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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, Sean Peyton's official fan club

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Speaker 1: from Sky Sports headquarters in London, England. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan Hansis, and I am in.

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Speaker 2: A conference room filled with some heroes, Greg Rosehal Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: There are.

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Speaker 2: No more undefeated teams in the in the National Football

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Speaker 2: League and Mark Sessler the reason both the undefeated teams

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Speaker 2: no longer are undefeated is because of the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: and the New York Jets. What world do we live in?

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Speaker 3: This season needed this? I really feel like it did.

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Speaker 3: And it's not because I have roots as a Browns fan,

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Speaker 3: and it's not because of your Jets fandom. It doesn't hurt,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 2: I mean also the roots are also full grown tree

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Speaker 2: that you're still all right living today.

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Speaker 3: I sat under the shade of that beautiful tree and

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Speaker 3: felt something in Pa Walker made me feel something we'll

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Speaker 3: get we'll get into it. But this is the unlikely,

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Speaker 3: unpredictable nature of this league. And it's like we're still

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Speaker 3: learning about these teams. And I would say even more

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Speaker 3: from the Jets angle, there is just this renewed sense

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Speaker 3: of possibility.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: I think it's from every angle. I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 5: say what it is. This is one of the most

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Speaker 5: memorable days in the history of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 5: It's almost one am. We're at Sky Sports Studios. Our

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Speaker 5: day started over at the Hot Toddy more than twelve

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Speaker 5: hours ago, well more than that, and your teams just

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Speaker 5: took out the two best teams in the NFL who

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Speaker 5: hadn't had a loss today, and we got professional footballers

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Speaker 5: yelling on us from the stands inside jokes from this that.

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Speaker 5: So it's all happened.

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Speaker 2: We were walking and again and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: the game, the Titans Ravens game that we were in attendance,

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Speaker 2: and we did a lot of great stuff on the field,

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Speaker 2: so many great interactions and fun interactions with listeners of

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Speaker 2: this show. It's almost overwhelming, quite frankly and really cool.

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Speaker 2: But one of those interactions and one of those shout

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Speaker 2: outs when we were down at the field came from

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Speaker 2: Rob Holding.

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Speaker 3: Crystal Palace is Rob Holding, formerly of Arsenal, And you know,

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Speaker 3: we we're plugged in onto the sports of some degree

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Speaker 3: to not some degree because we Nick Pike from NFL

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Speaker 3: UK when we were when we walked past him, Rob

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Speaker 3: Holding shouted on, hey, heroes, and he's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's like here we are at the Hot Toddy. It's like,

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Speaker 3: it's awesome. Another great British listener and he's like, by

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Speaker 3: the way, Nick said, that is a professional Premier League player.

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Speaker 3: That is Rob Hold. He was like about seven hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifteen thousand followers on Instagram. I just followed him.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if he follows back. My son called, and

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Speaker 3: my son called is a huge soccer fan. So I

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Speaker 3: just immediately texted said like, do you know anything about

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Speaker 3: this guy? And like, I mean he knows everyone, so

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Speaker 3: he's mind is gonna be blown.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is that's who. That's who's now.

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Speaker 2: And it's a day that, yes, that so many crazy

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Speaker 2: things have happened, and the fact that it's one am here.

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Speaker 2: We should be tired, but when those certain outcomes of

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Speaker 2: today's games, uh and the way they do, we are

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Speaker 2: filled with energy and life and we will not be alone.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do the first half of the show today

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Speaker 2: and then for the first time ever, we are going

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Speaker 2: to hand the show off for the back back half

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Speaker 2: of games, including Sunday Night Football Bill's Giants to the

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Speaker 2: great Nick shook and the great Patrick Claybond very capable

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna go through what seven or

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Speaker 1: eight games go? All right, So let's do that. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's no reason to delay any further. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into how these undefeated teams were knocked off. And yes,

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Speaker 1: let's start at an electric metal lands where we go in.

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Speaker 6: Motion goes a Kios shotguns set for tailor, hurts pinwell

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Speaker 6: to is left, play clock at three takes this half,

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Speaker 7: The middle of the field and as broke it up

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Speaker 8: The Jets are gonna win it.

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Speaker 6: The Jet defense needed to come up big.

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Speaker 9: One last time and turn up thing they did.

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Speaker 10: What a day for the Jet defense.

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Speaker 2: What a day indeed, Oh the leak set in London,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what a day for Robert Sala's defense,

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Speaker 2: which after giving up fourteen points in the first half,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles in the second half of this game and

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen Jets three and three at the by Eagles

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Speaker 2: fall to five and one.

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Speaker 5: It is a season changing win because Dan and I

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Speaker 5: we were having this conversation during the game as they

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Speaker 5: which is a step forward. And maybe they could survive.

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Speaker 5: And if only they had the schedule that they had

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, I think this team actually could

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Speaker 5: maybe win nine to ten games. But this schedule's been

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Speaker 5: a win for the second time against one of the

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Speaker 5: I don't suddenly think Zach Wilson's gonna change, But I

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Speaker 5: don't think this defense is gonna change either. I think

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Speaker 5: And I just think they have something building in terms

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Speaker 5: At two and four, I don't know if I would

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Speaker 5: have felt that, But at three and three, with a

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Speaker 5: and everything that happened there, I think that's all you

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Speaker 3: They refuse to go away. I mean, if there was

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Speaker 3: widely considered like a top two team in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: You nearly beat the Chiefs and you should have that

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Speaker 3: and you think maybe the Jets are just absolutely snake bit.

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Speaker 3: You've just beaten the Eagles. If you knew before the

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is guiding this team. Instead, it's like it's

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Speaker 3: But this is a great coaching job by Robert Sola,

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Speaker 1: Here's here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Wilson has been better the last three weeks than

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Speaker 2: he was previously, but Wilson did not make throws in

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Speaker 2: many situations. He took a lot, he took sacks in

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Speaker 2: this game. He didn't turn the ball over. But they

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Speaker 2: really had no business winning this game because the defense

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Speaker 2: continued to get stop after stop and give Zach Wilson

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Speaker 2: they couldn't do anything. And that's why if you're an

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Speaker 2: what I thought was the worst loss of the year,

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Speaker 2: which was the Ravens blowing that game against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's at that level, but

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Speaker 1: it's not far off. For the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are going to watch this film and be

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Speaker 2: after all the frustrations of the game, there is no

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Speaker 2: the field to win this game. All Jalen Hurts has

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Speaker 2: He throws the interception. Who had the pick the interception

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Speaker 2: they were going to get a touchdown there. And then

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Speaker 2: there was a big decision to be made by Robert

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Speaker 2: And it was thought at the time that that was

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Speaker 1: And yet and yet.

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Speaker 2: The Jets defense stood tall one more time. So even

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Speaker 5: You know, the Eagles had a ton of injuries. We'll

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Speaker 5: But ultimately there's more on defense and offense, and they

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Speaker 5: they faced are impressive. We got Robert Salah given us

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Speaker 5: some good calls.

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Speaker 1: Bob.

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Speaker 12: You know, through these first six weeks, we've played a

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Speaker 12: gold little quarterbacks and I know we haven't gotten all wins,

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Speaker 2: It's not wrong, you know what I think, after what

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Speaker 2: Sala has been through and this team and this fan

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Speaker 2: base has been through, it's okay to pop out your

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Speaker 2: I need to give him credit for and little Mia

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Speaker 2: Kulpa is this defense which he leads he's a defensive

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Speaker 2: one thing that defense that was rated very well last

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Speaker 2: huge because this offense and we could say he's a

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Speaker 2: Drew Lock type figure at this point, Zach Wilson. They're

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Speaker 1: And they did both of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, and to go four and out on the ensuing possession,

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Speaker 1: And this is very rarely happened.

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Speaker 2: I've really thought this, but that the Jets fans have

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 1: Mark, do you want to talk about the Browns?

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Speaker 3: I would like to.

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Speaker 1: Let's suck with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Oh on a Sunday show between the Hashers.

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Speaker 7: Forty one yard baby for Jake Moody, which Shnowski kneels

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Speaker 5: Snap is down, the kick is up, the kick.

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Speaker 7: Is good, It's no good, and the Brows will beat

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Speaker 1: He pushed it wide to the right. Oh, we know

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Speaker 2: Bring on the bongo, come, come.

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Speaker 1: Come Cleveland defense. Schwartz, Schwartz, Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the rookie kicker of the forty nine ers. Jake

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventeen in the win, and that was of course

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Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano with the call our friend, friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: course for the great Jim Donovan, Jim Donovan and doing

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Speaker 2: Siciliano's voice because we know Andrew he's born and brah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've talked with Andrew so many mornings in

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Speaker 3: and I honestly to hear him, to hear his voice

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Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback today?

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Speaker 3: It's PJ. Walker. And you know what I said, like

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Speaker 3: He threw a couple of picks in this game. He

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Speaker 5: Mom missus Walker, actually PJ is a perfect creation.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, you know I don't need perfect, but

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Speaker 3: like the Jets at times they're playing around their offense

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Speaker 3: because they're really affected by not having Nick Chubb. Yet

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Speaker 3: they're running backs. Jerome Ford and company stepped up today.

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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper. I love the fact that PJ Walker, who

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Speaker 3: There was no training camp. He comes it off the

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Speaker 3: to make big throws and it just actually, like last year,

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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper is stepping up in a big way. But

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Speaker 1: Can it be?

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Speaker 3: This defense? Is Cleveland gonna do what it did? Know

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Speaker 3: they were in a bad position against Baltimore with what

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Speaker 3: for brock Purty. They gave up two hundred and fifteen yards,

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Speaker 5: I mean, if look if Jake Moody makes that kick.

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Speaker 5: I mean that is outrageous. And this game, to me,

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Speaker 5: Like they legitimately looked like the better team against the

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Speaker 2: Defense, Yeah, even without Nick Chubb, because you look at

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Speaker 5: I mean even you can get day For the AFC North,

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Speaker 2: But like the Bengals, they don't know how to beat

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Speaker 2: But what you're saying is right, Mark, like, this is

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Speaker 1: Continue to give them wins.

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Speaker 3: And it's like I have to give Kevin Stefanski. I

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Speaker 5: of any team I think ever, which is which is

439
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Speaker 5: a pretty crazy stat And the schedule eases up. The

440
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson news coming into the week was he might

441
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Speaker 5: miss multiple more weeks. It's still a very strange situation

442
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 5: that bears at.

443
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Speaker 3: Getting like we're not we have done the right story

444
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: on the shouldern.

445
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Speaker 5: Well, it's very rare to hear a guy is medically

446
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 5: cleared from the coach and then he's out for two

447
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 5: and a half straight week.

448
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: One of one of the parrots that work for Watson,

449
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Speaker 2: essentially in the media, will leak his side of the

450
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Speaker 2: story sooner.

451
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Speaker 5: We've pretty much been getting that, but like you know,

452
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 5: he's feeling I don't. I don't necessarily doubt that. I

453
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 5: just feel like there's there's more going down. Injuries were

454
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 5: a massive part of this story though. For the forty

455
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Speaker 5: nine Ers, the best team in the league coming into today,

456
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Speaker 5: to lose Christian McCaffrey to a hip and an oblique

457
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 5: obliques are a tricky injury, and then Deebo Samuel and

458
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 5: not to survive the game, that is a potentially not

459
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Speaker 5: season changing, but it could be something where it makes

460
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Speaker 5: them struggle a little bit through this middle staff.

461
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Speaker 2: Shanahan he wasn't sure. He was unsure about the extent

462
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: of both and said, we don't know yet. Uh so, yeah,

463
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: it is you know, that Deebo is now going through

464
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Speaker 2: another of what looks to be an injury plague season.

465
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Speaker 2: McCaffrey has really stayed healthy the most part since coming

466
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Speaker 2: to San Francisco. So now we're gonna start getting tested

467
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 2: here as all teams do. And now it's forty nine ers.

468
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Speaker 3: There was another one too, because Trent Williams on a

469
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: play that looked he got rolled up on and it

470
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: looked really ugly and he came back into the game

471
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Speaker 3: and finished it, but left the stadium in a walking

472
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Speaker 3: boot on his right foot. So I mean that's another

473
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Speaker 3: Jenga piece right there.

474
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Speaker 5: Should have never gotten rid of Robbie Gould. You called it, Danny.

475
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Speaker 2: Hey, he got to when you have a kicker you

476
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: can count on and depend on, you keep in the building.

477
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Speaker 2: And I know you could, if you're a Niners fan,

478
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: you could quibble with the with the decision there to

479
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: get very conservative and settle for the forty one yard

480
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: field goal rather than try to get closer. They didn't

481
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Speaker 2: want to risk getting knocked back on some running plays

482
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Speaker 2: that had no chance. And you could say, okay, that

483
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: was Shanahan being a little cute, but you know what,

484
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: your kicker's got to hit a forty one I know,

485
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Speaker 2: but that's like how and I that Greg, that's not

486
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: a forty six yard and that's not a forty eight

487
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Speaker 2: yard like forty one in our lead.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in twenty twenty three should be money in the bank.

489
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Speaker 1: Number one.

490
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Speaker 5: He hasn't looked great since he was drafted. So that's

491
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Speaker 5: on Shanahan a little bit. You gotta know your kicker

492
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Speaker 5: number two, Like I always just feel like coaches hide

493
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Speaker 5: behind that, Like, okay, then it's the kicker's fault. You

494
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Speaker 5: have forty five seconds. You got to time out over

495
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Speaker 5: it like you've got a great offensive team, like, oh,

496
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 5: we don't want to get backed up running ball? Yeah,

497
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 5: you could also score a touchdown. You could also get

498
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Speaker 5: down to the ten yard line, like why why do

499
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Speaker 5: you stop trying with forty five seconds up? I hate

500
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Speaker 5: it when Already Shottenheimer did it as the Jets go,

501
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 5: I heard charge. I hate it when Herm Edwards did it.

502
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 5: It's no better now.

503
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Speaker 3: When Kyle Shanahan looks for all the praise he gets

504
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: and deserves it like there is he's a little more

505
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Speaker 3: conservative than other coaches.

506
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Speaker 5: Just why not just keep playing football? Keep playing for.

507
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Speaker 2: One, don't what did you just say Cleveland has potentially,

508
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: by yardage, the best defense ever threw six weeks.

509
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Speaker 3: You you also mentioned how they have done all day.

510
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Speaker 1: Maybe he was a little smooth, but you know.

511
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Speaker 5: What, Jordan Mason was five for twenty seven. It wasn't

512
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Speaker 5: like he was getting stoned. Come on, make the kick, yeah,

513
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 5: and that's.

514
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Speaker 2: It right And if and if he makes the kick

515
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Speaker 2: as he should as what a second or third round pick,

516
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Speaker 2: then it's a very frustrating day for Cleveland, which outplayed

517
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: this goliath. Uh and yet he misses the kick, and

518
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: you know what, good because Cleveland was the better team

519
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: in this game. Let us move on to Tampa where

520
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: the Lions were looking to say, hey, San Francisco were

521
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Speaker 2: coming up in your rear view.

522
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Speaker 4: Golf out of the gun, there's the shotgun.

523
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Speaker 8: Snap golf back looking looking throwing deep down field.

524
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Speaker 4: Watch Jamison inside the tent, Jamison Jack's the catch shuts

525
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Speaker 4: down to troit lyons s.

526
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Speaker 8: That's what I'm talking about talking about up Dimes had

527
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Speaker 8: to rearrange, turn around, grabbed the football and that's exactly

528
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Speaker 8: what he did with Royan Neil Drake doll over him.

529
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Speaker 1: And that's why nine oh my god's.

530
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Speaker 3: What's your capewn man changing the game?

531
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Speaker 1: Remember last year when.

532
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Speaker 2: Paul Allen Vikings Radio was getting all those great calls

533
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Speaker 2: and it was going viral a little bit, and everybody

534
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: loved Paul all and we had him on the show,

535
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: and that it's Dan Miller's here. Dan Miller is gonna

536
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Speaker 2: continue to make these really fun calls, and I think

537
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to have him on the show.

538
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Speaker 1: Lions Radio.

539
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff through two touchdown passes and the Detroit Lions

540
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Speaker 2: take care of business mostly on the back of their

541
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Speaker 2: defense in the twenty to six win over Baker Mayfield

542
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: and the Bucks on the road. The Lions are now

543
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: five and one greg, including three and zero on the road.

544
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Speaker 2: And these are the type of wins like I like

545
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Speaker 2: to see when I'm trying to discern who were like

546
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Speaker 2: the big boys in the league, kind of going on

547
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: the road and not even playing your best game. But

548
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: one side of the ball says, all right, we're gonna

549
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: take care of business. And today in this game, it

550
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: was Detroit's defense.

551
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Speaker 5: Right. I'm a little sick of saying like, oh, are

552
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 5: they the third team? Are they the fourth? They're one

553
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Speaker 5: of the best teams in the NFL. They have been.

554
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: I didn't need to see this game to see it.

555
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: They were third in DVA going into this week. They

556
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Speaker 5: are five and one. They have won their last four

557
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 5: games by a combined sixty points. All four of those

558
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Speaker 5: wins have been by at least two touchdowns. They beat

559
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Speaker 5: the defending champions on Opening Night. They've just beat a

560
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 5: three to one Bucks team on the road. They're in

561
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Speaker 5: the top five in DVOA going into this week, not

562
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Speaker 5: even with this game. In offense and defense, they're a

563
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Speaker 5: complete team with a great coaching staff. They have good

564
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Speaker 5: line play, They've got it all, and they play like

565
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: their hairs on fire and they don't make excuses. They've

566
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Speaker 5: been as injured as any team in the league. So

567
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Speaker 5: it's just six weeks. And if you're telling me, like,

568
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Speaker 5: do I think they're the NFC favorite, No, because of

569
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Speaker 5: how good the forty nine Ers and Eagles rosters are

570
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: so No, But like it doesn't matter. The point is,

571
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 5: like it doesn't matter what I think, and they are

572
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Speaker 5: one of the best teams in the NFL. They're on

573
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Speaker 5: a relatively short list of realistic teams that can win

574
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl this year. Maybe that's a seventeam list,

575
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 5: but they are absolutely on it, and they are playing

576
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: right now as well as that, I.

577
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Think, well, Greg, like I didn't need to see this

578
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: game go their way to feel like I believe in

579
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: the Lions. But I'm saying we're now getting to the

580
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: point where six games is a pretty good sample size.

581
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: And you can go sixteen. They're thirteen and three in

582
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: their last six games, so.

583
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Speaker 2: Like now we have a six game sample size of

584
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: many of these teams, and the Lions mark have really

585
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: now showed themselves to be well coached, a team with chemistry,

586
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: a team that blocks very well, that has a quarterback

587
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: that can shred when given time, and a defense that

588
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: has from where they were a year ago this time

589
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: to where they are now. That is the big difference here,

590
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: that they now can win games with the defense, when

591
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: at this time last year they were losing games.

592
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense was a total liability a year ago.

593
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: And if you go into Lions games in general and say,

594
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: after they've been so dominant on the ground, you have

595
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: a game where they in for forty yards, you lose.

596
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: David Montgomery Gibbs is not there like they're they're they

597
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: could be exposed, they find out the ways to win.

598
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: Aman Ross Saint Brown goes off Williams finally, and he's

599
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: sort of like, if you're gonna do anything, he's gonna

600
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: have a big play. That's sort of what he does.

601
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Speaker 5: Five career catches. Two of those catches are forty yard touchdowns.

602
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Speaker 3: And as you said, if that can if that continues

603
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: on Sky Sports, you said, he's just simply gonna be

604
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: shoved into canton. I mean, that's it's obviously, you know,

605
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: tongue in cheek, but they what they can do with it,

606
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: what they can do. It was Greg was delighted, Boom boom.

607
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: He was delightful. But uh, I like, I think a

608
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: team they kind of fall into this category for me

609
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: of teams that just like the personality kind of drives

610
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: them too. And I'm not comparing them to this team,

611
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: but like the eighty five Bears were like personality heavy

612
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: and like didn't give an f about what anyone else thought,

613
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: Like some of those, like the two thousand Ravens feel

614
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: like that way to me. I could think of this

615
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: the early Pete Carroll legion of boom teams, where it's

616
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: like it's us against the world. And it's like Dan

617
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: Campbell's kind of imbued with him and sometimes those you

618
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: can try to do that and we can all see

619
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: that it's not true, it's phony, it's not real. It

620
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: is completely real with them. And in this game, it's

621
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Speaker 3: another example where they were kind of going I wouldn't

622
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: say neck and neck, but the Buccaneers were hanging around

623
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Speaker 3: and the Lions game. It wasn't a great game, but

624
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: they were working to but then they just they gained

625
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: power as the game goes on. And I know last

626
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: year I was slow to the draw with the Lions.

627
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: The way that they play right now is like the

628
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: kind of way I'd want to draw up a football team,

629
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Speaker 3: and how they do his people down the stretch.

630
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Speaker 2: And this is why, you know, Hard Knocks has always

631
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: been one of my favorite programs because you start to

632
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: learn about the personality of the team from watching him.

633
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: And that goes way back to last summer now, and

634
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: I can tell you from watching that show and following

635
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: this team closely now for a year and almost a

636
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: year and a half since that that block that Craig

637
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: Reynolds used on Carlton Davis sending him into the next hemisphere,

638
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: that sprung him on Saint Brown on that big touchdown

639
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: that kind of put the lines in the driver's seat.

640
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Speaker 1: That's what Dan.

641
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Kempbell is going to be losing his mind over, he says,

642
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: is biting people didn't know that men, and it was

643
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: easy to kind of, oh, this guy's a little he's

644
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: like a caveman. He's not up, he's not suited for

645
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: this job. But that's what he was referring to. This

646
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: team that will do anything for each other, even though

647
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: if you don't show up in the stat box, you're

648
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: gonna take out the other team and punish. And that's

649
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: exactly what they did. That play is so emblematic of

650
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions football.

651
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 5: Now it could be a big moment in Jamison Williams season.

652
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: They kind of need that. You mentioned how they didn't

653
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Speaker 5: have the running game today, so they really put it

654
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Speaker 5: on Jared Goff's shoulders, and he was just on the money.

655
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Speaker 5: This is the best season of his career to this point,

656
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: similar to his first half of the season in what

657
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: was that twenty eighteen when he was on fire for

658
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: the Rams, but more controlled because they were having these

659
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: long drives where he was just completely on points. So

660
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 5: even though they only put up twenty points, like the

661
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: offense dominated the ball because they just didn't give it

662
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: up in the second half. They've been so resilient though

663
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 5: they'll have their at some point, they'll hit a dip

664
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: in the season. But the way they've withstood injuries and

665
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 5: a lot of the players are coming back, some of

666
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 5: them aren't, and they had more go out even today.

667
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: The way they've been missing six to seven starters all

668
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: year and they're this good, that tells me, like I

669
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: expect them to be there at the end.

670
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: And on the on the buck side of things. And

671
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: first of all, I know some people like them or whatever.

672
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: I think you like them, Mark, but like who the

673
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers need to lose the creamsicle uniforms because

674
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: it is a loser's mentality. When you put that uniform

675
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: on with that color and the old buccaneer guy on

676
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: the side, all I think of is the pre Tony

677
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Dungee like nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety six Bucks

678
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: that were impossible to watch. I think it goes into

679
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: their bloodstream and they become unwatchable.

680
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: So lose them.

681
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: Hold on, go back to the flag, all right, What

682
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: well all i'd say, I mean just from a set

683
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: like and we were in the sky studio, like Hannah

684
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: Wilkes agreed with you. I think one thing is like

685
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 3: on television.

686
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Hannah Wilkes agree with me that it's a win.

687
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: Okay, But they have there, Hannah Wilt in a big spot.

688
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: They create terrible match uniform combinations with other teams. That's

689
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: what I don't like about it. In their heart it's

690
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: hard to read, like their names on the back. But

691
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't think players that were born in like nineteen

692
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: ninety two or nineteen ninety five, like give the old

693
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: uniforms and then they'll.

694
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: Set to drop them, so you gotta drop them.

695
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: My other point is I will I will relinquish this argument.

696
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't the Bucks to get rid of my other

697
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Bucks point.

698
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: And if you guys have another one thrown in, then

699
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break and continue on.

700
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: But I said it on Thursday.

701
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: I have dense messaging about their defensive line after your year.

702
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Devin Tompkins's first rushing attempt for five yards, you

703
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: gotta get more.

704
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has had a nice start to the season.

705
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I saw this these three games is a big like

706
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: is it is it real or not? Detroit, Atlanta, Buffalo

707
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: the next three today, in the next three weeks. He

708
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: was not effective in this game. He kind of looked

709
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: like old Baker. We'll see what he does against the

710
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Falcons next week. But this against the big time defense,

711
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: I thought he looked flat and was missing throws.

712
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: As well.

713
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he at the end of the game

714
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: is his non throwing arms. It was hanging off his

715
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: his body and like he took a shot either to

716
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: the head or the shoulder. We'll find out what but

717
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: we made. There's a chance Baker Mayfield is out of

718
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: our lives for a little bit.

719
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: We'll see. Bucco Bruce is the name a winking pirate

720
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: with a dagger clenched between his feet.

721
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 5: First of all, like, send him into the Tampa Bay

722
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: he's gone to.

723
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you lose him. You got He's a loser.

724
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: There were no pirates named Bruce, so there's a disconnect

725
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: to begin with.

726
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Bruce is a loser.

727
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: Put him in one of those cannons.

728
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Get him out.

729
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: I don't think the name Bruce even existed when during

730
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: pirate times. I know there's still pirates out on the

731
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: season part of our world. I get that it's not

732
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: over again. I saw the Tom Hanks film.

733
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: What was it? I am the Captain?

734
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: Now?

735
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: Was that? What it was?

736
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: Now?

737
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm the captain and you're a centophile? What was it?

738
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm the captain now?

739
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll talk

740
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: London and more. I'm the captain now, all right? We

741
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: are back and now, yes, we are here in London.

742
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: It's been another great week for around the NFL Beautiful

743
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: Live show on Thursday. Everybody here has been so nice

744
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: to us.

745
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: But the reason we were here was to cover and

746
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: watch and enjoy a football game to the hot toddy

747
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium.

748
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: Ravens Titans on second and seven from the Tennessee ten

749
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Lamar off the play thing, drifting to his left under pressure,

750
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: extending the play throws complete.

751
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: Say Flowers touchdown Ravens.

752
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 13: Lamar extended and Zay Flowers delivered first.

753
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: NFL touchdown for Zay Flowers.

754
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: Congratulations, young man.

755
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Calm down, Rod Woodson Jerry Sandusky.

756
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: With a call, speaking of first, that was the first

757
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: time the Jets ever beat the Eagles, like ever, that's

758
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: pretty wild.

759
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Like ever ever?

760
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: Ever?

761
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: All right back to give the hot Toddy Yes Lamar

762
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Jackson and the Ravens offense could not get at a

763
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: second gear for most.

764
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Of this game, at least in the red zone.

765
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: But the one time they did it was Jackson to

766
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: Za Flowers his first touchdown in the NFL, first of many.

767
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: He's a good player.

768
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: And the Ravens also leaned on the leg of the

769
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: great Justin Tucker who came to the land of soccer

770
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: and went six of six, almost all of them chippies,

771
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: and the Ravens take care of the Titans twenty four

772
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: to sixteen. So the Ravens after the horrific loss against Pittsburgh,

773
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: they get to four and two and the Titans are

774
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: searching for it at two and for mark this game

775
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: on the tip. Let's start with the Ravens side of it,

776
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: and then we could do a little bit of talk

777
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: about what it was like at.

778
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 4: The game.

779
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Dominated the most part by the Ravens.

780
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: Let's see what the I'm sure the total yardage was

781
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: absurd three hundred and sixty total yards of the Ravens,

782
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: which is mah two thirty three for the Titans. And

783
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: they put a little bit of lipstick on the pig

784
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: late and other than a third period swinging momentum for

785
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee where they scored ten points. This was the Ravens

786
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: game all the way, and they took care of business

787
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: in the end.

788
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the first four drives were field goal,

789
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: field goal, field goal, touchdown. They handled their business. I

790
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: think Lamar Jackson continues to have a really interesting season.

791
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: And I think it's, you know, like it goes kind

792
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: of unnoticed or untalked about a little bit that he's

793
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: in year one of a new offense, and when Matthew

794
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: Stafford came to the Rams, it was around like week

795
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: ten or eleven or twelve when they worked their way

796
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: through some problems and he started to heat up and

797
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: be the best he could be. And it's I think

798
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's handled this challenge really well. I'm not sure

799
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: that's been true of the inconsistencies in the drops and

800
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: the other stuff around what I do. I think it's

801
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: hopeful that that catacholysmic Steelers loss, which included so many

802
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: gaffs and drops and like, just come on, guys, you

803
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: could have won that game. You should have won it,

804
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: as Greg said, like thirty something to something and the

805
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: drops dried up today. Zay Flowers played a good game

806
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: that said, I come out of it. I mean, you

807
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: played in an EPT offense. We'll get to that. The

808
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: Titans sort of just handed. The Titans could do nothing.

809
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: They were an I sort of the point where I'm like,

810
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: I think they need to be giving more to this,

811
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: this London crowd. So they really really like made it

812
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: easy for Baltimore to kind of chip away, chip away.

813
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: Six field goals for Justin Tucker, a career high. You know,

814
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: I guess I come out of it same four and

815
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: two Ravens, good job. I have questions. I don't I

816
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 3: don't I know Greg how you feel about the Ravens.

817
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: I can't shove them into that group of Super Bowl

818
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: contenders right now because I simply don't feel like I

819
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: can trust them right now.

820
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: I would put them there, certainly, not if they're playing

821
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: like this, but I just think they are though. I know,

822
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: but how you play in the middle of October is,

823
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: to me is not really a great what we've.

824
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: Seen through six games, you're projecting.

825
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: That, right, and based on that, I think they will

826
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: right so far. But based on that, I think they

827
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: have a lot of baseline attributes that can win the

828
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Number one, Their defense has been fantastic. I mean,

829
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 5: you just have to win the game one certain way

830
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: one week, and you can win it a different way

831
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 5: the next week. This week it was destroying the Tennessee Titans.

832
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: Anytime they dropped back to pass, they went. They dropped

833
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: back to pass twenty seven times. They ended up with

834
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 5: one hundred and four yards and and that was mostly

835
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 5: Tajy Spears breaking a little, you know, swing pass from

836
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 5: Malik Willis lay in the game for forty eight yards.

837
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: Otherwise they're getting two to three yards for drop back,

838
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: and their defense has had dominant stretches. Guys are getting

839
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: open on offense. The red zone offense was a disaster today,

840
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 5: and it was bad last week, but it was the

841
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: best in the league for the first four weeks. Like

842
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: Lamar looks comfortable in this offense. I'm not thrilled with

843
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: how they're playing. But they've all also been literally the

844
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: most injured team in the league in terms of using

845
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: the most starters, and it happened again today. Marcus Williams

846
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: left in this game. Kyle Hamilton got kicked out of

847
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: the game with a vicious hit that we saw right

848
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: in front of us, and so they're always dealing with

849
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 5: something and there is a sloppiness to them that has

850
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: to go away. If that doesn't, they're going to be bad.

851
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 5: But today they played an inferior team. They look like

852
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 5: the better team. They've looked like the better team for

853
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 5: six straight weeks and they lost two of them. But like,

854
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: if you can look like the better team for six

855
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 5: straight weeks, I feel like you got something there.

856
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely potential here. Absolutely. My questions are about

857
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: the offense. My questions are after all the talk and

858
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: we weren't really to our podcast credit, like totally on

859
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: board with this idea that their wide receivers.

860
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: It was a fixed situation because.

861
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: You were on top of this.

862
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Flowers.

863
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: I was hopeful.

864
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: Flowers has actually been better than I expected because they

865
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: haven't had a great track record with hitting on wide

866
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: receivers and they have.

867
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I think Flowers is a big future.

868
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews is a very steady tight end who's been

869
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: a little bit quiet this year. But steady Agalar is

870
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: an issue.

871
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 5: Their second best wide receiver, he's having an issue.

872
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham Junior has been not productive and has not

873
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: been an asset for this team. Ra Shat Bateman is

874
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: just never going to hit that level that I think

875
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: they need him to. And then there's the one other

876
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: part that and we're gonna I don't want to get

877
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: too down on the Ravens, but the only reason I'm

878
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: saying this, Greg is because you're pretty strong. You said

879
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: it on Sky today, you said it at the field,

880
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: uh that you see them as a Super Bowl contender.

881
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if Lamar is the same guy anymore

882
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: in terms of his ability to be a special playmaker.

883
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: You see him kind of getting taken down on plays

884
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: that maybe old Lamar a few years back is busting

885
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: for touchdowns.

886
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: And when we're looking at his when he got his

887
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: you know, taken down by essentially his ankle a couple years.

888
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Ago for that big play in the red zone on

889
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: that big third down or when they're near the goal line.

890
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that as much from him. Again, small

891
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: sample size, but it's just something to keep an eye on.

892
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Is Lamar gonna be the explosive guy that turns defenses

893
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: on their heads.

894
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 5: I think that's right, But I also think that means

895
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 5: he's gone as a running threat from the greatest running

896
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: quarterback I believe of all time, to one of the

897
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: five or six best running quarterbacks in the league. That

898
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: adds a lot to their running game still, But I

899
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 5: think that's a good point that not a lot of

900
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 5: people have thrown out there, and I think there's something

901
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: to it.

902
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: One And like I we're talking about like him functioning

903
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: well in a new offense, like watching O'Dell, and I

904
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: think Odell is just sort of He's not been that

905
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: guy for a while now, but I think today there

906
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: were a number of occurrences where he just seemed to

907
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: be in his own world a little bit.

908
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 5: With the interception. Seemed like a bad throat, but also

909
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: seemed like it was as like a confusion where they're not.

910
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Like, is he not like is Odell in another's again

911
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: in a new offense? Like is he You've had enough time?

912
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: It's not. It's just a veteran player. But he just

913
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: seemed out of sync with Lamar.

914
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Tennessee side of things here and Tannehill.

915
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: We actually were at the We're at the stadium. We're

916
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: going back and forth and doing the sky hit. We

917
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: did a in stadium on the jumbo tron hit with

918
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: our colleague and friend mj Acosta, who by the way,

919
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: helped us out with a Q and A on our

920
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: live show on Thursday, and we love her. We actually

921
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: as we're making our way across the field and the

922
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: catacombs of the Hot Toddy, here comes Ryan Tannehill almost

923
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: runs us over as he's getting carted off in the

924
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: second half with an ankle injury that he looked very

925
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: gimpy on an ankle before he got carted off.

926
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: And then you know, so he leaves and doesn't do anything.

927
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Mark when Leak Willis comes in and he looks very

928
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: similar to him, Malik Willis. That was so bad at

929
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: the end of last season that Tennessee went and got

930
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs off the street. So you put those things together,

931
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: I just don't see a future for this offense.

932
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: No, they already were lost in space concoction. So it's

933
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: like now arrow down on what was already a down

934
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: aimed arrow whatever that means.

935
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: But I will say that's a really down at describe it, like, you.

936
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: Know, there were these things, Oh Willis, you know, he's

937
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: he did look good in the preseason, or better at

938
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: least than he was last year. I hear it and basically,

939
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: like you know, Josh Dobbs, who's playing well in Arizona

940
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: right now. For the most part, like they on the fly,

941
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: the whole coaching staff came to a conclusion, we can't

942
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: trust Malik Willis. We're gonna go get someone off the

943
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: street to take us and.

944
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: Do the critical draft quarterback.

945
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 5: I draft someone.

946
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: It's like, soybe Mileek Willis won the job, but I

947
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: think he's gonna lose it again if he's stuck in

948
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: there for a while. Of Tannheils. I will say one

949
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: little thing about the tailing. It wasn't like us in

950
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: a thousand other reporters, it's saw Tannehill go by. It

951
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: was a weird, like it's something I'll remember about.

952
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 5: This is just us.

953
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: It was just the three of us. And also we

954
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: had to like it was a small little hallway in

955
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: this like Medusa's chambered underneath these stadiums, and it was

956
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: like we had to back up against the wall and

957
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: like he we barely like made room for this cart.

958
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: And you're just looking at the look on Tannehill's face.

959
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: It's like, wow, you can see that he's so.

960
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Dam Yeah, I didn't think you should have said get

961
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: well soon, QB.

962
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: Wright. He's like, I guess the Tanner scale.

963
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: The fist bump was also not which he did not

964
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: accept was not appropriate. I understand that now, but you know,

965
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm growing.

966
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: It is fun though. We were on the sideline, like

967
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: and Mark and I are just saying like the basic

968
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 5: basic bro comments when like, look, on one play, lamar

969
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: ran right near us, like five yards away from on

970
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: the sideline. We're just like, man, that guy's big.

971
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: They're huge.

972
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: Though. What we say every time we go to get

973
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: it's like focus is quite a managed ball.

974
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: Could walk into a bar and look like a giant

975
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: and beat anyone up or beat everyone up.

976
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a beast. Uh yeah, there was uh one.

977
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: I just the Titans are just a tough watch, and

978
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I was watching Rable throughout the game. There was a

979
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: moment when the Titans got back in the game and

980
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: it's a third quarter and they have the ball in

981
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: the red zone and it's second down and Tannehill again

982
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: was not physically right, but he drops back and throws

983
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: basically two prayers near the pylon to DeAndre Hopkins, who

984
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: had one catch on five targets. Neither had a chance

985
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: to the point where he was interfered with on one

986
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: Hopkins throw, but it was so thrown flung out of

987
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: bounds that they picked up the flag. And that was

988
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: after they all so on a fourth and one early

989
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: in the game, they settled for the field goal, and

990
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: it was just like, that's when I say I don't

991
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: see a future for this offense. It just feels like

992
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: it needs a harsh reboot. I know Henry had one

993
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: big run in this game that gave them life. Greg

994
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 2: on a direct snap, but he's a step slower now

995
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: and it's just like, I don't I just don't see

996
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: it happening for this team.

997
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 5: So he had a sixty three yarder, Spears had the

998
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 5: forty eight yarder that was about half of their offensive production,

999
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: and de hop it is cool to be on the

1000
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 5: field that close to see those one on one matchups

1001
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 5: and looks. He's never been the guy who wins immediately

1002
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 5: in terms of his release off the line of scrimmage.

1003
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 5: But those were two players where it was just like, man,

1004
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 5: he had no chance either, there was nowhere to throw

1005
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 5: the ball.

1006
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: We also saw him you know again, we're couched down

1007
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: in the end zone and he walked off like really

1008
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: holding his hand. So we'll see. I don't know. I mean,

1009
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: they can't afford to lose anyone else, but they already

1010
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: It almost doesn't matter with what I saw today.

1011
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way and do they have their by coming.

1012
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: Up next week?

1013
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 2: Is looked the way he was moving and he's had

1014
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: you know, injuries the last few years to slow him

1015
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: that that looks like something where he's gonna have to

1016
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: stay off it for a while.

1017
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was in a boot after this game,

1018
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: and like.

1019
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: He took where he got. I think some people, if

1020
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: you were just sort of watching the casually, you think

1021
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: he got he absolually got destroyed on the play, but

1022
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: he was hurt before that and hobbling around on the

1023
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: field and it's like this is the same thing that

1024
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: happened to him a year ago. And they they crashed

1025
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: down the stretch.

1026
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. They were a tough team to watch,

1027
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: and at times this week like this has been a

1028
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 5: tough city to be in. Cause when you're in London

1029
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 5: long enough, you can look up and it's a nice

1030
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 5: day and then out of nowhere, the sky's just open

1031
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 5: and then the rain comes down because the Ravens took

1032
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: care of this one big and forget about.

1033
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: Leaving the EU.

1034
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 5: England is back in the green coins falling from the

1035
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 5: sky all over the UK. The rain Makers one and

1036
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 5: one on the season.

1037
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not wrong this time. You know, it's

1038
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: been it's been up and down journey.

1039
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: But I wish you would have you know, he just

1040
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: went money line on it.

1041
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: I don't care, doesn't matter.

1042
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: He was prancing around all day in a beautiful rain

1043
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: Maker sweatshirt. I don't know if that was made for him,

1044
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: apparently not.

1045
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: But it was that he would be wearing it.

1046
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: I love the beautiful Everyone er out. It's from Idris

1047
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: Elba's charity, so I don't know it's been sold. If

1048
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: you really want to support the rain Maker, I mean it.

1049
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Should go to the people who've lost, you know, props

1050
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: on your on your probably but not you.

1051
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: We're doing fine. You know. It's been a tough been

1052
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: a tough couple of years for the.

1053
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: Little culture difference.

1054
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: That Elba's charity, which is or what it is, is

1055
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: very important.

1056
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: It's it's like knife violence awareness.

1057
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: There have been a lot of issues on the on

1058
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: the sub on the subways here out in the streets.

1059
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: And that's interesting.

1060
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: Our country deals with a different weapon that does a

1061
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: lot of damage knife awareness.

1062
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: And I also this is a separateation, but Dan's got

1063
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 5: a transition out of this one.

1064
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: I mentioned the child gangs. Be careful of this me.

1065
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Fire us into another game and we'll share some more

1066
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: England thoughts. Uh but uh, let's uh, let's.

1067
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: Head, let's head the cency. There was no way out. Now.

1068
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: I could have done it if Greg didn't call attention

1069
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: to that, right, Yeah, but that's what Greg does.

1070
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: Congratulations Greg and Mark, congratulations on your Lin's lock.

1071
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 9: Four and the seven from the eight Gino Smith back

1072
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 9: to throw finishing Ye, the ball squirts forward held the

1073
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 9: Bengals fall on it half the eight yard line.

1074
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 8: That is coffin now Bam bam bam.

1075
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, Sham Hubbard and Hill, Hubbard and Hill. Two more

1076
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 13: age boys. You got Henderson, Hill Hubbard, all the eight boys.

1077
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 13: Vacant plage pressure in the quarterbacks.

1078
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: The whiskey is flowing.

1079
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I must have an open bar there, Dan Horde and

1080
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham w c khy Well, it's good that that

1081
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Greggy got his glory there with the Ravens and you

1082
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: locked up the Ravens locked them up.

1083
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: Yes, climb and we need some locks. We need to

1084
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: hear that sound. That's that's what we live for. And

1085
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: uh Zeuser locked up this one with the west Brothers

1086
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: as the Bengals, even though their offense.

1087
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep hitting those locks. We got to do three row.

1088
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 5: I mean, Nick Westling will be very We need four

1089
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: in row.

1090
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: We got to catch us.

1091
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: He's on a little streak.

1092
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna hear about it.

1093
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: One more, Nick. I mean you should these texts that

1094
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Westling was sending talk about an open bar.

1095
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys are lucky that you pivoted out

1096
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: of that fort lock.

1097
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: Can we get that music? Yeah?

1098
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: I don't listen all you people on social media that

1099
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: think they know what a cowardly lock is. Really I

1100
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: can give the Bengals their music back if you could,

1101
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: mister Kleinman, because they deserve it. Their defense does at

1102
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: least getting multiple stops on Gino Smith and the Seahawks

1103
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: deep in the red zone and stealing really a seventeen

1104
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: thirteen win.

1105
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: Sureg.

1106
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: I know this is frustrating for you as a Gino fan,

1107
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: as a Seahawks fan, because they had their chances here

1108
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: to take a win after their own defense. That's such

1109
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: a great job against Burrow in that offense after the

1110
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: first couple of drives, but they couldn't make the big play. Now.

1111
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: The Seahawks were inside the fifteen yard line three separate

1112
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 5: times in this game without scoring a single point. Once

1113
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 5: had a first and goal at the three where they

1114
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: got backed up by a penalty and Gino threw an interception.

1115
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 5: They outgained the Bengals three eighty one to two fourteen.

1116
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: They dominated, But oh, I try to look at this globally,

1117
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: and I think the Bengals have become a winning organization,

1118
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 5: a winning team, and they've just found a way to

1119
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 5: get to their buy at three and three somehow. If

1120
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: you think about all six their games, none of them

1121
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: have been complete, none of them, and yet they're three

1122
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: and three in Arizona. Their defense was getting shredded, but

1123
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 5: their offense stepped up with a big game last week.

1124
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: In this one and then the Monday night win against

1125
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 5: the Rams, the defense gave up a lot of yards

1126
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: but saved him, and they just have found a way.

1127
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 5: They're healthy enough. Burrow moved in this game, even though

1128
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: the offense was essentially stillborn after the first quarter, and

1129
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 5: they've escaped, and they made enough big plays and Trey

1130
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 5: Hendrickson and Hubbard and all the h boys, as they said,

1131
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 5: made it happen, and they confused the hell out of Genosmith.

1132
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: I can't remember Geno Smith ever holding the ball as

1133
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: long as he held it today.

1134
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm willing to, like just look beyond what happened after

1135
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 3: those first two really great touchdown drives, just because you

1136
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: know your quarterback is healthy. He looked healthy, he's moving great.

1137
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: You know that. You just believe the burrow will correct

1138
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: these things, the offense will. But here this were the

1139
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: net yards on the drives after those two touchdown marches

1140
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: twenty four fifteen thirteen nineteen zero twelve four negative one.

1141
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's concerning, because it's like it is concerning.

1142
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: They've been a concerning team. They're lucky to be three

1143
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 5: and three. They could be a two and four one five.

1144
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: But if we're gonna, you know, if we're gonna say

1145
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: Baltimore could be this, but they're this, like the Bengals

1146
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: could be this, but they're this. But the Bengals have

1147
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: already shown that their AFC title material. And I kind

1148
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: of want to trust them to get out of these

1149
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: out of these out.

1150
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: Of this group.

1151
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that if you talk to a

1152
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: Bengals fan and said, listen, Burrow is going to be

1153
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: on one leg for most of the first six weeks,

1154
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: and you look at the schedule, I think you would

1155
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: take three and three. And even though the offense really

1156
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: the offense, it's disappointing how they were unable to get

1157
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: anything going here down the stretch, including multiple times where

1158
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: they could have closed out Seattle and kept on opening

1159
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: the door. And lou Anenumo's defense deserves a ton of credit. Still,

1160
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: you saw Burrow moving well in this game. He was

1161
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: fleshed out, didn't seem to have any setbacks. So as

1162
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: long as he's still physically healthy, they're gonna continue, I think,

1163
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 2: to figure things out. But at the same time, Greg

1164
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: and you were saying it when we were in the

1165
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: car right over from Hot Tidi to Sky Studios. When

1166
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: they score those two touchdowns in the first half, it's like, Oh,

1167
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: they're back and they're just gonna roll. So it's a

1168
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: little mystifying to see it dry up the way it

1169
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: did in this game.

1170
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: Right, t Higgins is having a nightmare free agent season. Yeah,

1171
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: two catches for twenty yards and miscommunications. Today they weren't

1172
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 5: banged up. The running game going. I also think they

1173
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: played a really good Seahawks team who is figuring out

1174
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 5: how to put it all together and win, and they

1175
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 5: didn't today. But you know, look, they're the one team

1176
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 5: that did beat Detroit and they're starting to show signs

1177
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: on defense that they could be difficult to deal with.

1178
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 5: So I think it's gonna be a really frustrating game

1179
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 5: because for the most part, despite the sacks and the hits,

1180
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 5: I actually think Gino was protected pretty well. He just

1181
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 5: he just didn't know what he was seeing and he

1182
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 5: just held it forever, over and over and over again.

1183
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 5: It was one of those games where you don't want

1184
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 5: to be on the TV copy because you're like, what

1185
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 5: are you doing, Gino? You're just you're just holding it

1186
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 5: forever and maybe sometimes the receivers aren't open, uh, but

1187
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 5: you still got to get rid of the ball. And

1188
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 5: so that's a credit to the Bengals defense. But for

1189
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 5: the most part, like there's a lot of good things

1190
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: about the Sea Ox team. After five you.

1191
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: Talked about like him throwing with almost extreme confidence at

1192
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: times where he's like firing the ball into dangerous I

1193
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: think it's like I kind of like that he just

1194
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: simply believe I have some dimes to night. He threw

1195
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: a couple insane throws. Can I just want to play

1196
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: the Bengals song for like one second? I want to

1197
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: tell you one thing I think about it. We just

1198
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: play it for a second.

1199
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Nice Well, So.

1200
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: Like I was listening to this, it's like, I do

1201
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: truly believe this is a top three song for me

1202
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: in my entire life. It's just become that, you know,

1203
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: because it's like I think I will put this on

1204
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: air pods, on.

1205
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: This better than sus It.

1206
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: Is number three all time, it's's greatest and.

1207
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: Is in a one or two spot, you know it.

1208
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: Can I can shuffle between two end you songs, but

1209
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: this is number three. And it's like I'm just gonna

1210
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: sit on that airplane home with a drink on the

1211
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: table and just listen to it on repeat.

1212
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: How the West Was Won?

1213
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: It's got a little bit of that thing. Yeah, And

1214
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: I think it fits the Bengals team, you know, they

1215
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: wild West. You know showdowns, everyone gets a little dirty, filthy,

1216
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: sometimes very filthy, filthy, dirty man.

1217
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: We had some good times with a handsome Hank Henry Hodgson,

1218
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 2: our buddy, one of our great buds that started here

1219
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: in England, did a decade or so in l a

1220
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: And that was back in England running the show for

1221
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: the UK. We had we had conversations in the Wilton

1222
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: Arms the pub. You're a hotel that we can never

1223
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: discuss it, No, we.

1224
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: Can never discuss. And I think it's funny because like

1225
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: out on the town, and it happens only in London,

1226
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: but like out in the town sometimes, like you know,

1227
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: like there are a lot of people are here for

1228
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: the football game, Like they'll come up to us and

1229
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: want to take a photo and then Henry's like sometimes

1230
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: taking the photo. It's like do you realize that Henry

1231
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: is essentially like Europe's Roder Goodell, like the and and

1232
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: probably some day has a chance to be our Roder

1233
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: Goodell And like uh, they're like would you mind taking

1234
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: a photo of the boys like tall and powerful and handsome,

1235
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: and like, well, that's not what I thought you were

1236
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: gonna right.

1237
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: No, I mean that was a that was a pretty

1238
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 5: strong pivot away from well no, potentially dangerous territory. We

1239
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 5: cannot dance biologically.

1240
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: We cannot discuss the other topic on it.

1241
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I thought what you were gonna say, Mark, was that

1242
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: we were, you know, a fans coming up to ask

1243
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: for a photo. And then you realize, oh, they were

1244
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: sitting at the table next to us during some of

1245
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: these conversations that could never be shared.

1246
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: No, they would want nothing to do with us if

1247
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 3: they if they hadn't heard.

1248
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's stay in the NFC West and see

1249
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: how the Rams number nine and royal and it's all

1250
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: above the board.

1251
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: It's nothing.

1252
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: I love that rugby touchdown.

1253
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup touch that away.

1254
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 13: Thirteen yards for his first touchdown this season, night and

1255
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 13: dime on the money on the first possession of the

1256
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 13: third quarter.

1257
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: That's our boy, j B.

1258
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Long.

1259
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I call him JB Smooth. Been taken now.

1260
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: It is because he's so so velvety on the mic.

1261
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: And guess what, the Rams they just take care. It's

1262
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: a take care of business week against the Cardinals who

1263
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: hung in the first half as they seem to do

1264
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: most weeks.

1265
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: But the Rams pull away.

1266
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: And yes it is Cooper Cup with his first of

1267
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: what if he remains healthy now many many touchdowns this

1268
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: season because he is as good as ever with Matthew

1269
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: Stafford flinging them perfect spirals twenty six to nine Rams

1270
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: roll Mark.

1271
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: It's Cooper Cup and it's someone else, and I wonder

1272
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: if it signals a potential change for the Rams TBD

1273
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: on that, But they were they were sat at around

1274
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 3: sixty five yards in the first half until Stafford hit

1275
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: Cup for forty five yard game that set up a

1276
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: field goal to put them up nine to six. That said,

1277
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: they were twenty minutes in the game and close to

1278
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: halftime too. They had six yards rushing and they had

1279
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: been into it coming into this contest. In four out

1280
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: of five of them, they were held under one hundred

1281
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: yards and it's just like they just they couldn't run

1282
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: the ball. And it's like with all that else that's

1283
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: going on, like on this team in general, it's like

1284
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: you want to see them be able to be balanced,

1285
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: and they couldn't, and it was it was it put

1286
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: them out into rough pastures at times. But then I

1287
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: love what happened you come out of halftime, because again

1288
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: this was a game where the Cardinals it's like, I

1289
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: don't they're sneaky, frisky or I don't know what the

1290
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: term is, but they were hanging around. Josh Dobbs is

1291
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: doing his thing there. Defense looked really like they're fightty

1292
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 3: first half, their first half, fight here, or sometimes it's

1293
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: second half, but it's like definitely first half. And the

1294
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: Rams came out and it's like, we're gonna do the

1295
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: thing that we can't do and just keep doing it

1296
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: till we can. And Kyron Williams, who has you know,

1297
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: been up and down, came out on this opening drive

1298
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: to take a bigger lead, and he gashed the Cardinals

1299
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: for seventeen yards. Next play six yards, next play fourteen yards,

1300
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: next play ten yards, and it's like, this is how

1301
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: you start to break a team like the Cardinals that

1302
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: knows they can hang around, but then at this point

1303
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: they're one in five starts to probably have internal suspicions

1304
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: when a team gets hot on them like this. Kyen

1305
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: Williams Winds up with one hundred and fifty eight yards

1306
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: and a touchdown at seven point nine yards per carry.

1307
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: To me, because shutting down the Cardinals offense is never

1308
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: a huge story. To do this on the ground and

1309
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: to dominate they way they did down the stretch was

1310
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: a bit of a sea change, and I just wonder

1311
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: if you know, teams change, and if they can start

1312
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: to run the ball this in big spots or on

1313
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: big downs from short yardage situations, if you can trust

1314
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: that this Rams team that is three and three is

1315
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: in a different place.

1316
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 5: What's amazing to even think about that they could be

1317
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 5: a team that has a take care of business game.

1318
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: Right.

1319
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 5: They're supposed to be one of the worst teams league,

1320
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 5: and they were trailing at halftime and they won the

1321
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 5: second half twenty to nothing. And you think about their

1322
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 5: two wins Colts and the Cardinals, their last two wins,

1323
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: they ran the ball very physically in both of these games.

1324
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: That's the type of team that they want to be,

1325
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: to be a closing team that wears you down. You

1326
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 5: don't think of the Rams that way, but they can

1327
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: do that because they have Stafford in Cup, Like that's

1328
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 5: the thing that makes it happen. And out of the

1329
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 5: ten best throws I thought saw today, I feel like

1330
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: four or five were Stafford. It's just like, I just

1331
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 5: want to watching this dude play and you can't really

1332
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 5: separate Cup from Stafford, but that doesn't matter. Like it's

1333
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 5: a wide receiver league and there's you just can't tell

1334
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 5: me there's any wide receiver particularly better than Cooper Cup.

1335
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 5: I mean, justin Jefferson is who he is. And if

1336
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 5: I'm like starting a team, I guess it would take

1337
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 5: him first. But you can't. He's not at another level.

1338
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 5: No one is a level above where Cooper Cup is

1339
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 5: fifteen for two sixty six in his first two games back.

1340
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: By Yeah, and uh, I guess the only thing that

1341
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: would stop you is that he's a little bit sneaky old.

1342
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: He's thirty, kind of you kind of expect that.

1343
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 5: But when he's on the field and healthy.

1344
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: And he's had he had a he had a knee

1345
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: injury that cost him a season, but like his yeah,

1346
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: his ability to get open and just really master like

1347
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: seems like every element of the game. And again, I

1348
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: think he was a third round pick back in the day.

1349
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, sixty ninth overall twenty seventeen. He's a brilliant player.

1350
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, I know, I know, Matthew Stafford's probably not

1351
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame, but he is to

1352
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: me one of the greatest throwers of the football that

1353
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: I have ever seen. He is right there with Aaron Rodgers,

1354
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: who many times gets that crown in terms of modern players.

1355
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: Such a beautiful ball, and he throws some of those things.

1356
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: Greg.

1357
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: You just it's like a you need kind of a

1358
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: cannon to make some of the throws he makes. But

1359
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: he puts them right on the right, on the money, uh,

1360
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: with no margin, Ferrera, and he does it quite often.

1361
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: You protect him and keep him healthy. This is a

1362
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: playoff team that wanted.

1363
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: To at well.

1364
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: Was like hello, like that that was two twos only catch,

1365
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 5: and now you know Pukaku is gonna be less of

1366
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 5: the offense. He had twenty six yards today and two

1367
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 5: too only had that one catch. Like it's fine. They

1368
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: don't need to be superstars, but he's making their production

1369
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 5: with these shrows. If they're just a fun team, I mean, uh,

1370
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 5: they're a fun team to watch. They're giving the Rams

1371
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 5: fans some enjoyment. I'm gonna lock them up.

1372
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: Are you gonna nominate him? Give him a lock?

1373
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: Sound?

1374
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Wow?

1375
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 5: The Rams movie.

1376
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if if the audience would be down

1377
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: with that, but I think that they are certainly fun

1378
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: to watch, and they are to me like one of

1379
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: the biggest surprises definitely in the NFC West and in

1380
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: general in the NFC because they are in a credit

1381
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: credit credit to Sean.

1382
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: One little other No, I feel like I don't know

1383
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: if we mentioned his name in ages. But like Raheem Morris,

1384
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: who took leads a defense that you know in August

1385
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: for like Aaron Donald has no one else around him.

1386
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: He's done a He's like my mom always monitoring this

1387
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: assistant Coach of the Year thing. Jim Schwartz is up there,

1388
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 3: but like Raheem.

1389
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: We're monitoring who, like who could dare come up against

1390
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: your beloved Jim Schwartz.

1391
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: That's what this well.

1392
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: But they also wasn't my pick A couple of weeks ago.

1393
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: Ram was probably also have like the twenty fifth best

1394
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 5: even also shout out to Veronica, Sean mcvay's wife for

1395
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 5: holding that baby in just one more day so he

1396
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 5: could coach that win. A veteran moved by her, I'm.

1397
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: Sure she's listening. Controls fourth and.

1398
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 6: Ten at the Houston twenty four car in the gun leg.

1399
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 5: Down, here's the snap.

1400
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: Controlling it.

1401
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 6: Are gonna call it incomplete and Saints turning over on downs.

1402
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 13: Houston has the rock fifteen seconds to go, but they

1403
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 13: can shoes.

1404
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: Okay with you sharing that very private moment.

1405
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: That's public, that's public names.

1406
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 1: All right there it is, Well, what do you guys

1407
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: talk over the shut up? Mark vandermir with a call

1408
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: k I L.

1409
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: T Texans Man. The Texans a what a fun start

1410
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: to the season. They are three and three, but they

1411
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: are a feisty, frisky no no, no, no, forget feisty,

1412
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: a frisky three and three twenty to thirteen win over

1413
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints at home. CJ Stroud once again

1414
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: making big boy throws in.

1415
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: His rookie season.

1416
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: He throws for nearly two hundred yards two scores, and

1417
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: they get some good stops on defense. A game here,

1418
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: boys where Derek Carr, you know, box scores can lie.

1419
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: He threw for three hundred and fifty three yards in

1420
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: that game. But they only produce, like I said, thirteen

1421
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: points and they only allowed three points the second half

1422
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: the Houston defense. So Demiico Ryans is starting to figure

1423
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: some things out on this side of things. And you

1424
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: have what are you? What's wrong?

1425
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: I'll ask you a question in a minute. Go ahead,

1426
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: Well go you're talk about the thirteen points, like, yes,

1427
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: you get to Houston's thirty four miss field goal, You

1428
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: get to Houston's twenty seven or sorry, Houston's eleven missfield goal,

1429
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: and then your final drive you get to Houston's twenty

1430
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: four and you have an interception. How frustrating is can

1431
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: that be for Saints fans? Yeah, the furniture around the room.

1432
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: They consistently they moved the ball, but then when it

1433
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: was time to do the business of scoring, they failed.

1434
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: To the point they had four hundred and thirty yards

1435
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: in this game to just two ninety seven for the Texans,

1436
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: and yet they did not have that ability to punch

1437
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: it in and take this game. So credit Houston's defense

1438
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: is starting to figure some things out.

1439
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 5: I would be concerned for the Saints, but I'm so

1440
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: excited about this Texans team.

1441
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: They matched their win total from last year.

1442
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 5: That's well, for real, it's that and they're gonna They're

1443
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 5: at least hopefully because I'm liking this team, gonna keep

1444
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 5: Jacksonville honest in a division that the Jaguars could threaten

1445
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 5: to pull away with. The Titans don't look too good.

1446
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 5: You know, we heard some bad news about Richardson. You know,

1447
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 5: Patrick and Chuck will get to those games later. But

1448
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 5: this Texans team is young. They have the like makeup

1449
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 5: to get better as the season goes along because they're

1450
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 5: so young.

1451
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this game, well, the Saints have lost third

1452
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: time in four games after opening the season at two

1453
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: and zero. And yeah, I think that's it's a it's

1454
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: a game about missed opportunities for this offense. And you know,

1455
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: I think if you're someone who's uh, there's a couple

1456
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 2: of things with this offense that Derek Carr is. He's

1457
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: very similar to the Raiders Derek Carr, where he's gonna

1458
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: give you a very professional effort, but he's not maybe

1459
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: a playmaker quarterback that you need. Alvin Kamara, he's really

1460
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: there since he came back from the suspension. He is

1461
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: very very active within this offense.

1462
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 5: They give him the ball a ton twenty six touches.

1463
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: But the difference between Alvin Kamara of this year and

1464
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: a couple of years back is he doesn't ever kind

1465
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: of get that crease and have that big play. He'll

1466
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: go get you seven yards now, but that's seven yards

1467
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: used to be twenty yards a couple of years back,

1468
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: So that's an issue. And yeah, Chris A Lave, they

1469
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: find a way to get him the ball. If you

1470
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: want to look for positive. It's one of the things

1471
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: that have been frustrating I think for Saints fans is

1472
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: a lave not being the focal point of the passing game.

1473
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: He led the team in targets at nearly a one

1474
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: hundred yards, but ultimately when they needed to make the

1475
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: big play, a lave Michael Thomas kept out of the

1476
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: end zone, as was Alvin Kamara.

1477
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 5: I like it when, just like record justice happens. The

1478
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 5: Saints should not be a four and two team. They

1479
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 5: deserve to be knocked down to three and three the Texans.

1480
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 5: They've been an enjoyable team. They deserve to get up

1481
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 5: to three and three. So it's just like this, this

1482
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 5: was justice.

1483
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: The boring offense rankings. You know, the Patriots are beyond

1484
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: I mean sure, if boring were the worst possible thing,

1485
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: you could say they're the number one team. But where

1486
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 3: are the Saints? Just feels like a that sounds like

1487
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: a Wednesday Show conversation.

1488
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 5: Okay, well, especially because they're played on Thursday night football.

1489
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh perfect, look, you've you've done our work for jah there.

1490
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we have to watch this game though on

1491
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: tape and I'll watch the text watch it.

1492
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: Okay, now, let's take care of some housekeeping before we

1493
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: hand the handoff uh to claybann and shook.

1494
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: First of all, rugby shout out into rugby now. Was

1495
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: completely unaware of its existence. Almost I knew that it

1496
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: was a thing. Actually watched it with Henry at a

1497
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: bar in notting Hill. Watched a great Whales Argentina match. Argentina.

1498
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: Good job, Ireland gets taken up by New Zealand. That

1499
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 2: one hurt, but it was actually another fun match. Big thanks.

1500
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, rugby, you guys discover any sport. It's out here.

1501
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 5: I mean I watched the Ireland game. I was learning

1502
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 5: about the strategy. I'm into it now too. Like watching

1503
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 5: the hits today on the field from up close was crazy,

1504
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 5: but suddenly they didn't seem quite as vicious after.

1505
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: Watching I don't know half those rugby guys survive one game.

1506
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta say climbing.

1507
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 5: Yes, I was gonna say England for South Africa now

1508
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 5: and the Semis coming up.

1509
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: Look at you gotta you gotta stick around and watch

1510
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 3: it there.

1511
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 5: I watched that game and and I I would like

1512
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 5: to declare the entire New Zealand team is now in

1513
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,480
Speaker 5: the concussion protocol just by my eyes.

1514
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: And and uh yes, uh, Ireland for me is my

1515
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: team of a rugby TL and I hope they'll be

1516
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: back next year and Sexton and company have one more

1517
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: crack at it big. Thanks to everybody here at Sky.

1518
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: It could not have run smoother everyone that we worked with, uh,

1519
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: including uh Phoebe, who was a pleasure.

1520
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely we got to get around the show.

1521
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: Yes, and also of course Neil Reynolds, our buddy we

1522
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: met and Dominic and Sue, who introduced himself as Sue,

1523
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: just said high, I'm Sue.

1524
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 4: That was interesting.

1525
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 3: I think we formed. I mean there was a friendship

1526
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: that for him there until maybe we began to do

1527
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: our on field hits and by the end of the

1528
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: game he might have thought, oh my god.

1529
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 5: Mark immediately mentioned, uh the column that he's brought up

1530
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 5: about seventy eight times on this show that he wrote

1531
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 5: about moms.

1532
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 3: Of the Dominic and Sue's mom, who you know, went

1533
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: on a long, delightful tangent about Dominic and Sue at

1534
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: a young age being sort of a genius with legos,

1535
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: and I thought.

1536
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: A really nice conversation icebreak or they call that, Yes,

1537
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: so thank you.

1538
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: To talk to him four or five more times, and

1539
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 3: then the attraction level on his side and started.

1540
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: A Thanks to Zika, that Indian restaurant in London. That

1541
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: was the wonderful dinner we had last night. Second year

1542
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: in a row we've gone to Zike. Killed it. If

1543
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 1: you're in London and you want to have was it free?

1544
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 5: Ten out of ten? It was not free.

1545
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: Thank you too. You're helping them, you know, and.

1546
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 5: That makes me that happy. They deserve it.

1547
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you to everyone back at the NFL

1548
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 2: office who helped make this happen, Matt Schneider, Meredith Batton,

1549
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 2: like all the people that support our show behind the scenes.

1550
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: Uh and get us here because it's it takes work.

1551
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: And of course Henry Hotson, who's done amazing work supporting

1552
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: us through the years, including once again this year.

1553
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: Anything else, I mean stepping right into with the live

1554
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 5: show right here on the ones and twos. We got

1555
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 5: DJ Jason Klein.

1556
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: Got a DJ horn in there in the post he fire, Yeah,

1557
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: d killed it, killed it.

1558
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 5: He killed it. But no, it's all like this is

1559
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 5: all these trips. You just feel very grateful for where

1560
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: we're at and grateful that we got guys like Shook

1561
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: and Claybon to take the rest of the show home

1562
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 5: so we don't have to blather on anymore. It's two

1563
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 5: in the morning. We've talked for an hour.

1564
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: And just and just U with Climbing.

1565
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: Not only did he do a great job of producing

1566
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: and helping us out today of course what has been

1567
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: a sixteen hour day, we threw him into the boiler

1568
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 2: of a live show and then end he really stepped

1569
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: up for us there too.

1570
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: So Jason, thank you, Buy and.

1571
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 5: Eric back on the home front.

1572
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say big, big shout out to Eric.

1573
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of help back there, Eric

1574
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 5: Brady and the team. So you can celebrate by enjoying

1575
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 5: like half a day off and then another podcast tomorrow

1576
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 5: and then another podcast on.

1577
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: All right, without further ado, we have some more games

1578
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: to get to, but we are going to sign off

1579
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: here as we are past two am here in London.

1580
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: I can't wait to be back next year. But now

1581
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: we throw it to Patrick Claiban to take us home.

1582
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 1: Claibah momentum is real.

1583
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 4: And a big American hello to you guys.

1584
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 14: Appreciate that to the guys in London will allow them

1585
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 14: to take a break. Patrick Claiborn here in the Chris

1586
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 14: Westling podcast studio, joined digitally by Nick Shook.

1587
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 4: Nick, we got it. We'll give the boys a break

1588
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 4: and we'll finish up week six for him. Why not?

1589
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 10: This is the magic of the Internet.

1590
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 15: We can do this from multiple different time zones right now,

1591
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 15: you know, from the West Coast to the North Coast

1592
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 15: to whatever they call around London.

1593
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 14: We're doing it all everything. If the people in London

1594
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 14: are listening. We got a dude from northeast ohioan a

1595
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 14: dude from central Alabama. I'm ready to finish up this podcast,

1596
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 14: so let's get things going.

1597
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 4: It's top for the.

1598
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 14: Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander.

1599
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 14: After a slow start, it was defends to the finish

1600
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 14: in Miami.

1601
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 5: Third down in golf of the one posted in the backfield.

1602
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: It's got it to moster touchdowns.

1603
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: Third in the afternoon. Boy, Raheem Mostert just does it again.

1604
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: It's get tippy out there now too.

1605
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: Got a pushing and shoving.

1606
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: What a game for.

1607
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 13: Raheem Mostert and the Dolphins now score thirty four consecutive points.

1608
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 3: They were down fourteen nothing at the end.

1609
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Of the first quarter.

1610
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: It's now thirty four to fourteen over the Panthers.

1611
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 14: Jimmy'son following Joe Rose to WBGG telling the story. They're

1612
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 14: at Carolina Panthers team they said it fourteen to nothing. Shook,

1613
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 14: but then the Miami Dolphins happened. Raheem Mostard had three touchdowns.

1614
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 14: Excuse me, to a tongue and to Low had three touchdowns.

1615
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 14: Most had one hundred and fifteen yards on the ground.

1616
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 4: You start fast agains. It doesn't matter. They're the Dolphins.

1617
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 15: No, No, it doesn't matter at all. This is a

1618
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 15: team that I think maybe needed a slow first quarter

1619
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 15: to service. They're smelling salts because once they woke up,

1620
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 15: they were off to the races. It's as if somebody

1621
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 15: just knocked them right in the john said hey, you

1622
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 15: have a football game to play. They were like, oh,

1623
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 15: you're right. We are the Miami Dolphins. We do have

1624
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 15: Tyreek Hill, we do have two a tongue of by

1625
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 15: Low and Raheem Moster. Even if we don't have Devona

1626
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 15: h Chain, we'll be just fine. And they were just fine.

1627
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 15: Got off to the races, had a phenomenal second and

1628
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 15: third quarter, just put up a ton of points on

1629
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 15: the board.

1630
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 10: Everything seemed easy for them.

1631
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,839
Speaker 15: Offensively, they figured it out defensively, Bryce Stung looked solid

1632
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 15: in the first quarter, he looked he had two of

1633
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 15: his best drives of his young career, and then after

1634
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 15: that only went back to being the Panthers and didn't

1635
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 15: score again offensively for the rest of the game. Miami

1636
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 15: is they're almost a team that's just inevitable at this point.

1637
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 15: They're a team that's gonna put points on the board.

1638
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 15: They've only really struggled offensively once, and that was going

1639
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 15: to win over the Patriots on Sunday Night Football. Since then,

1640
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 15: they've just been a machine, and they were a machine

1641
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 15: once again on Sunday.

1642
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 14: They did it without their their new speedy addition to

1643
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 14: von h Hm, who's had a spectacular start to his career,

1644
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 14: Raheem Mostert taking the line chair.

1645
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 4: That carry's getting the most out of those.

1646
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 14: And then you come into the fact you get Jalen

1647
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 14: Wattle doing the wattle, the owners up in the booth

1648
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 14: waddling as well. Tyreek Hill is doing a celebration that

1649
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 14: inevitably and for those of you didn't see, he scores

1650
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 14: that touchdown, grabs somebody who has already recorded. This was

1651
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 14: previously discussed clearly because he's recording. As Tyreek Hill scores,

1652
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 14: he takes the phone from the person who's recording, does

1653
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 14: a backflip while looking at the phone, and gives it

1654
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 14: back to him. I'm sure we'll use that in promotions.

1655
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 14: While Tyreek is being fined either way, he says he

1656
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 14: doesn't care about the money. They're a point machine. There's

1657
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 14: an absolute point factory in South Florida.

1658
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 10: I think Mike mcdanield said that for the game. I

1659
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 10: was told that it was a prop and I told him, and.

1660
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 15: He said, well, it wasn't my phone, so don't I

1661
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 15: don't see the problem with it. The other thing I

1662
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 15: have about this phone video, by the way, is I

1663
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 15: saw Joe shadd had tweeted it and it ended right

1664
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 15: when he grabbed the phone and looked down. I don't

1665
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 15: know if it was trimmed on purpose or if it

1666
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 15: really did just end there. If so big missed opportunity

1667
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 15: on a highlight play. But yeah, I mean this, Tyree

1668
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 15: Hills so much fun to watch this team. He You know,

1669
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 15: we speak hyperbolically about a lot of players pretty often,

1670
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 15: because this is a league full of elite talent, but

1671
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 15: he is just one of a kind in the way

1672
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 15: that his catch and run ability can completely change a

1673
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 15: game and just given an entire defense nightmares. I mean,

1674
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 15: he ran a deep in I think it would have

1675
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 15: been for a game of like twenty yards. He reversed

1676
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 15: course at midfield on the logo and picked up another

1677
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 15: twenty seven yards going down the right sideline. Nobody could

1678
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 15: catch me to run out of bounce. It's just he's

1679
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 15: a phenomenal player and really keeps this this offense going.

1680
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 15: Oh and by the way, speaking of celebrations, they didn't

1681
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 15: remember the Titans celebration.

1682
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 10: I don't if you remember that scene where they walked in.

1683
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 15: They do the you know you know, like, yeah, they

1684
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 15: did that one too.

1685
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 10: They're very creative there.

1686
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 14: They're gonna run out of movies at a certain point

1687
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 14: that they're scoring so much. This Dolphins team fun to watch,

1688
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 14: fun to watch them celebrate in the end zone. They

1689
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 14: get the win forty two to twenty one over those

1690
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 14: Carolina Panthers.

1691
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 4: As you said, Sammy, yes, be invinezo Ammyammy.

1692
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 14: They get that win. That was the Sunday Drive presented

1693
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 14: by Toyota. Let's go places learn more. At Toyota dot

1694
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 14: Com slash Grand Highlander.

1695
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 4: So we'll get a chance to see Tyreek Hill.

1696
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 14: In a revenge game in Frankfurt, Germany against the Kansas

1697
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 14: City Chiefs. There were so many revenge game dynamics going

1698
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 14: on in Las Vegas today. Josh McDaniels, the former twice

1699
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 14: over three times over Padawan taking on Bill Belichick, the

1700
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 14: Jedi master in Las Vegas.

1701
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: How about we finish this off with a safety?

1702
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: Shall we anything but a deep bowl, poured out territory?

1703
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 7: Obviously Jones standing in his own end zone to our right,

1704
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 7: snap back to pressure again off.

1705
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 6: The edge, bat sack for the safety, Crossdy and Nichols.

1706
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 4: They noted the seng.

1707
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 7: Hey school sto to the turf?

1708
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 4: Have the Raiders defense?

1709
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 9: How's that safety?

1710
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 4: Jason Sis who predicted it? How about you give me

1711
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 4: the lottery numbers for next week.

1712
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 14: That's Lincoln Kennedy asking Jason Horowitz of KRLV, what happened

1713
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 14: there and what's going to happen?

1714
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: Is he predicted the safety?

1715
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 14: Max Crosby gets to Mac Jones and this Patriots team

1716
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 14: falls yet again.

1717
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: Shook.

1718
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 14: They lose to the Raiders in Las Vegas. They are

1719
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 14: just a brutal performance by an offense twenty one to seventeen.

1720
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 14: They did finally get back in the red zone, but

1721
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 14: they couldn't do a.

1722
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: Lot out of it.

1723
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, first off, I know this is kind of out

1724
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 15: of my realm of power and influence, but I'm just

1725
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 15: gonna suggest this right now to you. Producer Eric put

1726
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 15: that in the file folder for best calls the year.

1727
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 10: I mean, it's already the lottery numbers called.

1728
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 15: That's gotta be there, because this was fantastic, a great

1729
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 15: way to end this game in an otherwise kind.

1730
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 10: Of an ugly game.

1731
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 15: Patrick, To be honest with you, the Patriots got a

1732
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 15: little bit better offensively, a little bit a little bit better,

1733
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 15: not still not very good. They did get to the

1734
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 15: red zone, like you said, finally, but everything is so

1735
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 15: tough for this team, you know, not to start with

1736
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 15: the losers in this in this show and in this

1737
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 15: game recap. But I mean, they needed seventeen plays and

1738
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 15: nine and a half minutes to score a touchdown to

1739
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 15: make it a one possession game of the fourth coreter.

1740
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 15: They didn't leave themselves much time. Then Mac Jones throws

1741
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 15: his best pass to twenty twenty three and Devonte Parker

1742
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 15: drops a near midfield. I mean, that's just where these

1743
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 15: Patriots are offensively right now. It's tough to watch. Meanwhile,

1744
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 15: on the Raiders side, pretty good team win, I think,

1745
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 15: nothing super spectacular. You lose Jimmy Garoppolo before halftime, do

1746
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 15: a back injury. Brian Hoyer steps in, gets you into

1747
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 15: the red zone a few times, can't finish the job

1748
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 15: because he still remembered, you know, he's Brian Hoyer and

1749
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 15: does not throw to Devonte Adams where you can actually

1750
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 15: go both and make a play on the ball. But

1751
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 15: you know, it was a strong performance I think as

1752
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 15: a team, just the Raiders are a team that too

1753
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 15: often have melted down and lost games like this. Last

1754
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 15: year they did it a lot, and for it was

1755
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 15: really refreshing to see them close this one out with

1756
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 15: you know, both all three phases in the game.

1757
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, and again you said you hate to start with

1758
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 14: the losing team, but truly it feels as though this

1759
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 14: was another Patriots lost. Mac Jones rolling to his right,

1760
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 14: is looking for Hunter Henry, who's opening. Got his hands up.

1761
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 14: He tries to throw on the run. He throws it

1762
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 14: seven or eight yards behind Hunter Henry and Trayvon Merrick

1763
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 14: picks that ball off, takes it back.

1764
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 4: Down the sideline.

1765
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 14: There were so many missed opportunities you mentioned Devonte Parker.

1766
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 14: This was a team that had gone twenty seven consecutive

1767
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 14: drives without making an appearance into the red zone. They

1768
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 14: finally do, and it's it's kind of more of the

1769
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 14: same and they have to play so well, They have

1770
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 14: to execute so well to make things work, and when

1771
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 14: they don't do that, it just looks bad. There's not

1772
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 14: really an idea. I actually picked them to win this game.

1773
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 14: And considering the fact that Jimmy Garoppolo leaves you mentioned

1774
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 14: he has to go to the hospital they're checking on

1775
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 14: his back. Brian Hoyer comes in and ice is a win.

1776
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 14: I just don't know where to go with this new

1777
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 14: England Patriots team.

1778
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 15: Well, I mean on the Raiders side, Continuity really helped

1779
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 15: him out with the whole Hoyer coming in for his

1780
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 15: second pass of the game was like a forty seven

1781
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 15: yard completion down the middle of the field. You were like,

1782
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 15: all right, this guy's done this before. But you're right,

1783
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 15: where do you go with this Patriots group? Because you're right,

1784
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 15: they have to play almost perfectly to get anything done.

1785
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 15: You thought in this offseason that all right, we bring

1786
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 15: Bill O'Brien in and that fixes the whole offensive coordinator conundrum.

1787
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 15: Whether or not they had titles, who was actually calling

1788
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 15: the players last year?

1789
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 10: That's done.

1790
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 15: There should be better. Mac Jones still has potential and

1791
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 15: he just hasn't. I blame a lot of it on

1792
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 15: the offensive line. It's been a revolving cast of characters

1793
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 15: so far. They can't get any continuity up there. Max

1794
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 15: Crosby getting that safety was a product of him feasting

1795
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 15: on the left tackle Vederian Lowe for most of the

1796
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 15: afternoon and especially in that big moment there.

1797
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 10: They just any consistency.

1798
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 15: You know me, I'm somebody who will live and die

1799
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 15: by it starts in the trenches and they are losing

1800
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 15: that battle every week on the offensive line.

1801
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 10: And you can't really do anything if your offensive line

1802
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 10: is good enough to win.

1803
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we've seen some movie parts. They've made

1804
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 4: some acquisitions.

1805
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 14: JC Jackson was out there on the field today covering

1806
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 14: DeVante Adams. There's just only so many things that you

1807
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 14: can do, especially defensively, when the offense is as the

1808
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 14: net as it was, and Max Crosby making that play.

1809
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 14: Max Crosby makes a lot of offensive lines. I look bad

1810
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 14: and I'll hop on the soapbox here real quick because

1811
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 14: I'm I'm on this flagship program. Nick we get Max

1812
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 14: Crosby gets credited for his motor a lot, and he

1813
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,879
Speaker 14: does try hard. He does play a lot of plays.

1814
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,919
Speaker 14: He is an exceptionally gifted athlete.

1815
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 10: Yes, he's not just out there, not just a try hard.

1816
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 14: Yes, his comparables athletically leading up to the draft was

1817
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 14: Javon Curse.

1818
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 4: We literally called him the freak. It's out stop it,

1819
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 4: this is.

1820
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 15: This is this is a product of anti mac bias

1821
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 15: as a mid American conference guy.

1822
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 10: Myself, this is anti mac bias. He came from Eastern Michigan.

1823
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 15: Everybody overlooked him, and now you just got to say

1824
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 15: he's a tryhard.

1825
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: No.

1826
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 15: I saw him destroy Mike Kasiki on I think it

1827
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 15: was that last sack or maybe one other play, obliterate

1828
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 15: him as he tried to get a chip, and then

1829
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 15: he just raced around the end. I mean to the

1830
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 15: point where GASICKI turned around and was like, oh my god,

1831
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 15: I can't believe I just got.

1832
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 4: Hit like that.

1833
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 10: The guy is a unit you're stood next to him.

1834
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 10: He's massive. I'm not a small person, he's massive. He

1835
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 10: makes me look tiny.

1836
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 14: Okay, Chios, Yes, absolutely, Jack Pottuh maybe and maybe Brent

1837
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 14: would be one of those people that would say he's

1838
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 14: just out there trying hard.

1839
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: He's not.

1840
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 14: The man is chiseled out of granite. He's like a

1841
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 14: freaking ass guardian. So that is a win by the Raiders.

1842
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 14: They get back on the board in the boend column

1843
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 14: against well, a whole lot of a whole lot of

1844
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 14: Raiders playing against their former team. Jacobe Myers also had

1845
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 14: a touchdown against the Patriots. More revenge themes here in

1846
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 14: week six, as Gardner Minshew's revenge game really wasn't.

1847
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 11: Ninth play of the drive here from the ten yard

1848
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 11: line of the coach, you already laid this thing twenty

1849
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 11: four to six two left, two right bigsby the running

1850
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 11: back stands to the left of Trevor Lawrence against the

1851
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 11: four man front for the Colts. Dropping is Trevor looking

1852
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 11: looking still looking fire.

1853
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 13: At the right up wide open is Brinton's range into

1854
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 13: the end zone for a touchdown.

1855
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 14: So that is the call Lawrence. The strange Frank Frangi

1856
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 14: and Jeff Lagerman of WOKV as the Jags win it

1857
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 14: in Duval thirty seven to twenty. They had that touchdown

1858
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 14: from the Jags Trevor Lawrence another solid performance. Travis etn

1859
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 14: gets in the end zone. On the other side shook.

1860
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 14: It was fifty five fifty five attempts for Gardner Minshew

1861
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 14: and it just it led to more Jags pressure. This

1862
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 14: Jags defense kind of surprised and everybody playing really well

1863
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 14: the past few weeks.

1864
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 15: You take actually, if you take it look back to

1865
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 15: the second half of last season, the Jags officially started

1866
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 15: their turnaround. A lot of it was actually keyed by

1867
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 15: their defense getting big time plays intercepting opposing quarterbacks. They

1868
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 15: did it to Dak Prescott, they did it to Lamar Jackson,

1869
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 15: and a couple of comeback wins down that stretch. This

1870
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 15: is how they played again on Sunday. This is the

1871
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 15: Jags defense. I've been waiting to see whether it was

1872
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 15: still there. You know, a year ago, people didn't really

1873
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 15: like their secondary. Then by the end of the year

1874
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 15: they were like, oh, it's pretty good. They played again

1875
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 15: like it today very much so. Rayshawn Jenkins gets a pick,

1876
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 15: Darius Williams gets a pick. There was a total of

1877
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 15: three interceptions on the defensive side of the ball and

1878
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 15: a recovered fumble, the other one being Andre Cisco was

1879
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 15: the third person to get a pick, Josh Allen Force

1880
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 15: as a fumble. Gardner Minshew had a no good, very bad,

1881
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 15: awful nightmares day in the city he used to call home.

1882
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 10: He was bad, just flat out bad.

1883
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 15: He threw fifty five passes because they were buried in

1884
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 15: a twenty five point deficit at one point. The only thing,

1885
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 15: the only concern on the Jaguar side for me is

1886
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 15: the fact that they're not quite finishing drives like you

1887
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 15: want them to. He can't be perfect, of course, but

1888
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 15: for all the takeaways they had, they could have got

1889
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 15: another trip or two into the end zone.

1890
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 10: It didn't really end up mattering.

1891
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 15: It got a little hairy in the fourth quarter when

1892
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 15: the Colts cut it to eleven, but again you're playing

1893
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 15: against Gardner Minshew, who has done enough to give the

1894
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 15: Colts a chance to win in previous appearances this year

1895
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 15: did not do that. Did the opposite of that very

1896
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 15: much lost them. This game does not help when you

1897
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 15: cannot run the ball at all. They were a very

1898
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 15: one dimensional team. They were talking about it repeatedly on

1899
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 15: the broadcast because it was just kind of sad to

1900
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 15: see that we know they have to throw not just

1901
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 15: because the deficit, but because they can't run the ball anyway.

1902
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 15: It makes me if you're trying to do not like

1903
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 15: a post mortem, but just like an almost he's an

1904
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 15: examination of where the Colts are right now. I've been

1905
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 15: very impressed by their play, but so much of it

1906
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 15: has relied on Anthony Richardson, and without him in there,

1907
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 15: they are just so less potent as an offense. They

1908
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 15: just cannot do the same things. Jane Stikeen, to his credit,

1909
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 15: is doing his best. I think he's doing a really

1910
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 15: good job of scheming things up. It's just that you

1911
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 15: are limited by a guy who was not a starter

1912
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 15: for a reason.

1913
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's even worse right when you look and

1914
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 14: you kind of annoint this with the news of the

1915
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 14: fact that maybe even longer for Anthony Richardson could be

1916
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 14: up to the end of the season before this phenomenal

1917
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 14: rookie quarterback who was playing so well part of an

1918
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 14: exciting offense.

1919
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: I mean, he's doing three sixty touchdown spikes.

1920
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 14: Everything is going spectacularly, and you can't because I know

1921
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 14: there's that ability is availability conversation. So he falls on

1922
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 14: his head. Right, everybody's got a brain. It's not you know,

1923
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 14: a brain injury is you know Tua hasn't had one

1924
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 14: this year. He had so many last year. Right, And

1925
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 14: then yeah, there's the fact that the shoulder is separated.

1926
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 14: Again it force mass acceleration like you can protect yourself.

1927
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 4: But it's so many of these things are just plain

1928
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: dumb luck.

1929
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 14: Like we saw Trent Williams almost get taken out on

1930
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 14: a guy sliding into him. Injuries can can be luck related,

1931
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 14: and it's you know, you say luck related, and we're

1932
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 14: thinking about a quarterback shoulder. But hopefully Anthony richards Yeah,

1933
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 14: I hate it though because Andrew. I wish Andrew was

1934
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 14: still playing. I hope Anthony Richardson is able to come back.

1935
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 14: Michael Pittman Junior got fourteen targets in this game. That's

1936
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 14: how he goes over one hundred yards because, as you mentioned, Nick,

1937
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,480
Speaker 14: they were just throwing.

1938
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 4: The ball a whole lot and not really getting a

1939
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 4: lot out of it.

1940
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 14: And so the Jags get another win there. And speaking

1941
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 14: of backup quarterbacks, two one and four teams went out

1942
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,440
Speaker 14: in Chicago.

1943
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 4: One actually left with their starting quarterback intact.

1944
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 5: Play action out of the shotgun.

1945
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 10: Harrison Phillip's trying to.

1946
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 6: Give him his pass back. Josh Mantela's forced the fumble.

1947
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 13: Hit down Fina Bell picked up.

1948
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: By Jordan Hicks.

1949
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 13: Forty forty is loose touchdown. Jordan Hicks, with.

1950
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: The second touchdown of his career, has run the Minnesota

1951
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Vikings to an.

1952
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 3: Eighteen to six lead.

1953
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 14: That was Jordan Hicks going to the end zone, told

1954
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 14: to you by the Paul Allen of k FA N

1955
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 14: his scoop and score. Ultimately the difference. The Vikings win

1956
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 14: it nineteen to thirteen. Tyson Bagint, the undrafted free agent rookie,

1957
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 14: comes in after Justin Fields leaves the game. They say

1958
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 14: it's a dislocated thumb on his throwing hand. X rayser negative.

1959
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 14: But they got to get into the magnetic resonance machine

1960
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 14: to do some imaging there to see the how bad

1961
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 14: that injury could be. But it's a game Nick that

1962
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 14: we thought it was gonna have so many points where

1963
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 14: defenses have struggled.

1964
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 4: It's it's a final score nineteen thirteen.

1965
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, the Vikings are a better team than

1966
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 15: the record indicates. I'm not saying they're a great team.

1967
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 15: I'm not saying that they're the team that went thirteen

1968
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 15: and four last year. Wasn't as good as record stated,

1969
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 15: But there's been some moments where I've looked at this

1970
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 15: roster and seen them play and just thought, yea, they

1971
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 15: should be winning another game or two. I mean, obviously

1972
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 15: it starts at Kirk Cousins, who has played better than

1973
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 15: their record has indicated. But I think about guys like

1974
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 15: Josh Mittelis, He's had a great year in my opinion.

1975
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 15: Every time I watch them play, I'm like, oh, there

1976
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 15: is making another play. There's still enough playmakers on that

1977
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 15: side of the ball that they should be a little

1978
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 15: bit better than they were, and they were today losing

1979
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,959
Speaker 15: justin fields obviously, you know, kind of sinks the potential

1980
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 15: of this game. But he wasn't really finding any success

1981
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 15: before he went out either, was a very frustrating first

1982
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 15: half of the Bears before he got hurt.

1983
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 10: Again, this is a team that came in with like

1984
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 10: one healthy running back.

1985
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 15: Okay, everybody on their depth chart, you know, one through

1986
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 15: three was hurt. You know, Khalil Herbert on IR, a

1987
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 15: number of other guys also, Roshann Johnson not available, You know,

1988
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 15: do you just keep going down the list until you

1989
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 15: get down to who had to be? Devan Deontay Foreman.

1990
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 15: It's it was a kind of a mash unit of

1991
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 15: a game. You know, we're gonna play backups, We're gonna

1992
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 15: put things together and see how it goes. You just

1993
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 15: didn't think it was gonna affect their best player on offense,

1994
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 15: which is their quarterback. Kind of a disappointing outcome for them,

1995
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 15: just because you felt like they were putting it together

1996
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 15: in the last two weeks. Did they only get one

1997
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,560
Speaker 15: win to show for it? Yeah, and you felt like

1998
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 15: against a.

1999
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 10: Team like Minnesota they should play better than they did.

2000
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 15: But this is a weird league, and sometimes you get

2001
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 15: outcomes like this where you sit back and you think,

2002
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 15: how did that game end? Nineteen to thirteen? How did

2003
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 15: Kirk Cousins only throw for one hundred and eighty one yards?

2004
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 15: They scored nineteen points and the Alexander Madison was their

2005
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 15: leading rusher with eighteen attempts for forty four yards, Like, what's.

2006
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 10: Going on here?

2007
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 7: No?

2008
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 15: Justin Jefferson, By the way, that takes away a lot

2009
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 15: of the power on their offense too, So credits to

2010
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 15: the Vikings. Good win for you. Fun fact, though today,

2011
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 15: I bet you we wouldn't have guessed this. This is

2012
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 15: not an our Bingo card Entering the season. Tyson Badgin

2013
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 15: and PJ Walker, who were both on the Bears preseason roster,

2014
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 15: both played in a game today.

2015
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 10: Think about that.

2016
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 4: It's a quarterback factory in Chicago.

2017
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Speaker 14: As Nate Peterman leaves the team and he's ultimately gonna

2018
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 14: be back, We're gonna have to wait and see just

2019
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 14: how lengthy this injury to Justin Fields is. Again, did

2020
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 14: the thumb on your throwing hand? Definitely gonna be crucial.

2021
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 14: It's the only thing that separates us from primates is

2022
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 14: having that opposable thumb, and so it's it's gonna be tough.

2023
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 14: And I don't even know if that's ultimately true. It's

2024
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 14: it's been a long Sunday.

2025
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 10: Who knows you're better than me? I didn't do well

2026
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 10: in science.

2027
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 14: The Vikings maybe Bears, Yeah, separates us from Bears, not

2028
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 14: the Primates. The Primates got all the digits they can do.

2029
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 14: The Vikings get that when they are now.

2030
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 4: Two and four on the season.

2031
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 14: As we leave there and get to our next matchup,

2032
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 14: the Washington Commanders taking a trip to Atlanta.

2033
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 16: Thirty one seconds to go fourth quarter here twenty four

2034
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 16: to sixteen, third and one play for the Falcons. They

2035
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 16: just burn their final time out. They're at the thirty

2036
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 16: four empty backfield for Ritter gets the step, Washington breaks

2037
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 16: four steps up, throws.

2038
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 8: All I picked up like Jayda gate as unbelievable.

2039
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 4: Jayda Jamas jumped around.

2040
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 8: Third pick of the half, and Washington is gonna win

2041
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 8: in Atlanta.

2042
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 14: Okay, so those of you who did not see the game,

2043
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 14: this was the Arthur Smith reaction absolute festival three second

2044
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 14: half turnovers interceptions by Desmond Ridder that was called by

2045
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 14: Bram Weinstein and London Fletcher on wb IG as the

2046
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 14: Commanders get a twenty four to sixteen win. It's twenty

2047
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 14: four to sixteen Nick. The Falcons are on the Commander's

2048
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 14: side of the field. They turned the ball over three

2049
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 14: consecutive times, one right before the two minute warning. Once

2050
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 14: right there where it's the rookie phenom Bjon Robinson matched

2051
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 14: up against Jame and Davis. He doesn't flatten too the

2052
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 14: line of scrimmage. He lets the linebacker cut underneath him.

2053
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 14: Turnover fest towards the end as the Falcons fall at home.

2054
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 15: There's a couple of ways you can look at this,

2055
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 15: because you could say, well, Desien Riddard back to how

2056
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 15: he was in London, you know, had one good game

2057
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 15: in between. Or you could say that Washington's defense figured

2058
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 15: it out again Jami and Davis. What was his comp

2059
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 15: coming out of college? Shack Leonard? Who did he play

2060
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 15: like on that play there? Shaq Leonard. The shout out

2061
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 15: to Daniel Jeremiah for that comp. That was his guy

2062
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 15: way back during that draft process. But the thing is

2063
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 15: is the Falcons did not well at home for I

2064
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 15: think the first time this year. Doesn't Ritter did not

2065
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 15: play well at home for the first time this year.

2066
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 10: Three picks. It's about as up and down as it gets.

2067
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 15: The one thing you could bank on was when he

2068
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 15: was at home, he usually played better than he did

2069
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 15: on the road. And then, of course we find out

2070
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 15: that that's no longer the case. It's no longer the.

2071
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 10: Rule with this team.

2072
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 15: It's an interesting kind of examination of this game. If

2073
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 15: you look back at this and think, well, they were

2074
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 15: up twenty four to ten, you know, early third, they're

2075
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 15: up twenty four to sixteen to fourth, and then nobody

2076
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 15: on either side scores, yet.

2077
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 10: Sam Hall had three touchdown passes on the day. What

2078
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 10: happened here?

2079
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,480
Speaker 15: Well, these are two teams that I think are similarly mystifying,

2080
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 15: because Patrick, the Falcons probably shouldn't be as good as

2081
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 15: three and three indicates, and the Commanders could probably be

2082
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 15: a win better than their record indicates. Right now, it

2083
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 15: felt like two similar teams but in very much different

2084
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 15: respects doing qb in next All year, I've had Sam

2085
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 15: Howell way ahead of Dozen Ridder. I've wanted to move

2086
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 15: Ritter up, but every time I think he's about to

2087
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 15: take that step, he takes two steps back. So the

2088
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 15: quarterback comparison is not even, but just kind of two

2089
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 15: teams that were still trying to figure out who they are.

2090
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 15: Ron rivera defensive mastermind right of the past. They gave

2091
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 15: up a ton of points to the Bears like two

2092
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 15: weeks ago. There's just no consistency for me either team

2093
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 15: right now. So it's perfect that this is how it ended.

2094
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 14: It's so confusing that because we have I have to

2095
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 14: pick these games every single week, and it's we come

2096
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 14: in and it's like, what do I do with the

2097
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 14: Atlanta Falcons? Well, yeah, and if you told me coming

2098
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 14: into this game, hey Patrick, considering the way Desmond Runner

2099
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 14: threw the ball thirty seven times. They get that win

2100
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 14: against the Houston Texans, and it's like, Okay, it'll take

2101
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,799
Speaker 14: three Desmond Ritter interceptions on three consecutive second half drives

2102
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 14: on the commander's side of the field. I'd be like, Okay,

2103
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 14: he's not going to play like that again. No, he did,

2104
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 14: and that's what's so confusing. Kyle Pitts scores. Drake London's

2105
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 14: getting nine catches at one hundred and twenty five yards

2106
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 14: and it's like, yeah, Falcons, but.

2107
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 4: They still find a way to lose. It's very confusing.

2108
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 14: Brian Robinson gets thirty one yards on the ground, He

2109
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 14: has a touchdown from Sam Howell where you know, he

2110
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 14: shows that he can be a powerful, explosive runner. It

2111
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 14: kind of seems like the Antonio Gibson days are over.

2112
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 14: Uh he only got three.

2113
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 10: It seemed like that for like a year though.

2114
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 4: But anybody who was.

2115
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 14: Holding out that last hope, right that, like me with

2116
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 14: Jalen Rager, Uh, it's it's finally it's finally over, and

2117
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 14: we're gonna continue to be confused by these teams. Until

2118
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 14: things keep going. And we've had one team that has

2119
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 14: not had the success in prime time. So let's go

2120
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 14: to Orchard Park for some Sunday night football. Giants and Bills.

2121
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 3: Be poetic justice if they scored to this head zone.

2122
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: On time play.

2123
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 3: Giants down five first and go off the warrant.

2124
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 6: Taylor over center takes the stat back love to back

2125
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 6: the hands of Waller incomplete, and.

2126
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 14: That is how the ball game ended. In New York

2127
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 14: and Upstate New York. The Bill survive and producer Eric

2128
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 14: Can let out a sigh of relief as his Buffalo

2129
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 14: Bills hold off Tyrod Taylor and the New York Giants

2130
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 14: at the goal line. Final score fourteen to nine in

2131
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 14: a game where Saquon Barkley finally got going to the

2132
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 14: second half three point nine yards per carry, but ultimately

2133
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 14: Nick Schuk Josh Allen had an opportunity to make the play,

2134
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 14: and he made the play to a man who has

2135
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 14: not been targeted all season on an absolute laser beam

2136
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,480
Speaker 14: to Quintin Morris.

2137
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 15: We talked about anti mac bias earlier in the show. Well,

2138
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 15: here's another Max standout from Bowling Green. Quinton Morris makes

2139
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 15: the biggest catch of the game in the tightest window possible,

2140
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 15: Josh Allen getting outside of the pocket, getting busy with it,

2141
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 15: you know, getting a little bit adventurous, if you will,

2142
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 15: outside of the pocket, extending plays as he did for

2143
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 15: much of the second half.

2144
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 10: And that time from the side angle, it looked like

2145
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 10: he was throwing a.

2146
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 15: Pick, and then we saw the skycam the end zone

2147
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 15: angle and realized, no, it was just a very narrow window.

2148
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 15: It capped off a couple of long drives for the Bills.

2149
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 15: You know, we talked earlier in the show about how

2150
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 15: things were difficult for the Patriots.

2151
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 10: Everything was hard for them offensively.

2152
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 15: Everything was hard for the Bills offensively on Sunday Night,

2153
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 15: including their touchdown drives. But methodical was the way to

2154
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 15: go for them because it's what produced points for them

2155
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 15: and allowed them to take the lead in the game

2156
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 15: that we thought we'd probably see a lot of points

2157
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 15: out of the Bills, and we just didn't. You know,

2158
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 15: Josh Allen didn't look like himself in the first half.

2159
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 15: But luckily for them, they figured it out, they found it,

2160
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 15: and they were able to hang on for a narrow

2161
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 15: victory over a team that probably most everybody thought they

2162
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 15: would blow out.

2163
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, and huge credit kudos goes to Wink Martindale squad.

2164
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 14: The defense really gave Buffalo all kinds of problems throughout

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Speaker 14: the game. The lingering memory that so many people are

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Speaker 14: going to have is the last forty seconds of the

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Speaker 14: first half where Buffalo is they get a stop, there's

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Speaker 14: a first down, and then inexplicably like twelve second run

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Speaker 14: off the clock before Brian day Ball calls what would

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Speaker 14: be the final timeout, and then they get down to

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Speaker 14: the one yard line and Tyrod checks to a run play.

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Speaker 14: They don't have enough time to get the ball snapped.

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Speaker 14: After Sakuon gets tackled at the one, Brian Dabole is livid,

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Speaker 14: so livid in fact, he can't do the halftime if

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Speaker 14: the post he's still too man and ultimately you know

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Speaker 14: the points they would have won the field goals, but

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Speaker 14: you can't retroactively apply it that it's going to be

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Speaker 14: a different game. There's different scenarios, but just a crucial

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Speaker 14: time management mistake at the end of the first half

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Speaker 14: that they almost got a chance to erase at the.

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Speaker 4: End, but no play.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, Giants fans are gonna be in my

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Speaker 15: mention about this for the whole week about how well

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Speaker 15: you know if they would have put three on the board,

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Speaker 15: they would put three on the board here and they

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Speaker 15: would have done this, and that they would have won

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Speaker 15: the game.

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Speaker 10: That the same could go for the Bills.

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Speaker 15: Tyler Bass missed two field goals after coming in perfect

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Speaker 15: on the year, so you know, it goes both ways.

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Speaker 5: And I was.

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Speaker 15: Actually, you know, you could look at the whole goal

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Speaker 15: line situation one of two ways. I think because you

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Speaker 15: mentioned it. He let a lot of time run off

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Speaker 15: before calling that last time out. It's almost like he

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Speaker 15: was waiting for it to land in a perfect thirty

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Speaker 15: seconds left in the clock, which I found strange in

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Speaker 15: that moment, and then came back to bite them on

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Speaker 15: the goal line, because if you're gonna call two players,

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Speaker 15: you're gonna have the ability to check to a run.

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Speaker 15: You gotta do it with enough time otherwise you don't

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Speaker 15: make that a possibility.

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Speaker 10: And yet they did.

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Speaker 15: Tyrod did it, and then of course his coach is

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01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 15: mad at him because it didn't work. If it does work,

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01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 15: then they're praising him. So you know, that's the perils

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01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 15: of playing quarterback.

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Speaker 10: In the NFL. I suppose in that situation, But it.

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Speaker 15: Would have been fitting. You're right, it would have been

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Speaker 15: fitting if they would have scored in that exact same

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01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 15: situation there and untimed down to end the game. Could

2212
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Speaker 15: have been PI on Taron Johnson, wasn't, but could have

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01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 15: been PI got PI. The play before that was very

2214
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 15: clearly PI on Terrell Bernard. But you're not gonna get

2215
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 15: that flag twice. I think in that's an arrow. They're gonna,

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01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 15: you know, keep those in their pockets. So good on

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01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 15: the officials. I guess they're a thrilling game that we

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01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 15: didn't think would be thrilling. Kind of an ugly game,

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01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 15: but again, fun games don't always have to be the prettiest.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And ultimately the lingering memory besides the the goal line,

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01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 14: and you have to wonder if Brian Dable had not

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01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 14: lost his mind after that play, if Tyrod comes into

2223
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 14: that final play feeling a little more empowered to change things,

2224
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 14: then maybe he could have gotten into a different situation.

2225
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 14: Either way, Taron Johnson had an entire fist full of

2226
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 14: darrin Paula's jersey. It was very clear on the replay,

2227
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 14: but no flag, no call. The Giants lose yet again

2228
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 14: on primetime. We get a little bit of a prime

2229
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 14: time reprieve from the Giants, but a feisty performance from them.

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01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 15: Nonetheless, Yeah, you know, and I think this is going

2231
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 15: to opening It's going to open an interesting can of worms,

2232
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 15: I think regarding the Giants. And this of course is

2233
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 15: directly tied to whether Danial Jones can play in the

2234
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 15: next week. But because of the way they looked on

2235
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 15: offense tonight. Now granted they only put nine points on

2236
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 15: the board, but you have to admit they looked better

2237
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 15: on offense in this game than they have in the

2238
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 15: last three weeks. And that is undoubtedly going to come

2239
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 15: back to the quarterback. There are some people who are

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Speaker 15: going to say Tyrod's your better option. That's obviously not

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01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 15: going to be what they do because Daniel Jones is

2242
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 15: making forty million dollars a year. But it is an

2243
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 15: interesting comparison. It's not apples to apples necessarily, but it

2244
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 15: is an interesting way to look at it and think,

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01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 15: you know, is Daniel Jones like really capable of doing

2246
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 15: it with this team? Now there's were some changes in

2247
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 15: important factors around him. Right Justin Pugh comes from, as

2248
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 15: he said, straight off the couch in the intros to

2249
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 15: Sunday Night Football, comes in and plays really well on

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01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 15: the offensive line and kind of helped them shore things

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01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 15: up a little bit. As you said, they were able

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01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 15: to get the running game going in the second half.

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01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 15: It was funny they showed a stat I think sae

2254
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,600
Speaker 15: Quon Barkley had eighteen carries for thirty two yards at

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Speaker 15: one point.

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01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 10: I ended up tripling that total by the time the

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01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 10: night was over.

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01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 15: I have to go back to Brian Dable in the

2259
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 15: way that he kind of operated, you know, this offense

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01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 15: and key moments because they were gashing them on the

2261
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 15: ground late in the game, and then all of a sudden,

2262
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 15: when they're on the doorstep of the end zone once again,

2263
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 15: he goes to like three straight passes and they end

2264
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 15: up settling for a field goal. That touchdown could be

2265
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 15: a difference in such a tight game. I think they're

2266
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 15: going to look back on this and number one, they're

2267
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 15: going to look at that last sequence right before half

2268
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 15: and want to change that. But there's some other areas

2269
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 15: where they're going to look back and say, you know,

2270
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 15: I wish I would have coached better here. I wish

2271
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 15: we would have done better here, because there were some

2272
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 15: opportunities left out on the field.

2273
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Speaker 10: And they're one in five.

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Speaker 15: Now, I hate to say it, because I don't think

2275
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 15: they're a very good team, but I do think that

2276
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 15: they're better than one in five, and it's kind of

2277
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 15: a bummer for them.

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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, a struggle for them. Up next for the Buffalo Bills,

2279
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 14: they visit the New England Patriots. And as for the Giants,

2280
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 14: a little reprieve, a little time off to think about

2281
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 14: what all went wrong, and maybe Brian Dave Bulgan calm down,

2282
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 14: have some herbal tea, do an interview, finally talk as

2283
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 14: he's at postgame right now. We'll see how incensed coaches

2284
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 14: at the first half scenario. The Giants fall, as Nick

2285
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 14: Schuk said, and that wraps up a Sunday, a fun upset,

2286
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 14: full Sunday that didn't finish with the upset as the

2287
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 14: Giants could not knock off the Buffalo Bills, but the

2288
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 14: Browns knock off the forty nine ers, the Jets knock

2289
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 14: off the Eagles. Topsy turf. Every fan base thinks that

2290
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 14: their team is horrible. They're gonna have to shell the

2291
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 14: entire roster and start over. You're lingering thoughts on this

2292
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 14: week six Sunday.

2293
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 10: Nick a lot of upsets.

2294
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 15: As somebody who picked the Eagles to beat the Jets

2295
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 15: and the Niners to beat the Browns, I was pleasantly surprised.

2296
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 15: It goes back to the one thing I came down

2297
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 15: to today after the Jets beat the Eagles was, God,

2298
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 15: we got to be really close to finishing off that

2299
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 15: parody circle for the year. I'm pretty sure we're pretty close. Like, somebody,

2300
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 15: get the graphics going, start tracking records, let's get that

2301
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 15: thing done.

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Speaker 10: Week six would be one of the earliest.

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01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 15: Points in the year. But that's the NFL, man, It's

2304
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 15: the beauty of it. It's manufactured parody. It's what keeps

2305
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 15: people coming back, and it's what makes days like today

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01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 15: as exciting as ever.

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01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, the transit of property. And again, if college football

2308
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 14: fans are new to the NFL and they used to

2309
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 14: college football discourse, the NFC West is terrible. They've got

2310
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 14: losses to another division and when you do the math,

2311
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 14: it's just division is two weak. You know the forty

2312
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 14: nine ers are bad?

2313
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 15: Now, well, yeah, one of the BCS points looking like

2314
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 15: for the forty nine ers it's two thousand and four. Again,

2315
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 15: I need to figure out whether Jason why it's worthy

2316
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 15: of the heisman or.

2317
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 14: Not Jason White, the answer is no, he was never worthy.

2318
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 10: He still isn't.

2319
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 14: We're humbled that you guys think we're worthy enough to

2320
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 14: listen to us on this flagship program. I want to

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01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 14: want to shout out, of course, all the guys, we're

2322
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 14: finishing things up. I'm a home U but no small

2323
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 14: thought to be able to uh, at least have one

2324
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 14: part of hosting. One part of the show from the

2325
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 14: Chris Westling podcast studio and.

2326
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 10: The other part from where your Scott wreck is in

2327
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 10: your garage.

2328
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 4: You know we're in the garage.

2329
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 15: Look, I always get the heat for lifting weights, but

2330
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 15: let's direct some of this to you right now.

2331
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 10: Because you literally have one right behind you. You know,

2332
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 10: we'll just get that in there for you.

2333
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 4: It is Oh we got that?

2334
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 1: Hear that?

2335
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know that was made for me. That

2336
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 14: guy's setting off all kinds of lunk alarms. No, no,

2337
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 14: these are these are these are bad reps.

2338
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 4: No what what what? Yeah?

2339
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 14: They got to get you a better weightless thing drop

2340
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 14: than that. We're gonna have to actually have you pounded

2341
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 14: some some more. But the work's not done for Nick

2342
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 14: Shook because he's right back doing the Monday night episode

2343
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 14: of the Around the NFL Podcast, Jane Slater stepping in.

2344
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 4: Little Cowboys Chargers fired up for that one. It's the

2345
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore Mike McCarthy revenge game. Nick, you're feeling good

2346
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 4: about that?

2347
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm very excited about that because so far the

2348
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 15: Mike McCarthy play calling experience has been very up and

2349
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 15: down for the Cowboys, and meanwhile, the Charges have been steady.

2350
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 15: They haven't been super explosive, but they've been steady. I

2351
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 15: love a little animosity. I can't wait for their midfield handshake,

2352
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 15: even though Kellen Moore is not a head coach and

2353
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 15: may not even be on the field and will be

2354
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 15: in the booth instead.

2355
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 10: Stay tuned find out.

2356
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 14: I can't wait because again, there can be only one

2357
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 14: good team every team. At the end of this year,

2358
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 14: somebody's gonna hoist the trophy and everybody else is bad

2359
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 14: and done a horrible, terrible That's just the way things go.

2360
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 14: For Nick Shook, I'm Patrick Claybon. Thanks for listening in

2361
01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 14: to a globe spanning flagship episode of the Around the

2362
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 14: NFL Podcast. Nick and Jane Slater will see you guys

2363
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 14: on Monday