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Speaker 2: Festival's talk talk to them.

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Speaker 1: You're just too unapologetically black women. Then with an opinion,

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Speaker 1: he talks what's up y'all?

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Speaker 3: It's your girl a J holiday?

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Speaker 1: What's up tam BM Hey, I love y'all. I love

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Speaker 1: you AJ. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Do you send me a million dollars?

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Speaker 1: I ain't got it, but when I get it, I'll

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Speaker 1: share it. How's your weekend?

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful? It was spectacular.

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Speaker 1: Oh you look so pretty this weekend. AJ, you look

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Speaker 1: like you did like a nice lady.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, hold on before I tell my weekend. We do

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Speaker 3: have a guest on. We talked back this week y'all. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we have B dizzar.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you got to say all love it like

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Speaker 1: like a tribe. Call quest Brian b dot Miller. Everybody

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Speaker 1: like that accent?

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Speaker 4: Tim Van? What is that Barbados?

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Speaker 1: No, that's I try to sound like, uh a mom?

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Speaker 4: What's your mom from?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my Barbadian? Is that how you did

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Speaker 1: we have? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Brian lashbacks, I want to move to Barbados so bad.

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Speaker 3: Like that's really like goals in life.

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Speaker 1: So let me tell y'all about b dot b Do

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Speaker 1: is a journalist essentially a music journalist and with a

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Speaker 1: focus in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: So he's listen, he's talked to, he's done interviews with

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Speaker 1: all a lot of the greats, most of the greats,

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Speaker 1: so we got like, we want to pick his brain

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Speaker 1: and talk to him about what he knows and give

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Speaker 1: us some of the inside scoop on these niggas.

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Speaker 3: I I appreciate it, on some of the current events

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Speaker 3: and hip hop today. I want to get his take

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Speaker 1: Now, listen, I want to talk about all your weekends. First.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get back to my weekend. How Freddie

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Speaker 3: I was and he was so huge. One of my

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Speaker 3: good friends, la Quandra, we have been friends since middle school,

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Speaker 3: but we reconnected maybe about three years ago now, and

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be like friends with her, like

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Speaker 3: beautiful baby shower for her baby boy that she's having,

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Speaker 3: so I'm like I wanted wings, bitch, I order some wings.

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Speaker 1: The god to walk around down women's baby shower with wing.

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Speaker 3: I was I had a wand and I ain't even

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Speaker 3: a damn my mother, No, but I'm the god mother. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let me tell y'all about my weekend. Y'all. It

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Speaker 1: He was like, hey, listen, I got you on the VIP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like you couldn't you couldn't get on

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Speaker 1: It was down bad, it was put up, But I

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Speaker 1: twenty two miles. It felt like so but it was

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Speaker 1: a good time. What about you, Brian Boy.

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Speaker 5: As you alluded to, I was at Dreamville Fest. I'm

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Speaker 5: still recovering from Dreamville Fest. I walked at least sixty

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Speaker 4: I was walking like a civil rights activist.

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Speaker 5: It was bad like in fact, my friends I got

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Speaker 5: a great time at Dreamville Fest. The first day I

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Speaker 5: I just enjoyed my time with my friends. I had

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Speaker 5: I was really happy with this week. In the outcome,

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Speaker 5: I was looking for you.

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Speaker 1: Ten but you know, minus one. That's what I was about,

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Speaker 5: Was in I know, I know next year, God will

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to come.

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Speaker 3: Through Ludacris, right, I don't have to be on that

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well I needed to download that because it

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Speaker 1: was so bad, like you couldn't get a text to

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Speaker 3: It was just over, you know, in one area.

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Speaker 4: You know. We just had to do a little bit finessing,

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Speaker 4: She was Lucris Man.

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Speaker 4: It was like the million Mare in March. It was

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Speaker 1: Cobain is headlining this shit next year. Okay, because I.

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Speaker 3: Rest time he's changing the name of it. It's not

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Speaker 1: It's still gonna be Dreamville Fast. It's just gonna be

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Speaker 3: It's just maybe he's selling the festival.

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Speaker 1: You think. Yeah, it's something something like that is happening

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Speaker 1: where you know, because it brings like they the Raleigh

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be branded into something else. It might

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Speaker 4: Who knows, but we're gonna have to wait another twelve

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Speaker 4: months to figure that out.

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Speaker 3: But it's in Raleigh. Yeah, Why did I think it

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Speaker 3: was in Fedville?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm there made neighbors.

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Speaker 4: No Cole is from Fayetteville, but you know he's putting

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Speaker 1: I guess Faveville don't have no space like that to

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Speaker 3: I don't think interesting, And I need to give him

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Speaker 3: the key to the city ship. You bringing that type

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Speaker 3: of money in? Yeah, day fuck you want to do

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Speaker 3: around there?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You could not have possibly been that fucking scared because

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Speaker 1: just like, damn, that's so mean, Like can you imagine

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Speaker 3: Like that girl is married?

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Speaker 1: Also, yeah, it was a bad scene. So basically, Bravo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but she doesn't have a peach anymore, so maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, popped off and listen. The girl came to the

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Speaker 3: Her apologets already committed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she couldn't do that, you know, she.

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Speaker 3: Committed to being an evil bitch.

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Speaker 3: It is not She's not happy. She's real miserable, and

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Speaker 3: You have a lucky act like that.

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Speaker 1: You're so beautiful, why you know you too? Not saying

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Speaker 1: I don't know a hurtful person would do something like that.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I know her important.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you have something to add right there.

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Speaker 4: You're with this pic with a poster, like, do you

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Speaker 4: go to Kinko's and say, hey, I want to get

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Speaker 3: Who is patty enough to do that ship at Kinko's

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Speaker 3: because y'all.

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Speaker 1: Need to be fine no more.

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Speaker 3: She postalized that ship like it's probably like ups office

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I need a fifty fifty of this picture

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Speaker 3: Depot did that ship? I feel like off Office Depot

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Speaker 3: got a lot of equipment they did that ship got.

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Speaker 1: Pop copy, remember Dave Chappelle pop cop Definitely pop copy

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Speaker 3: Shame on her, man, I need I need a can

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Speaker 3: you to go get some goddamn therapy? Yeah? Now what

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the girl being a video of Vixen?

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Speaker 1: You were too man, And I know you do suck

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Speaker 1: some dick, you know, like you suck some dick in

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Speaker 1: this life. She's all fifty years old. I know, she's

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Speaker 1: at least had one dick in her mouth in this

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Speaker 1: lifetime on camera. I don't know about on camera, but

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a little different.

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Speaker 3: That's next level. On camera's next level.

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Speaker 4: Well, at least homegirl could just take the picture, maybe

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Speaker 1: Point, no throw that away, burn it. Nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hanging up nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, because she's married and has like

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Speaker 3: a you know, she's trying to have a child like,

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Speaker 3: You know, she was a little bit younger, bitch started

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Speaker 3: only fans just turn the lemon into lemonade. But nah, man,

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Speaker 3: she really could have in this girl's life with that ship.

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Speaker 3: Nobody was checking for it now. I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Kenya didn't have to go too far for the research

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Speaker 3: because you know, Twitter, they be on everybody fucking neck

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Speaker 3: like that ship probably was just Google, I mean, put

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Speaker 3: checking for that? I don't. I can't be that mean.

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Speaker 3: Y'all don't think I'm real mean, but I have, Like

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Speaker 1: Right, you don't. That's why I said, that's a hurtful

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if a motherfucker deserve it, I cannot find

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Speaker 3: it in my soul. Is just be that nasty to somebody, right,

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Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 1: So what about this? I know y'all saw this video.

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Speaker 1: I know you saw it. Beat that or maybe you

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Speaker 1: didn't because you was at Dreamville and the VIP without

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Speaker 1: me they had, all right, So a New York City

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Speaker 1: woman decked a pro life activist claimed she was provoked

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Speaker 1: UH two black women were having a discussion, a heated

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Speaker 3: Choice, and.

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Speaker 1: The interviewer got punched in the mouth and punching the

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Speaker 1: an argument going around about like what's she right? Like

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Speaker 1: it's good that you punched that pro life for her,

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Speaker 1: and so weird, imagine.

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Speaker 3: Mad because somebody is pro life take away like everything else.

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Speaker 3: Just listen to that pro life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane to me. For instance, it's an alternative

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Speaker 3: Pro life pro death exactly. So when you look at

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Speaker 3: the face because you can't take what they're saying about life,

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Speaker 3: right right, come on, what is happening? And I think

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Speaker 3: because it's bigger than the argument. Right now, we go

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Speaker 3: talk to her exactly. That you need to check yourself

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Speaker 3: because it's showing like some real life mental illness right now.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of hatred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that video disappointed me, you know, because just because

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Speaker 5: she should have been locked up, or she should have

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Speaker 5: think it sends a bad message just because I disagree

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Speaker 4: That's not cool. So she should have.

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Speaker 1: Took that mic and wore her You had a whole

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Speaker 1: ass out with that mic. She was me, No, she

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Speaker 3: How this shit was like, she really snuck the fuck

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Speaker 3: did you piss her off so much that she had

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Speaker 3: to put her hands on you. I just haven't done

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Speaker 3: small fifteen second clip online, bitch, you need to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to go to jail, in jail for

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Speaker 1: And if you can't, then just walk away. You're on

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Speaker 1: the city street. Nobody is holding you hostage to have

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Speaker 3: Give her the needle.

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Speaker 1: Is the extreme.

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Speaker 3: She'd probably be probably.

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Speaker 1: Life, so don't give her the needle.

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Speaker 3: Actually, she's pro choice, So bitch, do you want the.

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Speaker 1: Fire and squad? No, I'm talking about the girl. The

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Speaker 1: mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: We talk about abortions, not when people do heinous crimes

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Speaker 1: That's not heinous. Is extreme for just hitting somebody. Now,

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Speaker 1: he was bleeding, she was bleding. Obviously she couldn't fight

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Speaker 1: she should have got wore out. I ain't gonna lie,

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Speaker 1: I had on a two thousand dollars dress. I was

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Speaker 1: This is in Miami at lived and this girl hit me,

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Speaker 1: and it was I didn't even know her, you know, Like,

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Speaker 1: So why did because I was the biggest.

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Speaker 3: One was impossible of beef?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 4: It was beef. It was real beef.

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Speaker 3: That meat was really beyond beef. Bitch.

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Speaker 1: She hit me, and I was stunned because I just

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Speaker 1: I got hit, and she pulled my hair and then

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Speaker 1: like we was knocking the Mario coins out her head like,

441
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Speaker 1: but let me tell you did like because she turned

442
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: around when I started tagging that head, so she kicked

443
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: backwards with her uh, with her heel and then caught

444
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: me in the sh and it did not hurt that day. Well, baby,

445
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: walking through the airport the next day Auntie was limping.

446
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Why wasn't Auntie? I was young for that man. Damn,

447
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: there was no footage. Somebody hit the table.

448
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: It was bad.

449
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: You need it.

450
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Speaker 1: All right.

451
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: So Asha Howard addresses comments regarding her child with Anthony Edwards.

452
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: So Anthony Edwards uh X addressed what she what she

453
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: called lies and fake news after rumors that the Minnesota

454
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 3: Timberwolves star requested to pay more than a million dollars

455
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: upfront for eighteen years of child support for their daughter.

456
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: Aubrey Summer. Edwards is the baby's name, who was born

457
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Speaker 3: law last according to news outlets. So I had to

458
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 3: ask y'aut who Anthony Edwards was.

459
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: But now I know, okay, young basketball player, and it

460
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: seems like he's having a lot of unprotected sex. It

461
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: seems like it's a lot of girls popping up with

462
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: babies by this man, and he's saying that he don't

463
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: want any of the kids. Now, I have mixed feelings

464
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: about this, because if a woman gets pregnant and decides

465
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Speaker 1: that she don't want the kid, there's things that she

466
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: can do. If a man gets a woman pregnant and

467
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: decides he don't want the kid, we're like, you should

468
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: have used the kind of you should have used discernment,

469
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: now you need Oh you a daddby father. Oh you

470
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: don't want the kid, And that just seems kind of

471
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: like unfair in a way. So I have mixed feelings

472
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: about it because I do feel like every like if

473
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Speaker 1: the if the kid exists, you should take care of

474
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Speaker 1: it or get a set. To me, if you don't

475
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: want kids, there's an options for you as well, you know.

476
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: But I do feel like I can understand from a

477
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: man's perspective, like, why is it for her to say, like, oh,

478
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: I can terminate this child, but I have to be

479
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: a part of it, right.

480
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Speaker 3: Why you ain't just say that this was baby low

481
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: Baby baby mama. Why you ain't just tell me that?

482
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: When I asked, y'all who Anthony Edwards was anyway.

483
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Speaker 1: Baby mama?

484
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that is Low Babies baby mama. Anthony is little

485
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: Babies baby the baby mama Anthony Edwards baby mama is

486
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: low Baby's baby mama. What I should have said?

487
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, how so.

488
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Speaker 3: Anyway, here's the thing. Dumb babies come out that man's

489
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: nuts first. That's your child, sir? Why you give me that?

490
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: So you should have the we don't want to cultivate.

491
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Speaker 3: If you didn't want it to cultivate, why did you

492
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Speaker 3: give it to me? So you mean to tell me

493
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Speaker 3: that this young boy is going around and pregnant in

494
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: multiple people and then flipping on them like I don't

495
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Speaker 3: want because they're referring to her as an X So

496
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: was he in a relationship with her or not when

497
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Speaker 3: she conceived and he decided he didn't want to be

498
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Speaker 3: there after after the fact. There has to be like

499
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Speaker 3: some type of repercussions for that shit. I do believe,

500
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: And we talk about this shit all the time, like

501
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: I'm down the middle with the things I do not

502
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: believe in struggling. Then I also, you know, like I

503
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of people who are happy to

504
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: exist right now because they moms made the choice.

505
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: To have swallow them or circummen.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so boy, this is where they need to come

507
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 3: up with some type of birth control for men, because

508
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: y'all want to control what the fuck women can do

509
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: with our like what we do with our bodies in

510
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: every which way, and men are out here being careless

511
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: their entire lives, ruining lives, creating broken homes, creating baby mamas.

512
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Speaker 1: It does shoot out of y'all. First, you know it's

513
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Speaker 1: your baby.

514
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Speaker 3: First, that's your motherfucker. You leave me with a baby,

515
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Speaker 3: I'm putting that baby on the porch, calling you from

516
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Speaker 3: the corner.

517
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: What i'maids, what I'm gonna do? What is.

518
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Speaker 3: Especially as a boy, Like what the fuck I'm gonna

519
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 3: do with a little nigga? Like, come get your baby?

520
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: That's terrible, A little man, a little boy. What i'ma

521
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 3: do with your little baby? Like, come get your kid?

522
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: Little baby?

523
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Speaker 5: Look, I mean I see, I see both sides of

524
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: the corner, right, I mean, I don't think if a

525
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 5: man doesn't want to have a child, a woman should

526
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 5: you know, respect that. Take that to consideration after the consummation.

527
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: Maybe take that pill that you know lasts up to

528
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 5: what forty eight hours, seventy two.

529
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Speaker 1: Hours at that point, But I think you would have

530
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: had the conversation in advance. You don't know you're pregnant

531
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Speaker 1: in forty eight hours, you know, listen.

532
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: I know what I did.

533
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna take your ass the Walgreens, pay

534
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 5: that fifty dollars, and you're gonna swallow the pills. Okay,

535
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: because it was a mistake, But at the same time,

536
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: Anthony also has to take accountability for his actions, you know,

537
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: especially if you're weeks and months into the pregnancy. You know,

538
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: like what's done is done, the eggs are already scrambled.

539
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: Then you know you have to take you have to

540
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: man up their consequences to your actions.

541
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: So I see it from both angles, and even.

542
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: Just saying take the pill, like you don't have to

543
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: go to that, you cannot just keep taking. I'm pretty

544
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: sure this girl has taken plenty of Plan b's in

545
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: her like that.

546
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: It is not good for your body.

547
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: It's not you give me a body like like a

548
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: super soup up a bunch of estrogen and whatever else.

549
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to force now a miscarriage

550
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: essentially if the baby did if there was implementation implantation

551
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: at some point possibly right, or I guess the first

552
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: seventy two hours you're trying to kill sperm essentially, Yeah,

553
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: spirm no implementation, Yeah.

554
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, it's either that or eighteen years of

555
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: a headache.

556
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Speaker 4: You know, you you pick. So I mean prays for

557
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: everybody involved, maybe less to say.

558
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: And hopefully that baby grows up to do something amazing, right.

559
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: It's just sad too, because you know, kids do grow

560
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 5: up and you can see things on the internet, you

561
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: can read things, and you know, yeah, my dad didn't

562
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 5: want me.

563
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: Like that's that's.

564
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Messed up, and that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes it does,

565
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: she said.

566
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Speaker 3: One more thing to add on the bottom, she said.

567
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: She stated that she is often labeled a gold digger

568
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: due to her history of having a child with a

569
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: successful artist, but say that she does not appreciate the

570
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: comments suggesting that she kept her baby with Edwards for

571
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: a check and child support rumors. That is fucked up.

572
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: She kept her baby because she's pregnant, and maybe she

573
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: doesn't want to have an abortion. Maybe she's taking accountability

574
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: and accepting her blessing. How about that? How about that?

575
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't agree.

576
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fucking public. We're gonna kick it to some

577
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: sponsors and we'll be right back after this break.

578
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Speaker 1: All right, now, we're bad guys. Beat out. Let's talk

579
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: about you. Let's talk about all the things you've done,

580
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: because you're so amazing. Le'll be talking to So tell

581
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: us how you started, Like, how did you become a

582
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: music journalist?

583
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: Well it started back in the turn of the century.

584
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: Back when I was in college and I went to

585
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: Delaware State University and I was freelancer for a bunch

586
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: of magazines at the time. And then once I graduated college,

587
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: the day after, I started working at Harvest Publications, which

588
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 5: is the parent company for magazines like ex Excel, King Rides,

589
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: and Slam Magazines. So I was already integrated into the system.

590
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: And yeah, I was doing that for a long time,

591
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: and then I pivoted into doing a blog era with

592
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 5: rap Radar dot Com in two thousand and eight, two

593
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Speaker 5: thousand and nine.

594
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, how does one cause

595
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, I I would love to write for a magazine,

596
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: how do you want to go about it? Because it's

597
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: not like you can just wake up today and be like, hey, yeah,

598
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm about to go write for Essence, you know, like

599
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: you gotta.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, well, time is different now, you know, the

601
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: game is definitely different.

602
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: Magazines aren't what they used to be.

603
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: When I was writing, it was a really lucrative and

604
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 5: it was a profitable business to be in. You know,

605
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: you used to get like a dollar word if you

606
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 5: wrote like a three thousand dour three thousand word piece

607
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 5: or something like that.

608
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: But those days are kind of over.

609
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 5: But it was just about pitching editors, you know, if

610
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Speaker 5: you had an idea of reaching out to somebody that

611
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: was in charge and hopefully they liked your idea.

612
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: It was really that really that simple. But those are

613
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: the good old days.

614
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: It's not like that no more.

615
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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

616
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Speaker 5: It's even hard to find like a magazine, like a

617
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: news stand, like you know, unless you're in the supermarket

618
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: or in a major metropolitan area.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're not like how they used to be.

620
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, magazines everywhere exactly, and.

621
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Speaker 4: It kind of expensive too.

622
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Speaker 5: I don't want to say print is dead because I

623
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: still have a lot of colleagues in the business, but

624
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: it's not where it used to be, that's for sure.

625
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I don't. I can't remember the last

626
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: time I actually went out and purchased a magazine. I

627
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: don't even know, like a grocery score, yeah, you know,

628
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know where to get one.

629
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Speaker 3: I have newspapers because when certain things happen, I'll go

630
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: by like a New York Times newspaper, or I'll go

631
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: buy the local newspaper, like when the wars and shit started.

632
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: Because I just feel like we're gonna like they have

633
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: the most correct information in the newspapers. Nobody is expecting

634
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: you to read, right.

635
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: But those are becoming more of like collector's.

636
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: Items, like, but there are some people that are still

637
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: like tangible media, Like some people love reading actual books

638
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 5: versus the kindle.

639
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: So I get it, but it's not the majority of

640
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: how it used to be. It's more of a minority.

641
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: So I am a book early. It's either like an

642
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: actual page turner or audible. Yeah, but Kendall, I won't

643
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: do I don't want to read it on a phone. Yeah,

644
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: it needs to be a book or listen.

645
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: And even with audio audible, like I'll listen to that

646
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: my sleep, but I still have to really read to comprehend.

647
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: I'll listen to things, but I still got to read

648
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: the book and that's afterwards.

649
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: I'm kind of kind of the same way.

650
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: Like even to this day, I still have all my

651
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: old magazines because I love tangible media, and I use

652
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: them as reference points if I have to interview somebody,

653
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: you know, that's like a lexi acent like that.

654
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: So it's still it's still useful for sure.

655
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Speaker 1: Now, AJ had a very interesting question about Kendrick Lamar

656
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: and Drake, and I want her to ask it because

657
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was all right. So my friend is

658
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: a conspiracy Theoristka.

659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: First of all, I'm not a conspiracy anything. I am

660
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: a realist, right, And if we want to call people

661
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist, we probably like one hundred and oh right

662
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: now rather or not. Y'a've seen you know the truth

663
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: or not? I can't. You know. I'm no longer arguing

664
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: people's perspective anymore, but I do like to hear other

665
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: people's perspective on things. So I am a Gemini, right,

666
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: so I be trusting Geminis. I trust Kendrick Lamar. I

667
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: still fuck with Kanye even if niggas is still trying

668
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: to ostracize Kanye West. Okay, because a lot of times

669
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: we just don't be right now for niggas, and it's understandable.

670
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: I want your perspective on the Kendrick Lamar and Drake

671
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: beef because from our very first episode, I said that

672
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: Drake is the white man that infiltrated hip hop. Okay,

673
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about Drake, like people want to

674
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: think about Eminem, all these all these other white folks

675
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: that know Drake studied hip hop like a college course,

676
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: and he succeeded. He's kum Lati he is, you know,

677
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: he's that nigga right. So after further, because Tam hated us,

678
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: she hated all of us during the time, she even

679
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: got out our group chat because we just like, yeah, Kendrake,

680
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: fu fuck that white man's like, you know, just wilding out,

681
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: you know, just picking side essentially. But I am a

682
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: true Gemini, so I do stay down the middle, so

683
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: I can see both sides of all the things, right,

684
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: And I know that we do not own this industry.

685
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: We are definitely of the music, the you know, we

686
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: don't really own the culture, the culture anymore essentially. So

687
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: do you feel like there could have possibly been a sanction,

688
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: like somebody sanctioned that's above everybody's head, sanctioned this attack

689
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: on Drake? No, no, oh no.

690
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 4: No no no.

691
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 5: I respect the conspiracy theory, you know, but now I

692
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 5: don't think it's I think it's a little bit more

693
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: simplified than that, you know. Okay, this has been a

694
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 5: battle that's been brewined for a long time. It's been

695
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 5: bubbling in hip hop conversations for a while, and I

696
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: think it was just one of these moments where Kendrick

697
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I'm the best. I don't

698
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: want to share this big three throne. I don't want to,

699
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: you know, share the crown. I'm the best rap in

700
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: the game. And if you feel otherwise, prove it. And

701
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 5: that's what happened. I was the gist of it. I

702
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: feel like Kendrick came out on top that simple though.

703
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: Once you start calling somebody a pedo, a PDF file

704
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, you know, is it that simple?

705
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: Love is a battlefield and so is hip hop and

706
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 5: it's just about the war of the words, like who

707
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: can say, who can insult somebody the best or you know,

708
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: you know, make you feel inferior. And I think that's

709
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: what Kendrick did, you know, effectively, you know, not like us.

710
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: It's like one of the not like us.

711
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: It's almost like one of those iconic hip hop songs,

712
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 5: kind of like a Baby Got Back or like jump

713
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 5: around like or you know, like one of those songs

714
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: is going to be here forever, like I Sight's Baby

715
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 5: Can't touch It. It's like one of those one of

716
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: those iconic rap songs. It's going to be here forever.

717
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 5: It's more than just a disrecord at this point, it's

718
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 5: like part of pop culture absolutely.

719
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: To me, like just the words of the song and

720
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: even the other song when he came up with kill

721
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: the Party whatever, like all all those songs are more

722
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: than just songs. And I don't even think it really

723
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: has anything to do with Drake. At some point the

724
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: content in these lyrics to me, because my brain go

725
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: a step further with a lot of things, it was,

726
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: it didn't seem like it was all about It's not

727
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: all about Drake. They not like us, they not like us.

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: It's not all about Drake.

729
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: No, it's definitely all about Drake. I just think at

730
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 4: this point, Yeah.

731
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: Kendrick is way more complex than I think he. I

732
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: think he put he put everybody in the fucking pot

733
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: and cooked them.

734
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: No, it's it's definitely about Drake. But because Drake's the target.

735
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: But I think the song has become so big it's

736
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: like the macarena, right, Like it's transcended as a disrecord.

737
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: It's just like a record at this point, and Drakes

738
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 5: just so happens to be the focus of it.

739
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: So when Kendrick Lamar did Kendrick and Friends, and I will, Yeah,

740
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: that's where I met you had to pop out. I

741
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: was just so my flabbers were gassed because all the

742
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: white people were like, they're not like us, they not

743
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: like us, And I was looking, like, we talk about y'all,

744
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm even bigger than drink like y'all not

745
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: even But that says something about the white consciousness and

746
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: psyche that they're not even offended. They don't even care

747
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: they're in there because like it should be insulting to you,

748
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, in some way it should be insulting, but

749
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: instead you're in here cripwalking to think about.

750
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: Hip hop for better for worse.

751
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: It's an inclusive culture, right, Like we talk about inclusivity

752
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: a lot in today's society. There's no more there's no

753
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 5: culture that's more inclusive than hip hop. So you know,

754
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: whether you're black, White, Puerto Rica, y Haitian, you're down

755
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: with us.

756
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So it transcends race, creed,

757
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: economic status.

758
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 5: So if you get it, you get it, you know,

759
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 5: And I think that's the reason why people like you're

760
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: saying Tan felt comfortable reciting the words the way they

761
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 5: were at the in the spaces because they feel like

762
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 5: they're on they're part of the culture.

763
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: And they are like us, is what they assume.

764
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the reason.

765
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: About me is about.

766
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: Nig ship. They don't necessarily like niggas though they not

767
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: like us, I.

768
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Think, but I think in their minds perhaps they are,

769
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, right, because.

770
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 5: If you're let's say you're a white person that loves

771
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: hip hop music, you grew up in hip hop culture,

772
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 5: you can identify with what Kendrick Lamar is saying. You know,

773
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: your your hip hop regardless of your skin color. And

774
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: I feel like, Okay, if Kendrick is saying you're not

775
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: like that, I'm down with that. I'm down with this cause.

776
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: So I think that's why people identify.

777
00:38:52,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: With Speaking of since we got in touching on race, yes,

778
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: me and Charlemagne got into heated discussion about people who

779
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: are Puerto Rican and Hispanic using the INN words. So

780
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: gratu is this right?

781
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

782
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: And is it okay? Is it okay? Like for the

783
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: fact Joe's the Cardi B's the people who are you know,

784
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: of Hispanic culture to use the N word like they do,

785
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: why do we give them a pass? You know, especially

786
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: in hip hop?

787
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: I think it depends on where you're from, right, Like

788
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: I'm born and raised in New York City, South Jamerica,

789
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: Queens to be specific, right, and get.

790
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: The money dollars, got money where you're from, Queens from Queens.

791
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: Right. When you're from New York City, you're surrounded by

792
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: all kinds of ethnicities, you know what I'm saying, Like,

793
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: it's just we're all bunched together. So if someone is from.

794
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: Another place, so another city of town, and they hear

795
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: a non black, first of nobody should be saying the

796
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 5: word period. Right, yes, let's just be clear. We shouldn't

797
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: be saying it anyway. So when you're from out of

798
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 5: town and you hear somebody that's not black say it,

799
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: it's almost alarming. It's like, oh my gosh, what did

800
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: you are you hearing this? It's like, and you from

801
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 5: New York, that's your first word. It's not mama, it's

802
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: not that.

803
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: It's nigga, damn. That's that's just what it is, you

804
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, everything's a nigga in New York.

805
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: It's almost like a verb. It's a noun. It's an adjective.

806
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: That's just what it is. And it's the way we

807
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: grew up in New York City.

808
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 5: Like if you grow up, go to a public school,

809
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: you going to school with a black kid, you going

810
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 5: with an Asian kid, white, and everyone just saying it's

811
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: just part of it's it's it's a fucked up way

812
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 5: of thinking, but that's just what it is. That's the

813
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: reality of how it is growing up in New York City.

814
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: And it's it's crazy because New York City not many people,

815
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: kind of a small space geographically, but it has such

816
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 5: an impact on the world, you know, So I can

817
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: understand why some people are so offended by that, and

818
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: like it's hard to comprehend and understand.

819
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: I don't get offended by it.

820
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: Thought, Yeah, I don't. I don't know that's important. Yeah,

821
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, somebody, a white person just better not directly

822
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: say hey, nigga to me per se like that. I

823
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: would have a problem with that.

824
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think again, I'm not to cut

825
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: you off, AJ, But I think context is important, right,

826
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: because I have white people that they're not trying to

827
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: be hurtful, but they just say it in conversation to you.

828
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not so a white guy would be

829
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: like this nigga cutting me.

830
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: Off in traffic it's see, it's content with that icy

831
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 3: not hickey, that hic down South hick accent in my head.

832
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: Like I don't know about y'all. Racism be funny to me, man,

833
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: like I could have survived a sixty I'll just be

834
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: laughing at someone was being disrespectful to me, Like you, nigga.

835
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: I've never been like I have never like had like

836
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: overt racism happened to me, you know, by the hands

837
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: of a white person. It was a Hispanic man who

838
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 3: called me and my little cousin, me and my cousins

839
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: monkeys when we were kids.

840
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 5: That happened, right, I've experienced things like that. But like again,

841
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: it's just all about how you're saying what you're saying it,

842
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's just like time and

843
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: place a little bit, you know, Like I know when

844
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: you're trying to be hurtful or disrespectful, but if you're

845
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: talking to me in a way where it's like as

846
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: if the communication is mutual, I'm not like offended by that.

847
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: And as a journalist, you know, I'm not offended by words.

848
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: I've heard it all offended you know, come to me.

849
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: But why can't we say Jewish right. You see how

850
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: they they coven their their religion, you know what I'm saying.

851
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: You see how they they they are now creating hate

852
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: speech doctrines and laws and shit like that. Like I

853
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: feel like that's how we as black people need to

854
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: start gate keeping shit understand, because it's a reason why

855
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: that they move the way they do and why they

856
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: are successful as as successful as they already do not

857
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: tolerate disrespect in any capacity. And I feel like that's

858
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: the type of ship we need to be honest with.

859
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 1: Cooking.

860
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: You can't say that ship.

861
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: No, I agree with you.

862
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: We of this culture, of this culture we supposedly don't have.

863
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: Now, you're right.

864
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a hypocrite, you know when it comes

865
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: to that as well, because I try my heart. It's

866
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: especially not to say it within mixed company. I try

867
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 5: not to say it at all, but it's like it's

868
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: almost indoctrinated at this point. But we do collectively need

869
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: to come up with you know, it needs to be

870
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 5: like if someone called me colored, I'd be offended if

871
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 5: someone said negro of it, like some almost like what

872
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: like it's such an antiquated term to call somebody.

873
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Colored, Like what I lost a friend because she said

874
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: colored people.

875
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: She's white.

876
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We were drunk at the waffle house.

877
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The conversation was, we were talking about

878
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: being lactose and tolerant, and she asked our server, who

879
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: was a black woman, she said, are colored people really

880
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: lactose and tolerant? Looked at me like this your people?

881
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: So I had to like, and I was like, really

882
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: drunk and maybe how I because I don't think she

883
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: meant offense by it, you know, in hindsight. But I

884
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: went over. I got up out my seat and I

885
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: went over to her, and I stroked her head and

886
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: I whispered in her ear, if you ever say colored

887
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: people again, I'm gonna whoop your motherfucking ass, Brittany. He

888
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: looked at me, and she saw I was very serious,

889
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: and she never spoke to me again. We were not

890
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: friends after that, and I probably could have uh not

891
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: been stroking her head and letting her know, like, bitch,

892
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: this is real.

893
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: Like I got a gun for bitches like you.

894
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: There's a way that wasn't like because I don't in hindsight,

895
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't think she meant it.

896
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: From no, but what you learn when you have friends

897
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: who are white, that the ones like you have have

898
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: camaraderie with their family be racist, Like they'll tell you,

899
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: like my people, like one of my only white home girl,

900
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: I know her family in Tennessee do not like black

901
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: people like that, you know what I'm saying.

902
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's probably and she definitely was from one

903
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: of those families. And I know that's why colored rolled

904
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: off her tongue so smooth like that.

905
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: That is some old down South nasty.

906
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: You're offended by that word, Like that's how we should

907
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 5: be offended by saying the N word or other words

908
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 5: like that, because it sounds it's antiquated. No one says

909
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: that anymore, you know, So I don't know, maybe it's

910
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 5: bigger than me and all of us at this point.

911
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 5: You just need to come collectively and just change the

912
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 5: way we speak, in the way we think.

913
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Right, we just need a paradigm shift and this way yeah, consciousness.

914
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh, we should just start calling them. I said, I'm

915
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: going to start saying Caucasian American, all right, European American

916
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: calling as black Americans. You see what I'm saying. So

917
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: we just got to start flipping a strip on them, like, yeah,

918
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: it was a it was a European American guy.

919
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I never.

920
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: I never subscribed to the term African American personally. I

921
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: never liked it because I'm a black American.

922
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: What is somebody from.

923
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Canadall, You're just American essentially, right, Yeah, you are, you.

924
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: Know, because you know they're black people all across the world.

925
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: What if something like Pele, the soccer player that died

926
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: from Brazil, is he African American?

927
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: No, he's from Brazil. You know.

928
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: That's why we can't take these things lightly because the

929
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: language is already a curse. And in the way that

930
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: they do stuff intentionally to us, it is to intentionally

931
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 3: not tie us to this land. That's why they calling

932
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: us African American. They want to make sure we always

933
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: feel like we don't have a fucking home. Meanwhile, this

934
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: has been our ship before it was theirs. They are

935
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: they are more immigrants than us, right, you see what

936
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So we do have to like take this

937
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: shiit seriously. It's not like, I mean, I don't care

938
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: about the word nigger and that like nigger, y'all right,

939
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't care about the word nigga like that. I

940
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: even spell a different you know, what I'm saying. I

941
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: spell a k n E A k n e g

942
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: a h nigga. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I

943
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: even spell nigga different, you know, just to take the

944
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: power from it.

945
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was out and someone called me a

946
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: nigger hardy r right now, I think I would be

947
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: like ooh ooh word like it don't it don't affect

948
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: me like I think it would have fifteen years ago.

949
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: Right. That comes with evolution, you know.

950
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: And oh you hurt my feeling?

951
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what, Yeah, I don't be like you and nigga.

952
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: Don't call me fat. That's a fighting word for me.

953
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Call me fat.

954
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: You win. You already win, like I'm calling my mom like.

955
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: You can't hurt me with that because I know I'm

956
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: not that. I am a little on the chunky side.

957
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: Gosh had them, you know, not the little ones. They had,

958
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: like the bigger containers on sound And I definitely bought

959
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: a strawberry Adam vanoa. Okay, that ship.

960
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the transition for rappers. Like, allright, so,

961
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: as hip hop is getting older, some of our artists

962
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: are getting older and some people like all right, so

963
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: for Jay Z, for instance, his content is changing with him.

964
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he still has the same following

965
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: at theme this time? Are the young people like listening

966
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: to jay Z? Then you have like the Jim Joneses

967
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: who who's content might not be evolving.

968
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: It just sounds like a Jim Whyan That's what we're

969
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 3: calling that nigga going forward? Why in Jim? Why in Jim?

970
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what I'm saying, Like he like

971
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: a young old nigga, yea a grown boy his content,

972
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: you know. And I did listen to his last album

973
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: came out like a couple of years ago, could be

974
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: around the same time as four four four probably, But

975
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: this recent freestyle I saw him do, I'm like, man like,

976
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: if you don't throw the fuck up?

977
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: Boy. So my question to you is should they age

978
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: out of hip hop?

979
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Nah?

980
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 4: I think if you still have something great to say.

981
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: I don't think hip hop has a specific age for

982
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: listenership Like jay Z. It's been almost eight years since

983
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 5: his last album. We're still waiting on new content from him.

984
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure he has a lot to say

985
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: and a lot to talk about. But I also think

986
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 5: it's like a misconception. It seems like as if a

987
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 5: person has to be on under twenty five for their

988
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: listenership to be valued. You know, people that are in

989
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: their thirties and forties and fifties and someone still love rap.

990
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't know why there's so much emphasis on you know,

991
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: like the age is eleven to eighteen, as if that's

992
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: the only people that listen to hip hop. You know,

993
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: there's a lot of rappers with different perspectives that have

994
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: things to offer, things to say. So I don't think

995
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: jay Z at this point cares if someone is eighteen

996
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 5: years old listening to him. You know he's gonna be

997
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 5: good regardless. And at this point in his life, I

998
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: don't think he's making music for money. So just music

999
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: to you know, art, this is art at this point.

1000
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: But niggas he makes it. He's like, man, I make

1001
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: this this for these niggas.

1002
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: In ptition, you know, it's like a hobby or like

1003
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: you know, she started to do it for him just

1004
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 5: to get his message across. So as far as agent

1005
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: or not, if you said, have something great to say

1006
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: and it connects, I'm all for it, regardless of age.

1007
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: So I'm finding that, like older artists are well I'll

1008
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: speak to one artist, Andre three thousand, said nobody wanted

1009
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say, or he couldn't

1010
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: come up with anything to say.

1011
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: Andre's full of shit. And I like Andre three thousand.

1012
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: I met him a couple of times hung out, but

1013
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: I hate when he does his self deprecating shit.

1014
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you're great, You're one of the greatest.

1015
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: Trying to be humble fake come yeah, it's like the humanly.

1016
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what to say, like cut it out, man,

1017
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 5: Like big Boy is one of my favorites, and you're

1018
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: still performing at a high level, you know, And he

1019
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 5: has a lot to say.

1020
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: So Andre, you know this humility tour that he's on,

1021
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: like cut it out.

1022
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: But remember many many years ago, I remember him saying,

1023
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: trying to outdo the last verse that I burst. That

1024
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: is my curse. So maybe he does feel like he

1025
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: can't say. But he came out with that flute shit

1026
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: and I was disappointed.

1027
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: No, I was not.

1028
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: I still listen to that.

1029
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I still go to sleep listen oh that, I go

1030
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: to sleep to it.

1031
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, meditation music. If I go to sleep to it,

1032
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: I meditate to it. I be playing it in the

1033
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 3: house like sometimes I'll even turn like some zen shit

1034
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: on YouTube, or I'll put that album on YouTube, like

1035
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: the candles and shit. So when I walk in, I

1036
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: feel like, right, that is a good album.

1037
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, it's good for that, but I'm not like, oh,

1038
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: let me get dressed, I'm about to put on this

1039
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: flute out for that.

1040
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: It's not for that. It's like for you to connect consciously,

1041
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: right and subconsciously. It's just it's different.

1042
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: It's not rap, but that's not what we love. Andred

1043
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: three thousand for right exactly his.

1044
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: I love him now because he could do all the things.

1045
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: That makes me love him even more that he put

1046
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: this album out, a flute album like what niggas is doing.

1047
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: The best part of the album for me was the

1048
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: titles of the songs like yeah and that was let

1049
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: to So it's still you can do that rap over

1050
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: that fucking flute. Andre God damn.

1051
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: So when it comes to hundred two thousand, it really

1052
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: pisses me off when he said that, because also it

1053
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: sets the tone for a lot of other artists. You know,

1054
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: it's just a bad predic resident like, oh, I'm a

1055
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: certain age, I gotta rap about Colon Oscar Piece. Yeah,

1056
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: maybe you can, but doing it.

1057
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: In a clever way, you know, right, Will Smith is rapping.

1058
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: You see Will Smith is doing all his freestyles, and

1059
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: what do you think about that?

1060
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 4: You know, shout out to Wilsmith.

1061
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: We had a great conversation with him out in Budapest

1062
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 5: a few years ago, and you know, he still loves

1063
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 5: making music.

1064
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't think this is.

1065
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 5: Necessarily the greatest music that I've heard from mister Smith,

1066
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: but you know he's still he's still going to be

1067
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: doing it. I mean again, he's not making music for money,

1068
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 5: and he's still going to be able to do shows

1069
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 5: from his older material. So you know, it's not necessarily

1070
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 5: for me and I'm not connecting with it, but I'm

1071
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 5: sure there's an audience out there that and that's why.

1072
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, is there do you age out where

1073
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: people still want to hear you?

1074
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 4: You know, like, I think you have to be self aware.

1075
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: You know, I hate it when rappers are out in

1076
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 4: the world and people like, yo, when's the new album

1077
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: come out? And you don't really care.

1078
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: You know, you have to be aware of who you

1079
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: are and your your stocking the game at a specific

1080
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: at a specific moment, like do people want a new

1081
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 5: jay Z album?

1082
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: Yes? Do people want a new Silk the Shock album? No?

1083
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: Like you have to be not so subjective.

1084
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: I would like to see collectively.

1085
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: That's my favorite word for feeding or asking for a

1086
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: new album.

1087
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 4: No, no, just the Silk. But I'm just saying, m if.

1088
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: He came out with something, I give it a give

1089
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: it a try.

1090
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: Now I used to get them every week.

1091
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: You know.

1092
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: On this topic, my question really wasn't wasn't really more

1093
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: so about like aging out, but just making sure if

1094
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: you are going to continue to be an artist rapping,

1095
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: like for the music to be age appropriate because, like

1096
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: you said, like whoever gonna fuck with are gonna fuck

1097
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 3: with it? Jay Z may not be making music for

1098
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: eighteen year olds. He made that album for us, you

1099
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, the grown people who trying to

1100
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 3: get their credit some land vacation for a living like yeah,

1101
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: like generational wealth, Well yeah yes, and no.

1102
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: Like I struggle with that, right because what is age

1103
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: appropriate music? Right? We're all practically the same age, right, Those.

1104
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: Niggas ain't in a hood no more. Why are you

1105
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: rapping about that?

1106
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

1107
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: At what point do we take a social accountability for

1108
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: our community. Also, I think the older you get you

1109
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: have to have some type of social responsibility for the

1110
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: people who are.

1111
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: Rap is creative writing to me, right, So you can

1112
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: rap about the hood from a different perspective. You can

1113
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: rap about it from a narrative, as a as a

1114
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 5: fictional tale or something that you were really involved with at.

1115
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: A certain point of your life. So I agree with

1116
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: you're saying, like jay Z's rapping about a lot of

1117
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: financial literacy things and things that are affecting him on

1118
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: a personal level.

1119
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 5: But I also think you could just be creative, like

1120
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 5: you could talk about whatever you want. It's it's kind

1121
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 5: of fucked up how like rappers are held to the standard.

1122
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to you know, live it.

1123
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: We have a little activists.

1124
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: Maybe I just want to be creative, Like, why doesn't

1125
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: Mars Scorsese get held to that standard?

1126
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: Why does other people.

1127
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 3: That saying Kendrick trying to free the slaves?

1128
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: No, I don't think he's.

1129
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: Kenrick esthetic comes off kind of real, holistic and like

1130
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 5: you know, vernola ish at times, and I think that's

1131
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: where Drake is trying to poke fun at.

1132
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 4: But Kendrick has a song called Reincarnated on GNA.

1133
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 5: I love that song, and that's him about taking the

1134
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: Ahawaska or whatever it is and having these you know,

1135
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 5: psychotic episode but that's creative, like he's doing Gloria. He's

1136
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 5: talking about a pen and using personification, Like is there

1137
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 5: is there age for that? Because I remember at thirteen

1138
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: years old or eleven years old, we learned about personification

1139
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: in English class.

1140
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: You know, that's an example of it. So I don't know.

1141
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 4: I just think about the artists and if they're capable

1142
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 4: of performing at a higher level.

1143
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's fair.

1144
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: That's all. Freedom rappers, man, Freedom rappers.

1145
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, freedom rappers. When we come back from this break,

1146
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: I want to get into one last topic on hip hop.

1147
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: One of my favorite people be not Yes.

1148
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: When we come back from this break, we're going to

1149
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: need a SIMP series story for you, so you got

1150
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: time to think about it.

1151
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: A SIMP series. Oh man?

1152
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: All right?

1153
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: So I want to talk about one of my favorite

1154
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: gemini is Kanye West. Did you watch the Academics, the

1155
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: DJ Academics interview with Kanye West recently last night before last?

1156
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1157
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 5: It was like think the week before last week, I

1158
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 5: didn't why. I just saw clips I'm just kind of

1159
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: like turned off, like mister West had this.

1160
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me what you think, tell me what you

1161
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: think about Kanye right now?

1162
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: He's full of shit, man, Like.

1163
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: No, I always say that, don't, Tim, Don't I always

1164
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: say Kanye full of shit.

1165
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1166
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 5: A lot of people say he's crazy Kanye that Nigga's saying. Man,

1167
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 5: he is saying. He knows exactly what he's doing. I

1168
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 5: think he's just trying to see how far you could

1169
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: push the envelope without getting canceled.

1170
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: It's like a social experiment on wrong gone left, and

1171
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: I think it's gone.

1172
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: He's already been canceled.

1173
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: He's just not canceled.

1174
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 5: I think he's trying to I don't know what he's

1175
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 5: trying to prove, but it's like it's not work. I

1176
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 5: think it's I think the joke is a little bit.

1177
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 5: It's gone too far. And at this point, he's just

1178
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: making himself look bad. It's like an embarrassment at this point.

1179
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: So like him doing like that he said about jay

1180
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce's kids.

1181
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're going a little bit.

1182
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: The thing that everybody been talking about is some kids

1183
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: is well, I won't say it since they were born.

1184
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: But no, absolutely should have never tweeted that, right, But

1185
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: it's definitely been topic of discussion for years now.

1186
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, these are children we're talking about, right,

1187
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 5: so we have to you know it, whether it's true

1188
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 5: or false, we don't know.

1189
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 4: It's all speculation, right.

1190
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 5: It's not so for you to disrespect someone who I'm

1191
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 5: assuming was your friend, like in that manner, that's not

1192
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 5: cool at all. But then wearing disrespecting Jewish people and

1193
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: wearing a swastika and like.

1194
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

1195
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: Man?

1196
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: Like, come on operating that white lady around get all

1197
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: over the place.

1198
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, like.

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Speaker 5: Kanye's mom I met her once, she would be disappointed

1200
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 5: in him at this point. And I just so when

1201
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: it comes to that interview, I just haven't haven't really tapped.

1202
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: I'm not interested, brilliant.

1203
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I don't think people really want

1204
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: to see a Kanye interview right now, Like they're not

1205
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna they're not expecting a sound person to come through

1206
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: in an interview at this point.

1207
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't want to interview Kanye West at this

1208
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 5: point because it's nothing, there's nothing new to talk about.

1209
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 5: He's gonna justs you know Jay Z or Beyonce, Jewish people.

1210
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: It's like it's not it's tried.

1211
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: At this point, we've heard it already, you tweeted it out.

1212
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 4: We get it. What about your music? You know, that's

1213
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: what we fell in love with? You know?

1214
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: Did y'all miss the part when he said he got

1215
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: when he was talking about this is this is during

1216
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 3: COVID kind of when it was he put the text

1217
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: messages out about how his trainer had drugged him essentially

1218
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: and also threatening to like put him away where he

1219
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: would never see his kids no more. Trainer. Yeah, supposedly

1220
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: just a trainer, but he's a Canadian man who actually

1221
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: uh worked for the Canadian government, also dabbled in a

1222
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: lot of mind control type medications and stuff like that.

1223
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: You laughing, But this is real where we played with

1224
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: Kanye like he was just going crazy and he's literally

1225
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: telling the public what happened to him and what's probably

1226
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: happened to a lot of people in the industry, like

1227
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: people be randomly just passing away because this same man

1228
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: is tied to a lot of other not just black people, right,

1229
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: who have since passed away. Right. So I think that

1230
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: sometimes we like just brush Kanye off as being crazy,

1231
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: all full of shit, and we're not actually looking at

1232
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: what he is trying to say, because he may not

1233
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 3: be the best at articulating right what's going on at

1234
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: the moment, but he does give a lot of information

1235
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: that we just be writing them off. I just never

1236
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: write him off.

1237
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: Kanye's put out like five classic albums. He knows how

1238
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 5: to articulate himself, really affective, absolutely, and at this.

1239
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: Point I think it's different though. I think, I think that,

1240
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: I think and also.

1241
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: Hold and wait, beat out, finish your statement.

1242
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: I just think at this.

1243
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 5: Point he's just trolling. It's just gone a little bit

1244
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 5: too far. And again, he wants to be provocative. He

1245
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 5: thinks he's being edgy, and I just don't think it's

1246
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 5: funny and it's not. It's dangerous at this point. The

1247
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 5: things that he's saying, it's incendiary, it's inflammatory, and it's

1248
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: just disrespectful, it's insulting, it's it's all, it's all those things.

1249
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: So that's my take on Kanye West, and hopefully he

1250
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 5: gets his mind right because I don't want to see

1251
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 5: him crash.

1252
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: Out the way he is.

1253
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, perspectives, that's it, word up. Perspective perspective. That's what

1254
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: people perspective is important.

1255
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: Man.

1256
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, so we have a segment of

1257
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: our show called uh sim series or DUMBI Story, and

1258
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: you have to share the time that you've got a

1259
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: time that you got played by the opposite sex, So anytime,

1260
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: and please try not to do something from high school.

1261
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Maybe something from adulthood. I feel like the men always

1262
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: want to go back to the ninth grade.

1263
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no real easy way to say this, but look, sure, sir.

1264
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 5: So something I did and got played by the opposite said.

1265
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 5: I have a lot of those stories, man, But since

1266
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 5: we're going to keep it up to date, Yeah, all right.

1267
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 5: I remember there was this girl I was talking to.

1268
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 5: This is over a decade ago, and me and I

1269
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 5: were kicking it. We weren't intimate at this point where

1270
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 5: we were just kind of still getting to know each other,

1271
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 5: you know whatever. And one day I was in her

1272
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: neighborhood and I had passed by like a bodega and

1273
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: they were they had flowers out there. So I just

1274
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: bought the flowers and I was like, oh, these are nice.

1275
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 5: I think she'll like them. So I passed by her house.

1276
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 5: This is like maybe morning, like eleven o'clockish and I

1277
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 5: ring the bell or call her. I don't remember which

1278
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 5: one I did, and I was like, hey, come outside.

1279
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 5: She's like, what are you talking about. I was like, hey,

1280
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 5: just come outside. I got something for you. And We're

1281
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: going back and forth and eventually she's just like nine

1282
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: on one, two whatever, and I'm trying to tell like

1283
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 5: I had flowers for her.

1284
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 4: But I think that was turned her off because I

1285
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 4: popped up unexpected. I thought I was doing something nice,

1286
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 4: but it turned out it backfired on me, and she

1287
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: didn't call me and talk anymore.

1288
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: It was like, I always make sure you get home safe. Yeah.

1289
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 5: In hindsight, I thought I was like my raing and

1290
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 5: ship and I was like, damn. I thought I was

1291
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 5: being a nice guy and I wasn't. I was being

1292
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: a creep because no women often say I like flowers,

1293
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 5: like spintin eighty.

1294
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: I thought I was being no send them by way

1295
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: of instacart. At this point, the flower shops have always

1296
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: been delivering just send me flowers. Send him at the

1297
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: flower shop.

1298
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: This is like fifteen years ago, man, and I just

1299
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 4: thought I was doing.

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Speaker 3: The flowers even before the internet. You call and you

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Speaker 3: look in the yellow page. Did you get the number?

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Speaker 3: You put the order in, You tell them when they

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: want when you want to delivered, and it's coming to

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Speaker 3: the house in a neighborhood black at. Let me tell

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Speaker 3: you that happened to me before. And the only reason

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: this nigga knew where I lived at is because I

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01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: had called him one day in an emergency because I

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: left my toilet tree like suitcase that I had bundershit

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: in on my back porch. So I had given him

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Speaker 3: my address, like, hey, can you please go buy my house?

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Speaker 3: Because I know he didn't live far and I didn't

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: know anybody else I can call right fast go buy

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01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 3: my house and put this back into my shed. Other

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01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: than that, he never knew where I lived until that

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01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 3: day I gave him my address, but I did trust

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Speaker 3: him enough to, you know, have him go outside my house.

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Speaker 3: So now fast forward months later, I kind of, like

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: you know, fell back on whatever. I remember. I was

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: sitting at my desk, I was I was doing a wig.

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: I was making a wig and and I saw him

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01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: text me and I didn't respond. Next thing I know,

1322
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 3: my fucking doorbell was ringing. I got up, I said,

1323
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing at my house? I said,

1324
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: what if I had Dick upstairs? That's exactly what I

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: said to him, because as single people you can't just

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 3: we are not our parents who didn't have cell phones

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01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: and social media and all these things. You cannot pop

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: up at a millennial's house. My nigga, But dumb, you

1329
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: know that that story was a good one.

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Speaker 1: But she didn't play you. You kind of do that

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01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: to yourself. Your yeah, yeah, and she.

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Speaker 4: Might have had a company stuck with me and I

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01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: was like, man, that was my villain story.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's your villain origin story. I

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01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: buy another bitch flowers ever in.

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 4: High school that was my real villain story. But we

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 4: don't want to go that phone.

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: No, go ahead, we want to hear it right quick.

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: This tells what happened.

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 5: There was this girl that was in high school that

1341
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 5: I thought was kind of hot, and I asked for

1342
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: her phone number. So she gave me the number and

1343
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 5: I called it and it was a rejection hotline and

1344
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit. So I saw the next

1345
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: day and say, hey, you gave me the wrong number.

1346
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 5: She just started laughing at me the way you guys did.

1347
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 4: And that ship. But I got the last laugh, though

1348
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 4: years later.

1349
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: What you did some revenge sects to her.

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no, this is as an adult.

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 4: So fast forward.

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 5: I was at the local CBS and at the time,

1353
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: we had the rap rate of pockets. We had a

1354
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 5: profile and Ebity magazine, right, so it was a two

1355
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 5: three page spread and I had bought a whole bulk

1356
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 5: of them. And I'm on the line waiting and who

1357
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 5: do I see looking terrible? The same chick and she

1358
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: had a badass kids running around and she's looking disheveled

1359
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 5: and shit, and I'm looking good. I had just got

1360
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 5: a face showt and I got a haircut. I was

1361
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 5: hoping somebody saw me and showed up and got like

1362
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 5: a stack of magazines and I'm go into the counter,

1363
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 5: pays like, hey, what's up, you know, make a small talk,

1364
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 5: and then the register that the cash here, he knew who.

1365
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, beat, what are you

1366
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 4: doing here? You live in this neighborhood? Oh my gosh.

1367
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?

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01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: And this was the revenge.

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01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was feeling like, you know, big Willie at

1370
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 4: that moment, and she was looking crazy. So I was

1371
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 4: like God works mysterious ways. You know what.

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes that do feel good that sh on someone who

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: shouted on you, Like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she gave me. That's a little different injection hotline.

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: These niggas, they probably be wishing bad on bitches who

1376
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: she all at ill will that came probably came from

1377
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: you havn't got yes, you probably you probably felt like

1378
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: so much disdained for her that you manifested this bad

1379
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: life for her, but.

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Speaker 1: Didn't had to put him a rejection hotline. She could

1381
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: have just told him that she wasn't interested.

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: There was I would like that though, So then that way,

1383
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: like whenever you don't want to give you a new

1384
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: number to a nigga and they standing in your face

1385
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 3: and calling your phone, like you just get a number,

1386
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: walk off, like you gave them that rejection hotline number

1387
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: instead of your real number and then have it to

1388
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: block them later on.

1389
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 4: But I would say no, that could have worked too.

1390
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 4: But this is at the time when like cell phones

1391
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: were like still everybody to have a cell phone, you know,

1392
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 4: so you had to write it down a piece of paper.

1393
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to go home and call her. I

1394
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: was like, damn son and just said do you do?

1395
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: You got the rejection hotline.

1396
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, either you were spinky, you

1397
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: were smelling? Are they just I used to have that

1398
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: phone number then they.

1399
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Speaker 4: Had different area codes in.

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Speaker 3: I guess Yeah, that's fucked up your tie, your baby,

1401
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: all right.

1402
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: Tell everybody, plug yourself, Tell everybody where they can find you,

1403
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: all your things that you're doing. Plug it.

1404
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1405
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 5: So you can find me at B dot B D

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 5: O T T M on Instagram, the YouTube, whatever you

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: want to do. You can search me up. I got

1408
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 5: my interview series. I got to get a new guest

1409
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 5: soon called cover Lines. That's out right now. I do

1410
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 5: a weekly series on Instagram called Unlisted, while I do

1411
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 5: a top ten all Things hip Hop, and that's always fun.

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 4: It's interactive with the stream. And yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 4: got going on right now.

1414
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about the future and your nice website.

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: I was on my website. Yeah, I have a website.

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 3: Are you sure not anymore?

1417
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 5: I don't have what I have my own personal website,

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: which is B dot Miller dot com. About all that one,

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: I thought you messed.

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a very nice website.

1421
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: You let your own fans go. Everybody about that, but

1422
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: you let it go.

1423
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 4: You can see on b dot Miller.

1424
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 5: Dot com, have my bio on there, have my reel

1425
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 5: on there if you want to like get in contact

1426
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 5: with me, you know, bookings.

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: In bio like this.

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Speaker 1: So how a thank you for joining us, Bryan anytime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah man, all right, y'all soome you enjoyed this episode.

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: Y'all tune in on Black Effect. iHeartRadio Apple, wherever the

1431
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: fuck you get your podcast that. This is your co

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: host A j Holiday two point on instagrams.

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Speaker 1: Kick it baked term y'all. It's official Tam Bam on Instagram.

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: I love y'all so much. Thank y'all for tuning in.

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: Remember speak now.

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: And never hold them niggas.

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, never hold back hip hop.

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01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hold your peace.

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Speaker 4: This is