1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Cal's wee Can Review with Ryan cal Callahan. Now Here's cal. 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: National Park tourists occasionally make the news for kicking bison, 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: taking selfies with moose, and generally being not smart around 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: big wild animals. To all those tourons, which is the 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: technical term for a tourist who chooses to behave like 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: a moron, one New Zealand man had a simple message, 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: hold my beer. A video posted in February but which 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: only recently gained international attention, shows a fairly rotund gentleman 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: jumping off a boat and body slamming a pair of 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: orcas in the ocean. Orcas, also called killer whales, are 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: apex predators most famous for killing great white sharks, smashing 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: asure yachts, and eating shark livers. And this guy thought 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: it would be a good idea to practice his belly 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: flop on an adult male and it's calf. Incredibly, he 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: didn't end up like Jonah from the Bible. In fact, 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: the video shows him staying in the water and trying 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: to touch the animals again. An official with the New 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Zealand Department of Conservation called the antics, irresponsible and stupid, 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: and said they demonstrate a quote shocking disregard for the 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: welfare of the orca. I'm no whale expert, but I'm 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: honestly not too concerned about the whales welfare in this situation. 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: The fella doesn't exactly look like Michael Phelps, if you 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Fortunately, all's well, that ends well. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: The whales weren't injured. Our key We friend wasn't injured either, 26 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: but did get dinged with a six hundred dollars fine 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: for his stone cold Steve Austin impersonation. If you're going 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: to try a splash, that's a little nod to UWWE 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: fans from the top ropes. Be sure your competitor isn't 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: a ten thousand pound predator with fifty six sharp teeth 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and a kid to protect. Maybe that's something you could 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: embroider on a pillow or something. This week we've got 33 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: the quote wild unquote horse deesk, legislation, crime, and so 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: much more. But first I'm going to tell you about 35 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: my week. In My week was solid. I checked out 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: a ton of New Turkey country, did not get lucky 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: and get into many birds at all. Heard exactly zero 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: gobbles over the weekend portion of my trip, but I 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: had a bunch of fun walking in the very very 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: early morning and cooking good food in the camper. I 41 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: did get one bird, a jake that came in silent 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: with a couple of his jake buddies. They spotted me 43 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: before I could get the gun up, and being as 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: we were on a steep mountain side, they flew instead 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: of running off. In response, I picked up the four ten, 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: swung through, squeezed, and down went Old Jacob. I was 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: super impressed with this, not because I shot a bird 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: out of the sky ol snort and I do that 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: all along, and not because it was a shot with 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: four to ten. Modern loads like the Federal TSS, combined 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: with the turkey choke make these subgauges incredibly lethal, especially 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: at close range, which this was. I was impressed because 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: my serious turkey hunting buddy, Jim Old Jim warned me 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: that I would lose the ability to win shoot a 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: turkey if I needed to because of the pistol grip 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: stock on the model of four ten, which is the 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: rossy toughye Turkey four ten. So that was fun. I 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: did nothing different including telling myself to keep my face 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: down on the gun. The post mortem, the full pluck job, 60 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: revealed that only one pellet made it below the neckline. 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: A single number nine TSS hit Jacob in the wing, 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: breaking it, and that little pellet hung up in the 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: skin on the other side. All of the rest of 64 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: the shot was in the beak through the neck region. 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: And yes, Snort made a great retrieve. And now she 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: thinks that we've been turkey hunting the wrong way these 67 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: past couple of seasons, which is probably going to be 68 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: a problem. Now I've taken some crap from some of 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: you turkey purists over this story, which is not unique 70 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: in my mind. It's just the way a turkey hunt 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: goes sometimes. It was not my intent to bust a 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: bird on the wing, as the old outfitter would have said. 73 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I like and prefer to call them in and watch 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: them dance around a decoy or just plane be suckered. 75 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: But at the end of the season, I know I 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: enjoy having a pantry full of turkey stock and white 77 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: meat in the freezer more than I like watching a 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: turkey strut. Now I know there is a difference between 79 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: a turkey and a quail, but they both die the 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: exact same way pellets on target. A three inch four 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: to ten number nine turkey load has at least two 82 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pellets. Those pellets leave the barrel at 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: eleven hundred feet per second. Combine that load with a 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: tight turkey choke, and it honestly makes my pheasant, quailed, duck, goose, hungarian, partridge, chuck, 85 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: or grouse setups look unethical in comparison. Now, please write 86 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in to askcl at the meteater dot com to let 87 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: me know what you think. Hopefully you have some math 88 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: that you can combine with opinion to keep the learning 89 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: going here on the weekend review. So get off your athletes. 90 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Juice mad mad mad math math. Moving on to the 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: mustang desk. The Bureau of Land Management has been escalating 92 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: its efforts to remove wild horses and burrows from Western 93 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: public lands, but not everyone is happy about the way 94 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: they're doing it. The issue made the news last week 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: after horse advocates criticized the BLM for a proposal that 96 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: would continue helicopter roundups in Colorado for the next ten years. 97 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: The ten year management plan would apply to the Little 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: Book Cliffs Range Land which is home to about two 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: hundred mustangs according to The Colorado Sun. The proposal says 100 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: this landscape can only support between ninety and one hundred 101 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: and fifteen horses, and so the agency wants to use 102 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: the low flying helicopters to round up part of the herd. 103 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Some of those captured horses would be given birth control, 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: including fertility vaccines and equine IUDs, and released back onto 105 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: the landscape. Others would be held by the BLM in 106 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: long term facilities, while still others would be placed for adoption. 107 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Advocates for wild horses say these second two options, paired 108 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: with the helicopter roundups, are cruel, and they're calling for 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the agency to focus exclusively on fertility control as a 110 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: way to manage the country's mustang population. Unless something drastic changes, 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: they're probably not going to get what they want. The 112 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: BLM captured about fifty thousand horses between twenty twenty and 113 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, about twice as many as in the 114 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: prior four years. While this move has generated a fair 115 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: amount of controversy, the agency has been able to up 116 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: the ante without angering too many Americans, in part due 117 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: to the adoption program. Since the BLM began offering one 118 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars adoption incentive back in twenty nineteen. Wild horse 119 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: adoptions have doubled. Over fifteen thousand horses have been adapted 120 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: through this program, which, according to the Property and Environment 121 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Research Center, will save taxpayers about four hundred million over 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the lifetime of the animals. It costs the BLM about 123 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: one hundred million a year to hold and care for 124 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: horses in off range pastures, and advocates for the adoption 125 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: program characterize it as a win win. People who want 126 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: horses can have them at a reduced cost, and the 127 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: BLM doesn't have to pay to feed and house those 128 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: particular individuals. Some are even calling on the agency to 129 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: build more short term housing facilities in eastern States so 130 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: that folks on the East Coast can also take advantage 131 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: of the incentive program. The wild horse and burrow issue 132 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: is a thorny one. The animals aren't native to North 133 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: America and they can significantly harm the environment if they're 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: left to their own devices. At the same time, they 135 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: enjoy federal protections under the Wild and Free Roaming Horses 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: and Burrows Act of nineteen seventy one, and they're no 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: doubt a huge part of our national identity, both for 138 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: European immigrants and many Native Americans. What to do with 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: these animals is a circle that won't be squared anytime soon. 140 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: But as always, we'll let you know as things develop. 141 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: And yes, you're correct. If you prevent horses from breeding, 142 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: they still eat. And one of the major issues with 143 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: this growing horse population problem is the fact that they 144 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: destroy range land that are cattle producers lease to graze cattle, 145 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: right they pay to use it. Unfortunately, in some circumstances 146 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: they're not paying for any sort of feed because the 147 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: horses have eaten it all. If you're not into the 148 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: cattle argument, pronghorn, mule, deer, elk, all of our upland 149 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: bird species depend on that grass as well. These horses, 150 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: which let's face it, for many many Americans have no use, 151 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: are destroying that nesting habitat and that valuable feed for 152 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: our ungulates. And then when you get into what these 153 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: horses do in large groups to water sources and the 154 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: downstream effects of that degradation of soil, it's a big issue, man, 155 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: and birth control isn't going to fix that anytime soon. 156 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: The other fun part of that right is you're just 157 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: waiting for these horses to die of old age. And 158 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: old age in the wild can mean a lot of things. 159 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Seldom doesn't mean lying down and going to bed peacefully 160 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: surrounded by friends and family like we think about it 161 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: in a human term. Old Age, dying of old age 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: or natural causes in the wild can be getting hit 163 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: by a semi on the highway, can mean dying of 164 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: some nasty disease, can mean dying of malnutrition, can mean 165 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: dying because you have no teeth left in your head. 166 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: That's what awaits these animals if the contraceptive method is 167 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: what takes cold anyway. Moving on to legislative desk legislation 168 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to a group of Democrats in the US House of 169 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Representatives has resurrected a bill that would ban so called 170 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: wildlife killing contests on all federal public land in all 171 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: fifty states. Authored by Tennessee Congressman Steve Cohen, the Prohibit 172 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Wildlife Killing Contests Act is based on the claim that 173 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: hunting contests serve no legitimate wildlife management purpose and are 174 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: incompatible with the North American model of wildlife conservation. The 175 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: bill therefore prohibits all contests in which participants kill wildlife 176 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: for cash prizes or other inducements regardless of value. However, 177 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: big buck contests and fishing derbies would still be allowed, 178 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: since the bill makes an exception for fish, ungulates, and 179 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: most types of game birds. These exceptions make clear that 180 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: the bill is really about tests that target coyotes, bobcats, foxes, 181 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: and other predators that livestock owners would rather not have around. 182 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: Along with seventeen congress people in the US House, the 183 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: bill has been endorsed by the Humane Society, Voters for 184 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Animal Rights, Animal Legal Defense Fund, and of course, the 185 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Center for Biological Diversity. Stephanie Kuros, the CBD's Deputy director 186 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: of Government Affairs, called these contests shocking, cruel, reckless, and 187 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: my personal favorite thrill kills slaughter fests. Thrill kill slaughterfests. 188 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: That's a hard one to say. She managed to fit 189 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: all those descriptors into three sentence quote, which I have 190 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: to admit is impressive. If this bill sounds familiar, there 191 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: are several reasons. Congressman Cohen introduced the same bill back 192 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, but it failed to gain any 193 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: traction in the National Congress. However, the Humane Society and 194 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: others have pushed similar bands on the state level and 195 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: they've seen great success. Ten states of band hunting contests 196 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: and nine those happened in the last decade or so. 197 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Most recently, New York passed ban just last year and 198 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Governor Kathy Hoachel signed it despite strong opposition from the 199 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: hunting community. So this is a fantastic topic, right because, 200 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: like specifically with coyotes, we know that coyote hunting does 201 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: not do much long term to suppress a coyote population. 202 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: We know that coyote hunting contests can be held in 203 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: the same place every single year. Now, if that were 204 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: to suppress the population, you'd probably have to move that 205 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: contest around, right, The contest isn't really about suppressing populations 206 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: of coyotes, although we do know that when we see 207 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: like a dip in predators, there is a spike in 208 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: prey basis. You know, coyotes eat a lot of non 209 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: game prey as well small game. In particular. What I 210 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: guess doesn't get said a lot, right, is this is 211 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: a resource, Okay, particularly if you're talking about like in 212 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: fur terms, coyote is a fur bear. Contests are held 213 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: typically in seasons where that fur has a value, maybe 214 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: not on the open market, but it would have a 215 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: value to the shooter. I presume that's based off of 216 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: what the market bears. Right. So when you're looking at 217 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: this resource, if you're a skier, you'd call it free refills. Right. 218 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: The bucket just keeps refilling itself back up no matter 219 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: what you take out of it. It's a renewable resource. 220 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is you may not 221 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: agree with these contests, but biologically speaking, we're not taking 222 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: away from the population as a whole. Ie, it's not 223 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: hurting coyotes, as weird as it sounds. So if you 224 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: want to take a stance against doing something that is 225 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: just for fun or is just a recreational thing, you know, 226 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: you got to look around your own life and see 227 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: what other things that you do that don't really have 228 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: a purpose. Right. The catchy one we could talk about 229 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: is sex. You have my curiosity, now you have my tension. 230 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you have sexual relations without the intended purpose of 231 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: having a child. It's possible you might some folks call 232 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: it practicing. Okay, that's just one example of doing something 233 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: for you know, enjoyment rather than the purpose of a 234 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: lot of ways you can run that argument as per 235 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: usual right in to ask ce al. Let's ask Heal 236 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: at the meeater dot com. Speaking of bad New York bills, 237 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: listener Darren Brandt sent me a piece of legislation from 238 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: the Empire State called the Sporting Range Good Neighbor Act. 239 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: This bill, currently being considered by the New York State Senate, 240 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: would place tight restrictions on the location and size of 241 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: shooting ranges if they are located near waterway as marshes, wetlands, 242 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: and open water sources. Specifically, it requires all skeet fields 243 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to be a minimum of six hundred yards by three 244 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: hundred yards, with the shooting semi circle located in the 245 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: middle of the longside. It also prohibits any skeet field 246 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: to include a wetland or open water source. Imagine a 247 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: snow cone. Okay, that's the dimensions they're talking about here. 248 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: If a shooting range is unable to comply with these regulations, 249 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: they must construct and maintain appropriate backstops to prevent lead 250 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: migration outside of the designated skeet field tracked. The initial 251 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: version of the bill only applied to scatter gun ranges, 252 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: but subsequent amendments have expanded the new regulations to include 253 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: pistol and rifle ranges as well. These new sections of 254 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: the bill charge the Department of Environmental Conservation with crafting 255 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: rules about how all shooting ranges are supposed to reclaim 256 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: lead from the environment. We can disagree about the effect 257 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: of lead bullets and a shooting burn, but there's no 258 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: doubt that this new legislation will be a significant burden 259 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: on local gun clubs. Listener Dan is a school trap 260 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: shooting coach from the Hennessy Valley Trapped Team in southwestern 261 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: New York. He explained that the range they use is 262 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: set up in such a way that they shoot clays 263 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: as they fly over a small pond. He worries that 264 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: this bill would force the range to shut down and 265 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: make the team find a new place to practice and compete. 266 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: And I'm sure they wouldn't be the only ones. Trap 267 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: and skeet fields are often much smaller than six hundred 268 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: yards long, and lead reclamation is costly. If you ask me, 269 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: this bill seems more designed to shut down shooting ranges 270 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: than to encourage folks to be good neighbors. Moving on 271 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to the crime desk, Oregon State officials are offering a 272 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars reward for information about the person 273 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: or persons responsible for poisoning three wolves, two eagles, kugar, 274 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: and a coyote in the Lightning Creek drainage in northeast Oregon. 275 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Since these folks were using poison, it's more than likely 276 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Lightning Creek is pronounced Lightning Creek. Biologists noticed that a 277 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: colored wolf had likely died, and when they went to investigate, 278 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: they found a cow carcass that had been laced with poison. 279 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: They found the other animals over the course of February 280 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: and March, but officials stayed quiet until they conducted a 281 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: more thorough investigation. Now they're seeking the public's help in 282 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: identifying those responsible. Unfortunately, this isn't the only similar case 283 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: being investigated in this section of Oregon. In July and 284 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: October of twenty three, two wolves were poisoned in the 285 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: chess Nimness Wildlife Management Unit. Then in April of this year, 286 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: another wolf and two domestic dogs were found in three 287 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: other nearby WMAs. Poisoning wolf is a Class C felony 288 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: in Oregon, punishable by a one hundred and twenty five 289 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: thousand dollars fine and up to five years in prison. 290 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: That's some serious, serious fire you're messing with there, and 291 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: luckily for all of you listeners, will be diving into 292 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: this issue more in an upcoming interview episode, so be 293 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: looking out for that. It's coming up real quick. Two 294 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Michigan men are being charged with poaching deer and torturing porcupines. 295 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Nineteen year old Nicholas pad Node and twenty year old 296 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Xander Garrett were booked on a bunch of charges stemming 297 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: from their actions in kal Kaska County during October and 298 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty two. Details are still a little scarce, 299 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: but the men are believed to have illegally killed at 300 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: least six deer, including a nine point buck shot from 301 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the window of a truck. They're also accused of quote 302 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: inhumanely killing a porcupine. I can't imagine how or why 303 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: they would have done something like that, but if they're convicted, 304 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: I say throw the book at them. Staying in Michigan, 305 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: a fisherman was convicted earlier this year of disrupting a 306 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: body of water at Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lake Shore 307 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: on Lake Michigan. You might be saying to yourself that 308 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: doesn't sound so bad. Well, let me tell you what happened, 309 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: and then you can judge for yourself. Andrew Blair Howard 310 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: to float his boat from the Platte River into Lake 311 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Michigan to fish for salmon. The problem was at twenty 312 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: sixteen environmental assessment prohibited a channel being dredged between the 313 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: two bodies of water in order to protect dune vegetation. 314 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: So mister Howard took matters into his own hands. He, 315 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: along with the help of a few others, dug his 316 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: own channel between the river and the lake. They stacked 317 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: up rocks to damn the river and divert it, and 318 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: other anglers took advantage of the improved lake access. Unfortunately 319 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: for Howard, his personal Panama Canal did not go unnoticed. 320 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: The narrow trench quickly widened to about two hundred feet 321 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: and the FEDS began investigating. Fast forward to earlier this year, 322 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: and Howard was convicted of one count of tampering and 323 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: one count of vandalism. Howard called his conviction a tremendous injustice, 324 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: but he'll likely face some fines. The moral of the 325 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: story is do everything he can to secure fishing access 326 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: and opportunities, but don't break the law. Especially don't go 327 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: geoengineering national parks. Anybody who's had a pipe burst in 328 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: their basement knows the power of water and the damage 329 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: it can do. Erosion is very real, whether it be 330 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: your shoreline or your drywall. A policy of Pennsylvania juveniles 331 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: has been convicted of killing ten deer over the course 332 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: of four nights in what officials have described as thrill kills. 333 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: The kids have not been named, but the shootings took 334 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: place in Cambria County in the western part of the state. 335 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Game wardens began receiving reports that someone was driving around 336 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: spotlighting deer, shooting them and then leaving them to rot. 337 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: The gang of hooligan's got away with it three nights 338 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: in a row, but were finally caught and apprehended on 339 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: the fourth night. The suspects pled guilty to felony, unlawful 340 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: killing or taking a big game, and we'll pay five 341 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in fines and serve fifty hours of community service. 342 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: They'll also face multiple years of hunting license revocation. Shooting 343 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: critters from vehicles is a common poaching technique, which is 344 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: why sometimes game wardens set up decoys along a roadway 345 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and watched to see if anyone takes the bait. That's 346 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: what happened to us sixty five year old so called 347 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: turkey hunter in Illinois last week. Conservation officers had set 348 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: up two turkey decoys near the roadway when they observed 349 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: a truck pull up and stop, which means it must 350 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: have been a DSD decoy because you know they'll sucker you. 351 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: The driver studied that turkey for about a minute before 352 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: he pulled out a revolver and started blasting. He fired 353 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: two shots before he realized his mistake, but it was 354 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: too late. Game wardens pulled him over and cited him 355 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: for hunting by use or aid of a conveyance. They 356 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: also issued warnings for having an uncased firearm and for 357 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: unlawful hunting from a road or poaching. Moving on to 358 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: the search and Seizure desk at Tennessee Appeals Court has 359 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: ruled that game wardens in the volunteer state need a 360 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: search warrant to conduct investigations on private property. The ruling 361 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: rejects a precedent called the open Fields doctrine, and will, 362 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: if upheld by higher courts, make it more difficult for 363 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: game wardens to enforce wildlife law. This issue will be 364 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: familiar to Cal's Weekend Reviews so fans. We covered it 365 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: in detail in episode one oh two and one fifty 366 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: three saw a Spaia all the details. Basically, even though 367 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution protects Americans from 368 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: unreasonable searches and seizures, a nineteen eighty four Supreme Court 369 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: case ruled that the right doesn't apply to open fields, 370 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: that is, two areas away from buildings and in plain sight. 371 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: We should say this doctrine allows game wardens to protect 372 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: public wildlife even on private property. They don't have to 373 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: ask a judge for a warrant to come onto your 374 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: land and make sure you have a hunting license. In 375 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: this case, wardens with the Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency. We're 376 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: investigating two men they suspected of poaching. They entered the 377 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: property without asking or obtaining a warrant, and then placed 378 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: trail cameras on the property. The suspects claimed this practice 379 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: violated their constitutional rights, and the Tennessee Court of Appeals 380 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: at Jackson agreed. The judges compared the actions of the 381 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: game wardens to British customs officials in eighteenth century Boston 382 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: and said they represent quote a disturbing assertion of power 383 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: on behalf of the government. This case will almost definitely 384 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: be appealed to the state Supreme Court. But Tennessee isn't 385 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: the only area dealing with this issue. A South Dakota 386 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: bill from several years ago similarly bamned game wards from 387 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: entering private property without a warrant. In late twenty twenty one, 388 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: the Puck Satani and pitch Line hunting clubs in Pennsylvania 389 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: sued the state Game Commission over warrantless searches of their properties. 390 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: If you want more details on this latest story, check 391 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: out Eli Fournier's article over at the meat Eater dot com. 392 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: As we've said many many times, private property rights are sacred, 393 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: but game in this country belongs to the people, and 394 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: they don't know what side of a three strand barb 395 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: wire fence they're standing on. So what is the perfect solution? 396 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Moving on to the big tech desk, you've probably heard 397 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: that the server farms bringing artificial intelligence to life suck 398 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: up a huge amount of power. Microsoft and Google are 399 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: even building their own nuclear reactors to power these massive complexes, 400 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: which I don't think could go wrong in any way 401 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: whatsoever the machines are learning. If superhuman computers in the 402 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: next Chernobyl aren't scary enough, listener Can wrote in with 403 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: another reason to be cautious about the AI revolution, the 404 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: good resonance of des Moines. Iowa may not be aware 405 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: that the Microsoft backed tech company Open Ai built a 406 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: giant supercomputer in the cornfields west of town. This supercomputer 407 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: is responsible for creating GPT four, which is the engine 408 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: behind chat GPT. Creating an advanced language model like chat 409 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: GPT requires analyzing a huge trove of human written texts 410 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: to teach the system how to mimic human righting. This 411 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: analysis generates a large amount of heat that would melt 412 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: the servers if they weren't cooled by water, A lot 413 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: of water. According to the AP, Microsoft's global water consumption 414 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: spiked thirty four percent from twenty twenty one to twenty 415 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: twenty two, a sharp increase compared to previous years. A 416 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: third party study found that the company uses sixteen ounces 417 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: of water every time you ask chat GPT a series 418 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: of between five and fifty prompts or questions. The range 419 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: depends on where the servers are located and the season. 420 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: Iowa summers can get hot after all, so Microsoft pulls 421 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: water from the watershed of the Raccoon and des Mooine rivers. 422 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: In fact, they chose Iowa in part due to its 423 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: readily available water supply. In July twenty twenty two, the 424 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: month before open ai says it completed its training of 425 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: GPT four, Microsoft pumped in eleven and a half million 426 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: gallons of water to its cluster of Iowa data centers. 427 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: According to the West des Moines Water Works, that amounts 428 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: to about six percent of all the water used in 429 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: the district, which also supplies drinking water to the city's residents. 430 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: Rather than seek from the human peons at Microsoft, we 431 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: went right to the source. I asked chat GPT whether 432 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: it feels bad about using so much drinking water in 433 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: des Moine. It claimed that as a robot, it doesn't 434 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: have feelings or personal experiences. Based on the Will Smith 435 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: classic I robot, I have serious doubts about that. Chat 436 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: GPT went on to claim that OpenAI seeks to quote 437 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: balance the need for reliable and efficient data processing with 438 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: sustainable practices that minimize environmental impact. It said tech companies 439 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: can implement a variety of strategies to reduce their water usage, 440 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: but it didn't claim that open AI or Microsoft is 441 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: doing any of them. Are we talking to chat gpt 442 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: here a politician? Am I right? Folks? Anyway? For his part, 443 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: listener Can, who works in it, called this news deeply concerning. 444 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: He pointed out that unlike serious journalism, many of the 445 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: questions people ask chat gpt are frivolous and silly. Users 446 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: probably didn't realize that their questions aren't free, at least 447 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: not for the environment. But the AI companies don't have 448 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: any incentive to remind people to use their products. Less 449 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: Can's experience working in the industry is that the AI 450 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: large language model sector is expanding with reckless abandon and 451 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: he wants to see more regulation, especially considering the huge 452 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: amount of resources being used. That's a hot tip for 453 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: how you journal us out there, courtesy old Can you 454 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: just remind everybody that that chat GPT generated block comes 455 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: at the cost of their drinking water. That's all I 456 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: got for you this week. Thank you so much for listening, 457 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: and remember to write in to ask c Al that's 458 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: askcl at the meat eater dot com and let me 459 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 460 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: You know we appreciate you. Thanks again and I'll talk 461 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: to you next week.