zone

1093
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: they don't want to show anything. The reds are easier

1094
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I think Mac Jones is gonna get

1095
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: thrown out hand full of stuff he's never seen before.

1096
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: If he's playing week Yeah, he's gonna get thrown more

1097
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: than a handful. He's gonna get thrown. He's gonna get buckets, bucket,

1098
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna get buckets pored over his head. So yeah,

1099
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean that may be, but sooner or later. And

1100
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: I just he does have a good offensive line in

1101
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: front of him. That's a plus, which means they're gonna

1102
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball. That's a huge plus.

1103
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Not everybody can say that, Trevor Lawrence. So I'm I'm this.

1104
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Do you see Trevor Lawrence was under pressure on over

1105
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: forty seven percent of his dropbacks last night. He just

1106
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: let me just let me just go here. If you're

1107
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback in the first round, particularly at

1108
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: the top of the first round, nothing you should do

1109
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: nothing else as an organization except pull in every offensive

1110
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: lineman draft every every other pick in the draft should

1111
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: be an offensive lineman or running back or tied weapons

1112
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: or protection. Mostly protection. If you're gonna draft a guy

1113
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: that high, nothing else matters for your entire offseason, then

1114
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: to protect that kid and give him a running give

1115
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: him an offensive line that can dominate, let him hand

1116
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: it off, and then throw a play action. Do not

1117
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: just ride into the regular season with the same guys

1118
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: who got you the first pick of the draft. Let

1119
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: your I mean run through the run through the litany

1120
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks here over the years that have failed because

1121
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: the protection was not sufficient in front of them. I

1122
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: don't can't saying that's the only reason Jplassman, Trent Edwards

1123
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: and EJ. Manual failed here. It's not, but it was

1124
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: part of the reason. It was part of the reason.

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you put eleven scarecrows on defense,

1126
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not expecting to win the Super

1127
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: Bowl anyway. Give the kid a chance to be six successful. Yeah,

1128
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: even the Bills. The Bills got caught doing that too.

1129
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Now they weren't. They were not planning on playing Josh

1130
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: Allen at all in his rookie season, or at least sparingly.

1131
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: And he just you know, thrown in. That offensive line

1132
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: was a train wreck three years ago. That that was

1133
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: his you know, and everybody's like, well, he's running around

1134
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, the offensive line was horrible. They completely

1135
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: revamped it in twenty nineteen. Okay, he was much better,

1136
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,479
Speaker 1: and then of course last year there was a bust

1137
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: out season. But man, oh Man, you can't draft a

1138
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: kid at the top of the first round and think

1139
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna be successful and he's got an offensive line

1140
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: that is, yeah, non competitive. That's why I give the

1141
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Jets credit. Now, GM Joe Douglas in New York is

1142
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman himself. He recognizes the importance of

1143
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: protecting Zach Wilson. They already had McKay Beckton from the

1144
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: year before in the draft. They add Elijah Vera Tucker.

1145
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: They add Morgan Moses late in the free agent period.

1146
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: So they've got players to protect Zach will they're trying

1147
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: to help him succeed, and they got him weapons too.

1148
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: But they made a point of improving the offensive line.

1149
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: You know. The Dolphins did the same thing, Austin Jackson

1150
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: at left tackle. You know, they get they drafted a

1151
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: couple other guys a little bit later in the draft. Um,

1152
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, they made a point of adding protection. There's

1153
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: no I don't know if the Jaguars have done enough.

1154
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: There's health love lost between us and the Bills and

1155
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: the New New England Patriots, but man, they did it. Yeah,

1156
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they did, man, Jones and brought all

1157
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: those guys back. Yeah, Trent Barron back via trade with

1158
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They had on when you who has been

1159
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: a sixth round gem of a find, who's a starting

1160
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: guard now? Isaiah Wynn is finally healthy, a former first

1161
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: round pick to play left tackle. Brought back Ted Carriss

1162
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: from the Dolphins right and he's a backup. I mean

1163
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: because they got Andrew who's back at center, who's now

1164
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: healthy after that scary blood disorder that he had um

1165
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: and the right guard Shack Mason, who's been a start

1166
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: in the last four years for them. They got a

1167
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: good group. Yeah, they're gonna be very tough. I think

1168
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: that's I think the Patriots are really gonna be good

1169
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: this year. I'm I'm more concerned about the Patriots than

1170
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: I am about the Dolphins. Oh. Absolutely absolutely, It's not

1171
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: even close for me. Yeah. Back to the tweet sheet

1172
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: where we're asking you which back of the roster player

1173
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: has made a case to make the final fifty three

1174
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: man roster, Max says the entire defensive end group. Lol Johnson,

1175
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: epinessa bash him and fa Obada. Now, I don't know

1176
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: if you would call epinessa back of the roster player.

1177
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: M Johnson Okay, bash him, I can get there, fa Obada, Okay,

1178
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: all of them. Actually, it looked really good in a

1179
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: very competitive edge position. There's gonna be some pressure on

1180
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, probably keeping ten to eleven. D Lineman,

1181
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Now I can't keep eleven. They might keep ten, Steve,

1182
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, fa Obada, I'm a little concerned about.

1183
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you mean like he's not I

1184
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: don't know. If he's making a queeze down, he'll make it,

1185
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: I think. But here's the thing. I loved what Leslie

1186
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: Fraser said today when we had him on. We had

1187
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: him on top of the show, Top of the show,

1188
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: and then they said, well you got too many guys,

1189
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: is it? Listen? He said, if you have the right guys,

1190
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: give me too many of them. That's what he said.

1191
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: That's a great problem to have. If you have the

1192
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: right guys, give me too many of them. It's a

1193
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: great line. And you hope that's where the Bills feel

1194
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: like they're at because it seems like they've got the talent. Talent. Okay,

1195
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: but we all know here, particularly here in Buffalo, talent. Okay,

1196
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: that's great, but are they the right guys and that's

1197
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: what they're finding out. Certainly they know better than we

1198
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: do what kind of guys these are, you know, behind

1199
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: the scenes and when they're walking around talking to them,

1200
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: what kind of human being they are, because they all

1201
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: certainly look to be like talented enough players to win

1202
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: games with if they've got the right guys, which we

1203
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: hope they do. Yeah, give them too many of them.

1204
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: And that's what Leslie Fraser said today. You're right, I yeah,

1205
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: you really don't want to get rid of any of

1206
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: these guys, which then it becomes an exercise in the

1207
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: front office properly assessing the value of going heavy at

1208
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: defensive line at the expense of costing you a player

1209
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: you feel you might need at another position on your

1210
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. And if that is the case

1211
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: and the numbers don't work, then you have to explore

1212
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: the trade market and say, look, we'd like to have

1213
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: all these guys right now, but it's just not going

1214
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: to work. If we put him on the practice squad,

1215
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna get poached. And we already have these four

1216
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: guys we want to protect on the practice squad every

1217
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: week so we don't lose them. So why are we

1218
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: going to put this guy on the practice squad risk

1219
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: losing him to another team for nothing, when the opportunity

1220
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: exists to trade him for some commodity that we can

1221
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: use in the future, whether it's a draft choice or

1222
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: whether it's a player at another position that would help them.

1223
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: So that is going to have to I think, because

1224
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: of the way, because of how deep this roster is, Steve,

1225
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: there are going to be a couple of positions where

1226
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Brandon being in his personnel department, I'm gonna have to

1227
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: take a long, hard look at it and say, because

1228
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: we can't keep them, we need to explore trading player

1229
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: X so we can at least get something in return

1230
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: for the future, knowing we can't keep this player now

1231
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: and we don't want to lose him for nothing. We

1232
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: were talking just a minute ago about these quarterback like

1233
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: mac Jones and Cam Newton being out for five days

1234
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: and if it was an opportunity it seems, though it's

1235
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: been reported in New England, Mac Jones had forty one

1236
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: snaps in eleven on eleven work today in New England

1237
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: because Cam's not there, think about it, completed eighteen of

1238
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: his first twenty. But he's that right there's a day's work.

1239
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: Five days is an eon. Oh my gosh, of time

1240
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: to miss in a competition, an eon in football. Yeah,

1241
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I said yesterday, and I didn't think

1242
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: I was overstating it. In a tight quarterback race, you

1243
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: miss five days in including one day of joint practices

1244
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 1: that the Patriots have scheduled for later this week. I'm

1245
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, if this race is as close

1246
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: as it's purported to be, how how awful would it

1247
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: be for Cam Newton to lose his last best chance

1248
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: of starting in this league, at least as I see it,

1249
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: because of a miscommunication on a testing thing that causes

1250
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: you to enter a five day reentry protocol thing with COVID. Yeah,

1251
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting, that's the question. It's foolish that you

1252
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: can see coming down the road. Did Mac Jones get

1253
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Belichick? Did Mac Jones get the starting job

1254
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: in large measure because Cam wasn't there to take the

1255
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: reps that he got so many reps over the last

1256
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: five days. And what's the answer. That was part of it? Yeah,

1257
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: it was part of it. So then you go, you

1258
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: take the next step, and you know everybody has their

1259
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: reasons who are not vaccine, right, But everybody has their

1260
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: reasons for not getting vaccinated. The people that are on

1261
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: vaccinated that are still out there, they all have their reasons. Fine,

1262
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: they say it's a personal decision. That's what It's so

1263
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: head scratching for me about Cam Newton. He chose to

1264
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 1: continue to be unvaccinated this year after missing a game

1265
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: last year experiencing brain fog where he couldn't even execute

1266
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: the decision making necessary to play the position in the

1267
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: regular season, and now he remains unvaccinated and it could

1268
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: contribute to him not winning the starting job in New England.

1269
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: Tell me that's not a personal decision that would have

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Speaker 1: made more. It's your own career. You're talking about it

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: because when you were when we're growing up, everybody, when

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Speaker 1: you're growing up and you get a cold here or whatever, whatever,

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01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: you feel like your body gets immune to it and

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: kicks it out. And some people feel and it's we

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: grew up with that mantra. Well, if you've had it already,

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01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to get it again. It doesn't work

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: in this one. Lamar Jackson got it again. This one's

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: a crusher because it comes back. He missed two weeks

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Speaker 1: of training, the first two weeks a training camp after

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: missing a game last year. So some people are still

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: telling us as they have had it, and so I'm

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm kind of feeling like I'm good. Well, you might

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: be for ninety days because you're antibodies are through the roof,

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, I have you getting through COVID and if

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: you're fortunate enough to come out on the right side

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01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: of it, ninety days for you, sixty days for me. Well,

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what, I'm hundred and ten for you.

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: Who knows. It's crazy though. Yeah, they say the antibodies

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: are super high on average for about ninety days after

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: you come out of contracting COVID if you're fortunate enough

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01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: to survive. So yeah, um, I don't know, yeah, but

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be amazing to me if mac Jones takes

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: this opportunity and runs with it and just puts Cam

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror and what can Cam do

1295
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: sit at home and go into virtual meetings? Oof? Well

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean that oof, And I'm not. I'm not I'm not,

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, grand standing on Cam Newton, but I'm not

1298
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: trying to pay the call you got. That's kind of

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01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: part of the possible ability you make when you make

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: that call. And I'm not saying that's the only reason

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: you should have gotten vaccinated. I'm just saying you gotta

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: know it's possible. Well, I just yeah, And I'm not

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01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: trying to pass judgment on him either. I just he's

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: a guy that has chosen not to get vaccinated, even

1305
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: though he dealt with some issues from the virus last year,

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: and that you know it's a personal choice. But if

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: it's a personal choice, why are you jeopardizing your chance

1308
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: to start by not getting vaccinated? Knowing going into this

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: that unvaccinated players are going to face much stricter regulations

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,480
Speaker 1: and restrictions if they were either A a close contact

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: or B test positive. Yeah, this is It's really tough

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: because different protocols for vaccinated unvaccinated people, even in society

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01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,879
Speaker 1: out and about in different states. We were in Chicago

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01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: this last weekend for the Bears Bills game. Citywide mandate

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,440
Speaker 1: if you're inside you gotta have your masks on restaurants,

1316
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: hotel lobbies, every unless you're actively eating or drinking, you

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: have to have your mask on. Um. It was mostly

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Speaker 1: adhered to by people, mostly because you know, it was

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: back and forth. Now you got protocols too, where you

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: got you know, players who are unvaccinated also can't leave

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: their hotel room and stuff, but the players who are

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: vaccinated can. So they're out milling around, going out to dinner.

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: They're that they got whatever, and they're out in the

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, the lobby. And and then this is bears

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: guys too. You know, they're and it's completely they're almost

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: whether they're like a normal part of the population. Yeah,

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01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: and then but then they're interacting with everybody who's tiered

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: and even even us in the media, we were like

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01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: sequestered away from you know, zoom meetings and all that stuff.

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,480
Speaker 1: It's tough to draw a line between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: That is justin fair because you know, five percent of

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Speaker 1: the people who are vaccinated are gonna you know, have

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: breakthrough infection because it's only right effective. Man, we live

1334
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: in a crazy world. Bro Oh, it's crazy right now.

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: It is so nuts. It's crazy right now. This is

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01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: so nonsenses. It's not going to get bills and Mets

1337
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: fans says, with that rock'em sock'em robot near decapitation of

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and his side to side quickness. I think

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01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: Andre Smith makes this roster and can play a significant

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: role if there are injuries to the starters You're not

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: he may supplant Kline in playing time. That's just what

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: you were getting at Steve Andre Smith. I think we

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01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: can definitively say is a better overall athlete than AJ Klein.

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01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: Now what value does that give him over a J.

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Speaker 1: Klein when this coaching staff is making decisions, Because obviously

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Speaker 1: what Klein has is a firm working knowledge of this

1347
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: defensive scheme. You could line him up at any position

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01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 1: in a pinch. The only catches You're going to have

1349
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: to scheme him in a much different way than you

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: do Milano or Edmonds. As we saw last season, they

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01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: plugged him in when Edmonds and Milana were out of

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: the lineup and asked him to play one of those

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01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: two roles, and it proved to be difficult for him.

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: And so fortunately for him, Fraser and the defensive staff

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: adjusted what his role would be, had him operate more

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: going forward then backwards into coverage, and he was a

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01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 1: more effective player for them. So what is the value

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: there and how does it compare to what Andrea Smith

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: has shown you in the preseason, which I will admit

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: has been downright impressive. Yeah, that to me is Andre

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: Smith's way onto the roster. AJ Klein and I'll say this,

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about it. AJ Klein was miscast

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01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: in coming in and replacing Matt Milana. Um. He was

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01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: not supposed to fill that role. And it took the

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff a minute, like, you know, a couple of

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: weeks to figure out they weren't gonna have AJ Klein

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: replaced Matt milana. They were gonna have a J. Klein

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,440
Speaker 1: play a different position in Matt Milano's spot and kleintj

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: clins to trying to get him to be a Matt Milano.

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: They played much better from that point forward, as did

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Speaker 1: AJ Klein, But he had a monster game against Seattle. Yeah,

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01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: Klein lacks the speed that Smith does and athleticism. It

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: just that's that could be one of the things that

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: that surprises people. Maybe a J. Klein doesn't make the

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: roster because of Andre Smith or or Tyrrell Dodson. Still,

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: you know they've got some guys that are giles. Because

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, you can say that about AJ

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 1: Klein about knowing the ins and out of the defense.

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: These other guys have been in there a minute too.

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: They should know this. They should not be at an

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: i ability. And Andre Smith comes from Carolina where they

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: played a similar version of this defensive scheme, so it's

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: not like he hasn't been in it before. He was

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: here all last year even though he played largely on

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: special teams. So yeah, I think that possibility does exist.

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: So I think Bills and Mets fan is bang on

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: with that comment on the tweet sheet, no question about it.

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: We will take a break here, but when we come

1389
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: back Morrior comments on the tweet sheet, we'll see if

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: there's some time for a little bit of lunch. Maybe

1391
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: we'll do a little What's for Lunch with you. Don't

1392
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: forget third hour the show. We've got NFL Networks Brian

1393
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: Baldinger joining us. He has been high on the Bills

1394
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: pass rushers based on some of his film cutups that

1395
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: he's been watching, so we'll catch up with him in

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: the third hour the program. Plenty more to come here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health, It's

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Second half of the show underway on

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. One Bills

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: Live is the name of the program as our MSG

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: viewers are watching one Davis White work on his ball

1402
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: skills when some extra work on the side while the

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: special teams period is undoubtedly taking place. One hand in

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: him Ah, no gloves either? No, how about that? Pretty impressive? Nice.

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: We are Trag White. We are working on the tweet

1406
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: sheet where you have submitted some very good and I

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: think well thought out responses which back of the roster

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: player has made a strong case to make the final

1409
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. We've seen mostly back of the

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: roster players through these first two preseason games. Not many

1411
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: starters have suited up and played against Detroit or Chicago.

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: It could change for the Green Bay game coming up.

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier today, when asked what he still

1414
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: needs from his defense going forward, said we need to

1415
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: get some veterans some time on task, which I think

1416
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: is an indication that the veterans and the starters may

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: get a little bit of playing time this weekend. We'll

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: have to see maybe maybe Trdavious White, Pourer and Hide

1419
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: get in the game. Star if you know this situa.

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: We don't know his situation right now. Star and Milano

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01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: are you know, out of the mix for the next

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: couple of days. The coach Fraser confirmed they're not here.

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: A J. Klein, same thing, So there might be some

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: guys who do. Harrison Phillips is battling an injury, probably

1425
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: not going to get it after the game. So yeah,

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 1: what that means certainly kind of means there's a desire

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: at least on the defense for the defensive for it

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: will be a strong concier iteration, I think is safe

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01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: to say, at the very least. What about I wonder

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: what day Ball is going to say about his guys.

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 1: We will find that out tomorrow as he is scheduled

1432
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: to address the media, although he may ultimately defer to

1433
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: coach McDermott as he typically has done in the past.

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: Not only this, we you know, we saw just as

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01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: we came back, a live shot or semi live shot.

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: I think it was a live shot of Tdavis. It

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: was a shot of shot of Tdavious practicing today, catching

1438
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: working on his ball skills. He's actually you'd go back,

1439
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: we're having Brian Balding or from Baldy's breakdowns coming on

1440
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: at two o'clock or a half hour or so on

1441
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: the show, and he Tredavius is one of the top

1442
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: six guys in that entire draft class if you go

1443
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: back and look at the two, which he did. He

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: went back and got the twenty seventeen draft class and

1445
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: ranked it. Trey White's right up there with the top

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: guys in that class, which is guys like Alvin Kamaras Mahomes,

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: Deshaun Wattson, t J Watt, George Kittle. That's that draft class,

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01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: and Turdavious White is behind those guys, and he's right

1449
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: ahead of Miles Garrett. Yeah, so it's good to see that.

1450
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: Russ will ask body about it when we come on.

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01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: Rusty on the tweet sheet says, for me, my back

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: half of the roster. Guy to make the squad is Zimmer.

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: The guy has a motor that won't stop. Nice speed

1454
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: for a big guy, and the staff likes him. He's

1455
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: been called a glue guy and just makes plays. His

1456
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: presence in the room will put him on the fifty three.

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: Also thinking they may have to keep seven wide receivers

1458
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: because Stevenson keeps flashing. Let's take the first part of

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: that first, Steve Zimmer, has he made his case? Is

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01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: he if they only keep four dts, is he one

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: of the four? I don't know that he is because

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01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: you're talking Star Phillips. Where does Vernon Butler fit in there?

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01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: And then at Oliver who's available? Well? Yeah, and the

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: Phillip's injury could be a factor in this. Yeah. Yeah.

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: If Zimmer stays healthy, he's on the field, and that

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: doesn't there's no guarantees going forward. Yeah, Harrison Phillips has

1467
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: been on and off right over the last couple of years.

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: I thought he was having a really good camp, he

1469
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: was playing well in the preseason, and then this injury

1470
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: crops up and it's the same knee that he tore

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01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: his ACL on two years. It's like, oh, man alive?

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: Can this guy catch? So Zimmer may make it, not

1473
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: not because he hasn't played well or because he hasn't

1474
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: earned it by default as well that he may be

1475
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: the last guy standing who's healthy. How about him running

1476
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: down that screen pass from behind out at the sideline.

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Speaker 1: The guy can guy, the guy can scoot. There's a

1478
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: spot for him like that. Now, there's not that many

1479
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: spots for guys like that. But and he already got

1480
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: one in at Oliver. You know, so, Zimmer and at Oliver,

1481
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: I think to me are the same kind of guy.

1482
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: Guys can run guys down or explode into the backfield,

1483
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing, a little undersized, although Zimmer's

1484
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: heavier than at Oliver is about ten pounds. I don't

1485
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: know how you worked that, because this is a team

1486
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: that worked very hard at getting bigger and more physical

1487
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: upfront on both sides of the ball, and I don't

1488
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 1: know if Zimmer fits into that. Yeah plan. What do

1489
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: we think about the idea of seven receivers? As we

1490
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: mentioned on our one Bills Like podcast last week, which

1491
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: you can still listen to on any of your podcast

1492
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: platforms if you want to pull it up, we discussed

1493
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: the prospect of seven receivers. You may be surprised to

1494
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: know that seven teams in the NFL carried seven receivers

1495
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: on their active roster in twenty twenty sixteen teams carried

1496
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: six receivers, including the Bills, and nine teams carried just

1497
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,879
Speaker 1: five wide receivers. The likelihood, Steve, of this team carrying

1498
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: seven receivers, where do you peg it? Ten percent? Forty

1499
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: percent eighty percent. I think I think it's I think

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: where I'm in favor. I think that's going to happen.

1501
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: I think Stevenson is prompting that decision in your mind

1502
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: just thinking that. I'm thinking trends in the league, and

1503
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: I think the way this offense is built and they

1504
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: want they want to have guys available who are in

1505
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: it and on it and up on game day and

1506
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: ready for that. I think it's a fifty fifty proposition,

1507
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: right at least That's where I'm at. To me, it's

1508
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: a I think they're gonna lean towards. They're gonna look,

1509
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: they'll do some research and they'll look at other teams

1510
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: who had seven wide outs, look at them where it

1511
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: limited them and where it didn't, and perhaps those limitations

1512
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 1: are where the bill would be. Bills would be very strong,

1513
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Particularly since they're the Bills, like,

1514
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: for instance, linebacker, they'll only keep five of them. That's

1515
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: a spot that you can throw right back to the

1516
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, right And the benefit that

1517
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: you could have conceivably with this roster and keeping seven

1518
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: receivers is if you keep Mackenzie, Kumero and Stevenson. Those

1519
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 1: three receivers are all receivers that can help you on

1520
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, every single one of them. Let's let's

1521
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: go down. Let's let's okay. The problem is McKenzie and

1522
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: Stevenson do the same thing. But maybe you put Stevenson

1523
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: on kickoffs and McKenzie on punch maybe they can be gunners.

1524
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, think about it. So you got Digs, Sanders, Beasley, Davis, Davis.

1525
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: So that's four right there, Okay, McKenzie five, Okay, McKenzie, Kumar, Kumar, McKenzie,

1526
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: that's six, six all right? Then who is it Isaiah

1527
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: Hodgins or Markeez Stevenson. It's it's Stevenson right now. Hodgens

1528
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: has been out, he hasn't done enough. It's Stevenson. I

1529
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: don't even think it's close, as as much as it

1530
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: pains me to say that, because I like, see that's

1531
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: the thing. I like Hodgensdgens is probably on the practice squad. Yeah,

1532
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so too. Tight end,

1533
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: you've got five on the right, well, four on the

1534
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: roster now luster five O five that's right. Hollister Becker,

1535
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: Nate Becker, who's been on the practice squad for a

1536
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: few years. Quintin Morris is the undrafted kid, the rookie,

1537
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: and Sweeney who's got a foot injury. Rox and Sweeney. Yeah, hm,

1538
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: there's five you're only gonna keep. You're probably only keeping

1539
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: three if you're keeping seven receivers. So that I would say,

1540
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: what Knox, Hollister X Hollister and Sweeney if he's healthy,

1541
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: or Becker or maybe Quentin Moree gives you a little

1542
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: bit more than Becker, Okay, all right, and then you

1543
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: probably put Becker and or Morris on the practice squad. Yeah,

1544
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: and keep him there. There's a lot. There's a lot

1545
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: that goes into this, and it's amazing. After going seven

1546
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: deep at wide receiver, Isaiah Hodgins is squeezed out. I'm

1547
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 1: telling you right now, he may go on the practice squad,

1548
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: but that that's a kid that's gonna get clipped. He's

1549
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: gonna get he's gonna get plucked right by another team. Yeah,

1550
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: he's gonna get plucked by another team. I don't know,

1551
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe after Yeah, it's gonna be hard for this

1552
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff to thread the needle at this roster this year.

1553
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard, really hard. Threading the needle is

1554
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know what analogy to

1555
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: make of it. But you gotta win games. That's it.

1556
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: No matter how this slides. They could keep five wide

1557
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: receivers and if they if they are all available, that's fine.

1558
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: You know, if they got a bunch of teamers that

1559
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: they want to keep or whatever other positions, it doesn't matter.

1560
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: All it comes down to is winning games, and they

1561
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: got to do it the best way they can. Nick, Sorry,

1562
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: we just did uh get Rusty? Oh we did Rusty.

1563
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: So we are up to Nick, who kind of has

1564
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: the same feelings. I know he's already everyone's favorite, but

1565
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: I really think we need Kumero, even if it means

1566
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: keeping seven receivers. He's done things with his size this

1567
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: preseason that no one else can. That is true. I

1568
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: think he's on the roster though. I think he's here.

1569
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: He caught a touchdown against the Bears, but he didn't

1570
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: have that great a game. No played well the week before.

1571
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: He's practice has been very good in camp. So I

1572
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: think about the body of work and I think there's

1573
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: enough there to justify a spot for him. Maybe who's

1574
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: done more who with the receiver position has done more.

1575
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: That is a really good question. Maybe Stevenson late here

1576
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: in the game has done more in the games. Don't

1577
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: forget you got two weeks to go here, that's right,

1578
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: you got two weeks and these two have one week

1579
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: really before you got to make cuts to fifty three.

1580
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: Next week will count just as much, and if particularly

1581
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: if it's close. But these next two weeks, these next

1582
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 1: five six days, are just as important as the first

1583
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,839
Speaker 1: week at training camp where these guys were all googling

1584
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: and oggling. It's what happens if Kumro disappears. Yeah, you know,

1585
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: because it could happen. It happens a lot in the NFL.

1586
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: You get a guy who starts out like a like

1587
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: an all pro player at his position during training camp

1588
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: in the first week, and all of a sudden, by

1589
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: week three of training camp, by week four of training camp,

1590
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: or the third or fourth preseason game in years past,

1591
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: they just disappear and you're like, it's like the kid

1592
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: wore out already heard a little bit. I mean, Duke

1593
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: Williams was waved injured yesterday. Lance Lenora was clipped today

1594
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: to get the roster down to eighty one. So the

1595
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: Herd has already been thinned at wide receiver. There's not

1596
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: much competition left. I mean, you're talking Tanner, Gentry, Brandon Powell,

1597
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins, Jake Kumerow, I mean, and Stevenson. That's the

1598
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: back half of the receiving corps right now. Yeah, it's

1599
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 1: it's a deep group, not as deep as it was, no,

1600
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: but it's still the guys that are there. The guys

1601
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: that are there are playing really well. I've really played well.

1602
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, gonna be tough to thread the needle.

1603
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have some I think they're gonna

1604
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: have some preferences that that, yes, that don't go as

1605
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: deep as what we just don't. Yeah, we just don't

1606
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: know what those are because we're not in the meaning rooms.

1607
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: We're not, and I wonder too. Practice tape every day.

1608
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to really anticipate this because there's always some

1609
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: gamesmanship with who you cut and win and who gets

1610
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: back on the practice squad. Is an example, he cut

1611
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: Lancel North the first cut, giving everybody the impression that's like, wow,

1612
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: he was really bad. He's worse than all these other

1613
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: guys on their roster. Then a week later he's back

1614
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: on your practice squad and you're glad to have him. Yeah,

1615
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: I thought he was a practice squad candidate. I still do,

1616
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: so that would not surprise me. Yeah, you give the

1617
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: impression that you really have no place for him, knowing

1618
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: all the time that you just you tell him to

1619
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: stay busy because you're gonna have him back in a

1620
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: week break time for us. Here Steve and I with

1621
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: more roster discussion Brian Baldinger coming up at the top

1622
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: of the hour. Stay tuned here on One Bill's Live,

1623
01:26:47,640 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: presented by Cloud of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back.

1624
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: You're sifting through the tweet sheet here as we're looking

1625
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: for your underdog favorites, players on the back half of

1626
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: the roster who have made a great case to get

1627
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: a spot on the fifty three man squad, and Chris

1628
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet says, this is a tough one,

1629
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: but I'd have to take one guy. It's Marquez Stevenson.

1630
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: He's had a real good showing in the first two

1631
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: games of the preseason. He balled out. If he continues,

1632
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: I think the Bill should put him on the fifty

1633
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: three man roster. The kid can play the speedy train

1634
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:44,440
Speaker 1: is often running. Steve. Let me just say this, don't

1635
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: be seduced, oh good word, by a couple of flashy

1636
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: plays that, even if they made a difference in the game.

1637
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: So you got Marquess Stevenson has the punt return of

1638
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: the catch and Detroit Froy that sets him up for

1639
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. He has the punt return

1640
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago which was extremely well blocked up front, and

1641
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: he did everything right. I mean, it was a great play.

1642
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Don't be seduced by that. Let's remind ourselves of what

1643
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: happened to Christian Wade when he touched the ball for

1644
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: the first two times in an NFL game. He's been

1645
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: on the practice squad ever since. Yep. Those flashy plays,

1646
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: while they give you a sense of what the guy

1647
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: is capable of, don't give you a full representation of

1648
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: his evaluation in the eyes of the coaching staff and

1649
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: the scouting staff. So you know, I'm gonna pump the

1650
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: brakes on Marquez Stevenson a little bit. Not that I

1651
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's a good player, but one of the

1652
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: buggaboos about him in college was his availability injuries and

1653
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: when he walked into the end zone after that punt return,

1654
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: he was he never saw him again either, and he

1655
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: went in he went in for an X ray. I

1656
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: mean he didn't even get tackled. I mean it was

1657
01:28:54,479 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: non contact and he was limping prior to that, so

1658
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: it was I mean, no question, it was a great play.

1659
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how much space he had. It was embarrassing.

1660
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't when he caught that how about sixteen on

1661
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: the last five yards there, you're not telling me he

1662
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: couldn't have wrapped him up, did you see that? Apparently not?

1663
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: That was the punter. Yeah, I'm just I mean, what

1664
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: is that guy doing. He's got MSG Viewers are watching

1665
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: the punt return video and as Stevenson gets by his

1666
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: last blocker, Bam Johnson, who he decides not to wait

1667
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: for the punters there look at him. He's just kind

1668
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: of escorting him into the end zone. If you're watching

1669
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: that film and you're the Bear special teams coach, you're done.

1670
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: You don't even make a tackle attempt, right, You're running

1671
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 1: alongside him like an escort. The Bears looked horrible. They

1672
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: looked like the Dolphins did in the second half a

1673
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: week seventeen. Yes, they looked disinterest, unprepared. They looked like

1674
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: non competitive in any way you want to shape it.

1675
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: They had a couple of guys. It wasn't just the

1676
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: punder there at the end, but he was within It

1677
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: looked like if he would have lunged, he would have

1678
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: had him around the waist, let alone the heels. And

1679
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: there was a couple of guys another number forty eight

1680
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: there comes across and tries to He doesn't even try

1681
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: to make a tackle. He just runs past Stevenson and

1682
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: watches him go back the other way. It was embarrassing.

1683
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing, I mean, and I get it. It's a

1684
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: second half of a I guess it was a second half,

1685
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: second half of the of a preseason game. So you

1686
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: got some guys out there who you know are struggling

1687
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, but they were struggling a lot. Yeah,

1688
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: And as fired up as people are for Stevenson, I

1689
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: understand he's flashed. He's made some big plays, he's helped

1690
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: the team when certainly the first game, the second was

1691
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: already over before he did what he did. I will

1692
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: be maintain that McKenzie has done more. Certainly in that

1693
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: last game, the first two scoring drives McKenzie is targeted

1694
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: seven times and makes six receptions. Mitchell Trubisky went to

1695
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: him on three consecutive plays, including a third and ten conversion,

1696
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: because he was getting consistent separation and what McKenzie showed

1697
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: me in that game, and he showed consistency on special

1698
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: teams twelve, fourteen and thirty six yards on punt returns.

1699
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve, I've heard you say it. Any punt

1700
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: returner that averages over ten yards a return is worth

1701
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: his weight in gold because that's one less first down

1702
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: your offense has to get to go score. And just

1703
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: as much as I said, listen those great plays like

1704
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the Christian Wade plays when he got in and then

1705
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: of course the Marquess Stevenson plays here in the last

1706
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, don't over act to a negative play

1707
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: like McKenzie muffing a punt and the same thing. Kumro

1708
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: had four targets, three of which we're incomplete. The one

1709
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: was for a touchdown. I mean, you're talking about both

1710
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum. What goes into it is you

1711
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: run the right route? Was he get separation to do

1712
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 1: all this stuff? Is he working hard in practice so much?

1713
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: The depth of analysis and evaluation is so deep. These

1714
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: plays good and the bad are the ones that are

1715
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: floating on the surface of a deep pool. So yeah,

1716
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: they give you might give an indication, but there's a

1717
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: lot going on behind the scenes that you don't get.

1718
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: So yes, Isaiah McKenzie had mostly an up and down

1719
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: day and a lot of people were focusing on the

1720
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: fact that he muffed a punt and said, who wow,

1721
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: there you go. And you know, Marquess Stevenson returned one

1722
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. There it is. The competition's over. Oh

1723
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: not so fast, Yeah, hustle fast. We have to take

1724
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: a break here because when we come back, it's time

1725
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: for Odyssey NFL insider and NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger,

1726
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: who has been and cutting up the tape from the

1727
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: preseason and boyd does he like what he sees from

1728
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Greg Russou and Boogie Basham and even aj ep and Essa.

1729
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about all that when we return

1730
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: for the third hour of One Bill's Live, presented by

1731
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve

1732
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

1733
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1734
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the straggier of normalcy.

1735
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: Every normal on this show, Tuesday edition of One Bills

1736
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: Live Hour number three coming at Chess, Steve Tasker, Chris

1737
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: Brown here with you and joining us now on the

1738
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: show is Odyssey NFL Insider Brian Baldinger. Insider Call is

1739
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,559
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01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,559
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1744
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: out every week, just search Baldi on the Odyssey app

1745
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: or wherever you find your podcasts. Baldi, thanks for joining us.

1746
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: So the early returns are pretty good for you on

1747
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: some of these bills. Young pass rushers. Huh, I think so,

1748
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think so. I think Greg Russeau. Uh.

1749
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, we knew that he had talent and he

1750
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: had you know, the necessary size length, but it's really

1751
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: the way that he's using it right now coming off

1752
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: that left end spot. Um, you know, he's got a

1753
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: really good stab, really understands attacking the inside shoulder of

1754
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: these tackles, and he's getting I mean, he's not just

1755
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: about sacks, it's about getting consistent pressure and he's getting

1756
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: around the quarterback. He plushed one yesterday or this past weekend.

1757
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: He had a sack two weeks to a row now

1758
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and boogie basham is you know my brothers went to

1759
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: wake Cars. They followed the Deacons. Um. This guy could

1760
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: have come out last year. He's he's polished, he could

1761
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: play inside, he could play outside, he plays with a

1762
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: good leverage. I mean, I think they drafted two good

1763
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: players that look. I mean it's hard for rookie, you know,

1764
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: defense allowing me to come in and set the world

1765
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: on fire. Not many ever do, including great Bruce Smith.

1766
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: It takes him a year to figure it out. But

1767
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: but I think in whatever role that you know, they

1768
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: decide to use these guys in that they'll they'll be

1769
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: active and I think they'll contribute right away this season.

1770
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: I think one of the things I've been telling people

1771
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: who ask me about Ruth so they certainly bash him,

1772
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: came out and he was more polished, and he's got

1773
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: that inside outside capability of moving down inside I've told

1774
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, though, I think the thing that

1775
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: sets rus so a part of the reason I think

1776
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: I have higher hopes for him this year, even than

1777
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: bash him, is his length is almost freakish, and he

1778
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: does play with really, really good leverage. I've seen it

1779
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Baldy, he gets in there, his reach,

1780
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 1: he'll reach around a tackle to get in the vision

1781
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. He doesn't even have to beat the guy.

1782
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you'll catch, yeah, exactly. He doesn't have to win.

1783
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 1: He just had to get in the vision. The quarterback

1784
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: will pull the ball down thinking he's right there, and

1785
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: he gets You know, he's so long. That's a real

1786
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: issue because a tight pocket allows him to get a

1787
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: hand on a quarterback where nobody else can touch him.

1788
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Size matters, guy, Yeah it does. And you know we

1789
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: saw it at Miami. You know we always saw one year.

1790
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was awfully raw, but you know what,

1791
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, what a piece of talent to work with.

1792
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: But he's really the way that he's rushing right now,

1793
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: and all those things you pointed out, Steve are absolutely true.

1794
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: But the way that he's rushing now, he looks like

1795
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: somebody's been working with him. Like, he looks a lot

1796
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: more polished right now, even in two preseason games at

1797
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: any point last you know, the last twenty nineteen, I

1798
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: guess the last year he played. I mean, you know,

1799
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: he's he looks like he's developing, and you know, he's

1800
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: he gets his hands on you. Now, it's hard to

1801
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: get to his body. He's got that length. It's hard

1802
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: to get into him. And he understands that he's he's

1803
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: winning these battles and uh, you know it's one of

1804
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the reasons why you know, the measurements and the measurables

1805
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: and all those things are important because it shows up

1806
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: on tape right now. Yeah, he looks like a condor.

1807
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was, I was looking around.

1808
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: It's rare that you see a guy six seven or

1809
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: six whatever he is, six sixty eight a guy like

1810
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: that play in that spot. I mean, he said to

1811
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 1: Ed two tall Jones back in the day. But you

1812
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: know who he reminds me of, and is Jason Taylor,

1813
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: the old Miami Dolphins down the Hall of Fame. What

1814
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: do you remember him? And what do you think about

1815
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: that comparison? That's not bad, it's better than you know,

1816
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: two tall. I've played with two tall He's not like that.

1817
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: He's a lot more. He can bend a lot better

1818
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: than ed did. I mean Edward was just six nine

1819
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: and you know, and he never missed a game. I mean,

1820
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: he was just endurable anybody ever play the game. But

1821
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: you know, but but I think I think Chaseon Taylor

1822
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: is a better a better comp because he's really lean

1823
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: like Jason was, but he really understands like he understands

1824
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: leverage and his hands are really are winning and um,

1825
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, I mean little Chason Taylor's in the Hall

1826
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: of Fame, but he was in fourth round pick out

1827
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: of you know whatever it was Aker or whatever he

1828
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: can from. Yeah, so I mean, you know, he he's

1829
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: just one of those mid round guys that just outworked

1830
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: everybody and he got the most out of his talent.

1831
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: This guy was, you know, he there's a reason why

1832
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: he was drafted as high as he was. I mean,

1833
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: the upside was really big. But he just hoped that

1834
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: you know, he uh that he doesn't flatline that it

1835
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: just keeps working and he finds, you know, different ways

1836
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: to beat an offensive tackle or a blocking the scheme

1837
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: right now, because you know, once they see what he

1838
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: likes to do, they'll they'll start trying to counter it

1839
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: and taking away and and so you know, he goes

1840
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: up against the Jets, he's gonna see probably Morgan Moses.

1841
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of those type of players like Ruth.

1842
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: So the years he'll have, you know, he'll have a

1843
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: game plan for him. So you know, you got to

1844
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: start to develop that counter move a little bit. Did

1845
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 1: you get a chance to look at Fins as well,

1846
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: because he's kind of flashed here in the preseason two.

1847
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Um with power. I mean he dropped that tackle on

1848
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: his backside against the Bears last week. Yeah he did.

1849
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: He did. No I think a j you know did.

1850
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it takes the guys about

1851
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: a year if they're gonna be good players. It takes

1852
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: him a year to figure it out. And I think

1853
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: aj was a good player at Iowa. Um, you know,

1854
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 1: he had good games. Uh you know the good Rose

1855
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: Bowl game that he had against Uh, you know, USC

1856
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: those things things showed up. But I think you're gonna

1857
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: see a much more consistent player this year. I think

1858
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: he'll have a bigger role for him. Um, you know,

1859
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: And so they look they wanted to upgrade the pass rush. Obviously,

1860
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: the final game against Kansas City and what Patrick Mahomes

1861
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,839
Speaker 1: did to him wasn't good enough. And so they trusted

1862
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: to the draft. And that's what you should do. And

1863
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: you know when you draft, well, you're not always trying to,

1864
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, fix the problem of a miss draft kick.

1865
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: And so they had the luxury of studying the first

1866
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: and second round picks on guys that could elevate the

1867
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: pass rush for this team, that can make life board

1868
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: difficult for Patrick Mahomes the way it was against the

1869
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,799
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks and the Super Bowl. Yeah, we watched

1870
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: the Bears Bills preseason game, and I know you watched

1871
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of it on film, and we were, yes, certainly,

1872
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: it's great. Bills played Gray forty one fifteen. What did

1873
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: you think about how badly the Chicago Bears played to us?

1874
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: They looked almost unprepared and non competitive. What's going on there? Well,

1875
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, I remember Steve one summer I was in Buffalo.

1876
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: I remember you might remember it well, Steve. But we

1877
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: went to Kansas City and we got beat thirty five nothing. Now,

1878
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: we were a Super Bowl contended team, so it's not

1879
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 1: like everybody was hanging her head. I mean, but we

1880
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: got beat thirty five nothing, and we didn't look very

1881
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 1: competitive that night. I'm sure Marr probably thought the same thing.

1882
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fall apart about it, but there they

1883
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: could not protect the quarterback, you know, and Andy Dalton's

1884
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: got just shellac and Justin Fields is running for his life.

1885
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: And I was up in Chicago this summer, Steve, if

1886
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Jason Peters starts for him, that'll be their fifth left

1887
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 1: tackle that they played, you know. I mean, they can't

1888
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: field five guys right now. That's where it all starts.

1889
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 1: And so that's the problem. I'm a faith I'm a

1890
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: big fan of Justin Fields and just the way, you know,

1891
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: the Bills drafted Josh Allen and they went with them,

1892
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: and it was ugly in some preseason games against Cincinnati,

1893
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: and some games I remember. It's not ugly anymore, and

1894
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: so I believe you got to play these guys. You

1895
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: gotta put them out there, let them take their lumps,

1896
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: let them go into the job. And I don't know

1897
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: like I think Chicago. I think I think they're gonna

1898
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: play Justin Fields this week with the number one, whatever

1899
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: that's worth. But you know, Andy Dalton to me is

1900
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: it's not the answer, and he could. They were one

1901
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: for fifteen Steamson on thirty fourth pounds in that game.

1902
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't sustain any offense and all all day. Yeah,

1903
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: it was a rough go for sure. I saw that

1904
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs checks in at number eleven on the NFL

1905
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: Top one hundred players of the twenty twenty one list.

1906
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: So we're still waiting to find out where Josh Allen

1907
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: ends up. I think I don't know when the top

1908
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: ten is being announced, but he hasn't made the list yet,

1909
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: and I gotta believe he's gonna be there somewhere. Um,

1910
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: but what about what do you think about Diggs ranking

1911
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: there at number eleven? Baldi, Well, it bothered me. I

1912
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: talked about it last nine the total access. I mean

1913
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: nothing against Davante Adams. Davante Adams, you know, tied a

1914
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: Packer record of the eighteen touchdown catches. He's clearly the

1915
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: go to guy in Green Bay. But if you're gonna

1916
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: put Davonte in the top ten, that Stefan Diggs has

1917
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: to be in the top ten. I mean he led

1918
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 1: the league in targets, receptions, and yards he had one

1919
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: of the great seasons we've seen from a wide receiver,

1920
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: and so, uh, it's it's just hard for me to

1921
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 1: see Devonte in there and not Digs in there, like

1922
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense to me, be honest with you.

1923
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: He was clearly the best receiver in the NFL last year.

1924
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best route runner. And Devonte

1925
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: is a great route runner either one or two in

1926
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: this league. But I mean to see him beat Jyalen

1927
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: Ramsey beat every corner they put out there against him

1928
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: last year. So it's just eleven's not a bad number.

1929
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna have another receiver in the top ten,

1930
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: then Stefan has to be there. Also. One of the

1931
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 1: things I saw that you did. You put out a list.

1932
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 1: You went back and looked at the two thousand and

1933
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: seventeen draft class, and of course it's led by Pat Mahomes.

1934
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Then you've got some pretty good guys on that list.

1935
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Deshaun Watson, Alvin Camarot, t J Watt,

1936
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: George Kittle, and Turnavious White makes makes an appearance at

1937
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: number six in that list. Give us an idea. I mean,

1938
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a tough list. To get on. And it's a

1939
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: pretty good list to get on with those names and

1940
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: Turnus White being a guy who's all pro corner one

1941
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 1: of the elite positions in the league. I mean, it's

1942
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: it says a lot about him, well it does. I mean,

1943
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,799
Speaker 1: he's just a complete pro. I did a film session

1944
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: with him. I learned a lot about the cornerback position

1945
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: from him. You know, he loves to play the game, Steve.

1946
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 1: He loves to compete. He loves taking on your number

1947
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: one receiver when he gets that opportunity. There's three great

1948
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: corners in that draft, Marlon Humphrey, Marshawn Lattimore, and Tredevious

1949
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,719
Speaker 1: and I didn't put all three on there. I put

1950
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: Lattimore and I put Tardavious on there. So everybody in

1951
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 1: Baltimore is upset. But you know, look, I just think

1952
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Turdevius has been out there more. He hasn't missed any games.

1953
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: He's been very consistent. The defense just continues to get better.

1954
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: He's a pillar of that defense and of that secondary.

1955
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: There's just a lot to like. The interceptions from two

1956
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen were elite. He's a top He's a

1957
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: top ten player from that draft for me, Bald, He's

1958
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: take a look at the rest of Buffalo's division here.

1959
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I know you've liked some of what you've seen from

1960
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: Jets quarter Zach Wilson. How my question to you, though,

1961
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: is as impressive as it has looked, how do you

1962
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: weigh the film knowing a lot of defenses in the preseason,

1963
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: are you know, playing a lot of soft coverage, a

1964
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: lot of zone stuff, keeping stuff in front of them?

1965
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not Zach Wilson's fault that they're playing

1966
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: him that way. He's taken what they give him. But

1967
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: how do you weigh it all out in what you're

1968
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: actually gonna get from Zach Wilson when you know the

1969
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: rubber meets the road and the scheming becomes more complex. Well, see,

1970
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: that's that's where I kind of disagree, Like, I don't

1971
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,879
Speaker 1: think it's been simple, and I don't think the defenses

1972
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: has been vanilla. I was in Green Bay last weekend.

1973
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: They blitzed the hell out of Zach Wilson, and they

1974
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: blitzed him in that game too, And he made the

1975
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: right reads, and he found his checkdowns, and he found

1976
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 1: receivers on the other side of the field. He played

1977
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: very well now. I think it helped that he scrimmage

1978
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 1: against Green Bay for two days. It was kind of

1979
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: familiar what they're doing. But up the honest with you,

1980
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: this preseason has been anything but vanilla. These teams are

1981
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: the teams are our pressure teams and one of blitz.

1982
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: They're doing it right now, six man pressures, man covered

1983
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: zero coboards. I mean, I've seen a little bit of

1984
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: everything and so but to your bigger question, like how

1985
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: do you capt you don't like I talked to Ron

1986
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Rivera on Friday and I did to Washington Cincinnati game,

1987
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,719
Speaker 1: and you know, Ron was just really blunt and honest

1988
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 1: with me, said, Baldy, I know we have good players

1989
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: like and I know that you know, we have a

1990
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: lot of holes that are filled on this team and

1991
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: we've got some depth, but I really don't know how

1992
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 1: good we are. And I think that's the truth of

1993
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. I mean, Buffalo, they're not bringing

1994
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: back the same team as last year. Everybody's picked him

1995
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: win the division and probably rightfully so. But I think

1996
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: there's some hesitation to Sean McDermott about how they're gonna

1997
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: play week one or week two and how ready they are.

1998
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 1: I expect Josh Allen to have another monster year, but

1999
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: those were ridiculous numbers that he put up last year.

2000
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're if you're saying, okay, well

2001
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: he's got to throw forty touchdownds this year, Well it's

2002
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: to throw forty touchdowns. I don't know if you're gonna

2003
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know if you have to throw

2004
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 1: forty to win, you know, twelve games this year or

2005
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: thirteen games. So I think the preseason is good to

2006
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: get your team ready, but I don't think it's an

2007
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: indicator of how you're gonna play. We saw Trevor Lawrence

2008
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville come out and struggle a little bit behind

2009
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line. Zach Wilson, same story. You've chronicled that

2010
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: we see justin fields. The same thing we talked about

2011
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,919
Speaker 1: in Chicago to me Baldy and we had a conversation

2012
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the show. Why is it if

2013
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft a quarterback in the first round or

2014
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: even high in the first round, that every other draft

2015
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 1: pick on your board is not an offensive lineman. It see,

2016
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's your number one priority is to get

2017
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: them as much help upfront as you can free agency

2018
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 1: in the draft, like you have to invest. The Jets

2019
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: are trying to do it. McKay, Beckton, Alijah Vera Tucker,

2020
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: two first round picks they traded for Morgan Moses, you know,

2021
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean they they picked up George Fan Like, they're

2022
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 1: trying their best to protect their quarterback. But in Chicago

2023
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: right now, Look, they drafted Tevin Jenkins. He's not going

2024
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 1: to play this year. He's got it. He's got a

2025
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: bad back. Um, you know, I don't want to speak

2026
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,879
Speaker 1: to his injury, and uh, could that have been forecasts?

2027
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's been an issue in Chicago

2028
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: for a long time, and so I'm with you, You've

2029
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: got to invest in your line. They drafted Trey Lawrence,

2030
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: Trey Lance and San Francisco they went out and got

2031
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: Alex Mack. They got Trent Williams locked up long term.

2032
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 1: I mean, those are two bona fide pro Pro Bowl

2033
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: players that they're trying to build with. So some teams

2034
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 1: get at Steven. Some teams just you know, refused to

2035
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: understand it. Do we think Baldy that to takes some

2036
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: strides this year? There the early returns in camp have

2037
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: been positive. He seems as though he's been He's established

2038
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:57,440
Speaker 1: a good rapport with some of his new receiving targets.

2039
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: So again going it's kind of going back to my

2040
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,480
Speaker 1: last question to you about how you evaluate the preseason.

2041
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: But all the returns have been good in camp. So

2042
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: should we expect more from two years year? You should?

2043
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 1: He's played very well. I mean, if you take one

2044
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: throw out from the first preseason game where I don't

2045
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why he hesitated, but he did and

2046
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 1: the ball was intercepting the end zone. If you take

2047
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that throw out, he's had a great preseason and his

2048
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: footwork is elite. He sees the field very very well.

2049
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: He's got tremendous pocket presents. He had a whole off

2050
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: season to work. It's his team. They have not played

2051
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 1: with Devonte Parker or Kenny Stills, so there's still some

2052
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: fortification to come, but you know they're working. General Waterlin,

2053
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: I think the sick he's gonna be a great player,

2054
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 1: you know. I think he's gonna have a good season.

2055
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if if he doesn't play well all year.

2056
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Like his mechanics are are excellent, they just are the

2057
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: only the only thing he's just not six foot four

2058
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: or six foot five, you know, I mean that's the

2059
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 1: only knock to me on him. And really his size

2060
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:09,919
Speaker 1: it's an advantage because his footwork is like it's amazing

2061
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: to watch. How what do you think the identity of

2062
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 1: that team is going to be? They had the number

2063
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 1: one scoring defense in the league. Are actually have finished

2064
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: up number six in the league last year. They were

2065
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: hard to score on. They got their cornerbacks back, they

2066
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: got you know, those guys are there. What's this team

2067
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: gonna look like if it if it is a team

2068
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna be reckoned with, well, I think it's gonna

2069
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: start with defense. See I think their top ten defense,

2070
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: you know Byron Jones, and what they could do on

2071
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: the corners. Not many teams have that luxury where they

2072
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 1: got two guys that can really lock you up. It

2073
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: really frees them up to run all their games and

2074
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: stunts and all their junk that they throw at you

2075
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, which is considerable. But

2076
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: they're they're really good outside. I think defensively they'll be very,

2077
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: very good. It's gonna be tough to get the ball

2078
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: over the head against that team. But I think defensively

2079
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be well led. And then offensively, we just

2080
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: gotta see. They got three young linemen. They're out there,

2081
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: they look like they're improving. H They've drafted them, hide

2082
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: them to be starters, and then it's just a question of,

2083
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 1: you know, how how consistent can the offense be. Bald

2084
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: is always we thank you for the time. We're all

2085
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 1: waiting for this regular season to get right on here.

2086
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 1: We got one last preseason game. It feels like it's longer.

2087
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's because we had none last year. Maybe,

2088
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna see some action this just

2089
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: last game. Like, I don't think teams are just gonna

2090
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: sit all their guys. I think you'll see some action.

2091
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: There'll be something to evaluate, uh, you know, as they

2092
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: get ready for the regular season. All right, we look

2093
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: forward to morrow your breakdown. Thanks much for the time,

2094
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 1: see you guys. All right, that was honest the NFL

2095
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,040
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Speaker 1: we mentioned with Jason Locke and for on Baldy's Breakdowns,

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Speaker 1: with new episodes out every week. Just search Baldi on

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Speaker 1: the Odyssey app or wherever you find your podcasts. Some

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01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: troubling news down in Jacksonville, a team that is on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's schedule this year. Jonathan Jones is reporting Jaguars rookie

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Speaker 1: Travis Etn who left yesterday's game against the Saints. Was

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Speaker 1: the Saints they were playing. Yeah, yes, left with a

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Speaker 1: mid foot sprain, but it was described as a Liz

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Speaker 1: Frank injury and he has now likely done for the season.

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Speaker 1: According to sources, big loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars because

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Speaker 1: if there's one thing that they did not have in

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Speaker 1: their backfield, it was breakaway speed and that is going

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Speaker 1: to be a loss for them. Travis et N, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Steve who did not miss a game in

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Speaker 1: college and had a lengthy career. I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: four year career in college. He didn't even get to

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Speaker 1: a regular season of his rookie year. He is done

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Speaker 1: for the year. Wow, Wow, crusher for a kid for

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh terrible. That is so they and just

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Speaker 1: you know, so everybody knows. Um, you know, ETN was

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Speaker 1: gonna probably be a focal point of their passing game

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Speaker 1: and be a safety valve for Travis la or Travis

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01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence out of the backfield. Um, that is gone.

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Speaker 1: Now he does have receiving targets to work with. You know.

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Speaker 1: DJ Chark is an accomplished receiver down there. It just

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Speaker 1: he plays in Jacksonville. Nobody knows about him. Um, but man,

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Speaker 1: you lose ETN. That is speed out of the backfield

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Speaker 1: that I think is going to be sorely missed. They

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Speaker 1: had the undrafted back last year who ran for over

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards for them and what wound up being

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Speaker 1: a last season. And if my kid's name was Lauren

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Speaker 1: James Robinson, I wanted to say Lawrence Robinson. I knew

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Speaker 1: that wasn't right, so I wanted to look it up

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Speaker 1: in my page. Finally populated James Robinson. They have a

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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide as well, the veteran backup who we know

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer knows well from having him in Ohio State

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Speaker 1: back in the day. But ETN was their speed threat

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Speaker 1: in the backfield and he is now looking as though

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Speaker 1: he is not going to be a part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: But as I mentioned, there are weapons DJ Shark, the

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Speaker 1: veteran Marvin Jones who they signed in free agency from Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and Laviska Chanou, their former second round pick from last year.

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Speaker 1: They have talent there. The question is whether Travis Trevor

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01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence is gonna have enough time to get rid of

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Speaker 1: the football. He was under pressure on over forty seven

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: percent of his dropbacks last night, and he's not getting

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Speaker 1: the ball out fast enough because that pressure is on

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: him in the snap of a finger. So that's going

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01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: to be an adjustment for him. And without Etn as

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Speaker 1: a safety valve to dump the ball off to on checkdowns, yeah,

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Speaker 1: without even well you need they got to get some

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: sort of running game something. Yeah. And you know, once

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01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: again you look at the offensive line, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: gotta help and they're not They're not doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're decent, you know. Tackle at the tackles.

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, he's an okay left tackle. Juwan Taylor, former

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01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: second round pick in twenty nineteen, plays right tackle. But

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01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: and Norwell is a good guard that they signed in

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Speaker 1: free agency away from Carolina, but Brandon Linder at center

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Speaker 1: and a J Cannon guard, It's like, yeah, you're a

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Speaker 1: little soft there, I think, And you know, pressure comes

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Speaker 1: up the middle. Lawrence can't step up in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we saw some of the problems last night.

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Speaker 1: So right, it's gonna it's gonna be a tough road

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Speaker 1: to hoe for the Jags on offense anyway, that's that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. That's a tough loss for them. The guy

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Speaker 1: that everybody wanted the Bills to get. Remember that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you short months ago, there were a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the Travis Etn train j Harris because they didn't

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Speaker 1: think Naji Harris would be there. Yeah, and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: because he went to the Steelers twenty four and they

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01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: so they thought Travis atn would be the guy for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and he indeed went what four picks later,

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Speaker 1: three picks later? Yeah, So yeah, I like I like

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Speaker 1: the way that I'm just always hang tough with the

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Speaker 1: guys we got. Yeah, we liking how the pass rush's looking.

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Speaker 1: I think so, yes, I think so. I am. Actually

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I'm not saying it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers against Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but it might be once in a while. Yeah. Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport from NFL Network has followed up on this report

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Speaker 1: about et N and he says that he suffered a

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Speaker 1: significant tear in his foot in the midfoot area. It

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Speaker 1: is considered a serious Liz Frank injury that is going

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Speaker 1: to knock him out for several months and potentially the

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Speaker 1: entire season. The timeline is twelve weeks minimum, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen players here over the years that have had Liz

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Speaker 1: Frank injuries. It usually costs him the season. I know it.

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Speaker 1: Did you had one? Yeah, it's ten weeks. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was h hockey sticks man. Yeah. Aaron Schobel had that injury,

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Speaker 1: missed the rest of this I think he suffered in

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Speaker 1: like week four, a week five. He missed the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year. Wasn't even a question done. It's a

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Speaker 1: crusher and then the rehab is lengthy in terms of

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Speaker 1: coming back from that too. Right. Yeah, it's the name

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Speaker 1: of that injury. It comes from a horse riding injury

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Speaker 1: that was common among horse riders because you know, jockeys

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Speaker 1: are you know, a questry because if if they fell

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Speaker 1: off their horse. Very often the injury would be caused

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Speaker 1: by their foot getting caught in the stirrup on the

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Speaker 1: way down. Yeah, so that's where the origin of the

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Speaker 1: injury comes from. Long before they had organized professional sports.

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Speaker 1: What happened the arch Your foot gets exaggerated, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: that's basically where the injury comes from. And yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: for me. It was a dull ache for like two months. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, God, so you may not have had

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Speaker 1: a significant tear. Apparently not. I came came back in

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Speaker 1: ten weeks, eight or ten. This is minimum twelve they're

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Speaker 1: saying for his Yeah, that's a serious tear. It stick

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Speaker 1: because and you can think there's nothing worse than I

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Speaker 1: said this before too, which guys, you know every injury

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Speaker 1: is bad, but foot injuries for athletes, particularly in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you can't run, you can't play, forget it. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's a tough one man. I mean you can't even

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Speaker 1: condition well, yeah, because it's your foot. What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You can't do it? You can't you can't bride a bike.

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01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: You may as well just watch TV for two months,

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Speaker 1: that's all you can do. It stinks, man, you don't

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Speaker 1: have your Pegs. You're sunk. That's you feel bad for it.

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01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: And that's another young It's just a crusher for his

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Speaker 1: to start his career like that. Terrible, terrible. I remember, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember here. Two thousand and five, the

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Speaker 1: Bill's first two draft choices were Roscoe Parish and Kevin Everett.

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Speaker 1: That year, first play of OTAs or first play first

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Speaker 1: day of OTA's evert tears his ACL done for the year,

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Speaker 1: athletic tight end, and then in training camp the same summer,

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Speaker 1: Roscoe breaks his wrist and he misses an early part

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Speaker 1: of the year. It was just you lose those young

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Speaker 1: guys that you think are going to spark your offense

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Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. Oh, it's a crusher, crusher, all right.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll finish up your thoughts on the tweet sheet in

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01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 1: terms of your back of the roster players that have

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01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 1: made a strong case to make the fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: and we might have a little time for some NFL

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Speaker 1: true false. We'll get to those things when we return

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalada. If it's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, and welcome back to the final half

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Speaker 1: hour of a one Bill's Live Tuesday edition, and we

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Speaker 1: weren't sure we'd have this for you in time, but

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Speaker 1: we will have it for you in time. As players

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Speaker 1: after practice and met the media, and one of them

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Speaker 1: was the Bill's top draft choice, Greg Rousseau. So here

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Speaker 1: is Greg addressing the media. Where do you feel like

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02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: in terms of just where you're at right now? You know,

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02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing I'm doing okay, but it's

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Speaker 1: a long way to go. You know, like there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things I can work on, a lot of

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02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: things I can keep getting better at. And the way

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Speaker 1: I look at it is I didn't really look at

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Speaker 1: it as like I want to be here, boy here.

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Speaker 1: I just look at it as like I want to

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Speaker 1: get better every time I stepped foot in the building,

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Speaker 1: step foot on the practice field. Just want to go

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Speaker 1: keep on going forward and stap in, stacking good days

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Speaker 1: over and over again and see where that gets me.

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Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. You'd have it ton

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Speaker 1: of snaps against the Bears, but you really seem to

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02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: maximize the ones that you did have. What was your

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02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 1: approach or did you have an idea of how much

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Speaker 1: you were gonna play, and if you did, what was

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Speaker 1: your approach? Now, I didn't have an idea of how

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Speaker 1: much I was gonna play. I come into every game

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Speaker 1: no matter what, with the mindset of me playing the

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Speaker 1: full game. And my approach is just like just going

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Speaker 1: hard every single snap, you know, coming off the ball,

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Speaker 1: activating my hands, using my hands, my hips, the whole

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Speaker 1: nine yards and just going hard at all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's really my approach. You know. Obviously Bookie was just

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Speaker 1: asked about it. We have to ask you too. You know,

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Speaker 1: what was what was it like to go through a

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Speaker 1: practice yet, you know, Bruce specth Over on the sideline

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Speaker 1: watching you, maybe giving you some tips. What was that like?

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Speaker 1: It's awesome, you know, it's a blessing because you know,

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02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: in life, knowledge is key. You can learn from everybody,

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02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: whether it's players, coaches, former players. You know, you could

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02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,400
Speaker 1: take up from everybody's game and put it in the earth.

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Speaker 1: So it's great to have him here. It's awesome. I still,

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Speaker 1: in a particular moment, ran a drill a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: He waved you over and had a brief conversation. What

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Speaker 1: was that about? And to have that one on one

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Speaker 1: touch with the guy the stature of Bruce. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how did the message come across? Awesome? It's amazing, you know,

2283
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 1: surreal dude who had two hundred sacks being able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, give you some advice. It's awesome. Obviously in

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Speaker 1: the media a lot older than you're. You're you're a

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Speaker 1: young guy. You didn't you don't have any memories of

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Speaker 1: Bruce playing, But what have you kind of learned about

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Speaker 1: his playing career and what he meant to this franchise

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Speaker 1: since you got draft here? Oh yeah, he definitely you know,

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Speaker 1: he means a lot to the franchise for sure. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a legend here in Buffalo and across the whole

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Speaker 1: entire league. So I watched like a football life video

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Speaker 1: on on Bruce Smith one, so I know a little

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Speaker 1: bit about him. Big maybe not big as you, but

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Speaker 1: does that help you? I know Jerry mentioned he passes

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Speaker 1: along as much as he can. But you guys are

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Speaker 1: different body types. There's there's some limits they are. What

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Speaker 1: about learning from someone at that stature literally physically and

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Speaker 1: career wise. Yeah, we definitely connect. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: he's a really big dude, and the way he uses

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Speaker 1: length was great. So I'm definitely gonna try to do

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Speaker 1: some of the things that he did during his career.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, I was just gonna say, just using his hands,

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02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 1: being able to lock dudes out, you know, diagnosed run

2305
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: pass keys, stuff like that. Did he did he get

2306
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 1: a chance to watch you at all in the Bears game? Uh?

2307
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think he did. Yeah. Uh.

2308
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: He didn't tell me about it, but he was telling

2309
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 1: me more like you guys said, just about practice, you know,

2310
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: being able to use my hands. He was telling me, like,

2311
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 1: for example, the cut blocks are coming, so being able

2312
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 1: to just have your hands, follow your eyes quick and

2313
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: be able to get your hands down and protect yourself

2314
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that, or almost in the regular season, you know,

2315
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 1: camps pretty much almost in the rear view mirror here,

2316
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: How how far have you come just in a comfort

2317
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: level day to day knowing what you're supposed to do,

2318
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, from when we first talked to you all

2319
02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 1: the way back when in the spring. Oh oh yeah,

2320
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: A long way for sure, you know, just learning to

2321
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 1: playbook in and out, just every team, every like different

2322
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 1: teams have different standards. So just knowing how the defense

2323
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: is ran, how the coaches want things done, whether it's

2324
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 1: in the team period, individual period. Just all that, all right,

2325
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 1: So that's great. Brussel addressing in the media Thisay afternoon,

2326
02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 1: talking about some of the interaction he had with Bruce

2327
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 1: Smith practice. I guess Bruce did speak to the media

2328
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: after practice. He compared Greg Russou to Simeon Rice. There

2329
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: you go. I like your comparison better. I think the

2330
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 1: body type and everything is is more in mine with

2331
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. Simeon Rice was a big dude. He was

2332
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: like two eighty two ninety. Brusso's heavier than Jason Taylor was.

2333
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: Taylor was like two fifty two fifty five twenties, like

2334
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: two sixty five. Yeah, he just looks thicker than me.

2335
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Nevertheless, yeah, Bruce would know better

2336
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 1: than me. Oh just say that. So yeah, I mean

2337
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Simean Rice was no slouch either. This just in he

2338
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: was a top I think he was a top five pick, wasn't. Yeah.

2339
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 1: Simeon Rice heads the third pick in the draft. He

2340
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 1: was eighty six. Yea, Simeon Rice was toolsy. All right.

2341
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: I liked the Simeon Rice comparison. All right, I'll get along.

2342
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: I can go along with Bruce on that two sixty eight.

2343
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 1: I thought he was heavier than that. Yeah, okay, was

2344
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 1: he with Denver? Right? Well, he got drafted by Tampa? Okay, yeah,

2345
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 1: oh no, Arizona. I'm sorry. He played with Tampa after

2346
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 1: spending five years in Arizona, got through his rookie contract,

2347
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: got through his rookie contract, then moved on to Tampa,

2348
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 1: where he won a Super Bowl, and then Denver and

2349
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Indie for a year, and then finished in the XFL

2350
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 1: of all places. But when all was said and done,

2351
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 1: he had one hundred and twenty two sacks, twenty five

2352
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: fumble forced fumbles, and five picks, and three Pro Bowls

2353
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl ring. I think if Greg Russo

2354
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:34,320
Speaker 1: can deliver anything close to that, most people were gonna

2355
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 1: be pretty damn happy. Pretty happy. Yeah, that could work.

2356
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 1: We also have his fellow draft class mate who addressed

2357
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: the media after practice one boogie bash him. So let's

2358
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 1: hear from him now. For me, I would say just

2359
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 1: things a little Well, he definitely played a lot of

2360
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: harder the older guys for the game cameras of needs

2361
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: you play a harder and needs you to showcase of

2362
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: what you can do, so that that whole warm I

2363
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 1: was taking that into account, and once I hit to

2364
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: feel it was more of everything. We just started clicking,

2365
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 1: started coming smoother to me. And I get that to

2366
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 1: the credit older guys for pushing me to be better

2367
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 1: out to Oh yeah, it was. It was great, you know,

2368
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 1: especially in the meeting this morning, you know, just giving us,

2369
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, small little tips, little nuggets here and there.

2370
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: You know that that's small stuff go a long way.

2371
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like even though he wasn't really out there,

2372
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 1: but he was talking to us in the beginning, you

2373
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 1: know that just said little things right there, I can

2374
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: make a big difference. Where are you Bruce the player

2375
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: and his standing here with this organization. Bruce was a

2376
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: great person, you know, a great player. You know, before

2377
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 1: I got drafted, I was watching some highlights and him

2378
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 1: the day night of the draft. You know, just this

2379
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: is stuff, you know, something to watch for the draft

2380
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: and starting you know they're coming here, you know, getting

2381
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 1: drafted by the Bills, you know, talking to him over

2382
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 1: zoom and then you know today ultimately meeting him. It

2383
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: was like a big name for me getting out there

2384
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: in the game, you know, having little pieces of success,

2385
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, play by play, like everybody talks about like

2386
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: building play by play break by breck you know what

2387
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of things did you take away from that? Just

2388
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 1: from Okay, that worked im, I'm gonna try to do

2389
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: more of that, I would saying. For me, you know,

2390
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,280
Speaker 1: it's just a those little things I would say when

2391
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,120
Speaker 1: you play hard, everything just comes together. You know, you

2392
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 1: may you may't mess up this play, but if you're

2393
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 1: going hard, you can make up for it. So I

2394
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 1: feel like for me, you know, I mess up one player,

2395
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 1: but me going hard made up for it. And then

2396
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have a short term memory that

2397
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 1: you mess up. You know, don't let that carry to

2398
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: the next player, and ultimately you know you can have

2399
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: a bad game. So for me, it was just a

2400
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: having an open mind, you know, just clearing it out,

2401
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: get rid of for for the next play. Comfortable side um,

2402
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 1: if the defense needs you, needs you to do that

2403
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 1: in a game or in a practice, I feel feel

2404
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 1: very comfortable with it. You know, the whole d line.

2405
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 1: The coach style does a great job of all defensive

2406
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: guys knowing the whole line of costs. You know, whether

2407
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 1: you're playing three tech, y'all know the outside guys, you know,

2408
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: just in case something like that happened. So I feel

2409
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 1: like I'm pretty good at clarify you. You said that

2410
02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: you spoke with Bruce over zoom before meeting him today. Yeah,

2411
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:55,280
Speaker 1: after you got drafted. Yeah, I dropped the posession. It

2412
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:57,120
Speaker 1: was a kind of like group I was meeting him

2413
02:07:57,120 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: a great okay, Yeah, yeah, what what was that conversation like?

2414
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,520
Speaker 1: And then how do you compare it to actually, you know,

2415
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 1: meeting him in person today and seeing him on the

2416
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 1: field good? I would say, you know, that conversation is

2417
02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 1: more like welcome to the Bills, you know, definitely, you know,

2418
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 1: it's a great place to be the ultimate you know,

2419
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 1: it's like you're a defensive guy. He's he's a defensive guy.

2420
02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, he just loved defense. So it's just like

2421
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 1: having those little defensive conversations. You know, they're seeing them

2422
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 1: today going out there, you know, just talking with him.

2423
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: You know they kind of like all this came together

2424
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 1: years old that he might be able to play a

2425
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 1: few snaps. Yeah he look he was, he was working

2426
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 1: out in there. What was it means? You know, he

2427
02:08:28,720 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 1: was mentioned a little Bill was like, man, he still

2428
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 1: got it. Differ in being taught by a coach or

2429
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: a veteran player on this team and getting advice from

2430
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 1: a Hall of famer, the stature Bruce Smith I felt

2431
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: for me. You know, it's just learning from everybody, you know,

2432
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: having a Hall of famer, you know, he's pretty much

2433
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: saying the same thing as the coaches are saying, but

2434
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: you know hearing it from him, and you know him

2435
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 1: and the coach as coming together, you know, giving physical

2436
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 1: tools of what they wanted to do. You know, it's

2437
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:57,320
Speaker 1: just great just hearing, you know, from more than just

2438
02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: one person. You know, the success he had and his

2439
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 1: sess our coach has, you know, it's great. So you

2440
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 1: know you're getting a lot from both of them. All right.

2441
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 1: That's Boogie Basham addressing the media. A lot of the

2442
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 1: questions surrounding Bruce being a practice today with these defensive players, understandably,

2443
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 1: So how about Bruce getting a little bench work in

2444
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:23,080
Speaker 1: all the players are in meetings? It cared to comment,

2445
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, as close, that's as close as I

2446
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 1: want to get. But he yeah, Bruce's I think Bruce's

2447
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 1: skill set and think about it too. He's talking about

2448
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 1: defensive end. He played defensive end into three four instead

2449
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: of a four to three and it's a much different animal,

2450
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 1: but the techniques and pass rushing we get into that

2451
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 1: situation are the same. And you could see he was

2452
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 1: out there with There's a few clips online where he's,

2453
02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, showing up talking about body position and twisting,

2454
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 1: and I mean it felt like to me Bruce could

2455
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 1: stand a foot away from a wall, facing away from

2456
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: the wall and turn his entire torso around put both

2457
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 1: hands flat on the wall, you know. I mean, that's

2458
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:06,120
Speaker 1: how flexing, how bendy he was. And I don't know

2459
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 1: if any of those guys can do that, neither do I,

2460
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 1: but Russol looks pretty bendy, I'll say that. Yeah, and

2461
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: he's a loose athlete, I think. Yeah, hearing it from

2462
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: a guy, a player who did it and did it

2463
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 1: at a high level helps. Yeah. And there are certainly

2464
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 1: things down at the bottom of the foundational skill sets

2465
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 1: that you have that you can build on the I

2466
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 1: know Bruce could have a lot, and I know that

2467
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about the culture that exists in

2468
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 1: that locker room. But bash him in the eyes of

2469
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 1: the veteran players on this roster needed a kick in

2470
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 1: the pants. They gave him a kick in the pants

2471
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:45,200
Speaker 1: before that game the game's over Bash Him's one of

2472
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 1: the leading tacklers with five tackles along with Andre Smith,

2473
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 1: has a sack, two tackles for loss, and two quarterback hits.

2474
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 1: The question is is it good or bad that he

2475
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 1: needed a kick in the p have to light a

2476
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: fire under him. Yeah, Well, I just think whether you

2477
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 1: do or you don't, it's valuable that you have a

2478
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 1: veteran presence on this roster that's not afraid to do

2479
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 1: it to get the most out of that kid. Either way,

2480
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 1: if you get it out of him, who cares Howard exactly. Yeah,

2481
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: And that's my point. Break time for us here. When

2482
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 1: Steve and I come back, we will close it up

2483
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: with what have we learned? Next? On One Bill's Live

2484
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 1: presented by Cloud of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

2485
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, what do

2486
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: you think we learned from today's show? Steve? I think

2487
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 1: we learned that there are a number of candidates on

2488
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,720
Speaker 1: the back half of the roster that have made a

2489
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 1: case to make the fifty three man squad. I think

2490
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 1: we've convinced ourselves as well as going to be some

2491
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 1: surprise or at least some new faces that maybe those

2492
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 1: guys that end up contributing in a more significant way

2493
02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 1: than what we anticipate right now. Usually in the preseason

2494
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 1: and you get all these young guests, Hey, it's gonna

2495
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 1: be great, and then the season kicks off, you never

2496
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 1: see them again because they're covering kicks or you know,

2497
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,280
Speaker 1: or they're deactive for games, and you think, wow, all

2498
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: that work and they didn't even get to be active

2499
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,280
Speaker 1: for games because you got guys like Steph Diggs, Cole Beasley.

2500
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people once again, maybe we're

2501
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 1: falling into the same trap high hopes for these guys.

2502
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 1: I like the Kumeros and Marquez Stevenson's of the world

2503
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 1: that Justin Zimmers of the world, even Reggie gilliam Reggie

2504
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 1: Gilliams of the world, that they think, you know what,

2505
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 1: those guys might help us win games. We might see them,

2506
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:32,040
Speaker 1: they might turn into really really good players. That may

2507
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: happen for some of these guys, but I think for

2508
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 1: the most part, these guys are just sweating out final cuts.

2509
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tight, and I think it's really wonder

2510
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 1: The big the big intrigue for me is to what

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Speaker 1: lengths does this Bill's coaching staff in personnel department go

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Speaker 1: if they feel it's necessary to go fat at one

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Speaker 1: position because the talent is just too good to part with.

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Speaker 1: Which will it be? Yeah, could be receiver, could be

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Speaker 1: defensive end, right, could be corner where you have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of young, unproven players on the back half of

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Speaker 1: the position, but you need numbers. It's just yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love this stuff, man, I could. I could dice it

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Speaker 1: up and slice it a thousand different ways and talk

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Speaker 1: about it. I gotta talk about it for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week. I don't know where we are, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about it for the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: This next game on Saturday, Bears hosting the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: Bill's hosting the Green Bay Who cares? Who do you

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Speaker 1: work for it? Right? Bill's hosting the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get a chance to see some

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Speaker 1: guys we haven't seen yet, some some starters. I think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be hand at least a handful of those

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Speaker 1: guys we're gonna be a chance to watch. There'll be

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Speaker 1: more to talk about that, along with hopefully some updates

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Speaker 1: on players like Beasley, Davis, Starr, Klein, Milano who were

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Speaker 1: not at practice today, and we hope to get Bruce

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the show. We'll talk to you then, One

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Speaker 1: Bill's our