WEBVTT - Mic Check feat. Brian "B-Dot" Miller

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<v Speaker 1>Speaks to the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God and

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<v Speaker 2>guess what I can't wait to see y'all at the

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<v Speaker 2>third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Pullman

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<v Speaker 2>Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions Man,

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<v Speaker 2>DyB and Weezy Okay now look, tickets are on sale now.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the R and B Money podcast with taking

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Valentine. We got the Woman of All podcast with

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<v Speaker 2>Saray Jake Roberts, we got Good Mom's Bad Choices. Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>Champion will be there with her next sports podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Trap Nerds podcast with more to be announced. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course it's bigger than podcasts. We're bringing the Black

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to miss this. Tap in and grab

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<v Speaker 2>Festival's talk talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just too unapologetically black women. Then with an opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>he talks what's up y'all?

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<v Speaker 3>It's your girl a J holiday?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up tam BM Hey, I love y'all. I love

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<v Speaker 1>you AJ. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you send me a million dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got it, but when I get it, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>share it. How's your weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>It was wonderful? It was spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you look so pretty this weekend. AJ, you look

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<v Speaker 1>like you did like a nice lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all, hold on before I tell my weekend. We do

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<v Speaker 3>have a guest on. We talked back this week y'all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we have B dizzar.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you got to say all love it like

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<v Speaker 1>like a tribe. Call quest Brian b dot Miller. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>like that accent?

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<v Speaker 4>Tim Van? What is that Barbados?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's I try to sound like, uh a mom?

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<v Speaker 4>What's your mom from?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was my Barbadian? Is that how you did

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<v Speaker 1>we have? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Brian lashbacks, I want to move to Barbados so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's really like goals in life.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell y'all about b dot b Do

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<v Speaker 1>is a journalist essentially a music journalist and with a

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<v Speaker 1>focus in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct that's pretty accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's listen, he's talked to, he's done interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>all a lot of the greats, most of the greats,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got like, we want to pick his brain

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to him about what he knows and give

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<v Speaker 1>us some of the inside scoop on these niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>I I appreciate it, on some of the current events

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<v Speaker 3>and hip hop today. I want to get his take

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<v Speaker 3>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, listen, I want to talk about all your weekends. First.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me get back to my weekend. How Freddie

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<v Speaker 3>I was and he was so huge. One of my

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<v Speaker 3>good friends, la Quandra, we have been friends since middle school,

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<v Speaker 3>but we reconnected maybe about three years ago now, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've been like this, y'all can't see but glue since

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<v Speaker 3>we reconnected.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy to be like friends with her, like

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<v Speaker 3>right now and this part of her life, she's having

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<v Speaker 3>a baby, because every time the old bitches get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm next. I'm always excited. Okay, Yes, So

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<v Speaker 3>my friend she actually frowze her eggs the year before last,

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three, and she ended up conceiving naturally

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<v Speaker 3>last year, so she got less than a month. Like

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<v Speaker 3>her due date is May first, so she had a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful baby shower for her baby boy that she's having,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had the bitches riled up right because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm wearing gloves, like, she looks so pretty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm like I wanted wings, bitch, I order some wings.

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<v Speaker 3>They coming all the way from the Ukraine. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>sending a picture. I'm like, real big wings. Because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>The god to walk around down women's baby shower with wing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I had a wand and I ain't even

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<v Speaker 3>a damn my mother, No, but I'm the god mother. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but listen, you look so pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the wings didn't come because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would have messed up the outfit. The outfit was perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna start dress like that on the regular.

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<v Speaker 1>You look really beautiful. I was like, oh, look at

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<v Speaker 1>my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if niggas see us dressed like that, they

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<v Speaker 3>really won't think we are Finesser's like, we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 3>nice and home. We with gloves, like these bitches don't

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<v Speaker 3>look like they're gonna steal from us, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna steal for them, like.

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<v Speaker 3>So nice and easy going, and then gotcha yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>when we take the gloves off.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell y'all about my weekend. Y'all. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Dreamville, fast and well. I typically have my tickets

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. I don't know if I fell off this

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<v Speaker 1>year or what happened, but I did not. I have

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<v Speaker 1>tickets in advance, and I ended up getting some tickets

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<v Speaker 1>actually through Ludacris's team. They had me some tickets at

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<v Speaker 1>the uh SO shout out to them. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>them for send to me some tickets. Now, Brian beat up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, hey, listen, I got you on the VIP.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get here, just get in the gate. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, y'all. I got in that first of all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was seven hundred and fifty thousand people at that

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking shit. Okay, y'all. It felt so good outside though

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<v Speaker 1>it was perfect. It was way last year it was cold.

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<v Speaker 1>This year it was perfect weather. But every time I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to call Brian, listen, it'd be like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I could hear. Like you could not. It

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<v Speaker 1>was no phone service, so I had to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Pop y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, popped the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn, I try to get you through the back door man.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was too many people using the same tower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like you couldn't you couldn't get on

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<v Speaker 1>nobody on the phone. But regardless of being Jim Pop

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<v Speaker 1>with seven hundred and fifty thousand people, I swear it

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<v Speaker 1>with so many, I had the best time. My homegirl

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<v Speaker 1>snuck a joint under her wig into the U the festival.

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<v Speaker 1>So we's out there like smoking our little joint, envibing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody a childish. She put it in a

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<v Speaker 1>zip lock bag and slid it right up under her wig.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, put this little mini bottle under your wig.

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<v Speaker 1>But they wasn't checking like that. There was not. They

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<v Speaker 1>was just checking for metal. That's all they were cared about.

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<v Speaker 1>They was not concerned with no little joint. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun and the music was good. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>a vibe. I'm not a festival girly no more, though

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think unless I had my VIP passed in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Even still, the walking is insane. If you can't walk,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't stand for a long time. And y'all know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got my foot back.

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<v Speaker 3>Where was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was down bad, it was put up, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just got that thing back and we walked at least

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two miles. It felt like so but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. What about you, Brian Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>As you alluded to, I was at Dreamville Fest. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>still recovering from Dreamville Fest. I walked at least sixty

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<v Speaker 5>thousand steps over the course of two days.

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<v Speaker 4>I was walking like a civil rights activist.

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<v Speaker 5>It was bad like in fact, my friends I got

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<v Speaker 5>lost with them and I had to walk back to

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<v Speaker 5>my hotel on Sunday, the last night. So I had

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<v Speaker 5>a great time at Dreamville Fest. The first day I

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<v Speaker 5>was I like to say I was performing because I

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<v Speaker 5>did an interview with Boy Wonder, super producer, and after that,

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<v Speaker 5>I just enjoyed my time with my friends. I had

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<v Speaker 5>some high school friends come with me, some friends I know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, from the business, and it was just a

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<v Speaker 5>great time. It felt like a big family reunion. So

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<v Speaker 5>I was really happy with this week. In the outcome,

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten but you know, minus one. That's what I was about,

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<v Speaker 1>saying family minus one, because that.

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<v Speaker 5>Was in I know, I know next year, God will

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it looks like, maybe we'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't have to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Through Ludacris, right, I don't have to be on that

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<v Speaker 3>app signal and you can use that outside of like

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<v Speaker 3>the regular cewer. Yeah, I love it, so like that's

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<v Speaker 3>some doomsday ship. I think you should be able to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well I needed to download that because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad, like you couldn't get a text to

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<v Speaker 1>go through. You couldn't get nothing. It was just if

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<v Speaker 1>you lost your friends.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just over, you know, in one area.

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<v Speaker 5>But I did get a lot of people into the

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<v Speaker 5>area that I was in, so that was helpful.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. We just had to do a little bit finessing,

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<v Speaker 4>but we made it work.

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<v Speaker 3>But you left. My friend Tam was on the other

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<v Speaker 3>side of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>She was Lucris Man.

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<v Speaker 1>She was I was not with Lacris. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if Luthercris is there. Like one of Luthericrist's people

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get me some tickets, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. But I was like when I did talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him, he was like, you're on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I had to like trek, I trecked across

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<v Speaker 1>the sea of people.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like the million Mare in March. It was

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<v Speaker 4>seven hundred and fifty thousand plus another seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty So yeah, it was so many people, but yeah

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<v Speaker 1>made it and the music was it was great. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I heard this was the last Dreamville Fest with

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<v Speaker 1>j cole like in charge of it. Now it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be uh, somebody else is gonna take over it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be white. Now, I bet I got

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<v Speaker 1>a huge inkling that Nirvana or somebody else can Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cobain is headlining this shit next year. Okay, because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest time he's changing the name of it. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still gonna be Dreamville Fast. It's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>ran by somebody else. It's not gonna be he said.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just maybe he's selling the festival.

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<v Speaker 1>You think. Yeah, it's something something like that is happening

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, because it brings like they the Raleigh

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<v Speaker 1>makes one hundred and forty five million during that weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's gonna be branded into something else. It might

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<v Speaker 5>be like Dreamville Cohn or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Who knows, but we're gonna have to wait another twelve

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<v Speaker 4>months to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's in Raleigh. Yeah, Why did I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was in Fedville?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm there made neighbors.

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<v Speaker 4>No Cole is from Fayetteville, but you know he's putting

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<v Speaker 4>on for the city.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Faveville don't have no space like that to

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<v Speaker 1>house that many people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think interesting, And I need to give him

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<v Speaker 3>the key to the city ship. You bringing that type

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<v Speaker 3>of money in? Yeah, day fuck you want to do

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<v Speaker 3>around there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? Because over a weekend you're bringing that much money in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy thing. Yep, all right, let's get in this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm Sunday, when I was recuperating, I came in

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched Housewives of Atlanta, and typically I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>watched in a long time, but I tuned in because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the talk about the the new cast member

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<v Speaker 1>who had pulled a gun or mentioned not pulled a gun,

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<v Speaker 1>but mentioned that sheated that she will will put a

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<v Speaker 1>pull a gun on Kenya. So, y'all, Kenya has a

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<v Speaker 1>launch party for her hairspot. And this is this beautiful place, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is really nice. And she does her speech,

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all, she pulls out a poster size picture of

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<v Speaker 1>this girl that threatened her sucking dick.

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<v Speaker 3>You could not have possibly been that fucking scared because

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<v Speaker 3>if I tell y'all gonna shoot your ayes and then

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<v Speaker 3>you host some shit online with me sucking dick or

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<v Speaker 3>do something an event, you could not be that scared

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<v Speaker 3>of me shooting you bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen right exactly? That was low for even Kenya in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, what was it? It was? That is like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like she ruined her own event. She made

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<v Speaker 1>it a class list by doing that, and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, damn, that's so mean, Like can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being somewhere with your mouth open with a dick in

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<v Speaker 1>it for everybody to see?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that girl is married?

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<v Speaker 1>Also, yeah, it was a bad scene. So basically, Bravo

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<v Speaker 1>has decided to stop filming with Kenya, so she won't

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this season, which is unfortunate because

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<v Speaker 1>she is an entertaining cast member.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she doesn't have a peach anymore, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she chose somebody out the newcomers to target right

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<v Speaker 3>on the shore on the show like a supporting you

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<v Speaker 3>no remember, but she's not. She doesn't have a peach.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not a main character anymore. And I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 3>last week's episode, but I remember I saw like a

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<v Speaker 3>clip after I watched the week before it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the it gives you like a little

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<v Speaker 3>preview of the fallen week next week. And she was

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm the queen and you the peasant or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. She was telling the same girl. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was after that scene was filmed that the gun

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<v Speaker 3>shit like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, popped off and listen. The girl came to the

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<v Speaker 1>event and she brought this beautiful bouquet of flowers with

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<v Speaker 1>the card in it, and she came up to Keny

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, Hey, I want to apologize for our

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<v Speaker 1>interaction and I really would like for us to start

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<v Speaker 1>over kind of vibe. And King was like, girl, get

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<v Speaker 1>out of my face. You know. Basically she ignored her

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<v Speaker 1>because she knew what she wanted to do and if

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<v Speaker 1>she accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>Her apologets already committed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she couldn't do that, you know, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Committed to being an evil bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not She's not happy. She's real miserable, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think she has a lot of childhood she needs

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<v Speaker 3>to try to heal. She just she's just not nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a lucky act like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so beautiful, why you know you too? Not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay for ugly people to act like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're too beautiful to be so hurtful, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a hurtful person would do something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, I know her important.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you have something to add right there.

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<v Speaker 4>You're with this pic with a poster, like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>go to Kinko's and say, hey, I want to get

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<v Speaker 4>just printed out?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is patty enough to do that ship at Kinko's

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<v Speaker 3>because y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to be fine no more.

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<v Speaker 3>She postalized that ship like it's probably like ups office

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<v Speaker 3>on FedEx.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, I need a fifty fifty of this picture

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<v Speaker 5>giving Office.

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<v Speaker 3>Depot did that ship? I feel like off Office Depot

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of equipment they did that ship got.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop copy, remember Dave Chappelle pop cop Definitely pop copy

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<v Speaker 1>did that ship. I'm the manager.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame on her, man, I need I need a can

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<v Speaker 3>you to go get some goddamn therapy? Yeah? Now what

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about the girl being a video of Vixen?

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<v Speaker 1>You were too man, And I know you do suck

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<v Speaker 1>some dick, you know, like you suck some dick in

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<v Speaker 1>this life. She's all fifty years old. I know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>at least had one dick in her mouth in this

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime on camera. I don't know about on camera, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next level. On camera's next level.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, at least homegirl could just take the picture, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>frame it. You know, at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, no throw that away, burn it. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to hanging up nowhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, because she's married and has like

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, she's trying to have a child like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for her husband. I don't see how she can.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she was a little bit younger, bitch started

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<v Speaker 3>only fans just turn the lemon into lemonade. But nah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>she really could have in this girl's life with that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was checking for it now. I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Kenya didn't have to go too far for the research

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, Twitter, they be on everybody fucking neck

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<v Speaker 3>like that ship probably was just Google, I mean, put

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter and came right up, But Kenya didn't. Probably

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to research at all for it, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it was out there obviously if Keny was able to

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<v Speaker 3>get her hands on it. But who the fuck is

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<v Speaker 3>checking for that? I don't. I can't be that mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all don't think I'm real mean, but I have, Like

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<v Speaker 3>my conscience is crazy, Like sometimes I don't say or

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<v Speaker 3>do half the things I be wanting to do because

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<v Speaker 3>I care.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you don't. That's why I said, that's a hurtful

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<v Speaker 1>person's thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even if a motherfucker deserve it, I cannot find

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<v Speaker 3>it in my soul. Is just be that nasty to somebody, right,

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<v Speaker 3>all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So what about this? I know y'all saw this video.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you saw it. Beat that or maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't because you was at Dreamville and the VIP without

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<v Speaker 1>me they had, all right, So a New York City

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<v Speaker 1>woman decked a pro life activist claimed she was provoked

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<v Speaker 1>into violence. So this video went viral over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>UH two black women were having a discussion, a heated

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about you know, abortion and being pro life and

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<v Speaker 1>pro choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Choice, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The interviewer got punched in the mouth and punching the

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<v Speaker 1>eye and her eye was bleeding really bad, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>an argument going around about like what's she right? Like

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<v Speaker 1>some people are supporting this girl getting hit in the

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<v Speaker 1>face and saying like because she was pro life, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that you punched that pro life for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and so weird, imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>Mad because somebody is pro life take away like everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Just listen to that pro life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's insane to me. For instance, it's an alternative

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<v Speaker 1>to being.

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<v Speaker 3>Pro life pro death exactly. So when you look at

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<v Speaker 3>it in that way, you're going to punch somebody in

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<v Speaker 3>the face because you can't take what they're saying about life,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, come on, what is happening? And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that the internet is like, yes, sticking to that bitch

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<v Speaker 3>because it's bigger than the argument. Right now, we go

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<v Speaker 3>into politics. Now, we go into the most recent election

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<v Speaker 3>and shit like that. So it's almost like people associate

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<v Speaker 3>pro life with the Republican Party and Trump now being

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<v Speaker 3>in office. So the people who are in support of

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<v Speaker 3>a random interviewer getting punched in the phase by a

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<v Speaker 3>random bitch who did not have to stop to even

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<v Speaker 3>talk to her exactly. That you need to check yourself

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<v Speaker 3>because it's showing like some real life mental illness right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of hatred.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that video disappointed me, you know, because just because

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<v Speaker 5>you disagree with somebody doesn't give you the right to

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<v Speaker 5>put your hands on them, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>she should have been locked up, or she should have

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<v Speaker 5>retaliated and hit her back. But I also it's disappointed because,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, in a way, it kind of reinforces stereotypes

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<v Speaker 5>about black women, black people that you know, we can't

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<v Speaker 5>disagree without being violent, and that's unnecessary. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>think it sends a bad message just because I disagree

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<v Speaker 5>with your perspective or your viewpoint. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 5>should take it to you know, assaulting somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not cool. So she should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Took that mic and wore her You had a whole

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<v Speaker 1>metal mic in your head. You should have wore her

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<v Speaker 1>ass out with that mic. She was me, No, she

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<v Speaker 1>was not.

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<v Speaker 3>How this shit was like, she really snuck the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>out of that girl. Yeah, and I still yet don't

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<v Speaker 3>care enough right to actually go fine and watch the

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<v Speaker 3>full content. I want to see exactly at what point

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<v Speaker 3>did you piss her off so much that she had

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<v Speaker 3>to put her hands on you. I just haven't done

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<v Speaker 3>my due diligence as of yet. But based on the

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<v Speaker 3>small fifteen second clip online, bitch, you need to be

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<v Speaker 3>in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need to go to jail, in jail for

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<v Speaker 1>what you did because you can't handle a little verbal spark.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can't, then just walk away. You're on

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<v Speaker 1>the city street. Nobody is holding you hostage to have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation, so you need to go to jail and.

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<v Speaker 3>Give her the needle.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>She'd probably be probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, so don't give her the needle.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, she's pro choice, So bitch, do you want the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire and squad? No, I'm talking about the girl. The

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<v Speaker 1>girl who was hit was pro life, so she's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about abortions, not when people do heinous crimes

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not heinous. Is extreme for just hitting somebody. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he was bleeding, she was bleding. Obviously she couldn't fight

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<v Speaker 1>you tough right cleaning New York streets with that ass,

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<v Speaker 1>she should have got wore out. I ain't gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 1>but that lady was like bleeding and stunned. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I got hitting the club one time like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was stunned. But it was thank God that my

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<v Speaker 1>sister was right there beside me, and that girl didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know my sister was listen. I am a lover. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't be in the club fighting. That is not my estetic.

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<v Speaker 1>I had on a two thousand dollars dress. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be fighting nobody. But this girl hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in Miami at lived and this girl hit me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I didn't even know her, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't even know that the beef was that beefy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So why did because I was the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>One was impossible of beef?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was beef. It was real beef.

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 3>That meat was really beyond beef. Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>She hit me, and I was stunned because I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know I was about to get hit. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she grabbed my hair and I turned this way after

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<v Speaker 1>I got hit, and she pulled my hair and then

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<v Speaker 1>my sister was like, you hit my sister, bitch, and

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<v Speaker 1>dang me and we wore her ass out her head

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<v Speaker 1>like we was knocking the Mario coins out her head like,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me tell you did like because she turned

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<v Speaker 1>around when I started tagging that head, so she kicked

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<v Speaker 1>backwards with her uh, with her heel and then caught

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<v Speaker 1>me in the sh and it did not hurt that day. Well, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>walking through the airport the next day Auntie was limping.

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<v Speaker 1>Why wasn't Auntie? I was young for that man. Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no footage. Somebody hit the table.

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<v Speaker 3>It was bad.

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<v Speaker 4>You need it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So Asha Howard addresses comments regarding her child with Anthony Edwards.

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<v Speaker 3>So Anthony Edwards uh X addressed what she what she

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<v Speaker 3>called lies and fake news after rumors that the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>Timberwolves star requested to pay more than a million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>upfront for eighteen years of child support for their daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>Aubrey Summer. Edwards is the baby's name, who was born

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<v Speaker 3>law last according to news outlets. So I had to

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<v Speaker 3>ask y'aut who Anthony Edwards was.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I know, okay, young basketball player, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he's having a lot of unprotected sex. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it's a lot of girls popping up with

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<v Speaker 1>babies by this man, and he's saying that he don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any of the kids. Now, I have mixed feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about this, because if a woman gets pregnant and decides

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<v Speaker 1>that she don't want the kid, there's things that she

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<v Speaker 1>can do. If a man gets a woman pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>decides he don't want the kid, we're like, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have used the kind of you should have used discernment,

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<v Speaker 1>now you need Oh you a daddby father. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the kid, And that just seems kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like unfair in a way. So I have mixed feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about it because I do feel like every like if

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<v Speaker 1>the if the kid exists, you should take care of

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<v Speaker 1>it or get a set. To me, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want kids, there's an options for you as well, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like I can understand from a

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<v Speaker 1>man's perspective, like, why is it for her to say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can terminate this child, but I have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you ain't just say that this was baby low

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<v Speaker 3>Baby baby mama. Why you ain't just tell me that?

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<v Speaker 3>When I asked, y'all who Anthony Edwards was anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby mama?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is Low Babies baby mama. Anthony is little

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<v Speaker 3>Babies baby the baby mama Anthony Edwards baby mama is

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<v Speaker 3>low Baby's baby mama. What I should have said?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how so.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, here's the thing. Dumb babies come out that man's

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<v Speaker 3>nuts first. That's your child, sir? Why you give me that?

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<v Speaker 1>So you should have the we don't want to cultivate.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't want it to cultivate, why did you

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<v Speaker 3>give it to me? So you mean to tell me

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<v Speaker 3>that this young boy is going around and pregnant in

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<v Speaker 3>multiple people and then flipping on them like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want because they're referring to her as an X So

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<v Speaker 3>was he in a relationship with her or not when

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<v Speaker 3>she conceived and he decided he didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>there after after the fact. There has to be like

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<v Speaker 3>some type of repercussions for that shit. I do believe,

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<v Speaker 3>And we talk about this shit all the time, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm down the middle with the things I do not

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<v Speaker 3>believe in struggling. Then I also, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's a lot of people who are happy to

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<v Speaker 3>exist right now because they moms made the choice.

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<v Speaker 1>To have swallow them or circummen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so boy, this is where they need to come

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<v Speaker 3>up with some type of birth control for men, because

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 3>y'all want to control what the fuck women can do

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 3>with our like what we do with our bodies in

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<v Speaker 3>every which way, and men are out here being careless

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<v Speaker 3>their entire lives, ruining lives, creating broken homes, creating baby mamas.

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<v Speaker 1>It does shoot out of y'all. First, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>your baby.

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<v Speaker 3>First, that's your motherfucker. You leave me with a baby,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting that baby on the porch, calling you from

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<v Speaker 3>the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>What i'maids, what I'm gonna do? What is.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially as a boy, Like what the fuck I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do with a little nigga? Like, come get your baby?

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 3>That's terrible, A little man, a little boy. What i'ma

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<v Speaker 3>do with your little baby? Like, come get your kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Little baby?

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I mean I see, I see both sides of

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<v Speaker 5>the corner, right, I mean, I don't think if a

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 5>man doesn't want to have a child, a woman should

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<v Speaker 5>you know, respect that. Take that to consideration after the consummation.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe take that pill that you know lasts up to

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<v Speaker 5>what forty eight hours, seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours at that point, But I think you would have

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<v Speaker 1>had the conversation in advance. You don't know you're pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>in forty eight hours, you know, listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what I did.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I'm gonna take your ass the Walgreens, pay

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<v Speaker 5>that fifty dollars, and you're gonna swallow the pills. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>because it was a mistake, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>Anthony also has to take accountability for his actions, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>especially if you're weeks and months into the pregnancy. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>like what's done is done, the eggs are already scrambled.

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Then you know you have to take you have to

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<v Speaker 5>man up their consequences to your actions.

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<v Speaker 4>So I see it from both angles, and even.

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<v Speaker 3>Just saying take the pill, like you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>go to that, you cannot just keep taking. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure this girl has taken plenty of Plan b's in

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<v Speaker 3>her like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not good for your body.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not you give me a body like like a

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<v Speaker 3>super soup up a bunch of estrogen and whatever else.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, to force now a miscarriage

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<v Speaker 3>essentially if the baby did if there was implementation implantation

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 3>at some point possibly right, or I guess the first

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 3>seventy two hours you're trying to kill sperm essentially, Yeah,

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>spirm no implementation, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, it's either that or eighteen years of

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 5>a headache.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you you pick. So I mean prays for

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<v Speaker 4>everybody involved, maybe less to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully that baby grows up to do something amazing, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just sad too, because you know, kids do grow

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<v Speaker 5>up and you can see things on the internet, you

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 5>can read things, and you know, yeah, my dad didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want me.

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Like that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Messed up, and that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes it does,

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>she said.

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<v Speaker 3>One more thing to add on the bottom, she said.

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<v Speaker 3>She stated that she is often labeled a gold digger

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<v Speaker 3>due to her history of having a child with a

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<v Speaker 3>successful artist, but say that she does not appreciate the

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>comments suggesting that she kept her baby with Edwards for

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 3>a check and child support rumors. That is fucked up.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 3>She kept her baby because she's pregnant, and maybe she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want to have an abortion. Maybe she's taking accountability

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 3>and accepting her blessing. How about that? How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fucking public. We're gonna kick it to some

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<v Speaker 3>sponsors and we'll be right back after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, we're bad guys. Beat out. Let's talk

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>about you. Let's talk about all the things you've done,

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're so amazing. Le'll be talking to So tell

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<v Speaker 1>us how you started, Like, how did you become a

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<v Speaker 1>music journalist?

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<v Speaker 4>Well it started back in the turn of the century.

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<v Speaker 5>Back when I was in college and I went to

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<v Speaker 5>Delaware State University and I was freelancer for a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of magazines at the time. And then once I graduated college,

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<v Speaker 5>the day after, I started working at Harvest Publications, which

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<v Speaker 5>is the parent company for magazines like ex Excel, King Rides,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 5>and Slam Magazines. So I was already integrated into the system.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I was doing that for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I pivoted into doing a blog era with

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<v Speaker 5>rap Radar dot Com in two thousand and eight, two

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<v Speaker 5>thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this, how does one cause

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I I would love to write for a magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you want to go about it? Because it's

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>not like you can just wake up today and be like, hey, yeah,

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go write for Essence, you know, like

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, well, time is different now, you know, the

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 5>game is definitely different.

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<v Speaker 4>Magazines aren't what they used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>When I was writing, it was a really lucrative and

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 5>it was a profitable business to be in. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>you used to get like a dollar word if you

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<v Speaker 5>wrote like a three thousand dour three thousand word piece

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<v Speaker 5>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But those days are kind of over.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was just about pitching editors, you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>you had an idea of reaching out to somebody that

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<v Speaker 5>was in charge and hopefully they liked your idea.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really that really that simple. But those are

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 4>the good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like that no more.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>It's even hard to find like a magazine, like a

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<v Speaker 5>news stand, like you know, unless you're in the supermarket

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<v Speaker 5>or in a major metropolitan area.

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, they're not like how they used to be.

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, magazines everywhere exactly, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of expensive too.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to say print is dead because I

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<v Speaker 5>still have a lot of colleagues in the business, but

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 5>it's not where it used to be, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I don't. I can't remember the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I actually went out and purchased a magazine. I

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even know, like a grocery score, yeah, you know,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know where to get one.

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<v Speaker 3>I have newspapers because when certain things happen, I'll go

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 3>by like a New York Times newspaper, or I'll go

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>buy the local newspaper, like when the wars and shit started.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Because I just feel like we're gonna like they have

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the most correct information in the newspapers. Nobody is expecting

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>you to read, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But those are becoming more of like collector's.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 5>Items, like, but there are some people that are still

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 5>like tangible media, Like some people love reading actual books

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<v Speaker 5>versus the kindle.

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<v Speaker 4>So I get it, but it's not the majority of

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<v Speaker 4>how it used to be. It's more of a minority.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am a book early. It's either like an

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<v Speaker 1>actual page turner or audible. Yeah, but Kendall, I won't

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do I don't want to read it on a phone. Yeah,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be a book or listen.

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<v Speaker 3>And even with audio audible, like I'll listen to that

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<v Speaker 3>my sleep, but I still have to really read to comprehend.

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll listen to things, but I still got to read

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<v Speaker 3>the book and that's afterwards.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of kind of the same way.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 5>Like even to this day, I still have all my

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 5>old magazines because I love tangible media, and I use

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 5>them as reference points if I have to interview somebody,

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, that's like a lexi acent like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's still it's still useful for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, AJ had a very interesting question about Kendrick Lamar

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and Drake, and I want her to ask it because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was all right. So my friend is

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy Theoristka.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I'm not a conspiracy anything. I am

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 3>a realist, right, And if we want to call people

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theorist, we probably like one hundred and oh right

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 3>now rather or not. Y'a've seen you know the truth

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>or not? I can't. You know. I'm no longer arguing

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>people's perspective anymore, but I do like to hear other

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 3>people's perspective on things. So I am a Gemini, right,

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 3>so I be trusting Geminis. I trust Kendrick Lamar. I

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 3>still fuck with Kanye even if niggas is still trying

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 3>to ostracize Kanye West. Okay, because a lot of times

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>we just don't be right now for niggas, and it's understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>I want your perspective on the Kendrick Lamar and Drake

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<v Speaker 3>beef because from our very first episode, I said that

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<v Speaker 3>Drake is the white man that infiltrated hip hop. Okay,

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel about Drake, like people want to

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>think about Eminem, all these all these other white folks

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 3>that know Drake studied hip hop like a college course,

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and he succeeded. He's kum Lati he is, you know,

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 3>he's that nigga right. So after further, because Tam hated us,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 3>she hated all of us during the time, she even

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>got out our group chat because we just like, yeah, Kendrake,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 3>fu fuck that white man's like, you know, just wilding out,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, just picking side essentially. But I am a

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 3>true Gemini, so I do stay down the middle, so

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I can see both sides of all the things, right,

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 3>And I know that we do not own this industry.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 3>We are definitely of the music, the you know, we

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>don't really own the culture, the culture anymore essentially. So

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel like there could have possibly been a sanction,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>like somebody sanctioned that's above everybody's head, sanctioned this attack

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>on Drake? No, no, oh no.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 4>No no no.

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<v Speaker 5>I respect the conspiracy theory, you know, but now I

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 5>don't think it's I think it's a little bit more

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 5>simplified than that, you know. Okay, this has been a

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 5>battle that's been brewined for a long time. It's been

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 5>bubbling in hip hop conversations for a while, and I

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 5>think it was just one of these moments where Kendrick

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 5>was like, you know what, I'm the best. I don't

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 5>want to share this big three throne. I don't want to,

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, share the crown. I'm the best rap in

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 5>the game. And if you feel otherwise, prove it. And

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 5>that's what happened. I was the gist of it. I

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 5>feel like Kendrick came out on top that simple though.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Once you start calling somebody a pedo, a PDF file

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff, you know, is it that simple?

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 5>Love is a battlefield and so is hip hop and

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 5>it's just about the war of the words, like who

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 5>can say, who can insult somebody the best or you know,

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, make you feel inferior. And I think that's

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 5>what Kendrick did, you know, effectively, you know, not like us.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 4>It's like one of the not like us.

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like one of those iconic hip hop songs,

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 5>kind of like a Baby Got Back or like jump

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 5>around like or you know, like one of those songs

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 5>is going to be here forever, like I Sight's Baby

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 5>Can't touch It. It's like one of those one of

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 5>those iconic rap songs. It's going to be here forever.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 5>It's more than just a disrecord at this point, it's

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 5>like part of pop culture absolutely.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 3>To me, like just the words of the song and

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 3>even the other song when he came up with kill

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>the Party whatever, like all all those songs are more

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 3>than just songs. And I don't even think it really

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 3>has anything to do with Drake. At some point the

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>content in these lyrics to me, because my brain go

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 3>a step further with a lot of things, it was,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 3>it didn't seem like it was all about It's not

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>all about Drake. They not like us, they not like us.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 3>It's not all about Drake.

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 4>No, it's definitely all about Drake. I just think at

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 4>this point, Yeah.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Kendrick is way more complex than I think he. I

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>think he put he put everybody in the fucking pot

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 3>and cooked them.

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 4>No, it's it's definitely about Drake. But because Drake's the target.

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 5>But I think the song has become so big it's

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 5>like the macarena, right, Like it's transcended as a disrecord.

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 5>It's just like a record at this point, and Drakes

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 5>just so happens to be the focus of it.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>So when Kendrick Lamar did Kendrick and Friends, and I will, Yeah,

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's where I met you had to pop out. I

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>was just so my flabbers were gassed because all the

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>white people were like, they're not like us, they not

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>like us, And I was looking, like, we talk about y'all,

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm even bigger than drink like y'all not

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>even But that says something about the white consciousness and

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>psyche that they're not even offended. They don't even care

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>they're in there because like it should be insulting to you,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, in some way it should be insulting, but

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>instead you're in here cripwalking to think about.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Hip hop for better for worse.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 5>It's an inclusive culture, right, Like we talk about inclusivity

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 5>a lot in today's society. There's no more there's no

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 5>culture that's more inclusive than hip hop. So you know,

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 5>whether you're black, White, Puerto Rica, y Haitian, you're down

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 5>with us.

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. So it transcends race, creed,

0:37:58.680 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 4>economic status.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 5>So if you get it, you get it, you know,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's the reason why people like you're

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 5>saying Tan felt comfortable reciting the words the way they

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 5>were at the in the spaces because they feel like

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 5>they're on they're part of the culture.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And they are like us, is what they assume.

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the reason.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:18.879
<v Speaker 1>About me is about.

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Nig ship. They don't necessarily like niggas though they not

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like us, I.

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Think, but I think in their minds perhaps they are,

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, right, because.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 5>If you're let's say you're a white person that loves

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 5>hip hop music, you grew up in hip hop culture,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 5>you can identify with what Kendrick Lamar is saying. You know,

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 5>your your hip hop regardless of your skin color. And

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 5>I feel like, Okay, if Kendrick is saying you're not

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 5>like that, I'm down with that. I'm down with this cause.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 5>So I think that's why people identify.

0:38:52.800 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>With Speaking of since we got in touching on race, yes,

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>me and Charlemagne got into heated discussion about people who

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>are Puerto Rican and Hispanic using the INN words. So

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>gratu is this right?

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And is it okay? Is it okay? Like for the

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>fact Joe's the Cardi B's the people who are you know,

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of Hispanic culture to use the N word like they do,

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>why do we give them a pass? You know, especially

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>in hip hop?

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 5>I think it depends on where you're from, right, Like

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm born and raised in New York City, South Jamerica,

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 5>Queens to be specific, right, and get.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>The money dollars, got money where you're from, Queens from Queens.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Right. When you're from New York City, you're surrounded by

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 4>all kinds of ethnicities, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 4>it's just we're all bunched together. So if someone is from.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Another place, so another city of town, and they hear

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 5>a non black, first of nobody should be saying the

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 5>word period. Right, yes, let's just be clear. We shouldn't

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 5>be saying it anyway. So when you're from out of

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 5>town and you hear somebody that's not black say it,

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 5>it's almost alarming. It's like, oh my gosh, what did

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 5>you are you hearing this? It's like, and you from

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 5>New York, that's your first word. It's not mama, it's

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 5>not that.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 4>It's nigga, damn. That's that's just what it is, you

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, Like, everything's a nigga in New York.

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 4>It's almost like a verb. It's a noun. It's an adjective.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 4>That's just what it is. And it's the way we

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 4>grew up in New York City.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 5>Like if you grow up, go to a public school,

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>you going to school with a black kid, you going

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 5>with an Asian kid, white, and everyone just saying it's

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 5>just part of it's it's it's a fucked up way

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 5>of thinking, but that's just what it is. That's the

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 5>reality of how it is growing up in New York City.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 5>And it's it's crazy because New York City not many people,

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of a small space geographically, but it has such

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 5>an impact on the world, you know, So I can

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 5>understand why some people are so offended by that, and

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 5>like it's hard to comprehend and understand.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't get offended by it.

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Thought, Yeah, I don't. I don't know that's important. Yeah,

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, somebody, a white person just better not directly

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 3>say hey, nigga to me per se like that. I

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>would have a problem with that.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I think again, I'm not to cut

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 4>you off, AJ, But I think context is important, right,

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 4>because I have white people that they're not trying to

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 4>be hurtful, but they just say it in conversation to you.

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's not so a white guy would be

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like this nigga cutting me.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Off in traffic it's see, it's content with that icy

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 3>not hickey, that hic down South hick accent in my head.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know about y'all. Racism be funny to me, man,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 4>like I could have survived a sixty I'll just be

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 4>laughing at someone was being disrespectful to me, Like you, nigga.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I've never been like I have never like had like

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>overt racism happened to me, you know, by the hands

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>of a white person. It was a Hispanic man who

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 3>called me and my little cousin, me and my cousins

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 3>monkeys when we were kids.

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:20.959
<v Speaker 5>That happened, right, I've experienced things like that. But like again,

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 5>it's just all about how you're saying what you're saying it,

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. It's just like time and

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 5>place a little bit, you know, Like I know when

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to be hurtful or disrespectful, but if you're

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 5>talking to me in a way where it's like as

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 5>if the communication is mutual, I'm not like offended by that.

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 5>And as a journalist, you know, I'm not offended by words.

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 5>I've heard it all offended you know, come to me.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 3>But why can't we say Jewish right. You see how

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>they they coven their their religion, you know what I'm saying.

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>You see how they they they are now creating hate

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 3>speech doctrines and laws and shit like that. Like I

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like that's how we as black people need to

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 3>start gate keeping shit understand, because it's a reason why

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>that they move the way they do and why they

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 3>are successful as as successful as they already do not

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 3>tolerate disrespect in any capacity. And I feel like that's

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the type of ship we need to be honest with.

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Cooking.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 3>You can't say that ship.

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 4>No, I agree with you.

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>We of this culture, of this culture we supposedly don't have.

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 4>Now, you're right.

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm a hypocrite, you know when it comes

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 5>to that as well, because I try my heart. It's

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 5>especially not to say it within mixed company. I try

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 5>not to say it at all, but it's like it's

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 5>almost indoctrinated at this point. But we do collectively need

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 5>to come up with you know, it needs to be

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 5>like if someone called me colored, I'd be offended if

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 5>someone said negro of it, like some almost like what

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 5>like it's such an antiquated term to call somebody.

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Colored, Like what I lost a friend because she said

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 1>colored people.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 3>She's white.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were. We were drunk at the waffle house.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The conversation was, we were talking about

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>being lactose and tolerant, and she asked our server, who

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>was a black woman, she said, are colored people really

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>lactose and tolerant? Looked at me like this your people?

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>So I had to like, and I was like, really

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>drunk and maybe how I because I don't think she

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>meant offense by it, you know, in hindsight. But I

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>went over. I got up out my seat and I

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>went over to her, and I stroked her head and

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I whispered in her ear, if you ever say colored

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>people again, I'm gonna whoop your motherfucking ass, Brittany. He

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>looked at me, and she saw I was very serious,

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and she never spoke to me again. We were not

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>friends after that, and I probably could have uh not

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>been stroking her head and letting her know, like, bitch,

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>this is real.

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Like I got a gun for bitches like you.

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a way that wasn't like because I don't in hindsight,

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she meant it.

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 3>From no, but what you learn when you have friends

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>who are white, that the ones like you have have

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 3>camaraderie with their family be racist, Like they'll tell you,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 3>like my people, like one of my only white home girl,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I know her family in Tennessee do not like black

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 3>people like that, you know what I'm saying.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's probably and she definitely was from one

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of those families. And I know that's why colored rolled

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>off her tongue so smooth like that.

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>That is some old down South nasty.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 5>You're offended by that word, Like that's how we should

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 5>be offended by saying the N word or other words

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 5>like that, because it sounds it's antiquated. No one says

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 5>that anymore, you know, So I don't know, maybe it's

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 5>bigger than me and all of us at this point.

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 5>You just need to come collectively and just change the

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 5>way we speak, in the way we think.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, we just need a paradigm shift and this way yeah, consciousness.

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we should just start calling them. I said, I'm

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 3>going to start saying Caucasian American, all right, European American

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 3>calling as black Americans. You see what I'm saying. So

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 3>we just got to start flipping a strip on them, like, yeah,

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 3>it was a it was a European American guy.

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I never.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 5>I never subscribed to the term African American personally. I

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 5>never liked it because I'm a black American.

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 4>What is somebody from.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Canadall, You're just American essentially, right, Yeah, you are, you.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Know, because you know they're black people all across the world.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 5>What if something like Pele, the soccer player that died

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 5>from Brazil, is he African American?

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 4>No, he's from Brazil. You know.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 3>That's why we can't take these things lightly because the

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 3>language is already a curse. And in the way that

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 3>they do stuff intentionally to us, it is to intentionally

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 3>not tie us to this land. That's why they calling

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 3>us African American. They want to make sure we always

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 3>feel like we don't have a fucking home. Meanwhile, this

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>has been our ship before it was theirs. They are

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>they are more immigrants than us, right, you see what

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So we do have to like take this

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>shiit seriously. It's not like, I mean, I don't care

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 3>about the word nigger and that like nigger, y'all right,

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about the word nigga like that. I

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 3>even spell a different you know, what I'm saying. I

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 3>spell a k n E A k n e g

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 3>a h nigga. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 3>even spell nigga different, you know, just to take the

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 3>power from it.

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I was out and someone called me a

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>nigger hardy r right now, I think I would be

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>like ooh ooh word like it don't it don't affect

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 1>me like I think it would have fifteen years ago.

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Right. That comes with evolution, you know.

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And oh you hurt my feeling?

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what, Yeah, I don't be like you and nigga.

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Don't call me fat. That's a fighting word for me.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Call me fat.

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 3>You win. You already win, like I'm calling my mom like.

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 1>You can't hurt me with that because I know I'm

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 1>not that. I am a little on the chunky side.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Gosh had them, you know, not the little ones. They had,

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 3>like the bigger containers on sound And I definitely bought

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 3>a strawberry Adam vanoa. Okay, that ship.

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's talk about the transition for rappers. Like, allright, so,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 1>as hip hop is getting older, some of our artists

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>are getting older and some people like all right, so

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>for Jay Z, for instance, his content is changing with him.

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like he still has the same following

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at theme this time? Are the young people like listening

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to jay Z? Then you have like the Jim Joneses

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>who who's content might not be evolving.

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 3>It just sounds like a Jim Whyan That's what we're

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 3>calling that nigga going forward? Why in Jim? Why in Jim?

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know what I'm saying, Like he like

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 3>a young old nigga, yea a grown boy his content,

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I did listen to his last album

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>came out like a couple of years ago, could be

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 3>around the same time as four four four probably, But

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>this recent freestyle I saw him do, I'm like, man like,

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 3>if you don't throw the fuck up?

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Boy. So my question to you is should they age

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>out of hip hop?

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Nah?

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.439
<v Speaker 4>I think if you still have something great to say.

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't think hip hop has a specific age for

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 5>listenership Like jay Z. It's been almost eight years since

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 5>his last album. We're still waiting on new content from him.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm sure he has a lot to say

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 5>and a lot to talk about. But I also think

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 5>it's like a misconception. It seems like as if a

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 5>person has to be on under twenty five for their

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 5>listenership to be valued. You know, people that are in

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 5>their thirties and forties and fifties and someone still love rap.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why there's so much emphasis on you know,

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 5>like the age is eleven to eighteen, as if that's

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 5>the only people that listen to hip hop. You know,

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of rappers with different perspectives that have

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 5>things to offer, things to say. So I don't think

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 5>jay Z at this point cares if someone is eighteen

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 5>years old listening to him. You know he's gonna be

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.320
<v Speaker 5>good regardless. And at this point in his life, I

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 5>don't think he's making music for money. So just music

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 5>to you know, art, this is art at this point.

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 3>But niggas he makes it. He's like, man, I make

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 3>this this for these niggas.

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 5>In ptition, you know, it's like a hobby or like

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, she started to do it for him just

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.839
<v Speaker 5>to get his message across. So as far as agent

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 5>or not, if you said, have something great to say

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 5>and it connects, I'm all for it, regardless of age.

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm finding that, like older artists are well I'll

0:50:55.800 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>speak to one artist, Andre three thousand, said nobody wanted

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to hear what he has to say, or he couldn't

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>come up with anything to say.

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Andre's full of shit. And I like Andre three thousand.

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 5>I met him a couple of times hung out, but

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 5>I hate when he does his self deprecating shit.

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 4>It's like, bro, you're great, You're one of the greatest.

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Trying to be humble fake come yeah, it's like the humanly.

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what to say, like cut it out, man,

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 5>Like big Boy is one of my favorites, and you're

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 5>still performing at a high level, you know, And he

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:28.399
<v Speaker 5>has a lot to say.

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 4>So Andre, you know this humility tour that he's on,

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 4>like cut it out.

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>But remember many many years ago, I remember him saying,

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to outdo the last verse that I burst. That

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>is my curse. So maybe he does feel like he

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>can't say. But he came out with that flute shit

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and I was disappointed.

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 4>No, I was not.

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I still listen to that.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I still go to sleep listen oh that, I go

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to sleep to it.

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, meditation music. If I go to sleep to it,

0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I meditate to it. I be playing it in the

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 3>house like sometimes I'll even turn like some zen shit

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube, or I'll put that album on YouTube, like

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the candles and shit. So when I walk in, I

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 3>feel like, right, that is a good album.

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Okay, it's good for that, but I'm not like, oh,

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>let me get dressed, I'm about to put on this

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>flute out for that.

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not for that. It's like for you to connect consciously,

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.320
<v Speaker 3>right and subconsciously. It's just it's different.

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 4>It's not rap, but that's not what we love. Andred

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 4>three thousand for right exactly his.

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I love him now because he could do all the things.

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 3>That makes me love him even more that he put

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 3>this album out, a flute album like what niggas is doing.

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>The best part of the album for me was the

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 1>titles of the songs like yeah and that was let

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to So it's still you can do that rap over

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that fucking flute. Andre God damn.

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 4>So when it comes to hundred two thousand, it really

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 4>pisses me off when he said that, because also it

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 4>sets the tone for a lot of other artists. You know,

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 4>it's just a bad predic resident like, oh, I'm a

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 4>certain age, I gotta rap about Colon Oscar Piece. Yeah,

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 4>maybe you can, but doing it.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 3>In a clever way, you know, right, Will Smith is rapping.

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 3>You see Will Smith is doing all his freestyles, and

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 3>what do you think about that?

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, shout out to Wilsmith.

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 5>We had a great conversation with him out in Budapest

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 5>a few years ago, and you know, he still loves

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:22.280
<v Speaker 5>making music.

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't think this is.

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 5>Necessarily the greatest music that I've heard from mister Smith,

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 5>but you know he's still he's still going to be

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 5>doing it. I mean again, he's not making music for money,

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 5>and he's still going to be able to do shows

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 5>from his older material. So you know, it's not necessarily

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:39.839
<v Speaker 5>for me and I'm not connecting with it, but I'm

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.240
<v Speaker 5>sure there's an audience out there that and that's why.

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, is there do you age out where

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>people still want to hear you?

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, I think you have to be self aware.

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, I hate it when rappers are out in

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 4>the world and people like, yo, when's the new album

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 4>come out? And you don't really care.

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, you have to be aware of who you

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 5>are and your your stocking the game at a specific

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 5>at a specific moment, like do people want a new

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:03.399
<v Speaker 5>jay Z album?

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Do people want a new Silk the Shock album? No?

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Like you have to be not so subjective.

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I would like to see collectively.

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.800
<v Speaker 3>That's my favorite word for feeding or asking for a

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 3>new album.

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 4>No, no, just the Silk. But I'm just saying, m if.

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>He came out with something, I give it a give

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it a try.

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 3>Now I used to get them every week.

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 3>On this topic, my question really wasn't wasn't really more

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 3>so about like aging out, but just making sure if

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:44.240
<v Speaker 3>you are going to continue to be an artist rapping,

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 3>like for the music to be age appropriate because, like

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 3>you said, like whoever gonna fuck with are gonna fuck

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 3>with it? Jay Z may not be making music for

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 3>eighteen year olds. He made that album for us, you

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, the grown people who trying to

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.919
<v Speaker 3>get their credit some land vacation for a living like yeah,

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 3>like generational wealth, Well yeah yes, and no.

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I struggle with that, right because what is age

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 4>appropriate music? Right? We're all practically the same age, right, Those.

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Niggas ain't in a hood no more. Why are you

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 3>rapping about that?

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 3>At what point do we take a social accountability for

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>our community. Also, I think the older you get you

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 3>have to have some type of social responsibility for the

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 3>people who are.

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Rap is creative writing to me, right, So you can

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 5>rap about the hood from a different perspective. You can

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 5>rap about it from a narrative, as a as a

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 5>fictional tale or something that you were really involved with at.

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 4>A certain point of your life. So I agree with

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.920
<v Speaker 4>you're saying, like jay Z's rapping about a lot of

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 4>financial literacy things and things that are affecting him on

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 4>a personal level.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 5>But I also think you could just be creative, like

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 5>you could talk about whatever you want. It's it's kind

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 5>of fucked up how like rappers are held to the standard.

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have to you know, live it.

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 4>We have a little activists.

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 5>Maybe I just want to be creative, Like, why doesn't

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Mars Scorsese get held to that standard?

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Why does other people.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.720
<v Speaker 3>That saying Kendrick trying to free the slaves?

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think he's.

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 5>Kenrick esthetic comes off kind of real, holistic and like

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, vernola ish at times, and I think that's

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 5>where Drake is trying to poke fun at.

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 4>But Kendrick has a song called Reincarnated on GNA.

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 5>I love that song, and that's him about taking the

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Ahawaska or whatever it is and having these you know,

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:33.839
<v Speaker 5>psychotic episode but that's creative, like he's doing Gloria. He's

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 5>talking about a pen and using personification, Like is there

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.720
<v Speaker 5>is there age for that? Because I remember at thirteen

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 5>years old or eleven years old, we learned about personification

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 5>in English class.

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's an example of it. So I don't know.

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.280
<v Speaker 4>I just think about the artists and if they're capable

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 4>of performing at a higher level.

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's fair.

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 4>That's all. Freedom rappers, man, Freedom rappers.

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, freedom rappers. When we come back from this break,

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to get into one last topic on hip hop.

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite people be not Yes.

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>When we come back from this break, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>need a SIMP series story for you, so you got

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<v Speaker 1>time to think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>A SIMP series. Oh man?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to talk about one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>gemini is Kanye West. Did you watch the Academics, the

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<v Speaker 3>DJ Academics interview with Kanye West recently last night before last?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It was like think the week before last week, I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't why. I just saw clips I'm just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like turned off, like mister West had this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tell me what you think, tell me what you

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<v Speaker 3>think about Kanye right now?

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<v Speaker 4>He's full of shit, man, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I always say that, don't, Tim, Don't I always

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<v Speaker 3>say Kanye full of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people say he's crazy Kanye that Nigga's saying. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>he is saying. He knows exactly what he's doing. I

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<v Speaker 5>think he's just trying to see how far you could

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<v Speaker 5>push the envelope without getting canceled.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a social experiment on wrong gone left, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already been canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just not canceled.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's trying to I don't know what he's

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<v Speaker 5>trying to prove, but it's like it's not work. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's I think the joke is a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gone too far. And at this point, he's just

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<v Speaker 5>making himself look bad. It's like an embarrassment at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So like him doing like that he said about jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z and Beyonce's kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like you're going a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that everybody been talking about is some kids

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<v Speaker 3>is well, I won't say it since they were born.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, absolutely should have never tweeted that, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely been topic of discussion for years now.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, yeah, these are children we're talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 5>so we have to you know it, whether it's true

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<v Speaker 5>or false, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all speculation, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not so for you to disrespect someone who I'm

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<v Speaker 5>assuming was your friend, like in that manner, that's not

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<v Speaker 5>cool at all. But then wearing disrespecting Jewish people and

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<v Speaker 5>wearing a swastika and like.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, come on operating that white lady around get all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Kanye's mom I met her once, she would be disappointed

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<v Speaker 5>in him at this point. And I just so when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to that interview, I just haven't haven't really tapped.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not interested, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. I don't think people really want

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<v Speaker 1>to see a Kanye interview right now, Like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna they're not expecting a sound person to come through

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wouldn't want to interview Kanye West at this

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<v Speaker 5>point because it's nothing, there's nothing new to talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna justs you know Jay Z or Beyonce, Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it's not it's tried.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, we've heard it already, you tweeted it out.

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<v Speaker 4>We get it. What about your music? You know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what we fell in love with? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Did y'all miss the part when he said he got

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<v Speaker 3>when he was talking about this is this is during

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<v Speaker 3>COVID kind of when it was he put the text

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<v Speaker 3>messages out about how his trainer had drugged him essentially

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<v Speaker 3>and also threatening to like put him away where he

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<v Speaker 3>would never see his kids no more. Trainer. Yeah, supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>just a trainer, but he's a Canadian man who actually

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<v Speaker 3>uh worked for the Canadian government, also dabbled in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of mind control type medications and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You laughing, But this is real where we played with

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<v Speaker 3>Kanye like he was just going crazy and he's literally

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<v Speaker 3>telling the public what happened to him and what's probably

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<v Speaker 3>happened to a lot of people in the industry, like

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<v Speaker 3>people be randomly just passing away because this same man

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<v Speaker 3>is tied to a lot of other not just black people, right,

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<v Speaker 3>who have since passed away. Right. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes we like just brush Kanye off as being crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>all full of shit, and we're not actually looking at

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<v Speaker 3>what he is trying to say, because he may not

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<v Speaker 3>be the best at articulating right what's going on at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment, but he does give a lot of information

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<v Speaker 3>that we just be writing them off. I just never

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<v Speaker 3>write him off.

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<v Speaker 5>Kanye's put out like five classic albums. He knows how

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<v Speaker 5>to articulate himself, really affective, absolutely, and at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Point I think it's different though. I think, I think that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think and also.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold and wait, beat out, finish your statement.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Point he's just trolling. It's just gone a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>too far. And again, he wants to be provocative. He

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<v Speaker 5>thinks he's being edgy, and I just don't think it's

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<v Speaker 5>funny and it's not. It's dangerous at this point. The

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<v Speaker 5>things that he's saying, it's incendiary, it's inflammatory, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>just disrespectful, it's insulting, it's it's all, it's all those things.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's my take on Kanye West, and hopefully he

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<v Speaker 5>gets his mind right because I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 5>him crash.

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<v Speaker 4>Out the way he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, perspectives, that's it, word up. Perspective perspective. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>people perspective is important.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so all right, so we have a segment of

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<v Speaker 1>our show called uh sim series or DUMBI Story, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to share the time that you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>time that you got played by the opposite sex, So anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>and please try not to do something from high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe something from adulthood. I feel like the men always

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to the ninth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no real easy way to say this, but look, sure, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>So something I did and got played by the opposite said.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a lot of those stories, man, But since

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to keep it up to date, Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember there was this girl I was talking to.

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<v Speaker 5>This is over a decade ago, and me and I

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<v Speaker 5>were kicking it. We weren't intimate at this point where

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<v Speaker 5>we were just kind of still getting to know each other,

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<v Speaker 5>you know whatever. And one day I was in her

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<v Speaker 5>neighborhood and I had passed by like a bodega and

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<v Speaker 5>they were they had flowers out there. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>bought the flowers and I was like, oh, these are nice.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she'll like them. So I passed by her house.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like maybe morning, like eleven o'clockish and I

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<v Speaker 5>ring the bell or call her. I don't remember which

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<v Speaker 5>one I did, and I was like, hey, come outside.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, what are you talking about. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>just come outside. I got something for you. And We're

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<v Speaker 5>going back and forth and eventually she's just like nine

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<v Speaker 5>on one, two whatever, and I'm trying to tell like

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<v Speaker 5>I had flowers for her.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that was turned her off because I

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<v Speaker 4>popped up unexpected. I thought I was doing something nice,

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<v Speaker 4>but it turned out it backfired on me, and she

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<v Speaker 4>didn't call me and talk anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, I always make sure you get home safe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>In hindsight, I thought I was like my raing and

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<v Speaker 5>ship and I was like, damn. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 5>being a nice guy and I wasn't. I was being

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<v Speaker 5>a creep because no women often say I like flowers,

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<v Speaker 5>like spintin eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was being no send them by way

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<v Speaker 3>of instacart. At this point, the flower shops have always

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<v Speaker 3>been delivering just send me flowers. Send him at the

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<v Speaker 3>flower shop.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like fifteen years ago, man, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>thought I was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>The flowers even before the internet. You call and you

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<v Speaker 3>look in the yellow page. Did you get the number?

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<v Speaker 3>You put the order in, You tell them when they

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<v Speaker 3>want when you want to delivered, and it's coming to

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<v Speaker 3>the house in a neighborhood black at. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that happened to me before. And the only reason

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<v Speaker 3>this nigga knew where I lived at is because I

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<v Speaker 3>had called him one day in an emergency because I

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<v Speaker 3>left my toilet tree like suitcase that I had bundershit

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<v Speaker 3>in on my back porch. So I had given him

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<v Speaker 3>my address, like, hey, can you please go buy my house?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I know he didn't live far and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know anybody else I can call right fast go buy

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<v Speaker 3>my house and put this back into my shed. Other

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<v Speaker 3>than that, he never knew where I lived until that

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<v Speaker 3>day I gave him my address, but I did trust

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<v Speaker 3>him enough to, you know, have him go outside my house.

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<v Speaker 3>So now fast forward months later, I kind of, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fell back on whatever. I remember. I was

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<v Speaker 3>sitting at my desk, I was I was doing a wig.

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<v Speaker 3>I was making a wig and and I saw him

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<v Speaker 3>text me and I didn't respond. Next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 3>my fucking doorbell was ringing. I got up, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck are you doing at my house? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what if I had Dick upstairs? That's exactly what I

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<v Speaker 3>said to him, because as single people you can't just

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<v Speaker 3>we are not our parents who didn't have cell phones

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<v Speaker 3>and social media and all these things. You cannot pop

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<v Speaker 3>up at a millennial's house. My nigga, But dumb, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that that story was a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>But she didn't play you. You kind of do that

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself. Your yeah, yeah, and she.

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<v Speaker 4>Might have had a company stuck with me and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, man, that was my villain story.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, that's your villain origin story. I

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<v Speaker 1>buy another bitch flowers ever in.

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<v Speaker 4>High school that was my real villain story. But we

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to go that phone.

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<v Speaker 3>No, go ahead, we want to hear it right quick.

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<v Speaker 3>This tells what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>There was this girl that was in high school that

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<v Speaker 5>I thought was kind of hot, and I asked for

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<v Speaker 5>her phone number. So she gave me the number and

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<v Speaker 5>I called it and it was a rejection hotline and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh shit. So I saw the next

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<v Speaker 5>day and say, hey, you gave me the wrong number.

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<v Speaker 5>She just started laughing at me the way you guys did.

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<v Speaker 4>And that ship. But I got the last laugh, though

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<v Speaker 4>years later.

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<v Speaker 1>What you did some revenge sects to her.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no no, this is as an adult.

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<v Speaker 4>So fast forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I was at the local CBS and at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>we had the rap rate of pockets. We had a

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<v Speaker 5>profile and Ebity magazine, right, so it was a two

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<v Speaker 5>three page spread and I had bought a whole bulk

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<v Speaker 5>of them. And I'm on the line waiting and who

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<v Speaker 5>do I see looking terrible? The same chick and she

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<v Speaker 5>had a badass kids running around and she's looking disheveled

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<v Speaker 5>and shit, and I'm looking good. I had just got

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<v Speaker 5>a face showt and I got a haircut. I was

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<v Speaker 5>hoping somebody saw me and showed up and got like

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<v Speaker 5>a stack of magazines and I'm go into the counter,

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<v Speaker 5>pays like, hey, what's up, you know, make a small talk,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the register that the cash here, he knew who.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my god, beat, what are you

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<v Speaker 4>doing here? You live in this neighborhood? Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the revenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was feeling like, you know, big Willie at

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<v Speaker 4>that moment, and she was looking crazy. So I was

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<v Speaker 4>like God works mysterious ways. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that do feel good that sh on someone who

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<v Speaker 1>shouted on you, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she gave me. That's a little different injection hotline.

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<v Speaker 3>These niggas, they probably be wishing bad on bitches who

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<v Speaker 3>she all at ill will that came probably came from

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<v Speaker 3>you havn't got yes, you probably you probably felt like

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<v Speaker 3>so much disdained for her that you manifested this bad

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<v Speaker 3>life for her, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't had to put him a rejection hotline. She could

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<v Speaker 1>have just told him that she wasn't interested.

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<v Speaker 3>There was I would like that though, So then that way,

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<v Speaker 3>like whenever you don't want to give you a new

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<v Speaker 3>number to a nigga and they standing in your face

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<v Speaker 3>and calling your phone, like you just get a number,

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<v Speaker 3>walk off, like you gave them that rejection hotline number

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<v Speaker 3>instead of your real number and then have it to

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<v Speaker 3>block them later on.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would say no, that could have worked too.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is at the time when like cell phones

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<v Speaker 4>were like still everybody to have a cell phone, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so you had to write it down a piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't wait to go home and call her. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, damn son and just said do you do?

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<v Speaker 5>You got the rejection hotline.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, either you were spinky, you

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<v Speaker 1>were smelling? Are they just I used to have that

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<v Speaker 1>phone number then they.

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<v Speaker 4>Had different area codes in.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Yeah, that's fucked up your tie, your baby,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell everybody, plug yourself, Tell everybody where they can find you,

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<v Speaker 1>all your things that you're doing. Plug it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can find me at B dot B D

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<v Speaker 5>O T T M on Instagram, the YouTube, whatever you

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<v Speaker 5>want to do. You can search me up. I got

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<v Speaker 5>my interview series. I got to get a new guest

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<v Speaker 5>soon called cover Lines. That's out right now. I do

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<v Speaker 5>a weekly series on Instagram called Unlisted, while I do

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<v Speaker 5>a top ten all Things hip Hop, and that's always fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interactive with the stream. And yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 4>got going on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited about the future and your nice website.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on my website. Yeah, I have a website.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure not anymore?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have what I have my own personal website,

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<v Speaker 5>which is B dot Miller dot com. About all that one,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought you messed.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a very nice website.

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<v Speaker 1>You let your own fans go. Everybody about that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you let it go.

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<v Speaker 4>You can see on b dot Miller.

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<v Speaker 5>Dot com, have my bio on there, have my reel

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<v Speaker 5>on there if you want to like get in contact

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<v Speaker 5>with me, you know, bookings.

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<v Speaker 4>In bio like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So how a thank you for joining us, Bryan anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>And never hold them niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, never hold back hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Hold your peace.

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<v Speaker 4>This is