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Speaker 3: Michael mcche USC Professor, James Rector, UC Berkeley professor, And

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Speaker 3: it looks like Los Angeles County wants to ban oil

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Speaker 2: Gonna explain why that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's done because we're you know, for the

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Speaker 3: good of the climate and emissions. But they say that

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Speaker 3: you'll actually worsen the emissions by not extracting the oil

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Speaker 3: Let'll explain all this coming up in a minute. It's

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Speaker 3: fascinating now the gas price averages, I should tell you.

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Speaker 3: While gas prices are falling throughout the country. But there's

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Speaker 2: However, in Oklahoma they're.

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Speaker 3: Two dollars and thirty five cents, so over two bucks last.

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Speaker 3: And even high tax left wing states like New Jersey

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Speaker 2: But here we're at four forty.

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Speaker 3: And there are looked u up yesterday if you didn't

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Speaker 2: And I didn't believe it. I thought it was Ai doctored,

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Speaker 2: Welcome, gentlemen. How are you.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe and Michael.

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Speaker 4: You there, Triffy, John, how are you today?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you could join us. Now, what you're saying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be happy to. You know, there have been

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Speaker 1: And so the industry is pointing the finger at the

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Speaker 1: There are more emission than you think. Well, they're both right,

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Speaker 3: So it would be better to extract it from the

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Speaker 2: Toxic elements are for us to breathe.

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Speaker 2: So the more gas and oil you produce from underground.

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Speaker 4: The seep emissions and the safer LA will be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most people probably wouldn't think that would be true,

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Speaker 1: It's true in they've they've done studies in Santa Barbara

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Speaker 3: Is that right, because the emissions you say they are

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Speaker 3: one hundred times greater than the leaks the emissions.

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Speaker 1: It's like an oil volcano.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's seeping up along these faults, okay, and it's

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Speaker 1: But it's not The oil production is doing a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Michael Masche and he's the USC professor.

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Speaker 3: Michael, if we actually started pumping oil and converting it

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Speaker 4: Well, it certainly would. John as profector Rector and I

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Speaker 3: So this idea that you're promoting here would sounds like

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Speaker 3: a great deal for everybody. We'd have less emissions in

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Speaker 4: What time, Sorry, sorry, I'll let Jam take over from there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's even better than that. There's probably over a

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Speaker 1: may have impacts on things like wildfires, because wildfires sometimes

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, hang on the line.

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Speaker 3: You've just heard Professor James Rector from UC Berkeley and

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Speaker 3: also talking with USC Professor Michael mcche about the vast

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Speaker 3: The city of Los Angeles wants to ban the drilling again,

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Speaker 3: And what Professor Rector and Professor Mache are saying is

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Speaker 3: So it seems like a good deal. But we got

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Speaker 3: I guess, Professor Rector. We were dealing with the La

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Planning Commission, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Planning Commission. And are those bureaucrats or are those elected officials?

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Speaker 3: have you gotten in contact with them to explain how

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Speaker 1: I made a public comment yesterday or maybe it was

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Speaker 3: With them, right, because I mean, how how receptive are

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Speaker 3: it works, and we can show you that things could

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Speaker 3: be better if we just drill for the oil and

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Speaker 3: reduce the seepage and reduce the emissions that are leaking.

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Speaker 1: Well, all I can say is that nobody has contacted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael miche I know you you've been on the

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Speaker 3: in the state, and you've been you've been attacked by

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we have and you know we have

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Speaker 3: Right, and then get rid of the seepitch. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, both of you. We'll talk again.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, all right? You got to hear this? Or

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by this fraud situation in Minnesota with the Somalis.

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Speaker 3: It's just stunning that a billion dollars was looted by

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Speaker 2: I what do.

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Speaker 3: You say this is? That's so ludical, it's so silly.

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Speaker 3: And Waltz is now spitting up all over himself. Every

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just admit it?

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Speaker 3: You were afraid of activist groups and Somali groups of

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Speaker 3: their votes, so you allowed it to happen. The whistleblowers

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Speaker 2: The whistleblowers. Now, what did the what did.

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Speaker 3: These fraudsters do with the proceeds. We've got a story

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Speaker 2: Play cut number one.

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Speaker 6: A honeymoon in the Maldives, a fleet of luxury cars.

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Speaker 6: Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: Neutrova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how a

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Speaker 7: We're not even at the end of the beginning of

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Speaker 6: US attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the

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Speaker 2: So how much.

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Speaker 6: Money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer?

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Speaker 6: In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged,

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Speaker 6: Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are

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Speaker 6: accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed

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Speaker 2: This was a get rich scheme.

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Speaker 6: Andy Lueger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we discovered is that a number

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Speaker 6: Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than

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Speaker 6: there's no evidence that any of these convicted or those

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Speaker 6: to al Shabab. I think that's a fair characterization. These

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Speaker 6: are federally funded programs. They happen in every US state.

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Speaker 6: What happened here in Minnesota that allowed this fraud to

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Speaker 7: It appears that the people at the highest levels of

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Speaker 3: Responsible, so they continue with the racism defense just keeps

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Speaker 3: I mean they should be carrying him out of office

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Speaker 2: They bought lakefront property.

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Speaker 3: There's receipts showing wire transfers to China and East Africa.

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Speaker 2: And he's twenty four years old.

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Speaker 3: And the judge in the case said, where others saw

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Speaker 3: Another guy, abd Aziz Shafi Farah, twenty eight years in prison.

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Speaker 3: He made six transfers each worth more than a million

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Speaker 3: You aren't gonna write a check or a wire transfer

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Speaker 3: In one text, Fara Farah instructed someone to send one

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Speaker 3: one bowl of soup, not one plate of fries, not

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Speaker 3: one bola macaroni.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: There is video where Farah.

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Speaker 3: Is seen popping champagne at a private pool in the Maldives.

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Speaker 3: Ilhad omar that lunatic, who's now another crazy congresswoman. She's

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Speaker 3: the one who married a brother to get him into

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Speaker 3: the country. She went on face the nation and said

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Speaker 3: that any link between allegations of fraud by members of

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Speaker 3: the Somali community and terrorism would be a failure of

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Speaker 3: the FBI. That would be a failure of the FBI

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Speaker 3: in our court system for not figuring that out not

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Speaker 3: a not evil by terrorists, and there are accomplices in

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Speaker 3: the Somali community. It would be the FBI's fault for

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Speaker 3: not figuring it out. Well, it's hard to figure it

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Speaker 3: out when Waltz was covering it all up. Can you

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Speaker 3: believe the depth of this insanity? When we come back,

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Speaker 3: it looks like there's a similar story in Ohio, and

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Speaker 3: we've got an attorney a clip of an attorney who's

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Speaker 3: explaining how bad it is there. It might be even

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Speaker 3: worse than Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Right at Joe.

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Speaker 4: You got to get that.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right? Three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: You know that the terrible story about the eight Anaheim

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Speaker 3: eight Anaheim High School students who were hit by a car.

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Speaker 2: It turns out the driver was duy guy still driving.

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Speaker 3: It turns out that California has a tremendous number of

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Speaker 3: DUI accidents by people who've already been convicted. But we've

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Speaker 3: got some of the weakest laws in the country. Isn't

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Speaker 3: that weird considering what a wacky nanny state we've got

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Speaker 3: in so many ways, But when it comes to DUI,

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Speaker 3: the laws are relatively light and not particularly enforced and

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Speaker 3: followed up. I found that really strange for all the

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Speaker 3: stupid things that they obsess on. Maybe it's gouse new

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Speaker 3: some likesis tequila. I don't know. We'll do that after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock. All right, we're gonna play a clip here.

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Speaker 3: We just laid out the case in Minnesota, the fraudsters

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Speaker 3: that have stolen a billion dollars in taxpayer money Somali,

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Speaker 3: ring eighty seven people. You've heard about that. Now in

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Speaker 3: Ohio it's pretty bad too. And here is Fox News

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Speaker 3: Digital interviewed Meheck Cook, an Ohio attorney who said that

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Speaker 3: Minnesota is just the tip of the sphere that there's

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Speaker 3: a massive medicaid fraud going on within the Somali community

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Speaker 3: in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Listened to about a minute of the Heck Cook.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of fraud and it's cyclical here.

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Speaker 8: Most of the individuals that have come and talked to me,

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Speaker 8: Peter are terrified, they have said, and I quote I

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Speaker 8: will be stoned to death if I show my face

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Speaker 8: on camera or expose what's happening. I think that Minnesota

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Speaker 8: was just the tip of the sphere, and as you

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Speaker 8: continue to see what's happening across the country, I think

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Speaker 8: logically you should start with a place like Ohio have

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Speaker 8: the second highest Somalian population. I live in Columbus, Ohio,

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Speaker 8: so we have between forty and sixty thousand Somalian residents.

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Speaker 8: We're one of the largest Somali communities in the United States.

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Speaker 2: And many came here legally.

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Speaker 8: There were refugees between the nineteen nineties and two thousands,

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Speaker 8: and many of them are law abiding. I know the

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Speaker 8: Somalian community, great people. Many of them are working hard.

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Speaker 8: The problem today is not the community. It's actually the

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Speaker 8: criminals within the Somalian community that have exploited Ohio's medicaid program.

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Speaker 8: Because we have a system right now, it's one of

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Speaker 8: the easiest in the Midwest to game I was able

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Speaker 8: to envite.

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Speaker 3: I'll stop right there. Let me explain. In Ohio, if

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Speaker 3: you're an individual, you could receive Medicaid payments up to

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Speaker 3: ninety one thousand dollars a year per person for care

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Speaker 3: that you're supposed to be giving to a family member,

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Speaker 3: So I guess there are no family members, and the

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Speaker 3: quote fake caregiver is getting ninety one grand of tax money.

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Speaker 3: And then the doctors who approve these payments get kickbacks themselves.

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Speaker 3: So you fill out a form and say, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: taking care of my dad here, except there is no

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Speaker 3: dad here, and the doctor says, okay, can I have

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Speaker 3: some of the ninety one grand? Yeah, sure, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about it. And the heck cook says they're just rubber

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Speaker 3: stamping a lot of these. The same individual then a

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Speaker 3: week later that is supposed to be bedridden is now

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Speaker 3: all over social media, out dancing at a party or

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Speaker 3: something like that. So she said the symptoms aren't really

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Speaker 3: adding up at the end of the day. And she

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Speaker 3: makes it sound as if there's more in Ohio adjusted

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Speaker 3: for the population. Then there is Minnesota that would be

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Speaker 3: three D. Because we had a report from News Nation

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Speaker 3: last week about Maine and the Somali community there, and

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Speaker 3: Tim Waltz today said, well, you've got fraud and all

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Speaker 3: kinds of communities.

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Speaker 2: Well there shouldn't be, Eddie.

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Speaker 3: You should be able to stop all the fraud and

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Speaker 3: the difference is apparently maybe if it were, if it

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Speaker 3: wasn't so Molly's, you would be stopping the fraud. But

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Speaker 3: you let them get away with it because you're woke,

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Speaker 3: because you don't want to be called racist, and because

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Speaker 3: you want their votes.

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Speaker 2: He is a clown. He might be worse than Newsome,

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Speaker 2: all right?

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, eight high school kids in Anaheim on

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Speaker 3: the running team.

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Speaker 2: They got hit by a.

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Speaker 3: A a guy and this guy has a DUI passed.

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Speaker 3: And it turns out in California, for all their netty

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Speaker 3: state of essiens, drunk drivers aren't one of them. Surprisingly

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Speaker 3: lenient laws and no follow up. We'll tell you about it.

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Speaker 3: Coming up. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt

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