1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Jafit's filling in for Sean today. We got 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: our eyes on a lot of things. So we're about 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: to have a great guest on a former Navy seal, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Mike's Airelli. But first of all, I just got to 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: mention the word of the day's probably got to be collapse. 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: We're keeping an eye on a lot of collapses here. First, 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: we got a building in New York City seems to 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit more stable than we thought initially. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: It might come down at any time. Now there's some 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: people going into the building try to assess it. I 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen to this, but certainly 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: those in New York have got their eyes on this building. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: It's the old Pfiser that has Peiser among others. But 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I you know, will it collapse, will not collapse? A 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of people wondering if that's happening. We're watching the 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: collapse of Graham Platner and his political career. Everybody who 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: jumped on board and said, oh, he's our man, they 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: were totally fine with offering up a Democratic candidate who's got, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, a Nazi symbol on his chest emblazoned in 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: there with a massive tattoo. Now that video has come 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: out with a person alleging that he raped her. Now 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: they're all jumping off the ship, and even Bernie Sanders 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: has said that he can't do that. So we're watching 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: that collapse. We're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell been hospitalized. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: You don't want any you know, you don't want somebody 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: to have to suffer or be in a hospital for 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: nearly a month now, But raising the eyebrow and looking 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: and questioning why when your husband is in such dire 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: straits you would go to China, not just for a 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: quick trip either, is how does it that your spouse 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: decides to go to China for a while. Well, your 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: husband's in husband's in the hospital. That's just weird. So 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: we're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell as well, and 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: then just the general collapse of the Democratic Party as 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: they try to figure out what's going on between how 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: are they going to be socialists? Are they going to 37 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: be you know, communists or that? What did they what 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: are they these days? What did they stand for? What 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: did they actually believe in other than open borders, hire taxes, 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: getting rid of police, getting rid of the tax you know, 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the the cash lists, you know, getting rid of bail, 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: like all these things. They want open borders. It's just 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: unbelievable where today's socialist Democratic Party is. Everything's going to 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: be free. So we're watching the collapse of the Democratic 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: Party certainly as we have known it in the past. 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: But tier to talk about some other threats to the 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: United States of America and some of the good things 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: that are actually going on there as well. Really thrilled 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: to have retired US Navy seal Mike'siarelli. He's a recon marine, 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: he was a scout and sniper, and I want to 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: talk about drones and data centers. So mike's Arelli, thanks 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: so much for joining us today on Seohn Handy Show. 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: Jason always going to be with you. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's great. Let's talk drones first, because I 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: wrote an op ed. It's been a couple of months now, 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: but just saying, hey, this is one of the biggest 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: threats that I think the United States has. How do 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: we deal with drones? The drone threat. We've got more 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: registered drones than we do airplanes by far. I read 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: something that said something like six hundred drones were taken 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: out of the skies people trying to get a shot 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: near or close or at the World Club. We had 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: raging fires in Utah and I think the number is 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: two now. Two people have been arrested for trying to 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: fly their drones where helicopters and aircraft are trying to 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: drop retardant and water on wildfires and putting people's lives 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: in danger. Where do you see the whole drone situation going. 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Because I think it's a major threat and we don't 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: have a national strategy to deal with it. 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: No, and you know this better than anyone else. Usually 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: policy follows the emergency, and we definitely have that on 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: the civilian side, protection to our sovereignty and use of 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: civilian drones. But you know, let me step back here. 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Drones have been around since like post nine to eleven. 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: We remember the predators, the reapers, and then Dji, which 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: is a large Chinese company, really came to market in 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: two thousand and six and it was for hobbyists in 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: the international markets and then it started entering warfare and 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: that's where it gets interesting. They basically packaged up a camera, GPS, 80 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: a control system into a relatively cheap price. 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: And what threatens us on the national security. 82 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: Perspective is right now, and this was from the Defense 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Innovative Unit, reported that for every one hundred drones that 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: China MIxS, the US makes one. And right now DJI 85 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: owns about seventy percent of the global consumer drone market, 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: and they owned ninety percent the US drone market. And 87 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: what we're watching unfold in the Ukraine, you know, the 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: little country that could, that has basically stalled a great 89 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: power into a. 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: War of attrition using drones. 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: There is that component, the national security and defense component, 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: and we are far behind. I mean DJI did for 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: let's say, warfare, what the smartphone did for communication, and 94 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: you know that entire package. And what we're seeing going 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 3: on in the Ukraine is very concerning to the United 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: States and Washington should be paying attention because we've got 97 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: to ramp up our drone production from a national security perspective. 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: But to your point, with the threat that it causes, 99 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: the American populace policy needs to be put in place, and. 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: It creates a whole ecosystem. 101 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: We've got drones in themselves, but now you have an 102 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: anti drone capability that is needed to combat any threats 103 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: to our citizens. 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one hundred percent, I should mention you're the 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: chief talent officer at Overwatch Mission Critical. Overwatch Mission Critical 106 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: might want to look it up because really helping to 107 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: lead the charge here because I think where and this 108 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: is like I served in Congress, this is a problem. 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: And the problem first is you got I don't know 110 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the five hundred and thirty five 111 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: that don't have a clue what drones are, how they work, 112 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: what the technology is, and where it's going. 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: They don't. 114 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't have the talent pool or 115 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: skill set or experience to be able to deal with 116 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: That's why I wish there were more people from the 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: military that were actually serving in the Congress so to 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: let alone put the guardrails on and come up with 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: public policy, because it begs the question of who owns 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: the airspace? And like if you had a drone, whether 121 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, look, realtors use drones, hobbyists use drones, Photographers 122 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: you used drones. And they're fun, right, it's simple, easy 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: and not nefarious in their intent. But if you had 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: somebody who did have nefarious intent or wanted to weaponize them, 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: not just with a camera, but with an explosive. Who 126 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: would you call highway patrol, your local sheriff, You're going 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: to call the state police? Like who's in charge the FAA? 128 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: And at what height do you call the FA? And 129 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Dial one hundred FAA and 130 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: have somebody run over. I mean a lot of us 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: would get out our shotguns just shoot it out of 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the air, but you know, we're trying to be responsible here. 133 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: That would be fun and effective, but I'm not advocating that, 134 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: particularly in places of large populations. But what are people 135 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: to do? Should Where is this going? 136 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: Mike? 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: Well, it shows the asymmetric nature of drone warfare and 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: that it can be easily weaponized against us. These things 139 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: are so modular. I mean again, we're watching it in 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: the Ukraine where they're turning commercial drones into basically one 141 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: way attack drums, which is crip a great power. So 142 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: it's a discussion that needs to be had. It needs 143 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: to be had suoner rather than later, because our adversaries 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: are either one they're going to engage and try to 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: destroy us from within. We've always known that, but they 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: will weaponize roans on small attacks against our civilians or 147 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: soft targets, and that is an immediate threat to our sovereignty, 148 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: but more importantly, an immediate threat to our people. 149 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: And so those discussions need to take place. 150 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: They're just not happening at the pace or with the 151 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: severity that need to be taking place. 152 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the urgency. You mentioned this earlier, Mike, that 153 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: usually we're you know, Congress's reactionary. I'm not saying that 154 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: everything requires legislation, but to have the expertise and catch 155 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: up with China, not only to have the attack drones 156 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: when needed because warfare is changing, but to be able 157 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: to play defense even on our own backyards. I mean, 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I think of airplanes, I think of the firefighting situations. 159 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: I think of the perverts who you know, when I 160 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: was in my backyard, I had this drone dropped down. 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's twenty feet or so off the ground, 162 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: just watching me. And yeah, I got about an acre 163 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: and a half. And who knows what they're doing or 164 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: how often they come by because you generally can't hear 165 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: you're a little bit of whizzing, but sometimes and maybe not. 166 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: And so I think there's a big national imperative, and 167 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: you understand it, but I worry that Congress has no clue. 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: It's a difficult problem to crack because when we don't 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: want to, you know, rescind people's rights. Like you said, 170 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: they are fun. But the example you just used of 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: invasion of privacy, there's got to be regulations or stipulations 172 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: around that. But you know, essentially, look at any event 173 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: like the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation. 174 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: Those are easy. 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Weaponized drone attacks. I mean, those results when you've got 176 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: a crowd of one hundred thousand people, that could be costly, costly, 177 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: and that's a big concern. 178 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: So now with events, do. 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: We need to have an anti drome capability at almost 180 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: to every event where we know we're going to have 181 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: mass crowds. 182 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, very true. Let's transition a little bit. I 183 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about data centers because there's a lot 184 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: of hyperventilating. I think not all data centers are the same, right, 185 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: they're different. But give us your perspective on where we're going. 186 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: The hyperventilating and the concerns that people have, but also 187 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: the good that they can do. 188 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and there is hyperventilation going on, and there 189 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: is a lot of misinformation, and I think, you know, one, 190 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: the industry did a bad job of controlling the narrative 191 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: and working with the municipalities where these data centers are 192 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: being placed. But let's address two of those misconceptions. 193 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: One water. 194 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: You know, I would suggest that the left protest golf 195 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: courses before they start protesting data centers. Golf courses are 196 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: golf courses are traditionally the biggest users of water. We 197 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: use predominantly closed loop systems or zero water design systems 198 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: with these these data centers. You don't cool your engine 199 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: in your car with water, you use a glycol uh diuretic. 200 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: So data centers follow the same model, and that's why 201 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: they've minimized or or gotten the use of water down 202 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: to the lowest extent possible. And then with power, uh, 203 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, the grid is the biggest threat. We have 204 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: an abundance of power that's available, but the grid is 205 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: usually the biggest limitation in that. But to that point, 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: data centers have been building self generation on site left 207 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: of meter, which can actually stabilize the grid and uh, 208 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: you know, contingencies for municipalities. It actually adds value to 209 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 3: those locations. But right now, what we're seeing and what 210 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: we're trying to fight this, even though we're the small guys, 211 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: is that even Republicans are starting to take a step 212 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: back and discuss moratoriums stopping the. 213 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: Data center builds. 214 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: Just like every industrial revolution, you know, things are too hot, 215 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: they're too cold, and we find we find the middle 216 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: that works for both the industry creating jobs and the 217 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: people that live within vicinities of data centers. The biggest 218 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: fear I have right now is that we're going to 219 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: slow an industry while we're in a race for AI 220 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: dominance against China and AI is you know, AI is 221 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: not going to replace everyone's job. It will display some jobs, 222 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: but it will also create a pluth or of jobs. 223 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Just like every industrial revolution, people went through that. So 224 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing fear from the mass public. And 225 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: again it goes back to the narratives and we much 226 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: like the drones that we just discussed, government needs to 227 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: get involved. They need to lead this conversation and find 228 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 3: what the middle ground is for both the citizens of 229 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: the US, those that live in the cinity of data centers, 230 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: and the industry itself, which is critical not only to 231 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: our economic development but also our national security. 232 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Well it is national security because the demand is so high. 233 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: And if somebody is like a purist saying, oh, I 234 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: hate data centers, okay, well let's stop using your phone, 235 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: don't watch television, don't go on Netflix, don't drive a car, 236 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: don't go to your grocery store, don't do anything in life. 237 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: If you're going to be the purest that says I 238 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: hate data centers, then stop consuming data. But you know 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: that would be too simple for them and too principled. 240 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: So there for that. But it also is going to 241 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: create a lot of jobs, and I think that's what 242 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Overwatch Mission Critical is all about. Mike. I could talk 243 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: to you all day about these two topics. I'd be 244 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: remiss though, if I didn't say thank you, thank you, 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: thank you for your service to our country right after 246 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: our Fourth of July for you serving as a Navy seal. 247 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: We're just honored to have you here on the Sean 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: Hannity Show, and thank you for your service to the country. 249 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Stay with us, We'll be right back. Remember one seventy 250 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: three twenty six ninety four, one seventy three twenty six 251 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: will be taking your. 252 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 6: Calls when fake news gives you lies. Hannity supplies the truth. 253 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 7: Sean Hannity is on right now. 254 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Is there any way that he thought this was consensual 255 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: or no, just because. 256 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 8: I don't believe that you can and think that that 257 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 8: scenario is consensual, you have to understand that that wasn't 258 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 8: when somebody is repeatedly, I mean, with somebody in the 259 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 8: middle of it says don't touch me, like, that's obviously 260 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 8: not consensual. 261 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: That is Jessica on the lead with Jake Tapper talking 262 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: on camera about the collapse as we're watching it of 263 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Graham Platner. It's I'm so sorry she had somebody, anybody 264 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: has to go through that sort of attack. She went 265 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: on to call it rape at one point, And this 266 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: is why so many people have just said, you know what, 267 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: this person who got more than seventy five percent of 268 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the vote on the Democratic side of the aisle to 269 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: become the nominee in the Senate main race, this is 270 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: why this person's it's just a matter of time, any moment, 271 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: it's going to drop out. Sad to see, but that's 272 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: that's Jessica's stepping up, doing the hard thing, the difficult thing, 273 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: and calling it, you know, just explaining what happened to 274 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: her and her personally. Stay with us here on Shawn Handy. 275 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Chafitz. You're gonna want to stay here because 276 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: we got Lee Zelden, e p A chief, you know, 277 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: EPA Administrator in the cabinet. We love Lee Zelden. He's 278 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: coming up right after the break. Stay with us. 279 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 7: We'll be right back, solid as a rock. Honest. This 280 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 7: is the Sean Hannity Show. 281 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: And I'm Jason Chief. It's filling in for Sean. 282 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: Now. 283 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Nobody but nobody can spell chiefs. I get that. So 284 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: you can check me out at Jason in the House. 285 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: So all the different social media, you know, Facebook and 286 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: x and Instagram, just go to Jason in the House 287 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: or go to Jason Inthhouse dot com. Jason in the House. 288 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: You should be able to spell that one and you 289 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: can check me out there. But honored and thrilled that 290 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Sean would ask me to sit in in his seat today. 291 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to do so, and also excited to have 292 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: somebody who I met initially when he got elected to Congress. 293 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: His name happens to be Lee Zelden. He's now the 294 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: EPA Administrator and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to be with you, Jason. 296 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Now let's talk lee about your golfing prowess. Before we 297 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: get to the weightiness of, you know, saving the world 298 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: and fixing our government and all that, Let's talk about 299 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: the exceptional golfer that you are, because I recall a 300 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: time when you drove a golf cart and I was 301 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: joining you. Not that I'm a really good golfer, but 302 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you are not only a bad golfer, but you're really 303 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: bad at driving a golf cart. Is that fair? 304 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to keep it interesting for you. I mean, 305 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: we're driving through what seemed to be just another day 306 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: on the golf course, and I thought it would be 307 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: interesting if I navigated that branch on the tree in 308 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: a way where the branch would snap off the tree 309 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: and get lodged right across the passenger seat in the windshield, 310 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: right where you were sitting. 311 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 5: I thought that was a good idea. But here we are. 312 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: Now in national radio with Shawn's massive listenership, and you know, 313 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: they're thinking that maybe I did that on accident. 314 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 5: It was totally on purpose. 315 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: I didn't wake up in the morning thinking I would 316 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: potentially be impaled by a conifer. But it almost happened, yes, 317 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and I have some video to prove it at some point. 318 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: But nevertheless, let's move on. Let's move on. You have 319 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: been out there literally, I mean, I think you've been 320 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: on the job less than a year now, but you've 321 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: been literally, like the movement, the progress that we have 322 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: been making at the EPA has been stunning. And what 323 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: you've been able to accomplish in such a short amount 324 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: of time, I mean the energy that Donald Trump brings 325 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: to the equation you have been matching that. I think 326 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: you've gone all fifty states now, right. 327 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, actually the first nine and a half months as 328 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: EPA administrator, we got to all fifty states. And it's 329 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: important for us to get out of an agency building 330 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: in Washington, DC and actually be with the people and 331 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: hear from them and hear their asks, hear their concerns, 332 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 4: their demands, and it'll apply them, will apply common sense 333 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: to you to make the most of every minute we're 334 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: in the job and not waste an opportunity, and to 335 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: do it at Trump speed, to do it as fast 336 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: as possible much as we possibly can at once. 337 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 5: But yeah, there's no way you could do that. 338 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: Just by sitting in some agency building thinking, you know, 339 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 4: the answers to everything, not meeting with who you're regulating 340 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 4: and hearing those concerns from the American American people. Yeah, 341 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: getting out that was the key, and we got to 342 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: all fifty states and right now we're having this conversation 343 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: and travel in Ohio with Senator Houston today. 344 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: So walk me through this. You know, you came in 345 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: after the Biden administration, which couldn't be more sleepy. What 346 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: did you find upon your arrival? And then the second 347 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: part of that is what's on the top of your 348 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: list of things that you want to accomplish. The Trump 349 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: administration wants to accomplish moving forward. 350 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: So here's the first big radar styre in red light 351 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: that went off right after the November twenty four election. 352 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: Video comes out of a bigeal caught on video talking 353 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic, 354 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: rushing to get billions of dollars out the door because 355 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: they're afraid that once President Trump is sworn in that 356 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: he's going to stop it, which was true. And he 357 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: was also talking about how cool it would be to 358 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 4: get a job at there were sipping NGO, and all 359 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 4: of a sudden, everyone sees this video, like, well, you 360 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: need to go find those gold bars that they're tossing 361 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: off the Titanic and bring them back on the bring 362 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: them back. 363 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: On the boat. 364 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: It turns out, yeah, they were spending more money than 365 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: they knew how to spend. 366 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: It was into the. 367 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: Tens of billions of dollars, over sixty billion dollars obligated 368 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: to spend at the EPA in twenty twenty four, which 369 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: was many multiples higher than the ten billion dollar a 370 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: year annual operating budget. And we found conflicts of interest 371 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: former Obama buying officials, democratic donors, unqualified recipients, reduced agency 372 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 4: oversight and decisions that we made, canceled grants, we closed 373 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: to buy an EPA museum that no one knew about, 374 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: or almost that you know, anyone even visited, real estate consolidation, 375 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 4: staff efficiencies. That list goes on, and we were able 376 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: to save thirty billion dollars in year one. And that 377 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: was the first thing that we're finding was with regards 378 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: to the money, there's a. 379 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 5: Lot that we're working on. 380 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: And the coolest announcement, in my opinion, that we've put 381 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: out on the one year anniversary of President Trump's term 382 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: in office, we released the list of our top five 383 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: hundred environmental accomplishments from that first year. And we want 384 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: to protect the environment. We want to pursue cleaner, safer, healthier. 385 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 5: Land, air, and water. But we also. 386 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: Believe that we could do that without suffocating out of 387 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: existence entire sectors of our economy. That's a big difference 388 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 4: in beliefs from us and who we followed in this 389 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: position before us. So every day we have been working 390 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: on an agenda that delivers the environmental winds and also 391 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: delivers deregulation, more deregulation in one year than entire federal 392 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: governments in the past have done across all federal agencies 393 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: combined of entire presidencies. And what's ahead is that we 394 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: want to continue the work striking that balance, powering the 395 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: great American come back, protecting the environment, but also growing, 396 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 4: helping to grow our economy, and delivering on that Trump 397 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: Mandy while we're at it. 398 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting to me because it's funny 399 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: when I sit with somebody who's maybe not of the 400 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: same sort of political persuasion and perspective that I am, 401 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: but I routinely explain to people how much I'd love 402 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: the land and the water and being outdoors, you know, 403 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: when I want to clear my head and do something 404 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: fun and just stop thinking about all the problems and 405 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: challenges of life in the world. I like doing wildlife photography, 406 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, and living in the Inner Mountain West. It's 407 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: just pawdiful. It's just literally right out in your backyard. 408 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: And so people say, oh, well, that you're a Republican, 409 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: and I said, well, you know, I'm a conservative and 410 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm a conservative. Like, you don't get it, do you that. 411 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: It's like the hunting and fishing community, particularly hunters, sort 412 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: of a light needs to go off with people because 413 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: the hunting communities some of the biggest conservatives out there. 414 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: You want to find good stewards of the land, go 415 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: find a hunter. And the Democrats and oftentimes on the left, 416 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: they'll look over there and say, oh, hunters, they just 417 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: kill things, like no, they want big, healthy herds. They 418 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: understand and recognize how important the environment is, and they 419 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: are the biggest stewards and helpers and biggest advocates for 420 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: healthy forests and healthy water and all of those things. 421 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: But the difference between somebody who's just been in a 422 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: cubicle and maybe lived in the downtown city. I mean, hey, 423 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: that's how you live your life. You live your life. 424 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: They just don't seem to get yet, the West Conservatives, 425 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: and they don't seem to get the idea that some 426 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest stewards and advocates of our public lands 427 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: and whatnot are conservatives. 428 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. 429 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: And leading away with getting the Great American Outdoors Act 430 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: passed by Congress and signed by the President during his 431 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: first term in office. You see it and hear it 432 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: from the hunters and the fishermen, and the hikers and more. 433 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 4: And there's a strong desire that you'll find across this 434 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: country quite frankly, Americans, across ideological spectrum, across political parties, 435 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: there's a desire to conserve our environment. But where it 436 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: gets go sideways is that to try to win an election, 437 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 4: you have people on the left who say that in 438 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 4: order to incredibly defend the environment, you have to sign 439 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: up to like John Kerry or Al Gore, AOC's most 440 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: ridiculous pessimistic view of where you know sea level or 441 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 4: ice cap or or global warming is going to be. 442 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: And if you disagree with them, then you are a 443 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: you know, climate change science denier. And by the way, 444 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: if you agree with them, then you have to sign 445 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: off on tens of billions of dollars going to environmental 446 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: NGOs run by you know. 447 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: Former Obama and Biden officials. You have to sign on to. 448 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: Getting rid of you know, Cole and Guests and and more. 449 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: You have to blindly start talking about offshore wind as 450 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: if that's just going to be you know, the substitute 451 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: for all base load power. Like there's this long list 452 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: of demands, and if you do not blindly follow and 453 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: help implement all that on that list. 454 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 5: Well then you're not an environmentalist. And then and it's 455 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: just gets accepted. 456 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: By the masses who want to help Democrats win an election. 457 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 4: And what gets lost in that is just the truth, 458 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: the facts. And maybe you could say the stubborn reality 459 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 4: for people that might find us, as Al Gore might 460 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: say an inconvenient truth, is that conservatives all across this 461 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: country absolutely love our environment. 462 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: They want a conserv it. 463 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 4: They just don't blindly follow whatever you know, ridiculous predictions 464 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 4: might become that AOC's mouth about how the world's about 465 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: to end. 466 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: Well, yes, and Look, we're talking with Lee Zelton, the 467 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: EPA administrator, former member of Congress, almost governor of New York. 468 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: But you've just been doing a fantastic job there as 469 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: the EPA administrator. But one of the things that I 470 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: think is so fascinating about this is that the Democrats 471 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: will take a position and they will say we care more, 472 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: and we care more about the little guy and the 473 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: working men and women, but they have no problem making 474 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: their life, turning it upside down, whether it be light 475 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: bulbs or the one my wife gets just infuriated about 476 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: the laundry machines. You know that you only fill up 477 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: like a third of the way with water and make 478 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: supposedly that's in the name of efficiency, which it really 479 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: isn't and making things so expensive. I mean, remember when 480 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: they wanted I think you and I are in Congress together, 481 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: when they wanted to, you know, make sure that get 482 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: you're rid of anything that was gas powered, and get 483 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: rid of all these other things that were actually you know, 484 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: advancements and being able to live life and keep the 485 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: cost down. Because they had no problem pushing everybody to 486 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: the other end and making life so expensive, particularly for 487 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: lower income people. And yet the Democrats still held the 488 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: mantle and said, oh, we care about the little guy, 489 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: And yet it was the little guy that they were hurting. 490 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 5: I'm from the York, Shawn's from the York. 491 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: And they've actually been implementing this, banning gas hookups on 492 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: new construction, not allowing the extraction of natural gas, noting 493 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: important line projects to get built, setting climate change goals 494 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: that are unachievable but they'll cause extreme economic pain, and 495 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: trying to meet those goals. They're trying to build, you know, 496 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: an offshore wind in order to be able to get 497 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: rid of all sorts of important base load power they closed, 498 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: they needed point nuclear facility. The list goes on there 499 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: like this isn't some hypothetical, this isn't some scare tactic. 500 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: We're like, you know, this is what they're threatening to 501 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 4: do in the future, Like this is what they've actually 502 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: been doing over the last decade. 503 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: And it all adds up. 504 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: It's just each one of those decisions multiply the problems. 505 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they come out and say, oh, it's 506 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Trump's fault. That it was not Donald Trump's fault. It 507 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: was your democratic policies that were put into place that 508 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: made life so expensive. There's a consequence when you shut 509 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: down a nuclear power plant, New York City's going to 510 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: pay higher rates. Then you have the mayor of New 511 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: York City going out there saying, oh, keep your temperature 512 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: at seventy eight degrees or whatever it is he was saying. 513 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: And we all know that Taylor Swift wasn't going to 514 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: do that. The Mayor's office wasn't going to do that. 515 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: But oh, all of you little people, you go out 516 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: and keep it at seventy eight degrees. It's such a load. 517 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: And target targeting areas in the Bronx, you know. And 518 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: this is a reality with you know, when you implement 519 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: all these bad ideas at once, the future is rolling 520 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: brownouts and blackouts. This is what happens in places in 521 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: other countries. It's coming to an American city near you. 522 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: If you allow the wrong people to be in charge 523 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 4: who think that this is all a good idea, Like 524 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: in New York where they now run the city, They 525 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: run this state up in Aubany, and they want to 526 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: deliver this like so you know, as New York fall, 527 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: so falls the country, they want to bring this agenda everywhere. 528 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 5: And you know, I think that looks like a pre 529 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 5: darn bad idea. 530 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Lee Zeldon, EP Administrator, thank you for taking time part 531 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: of your day, and thank you for your service. Most 532 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: people don't know this about but Lee, but he served 533 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: in the United States military as well away from his 534 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: family servant overseas. So after this fourth of July, thank 535 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: you for your service as well. And thanks for your 536 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: service you're giving right now in our country. I'm Jason 537 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Javit's villing in for Sean our number one, seventy three, 538 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty six, seventy three, twenty six. We'll be right back. 539 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 540 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 7: Are you sick of fake news? 541 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 6: Well we've got you Coveredkennedy Watch is here and has 542 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 6: the news you need. 543 00:31:50,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: John Hennedy bumb just bummed that the United States is 544 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: out of the World Cup contention. They thought they played 545 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: actually a pretty good tournament. The country is on fire. 546 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has actually put some really good things into place, 547 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and the security and the protocol and whatnot. It's actually 548 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: going really well. Today's game Argentina three to two over Egypt, 549 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: scoring three goals in thirteen minutes, including Lionel Messi absolutely stunningly. 550 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: There's a long ways to go. I hope the world understands. 551 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Hope Americans understand how big this sport is. The entire 552 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: country shut down watching their teams Switzerland and Columbia later today. 553 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge fan of the World Cup. I'm 554 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Jason Schaefd's felling in for Shawn with US. Mike Howell's 555 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: coming up next. We're gonna talk immigration. Stay with him, 556 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: m 557 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: M.