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Speaker 2: In one hour or thereabouts, we're gonna hear from the

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Speaker 2: Eli County DA George Gascone. He's called the news conference

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Speaker 2: to announce the charges against the man accused of killing

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Speaker 2: the Elli County showf's deputy in Palmdale last weekend, even

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Speaker 2: though there was already a court appearance today and this

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Speaker 2: man pled not guilty and not guilty by reason of insanity.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see what Gascone has to say. We'll carry

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Speaker 2: it as long as it makes sense to do that

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Speaker 2: in about.

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Speaker 1: An hour, probably about fifteen seconds, if making sense is

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Speaker 2: All right, Now, we're gonna talk about a story out

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Speaker 2: of Orange County, and we've run into these stories before

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Speaker 2: though when we do them on their show, often about

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Speaker 2: like sexually violent to sex offenders what do they call him?

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Speaker 1: SVPs?

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Speaker 2: Sexually violent predators. These are people that commit horrendous crimes,

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Speaker 2: but because of the mentally ill system we have, they

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Speaker 2: end up being stored in state mental hospitals for a

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Speaker 2: long time. And then everyone's like, well, now what are

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Speaker 2: we gonna do? And we can't hold on to this

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Speaker 2: person forever, maybe it's time to release him. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about a man by the name of Leonard Patten who

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Speaker 2: came to California in nineteen ninety four, and then he

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Speaker 2: got into an accident, like a fender bender in a

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Speaker 2: and he fatally bludgeoned her to death, hit her more

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Speaker 2: sent to a state mental hospital. So it's now up

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Speaker 2: to an Orange County Superior Court judge by the name

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Speaker 2: should be released with conditions to what they call an

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Speaker 2: outpatient facility. A hearing is coming up later on this month.

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Speaker 2: The Public Defender's Office will represent this creep. Leonard Patten,

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Speaker 2: who doesn't like it, along with obviously family members of

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Speaker 2: the woman that was killed, includes the Arts County District

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Speaker 2: Attorney Todd Spitzer. He's going to come on now to

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Speaker 2: explain why this man is still quite a danger to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Todd, how are you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm frustrated, you know, I mean, it's just it

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Speaker 3: just breaks all of our hearts, you know. Deputy Klingenbrumer,

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Speaker 3: thirty years old, killed in cold blood. Now the plea

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Speaker 3: we know it today announce an open court not guilty

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Speaker 3: by reason of insanity Leonard Patton in Mike County, you know,

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Speaker 3: bludgeoned Jessica Unit to death. He was found not guilty

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Speaker 3: by reason of insanity. When he was released originally back

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Speaker 3: DA then, obviously, but he secured a weapon, he was

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Speaker 3: has revoked its willingness to take patent. And now our

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Speaker 3: the state of California who are recommending his release. If

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Speaker 3: you remember Edward Charles Alloway, he was the guy that

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Speaker 3: today is the mentally ill who have proven their mentally ill.

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Speaker 3: Why are we bending over backwards to release the mentally

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Speaker 3: we have gone mad, my friends. We are the ones

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Speaker 1: What is the process that we're supposed to trust when

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Speaker 3: Well, it's either he's been on his medication, he has

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Speaker 3: But let me just tell you, our state hospitals don't

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Speaker 3: one of the big things I'm you know, you probably heard,

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Speaker 3: on gun control. Well, why isn't the governor and the

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Speaker 3: about getting our arms around and implementing laws that keep

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Speaker 3: how to deal with the mentally ill who are showing

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Speaker 3: constitutional convention for just California on that issue, which is

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Speaker 3: something we could control, and we could have that next week.

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Speaker 1: Why is there such a reluctance to deal with the

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Speaker 1: mentally ill effectively? What keeps the legislators from doing this?

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Speaker 3: I'll say you exactly because in nineteen seventy five a

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Speaker 3: and that character, Nurse Ratchet, was the one basically who

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Speaker 3: shut down mental hospitals in the state of California as

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Speaker 3: we know it. We stopped forcing medication, we stopped holding

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Speaker 3: and we started not having enough mental health in the

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Speaker 3: state of California to deal with the severely mentally ill. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I have a cousin who's schizophrenic. I live with their dad.

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Speaker 3: When I was in law school, so I've been around

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Speaker 3: paranoid schizophrenia at my all my adult life. It's sad

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Speaker 3: it's very difficult, it's extremely strenuous for the family members.

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Speaker 3: But but the fact of the matter is these people

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Speaker 3: can be very dangerous and we need to force medication.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying right now is gonna is to some

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Speaker 1: That's the story. Every time a paranoid schizophrenic commits some

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Speaker 3: Then I totally agree. And what I don't that you

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Speaker 3: asked me a question which is a very fundamental one.

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Speaker 3: Why is not the legislature addressing this. Daryl Steinberg, who's

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Speaker 3: Sixty three, which is trying to help the mentally ill,

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Speaker 3: but it is a coddling of the mentally ill and

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Speaker 3: The only way we're going to deal with the mentally

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Speaker 3: red flag law, which right for a gun application, And

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Speaker 3: you were talking about that in the last hour. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we have to start forcing meds in California.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, Well, just more quick thing. Do they

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Speaker 3: I don't know. The American Psychiatric Association, I think has

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Speaker 3: giving their professional opinions about how we're going to treat

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Speaker 3: the mentally ill using medication. And when somebody refuses, like

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Speaker 3: my cousin refused to take her medication, what will be

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Speaker 1: All right, Todd, thank you for coming on with us.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good, thank you. All right.

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Speaker 2: Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer to talk about this

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Speaker 2: story involving a murderer named Leonard Patton, who may be

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Speaker 2: released into a local facility out of a state mental hospital.

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Speaker 2: He was found not guilty by reason of insanity for

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Speaker 2: murdering a woman back in nineteen ninety four in Seal

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Speaker 2: Beach after a fender bender. He just went off and

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Speaker 1: We live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. I got one

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Speaker 1: more thing to say about that story. We did talking

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Speaker 1: to Todd Spisser or the Orange County DA. They want

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Speaker 1: to let out Leonard Patton, who is a murderer from

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Speaker 1: and now he might be he has a chance to

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Speaker 1: it is the crackpot wing of the psychiatric industry who

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Speaker 1: thinks they can rehabilitate a vicious murderer. That is, they

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Speaker 1: are such frauds and clowns, Charlatan's fakes phonies. You can't

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Speaker 1: sharp objects. Stop it. You can't rehabilitate these people. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what kind of God complex they have, but

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Speaker 1: that is a totally fraudulent sector of.

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Speaker 2: The psychot of these outpatient facilities. Oh what these security

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Speaker 2: is there or what they oversize? I mean, we ran

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Speaker 2: into this for a long time. Remember the pillowcase rapist story. Yes,

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Speaker 2: of these supervised homes.

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Speaker 1: And they ended up violating the agreement fairly quickly. And

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Speaker 1: I remember, I'm sure where he is today.

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Speaker 2: I remember they took him back and one day, very quietly,

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Speaker 1: These cases pop up every few years, and they're the

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Speaker 1: worst vicious murderers, the worst, sickest rapists, and then you've

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Speaker 1: got some weasel who you know has some fake degree.

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Speaker 1: Of course we never meet eat them. Right. He never

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Speaker 1: knows that. Mister insanity is now saying, right, mister violent stabber,

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Speaker 1: mister compulsive rapist, who are you? I want to hear

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Speaker 1: I want to see how nuts you are. You have

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Speaker 1: to be insane to try to But you know, they

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Speaker 1: get to do this anonymously. We don't know their names. Oh,

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's supposed to be a press conference

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Speaker 2: next year. Concerning the case against the man accused. Well,

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Speaker 2: as long as it warrants, sometime around three o'clock. From

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Speaker 1: The lawsuit says, so that's during Steinberg's term. Huh, He's

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Speaker 1: And it's true. It's not hyperbole. It's true. Steinberg's policy,

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Speaker 2: There's no enforcement. They don't do anything. Even though Steinberg's

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Speaker 1: All these programs they're housing, the housing first, biggest bomb

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's fake nonprofits sucking out millions and millions

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Speaker 1: You know, there was something specific to the migration here,

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Speaker 1: Right, New York City has a low cost of living.

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Speaker 1: Who do I know? Right? If you move to a city,

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Speaker 1: A lot of them went there by choice. You know,

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Speaker 1: know people? There are people from my country living there

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Speaker 2: Well, for as long as we can tolerate it, we'll

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Speaker 2: In case the judge says, well, yeah, we're gonna hold

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Speaker 2: newer columnists with the Elshiegundo Times, Erica D. Smith. She's

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Speaker 2: I got a new city council person, that's Tracy Park,

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Speaker 1: Right. They always identify somebody who's declared themselves the mayor

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Speaker 1: or the sheriff, the leader of their close knit community.

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Speaker 1: When it's a bunch of drug addicts and bums.

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Speaker 2: And then there's now fourteen thousand people allegedly living in

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Speaker 2: RVs in the county. And then she says, broadly speaking,

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Speaker 2: it's the fault of officials at all levels of government.

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Speaker 2: They listened to the nimbies and didn't build enough housing

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Speaker 2: to meet the need.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what, that is a total lie.

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Speaker 1: These people are never going to live in a house

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Speaker 1: or an apartment. They don't have work, they don't go

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Speaker 1: to work every day. They're dysfunctional. They can't work because

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Speaker 1: they're drug addicted and mentally ill. Erica D. Brown is

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times she's Erica D. Smith.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times she's going to write

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Speaker 1: this same silly, ridiculous cop. They never will work because

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Speaker 1: they're crazy or they're drug addicted, and we don't have

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Speaker 1: the obligation to take care of all of them. We

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Speaker 1: don't have to build housing in our neighborhoods, so drug

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Speaker 1: addicts and mental patients can live next door to us.

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Speaker 1: If you want to call that nimbiism, fine, it is nimbiism.

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Speaker 1: Not in my backyard. I don't want mental patients and

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Speaker 1: drug addicts in my backyard or my front yard.

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Speaker 2: She eventually talks to uh boy, the chief executive of

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Speaker 2: Good Old LASA, the Los Angeles homeless services agency. Her

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Speaker 2: name is now Veelicia Adams Kellum. Well, this just speaks

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Speaker 2: to desperation. People are literally paying rent to live in

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Speaker 2: a dilapidated RV. Shows you the level of despair. And

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Speaker 2: they need for us to build affordable housing. Again, all

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Speaker 2: of this leads back to the same wrong dead end

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Speaker 2: of housing. First, people with people have so many dysfunctions

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Speaker 2: and problems. It's not going to be the miracle of

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Speaker 2: building in an apartment that's going to change this.

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Speaker 1: People fused to work and we're constantly being gas lit

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Speaker 1: BS two, lectured, scolded. I'm not listening to your lectures

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Speaker 1: and your scolds. They have to go to work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you take this to the extreme. There's really

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Speaker 2: in certain neighborhoods of southern California.

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Speaker 1: Never been enough housing.

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Speaker 2: There's always more people that want to live in a

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Speaker 2: certain community than it can afford to live in the community.

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Speaker 2: But they don't set up an encampment because they can't

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Speaker 2: afford a home in Beverly Hills, or can.

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Speaker 1: You imagine that everybody love to go live in Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills or bel Air, right, but they don't because they

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Speaker 1: can't afford it, and they accept that. They don't park

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Speaker 1: an RV in front of someone's house in bel Air,

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Speaker 1: No they don't. They buy a smaller, less expensive house

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. That's what you do if you can't afford LA,

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Speaker 1: get out of LA, go to Barstow.

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Speaker 2: I actually gets into the whole complicated part of this. Well,

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Speaker 2: the DMV has to do instigating to figure out who

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Speaker 2: owns the RV being rented at the encampment before they

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Speaker 2: could legally tow it, and blah blah blah blah blah. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: cut through this. No no, when I'm grateful that Tracy

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Speaker 2: Park has come up with a way to cut through

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Speaker 2: this because she got rid of just about all the

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Speaker 2: RV's there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's total garbage and nonsense. And nobody believes this

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Speaker 1: except these idiot LA Time columnists like eric A. D. Smith.

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Speaker 1: Nobody normal believes this stuff. I in fact, I just

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Speaker 1: noticed this on the way to work yesterday. I took

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Speaker 1: the Pass Avenue exit in the one thirty four. You

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Speaker 1: go down to the end of the ramp, there's a

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Speaker 1: traffic light. It's red, so I stop and I scare

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Speaker 1: straight ahead. The first thing that greets you when you

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Speaker 1: take that ramp is one of those parking restriction signs,

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Speaker 1: and it said no RV parking overnight, something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: And that's your welcome to Burbank sign. If you're in

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Speaker 1: an RV, you're not parking it here tonight, because what's

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Speaker 1: Burbank going to do. They're going to ticket you and

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Speaker 1: toe you, and they don't have any excuses. They tike it,

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Speaker 1: toe you and put it in a yard somewhere, and

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to pay a thousand bucks to

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Speaker 1: get it out, all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up very soon, the LA County District Attorney, George Gascone.

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Speaker 2: Alongside him will be the LA County Sheriff, Robert Luna,

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