1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Here we go our two and a Tuesday. Patriots hammer 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: the Giants last night. Thirty points in the first half. 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, next hour, Nick Wright five minutes. Well, we 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: do it every Tuesday. We ranked the teams top ten. 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: They are not the standing, but there are teams that 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: today are better, maybe because they got healthier. Houston they 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: got a trade to Cowboys. So right now, all things considered, 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: here are my top ten teams. 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Heard Hierarchy times. Now go the top ten NFL teams 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: according to College Number ten. 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Listen. I don't like their red zone offense, but Houston 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Texans four game winning streak, best defense, excellent head coach. 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: They shut people down opposing quarterbacks this year. I've a 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: passer rating of seventy four. That's a bad backup quarterback. 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? They're in every game. They're 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: in absolutely every game. I'm telling you they play Kansas 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: City this week, Kansas City has to win. I would 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: not want to play them. They play at a different 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: speed Defensively, Nine times this year teams have scored fewer 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: than twenty points in an offensive league that's never had 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: better offensive coaching. Houston at ten, number nine. Philadelphia. I'm 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: tired of saying I love their general manager. They lead 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: the NFL in three and outs. They're near the hop 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: in punts. I mean, Saquon Barkley is thirty ninth in 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: the league in yards per carry. And I don't think 33 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: this staff, this coaching staff can fix it in season 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur fixed the Packers broken offense in season. 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean they have a twenty second ranked rushing offense 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurt, Saquon Barkley in a good old line. 37 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to put him. Maybe I'm 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: being complimentary putting Philadelphia at nine, number eight, and Dallas 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: just beat him. I'm sorry. Since they got Quinn Williams 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: and Logan Wilson, they're three to zero. Their quarterback pressure 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: rate was top three, and it's improved thirty five percent. 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Since they got Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark and now 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Demarvin Overshown is healthy. Just trust your eyes. They are 44 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. They're doing a better job of 45 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: protecting theirs. And Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens they're both 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: number ones and now they run the ball. So I mean, 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: I say what you want right now that Alice Cowboys 48 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: are a top ten team in the NFL, and I'm 49 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: going to take them to beat Detroit Thursday, number. 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Eight, number seven. 51 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Well, the Bears lead the NFL and takeaways. They're running 52 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: the heck out of the ball. Caleb williams inaccuracy is 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: an issue should be noted, though he's actually been very 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: good on third down. His passer ratings over one hundred 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: on third down, and they're listen. Ben Johnson's got a 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan feel to him. He's gonna run the ball forty 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: seven times. He doesn't care, so they have an identity. 58 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: They take the ball away. Caleb Williams is good on 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: third down and in the fourth quarter. Still has some 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: work to do, but I like any team that is 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: a physical team. In December and January and the Bears 62 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: are number six. Buffalo now, the turnovers have increased. Multiple 63 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: giveaways in four straight games is a problem, and they 64 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: can't defend the run, which will be there undoing in January. 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: But Josh Allen right now is the quarterback in the league. 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Despite not having a dominant receiving corps, they're number two 67 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: in big plays and they're running the football. So again, 68 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: their ability to run the football tells me they'll win 69 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a playoff game and maybe two. Number five Seattle turned 70 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: the sound down. 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: They just look different. 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they've outgained every opponent in eleven games. They 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: are fast, they are physical. One of five teams without 74 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: back to back losses. I mean Sam Darnold did not 75 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: play well this week and they shut out a team 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: twenty six nothing. He threw four picks and they almost 77 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: beat the Rams in LA. They got a lot of 78 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: talent defense, back to back games with four sacks. Young 79 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: defensive coach who is current, who has pivoted multiple times. 80 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: I like Seattle got him at five. Number four Denver, 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I moved him down. Nine game winning streak, but it's 82 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: a lot of one score games and they could have 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: lost to Washington. They have trailed in all twelve games 84 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: this season. I mean, if you told me a high 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: seed lost in the first round of the playoffs, I 86 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: think we'd all go Denver. I just don't think their 87 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: offense is even enough. There are time like this week 88 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: when Washington moved the ball up and down the field. 89 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: That's troubling you. Hope it's just a one off. The 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Rams played. Their defense stunk this week, and I have 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Denver at four number three. I may have green Bay low. 92 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: I have them at three, three game winning streak, all 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: by a touchdown or more. Jordan love folks. We got 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: to stop wondering if Jordan loves good. The answer is yes, 95 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: big tall arm doesn't throw picks. And now they get 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Jayden reidback. Now they got Micah so they have their 97 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: closer when they have a lead. Now they're getting Matthew 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: Golden back. Green Bay is a super Bowl team, and 99 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: they were broken offensively three weeks ago. But these young, 100 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: smart offensive coaches like that Lafloor can fix problems in season. 101 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: Defensive coaches, I mean, how many years, Mike Tom I'm 102 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: going to struggle to fix the old line in the 103 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: run game in Pittsburgh. Green Bay at three number two. 104 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: Rams had a bad week. Points allowed giveaways. They were 105 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: a mess, but they are the least penalized team in 106 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Highest graded overall team offense and defense. They 107 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: only allow seventeen a game. They had a stinker. They 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: went out East. They didn't play well, but you can 109 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball on them if your offensive line can 110 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: hold up. Mac Jones did, I mean Bryce Young did? 111 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: So? 112 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: I have them at two number one. I'm gonna put 113 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: in New England one. Listen. I watched them go to 114 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo and win. I watched them go to Tampa and win. 115 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Fifth time they've scored thirty plus points. They're incredibly sound, 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: great on special teams. I said it earlier. It's very 117 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: reminiscent of the Belichick Brady stuff, with a more mobile 118 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: quarterback and a player friendly coach. What don't they do 119 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: really well? They don't run the football particularly well well. 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have won Super Bowls in years, so they 121 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: don't run it well. Again. They lead the NFL in 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: big plays. You don't get any cheap touchdowns. They tackle well. 123 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Special teams are great. Fifth game this year they've held 124 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: an opponent to fifteen points or fewer. So I don't 125 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm supposed to do. 126 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: With them. 127 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: You keep telling me. Listen, what am I supposed to do? 128 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: With Denver? They keep winning? What am I supposed to do? 129 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Last night? They got thirty in the first half with 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a backup left tackle. They can't run the ball a 131 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: backup left guard. 132 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: I got. 133 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: New England won, Nick Wright. First things first is joining us. 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm so incredulous. I don't know 135 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: what to do with New England. I thought about putting 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay one or the Ram. 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes more sense. Okay, Okay, I mean, I 138 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: mean this is here. Listen. 139 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: Far be it from me to critique, but I will 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 6: just for a moment. Whenever you're rationale. You do this 141 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 6: about twice a year. You put a team number one, 142 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: and then your rationale is I don't know what to 143 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 6: do with them? 144 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Then put them like four. 145 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: Like, if you don't know what to do with them, 146 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: maybe don't give him the top spot. I am really 147 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 6: impressed by New England, and I also think big picture, 148 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 6: New England is a case study for fan bases out 149 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 6: there whose owners or front offices make excuses about how 150 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: long a rebuild takes. If you have if you ace 151 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 6: the quarterback and the coach. The rebuilds done. Now you're 152 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 6: in build. The Patriots were a train wreck for four 153 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 6: straight years. They got the right quarterback, took him a year, 154 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 6: you know, his rookie season, they got the right coach, 155 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 6: and now they are a legitimate contender. 156 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: The only my only. 157 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 6: Pushback would be I think if the Patriots were to 158 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 6: make the Super Bowl and play the Rams, Packers or Seahawks, 159 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: you'd pick the Rams, Packers or Seahawks. And if they 160 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 6: play the Bills in the playoffs, you might pick the Bills. 161 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 6: And so that's the record is great, and I don't 162 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 6: care so much about the soft schedule. I think they've 163 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 6: been very impressive. I think they're closer to right now 164 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 6: the fifth best team than the best team. But other 165 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 6: than that, Colin, listen, I'm in a bad way. This 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 6: is a hard hierarchy without the Chiefs, and I can't 167 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: even argue it, Like I can't even get mad. I mean, 168 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 6: the only the Chiefs only got mentioned during the hierarchy 169 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 6: when you're like, hey, they won super Bowls when they 170 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 6: couldn't run the ball, that's the only time. 171 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: They were even alluded to. It's sad times not dead yet. 172 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: In this wide open. AFC got a rally, but. 173 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 6: It would be it would be nice if they could get. 174 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: A stop on third and long, which they haven't all Ye. 175 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's interesting because they're not getting blown out. 176 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: They're in games. And I was talking to a friend 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: about this. I said, listen, it's there's there's not a 178 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of great I mean even Philadelphia went to Super Bowl. 179 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: We don't love the coach, right, like we don't love 180 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Jalen in the pocket, you know, Like, so there's no 181 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: the last great team, I mean, Kansas City a couple 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: of years ago was pretty damn great. The Seahawks had 183 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: a two year run where you're like, yikes, they embarrassed 184 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Why if I had a point in the 185 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: one thing and say this is why Kansas City's not 186 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: the same team, what would be defense. 187 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: Can't get off the field. I mean, the defense can't 188 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: get off. 189 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 6: So the during the last three years the Chiefs had 190 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: you know when they made. 191 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: Three straight Super Bowls. 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were number three in the NFL in third 193 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 6: and long, third and seven plus defense. 194 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Mahomes. I'm talking about spags, dials. 195 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 6: Up, a blitz gets off the field. This year, they 196 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: are the fourth worst in the league at third and 197 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 6: long defense. They have the fourth fewest turnovers forced in 198 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 6: the league. They have the sixth fewest sacks in the league. 199 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 6: So they just are unable to get an extra possession 200 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 6: or to get off the field. And that's what you 201 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: saw in Dallas. The Chiefs defense over this last four 202 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 6: years center the last three and a half years since 203 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 6: they traded Tyreek. 204 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: What it had been known for is it's. 205 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 6: Gonna let you move the ball and then there's you're 206 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 6: gonna have a first and ten where they stuff you 207 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 6: for zero yards on a run. Then all of a 208 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 6: sudden force it in completion, you're in third and ten 209 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: and spags. 210 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: Get you off the field. 211 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: They did that to the Cowboys six times, had the 212 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 6: Cowboys in third and eight or worse, and the Cowboys 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 6: just every single. 214 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: Time picked it up. 215 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 6: And so that's what has to change now This weekend 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 6: is a whole different set of issues, which is left 217 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 6: tackle Josh Simmons got his wrist broken by a teammates, 218 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 6: like on a fluke play, someone's trying to chip block 219 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: and hit him in the risk. So he's gonna be 220 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 6: out the right tackle Juwan Taylor could be out and 221 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 6: you're up against the one team in the league you 222 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 6: would least like to not have your tackles with that 223 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 6: ferocious pass rushing tennis with the Texans. With that said, 224 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 6: Colin and I think they're in for a fight for 225 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 6: their lives on Sunday night. If they win that game, 226 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: they then, in my opinion, will go into a game 227 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: against the Chargers where the winner of that game is 228 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 6: going to end up with the final playoff spot in 229 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: the AFC, because if they like, the Chargers play the 230 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 6: Philly on Monday night and then the Chiefs, the Chiefs 231 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 6: get one of the teams ahead of them on Sunday 232 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 6: and then another one ahead of them the following week. 233 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: So they're alive, but their margin of error. 234 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: Has absolutely collapsed, and they if they go undefeated, then 235 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 6: they will make the playoffs. If they go four and one, 236 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: then they probably miss unless Indy totally collapses, which it could. 237 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 6: So they're in a bad spot and they've done this 238 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 6: to themselves that Jacksonville game. They had no business losing. 239 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 6: If they win that game, the season is totally different. 240 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: But they didn't. 241 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: With all that, so all that's legit. It's not bad luck, 242 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 6: it's not bad officiating. It's just they haven't been good enough. 243 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: With that said, if they get in in this AFC field, 244 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 6: they're as scary as ever, but they got to get there, 245 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 6: and right now they're an underdog. 246 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: To get there. 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: So I was talking about Dallas earlier today. I said, 248 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: we're getting to a point that Dak is going to 249 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: lead the NFL and offense with a third head coach. 250 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: And we haven't liked any of them. At some point, 251 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: it's like he's probably you know the Culkin brothers. Macaulay 252 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Culkin was the child star. The other brother took a 253 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: while to develop. He wins an oscar later. Like some 254 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: people Samuel L. Jackson starts in a set, doesn't hit 255 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: till the nineties. Some people take longer to bake. I 256 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: was always with you, is is Dek is good? But 257 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: he's b plus. I gotta be honest, it's the best 258 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: I've ever seen him. He's in year ten, he's off 259 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: another surgery. Do we need to start having a different 260 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: conversation to be fair? I mean, Darnold developed later Baker, 261 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: but Dek. I look at Dek today and I'm like, 262 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: did I miss this badly? Was this guy inn A 263 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: plus and I had him as a B to a 264 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: B plus. I mean, where are you with Dak? 265 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 6: But no, I don't think you missed it. I think 266 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: he is steadily improved. And I think maybe you know 267 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 6: we were a touch harsh on him a couple years ago, 268 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: but I think I don't think you or I have 269 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: ever been like Dak is the problem. 270 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Dak is bad. 271 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 6: It's that is Dak going to be, you know, play 272 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: at this level, which this level is he is doing 273 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 6: what Joe Burrow did last year, which said, Okay, we're 274 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: gonna have to win games just with our offense. Obviously 275 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: the defense gotten better over his post to the Quentin 276 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: Williams trade, and he has delivered to me. I think 277 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: Stafford May after those two guys, Dak has as strong 278 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: of an argument to be on an MVP ballot as 279 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: anybody else, So I think that is legitimate. I also 280 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 6: think that the other reason there have been questions about 281 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 6: Dak is the same reason there are questions with every 282 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 6: quarterback that we think is good and we're trying to 283 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 6: figure out if they're grade, is we would like to 284 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 6: see them produce at at least the same level they 285 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 6: produced in the regular season in the postseason, and we 286 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 6: haven't seen that yet from Dak. But this year he's 287 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 6: playing the position as well as he ever has, and 288 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: he's played it at a very high level at various 289 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 6: times in the past. 290 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: I think he's been great. 291 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 6: I think the Cowboys are terrifying to play, and they 292 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 6: are going to miss the playoffs despite it. I just 293 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 6: think I think they might have dug themselves too big 294 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: of a hole. 295 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: But on any given like day. 296 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 6: Right now, if you see them on the schedule, it's 297 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: like seeing a nine to three team on your schedule. 298 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: That's the level they're playing. 299 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 6: I just don't know if in the jam packed NFC, 300 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: unless Philly full on collapses, which is on the board, 301 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: it might be too little, too late for Dallas. 302 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: So you know, the Mike Tomlin thing has been I 303 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: made a comment last week, and I thought it was 304 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: a decent one where I said this whole thing about, well, 305 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: we don't have a losing season. In the last twenty 306 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: one years, you've had sixty teams missed the playoffs who 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: were five hundred or better. It's an arbitrary stat. 308 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: Well, we didn't have. 309 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: A losing season. It doesn't matter doesn't guarantee anything. We've got, 310 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: you know you've got if you get to ten, it 311 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: feels pretty good. Eleven year in nine means nothing. But 312 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I think my bigger problem with Tomlin when I see 313 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: something that keeps happening over and over with anybody in 314 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: any business. They struggle late his high motivation, raw ross 315 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: speeches cancel out. They can't run the ball again this year. 316 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: They they work their way through coordinators, left tackles, running backs, 317 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers, quarterbacks. To me, it's a broken franchise. It 318 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: feels outdated, it's not current in an offensive league. I 319 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: think it's time and he'll get hired again like Miami, 320 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: probably higher tomorrow, will be smart. But I think it's 321 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of time with Tomlin'm seeing too many patterns over 322 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: the last six years. It's the same team every year. 323 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot there. 324 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 6: I think, first of all, you can be a great 325 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 6: coach and it'd be time to move on. Listen, Mike 326 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 6: Tomlin is an Andy Reid, but for phil he's a 327 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 6: great coach. Though, but Philadelphia was not wrong for moving 328 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 6: off Andy Reid, and the fact that Andy has had 329 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 6: this success in Kansas City doesn't mean that Philadelphia should 330 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 6: have stuck with him. It felt like Andy and Philadelphia, 331 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 6: right or wrong, had run its course. 332 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: They wanted to turn the page. And it's not. 333 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 6: Because they thought, well, this guy's a bum. They just 334 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 6: thought they needed something fresh that feels a lot like 335 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 6: what we're staring at with Pittsburgh, where I would and 336 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 6: I have massive respect for Mike Tomlin, but I also 337 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 6: don't know that Mike Tomlin can pick a quarterback or 338 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 6: that you want Mike to like. I think if I 339 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 6: were a team that I feel very confident has a 340 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 6: quarterback in place, like I'll give you a four instance. 341 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 6: If Cincinnati were to decide, you know what, three straight 342 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 6: years missing the playoffs, back to back years where the 343 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 6: defense can't get right. I know Burrow's been injured, but 344 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 6: we want a fresh start from Zach Taylor. If Mike 345 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: Tomlin's available, I'd hire him in a heartbeat. If the 346 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: Giants feel like Jackson Dart is the guy and there 347 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 6: you're not gonna have to find the quarterback. To me, 348 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 6: Tomlin's a good option Miami. I'd be squeamish about it 349 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 6: because I would feel like, man, are we going to 350 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 6: be in the same position that Pittsburgh found themselves in, 351 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 6: which is he is a floor raizer, which then means 352 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 6: we're not going to have a top pick to draft 353 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 6: a quarterback and we're gonna be on this carousel. That 354 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: would be my concern, but it does. It feels to 355 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 6: me Colin like there are a lot of Super Bowl 356 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 6: champion coaches that could be kind of coaching for their 357 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 6: jobs the final month. If I understand he is the defending. 358 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion. 359 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 6: If Philly collapses again, I would not put it past 360 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 6: Howie Roseman to make a change if they were to 361 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: go for eight and two to out of the playoffs. Yes, 362 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 6: I think how Howie Roseman has fired better coaches than 363 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 6: Nick Siriani. Baltimore misses the playoffs, or even if they 364 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 6: make it because the AFC North is bad, but they 365 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 6: go one and done in the playoffs, I think Harball's 366 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 6: got to be quite nervous. 367 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: And if Pittsburgh isn't. 368 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 6: Able to take advantage of the Ravens starting one and 369 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 6: four and Joe Burrow missing three months and they missed 370 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: the playoffs, I think Tomlin would have to be a 371 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 6: little anxious. So that's three Super Bowl champion head coaches 372 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 6: who have a lot on the line the final five 373 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 6: weeks of the season into the playoffs. 374 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Finally, you acknowledge you don't love college football like I do, 375 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: but you've always got interesting perspectives. My thing with missus 376 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: ole miss I said, Listen, if when you hired kivin 377 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: years ago, if I would have said to you, he'll 378 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: bring you your best year ever, You'll be number one 379 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: in the sport by a mile. On offense, You'll be 380 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: fascinating and talked about your greatest year ever. He will 381 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: leave you at the altar and burn you. You would say, yeah, 382 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: call take it, Shay. I tell my wife this any 383 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: time she complains about or the kids or something. I'm like, honey, 384 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: would you just signed up for your life when we 385 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: met twenty years ago, I would have you know, like, 386 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to just say, well, the worst case 387 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: scenario is we have eleven wins and we're going to 388 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: the playoff. I think old missus reaction is typical and predictable. 389 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: But LSU is a better job, is it not? 390 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 6: No, Listen, LSU is a better job. 391 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 392 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 6: I if I were in today's version of college football, 393 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: it's not as much of a better job than it 394 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: once was, and because you can level the playing field 395 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: a bit with nil. 396 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: And if I were Lane. 397 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 6: Kiffin, I might prefer the security of illness. So I 398 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 6: don't know that he'll enjoy it more, but that's for 399 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: his decision. It certainly has higher upside, is more prestigious. 400 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: Here is my I have two major take. 401 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 6: Away from this whole saga and the way it's been covered. 402 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: The first one is this. 403 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 6: Everyone understands the college football calendar is messed up. We 404 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 6: all get that, but that does that being used by 405 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 6: some folks. I'm not talking about you, because I think 406 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 6: you feel like it was just an obvious choice, but 407 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 6: folks that want to shield Kiffen from what is whatever 408 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: accountability there is for leaving these kids in the playoffs, 409 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 6: being like, it's not Laane Kiffen, adult millionaire, human being's fault, 410 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: it's this inanimate object known as the calendar's fault. 411 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: Like what could the man do with this calendar? Like 412 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: that part I don't buy. 413 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 6: And the other one, and this is you mentioned your 414 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 6: wife and kids. I'm gonna give a parenting anecdote of 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 6: my own. My youngest daughter has an amazing tendency almost 416 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 6: that if she is presented with two really good options, 417 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 6: not like go to better. 418 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: Do your homework. 419 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 6: It's like, oh, you know two things she wants to do, 420 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 6: but and she gets to pick which one. 421 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: She ends up being very. 422 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 6: Sad because even though she is picking the one she wants, 423 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 6: she can't stop but thinking about the things she didn't pick. 424 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: And that's understandable for a child. What I don't like 425 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 6: at all is the crocodile tears from Kiffin, Like, man, 426 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 6: this was so hard and I'm gonna and I'm gonna 427 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 6: miss out. Buddy, you made a choice. You had two 428 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 6: amazing options, both of which were ten plus million dollars 429 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 6: a year. Try to get a statue built of you 430 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 6: can be for national champions. Objectively speaking, you chose the 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 6: one that you thought would make you happier. 432 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: So then tell me about how sad it made you. 433 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 3: Like that. 434 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 6: That is a child thing, not an adult thing, So 435 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 6: I don't blame him for it, but I also don't 436 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 6: have a lot of sympathy for it. He's an adult 437 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: who made a choice that he thought was best for him. 438 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: He's allowed to do it. 439 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 6: And I think it'll probably. 440 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: Work in the short term. 441 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: But I don't think Lane Kiffen is someone anybody should get, 442 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 6: you know, in the business world, get married to, and 443 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 6: I think he's shown that. But see if they can 444 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 6: peel a national championship. 445 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Nick, right, First things first, good to have you back, 446 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: a little somber. But the Chiefs again, which listen, it's tough, 447 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: it is. You haven't been hit. 448 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 6: Listen, here's the deals, Colin, here's the deal. And then 449 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 6: I'll go this is the most down bat I've ever 450 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 6: been about the Chiefs or since I've been on TV. 451 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 6: And they could miss the playoffs. But I'm here to 452 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: tell you if they win Sunday night, I'm going to 453 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: be on the air Monday saying they beat the Chargers, 454 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 6: they're going back to the Super Bowl. And you might agree, 455 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 6: two wins away from being back, one loss away from 456 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 6: the season being over, but two wins away from being 457 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: all the way back. So we'll see they got a 458 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: but like beat the Texans, beat the Chargers. 459 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: The Titans aren't even a football team these days. We'll 460 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: see just two wins away. 461 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like when the Oscars have five or six, 462 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, like directors or actors, and they're all in 463 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: that box and they're gonna announce the winner, and you're 464 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: either the most famous person in the world for about 465 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: six days, or you go on to independent films and 466 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: you can get lost at the Berbuna Triangle and nobody 467 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: ever remembers you. That's what the chiefs are. It's here 468 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: we come again. 469 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 6: Oh, here we come. Or on the next season. Exactly right, 470 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: I'll see you buddy. 471 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. We are live in Chicago. 472 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 3: It's The Herd. 473 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 474 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 475 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noone Pacific. 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That was the most allowed 500 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 7: by Pittsburgh at home in fifty years. Yes, James Cook 501 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 7: cooked Colin. The last running back to run for this 502 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 7: many yards was O. J. Simpson way back. 503 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 8: In the day against the Steelers. I mean that was 504 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 8: about two or three stadiums ago. 505 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: TJ. 506 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 7: Watt was embarrassed. He got to the podium. I think 507 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 7: we touched on that yesterday. Yeah. I don't know what 508 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 7: you do. Listen, We've been on this for a couple 509 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 7: of years. You got to move off. 510 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 8: TJ. Watt. 511 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 7: Stop building around the defense. I do think the fire 512 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 7: Tomlin stuff is a bridge too far. But what do 513 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 7: you do if they missed the playoffs? Does he both 514 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 7: for the Penn State job or something crazy like that. 515 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he wants I don't think he's a 516 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: college football guy. In terms of interest, I think he'd 517 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: be great. I don't think he's wants to play that. 518 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a pro you know, I think he's 519 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: a pro guy. Again, it's just we moved off Belichick 520 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid like I just don't. I don't look 521 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: at that. I mean, Mike Frable got fired. Look at 522 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: Mike Frable right now. I don't think Mike McCarthy's got 523 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: a ring, got fire that he walked away. 524 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 7: The rebel stuff that memory serves was about the GM 525 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 7: and him were butting heads. 526 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 8: The GM traded ag bround without consulting. 527 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of discussion in Pittsburgh that there 528 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: is tension, oh between ownership and Mike because they're hearing 529 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: it from their fans. I mean, if you turn on 530 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: sports radio in Pittsburgh, Oh yeah, they're not banging on TJ. Water, 531 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They're banging on Mike Tomlin again this year. 532 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: So last year you could just say, well, Russell Wilson. 533 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Now it's it's how many years are they not going 534 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: to be able to get the on line in the 535 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: running game, right, or like on year seven or eight? 536 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 8: Yeah? 537 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: Interesting, Colin, Well, when are you going to start turning 538 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 7: the show over to the listeners, because hey, they're just 539 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 7: like fans, they're unhappy with what's going on. Then you 540 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 7: should listen to them instead. Oh you know, and I 541 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 7: text you ideas and you know, oh, I love that. 542 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 8: You should listen to these. 543 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 7: Jibbroni's online whore like coward. Why do you talk about 544 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 7: this so much? Well, that's what the dealers would do. 545 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 7: Move off, Tomlin, Are you that would be insane? 546 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, again, they haven't won a playoff game in eight years. 547 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that's totally his fault? I think he's 548 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: the coach. I mean you can you can if the 549 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: CEO has the bonuses when the stock goes up, who 550 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: are you gonna blame when Starbucks go sideways and earnings 551 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: are down. It's the guy running it. It's not the founder, 552 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: it's the CEO. 553 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 8: So that's interesting. 554 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 7: He's I think the longest tenured coach in the league 555 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 7: with the same team by like a mile. 556 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 8: So you're gonna keep this GM. 557 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 7: Why can't the GM just go and be like, Mike, 558 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 7: we're moving off this defense first strategy. Are you cool 559 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 7: with that? And at Tomlin's like no, then I think 560 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 7: you got a case but moving Also. 561 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: If you're moving off defense and you're gonna be an 562 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: offensive organization, you trust Tomlin to run it? 563 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 8: Well, wait a minute. 564 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 7: You trusted Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when things were 565 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: all awesome and they were five and nine. 566 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think this was gonna be a good I said. 567 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a playoff. I said Aaron 568 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers should go to the Vikings or retire. I never 569 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: liked that. 570 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, not you. 571 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 7: I meant like they they thought that Aaron Rodgers and 572 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 7: Arthur Smith would work, and for a. 573 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 8: Minute it did. Wow, I'm moving off Tomlin. 574 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 7: That's a huge story. Does he get a job instantly? 575 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 7: By the way, if Pittsburgh kicks him to the curb? 576 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Network TV in a heartbeat way to the whoao 577 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: hold you go to? 578 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 7: What about my New York Jets? I would move off 579 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 7: Aaron glenn In in a New York minute. If Mike 580 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 7: Tomlin's like, yeah, I'll come coach the Jets. 581 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I have no problem with Tomlin getting another job somewhere, 582 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: No problem. 583 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 7: Oh man, All right, let's go to the Chicago Bears. Colin, 584 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 7: now this listen, this is gonna be a tough one. 585 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 7: I know they're Let's start with the positive. Hey, they're 586 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 7: nine and three, number one seed in the NFC. They're 587 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 7: in your backyard. You and Ben Johnson are probably going 588 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 7: out for you know, meals this time of week, but 589 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 7: maybe you'll be shirtless like Ben. However, Caleb Williams his 590 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 7: goal was to complete seventy percent of his passes. He's 591 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: not anywhere close to that. Ben Johnson said. The streak 592 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 7: happened in spite of the offense. 593 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 8: Here we go. 594 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 7: Everybody's got a role to play to get this pass 595 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 7: game cleaned up. 596 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: It's not where it needs to be. 597 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 5: We're winning in spite of our passing game, not because 598 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: of it, and none of us are pleased with that. 599 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: Right now. 600 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 7: Now, this is a stat that's going around the innerwebs today. 601 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 7: According to quarterbacks who have started more than seven games 602 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 7: this year, Yeah, Caleb Williams is dead last in the NFL, 603 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 7: and completion percentage dead last fifty eight percent. That's below 604 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 7: cam Ward, that's below Dylan Gabriel. 605 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: Now it's clearly an issue. Like nobody, you have to 606 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge the good stuff, but he is not accurate enough. 607 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, listen, He's got much better weapons, 608 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: and I would argue a better old line and a 609 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: run game than Drake May. Drake May is completing seventy 610 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: one percent. Patriots can't run it. Oline had two starters 611 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: missing left side, don't have a number one. Diggs is 612 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: more number two now and he's completing the highest rate 613 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: in the league. I'm not asking you to be that. 614 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: You got to get the sixty two or sixty three percent. 615 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: You got to get up. Fifty eight is a backup 616 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: quarterback and not a great backup. 617 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 8: I'm looking at someone. 618 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 7: Like bo Nix is at sixty one, right, So I 619 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 7: would totally agree. So here's my question, can can Caleb 620 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 7: make the lead? Remember Josh Allen the first couple of 621 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 7: years in Buffalo. Everybody uses this example. 622 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I think I think he can get better, But I 623 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: the knock I heard from the GMS who liked him. 624 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: He's erratic throwing the ball. He's like a streak shooter 625 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: in basketball. Those from the people that liked him. The 626 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: ones that didn't like him said, little Moody a little 627 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: bit of an ego. Don't like his accuracy. The ones 628 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that liked him noted his lack of consistent accuracy. 629 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 7: What's the ceiling for a team where the quarterback is 630 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 7: dead last in the league in completion percentage? 631 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: You can make the playoffs, especially when you're run like 632 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: they do. But you're not gonna remember eventually he'll get paid, 633 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: and when you pay him that you're gonna have to 634 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: get rid of multi Joe Tooney not gonna be on 635 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: the team, or a DJ Moore if you have to 636 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: ever pay guys you love. 637 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 8: To be forward thinking, Colin, what do the Bears do? 638 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 7: At what point do you say, you know what, He's 639 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 7: not going to be a sixty five percent completion guy. 640 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let the season play out. Let's you 641 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: win a couple of playoff games. Life will be really. 642 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 8: Good because it's fun spitballing. 643 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 7: Who Ben Johnson could work with as a quarterback in Chicago? 644 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 7: A couple guys out there, you know there's a certain 645 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 7: fella in Texas who does not love Houston. But let's 646 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 7: let's move on Sorry to the Houston Texas fans. Final story, Colin, 647 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 7: not really great news out of Indy. Sauce Gardner went 648 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: down and they're calling it not an achilles but a 649 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 7: calf injury. Calf injuries are very nettlesome. They can turn 650 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 7: into Achilles injuries. It sounds like they're going to be 651 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 7: very cautious with sauce Gardner and he's unlikely to go 652 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 7: against the Jags this week. I mentioned this earlier in 653 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 7: the show. Colin talked about it on my podcast. There's 654 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 7: a world where the Colts missed the playoffs. Okay, that 655 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 7: division's tough. The schedule for Indy is really brutal, and 656 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, remember that sauce gardnered. 657 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 8: You always like, oh, Jets'll get picked late in the 658 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 8: first round. 659 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 7: If Indy misses that pick becomes like eighteen or nineteen, 660 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 7: this is this is not good for sauce. 661 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 8: Gardner and the Colts. 662 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they roll the dice. Daniel Jones was 663 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: playing better. They were going into a stretch, five game 664 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: stretch of facing a lot of teams with really good 665 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: number one receivers. I understood it, and I also thought 666 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones had kind of reached a point where you 667 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: could be a consistent playoff team. He has regressed. So 668 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's Chris Ballard took a swing. I always 669 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: back that, but right now look good for a week 670 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: or two, doesn't look good today. Let's let it play out. 671 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 8: And I'll add the Colts. 672 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 7: I wonder if they made this move because Stingley's so 673 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 7: good with the Texans. Did you see that he was 674 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 7: only targeted. I think he was on like he was 675 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 7: on the field a lot. He was targeted once by 676 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 7: the Colts. That's one target. He's that good sauce could 677 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 7: have been that guy for Indy. But I don't even 678 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 7: know if he's gonna return this season. They're saying no 679 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 7: ir for now, which is potential goodness. 680 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: Jmckle the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for 681 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: stopping by the. 682 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Herd Line news. 683 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin already making news in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. 684 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 685 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: in noon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 686 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 687 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 7: This holiday season, Fox Sports and Purple Heart Homes are 688 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 7: teaming up to provide housing solutions for our nation's aging 689 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 7: and disabled veterans through the Hearts for the Holidays campaign 690 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 7: to learn how you can help. 691 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 8: Scan the QR code or visit go. 692 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 7: Dot fox slash Purple Heart Homes. 693 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I you know, it's really interesting about Lane Kiffin. 694 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: So I've always said this. Not every relationship I get 695 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: involved with his long term, not all of them end well. 696 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: But I made the choice. I knowingly made the choice 697 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: with any relationship I'm in. I vet everybody so old 698 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: miss is either dumb or naive if they thought hiring 699 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen couldn't end this way. You knew his track record, 700 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Saban's like get out of here. USC fired him on 701 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: a tarmac Tennessee. He bolts after a year, so you're 702 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: either totally naive or childish run into airport screaming. I mean, 703 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: I get at their kids, a couple hot toddies in 704 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: but you got to give me a break here. It's 705 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: a better job. Lane Kiffen is a coach for hire, 706 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: have resume, have film, have recruiting talent, and that's what 707 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: he does. So I don't have a lot of sympathy. 708 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: You knowingly either didn't do your homework on him and 709 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: I know Lane, I like him, but I don't think 710 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: he's for everybody. And you know, right now, I think 711 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: LSU's paying three different coaches. Do your homework. They did. 712 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: LSU is comfortable with it, LSU saying, we know we 713 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: got some paperwork here if we fire him. LSU is 714 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of desperate. Lane Kiffin I think actually wanted to 715 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: go to Florida. His I mean, I really do. I 716 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: think his wife is from there. But Florida's athletic director, who, 717 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: by the way, I recommended for the USC job five 718 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: years ago, I think he was in Northwestern. Florida's AD 719 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really like Kiffin. So Florida could have had Kiffin, 720 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: and Florida could have had Kiffin in a better resume 721 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: than who they hired. But Florida said, we're not comfortable 722 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: with Lane. LSU said, we are comfortable with Lane. Old 723 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: miss said, we are comfortable with Lane. Don't tell me. 724 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're getting. Florida's ad who's probably 725 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: the best first or second guy BAM is great first 726 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: or second best AD in the SEC. So it's the 727 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: guy at Texas. Okay, it's a good ad conference. Florida 728 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: can have Kiffin Kiffin. I think would have preferred Florida. 729 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: They're like, eh, he's not our we don't want that drama. 730 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Ole Miss and LSU signed up for it. No sympathy. 731 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin yesterday on if money was a factor going 732 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: to LSU. 733 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm never going to make a decision on money. 734 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 5: And I'm telling you right now, I don't know what 735 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 5: my contract is here. That's not very financially responsible. Okay, 736 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 5: sure it's really good. Okay, I don't know what it is, 737 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 5: nor did I know what the other place is what 738 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 5: the numbers were, because I said in the beginning, I 739 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 5: told Jimmy Sexton, don't tell me the numbers. Okay, I 740 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 5: want to make a decision that has nothing to do 741 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 5: with money. Now tell me the numbers in the place 742 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 5: for what the money is for the players, because that's 743 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 5: everything in that area to me. 744 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right by the way, he's saying all the 745 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: right stuff. But you know, don't marry the rock star 746 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: and then be upset when he goes Yeah, honey, I 747 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: gotta go on the road for a tour for six months. 748 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: You knew what you were marrying. So did old Miss, 749 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: So does LSU. And Florida could have had Kiffin and 750 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: they're ad who's really sharp, Like, I don't want the drama, 751 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: because you do get drama with him. I think he's 752 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: going to succeed. I think it's gonna be a home run. 753 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I love college football. It won't take long. 754 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: In fact, he'll do it quicker than Brian Kelly did 755 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: it Notre Dame, and quicker than harbaughd did a Michigan. 756 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: Not because he's a better coach, because LSU is just 757 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: in this geographical footprint Louisiana, Bama, Georgia, Florida. They're gonna sign. 758 00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there is so much unbel believable high school 759 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: football talent in that area. And the other thing Kiffin said, 760 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: he goes this is the best job in college football. 761 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: I will tell you a lot of people think that. 762 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: I have talked to multiple coaches. Brian Kelly knew he 763 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to go down to Baton Rouge. That's not 764 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: where he's from. Brian Kelly knew he wanted to golf 765 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: and not recruit. Brian Kelly went down there because he 766 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: thought he could put in forty five hour weeks and 767 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: win a Natty. And you can't. You just can't. But 768 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly knew it wasn't a great fit. Brian Kelly's like, 769 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. Lane kiffn is a great recruiter. 770 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly at this point, isn't Lane Kifvin. I think 771 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: is a better offensive coach than Brian Kelly. I think 772 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna crush and I like it. He's fun to 773 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: be around. He's got great stories, good sense of humor. 774 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: I know his wife, don't know his kids. He's smart 775 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: enough to say all the right stuff, and he is right. 776 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: It's all about what kind of roster can you build. 777 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: But I don't have a lot of sympathy for people 778 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: who marry people with a very clear track record. I mean, 779 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: one thing, you know, you marry the pastor and it 780 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: goes sideways, you know, I mean, you know you marry 781 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: you marry somebody that has a track record of just uh, 782 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, oh, this is the nicest guy in the neighborhood, 783 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: and then you know he's out flandering around that. You know, 784 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: some of these coaches, we all know the game. We 785 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: all know the game. I love Saban. Saban said, I 786 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know how many times I have to tell you 787 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm not taking the Alabama job. 788 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: That was his quote. 789 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: All right, Jim Harbaugh's around the corner. That's always fun.