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Speaker 1: He's also a Saint Louis guy, Steve. Do you happen

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Speaker 1: his division. Okay, Tyler Lockett, he came Metcalf. Two dudes

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Speaker 1: who can blow the top off of things. Okay, on

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Speaker 1: the same team. The Rams don't necessarily have that guy.

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Speaker 1: Even though Cooper Cup is a great catching run guy.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers don't necessarily have that guy, even

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Speaker 1: though with Deebo, Samuel's a great catch and run guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I big target. So that's where you say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we look at the competition in our division and maybe

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Speaker 1: he's someone who can fit our schaming. Maybe he's someone

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Speaker 1: who fits what we like to do. He's playing in

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Speaker 1: the thirty four front for most of his career, so

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Speaker 1: maybe he can come in again and do advanced Joseph

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Speaker 1: likes to do. So possibly it'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: You remember, there wasn't a huge market for him when

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Speaker 1: he became available a couple of years ago. Tennessee grabbing

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Speaker 1: from New England. We'll see the repeat factors he's a

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Speaker 1: really really good player. It's just a top end speed

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Speaker 1: that scarce. He's got to be in the right scheme.

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Speaker 1: I like the Marvin Jones suggestion. No doubt about a

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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel is out there as well. It's just at

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Speaker 1: this point, for whatever reason, it just seems recently that

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Speaker 1: rookie receivers have had a hard time making an instant impact.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen receivers when the first two rounds last year, that

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Speaker 1: was a record in terms of the draft, and honestly

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Speaker 1: two or three really had a meaningful instant impact on

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Speaker 1: their teams. I feel more comfortable these days going after

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Speaker 1: a veteran, established receiver if you have a need at

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Speaker 1: that position. So we'll get into that. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: the rest of the vision and the quarterback situation as

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Speaker 1: we put our head on and look over the block

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Speaker 1: wall into Seattle and San Francisco in LA's backyard. And

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Speaker 1: then two words Wolf right now said on Steve White's

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Speaker 1: podcast earlier today. It blew up Twitter and the Internet.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that next Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: Santan Porn and Gilbert. We are Satan Porn, Murray and

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Speaker 1: Shotgun has the football short set throws a default left

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Speaker 1: side single coverage and it is pulled in by DeAndre Hopkins. Man,

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Speaker 1: He's got a touchdown. What a throw by Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: and want to catch great throw by Kyler Murray, but

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Speaker 1: an even better re touchdown snapped to Murray and he

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Speaker 1: keeps it himself running left. Got a defender with him

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Speaker 1: at the five breaks a tackle, dives, ball comes out,

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Speaker 1: but he crossed the plane. Touchdown Kyler Murray. Somehow Subway

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Speaker 1: found a way to do Dad pig Across paid her

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Speaker 1: big time play by Kyler Murray as part of a

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Speaker 1: Week seven win against the Seahawks where the Cardinals trailed

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Speaker 1: by double digits three different times in that game, Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: where was your NFC Offensive Player of the week? And guys,

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Speaker 1: if you remember, that was the first time ever since

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has been the starting quarterback with the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks had led a game by ten at

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Speaker 1: a half and lost. Russell Wilson had been thirty and

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Speaker 1: oh until that win by the Cardinals to go five

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Speaker 1: and two. Of course, they lost five of the last

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Speaker 1: seven and just missed the playoffs. We're kicking around the

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Speaker 1: NFC West. Here was Steve White a pleasure to have

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Network reporter and we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: podcast here momentarily. That made a lot of headlines today.

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Speaker 1: Let's just run the know huddle real quick around the

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Speaker 1: NFC West in the quarterback situations because obviously there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of news, a lot of drama there. Give us

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Speaker 1: a quick thought on Kyler year two and what you

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Speaker 1: expect year three on the Cardinals young quarterback Steve. Look,

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Speaker 1: Kylie was doing it. He hurt that shoulder, you know

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Speaker 1: he was he was playing well, he was throwing the

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Speaker 1: ball well. The way that they were mixing up the

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Speaker 1: variety of options. You know a lot of people thought

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Speaker 1: everything was RPO, but Ron you know this, they were

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Speaker 1: running some old school speed option, like old Oklahoma Arkansas

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Speaker 1: type stuff where he was killing teams. So I think

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Speaker 1: year three he is going to be better, especially if

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Speaker 1: they get him, you know, another big guy on the

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Speaker 1: wide out, like I was saying Marvin Jones. But they've

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Speaker 1: got to fix that offensive line. They have got to

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Speaker 1: come up with ways to fix the offensive line or

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Speaker 1: scheme with scheme or personnel to help him out a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But I think he's going to continue to grow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's just so talented. He's not a

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Speaker 1: guy who's going to take a step back as long

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Speaker 1: as he stays healthy. Speaking of offensive lines and the

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Speaker 1: impact that it has on a quarterback, what can you

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Speaker 1: tell us right now of Russell Wilson. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is going to be a Seattle Seahawk when

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Speaker 1: the season starts. I do, I do. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: too rich to get him, and I think teams would

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Speaker 1: much rather. You know, look, first off, Seattle's not going

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Speaker 1: to trade them, and if their teams are going to

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Speaker 1: give up the bank for a quarterback, they're going to

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Speaker 1: go after the Shawn watching. I believe that's the case.

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Speaker 1: So I think Russell Wilson is back. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: change some things schematically. Remember Shane Waldron, who was with

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay with the Rams, is the new OC, so

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Speaker 1: you're going to see him run more that outside zone

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Speaker 1: and stuff. A lot of the trickeration upfront or even

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Speaker 1: scheme can make up for like overall personnel or talent

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, So that can help, but they've

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Speaker 1: got to find ways to just be more proficient up

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Speaker 1: front before, they've always been happy just running the ball

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Speaker 1: and being great at that and that pass protection thing. Hey, Russell,

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Speaker 1: you figure that part out. They've got to change the

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Speaker 1: thinking there to keep him, to keep him happy, and

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Speaker 1: to keep him standing up right after this year is

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Speaker 1: what's going to be interesting. And as desperate as the

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Speaker 1: Bears are, you're right, it's just not that feasible for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: They take like a thirty nine million dollar dead cap

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Speaker 1: hit if they trade away. Yeah, Russell Wilson, how about

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Speaker 1: in La with the Rams? How much of an upgrade

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Speaker 1: is Matthew Stafford In your opinion, it's conna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see. Look, talent wise and everything, he's we know,

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Speaker 1: we know how talented he is, but he really hasn't

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Speaker 1: been in a situation where he's won before. So maybe

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Speaker 1: he takes off when he just comes to an environment

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Speaker 1: like the Rams have, or success is expected, and not

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Speaker 1: to success on Sundays, that success every day on the

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Speaker 1: practice field, the way they practice to our championship teams practice,

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Speaker 1: so you know they're trying. They've got to get a

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Speaker 1: downfield threat. Because that was a problem with Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: Teams knew if they could keep it you know, when

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Speaker 1: they had Brandon Cooks, there a much more dangerous offense

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Speaker 1: because they had someone to occupy someone deep down the field.

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Speaker 1: When they didn't have that last year. It's much easier

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Speaker 1: for defense is to confuse Jared Goff. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if Matthew Stafford can come in and learn what Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay wants him to do quickly, they're going to be

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean an offensive line that's an issue

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Speaker 1: with them. You know, that's an issue with them. And

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Speaker 1: cap wise, they're going to lose some really good players

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Speaker 1: on defense, like their safety John Johnson. The problem we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose Leonard Floyd. The pass rush are coming off

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Speaker 1: of a great year. Those are two big blows. But

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Speaker 1: somehow the Ramps continue to find ways to develop young

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Speaker 1: players to shine, especially on defense. When you got number

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Speaker 1: ninety nine having the same impact that I said that

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Speaker 1: JJ watch had half for players for the Cardinals. We'll

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Speaker 1: see about Jimmy g and his future with the Niners

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Speaker 1: was a lot floating out there. Maybe Sam Darnold. We

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Speaker 1: all hope and pray it's not DeShawn Watson go out

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Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers And with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: Earlier today on your Huddle and Flow podcast, your partner

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Speaker 1: Jim Trotter asked new Houston head coach David Culley about

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Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback. Will Deshaun Watson be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans in twenty twenty one? He is

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Speaker 1: our starting quarterback as of right now. He is our

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Things happened between now and then, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Wow, what happened after that? Is

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Speaker 1: the question? Steve, take us through it. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: we called him on it. We were like, there it is, Jim,

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Speaker 1: there's the dreaded right now. Like Jared Goff was our

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback as of right now. You guys know in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: Josh Roseen's our guy right now. The big difference is

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Speaker 1: those proclamations were made by general managers, guys who have

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Speaker 1: control over the roster. This was made by his new

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Speaker 1: head coach, who I think was unfairly served up to

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Speaker 1: the media today because he made a bunch of media rounds,

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Speaker 1: so he had to answer question after questioning with this

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Speaker 1: and he's not the one making the decision on Deshaun Watson. However,

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Speaker 1: he did leave open when Jim and I spoke to him,

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Speaker 1: which he didn't do another interviews, I would say the

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Speaker 1: more the more, so a probability than a possibility of

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson being traded. You know, later on the interview

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Speaker 1: he said, look, Deshaun's our guy now, but we're going

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Speaker 1: to move forward with guys who are all in and

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Speaker 1: guys who want to be here. Well, we know Deshaun

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Speaker 1: is not all in and doesn't want to be there,

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Speaker 1: so there seems to be a door opening to the

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Speaker 1: possibility of them listening to offer. So if a team

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Speaker 1: liked the Niners or the Jets or the Dolf comes correct,

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised in the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a decision on Deshaun Watson sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, and here's the caveat. Let's say the

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Speaker 1: Jets are happy with Arnold, and let's say the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are happy with Tua. So Carolina and the Niners are

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Speaker 1: like the next teams, Well, they may not have to

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Speaker 1: give up the bounty because they may not have the

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Speaker 1: competition if the Jets and the Dolphins stand still, So

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Speaker 1: they may not have to give up as much as

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Speaker 1: they normally would. So then the Texans are really in

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Speaker 1: a pickle and do they play chicken with Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: So really odd situation. I really felt bad for David

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Speaker 1: Culley being put out there and served up the way

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Speaker 1: he did without support from the people who are actually

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Speaker 1: making the personnel decisions. Because he's a fantastic man. I

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Speaker 1: wish him the best. But it's really really good and

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Speaker 1: interesting down in Houston. So to me, Steve, they have

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Speaker 1: to trade him, and they do. They're just posturing right

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Speaker 1: now to build up some type of leverage and let

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Speaker 1: people know we are not going to trade Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's never going to happen. We're not going to trade him.

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Speaker 1: And then of course once they get what they want,

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Speaker 1: they'll trade them. They have to do that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is a scenario you see unfolded, correct, I would think. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't want to be there. They can

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Speaker 1: get an awful lot from teams again, like I was

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Speaker 1: talking about Carolina a Niners, and yet, so to me,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go ahead and blow it up with

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Speaker 1: d Hop and you're gonna blow it up with jj WI,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and move the Sean right, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: start new and start a whole new regime. They'll let

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Speaker 1: your fan base know exactly what your philosophy is, and

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Speaker 1: they'll give everybody an opportunity to figure things out while

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Speaker 1: they start from scratch. What do you think the Niners

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Speaker 1: are going to do? Ultimately? They're not gonna stick with

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g if they can help it, are they? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 1: If they can find something better, they'll they'll find something better.

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Speaker 1: But they're not going to I don't think they're going

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Speaker 1: to go crazy and say we've we've got to move

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Speaker 1: you know, four first round draft picks or three first

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Speaker 1: round draft picks and you know, Fred Warner to make

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Speaker 1: this happen. They're not going to do that. They're not

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Speaker 1: that type of franchise. So if they can get something

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Speaker 1: fee and maybe it's not a Deshaun Watson, but you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody else. I've heard, you know, mix mixed reviews

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Speaker 1: from people there on Tam Darnold. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: they're more than willing to sit tight than to break

639
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Speaker 1: the bank on somebody. But if somebody does become available

640
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Speaker 1: what they like, I think they're definitely gonna go swimming

641
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Speaker 1: in those waters. Steve, every time we talk to you, man, seriously,

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Speaker 1: absolutely love it. Thank you for joining us tonight. I

643
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Speaker 1: appreciate a big guy. Okay, appreciate you guys for having me,

644
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Speaker 1: especially since you've had quite a day. All right, you've

645
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Speaker 1: been all over Twitter. I mean, you know, lead story

646
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Speaker 1: in a lot of these uh NFL websites. So once

647
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Speaker 1: again the podcast is Huddle and Flow Steve Whitch and

648
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Jim Trotter, available on Apple and Spotify. So once again, Steve,

649
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Speaker 1: thanks and all the best year over the next couple

650
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: of weeks. In free agency. We appreciate that, and will

651
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: we'll digest exactly what Steve Whitch had to say there,

652
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: not only when it comes to what might happen within

653
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Speaker 1: the division. Here what he his take on the wide

654
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: receiver and cornerback spot when it comes to free agency.

655
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Speaker 1: All that more straight ahead, it is the Big Red

656
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford.

657
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Speaker 1: I looked at the changes that the Cliff has made

658
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: with his coaching staff are going to be big improvements.

659
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Our run game was a strength earlier in the season,

660
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Speaker 1: and promoting Sean Crueler to a run game coordinator, I

661
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: think we're going to continue to improve. I know who

662
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: Cooks is and I know if he's involved, I know

663
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: we're going to be downhill and we're gonna be running

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Speaker 1: that people, and we're gonna be physical because that's just

665
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Speaker 1: why he coached, That's who we are as a humanity.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited gratulations to know. I'm super excited for

667
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: my guy coups DJ Humpreese, former host of The Big

668
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: Red Rage, preceded by Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell. And it's undeniable.

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Speaker 1: Both when the Cardinals had the high scoring, high flying

670
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: offense this second half twenty nineteen and the first half

671
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, the common denominator a potent run game,

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Speaker 1: a run game that over the first nine games of

673
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: this season was averaging better than one hundred and sixty

674
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: yards per and over the tail end of the season

675
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals finished two and five, they're averaging about

676
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten yards or less rushing per game,

677
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: including that finale against the Rams where they got stymied.

678
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: So you heard the emphasis from a couple of key

679
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: cogs in this Cardinals operation going into this season, and yeah,

680
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: it seems like there'll be more of an emphasis than

681
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: ever on being a balanced offense and having that potent

682
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: run game back, no doubt about it. Belly. First of all,

683
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: you have to understand that, I know everyone says, well,

684
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: he's been doing that. He's been doing that for the

685
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals since he showed up here, And you're absolutely right,

686
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Coogs has been basically the

687
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Speaker 1: run game coordinator without the title and without the pay raise.

688
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I might add, so Paulli, you know what, and now

689
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's got a title and he's

690
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: got a pay raise in the NFL. And I've said

691
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: this many times, more pay more, say right, That's what

692
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: it comes down to. And I think the culture of

693
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Speaker 1: this offensive line and how they go about their business

694
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Speaker 1: is going to be one of the biggest changes in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I think we're going to try to

696
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Speaker 1: run the ball in a more physical way. And it

697
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: starts with a thought, Paul, it starts with an expectation.

698
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: It starts with saying to these guys, this is how

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Speaker 1: we're going to run the ball. We're gonna bank on

700
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you is what we're gonna do. We're gonna hope that

701
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: you can line up DJ Humphreys and just be better

702
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: than the guy across from you. That's going to be

703
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: our expectation. And suddenly, when you bring that burden of

704
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: expectation down on an offensive line, not only do they

705
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: typically welcome it, but I think they thrive under it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals debut a new piece of content.

707
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Speaker 1: It's called Debate This You're gonna easy Cardinals dot com.

708
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Speaker 1: You can check it out. There's gonna be an episode

709
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: coming out where it's Me versus Kyle. Okay, And we

710
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: got into it a little bit, got a little personal

711
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: when it came to the offensive line Ron Wolfley and

712
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: the question was this over under the number of new

713
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: starting offensive linemen going into this year too? Wow? And

714
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I said absolutely over Are you kidding me? It's DJ

715
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: Humphreyson could be fifty two card pickup. We've already heard

716
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler talk about they want to upgrade at center

717
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: now whether that's internal and those guys raise the level

718
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: of play. We know right guard was unsettled and JR.

719
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Speaker 1: Sweezy most likely is not coming back. We know right

720
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Speaker 1: tackle Calvin Beachum is up is going to be a

721
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Speaker 1: free agent. Don't know what the deal is. Marcus Gilbert,

722
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Speaker 1: maybe Josh Jones that's looking to be a change starter there,

723
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Speaker 1: and as well as Justin Pugh played. He dealt with

724
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Speaker 1: some injuries last year and he's got a big cap number,

725
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Speaker 1: so who knows what might happen there. Yeah, No, Paul,

726
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: you're right on that. Honestly, Listen, it's a it's a

727
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: great question. Two or three somewhere in there. I could

728
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: see three if you want to build that argument. I

729
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: could easily see three new starters on that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Two I think seems more likely to me. I don't

731
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Speaker 1: know what Kyle's answer was to you, PAULI I say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we got into it a little bit. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I could see, man, you bring up

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: you bring up a name, Paul, nobody's gonna talk about.

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna yawn. Everyone's gonna roll their eyes when I

736
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: say about Marcus Gilbert. I, Paul, you know what kind

737
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Speaker 1: of dog Marcus Gilbert is? You know what kind of

738
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: leader Marcus Gilbert is? Can I tell you right now?

739
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Speaker 1: When he was with the Arizona Cardinals before he opted

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00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: out of the season, before he got hurt, I could

741
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: tell you right now, Marcus Gilbert was their best lineman,

742
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Speaker 1: and I think everyone will tell you that, including DJ

743
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Speaker 1: Humphries at that point in time in his career. I

744
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: think he will tell you that. I think Marcus Gilbert

745
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: is really really good for that offensive line room. And

746
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Speaker 1: then maybe Paul, just maybe, and we've heard Coogs actually

747
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: address this, maybe you kick down Josh Jones as a guard.

748
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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, he's not on the

749
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Speaker 1: eight and he's not out on the edge at the

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Speaker 1: left tackle or the right tackle. He eases his way

751
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Speaker 1: in as a starter on the offensive line at the

752
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Speaker 1: guard position. Is that a possibility? I think it is.

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Speaker 1: At six seven, he just doesn't appear to be your

754
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: quintessential guard rush Jones. But then you remember guys like

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00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Alex Boone it was six to eight and he was

756
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Speaker 1: an All Pro, you know, for the forty nine or

757
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: so Kelly, if you can get him raps, right, I mean,

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00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: if you can get him raps into the game and

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00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: not put him out on the edge where stuff gets

760
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: a little Harry Paul as a young player, maybe you

761
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: can build his confidence before you kick him out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna ask what everybody's thinking right now,

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, are you Are you not reporting that Marcus

764
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Gilbert is tracking to come back and play right tackle

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Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty. I'm not reporting that, Paul,

766
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I am not, but I do know that this guy

767
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: can flat out play. Has he said he's going to retire?

768
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: Paul as he said that right now? Because I haven't

769
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: read anything where Marcus Gilbert said he was going to retire.

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Speaker 1: And if the Arizona Cardinals still have a crack at

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Speaker 1: Marcus Gilbert, which I think they do, man, I'll tell

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00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: you what, I don't think there's gonna be anybody that

773
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Speaker 1: will beat him out in camp. How about that? If

774
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Speaker 1: you go back the last two years of the Big

775
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Speaker 1: Red Rage, would you say our episode with Marcus Gilbert

776
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Speaker 1: was top five? Oh? No, he is just fails. He

777
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: is beyond impressive. And so you're pulling about not only

778
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Speaker 1: has he not retired? You're right, that's curious. Absolutely, he's

779
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna have fresh legs, that's for sure. But the leadership

780
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: that this Cardinals team in the last month of the

781
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: season in particular, appear to be sorely lacking. Does that

782
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: happen again? If Marcus Gilbert is in that locker room,

783
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: is in that offensive huddle, just like the Cardinals put

784
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money out there for JJ Watt. It

785
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: wasn't just his play on the field, it's what he

786
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: does off the field. Never forget, Bully. It starts with

787
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: a thought, though, and then you got to act on

788
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: that thought. Okay, all right, we'll see what else. Wolf

789
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: hints at heavily and then denies he's reporting. When we

790
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: come back on the big Red Rage presented by Santan

791
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. Nope, Kurt Warner with an absolutely perfect

792
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: pass right on the muddy old gray Beard looked sharp?

793
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Speaker 1: Dudn't he his current Warner sick? Or watch Kurt? You

794
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: have to be kidding me right there right throw by

795
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Hert Warner using the kung fu grim you

796
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Speaker 1: want to talk about, cool as a cucumber and the refrigerator,

797
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: the gloved one leading him down the field again. Wow,

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner isn't in the zone. He is the zone.

799
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner could throw a twinky into a toaster. I mean,

800
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: this guy is on fire. Never a bad time to

801
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: talk about the gloved one. Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer,

802
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: but it comes up this week. Our Jim Almahondro reminded

803
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: us that Kurt was signed as a free agent by

804
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals sixteen years ago this week. So that's our

805
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: installment of now we feel old as sixteen years ago

806
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Kurt Warners signed as an Arizona Cardinal and we all

807
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: know what the aftermath of that was, not only leading

808
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals of Super Bowl forty three, but honestly, Wolf

809
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: and I think you backed me up on this, his

810
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: signing went a long way towards changing the Cardinals culture permanently, no,

811
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: perminally permanently. Yeah, So with that in mind, and we

812
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: know the Cardinals could use some extra leadership, right JJ Watt.

813
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: Big reason he was signed is there a dream free

814
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: agent you have out there right now that you'd sign

815
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: on the line that has dotted Paully. You know that

816
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in the line of scrimmage right now,

817
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: and I think the Arizona Cardinals is just my opinion,

818
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: I think they need to get more physical on both

819
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. JJ Watt went a long way

820
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: towards getting the Cardinals more physical on the defensive side

821
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: of the ball. In that culture. That dogness, if you will,

822
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: is going to spread. I think in that locker room

823
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Now they need

824
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: something on the offensive side of the ball. If I

825
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: could pick one, if I could pick one free agent,

826
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: paul it'd be Corey Linsley, all center from the Green

827
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. And you know what, It's funny because I

828
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: was already looking if it not Corey Linsley and Alex

829
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: mack is out there that gem. But Alex is thirty

830
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: five years one thing. Worry about it at some point

831
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: in time. But he's known as a maller. I'm with you. He's, yeah,

832
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: one one of those guys who's gonna set the tone.

833
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: And we know, we know Kyler and his stature. And

834
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong on this. But if

835
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: there's one thing that really harasses him and his effective

836
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: and that's pressure up the middle. And if you can

837
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: get that center to be part of a stout interior

838
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: offensive line this coming season, I think that goes a

839
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: long way towards re establishing him and his pocket prowess

840
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: as a passer. No, Paula, you're right on that thing, No,

841
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: don about it. I think you go back you look

842
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: at some of the Oklahoma film where they used to

843
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: run play action, whether it was out of the shotgun

844
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: to pistol, whatever it was, they would run play action

845
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: and then he'd that up in the pocket and they'd

846
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: go with a protection of six or seven man protection

847
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: and he'd take a shot down the field. That's what

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals also need to do as well,

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Speaker 1: not only improve on the liner scrimmage on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball, but have Kyler Murray more under center,

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Speaker 1: running that tackle zone and then pulling up and throwing

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Speaker 1: play action from the pocket, from deep in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: hitting crossing routes down the field of the likes of

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Well, I'll tell you what, if we have

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Speaker 1: a wish list and its offense, I would definitely be

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Speaker 1: on board with the suggestion from Steve White, our guest

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Speaker 1: tonight from NFL Network. Marvin Jones, the big receiver from

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Speaker 1: the Lions, eighteen touchdown catches the last two years. He's

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Speaker 1: a dog. Curtis Samuel is out there. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see him paired up with DeAndre Hopkins. Soult. We'll see

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Speaker 1: the legal tampering starts Monday. Free agency officially begins next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it special. Thanks Jim, I'm monro Cody fincher Ron.

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