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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Dog and Zecharia Sitchen's book Twelfth Planet. Not only

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Speaker 1: does he, as you mentioned, talk about Planet X, but

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Speaker 1: he talks about the fact that it's inhabited by a

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Speaker 1: race called the Anunnaki. What are your thoughts about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually leaning more and more towards the idea that

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Speaker 1: there was a kind of a star Wars type of

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Speaker 1: conflict in space and ancient times. There's a question whether

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Speaker 1: or another extra tracts to the biological entities or spirits

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Speaker 1: who have created bodies for themselves when habit while living

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Speaker 1: in the material world. It's really a question of worldview.

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Speaker 1: You have ancient aliens, which I proposes, the ancient astronaut theory,

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Speaker 1: which is possible. I myself, as a Christian, believe more

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Speaker 1: in the idea of spirits creating bodies for themselves so

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Speaker 1: they can interact with the material world. But in either case,

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Speaker 1: there was a schism and a civil war between two factions,

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Speaker 1: one which was greater and one which is lesser, which

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Speaker 1: is described the Bible is kind of the war in

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Speaker 1: heaven and specifically in Revelation twelve. Are the leader of

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Speaker 1: this rebellion, who was named Satan or the Dragon, was

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Speaker 1: thrown down from Heaven to Earth, and all of his forces,

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Speaker 1: those angels who rebelled against the High God, who were

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Speaker 1: thrown down with him. It doesn't really say where this

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Speaker 1: happened or where where he fell from, but it is

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Speaker 1: entirely possible that there they had the battle which for

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Speaker 1: the control of the planet X and Satan his forces lost,

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Speaker 1: and they ended up being thrown down to Earth, whether

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Speaker 1: remain to this day. It is exciting though. The possibilities

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Speaker 1: are just amazing, aren't they. It really we really could

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Speaker 1: be dealing with a Star Wars type scenario. It's really

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Speaker 1: quite breathtaking the potential of what these discoveries are bringing us.

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Speaker 1: Do tell us about your work with giants. Well back

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Speaker 1: about two thousand and three, when I was still publishing

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Speaker 1: Mysterious World Serious World dot com, I was I was

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Speaker 1: actually inspired by Steve Quayle and his writing Giants. I

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Speaker 1: was looking for ideas for articles for my Serious World,

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Speaker 1: and so I ended up writing a series of articles

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Speaker 1: about the giants, based partly in his work and that

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Speaker 1: of some other things, and my own study of the

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Speaker 1: giants and the fallen angels which were interlinked in the

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Speaker 1: Old Testament, specifically in Genesis six, but in other places too.

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Speaker 1: I'd actually had a master's degree an Old Testament fivel studies,

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Speaker 1: and had studied much of what's called the Pentateuch, which

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Speaker 1: by Moses. And they were kind of a cohesi as

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Speaker 1: you unit. And he talked a lot about the battle

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Speaker 1: with the giants and this thing called the iniquity of

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Speaker 1: the amy rights, and now fallen angels were apparently coming

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Speaker 1: down intermarrying with women and creating these giants. And so

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Speaker 1: this was not only interesting personally, it was actually part

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Speaker 1: of my faith journey. How is this possible? What does

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Speaker 1: this mean? And so I determined that most likely what

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Speaker 1: it was is these rebel angels we were talking about

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Speaker 1: previously had come down to Earth and intermarried with the

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Speaker 1: giants in an attempt to biologically genetically enhanced humans in

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Speaker 1: an attempt to retake Heaven whatever, whether that has planet

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Speaker 1: so the theories is that and this is part of

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Speaker 1: my book on giants, as you know, not only what

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Speaker 1: were the giants, but why did they exist? What was

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Speaker 1: the purpose of them? And part of the reason the

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Speaker 1: So I'm exploring that idea in the book. So it

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because the giants were given

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Speaker 1: they were actually given a knowledge and knowledge of what

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Speaker 1: we are understanding the arts and sciences and technology. They

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Speaker 1: technology that enables us will eventually allow Satan to control us.

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Speaker 1: That's the real danger thee The advantage of technology can

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Speaker 1: been a struggle between a technological approach and the reliance

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Speaker 1: It was the classic clash of can can enable and

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Speaker 1: And so that was the beginning of the schism between

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Speaker 1: You have the line of Kane talked about in Genesis four,

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Speaker 1: to Abraham, and there was a constant struggle between the

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Speaker 1: two all the way up to the flood, where the

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Speaker 1: giants who are descendant of Kane actually defeated the descendants

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Speaker 1: I interviewed the pilot years ago. It's a strange, strange story.

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Speaker 1: But does that tell us then where the giants went?

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Speaker 1: They were just all obliterated in a flood. That's the story.

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Speaker 1: We were told that some other stories escape or some

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Speaker 1: That's basically what the giants were. They not only did

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Speaker 1: they not want I gave up, They could not give up.

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Speaker 1: They were designed to be obsessed or compulsive attack. Psychopaths

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Speaker 1: because they were designed to destroy everything around them except

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Speaker 1: for themselves, and ultimately, in their psychosis they destroying themselves too. Now,

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Speaker 1: Riddle of the Sphinx. You did that in two thousand

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Speaker 1: Riddle of the Sphinx is a very interesting little story.

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Speaker 1: It's actually comes from the play Ahead of His Wrecks,

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Speaker 1: and the story um the hero Oedipus is returning to

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Speaker 1: our riddle, otherwise I will devour you. And the riddle was,

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Speaker 1: answer is? Me? No, I do not, Okay, the answer

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Speaker 1: And so that that boy thought was interesting. But what

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking about couches a lion, they're talking

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Speaker 1: And the end times is that he will go to

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Speaker 1: they just haven't told us what's in there yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then they know the chambers are there, but they have

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Speaker 1: There's a very powerful technology from the word before the Blood,

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Speaker 1: knowledge from the world before the flood. And what about

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Speaker 1: renderings for the Great Pyramids? Do you think that could

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Speaker 1: Dug One of the theories I had about the Sphinx

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Speaker 1: seven heads and ten horns. And when I was looking

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Speaker 1: was exactly ten pyramids and the gas An Acropolis which

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Speaker 1: last online or this maybe number six, number seven might

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Speaker 1: be the anti Christ, or maybe number eight. It's not clear,

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Speaker 1: Red dragon, and there's other reasons for that, is that

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Speaker 1: And so we actually have a number of different coincidences

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Speaker 1: which I've always felt was important to the end times intuitively,

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Speaker 1: I realized it might be this might be Revelation central

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Speaker 1: in terms of activities in the end times, including some

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Speaker 1: whatever is down there might have been used before. I

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Speaker 1: the geese of the acropolis. Wow, that's kind of scary,

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Speaker 1: isn't it well, it's apocalyptic. I mean, if the people

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Speaker 1: I think it is, it literally would be invincible. Listen

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