1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I really am loving every day being in this building, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: being part of the Cleveland Browns organization. But like you said, 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: just worrying about football day in and day out, worrying 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: about this offensive line, how can we get better, how 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: can we help them get better? It's just it really 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: is such a blessing. And also being in the meeting 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: room with Kevin and Tommy and Bill Musgrave like those 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: are unbelievable football minds and just getting to bounce different 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: ideas and talk about different ways to I remember Jimmy 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Ray saying a long time ago, there's a lot of 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: ways to get to Chicago, and it's very true. But 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: we're trying to find out what our best way for 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the success of the Browns will be. 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: School is officially out for summer. It is summer vacation. Everybody, 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to the best podcast available. We are making the 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: best vacation plans available, as are a lot of people 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: in this building as well. The Cross Country Mortgage campus. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the field here in Borea where behind us 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: it's over mandatory Midi Caampa. The off season program it 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: is done, wrapped up today with one final reasonably short 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: practice and that's it. I'm Andrew Siciliano. This is Jason Gibbs, 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: and I don't know. The air feels a little bit 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: cleaner and fresher and more beautiful and beautifulday here by 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: the way, But beautiful week for the summer, buddy. 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have never thought this on Monday when 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: we looked outside and it was pouring rain for eight hours. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: But you were on a plane, you got here, you 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: brought the La weather with you. Some people on Brown's 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: daily social media don't like you because of that, but 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: that's all right. I can appreciate a beautiful day and 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: a beautiful week, and we've had that. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: I look at it this way. I'm going to take 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: the Cleveland weather back to wherever I'm heading next and 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: that includes a high school graduation, all of it in 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: northern Virginia. Okay, great, thanks friends. I let's talk about 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: the football. Let's just start with the quarterbacks and get 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: it out of the way. As we opened last episode, 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I know that's what you want to hear about most. 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: There is no winter, there is no loser, there is 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: no grand sweeping conclusion. Necessarily to take from the end 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: of the off season program, Joe Flacco got some good 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: reps today, Dylan Gabriel, Canny Pickett it as well. Didn't 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: see a lot of shador sanders. He really didn't take 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: his first nap give me unless I'm wrong until about 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes were left in this final practice. Moved the ball, 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: I thought pretty efficiently when he moved over to the 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: two minute drill in front of everybody. He's made some 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: really good throws. Dylan Gabriel has also made some good throws. 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: Maybe didn't see it today in red zone. Did see 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: it yesterday when he was doing a two minute drive. 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Hit some good crossers, hit the tight ends a couple 52 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: of times, stood tall in the pocket and delivered the football. 53 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: But if you are listening and looking for a winner, 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: there is no winner that is going to be determined 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: in July. But that doesn't mean this coaching staff wasn't 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: taking notes. 57 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: This was too determined these last three days and the 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: body of work over the last month, month and a half. 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: This is determining. They're never going to say depth chart, 60 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: but this is going to determine day one on training 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: camp out here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus, who's 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: with the first team and who's going to get the 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: bulk or the lion's share of reps, who's with the 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: second team, who gets not as many the third team 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: and the fourth team? 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: Like that. 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: Everything that you've been dead with doing here in this offseason, 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: especially these last three days, is determining that depth chart, 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: that unofficial depth chart for training camp. 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco said on Wednesday that he would like a 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: few more reps, but remember a couple of weeks ago 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: he also did concede, Hey, yeah, like I probably need 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: the least work of anyone. I'm a man. I'm forty. 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: He didn't actually say that, but he did go off 75 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: on his TikTok rant on Wednesday, which was good for him. 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm a man of forty is fantastic. You're an adult. 77 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: I mean, why are you dancing? Gimbe's gonna dance a 78 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: little bit late. I'll dance for anything. Are you on TikTok? 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: No? No Instagram, my mom, plenty of socials. 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: Here are my conclusions to the quar tracks. I believe 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: that's my kids. Joe Flacco can sling it go down 82 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: the YouTube rabbit hole. At the end of the twenty 83 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: twenty three season, he still has it and if he 84 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: is the starter week one. Then look, he's going to 85 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: sling it and this team is going to move the football. 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett has twenty five starts. He had his moments 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: out here during the offseason program, certainly, and he is 88 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: going to get his opportunities when training camp opens without it. Doubt, 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel both our rookies, both at 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: times look really comfortable and both at times look like rookies. 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: But truly, all four of them can win this job. 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: Tommy Reese during OTAs was asked, can you see a 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: scenario in which all four win the job or any 94 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: of the four? And he said yes, and then he joked, 95 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be pretty sad statement if the answer 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: was no. You have the three preseason games and the 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: two joint practices. Honestly, when it's eleven on eleven and 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: it's real football in those moments, that's when you're going 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: to be able to make conclusions. Douce Staley said earlier 100 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: when he was on the podium, you know, he said 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: nice things about his rookie running backs, and then somebody 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: followed up about, you know, making conclusions, and he said, 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: I'll do that when the armor comes on, not when 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: we're out here in pajamas. The same goes, by the way, 105 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: for the quarterbacks. It's not as if they're getting pressed, 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: man correct. It's not as if these dbs are truly 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: going for the football and tackling. They're not. It's different. 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: Call me in training camp. 109 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then let's get the pads on. Let's see 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: what happens. Mason Graham, not a lot made about him 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: this week, but I can tell you I watched him. 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: Got off the ball, well, got off the ball. 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: Well. 114 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: He's fast, a lot faster than I think all of 115 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: us realized, can bend like Miles a little bit. He's 116 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: got some special characteristics. But put the pads on. Quinn 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: Shawn Jenkins looked really, really good. Put the pads on. 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: Let's see what happens when the contact starts, you know. 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: And it's the same thing with the quarterbacks. It's the 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: same thing with that wide receiver room. You know, the 121 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: wide receivers can run routes and not have to worry 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: about getting hit tight ends. 123 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Same thing. 124 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: Let's see what happens when the pads come on. It 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: makes life a lot easier and a lot more clear too. 126 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: And clearing up something I said, you can't play tight coverage. 127 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: It's just it's a different game. It's a different game 128 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: in training camp than it is now, and that's where 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: you get your sweeping conclusions. Let's talk about the wide 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: receiver room here. Chad Shay made the point. Chad O'shee 131 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: rather made the point of saying Brown's wide receiver coach. 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't matter how you got here. You're all giving 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: an opportunity. Yeah, Luke Floorier has made some plays, and 134 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: he wearing thirty seven will undoubtedly from Kent State. Local 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: guy makes some plays when we get to training camp, 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: when we get to the preseason, there's always that rookie 137 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: wide receiver that makes plays in the preseason. He could 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: be that guy from South Carolina, Davis Gauge, Gauge, oh 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: Man Van Yep. 140 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: We've gone over this name about five hundred times and 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: I still can't. 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: He has made plays as well. He caught the Schador 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: deep ball couple of days ago. He will make plays 144 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: in the preseason as well. The big question is ken 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Deontae Johnson. Can you rely on him number one? Let's 146 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: just let's put it that way. Last year was not 147 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: his best year and when he spoke on Wednesday. He said, 148 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying to put that year behind me. I am 149 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: only looking forward, and he wanted to point out, hey, 150 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: I had five good years in Pittsburgh, Like, let's forget 151 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: about last year. I went down another YouTube rabbit hole yesterday. 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: He made some plays in Carolina last year. Certainly, if 153 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: you can rely on him, he's a legitimate weapon. Cedric 154 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Tillman encouraging Mike Woods, encouraging to see them back on 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: the field for their first day of work during mandatory 156 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: mini camp today. But they're being relied on, especially said 157 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: as well, you got to see it from said you 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: saw it last year for about five six weeks. Unfortunately 159 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: the concussion. It's time now. 160 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: You have Jerry Judy and you have seven other guys. Yeah, 161 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: we gotta figure out who's our number two. Ideally it's 162 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman. But Tilman coming off the concussion scare last 163 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: year and missed a bulk of the season because of it. Unfortunately, 164 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: just couldn't pass the clearing house and the rules that 165 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: come with that. Deontay Johnson got a lot of questions. 166 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: He tried to put those to bed, as you said 167 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: yesterday during his availability on Wednesday. But after that, who's up? 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: Who wants it? And I think we're gonna find out 169 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: does it is? Andrew Barry got another movement up his 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: sleeve between now and the time we're back here and 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 3: cross country. 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: Look, you're you're certainly looking at this point, there's really 173 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: no one. And I know people say, well, I'm gonn 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: keen it out, Like, look, there's a list of names. 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: You're not calling that list now most teams unless maybe 176 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: you do. And I'm not trying to suggest I do 177 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: or don't do anything. I don't truly, but those are 178 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: moves you see right before they started training camp or 179 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: after the first week of training camp. Perhaps just you know, 180 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: speaking from looking in the past with other teams, do 181 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: you get into training camp like yeah, maybe we go 182 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: get a guy they're not there. I would like to 183 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: see Deontay Johnson do so like Jamari Thrash Hadowshay pointed 184 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: out today, as did Kevin Stefanski on Wednesday to off season. 185 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: He had that touchdown, had a red zone drill from 186 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: Kenny Picket or Dylan Gabriel. I can't remember where. He 187 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: went up high and brought the ball down, landed on 188 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: his back, he has looked good. Big leap from year 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: one to year two. All right, let's go to the 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball real quick. There was a 191 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: question certainly throughout the off season about the safety room, right, 192 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: what does that look like? Other than Grant Delpit and 193 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: rocket returning Rodnie Hickban as well the two veteran safeties 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: for Shawn Jenkins, also Demante Casey, who has flashed a 195 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: little bit out here. I think they've stabilized that room 196 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: and I feel more comfortable give you right now than 197 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: I did six weeks. 198 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: I also like the young kid Edmunds. Yes, I think 199 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: ed last year forty one. Yeah, I think that's a 200 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: kid to watch, especially they like him on special teams. 201 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: But I know coach Bonda, who was on Cleveland Browns 202 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Daily a few weeks ago, was raving about him as 203 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: a guy that could get meaningful snaps on the defensive 204 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: side of the ball, not just special teams. 205 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: Carson Swessinger Mason Graham both look the part. I have 206 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: talked to gms or coaches over the years in which 207 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: when they get there, when the players get there after 208 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: the draft and they get on the field for rookie 209 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Miday camp not that there's buyers remorse, but we've all 210 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: ordered stuff, right and it shows up on your front 211 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: step and then you open the box and you're like, Eh, 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: didn't you just get something the other day? I did, 213 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: But that's not the point. Like you open the box, 214 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, eh, is that what I ordered? There are 215 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: teams throughout the league every year where the draft pick 216 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: gets there and you're like, Okay, got it. That is 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: not the case with this year's class. And that is 218 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: not the case, especially with the two defensive players taken 219 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: at five and at thirty three, Mason Graham and Carson Schwestinger. 220 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: You see them out there and you're like, Okay, yeah, 221 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: they're good. We're good, and I cannot wait to see 222 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: them on the field when this becomes real. 223 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: Defensive line no concerns. I mean, you're at defensive end. 224 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: You've probably got seven guys right now that can make 225 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: your roster defensive tackle easily. 226 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: You've got four or five. 227 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: And you didn't even get to see my call this 228 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: week because he's still coming back from his injury suffered 229 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: in that final game of the year in Baltimore. Linebacker 230 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: will be fascinating to see what happens you know Jerome 231 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: Baker's in the mix. You got Devin Bush, you got Swassinger. Uh, 232 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: you know diabatees in that mix. It'll be interesting to 233 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: see who comes to the forefront there, especially with j 234 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: Okay obviously out for the year. And I'd be remiss 235 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: if I didn't add mister Hicks to that as well. 236 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: And Diabade moving around a lot. You call him a 237 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: chess piece, but they're all around. Yeah. That the front, 238 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: the defensive front seven? So o line real quick here? 239 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 240 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: Dwan Jones left tackle, Yes, he's slimmed down, certainly. It'll 241 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: be a big training camp for him as well. I 242 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: heard good things about Luke Whippler coming back from Injuri 243 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,359 Speaker 2: Zach's inn are getting stronger here. All of those players 244 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: we addressed with the mystery man it's been avoiding the 245 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: media for most of twenty twenty five. That is the 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: new Old line coach, former Rice head coach Mike Bloomgren. 247 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Mike Bloomgren deserves an award for being here. How long now? 248 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Four months since January eighth? 249 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so more than that, yes, and this is your 250 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: first media availability just to the podium. MIDI caamp wrapped 251 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: up its time for the summer. You basically went like 252 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: five six months. Yeah, that's completely fine with that. Yes, sir, 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: How much fun are you having now? And listen, I 254 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: don't want to It's not about going back to Rice. 255 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: It's just about overall the fact that you're not a 256 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: head coach and you don't have to kiss babies anymore, 257 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: and you don't have to fundraise anymore, and you aren't 258 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: recruiting twelve months out of the year anymore, and you 259 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: can just coach ball. 260 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I really am loving every day being in this building, 261 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: being part of the Cleveland Browns organization, but like you said, 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: just worrying about football day in and day out, worrying 263 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: about this offensive line, how can we get better, how 264 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: can we help them get better? It really is such 265 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: a blessing. And also being in the meeting room with 266 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 1: Kevin and Tommy and Bill Musgrave like those are unbelievable 267 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: football minds, and just getting to bounce different ideas and 268 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: talk about different ways to I remember Jimmy Ray saying 269 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: a long time ago, there's a lot of ways to 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: get to Chicago, and it's very true. But we're trying 271 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: to find out what our best way for the success 272 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: of the Browns. 273 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: Will be talking to Jack Conklin talking to Joe Botonio. 274 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: They both talk about the toughness coming back to the 275 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: room clearly. How do you do that though, in a 276 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: mandatory media camp when it's football in shorts, as Deuce 277 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: just said, football in pajamas. 278 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Deuce is right. Football in pajamas is 279 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: a good term. But what I would tell you is 280 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that there's still things we can do an individual well, 281 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to do. In a team format, we can 282 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: do a lot of tough things and we get in 283 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: phase three. We get to push sleds and many can't. 284 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: We get to push sleds like that's a lot of fun. 285 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: And we did a drill today where we talk about 286 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: max Q, which is a NASA term where an aircraft 287 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: taking off takes the maximum pressure and overcomes it. And 288 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: that's really what happens for every offensive lineman on every 289 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: drive block. And so we've got to continue to work 290 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: that and make them understand the strain that it takes 291 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: two through and beyond that block. 292 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Okay, explain that. Explain how max Q max q. Okay, 293 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: explain how that applies, because again let's say, well. 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: It's a third down, maybe not as much, but as 295 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about anytime we're in a one on one 296 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: drive block situation where we're gonna have the stalemate and 297 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: we've got to overcome it for the Browns to win. 298 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: Fair. 299 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: Okay, you want to get back to run of the football? 300 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: We do. 301 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: You are coming back to a town. There aren't many 302 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: towns that go, yes, we're going to get back to 303 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: running the football. 304 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: Yes, sir? 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: Was that when you spoke to Kevin initially Day one? 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: I had to assume that was part of the conversation. 307 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: I mean that probably gets you right here right, Yeah. 308 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: It means a lot to me in this line. I think. 309 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of offensive football, I 310 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: really do. And being able to impose your will and 311 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: run it when they know you're going to run it like, 312 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: those are big things. And again national football, we know 313 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to protect the passer and were we 314 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: sign up for that and we want to do that 315 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: as well. But running the football, Yeah, there's a special 316 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: place in every offensive lineman and every every offensive line 317 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: coach is hart for that. 318 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: What's the most consecutive plays you ran the ball at Stanford? 319 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: We ran it the whole second half in some games, 320 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: so probably thirty. 321 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: To thir thirty to thirty five times. You had three 322 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: hundred yard gas, you had four hundred yard games, you 323 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: have three thousand yard seasons. Yes, sir, that's what you 324 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: would love to see here. 325 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to do whatever it takes for the 326 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Browns to win every game and whatever Tommy and Kevin 327 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: c is the best way. But yes, in my heart 328 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: of hearts, I'm gonna take a lot of pride every 329 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: time we call a run. 330 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to Joel Buttonio. I know 331 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: it was brought up on the podium here. You saw 332 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: it of the golf tournament last week. He called you 333 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: a It wasn't jerk. I'm going to change it to jerk. 334 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: It started with a D. 335 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Yes it did. 336 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: Is that a term of endearment? 337 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: I took it as one. It's again, most comfort comfortable 338 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I've ever been called with being called that statement in 339 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: my life, and it's not the first time. 340 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: But you need to be there, don't you. I think this. 341 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: I felt like this room needs to hear that and 342 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: feel that. 343 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: What I really believe is you have to be genuine 344 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: as a football coach. I think these guys have to 345 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: feel how much I care about this game and their development, 346 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: and if that comes across in that manner, it's because 347 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about it and I love this game. 348 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: Jack said he didn't think Joel was really going to retire, 349 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: but Joel said that You're a huge reason he decided 350 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: to come back. Take me to that dinner where you 351 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: guys sat down. What was your pitch? Yeah, I mean, 352 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: we go when we break bread. It was it was 353 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: a really easy and. 354 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Comfortable conversation because we're talking about our families, then we're 355 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: talking about how we see this game right on down 356 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the line to talking about our goals, his and mine 357 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: for this unit for the future, and then talking about 358 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: his legacy of this team. And I basically told him 359 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: like I really want to be a part of this. 360 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to learn from you, and I want to 361 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: help you go out the way you want and if 362 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you can play four more years, let's play four more years. 363 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Like whatever this looks like you doing at a high 364 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: level that you want to do, let's go do it. 365 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: And so again, I think when you have the mutual 366 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: point of loving this game, and you know, he obviously 367 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: cares a lot about the Browns. We just had that 368 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: mutual ground to start from and it was an easy conversation. 369 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: I want to run down some guys real quick thoughts 370 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: on Dewan Jones. 371 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Dewan came to everything this offseason, did everything he was 372 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: asked to do in the off season program. He has 373 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: lost weight, and he attacked his rehab. So again, those 374 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: are really good steps. I just said it over there. 375 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: But you know, not a finished product and none of 376 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: us are. So we've got a lot of work to 377 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: do this summer in training camp to be ready for 378 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Game one. 379 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: I know Joe Thomas used a joke that like switching 380 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: to the other side is like wiping your ear with 381 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: your other hand, and Dewan said that his right handed punch, 382 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: he's so much more comfortable than his left handed punch. 383 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: But you also said there on the podium that you 384 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: don't think there's that big of a difference. So how 385 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: do you coach him through those finer points to make 386 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: him feel more comfortable. 387 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that from a skill set standpoint, 388 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: there's not many differences from the ability you need to 389 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: play both proficiently and at a high level. They are 390 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: not very different. The time on task and the reps 391 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: certainly need to come at left tackle, So every rep 392 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: he gets, every set he gets, has so much value 393 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: to get him comfortable with that side. 394 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: Zach center last year coming back from a leg and Dre, 395 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: I know it's your first time with him, so last 396 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: year rearview mirror for him. But what do you need 397 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: to see from him as he develops and hopefully makes 398 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: that jump year one to year two? 399 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think number one coming in with a fresh 400 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: look at it, a fresh lens, if you will, and 401 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: looking at Zach exactly what you mentioned. His last game 402 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: is college career, he breaks his leg, then he has 403 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: zero off season, and then game three of his rookie season, 404 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: go get him, Tiger, go block Dexter Lawrence for a 405 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: whole game. And you know that's a hard deal to make. 406 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: An assessment on what I've seen from Zach this offseason 407 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: is improvement. I've seen him getting stronger in the weight room, 408 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: and I've seen him getting better on the field and 409 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: working at as fundamentals. So I appreciate Zach. I can't wait. 410 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: He's one of many things I can't wait to see 411 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: in training camp. 412 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: Speaking of guys, coming off injuries. Luke Whippler, what do 413 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: you see and can he can he realistically push ethan 414 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Posk coach. 415 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Whippler is doing a heck of a job. Yeah, he 416 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: is really doing a great job in our room. He 417 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: and Poe are unbelievable with their attention to detail and 418 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: how they want to drive this ship for our football team. 419 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: And I really have great confidence some maiter which one's 420 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: in there right now? 421 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the quarterbacks from this perspective. How does 422 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: a four person quarterback competition effect, if at all, your room. 423 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if it does. 424 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple of things cadence wise where 425 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: one guy may sound a little bit different, But our 426 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: coaches are doing such a good job getting them unified, 427 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: and so again, I think ultimately, the more time on 428 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: task we're able to have I have. Once Kevin decides, 429 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Kevin and Tommy decide to name a starter, that'll be great. 430 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: We'll lock in that first group as much as we 431 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: can at every position and get the continuity going. But 432 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: right now we're just enjoying every rep we get. No 433 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: matter who's at quarterback, I could be at quarterback for 434 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line on some of those reps. You know, 435 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not good. But my point is like, 436 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: we can get what we need, the work we need, 437 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: and we're having a good time with all four of 438 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: those guys. And I do see those guys in the 439 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: building all the time. I think they're all working incredibly hard. 440 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: All right, and now you have some time off. We 441 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: do big plans for schools out now, big plans for 442 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: the month. 443 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Family moved off about a week ago. We're gonna 444 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: unbox a lot of stuff. 445 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: All right. So it's an unboxing month. 446 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: It's an unboxing month. 447 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: Gosh, I think you'd rather be your coach. 448 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna rush home today. 449 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Mike Bloomgren, Welcome to Cleveland again. 450 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time. 451 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: I have talked to so many former college head coaches 452 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: in the last year who have gone like or college 453 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: head coaches who are still on their job, who say, man, 454 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: I just want to be a coordinator or a position 455 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: coach in the NFL because I don't want to have 456 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: to deal with the nonsense anymore. Mike Blumgren, I think 457 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: a classic example of that, and I think we can 458 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: say across I haven't talked to every old lineman. 459 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: They love him and that matters. Yeah, that matters. We 460 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: had Kevin Hogan on right after. You know, we hired him, 461 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: and Kevin Hogan was his quarterback at Stanford, you know 462 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: when Bloombern was legend. 463 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: Kevin Hogan. 464 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan loves Mike Bloomgren. 465 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: He couldn't say enough positive things about Mike Bloomgren, and 466 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: that seems to be the case with everybody. He's a 467 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: Bill Callaghan disciple. 468 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 4: We like that. 469 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: I think you've heard the offensive lineman this week, whether 470 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: it was Jack Coughlin right here on this podcast or 471 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: Joel Botonio at the Browns Foundation golf out of talking 472 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: about getting back to maybe some of those schemes and 473 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: some of those rules on the offensive line. 474 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: He said Bloomgren did that. Maybe they ran the entire 475 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: second half in a few games. I mean, you know, 476 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: first thing I texted somebody when he got hired, first 477 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: thing I got back was I think they ran power 478 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: eighteen straight plays once at Stanford. I don't know that 479 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: the Brown's gonna do that, but hey, getting back to 480 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: the bread and butter and getting back to what this 481 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: team has had success with under Kevin Stefanski in previous seasons. 482 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: Getting after the quarterback is also important. This guy, not 483 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: this guy, but the guy that's about to be magically 484 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: transformed to standing next to me in Gibbee Spot wants 485 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: to get after the quarterback a little more this year 486 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: as well. Isaiah Maguire, I've had a couple of people 487 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: tell me that I don't know if there's an award 488 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: for the hardest worker in the off season, but that 489 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: you've been You've been the burreal warrior, that no one's 490 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: been to the building as much as you. You've been 491 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: here the whole time. Ten minutes after practice, twenty minutes 492 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: after practice, you're still out there. How's your off season, 493 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: ben me, because football is basically here. 494 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, off seas has been good man. Like I said, 495 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: just taking that time away from here after season, reflecting 496 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 5: seeing where I can improve, also not just from on 497 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 5: the field standpoint, but physically mentally, especially being a student 498 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: of the game, and just coming back here when we 499 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 5: got back here in April and just being around my 500 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: teammates again. 501 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: It's been very exciting. 502 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: You look surprised when I said that. People have said 503 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: that you're working your tail. 504 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: Well, well you do stuff, you don't necessarily do it 505 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: for you know, people to notice. This is more so 506 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: if you do it for results. And also you can 507 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 5: bring along others you know, if you're able to, but 508 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: just mainly just to put in the work. 509 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: So what are the results you are looking for? Because 510 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: everyone says, hey, biggest leap between year one and year two. 511 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: You made that leap last year, so now you're. 512 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: Two to your three. Ye you were looking for what breakout? 513 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 5: Truthfully looking for a breakout, looking for elevating myself as 514 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: sending Lord, willing to go out and be the player 515 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 5: that I know I can be that. 516 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: I capable of. 517 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: That means more sacks, right. 518 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 5: Absolutely, more sacks, TFLs, turnovers. Also just being a better teammate. 519 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: Also, I don't mean to say this like flippantly, but 520 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: our sacks overrated because I mean pressures matter, right, Getting 521 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: near the quarterback matters. I was taking a quarterback down matters, Yeah, clearly. Yeah, 522 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: But I would say that pressures matter just as much 523 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: as sacks. Am I wrong? Or they should be considered 524 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: more in the math? How about that? 525 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: I think they go hand in hand. I think once 526 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: you apply pressure, throws off a quarterbacks timing, throws off 527 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 5: the offensive you know whatever timing. However, a sack equals 528 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: negative yardage, yes, which is a guarantee TfL. 529 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: TfL TfL should be in all this math. 530 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: TfL is very important too. But obviously everyone sees the 531 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: sack and celebration. 532 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: What does it mean to you that your grades and 533 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: clearly your performance. Forget what PFF thinks and they had 534 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: you as a top five guy against the run, but 535 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: that you were able to and maybe not without all 536 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: the fanfare, to put that kind of season together last year. 537 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: It was very important, as everyone knows, you know, last 538 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: season was very long, it was very you know, had 539 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 5: a lot of trials. But I think what was very 540 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 5: important not only for us in our room, but as 541 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: the teams that we collectively stuck together and also continue 542 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 5: to put our best foot forward and continue improving of 543 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: what we you know, could control. And by the grace 544 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: of God, I was able to do that last season. 545 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: So Alex got hurt, and then Z got traded, and 546 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: then your snapcount clearly went up, and then you took off. 547 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Momentum can't carry from one season to the other, whether 548 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: it's a team or for an individual player. But what 549 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: did that second half of the season tell you? 550 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: It told me it honestly helped with my confidence as 551 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: a player, truthfully, simply because like I said, like you stated, 552 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: Z got traded, Alex got hurt. You know, those were 553 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 5: very fortunate, because you know, those are great guys and 554 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: great football players. But I knew that I had to 555 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: seize the opportunity that presented itself. And you know, with 556 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: the help such as coach Stock and the other vets 557 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 5: in the room and you know, my support system, I 558 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: was able to hone in, not overthink, and just play 559 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: more free collectively. 560 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the defense here, and Jim Schwartz talked 561 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: a lot last week about obviously getting back to what 562 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three was, of course some more turnovers. How 563 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: do you and a lot of it offense has to 564 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: play complimentary football. You guys can't be on the field 565 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: the entire game. But how does the defense get back 566 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: to the dog mentality that we saw in twenty three? 567 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: Honestly, it's just mindset, and I think we've been able 568 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: to show that this offseason with you know, most people 569 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: in attendance this offseason program. And OTA's whether it's Phase one, 570 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 5: Phase two, and now phase three. It shows intention and 571 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: how we compete with each other each and every day, 572 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: not to put anyone down, but to uplift each other, 573 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 5: hold each other accountable. Also, like I said, just look 574 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: at where we can improve, not only for ourselves as 575 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 5: an individual player, but also, like I said, just uplift 576 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 5: on one another and tell them, hey, I saw this 577 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: on this rep. Maybe you could do this. It doesn't 578 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: matter where you are, whether you're a starter, whether you're 579 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: a rookie coming in, it does not matter. You can 580 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: always learn something from anybody, and that's what's really important 581 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: for us. 582 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: It just said that he has felt ninety five for 583 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: presents the last two days. Yeah, that Miles chased him 584 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: down on a scramble like twenty yards now the field. 585 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: How has that changed things this week? He said? Perfect attendance. 586 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: Obviously this is like the last test before you're. 587 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Off for a month. 588 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 589 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 5: Uh, Like I said, it's good to have him and 590 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 5: you know as well a couple others back, you know, 591 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 5: for this mandatory mini camp, just to see all of us, 592 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: you know, in one setting. And obviously he's a tremendous player. 593 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: He's always gonna make his presence known hence is why 594 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: he's had the success he's had. So it's for him 595 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: showing consistency who he is, and us not only looking 596 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: at that and seeing where we could take that and 597 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: apply to our game, but also just collectively rushing together 598 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: and being one. 599 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: So bear with me here for a second. Schwartz made 600 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: the Spider Man analogy last week. Did you hear that 601 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: about Miles on the contract? How he's got to have 602 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: his best year because for the what does it feel it? 603 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: It's it's for the exactly. Yeah, with great power, come 604 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: great responsible to the captain. Justin all right, and I 605 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: to hear your cartoonist a little bit, I do Could 606 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 2: you draw Miles as Spider Man? 607 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: Could? I? If I really sat down and took the time, 608 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: I probably could. 609 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: That was a hell of a long setup for me 610 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: to that question. Tell me about do you draw. 611 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: In the off season? 612 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 5: I've drawn a little, not as much as I did 613 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: growing up, but definitely downtime. Love to just sit down 614 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 5: and doodle and sketch and draw. 615 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Anyone on this team? 616 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: Did I draw? Nah? 617 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't do that. Okay? Would you draw like 618 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: Brownie the Elf? 619 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: I probably could? 620 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, would you draw like the dog mascote? 621 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: Okay? 622 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: What do you draw? 623 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: Cartoons? Man? 624 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: Like I said, I grew up, you know a fan 625 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 5: of Sonic Mario. Uh, Transformers? 626 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: Who was your favorite transformer? 627 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Mega Tron not Bumblebee. 628 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: I've always been a Megatron person. 629 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Got it? 630 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 631 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: Transformers? And what else? 632 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: Like I said, Sonic Mario? Man, what did I used 633 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: to draw my Grammy? Her favorite like character of all time. 634 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: Is tweety Bird? 635 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 5: So I drew tweety Bird a lot because I love 636 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 5: my Grammy. 637 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: You could do all the like I'm just brainstorming. This 638 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: is like you could get like an NFL official license. 639 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: You could do all the mascots. Oh yeah, off season goals. No, 640 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying that could be an off. 641 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 4: Season Yeah it could. I'm thinking, yeah we could. 642 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you got in the last month here 643 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: before camp? 644 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: Last month? Uh, just like a little downtime. I definitely 645 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: got to make sure I see my family, look forward 646 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 5: to my family reunion. But like I said, the main 647 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: thing is just getting the body ready, getting the mind 648 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: ready in all aspects of you know who. 649 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: I am ready for this season. 650 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: One more day and then back to work. Third week 651 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: of July. I absolutely taking time man, enjoy some time off. 652 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: Sir, Thank you God bless. 653 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: I had really not talk much to Isaiah maguire other 654 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: than hey, what's up in the elevator right on the road. 655 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: I'm glad if allt I got a chance to talk 656 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: to that Guy's awesome, truly, So. 657 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: I will tell you this. I interviewed him Rookie Mini 658 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: Camp weekend when our building was here at the Cross 659 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: Country Mortgage Campus was under renovation. Yeah, we were in 660 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: off campus house and literally I had the fireplace going 661 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: and we taped the fireside chat for Rookie. 662 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Minni Camp for a b I really wanted. 663 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: One is Isaiah was a little shy at first, but 664 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: of all the rookies from that class that year two 665 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: years ago, I mean, it was fifteen minutes and insightful. 666 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: He's quiet, but he waited his turn. There were a 667 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: lot of guys in front of him, think about it, 668 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: Clowney Zadarias Smith like Alex Right. And I remember seeing 669 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: him in the cafe a couple times in and just 670 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: telling him your time will come. Just be ready when 671 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: the time comes. And that time he got a little 672 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 3: glimpse of it. 673 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: Two years ago. 674 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: He got a glimpse last year, a big glimpse when 675 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: Alex Wright went down, and he's made the most of it. 676 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: And I mean this coaching staff is very, very excited 677 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: for his potential. You see it against the run. Like 678 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: you said, he wants to get after that quarterback a little. 679 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: More, and I have no doubt that he will. Yep, 680 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: and we'll see him back on the field when training 681 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: camp opens the week of July twenty one. Don't yet 682 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: have the full schedule as we're taping it here today, 683 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: but it is going to be. The Browns are going 684 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: to be and I know you already see this one 685 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: of the spotlights of the NFL because there's a legitimate 686 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: quarterback battle and we are all excited for it. We 687 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: are also all excited now for a little bit of 688 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: time off. Does the Gibbet family had big plans. 689 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to play a lot of golf. I'm gonna 690 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: play with Tequila Fila and we're gonna play some golf. Yeah, 691 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna get away a little bit. We already did 692 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: the big trip. You know, the Italy trip is done. 693 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: You know we got a little to get away, aren't 694 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: you like climbing a mountain or something. 695 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed goals, get to the top of Mount Fuji. Hopefully, 696 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, we'll you know what, maybe maybe I'll have 697 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: the Browns hat and we'll wear it there. 698 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: We'll do that photo there. I think you should. That's 699 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: that's that's a lofty goal. I hope it works out for. 700 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: You, buddy. Maybe see some sumo, go see some baseball. Yeah, 701 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: it'll be fun. 702 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: You've got a whole thing planned out. 703 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: But then we are back here come training camp time. 704 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: On all your Browns podcast platforms and CBD and everything. 705 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: We will be at it one hundred miles an hour 706 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: once training camp begins. Be here, friends, it's going to 707 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: be a big training camp. Two joint practices, three meaningful 708 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: preseason games, three joint practices, three don't sell yourself short sessions, yeah, 709 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: one and one with the other. Yeah. But two teams 710 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: against whom the Browns will have joint practice, yeah, the 711 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: Puthers and the Eagles. And then the home game here, 712 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: the one home preseason finale on the twenty third at 713 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: hunting Bang Field against the Los Angeles Rams. A lot 714 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: of people to think you mentioned tequila fila behind the 715 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: camera right now. 716 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: We also Justin's actual name. He's very, very talented and 717 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: we couldn't have done this without. 718 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: We want to thank Jordan, We want to thank Ricky, 719 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: We want to thank El, Jeff McDaniel, Jeff McDaniel obviously 720 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: as well. 721 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: Ricky, congrats on getting married. 722 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: Ricky, congrats during this podcast. 723 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: You got married. 724 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: Coming to work the next week, like, look at you, buddy? 725 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: How about that? 726 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: That's why he makes eight dollars and five cents an hour? Wow, 727 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: there you go. 728 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Ricky also has the power to edit that last line 729 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: out and I have nothing to do with it. Perfect 730 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: Bark Tank will be back in season and huge, big 731 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: plans still to be announced for training camp. Enjoy your summer. 732 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: Please be safe, Okay, don't dive into the short end 733 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: of the pool, and we will see you back here 734 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: come training camp. 735 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: What I had one more thing I wanted to thank you. 736 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: You made your you made your BPA debut. Thank you 737 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: this year and you took it to a whole nother level. 738 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: And I thank you for joining me. I car carrying 739 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: the water for me. 740 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: For me, I did not carry a darn thing else. 741 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: You're might great to be here, and this is this 742 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: is like a Ventriloquist act. It is fantastic. Gibbie's gonna 743 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: get a baby Bjorn. Nathan's gonna come back with a 744 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: baby Bjorne, but he's going to have one as well 745 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: so he can carry me around training game. Remember stay hydrated. 746 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: Friends for Jason, Gammes and Andrews is Siliano so long?